Obama Finally Speaks: "I am deeply troubed by the violence I've been seeing on television;" "It's up to the Iranian people to determine their leaders."
Update: Full Statement Added
On FoxNews. Obama answering a question.
The Iranian people tried to determine their leaders, Genius. But the mullahs determined them, Smart-Guy. So what does your dog-food statement actually mean?"The democratic process, free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent; all those are universal values and need to be respected." Um, you don't have to dissent peacefully in a tyranny. Ask, um, Presidents Washington, Adams, and Jefferson, for starters. He sounds an awful lot like a guy voting "present" yet again. Expressing some support for the resisters while also supporting the regime by specifying peaceful dissent.
Foreign journalists are being kicked out of the country, so that the regime can kill whomever they like without being seen doing so. Even reporters from Al Jazeera are being booted. And even on Fox News, cryptoliberal cupcake Shep Smith is spinning for Barack Obama's passivity by claiming that any boldness on his part would be counterproductive and erode the credibility of and sympathy for the resisters. Oddly enough, Iranian students actually in the line of fire don't agree with this analysis. They want support. AoSHQ Exclusive: President Barack Obama actually commented in an earlier thread:
Guys relax. I've just over-nighted an Ipod pre-loaded with my magnificent speeches to The Supreme Leader of Iran. See, all better.So there you go. Oh, and now Michelle Obama's commenting here:
For the first time in my adult life, I'm really proud of my husband's chicken-shit evasions.Full Statement: From AHFF Geoff. No cite, but seems correct. Quotes here jibe with the short clips I saw on tv.
OBAMA ON IRAN: In his pool spray with Berlusconi, Obama says he doesn't want to make the United States "the issue," but speaks out forcefully on the Iranian election and its aftermath..."I am deeply troubled by the violence I have been seeing on television. I think the democratic process, free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent -- all those are universal values and need to be respected. And whenever I see violence perpetrated on people who are peacefully dissenting, and whenever the American people see that, I think they are troubled." "There appears to be a sense of people who were so hopeful and so engaged and so committed to democracy, who now feel betrayed, and I think it's important that moving forward, whatever investigations that take place are done in a way that does not result in bloodshed, and does not result in people being stifled, in expressing their views." (6:45 p.m.) TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE: "I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was. And they should know that the world is watching." (6:47 p.m.)The last part is better, but note how weak it actually is: He thanks the Iranian people for their "participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was," as if mere "participation" in an election voided by rigging -- by a coup -- is really the goal here. They participated. Their job is done. Thank you, drive through. I think it's important to these people what the actual outcome of the election was. I don't think mere participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of this election was, is or was their goal. Again I continue to read his statements as containing as many cautions for the democratic resisters as for the tyrants. Seattle Slough asks "What could Obama say?" Well, how about this: "A democracy doesn't depend merely on people casting votes ; it depends upon those votes actually being counted and the will of the people being respected." Instead he continues cautioning against "bloodshed," as if bloodshed and tumult are the real enemies here, rather than the mullahs causing the bloodshed and tumult. He puts himself on the side of stability over actual democracy and freedom. As has often been said of Muslim "stability" -- it's the stability of the sewer. It's the stability of ruins already reduced to dust. There's a little something for everyone in his statements, isn't there?
Comments
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 15, 2009 06:12 PM (SLsZo)
Posted by: Odumbo at June 15, 2009 06:12 PM (wU8X9)
Posted by: Douglas at June 15, 2009 06:13 PM (uU+Ss)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 15, 2009 06:13 PM (5BgCg)
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 15, 2009 06:13 PM (FS9ko)
Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2009 06:14 PM (wU8X9)
Posted by: Jayne Cobb at June 15, 2009 06:14 PM (+MtXg)
It keeps my skin looking young
Posted by: Shep Obama at June 15, 2009 06:14 PM (93F13)
Posted by: LAsue at June 15, 2009 06:15 PM (0n0gz)
Posted by: Editor at June 15, 2009 06:15 PM (pUfK9)
Posted by: Barry at June 15, 2009 06:16 PM (bmsQ/)
Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2009 06:16 PM (wU8X9)
Posted by: Shep Obama at June 15, 2009 06:14 PM (93F13)
Among other things.
Posted by: Carla Cameron at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM (bmsQ/)
Posted by: Trish at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM (0U5Kd)
Seriously, this is it? Weak, man! He cares more about crushing the "right-wing extremists" here than crushing the mullahs.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: MSG Basil Plumley at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM (YSqbQ)
There's little a US President can do in cases like this but they need to do what little they can. Picking sides is one thing they can do.
What Obama seems to be affraid of is if he comes out for the demonstrators and the Ahmedinihjahd and the mullahs tough it out, they won't talk to him.
He really thinks this crap is personal. He doesn't get they will talk (or not) based on their interests. Nothing more, nothing less.
Watch the Godfather for fucks sake you prissy asswipe...it's business, not personal.
God help us, he really thinks the mullahs are going to be wowed by his personality and world class temperament. That may work on post-menopausal women like David Brooks and Chris Buckley but in the real world it's meaningless.
He's selling the Iranians (and what little hope we have of ousting the mullahs) so that he can have his fucking photo op with a murderous muslim like Ahmadinijahd.
Fuck.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM (iTt2X)
Why do you think that would help?
Why don't you think that would hurt (both now and later)?
Why do you guys always want Obama to react to something immediately? You all chastised him for not doing anything about the Pirate stand off. Don't you want him to wait and figure out the best thing to do, rather than simply do something, anything, right away?
Posted by: seattle slough at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM (H5l9d)
I'm opening up registration so that I can have a whole new crop of hatchlings to ban. yes, I'm that awesome.
Vlaams Belang/I write code better than you/Father Coughlin/Rush = Wrong/Le Pen/BNP/DHS was right/Jazz-fusion that only I care about/creationism bad/Von Brunn/bicycles
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 15, 2009 06:18 PM (5BgCg)
>He cares more about crushing the "right-wing extremists" here than crushing the mullahs.
'hey- dem mullahs never done nothin to me, man"
Posted by: Cassius Obama at June 15, 2009 06:18 PM (YSqbQ)
OBAMA ON IRAN: In his pool spray with Berlusconi, Obama says he doesn't want to make the United States "the issue," but speaks out forcefully on the Iranian election and its aftermath..."I am deeply troubled by the violence I have been seeing on television. I think the democratic process, free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent -- all those are universal values and need to be respected. And whenever I see violence perpetrated on people who are peacefully dissenting, and whenever the American people see that, I think they are troubled.""There appears to be a sense of people who were so hopeful and so engaged and so committed to democracy, who now feel betrayed, and I think it's important that moving forward, whatever investigations that take place are done in a way that does not result in bloodshed, and does not result in people being stifled, in expressing their views." (6:45 p.m.)TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE: "I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was. And they should know that the world is watching." (6:47 p.m.)
Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (5r0Tz)
Posted by: Dan at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (qfb86)
Posted by: UncleFacts at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (vZVv7)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (bmsQ/)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (Znnjc)
Wouldn't this be a good time to unleash our secret weapon?
Joe Biden, America's Foremost Foreign Policy Expert and Smartest Man in the Room.
Posted by: Unicles at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (Pff7c)
Because that's what leaders do. If this guy had any convictions beyond "rich people are bad" and "how will this help me get more power" he'd have known who to side with.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 15, 2009 06:20 PM (SLsZo)
SS, Anderson Cooper called- he needs his pre-show blowjob
Posted by: Jones at June 15, 2009 06:21 PM (YSqbQ)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2009 06:21 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 15, 2009 06:22 PM (Znnjc)
Sloughpid, the reasons are layed out in the "Time for Steel" post. It'd really work better if you read the posts and then comment.
Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at June 15, 2009 06:22 PM (kIjlp)
The bad news: They'll have (R) next to their names.
Posted by: Editor at June 15, 2009 06:23 PM (pUfK9)
Posted by: Y-not being snarky at June 15, 2009 06:24 PM (sey23)
Give him a break, living with Optical Anal Inversion is a bitch.
Posted by: UncleFacts at June 15, 2009 06:24 PM (vZVv7)
Why do you guys always want Obama to react to something immediately?
It's called timing, and without a base of knowledge coupled with real time experience to reason the response, kicking the turd down the road is the best answer for an impotent fence straddler.
Posted by: Fish at June 15, 2009 06:25 PM (FnA4R)
Does he mean:
... like the New Black Panthers at the Polling place?
... or ACORN stuffing ballot boxes?
... or ACORN slashing GOP tires on vans intended to get out the vote on Election Day?
... or Code Pinkos throwing red paint all over the Berkley Recruiting Station?
Posted by: TXMarko at June 15, 2009 06:25 PM (rdNn3)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 15, 2009 06:26 PM (Znnjc)
Posted by: beedubya at June 15, 2009 06:27 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: TXMarko at June 15, 2009 06:27 PM (rdNn3)
That's rich.
Bush was roundly criticized by the left for spending a few minutes to finish his visit with the school children on September 11th, but when Obama -- who seems pretty quick to pull the trigger when it comes to firing people or paying off unions -- hesitates on foreign policy it's just illustrative of his fabulous intellect and temperament.
Riiiight.
Posted by: Y-not is annoyed at June 15, 2009 06:27 PM (sey23)
In other words he's welcoming in his new batch of Lizards pre-banners.
Posted by: Blazer at June 15, 2009 06:28 PM (AoS9J)
Posted by: katya at June 15, 2009 06:28 PM (oRJZj)
Obama? Is this the same motherfucker who warned gleefully of quiet riots in this country by people who apparently are dissatisfied with their handouts making them the richest poor people in the world? The same motherfucker who can barely lift a finger now to help people who are getting the shit beaten out of them for voting for the wrong person?
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at June 15, 2009 06:29 PM (MFQJZ)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2009 06:29 PM (sey23)
Posted by: beedubya at June 15, 2009 06:29 PM (AnTyA)
Yeah, but did you notice he's implementing a "spy mode", aka private commenting mode? Weird, huh?
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2009 06:30 PM (sey23)
If she came out publicly and opposed this sham of an election now, she'd be the INSTANT frontrunner for '12.
Posted by: UncleFacts at June 15, 2009 06:32 PM (vZVv7)
Flash: Obama makes bold statement on Iran!
Eh - as it turns out, not so much. Let's reword:
Flash: Obama boldly makes statement without teleprompter as world wonders,
"Can this jackass even talk fer chriis sake?!"
There - that's better.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 15, 2009 06:32 PM (/+GDy)
Posted by: Fish at June 15, 2009 06:32 PM (FnA4R)
Posted by: seattle slough at June 15, 2009 06:17 PM
Yeh, can't I just finish my waffle?
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 15, 2009 06:33 PM (93F13)
Chicken-shit evasions? Heh. What else are you gonna get from a community organizer, decisive leadership? Zero doesn't have in in him. Hot gas and bullshit is what passes for leadership these days. Too bad.
When you have a chance to do some good, tuck your cowardly tail and mumble concern.
Posted by: maddogg at June 15, 2009 06:33 PM (HCrGb)
If she came out publicly and opposed this sham of an election now, she'd be the INSTANT frontrunner for '12.
You probably mean both the Iranian and American elections?
Posted by: Fish at June 15, 2009 06:34 PM (FnA4R)
Posted by: Obama at June 15, 2009 06:34 PM (wk1uB)
Posted by: Fred R. at June 15, 2009 06:34 PM (J38jJ)
Well, if O's "deeply troubled", then let me take a moment to reconsider.
Sam: "I strenuously object? Is that how it works? Objection. Overruled. No, no, no, no, I strenuously object. Oh, well if you strenuously object, let me take a moment to reconsider." A Few Good Men
Posted by: The Hammer at June 15, 2009 06:34 PM (YBTwf)
Hey liberals, can you at least manage that much?
I mean, you swear you were the anti-slavery party.
Posted by: Al at June 15, 2009 06:35 PM (CyBUS)
Posted by: Blazer at June 15, 2009 06:35 PM (AoS9J)
"This is the moment we must help answer the call for a new dawn in the Middle East. My country must stand with yours and with Europe in sending a direct message to Iran that it must abandon its nuclear ambitions. We must support the Lebanese who have marched and bled for democracy, and the Israelis and Palestinians who seek a secure and lasting peace."
Obama in DC:
"you're on your own folks"
Change we can believe in...
Posted by: db at June 15, 2009 06:35 PM (IyupJ)
and deal with North Korea and Iranian unrest at the same time.
Sorry guys, sucks to be you
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 15, 2009 06:36 PM (93F13)
Crap, that would mean Plugs would be president. He should go on one too. Crap, that would leave us with Pelosi. She should go on one too. Crap, that would leave us with the former Exalted Cyclops of the KKK. He should go on one too. Crap, that would leave us with Hillary. I guess I could live with that.
Posted by: rockhead at June 15, 2009 06:37 PM (RykTt)
-- then it's going to be almost IMPOSSIBLE for Mr. O. to sit down and negotiate with the bloodstained butchers of Teheran and rubber-stamp their nuke program. He'll HAVE to man up, or start shopping around for a ghostwriter to do his memoirs in 2012.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 15, 2009 06:37 PM (QpvbJ)
Butt-beads.
I kinda wish they made 'em bigger though. Gives 'em a little more ooomph, you know?
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 15, 2009 06:37 PM (/8Gs3)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 15, 2009 06:37 PM (AoS9J)
Posted by: Dan on the Strait at June 15, 2009 06:37 PM (dgpED)
Posted by: rockhead at June 15, 2009 06:38 PM (RykTt)
Our president is just a vapid douchebag full of tired cliches and nuanced statements of nothingness. He isn't outraged, he isn't pledging support for the people of Iran, he isn't denouncing the suppression of Democracy, and he's an idiot if he thinks that there will be any meaningful investigation or suspension of violence against those who are protesting. Iran is a Mullahocracy, there is no dissent, free speech or democratic process. So what if the whole world is watching, no one is going to do anything (that use to be America's job. In case anyone is paying attention, America ain't America any more). He is a feckless appeaser who stands for nothing, and a man who stands for nothing will fall for anything. Once again, this is a sad day to be an American.
Posted by: runningrn at June 15, 2009 06:38 PM (3Qkku)
Posted by: DrewM. at June 15, 2009 06:39 PM (iTt2X)
Nigel! I saved your life. Killed a shit eating dog.
Posted by: maddogg at June 15, 2009 06:39 PM (HCrGb)
Posted by: rockhead at June 15, 2009 06:39 PM (RykTt)
Posted by: Persian Protestors at June 15, 2009 06:41 PM (93F13)
Shep Smith is an outright punk. He's a whiny liberal on a good network, in a great timeslot. I want to kick his liberal ass. A couple of weeks ago during the torture 'debate' (remember that, Nancy?) he was screaming about waterboarding being torture and how that better not be taking place in "MY country!!" Fuck you, sheppy, you self-righteous little cocksucker.
Posted by: Uncle Jefe at June 15, 2009 06:41 PM (+3fAP)
On the one hand ... you've got some questions about the election.
On the other hand ... some protestors have gotten violent. And that's not something I condone.
On the other hand ... Jews, you know? Always wantin' to Jew you out of something.
On the other hand ... Pockistan. Sounds real cool when I say it like that, doesn't it?
On the other hand ... there's rich people in Iran, I'm guessing. Gotta do something about all that greed.
On the other hand ... Sheriff Joe's ready to saddle up. He's got his riding chaps on and nothing else. And I'm strangely aroused.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 15, 2009 06:41 PM (QoR4a)
It's not a tyranny, dumbass, the only people disputing the election are warbloggin' neocon sites and gay/feminist Marxists in Iran; the result matches the pre-election polling, even Drudge is reporting that.
Yet the videos coming in show hundreds of thousands protesting, how did all those war bloggers and feminists get into Iran so quickly? Never mind reality is not required in some minds.
Posted by: Jehu at June 15, 2009 06:42 PM (wk1uB)
Speaking for the libs; If this is the "we" that we've all been waiting for...
then to call you bastards a nuclear disappointment would be the biggest understatement in history!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 15, 2009 06:42 PM (/+GDy)
Posted by: Douglas at June 15, 2009 06:42 PM (uU+Ss)
First, you're unfair to dog food. It has more substance than the latest White House statment.
Second, re: the pablum of "deeply troubled" "sense of hope", etc. commentary: The Presidency isn't the mid-season replacement for Dr. Phil. Enough with the empty empathy.
Posted by: kyle at June 15, 2009 06:42 PM (8uzdZ)
Posted by: hindmost at June 15, 2009 06:42 PM (MnpWG)
C'mon, Shep. Out with it....BLOWJOB
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 15, 2009 06:43 PM (fWF4Q)
Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at June 15, 2009 06:43 PM (taJZA)
Hey Douchenozzle...
Explain to me how they counted 30 something million votes from around the country within a couple of hours, after extending voting for 3 hours.
Let me give it a shot...it's easy when you know, start with the number you'd like and then just announce it.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (iTt2X)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (Znnjc)
Posted by: Captain America at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (wgLRl)
The last part is better, but note how weak it actually is: He thanks the Iranian people for their "participation," as mere "participation" in an election voided by rigging -- by a coup -- is really the goal here. They participated. Their job is done. Thank you, drive through.
Agreed - the first 60 seconds were painful obama mumbling about nothing - but this last bit is at least in the ballpark of acceptable for the US President. The three day silence is disturbing, but not unexpected - in the Georgia crisis, Obama called for "restraint" by all sides initially and then turned rougher on Russia as McCain appeared to gain ground.
Here, on friday night the Administration said nothing - and issued "unsourced" leaks to the NYT saying the Administration would most definitely certainly continue the silly Obama outreach plan with Mahmoud. Then, a few days later, as the EU/Canada grow a pair and play the role of McCain (with McCain at least saying something today too before Obama), Obama catches up by issuing this mostly lame, and at the very end passable statement.....the BIGGEST problem with this statement is Obama's lame as hell affirmation of the continuance of the Obama outreach plan in the midst of actual deaths caused by Mahmoud's buddies....
for anyone who saw the delivery, would you agree he looked lost?
even in the context of obama off prompter, obama on domestic issues is waaaaaay better re confidence at least than obama on foreign issues. i mean, if i was a protestor, and saw that shit, i'd be like, that guy is a douchebag and he's gonna sell us to Mahmoud.
Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (5r0Tz)
Oh, that makes it all better then!
Everyone knows the Polls are beyond reproach!
Posted by: TXMarko at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (rdNn3)
L'audace, l'audace. Toujours, l'audace.
It's French, bitch.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (oT+Ek)
We shave "down there" too.
Makes the scrotums silky smooth. They slide in and out of my mouth like velvet.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 15, 2009 06:45 PM (/8Gs3)
Posted by: LiberalNitemare at June 15, 2009 06:45 PM (09Qdq)
Posted by: Iblis at June 15, 2009 06:45 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Doc Rochester at June 15, 2009 06:46 PM (aYL9O)
Sure, I'm game, count me in. As long as cocks don't count as nourishment
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 15, 2009 06:47 PM (AoS9J)
well, I had assumed the American elections part, but yeah.
Posted by: UncleFacts at June 15, 2009 06:47 PM (vZVv7)
Posted by: Sparky at June 15, 2009 06:47 PM (J1f2W)
That said, ever since the end of Gulf War I, I have been very leery of Presidents who call on a people to overthrow their tyrannical government. Yes GHWB, I am looking at you - Shi'a and Kurdish Muslims were slaughtered by the bushel after the US called on them to overthrow Saddam, and then you sat their with Colon Powell's thumb up your colon.
Unless we are ready to commit the full might of the US military (which even hawks are reluctant to do) Obama should not be running his mouth too much. Also, he has to be careful of making the opposition look like US stooges. Finally, since the Mousavi and Achmedimadinnajacket are really on the same page on nukes, the Great Satan and Jews, do we actually care that much? This is really more of a domestic policy struggle - and at least Achmedimadinnajacket looks like the thug he is - as Conservatives, do we want the same policies with a friendlier face, or would that just aid the Appeaser in Chief?
Posted by: Holdfast at June 15, 2009 06:47 PM (Gzb30)
Obama got into office the same way, so he's conflicted. --Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight
BINGO!
Posted by: Cyn at June 15, 2009 06:47 PM (cxzu3)
Ok, so how is ANYFUCKINGTHING different from what those shitbags in Iran blurt out and what Rev. Dr. Jerry Wright, the most holy of holinesses, screams?
No difference, at all.
Barry believed that shit, he still believes it, how can he then disagree?
What a fuckin disgrace.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Joe Buzz Biden-Miller, PhD, DO, MD at June 15, 2009 06:48 PM (CHf6r)
Posted by: DrewM. at June 15, 2009 06:44 PM (iTt2X)
I gots to admit: he's right.
Posted by: Jennifer Brunner at June 15, 2009 06:48 PM (bmsQ/)
Posted by: Jones at June 15, 2009 06:48 PM (YSqbQ)
Seattle Slough asks "What could Obama say?"
Well, how about this:...
Don't want to sound like I am defending Slough but... HE IS FROM SEATTLE.... what the F would he know about actual fair election results? He does not know any better, cut the guy some slack.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 15, 2009 06:48 PM (MsyOh)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 15, 2009 06:48 PM (eiOZw)
I bet you're all secret Jooos!
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 15, 2009 06:49 PM (/8Gs3)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 15, 2009 06:49 PM (xVKXy)
About that "polling"
39 The Washington Compost had some sockpuppets from a pair of NGO's "proving" that their (ahem) polls before the election showed Achmedajihad leading 2 to 1. Some credit to them for linkin a fisk of it in the their blog by Jon Cohen
Posted by: kbdabear at June 15, 2009 06:50 PM (93F13)
Why not? Basiji are good practice.
Posted by: Third Brigade, 3rd ID at June 15, 2009 06:50 PM (bmsQ/)
Posted by: Seattle Slough at June 15, 2009 06:50 PM (YSqbQ)
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 15, 2009 06:50 PM (pfStM)
The only problem with that is the fact that the left does not care about blood on their hands. Witness Cambodia (or Kampuchea to the left.)
So, to any Iranian dissidents thinking they are going to get support from the US I would say that they need to look back to 1975 and that Dem congress. Or, to be fair, they could look at GHWB's treachery at the end of GW1. Fact is, with the US election of the current effete douche bag, Americans do not have the will or the inclination to do the right thing.
Posted by: sears poncho at June 15, 2009 06:51 PM (uj/0b)
Posted by: The Q at June 15, 2009 06:51 PM (pfStM)
I know it means to be pushing our buttons.
But it's just so boring.
Sad, really.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at June 15, 2009 06:51 PM (1Bods)
Posted by: dan in michigan at June 15, 2009 06:52 PM (88w67)
Posted by: maddogg at June 15, 2009 06:52 PM (HCrGb)
Posted by: Senator Larry Craig at June 15, 2009 06:52 PM (xVKXy)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 15, 2009 06:19 PM (bmsQ/)
threadwinner on the grounds of best obama nickname only.
I think he should have just made a short statement expressing solidarity with the Iranian people, and then what ace said.
"A democracy doesn't depend merely on people casting votes ; it depends upon those votes actually being counted and the will of the people being respected."
that's enough to make the point, not too much to for Mahmoud to whine incessantly. but, because obama is so wedded to his "we're gonna change the world through the Obama effect" doctrine, obama played it safe to ensure he could get his stupid talks with MAhmoud....would anyone be surprised if there was backchannel dealings between obama and Mahmoud on the price of Obama not stirring up serious shit for him? perhaps the "Obama Doctrine" has scored it's first major strategic breakthrough - a Mahmoud agreement to at least pretend to agree to nuclear disarm - in exchange for Obama's weak wristed response to the crisis.
i mean this is big shit guys....2 million fools on the streets of Tehran...this is what 1000's of Iranian dissidents have died for over 30 years, and the best Obama could do is this ...
Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 15, 2009 06:53 PM (5r0Tz)
Yet another prime example of why no democrat should ever be given national command authority. What a ham-fisted, mincing, equivocating pussy. He even managed to knock the U.S. in his reasoning for being such a supine little bitch.
I feel better now.
Posted by: U.S.S. Yorktown at June 15, 2009 06:53 PM (5RlWq)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 15, 2009 06:53 PM (xVKXy)
Posted by: Barry 0 at June 15, 2009 06:54 PM (AghBu)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 15, 2009 06:54 PM (Znnjc)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 15, 2009 06:55 PM (xVKXy)
"I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was.
translation:
"Present"
Posted by: Jones at June 15, 2009 06:55 PM (YSqbQ)
Guys, I know it seems that I post a lot of gibberish and incoherent ramblings but gimme a break, it's hard typing with a schlong in each hand and one in my mouth.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 15, 2009 06:56 PM (AoS9J)
>Guys, I know it seems that I post a lot of gibberish and incoherent ramblings but gimme a break, it's hard typing with a schlong in each hand and one in my mouth.
you forgot to mention the dork up yer squeakhole
Posted by: Jones at June 15, 2009 06:59 PM (YSqbQ)
Go for it guys - but make it a raid in force, m'kay? I don't think we need another occupation quite yet. Seriously, I would like to nuke Achmendimadinnajacket's scruffy ass as much as the next warmonger, but let's now stick around.
Posted by: Holdfast at June 15, 2009 06:59 PM (Gzb30)
Posted by: Doc Rochester at June 15, 2009 06:46 PM (aYL9O)
No shit, Doc. I was watching the vids of people getting killed by my Leftard girlfriend and her reply?
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Seriously, the guy is constantly talking about principles, yet he refuses to take a stand on any of them. It's freaking uncanny.
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The images of massive protests and beaten students in the streets of Tehran, Iran, forced an initially reluctant President Barack Obama to speak out sharply against the crackdown and to raise doubts about the election’s outcome.
“I am deeply troubled by the violence that I’ve been seeing on television,” Obama said Monday, more than two days after protests began to break out Saturday in Tehran. “I think that the democratic process, free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent — all of those are universal values and need to be respected, and whenever I see violence perpetrated on people who are peacefully dissenting, and whenever the American people see that, I think they are rightfully troubled.”
Obama reasserted a promise for “hard-headed diplomacy” with any Iranian regime and stressed that he wasn’t trying to dictate Iran’s internal politics, but he also expressed sympathy with the supporters of the opposition, describing “a sense on the part of people who were so hopeful and so engaged and so committed to democracy, who now feel betrayed.”
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Obama’s extensive comments Monday marked a break with days of extreme caution on the riveting conflict since Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the victor — and rival Mir Hossein Mousavi protested the results.
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"all of those are universal values and need to be respected, and whenever I see violence perpetrated on people who are peacefully dissenting, and whenever the American people see that, I think they are rightfully troubled.”"
Wow, just wow, what a slick little puss.
Notice he never says what he thinks...he shifts things to the "American People".
He really is a piece of Affirmative Action work, a coward as the result of having shit given to him his whole life, and not having to fuckin answer to anything.
Great.
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What should he say?
Why is it so hard and would it be so surprising if an American president came out a made a forceful supportive defense of FREEDOM? That's not political, that's not choosing sides, that's WHO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. You know, land of the FREE home of the BRAVE.
If he can't summon the courage to forcefully and without apology defend fair and free elections anywhere and everywhere, then...WTF?
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I forced myself to watch his…’mutterings’ [luckily I did so on an empty stomach]. I noted with interest that he never really looked into the camera, it was very telling.
My reaction can’t really be put into words, it was beyond lame.
My one-word summation: empty.
If I were Dinnerjacket, after I changed my underwear [from laughing so hard...], I’d pick up the phone, ring up the head of the IRGC and tell him, ‘lock and load’.
God help those brave souls in the streets.
God help us.
PS--the Norks, PRC, Russians, and all the other wanna-be thugs saw his 'response'; I thought things were bad, no my friends, it just got worse...much, much worse.
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(That's what people from Tehran are called. I know 'cause I'm all cool an' wordly an' shit.)
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I'm not sure what all of this is about really. I'm happy the Iranians are so distracted and giving Crazy Eyes the shits but forgive me if I'm not too pumped about all of this. I don't get the impression this a "Prague Spring" type of movement. Anyone remember the last time Iran went bat shit? That didn't work out too well for anybody except the Mullahs. Obama may actually be right to keep up the ambiguous statements until the picture gets clearer.
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He can't take a stand for anything, especially freedom, since He's in the process of suspending it. The only thing he truly has taken a stand on is "fairness," as long as He's the One deciding what's "fair." Freedom isn't fair, you see...
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Posted by: Barry O at June 15, 2009 07:41 PM (IyupJ)
But if the tyrants do pull this off and suppress the uprising, throw a lot of people in jail or make them "disappear" -- THEN it's time to show the donkey what the stick feels like.
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I doubt the Mullahs will allow the world to see the hundreds of thousands of dissenters secretly executed behind closed doors.
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One should understand that in '79, the mullahs essentially piggybacked onto the popular revolt against the Shah, which began in the universities.
Revolutions don't always go the way one expects. It's true that Mousavi isn't much of a change from Dinnerjacket, but tearing down the ruling regime opens up a lot of possibilities.
Think of the failed coup against Gorbachev in '91. Yeltsin came out against the coup by asserting that Gorby was the legitimate ruler of the Soviet Union. Yet once the coup was put down, Yeltin was left as the de facto leader of the USSR, as opposed to Gorby as the leader de jure. Yeltsin had been butting heads with both Gorby and the hardliners for years (as I recall, Yeltsin wasn't coming out ahead in these power struggles), but the coup gave him the opportunity to outmaneuver the hardliners by co-opting Gorby. Revolutions are opportunities.
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Unless they're people in other countries who we are at war with under a GOP president. Then they wring their hands over all those poooor people our troops killed and tortured in the dead of night.
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Pervasive fear is the foundation of every dictatorial regime, the prop that holds up all power not based on consent. And when the regime of fear is broken and the people find their courage and find their voice, democracy is their goal and tyrants themselves have reason to fear. ."
"The Iranian regime should listen to the concerns of the world and listen to the voice of the Iranian people who long for their liberty and want their country to be a respected member of the international community.
We look forward to the day when Iran joins in the hopeful changes taking place across the region. We look forward to the day when the Iranian people are free."
Signed
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Well, he might get re-elected. Short of liberating another country, making his tally 1/2 of GWB's, there's no way he isn't a one-termer.
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Sheriff Joe issued a statement a few minutes ago responding to O's "deeply troubled" statement.
Reporter question: Mr. VP, do you have anything to add to the president's earlier remarks about the events taking place in Iran?
Joe Biden: "What's all this fuss I keep hearing about violins on television? Why don't parents want their kids to see violins on television? I thought the Leonardo Bernstein concerts were just lovely, now, if they only show violins on television after ten o'clock at night, the little babies will all be asleep and they won't learn any music appreciation. They'll learn to play guitars, and bongo drums and go to Africa and join these rock'n roll outfits and they won't drink milk! I think there should be more violins on television and less game shows, it's terrible the way...
Reporter: Um, Mr VP, that's Violence on television. Not violins.
Joe Biden: Oh, well that's different. Never mind!
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"Mullahs stealing elections for Ahmadinejad, ACORN stealing elections for me and the Dems, It's no big."
Posted by: Giacomo at June 15, 2009 09:17 PM (517kA)
“I haven’t used that word, ‘condemn,’” he told the State Department press corps. “We need to see how things unfold.”
They hate to condemn a thugocracy that is our sworn enemy, "Death to America" and all that?
Posted by: Javems at June 15, 2009 09:19 PM (/IQA9)
Wouldn't it be just like the evil Zionist to interfere with this election by supplying the protesters with weapons intercepted via Iran in Palestine?
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Again apologizing for America being overly involved in foreign affairs. Sure, ignoring reality is sooooo much better.
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I can't believe this statement, "The Iranian people need to choose their own leaders." Oh really, Mr. Keen Observer of the Obvious? Mr. O, if you don't mind, uh, isn't that the whole problem? The Iranian people have not and are not being allowed to choose thier own leaders. Isn't that the whole point? Hello!
Which leaves me with one conclusion, you Sir, Mr. O., are a complete IDIOT!
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Just heard the audio of Obama being deeply troubled by the violence in Iran.
I get more hacked off when my toast gets burnt.
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Dude, he's got to say this now. Come 2012, he's gonna need that statement for himself.
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