1 Going to get worse before it gets better for the Israelis.

Obama, I'm sure, knows exactly what he's doing regarding this.

Be ready....

2 It's extraordinarily optimistic to say that in any respect we'll be be where we are today the day Obama leaves office.

3 World History is not one of the courses taught in a Socialism course.  But then, neither is math or economics.

"Ok, put your money and US lives where your big mouth is"

Never gonna happen.  Barry is long on talk.  Short on action.

4 A little something called logistics. This is a neat slice from the page.
They deal only in facts, but must work for men who merchant in theories. They emerge during war because war is very much a fact. They disappear in peace because peace is mostly theory.
Unknown Author

That's why i have trouble with women, Love is mostly theory. All well back to the drawing board.

5

Bebe is stalling for time.

Israel is doomed as long as Obama is in power.

6 Greetings:

There's already a two-state solution Jordan east of the river and Israel west of it. Going back to the League of Nations mandate, the only Jordan was the river. There was no state and no Jordanian people. There were Arabs living in the Palestine area of the Ottoman Empire. If the "Palestinians" want to live in an Islamic state, Muslim, row your boat ashore. The Jews have been mostly purged from Arab and/or Islamic states. The Germans were moved out of the Sudetenland after WWII. What's the holdup?

7 2 bgates

+1

8 It was a pretty good speech.  He recognized the reality of the Palestinian issue in Yesha and while he spoke about starting unconditional talks with the Arabs, he laid out some absolutely necessary conditions that the Palestinians are, once more, surely to reject.  You are absolutely right about the probability of no significant progress on this issue for as long as Barry is in office. 
This is not a problem with a difficult solution.  It is a problem without a solution.  At least as long as the death of Jews is a canon of Islam.

9 I <HEART> Unicorns!!!

10

Palestinians are a bunch of rock throwing animals who can't get along with anyone.

Fuck 'em.

11 They deal only in facts, but must work for men who merchant in theories. They emerge during war because war is very much a fact. They disappear in peace because peace is mostly theory.

"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."
--Trotsky

12 Hey Dave#11, so true.

13 Here's the only answer, I'm afraid.  Winner takes all.

14 ErikW is on the money, Bibi's stalling. His conditions for a Pali state are non-starters. A state that is demilitarized, doesn't control it's own airspace or trade, and is prohibited from forging military pacts isn't a state at all. It's status quo, and the Palis gain nothing.

Which is fine by me.

It's actually pretty funny that the Bambi Brain Trust has kind of bought into this as a big step forward.

15 I don't think it's supposed to be workable.

I think it's supposed to show how absurd Obama (and the rest of the world is being) by listing out completely reasonable conditions that everyone knows the Palestinians will never accept. Because they're stupid that way.

The Palestinians do not want peace. If they did, there would have been peace a long time ago. As soon as the world realizes that they can put their heads together and figure out a real solution, or at least an acceptable one.

16 For some reason Obama omitted that stuff from his speech.

Because he does not believe in the Hebrew Bible...or the Greek one for that matter.

17 "Israel as the state of the Jewish people."

> So we're clear, then, that Israel is a race-based...raceocracy? 40% of Israel is Arab, and of the remaining 60% many are atheist Jews. Whatever, it is not a democracy. No constitution, not trial by jury, a media heavily censored by the military, a police state constantly at war, unicameral legislature with proportional rep, checkpoints, religious controlled institutions (marriage), a supreme court which allows thousands of Palestinians to be jailed and tortured and kept as "bargaining chips" (their words) - folks, that's not a democracy.

"We want peace."

LOL. Right, Bibi, riiiiiiiiight.

"to close their airspace to us"

Israel wants the right to violate a sovereign state's air space? Then it's not a sovereign state, I knew he was full of shit.

"It is impossible to expect us to agree in advance to the principle of a Palestinian state without assurances that this state will be demilitarised."

They fell for that once in the 1940s and you ran them out of their homes, never happen. Sovereign states are militarized, like it or lump it.

"the territory controlled by the Palestinians will be demilitarised: namely, without an army, without control of its airspace, and with effective security measures to prevent weapons smuggling into the territory"

Keep dreaming, faggot. A "state" that doesn't control its airspace or has a military or allows "effective security measures" - Israeli commandos? - isn't a state and this is not a two state proposal. What a duplicitous piece of shit this Bibi is.

18 "Palestinians are a bunch of rock throwing animals who can't get along with anyone."

Ace, ban this racist piece of shit.

19 Poor nigel.  He dreams of hope in mommy's basement.

20 "Sovereign states are militarized, like it or lump it."

Shit, who knew?

21 Palau doesn't have any aircraft carriers or ICBMs that I'm aware of.

22 Nigel Tufts...

Get me juicebox.

Grape.

And make it snappy!

23 #16 does BHO believe in any bible? Did that racist church teach from thier pulpit that there is The Bible, or their version of it?

24 Those Swiss Guards have those fancy pantaloons.

25 "Palau doesn't have any aircraft carriers or ICBMs that I'm aware of."

Shhhhh, don't tell anyone!

26 Okay Nigel just broke out his cookie cutter defense of the Pali's. There is no doubt this tool is a liberal moby. I've read that kind of tripe over at Huffpo and Kos more times than I care to mention.

27 There was a story from a British paper last week which said Obama and Gang were working fast and furious to get Livni in and Bibi out. They openly are admitting this, and believe the two state solution will not happen with Bibi.

Clue to morons in White House, you might can pull that crap here, but Israelis as a whole are very willing to fight for their country, and lives with or without Bibi!

I saw the speech live, and I thought it was a solid speech. I would have liked it if Bibi had gone to the podium and said one word, "Nuts!" Sort of like Tony McAuliffe said to the Germans during the Battle of the Bulge. Of course his second reply, the clarification of "Nuts!" was even better, "Go to Hell!"

None of these conditions will be met, but he sure made Obama look like the novice he is, and this is especially true when you factor in the insanity going on in Iran. Brit Hume said on the Sunday show that Obama agreeing to meet with Imadinnerjacket under these conditions is a very bad idea, and is reflecting poorly on him. I think Juan to some degree agreed. The Lefties are scrambling to justify Zero's take on all this and coming up very, very empty.

Per Allah's twitter feed, the youngins rebelling in Iran are saying if Obama does not speak out for them, they are toast. If they knew Obama like we knew Obama, oh!, oh!, oh!

28 Shorter Nigel "Syphilitic Dementia" Lima Tufts - only "Palestinians" with the appropriate haplogroups may set unworkable preconditions!

29 On the one hand, the Jews are the apple of God's eye and I feel it is my Christian duty to look after and care for them whenever possible, and I will use what influence I have on my government, that of the United States of America, greatest country that has ever been and can ever be, to that end.  As Jesus said, 'Whatever you do unto the least of these my brothers, you have done unto Me.'

On the other hand, On 9/12 the palestinians danced in their streets.  On 9/13 Arafat ordered all western journaliss out of the territory he controlled in hopes that we would not see and somehow forget what his followers are.  That forever defines the relationship between the palestinians (and anyone who supports them) and me.  And I will do what I can to influence my government accordingly.

Frankly, I think the solution is to give the territory back to Egypt and Jordan, as those countries have the stomach to do what must be done to keep palestinians in line.  And they have enough of value that the great nation of Israel can provide them real incentive to keep the palis in line.

30 See wiki for List_of_countries_without_armed_forces

31 Professional welfare people...60 years ....It is a big business...lots of wealthy pali leaders...check arafats french bank accounts.
saudi arabia has plenty of cash and land, they don't want these generations of welfare people egypt doesn't want them either...hussein only understands the welfare mind...and the welfare biggies, all those years of community organizing...those neighborhoods look eerily third world too....where did all that money go?

32 Very interesting.  Palau - defense is the responsibility of the US.

hahahaha  ROFLMAO

33 DrewM should be banned for posting this obvious hate speech by the Joooooos

34

Ace, ban this racist piece of shit.

When exactly did "Palestinian" become a race, stupid?

Considering your moronic, inaccurate previous comment, I'd ban you first.

35 "But let me first say that the connection between the Jewish people and the Land of Israel has lasted for more than 3500 years."

Awesome, does that mean we get to reclaim Northern Netherlands and Germany? And the Britons get to claim Iberia? Cool, Brittania!

36 "Get me juicebox. Grape. And make it snappy!"

It's purple, not grape. You get turkwise or urnge, but no purple.

37 Is Nigel that dog from the movie "Up"?

I know the rule is to not feed the trolls, or to beat them about the head or neck, but this one is no fun. It is just stupid.

If I was POTUS one of my first Executive Orders would be to take all the Nigels, and plant them in Somalia. Or even better Kenya! So they could rub elbows with Dear Leader's kin like Raila Odinga. Now there is a real charmer! Insert eye rolling here!

38 "When exactly did "Palestinian" become a race, stupid?"

Speak het, faggot. If you have a statement to make, make it, slap a period at the end, and I will cancel or allow it as deemed necessary, thanks.

39 Did that racist church teach from thier pulpit that there is The Bible, or their version of it?

Don't you remember? Their Bible is the one with "God damn Amerika" in it.

As to the speech, it sounds like Bibi pwned Il Douche.

40
I believe Ms Powers wanted to put US troops in Israel, not Gaza and the West Bank. I could be wrong about that.

Nigel, your ridiculous version of history isn't going
to fly here, go back to an MSM or UK blog.

Bibi has chechmated the one. He accepted "the one's" demands: 2 state solution and limits on settlements, with poison pills that will kill it from the Arab side. Tactly asking for US troops in the West Bank/Gaza was a nice touch.

41 Keeping people ignorant, poor and pissed off is good for business. Just ask Suha Arafat. Living cushily in France, she still hasn't burned through all the billions her husband stole from the Palestinian people.

42 FIRST!

43 "and plant them in Somalia."

Why bother? Half of Somalia is here in Canada. And you wonder why I'm a little...strident. You're next, America, biiiiiiiiiig immigration coming your way.

44 It doesn't bother me if it's taking a while to ban the dickhead, but you guys are banning the dickhead, right?

45
Step 1: Talk about peace

Step 2: ?

Step 3: Unicorns for everyone!


Heh.

46 Make targets out of US troops?  I don't think so.

47 I saw a 20/20 piece that showed where loony asylums were allowing Interweb access.  But I didn't believe it.  Until I tried to read poor nigel.

48 Maybe the Euros can help their "Palestinian" friends out with security.

OK, I didn't get to the end of that sentence without laughing.

49 Palestinian reaction is about what you'd expect, whining combined with threats.

Heh heh. Funny & true.

No wait. That's sad. Ugh.

50 "Professional welfare people...60 years ....It is a big business...lots of wealthy pali leaders...check arafats french bank accounts." I know what you mean. Oh, you were referring to the Palis? I meant Israel, a beggardly third world state heavily dependent on foreign aid - sixty years after independence. What do we call WELFARE CASE states that are still massively dependent on foreign aid? Why, we call them failed states. Not viable states. Their claim to sovereignty is compromised - sovereign states don't go cap in hand around the world begging for money sixty years after independence. They can't even feed themselves.

51 Maybe the Euros can help their "Palestinian" friends out with security.

OK, I didn't get to the end of that sentence without laughing.



Hold on there don't laugh. The French did an excellent job keeping the peace on the Israel/Lebanon border.







^{O.K., I'll admit, I didnt get through typing that without laughing either.}

52 Why, we call them failed states.

Tell us again about Iran, sage analyst and non-dementia-afflicted intellectual behemoth!

53 "It doesn't bother me if it's taking a while to ban the dickhead, but you guys are banning the dickhead, right?"

Say uncle, faggot :-0)

54 I believe that duh1 wishes the destruction of Israel. He just doesn't want the blood on his hands.

Next up, the destruction of America.

55 #47 LOL! So true, so true!

56 Can I haz Kazam Rokits now?

57 Say uncle, faggot :-0)

I'm still around to mess with you, dickhead.  I'm just checking up on the others, that's all.

58 Israel can't feed themselves? Hey retard, they're a major source of food for Europe.

59 "The French did an excellent job keeping the peace on the Israel/Lebanon border."

So did the Canadians, until the Israelis intentionally targeted our soldier and murdered him. Rest in peace, Major Hess-von Krudener, I for one have not forgotten.

60 Obamha has the Ace of Spades<sorry about that verbage>up his sleeve. The U.S. supports  Israel big time: both in money and military hardware. The French will no longer sell Israel any military stuff, nor will any other country. They are at our mercy to support their State of Israel for everything. I am sure the real people behind the throne at the W.H. have said this to Israel. Do what BHO says or be cut off. 

61

I told a friend of mine that this "two state solution" thing from Bibi was pure unadulterated meaningless rhetoric.  He knows it's a non-starter.  Hell, ever since about Oslo, anyone with half a brain knows it's a non-starter.

And the Israelis I know won't give up their country without a no-hold barred, hair pulling, nuking cities fight.

62 But this "two-state solution" goes to eleven.

63 So did the Canadians, until the Israelis intentionally targeted our soldier and murdered him. Rest in peace, Major Hess-von Krudener, I for one have not forgotten.



Well hopefully he wasn't be acting as a spotter for the Hezzies like the French troops were. With that said, shit happens, it's a war zone.

64 Adriana Lima insists he's not a white supremacist, but then talks about how inferior 'ethnics' are.  Doesn't see the contradiction.  Is not as smart as it thinks it is.

I hate Inconsistent Nazis.

65 Israeli GDP: 200 billion.
US aid to Israel : 2.5 billion.

Reality blows another hole into Nigel Lima's world of dementia and masturbating in front of his Hitler shrine.

66

I have realized why O is in such a hurry to do everything ASAP.  Health care now! Stimulus now! Palestine now!  Regulate this; regulate that, now!

After 2010 the Dems will lose both Houses of Congress and all this speed to destruction will come to a screeching halt.

I can dream can't I?

67 Israeli GDP: 200 billion.
US aid to Israel : 2.5 billion.

I'm sure he'll say that the Joooooos pinch pennies so hard they stretch that 2.5B to 200B through usury and cheating.

68

"Israeli GDP: 200 billion.
US aid to Israel : 2.5 billion.

Reality blows another hole into Nigel Lima's world of dementia and masturbating in front of his Hitler shrine."

When ol' Nigel goes to Israel and the Middle East and sees what it's REALLY like, then I'll start listening to his bullshit.  Otherwise, he needs to shut up and go back to discussing American Idol or some such elementary school crap.

69 Canadian Nazis. I hate Canadian Nazis.

70

"Trolling, trolling over the bounding main..."

 

Canadian antisemitic Dhimis is soooo stupid.

71 Mystry-Before Bush left office large shipments of goodies went to Israel. One major gift was a brand new missile defense shield which was installed ahead of schedule. Praise be to God!

Despite Zero's attempts to make Israel look alone in the world via his Cairo speech, I would remind you of Bibi's visit to Jordan. He also spoke with Egypt. As Bolton said, the Arabs in public are going to gnash their teeth and throw hissy fits, but in reality they very much want Iran NOT to have nukes.

Not all European countries have forsaken Israel. Although they have their own problems, many former Soviet block countries have forged some good relations with Israel. And while Dear Leader has given much butt love to Islam, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and all that is terrorism, he cannot leave Israel totally out to dry. He will no longer be the great lightworker the world has come to know, and love.

72 "US aid to Israel : 2.5 billion."

False. And the USA isn't the only country, Germany gave them nuclear subs, that's a couple billion right there. Canada gives them money, they've been extorting billions in guilt money from Germany for decades, etc., etc.

Has any Zionist in world history ever made a factually accurate statement, ever? They ALWAYS lie, it's quite hilarious, like a dog that does tricks.

73
The French won't sell to Israel. OMG, what's going to happen when the Israeli's won't sell to the French.

74 The cool thing about not even believing my own arguments is that I can toss stuff out without ever citing anything.  Take my word for it.  You think I'm full of shit?  Well so do I.

75 This may sound dumb, but when did the Jews first lose the land which is now Israel? Before the 1918 mapmaking of the ME, did they have an area, a state...what?

76 Hey Nigel, come to my web site. The site is Pre War Forensics. The Pre War part is just a cover. wink wink We have tons of pics of dead women with links to real live dead girls!! Come on Nigel, they're waiting for you.

77 "Well hopefully he wasn't be acting as a spotter for the Hezzies like the French troops were. With that said, shit happens, it's a war zone. Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 06:43 PM (AoS9J) "

What a contemptible piece of shit you are. Hey, those 3000 American troops who have died in Iraq: are we sure they weren't passing intel to Al-Quaeda?

78 False.

Nope.

79 Has any Zionist in world history ever made a factually accurate statement, ever? They ALWAYS lie, it's quite hilarious, like a dog that does tricks.



Speaking of trick's, how'd your owner teach you to type on a keyboard ? That's pretty neat. Bet you think that's a whole lot more fun than dancing while he grinds his organ.

Sounds and looks about the same though.

80 Posted by: PJ at June 14, 2009 07:00 PM (oUBw

Like most of that part of the world, today's Israel was part of the Ottoman Empire. Then WWI came along. and the rest is, well, you can see the rest.

81 If Obama says one more fucking word about dismantling settlements I hope Bibi nukes the fuck out of America and its mongrel white people. G_d, I loathe white people, with their morals and punctuality and founding of America, ugh.

82

Has any Zionist in world history ever made a factually accurate statement, ever? They ALWAYS lie, it's quite hilarious, like a dog that does tricks.

Says the imbecile who believes that "Palestinian" is a race and that Israel is 40% Arab.

83 That's hilarious. Nigel Lima thinks the Dolphin class is a 'nuclear' submarine.

Tell us what you think a 'nuclear' submarine is, you demented Nazi fuck.

84 @77



Oh no, my heartfelt sympathies go out to him and his family. However I take it he was pulling U.N. duty, which for the most part is pretty fucking useless for keeping the peace. If he got caught between the Hezzies and The IDF, then sounds to me your beef should be with the Hezzies, they're the fucking terrorist's.

But then again, I'm talking to a racist anti-semitic douchenozzle, so what the hell did I expect. Of course you'll side with the terrorist's.

85 "That's hilarious. Nigel Lima thinks the Dolphin class is a 'nuclear' submarine. Tell us what you think a 'nuclear' submarine is, you demented Nazi fuck."

AGAIN with the homo speak. If you have something to say, faggot, say it heterosexually, don't be passive aggressive coy.

86 Go look up "nuclear submarine", shit-for-brains. Then look up 'Dolphin-class'. Then ask yourself what the difference is, you stupid fuck.

87 "then sounds to me your beef should be with the Hezzies"

This is gorgeous to watch, the decrepitude. It really wants me to blame the "Hezzies" for Israelis targeting and murdering a Canadian soldier. What a marvelous specimen, I must observe you more closely. Speak some bulk words, I could use another good laugh.

88 AGAIN with the homo speak. If you have something to say, faggot, say it heterosexually, don't be passive aggressive coy.

If this guy isn't a repressed homosexual, the term has no meaning.

89 Argggghhh--avast !!--It's the great white MOBY--Nigel !

90 "Go look up "nuclear submarine""

How do you spell that in Canadian?

91 This may sound dumb, but when did the Jews first lose the land which is now Israel?

AD135  In an attempt to erase the memory of Judaea, he renamed the province Syria Palaestina (after the Philistines), and Jews were forbidden from entering its rededicated capital.

92 You know what I could really go for right now? Being on my knee's and smack dab in the middle of a White Pride/Hamas bukkake circle.

They say Arafat really enjoyed that shit too.

93 Look at the Nazi troll squirm as it tries to avoid the uncomfortable truth that it has no fucking clue what a nuclear submarine is.

94 speak het for fuck's sake

Holocaust Educational Trust?

95 ...and when I say "Zionist", remember, I actually mean filthy jew.

96 3 World History is not one of the courses taught in a Socialism course.  But then, neither is math or economics.

Ever wonder why we haven't seen Mr. Smart Guy's academic transcripts?

Neither have I.

97 Just remember I'm an axelturd moby. If you don't engage me, I don't get paid.

Pitiful job. But hey, I'm worthless for anything that doesn't involve sucking dicks.....

......yummy yummy dicks.

*sigh*

98

I like a guy with balls.

I didn't read any of that mamby-pamby peace process negotiations crap. he told them if you want your coveted two-state solution, you've got recgnize the right of Israel to exist. If I were Israeli, I'd feel more comfortable with him.

Note to Mr. Netanyahu: don't say "Ironclad", it reminds some of that sucker Neville Chamberlain.

99 He reported that "the closest artillery has landed within two metres of our position", but he did not blame the Israelis. "This has not been deliberate targeting, but has rather been due to tactical necessity. Please understand the nature of my job here is to be impartial and to report violations from both sides without bias. As an Unarmed Military Observer, this is my raison d'être."
Major Gen Lewis MacKenzie, a distinguished Canadian soldier and one of the email recipients, said that Major von Krudener was using veiled language: "What he is saying translates roughly as: 'We have Hezbollah fighters all over our position engaging the IDF and using us as shields.' "

100

This is gorgeous to watch, the decrepitude. It really wants me to blame the "Hezzies" for Israelis targeting and murdering a Canadian soldier. What a marvelous specimen, I must observe you more closely. Speak some bulk words, I could use another good laugh.

I hear that Nazi retards like you do laugh easily, though usually drooling a lot.

Let's see what the Canadian soldier in question had to say about the situation before he died:

Just last week, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener wrote an e-mail about his experiences after nine months in the area, words Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie said are an obvious allusion to Hezbollah tactics.

"What I can tell you is this," he wrote in an e-mail to CTV dated July 18. "We have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.

"The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity."

"What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces)," he said.

101 I like a guy with balls.

Me, too.  Especially when they're in my face.

102 Posted by: Jubal Anderson Early at June 14, 2009 07:27 PM (k7Xlb)

Exactly! Why couldn't the fucking Jews just die quietly like in the good old days?

103

Good for Bibi, I was afraid he was going to just give in to the One.  The conditions he outlined are actually quite generous, but since they are designed to prevent the Palis from killing Jews, the Palis and their Iranian paymasters will never accept them.  Which is just fine.  You can forget about anyone actually trying to police such an agreement, they would simply become targets and everyone knows this. 

So, let the One work his unicorn magic on the Palis, if he can.

104 The sweetest story evah....when Israel had to give up land, this land contained beautiful greenhouses, the welfare mongers destroyed them....they likey being on welfare.....Israel creates medical discoveries, educates and loves their children...no child has to put on a suicide belt, ...Please site  the welfare mongers accomplishments, their love of their children, how does it manifest itself..

105 False.

Wow! How does one respond to such a deft parry?

106 Nigel?  Nigel?  You still there?  I know  you're taking a ferocious beating but can you get back to us on that nuclear submarine thing? 

107 Me thinks Bibi is going to show Obambi what it is to tangle with an adult that has hard won experience in the world and who will actually fight back.

108 Nigel?  Nigel?  You still there?  I know  you're taking a ferocious beating but can you get back to us on that nuclear submarine thing?


Axelrod forces them to punch out and take an unpaid lunch. He's probably enjoying his Animal Crackers and Juice Box right now. He'll be back.

109 Oh noes! Jooooos haz ballz!

110 Nigel?  Nigel?  You still there?  I know  you're taking a ferocious beating but can you get back to us on that nuclear submarine thing?

"Mein Fأ¼hrer!  Das Ammerikans have beclowned me!  Vas shall I dأ¼?"

111 Certain problems cannot be solved and this is one of them due to the fact of the savagery of the so called Palestinians. It can however be managed, contained, and controlled. Netanyahu knows that, Obama being an in over his head neophtye does not.

112 Obama's bible.

113   Re #106

My favorite thing is when Joe Biden drove the USS Jimmy Carter straight up my portello di sicurezza.

114 Has anyone here seen my son Nigel? He's kind of slow and has this really stupid mongrel look about him. I know, I know, not exactly Master Race material but he's my boy and it's not his fault that I had sex with my sister, or mom as he calls her.

115 1.  The Palestinians (not a people but a group of Arabs suckered by Arab countries into being cat's paws for them in their unending wars to annihilate the Jews) want to be come a State with full right to arm and declare war, after displaying nothing but murderous intentions to Israel for three generations.
2. They and their various thugocracies have stated clearly, in public and on their own websites, they intend to destroy Israel.
3.  Israel is the only country in nearly all of recorded history to voluntarily give back lands they took after being aggressively attacked in a full-fledged war.
4.  The Palis demand as a non-negotiable issue, "right of return."  This would make Israel a majority Muslim state, destroying it.  Not to mention resulting in god knows how much legal and gang warfare over "who owns what."
5.  Therefore the Palis are never going to get full statehood.
6.  The Israelis are not going to agree to idiot conditions that will destroy them as a nation.
7.  Which all means: status quo until there is full-out war again.

(The history of modern Israel is complex and few seem to know it well.  But here's a few words.  The Palestine was sparsely inhabited at the time they arrived after the war.  The Arabs living there were given the choice to stay (and those that have, have done well), or be paid for their land.  Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and others told those Arabs, "No, just leave for a while and we'll crush Israel then you can all go back."  The Palis Arab brethren failed to "crush Israel," then abandoned the Palis for generations.  As part of the original deal, some of the the Palis were supposed to be allowed to move into the Jordanian Mandate.  Jordan killed 20,000 of them, forced the rest back into the West Bank, and seized that land for themselves.  Egypt reneged on their offer and blocked them from entering the Sinai.  The Palis were created and exist only as a tool for the other Arab countries to harass Israel.)

116 why is their no Indian Nation that rules the land mass of the USA? Because they were not strong enough to keep it. No nation can exist if they are not strong enough to defend it, no other reason.

117 Seriously, well, what can you expect from the network that brings you Katie?

118 "Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and others told those Arabs, "No, just leave for a while and we'll crush Israel then you can all go back."

Oh, that was sublime. There's no bullshit like Zionist bullshit, truly in a class by itself.

119 www.paraguay.com

Just sayin'

120 There's no bullshit like Zionist bullshit, truly in a class by itself.

You can  just see Nigel Lima, as he is pwned over and over and over again by facts and reality, clamping his fascist hands over his Nazi ears screaming 'no, no, it's not true, it's not true'.

NEXT!

121 Oh, that was sublime. There's no bullshit like Zionist bullshit, truly in a class by itself.

I disagree.  I think the bullshit you've been spreading here for a while outranks any other bullshit available.  And you even top that with arrogant gall.  Calling Dolphin-class subs "nuclear", claiming without any sources that the Arab armies surrounding the nascent state of Israel didn't encourage the "Palestinians" to leave, ect, ect, ad nausem. 

In the end, there will be only...retarded Nazi trolls.

122 Oh, I'll tell you what else is sublime!

Having a leather-clad arab boy stuff a twenty foot long Twizzler up your squeakhole, so you don't have to by treats at the midnight showing of "Brokeback Mountain".

*sigh*

123 There's no bullshit like Zionist bullshit, truly in a class by itself.

And by 'bullshit' you mean historical fact? Must be some of that charming Anglo Saxon colloquial.  Hey, let me try some too.

Heya mate, what time shall I come and knock you up later?
'Allo Guvnah, fancy a fag?

Ooh this is fun.

124 Oh, that was sublime. There's no bullshit like Zionist bullshit, truly in a class by itself.

Jawohl!  As sure as I sit in mein Atom-powered Flying Boat, der Zionists is der stinky-poots!  Would you like to see mein weinerschnitzel, mein fellow Weiss-zupremacist bأ¼ddy?

125 Must see video of the day:

Dinnerjacket is jeered at a University yesterday by thousands of supporters of Moussavi. He is forced to climb onto the car to get away.


Video here

126 i fuck farm animals.

127 but when did the Jews first lose the land which is now Israel? Posted by: PJ

PJ, one of the better books on the subject: From Time Immemorial. Highly recommended.

128

Holy Fucking Shit:

CBS republishes NewRepublic article:

Meet Iran's George W. Bush

......
Mousavi is not Iran's Barack Obama. He's more like John Kerry, and this election year is strikingly like 2004 in the United States. The incumbent president is deeply unpopular at home and abroad. He came to power with a dubious mandate, but governed in a polarizing fashion that has divided even his one-time allies. Iranians have paid the price in every area of life that is touched by the government.  http://tinyurl.com/nejgjn

How do you 'google bomb' (what the hell is it?)something?  Because this stupid bitch, Laura Secor, deserves it.

 

 

129

128 Sorry that one's mine.  To think, before the Moron Influence^TM, I use to be so pure.

 

Crap.  I just had had a bug fly staight up my nose.  I think God has a weird sense a humor.

130 #128

More like Laura Suckor...as in sucking on the Mullah's engorged cranks.   She's probably Contessa Brewer's (dirty, dirty slut) partner for the sex clubs in NYC.

131 It wasn't really a bug; it's the 'Obama implant'...we'll all be getting one sooner or later.

132 How can CBS republish it?  It's disgusting.  Don't just boycott David Letterman, boycott CBS on line.  It angers me.  Would they publish an article comparing Clinton to Ron Jeremy?

133 The smart Palis left decades ago.  All that's left are the fools who elect people like Hamas to run their shit into the ground.

134 Would they publish an article comparing Clinton to Ron Jeremy?

that would be a more accurate comparison.

135 Maybe I should have rubbed it on my face instead of on my dress.

136 135 Maybe I should have rubbed it on my face instead of on my dress.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at June 14, 2009 09:05 PM (penCf)

 

I'm an idiot.   

137 Would they publish an article comparing Clinton to Ron Jeremy?

Only if they quoted court documents.

138

Only if they quoted court documents.

 

Awesome!

139 Maybe I should have rubbed it on my face instead of on my dress.



No actually you should have swallowed the evidence like a good girl. Could have saved me a lot of time and trouble and that aspirin factory in Sudan.

140 ich habe viel kockenschmerzels in meine mund und kann ich nicht fahrvergnugen.

141 So let me get this straight: it's not okay for anyone to engage in any anti-semitism for fear of being labeled such by just about everyone, but it is more than okay for just about everyone to be anti-arab, or anti-muslim, or anti-islam.

It's puzzling to me that no one on the far right is willing to even think that maybe the nation-state of Israel is in any way, shape or form guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever, and it's mostly because they are afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic. I have no problem with the people who belong to the Jewish race, but I do have a problem with the way the nation of Israel is run, and I do have a problem with the government there. There can be a distinction.

Kinda like how for the last eight years I had no problem with Americans, but I hated the people in power. Wait, what website am I on again?

Oh yeah, you people are ideological sheep, and would never dare to have any independent thought that your talking heads haven't propogandized already. Why am I even trying?

142 Dear Ace Mu Nu,

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143 P.S. We can trust that you will pour out any unsold bottles and syringes of said product.

144

CIA Chief Panetta says:

 CIA Director Leon Panetta says former Vice President Dick Cheney's criticism of the Obama administration's approach to terrorism almost suggests "he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Panetta told The New Yorker for an article in its June 22 issue that Cheney "smells some blood in the water" on the issue of national security.

 

http://tinyurl.com/l4m6o5

 

They know an attack is being planned don't they?  They are afraid and are setting Cheney up to take the fall if something happens.  They are taking Cheney's "see I warned you" angle away.  Something is going to happen soon isn't it.  Remember this is the CIA Chief, not some Senator or Rep..

145 Ich liebe heiكe milchig Mann Lasten kaskadierende über meine Zunge !

146 141 So let me get this straight: it's not okay for anyone to engage in any anti-semitism for fear of being labeled such by just about everyone, but it is more than okay for just about everyone to be anti-arab, or anti-muslim, or anti-islam.

not anti islam, however i am anti islamic fundamentalist , you know the crazy bastards that want to bring about a caliphate, that want and do subjugate women, that oppose western democracy and freedom and want to kill us all. the kind that fly airplanes into skyscrapers, not keen on those guys no, sorry.

147 Dear gayandblack,

Would you please come over here a stand by this nice, new wall we just built?

Thank you.

148 146 141 So let me get this straight: it's not okay for anyone to engage in any anti-semitism for fear of being labeled such by just about everyone, but it is more than okay for just about everyone to be anti-arab, or anti-muslim, or anti-islam.

not anti islam, however i am anti islamic fundamentalist , you know the crazy bastards that want to bring about a caliphate, that want and do subjugate women, that oppose western democracy and freedom and want to kill us all. the kind that fly airplanes into skyscrapers, not keen on those guys no, sorry.

149 Calling Dolphin-class subs "nuclear"...

I still can't stop laughing over his contention that Germany gave Israel submarines.   Apparently the Germans said "Merry Christmas!  Have some subs.  We weren't using them anyway.  Oh, don't worry, you don't have to pay.  It's a gift!"

150 damn sockpuppets

151 Oh yeah, you people are ideological sheep, and would never dare to have any independent thought that your talking heads haven't propogandized already. Why am I even trying?



The same reason we don't bother to try. Because you are an ideological sheep, and would never dare to have any independent thought that your talking heads haven't propogandized already.

Smooth move posting as two of the lefts biggest victim classes. I saw what you did there.

152 149 Calling Dolphin-class subs "nuclear"...

I still can't stop laughing over his contention that Germany gave Israel submarines. 


das nazis hat den juden die jewbooten gegeben. das ist den wienerscnitzel wahrneheit.

153 Posted by: gayandblack at June 14, 2009 09:14 PM (yH15j)

I have no problem criticizing Israel.

Hell, I went off on them for not wiping out Hezballah during the last go round in Lebanon.

I'd even be more than happy to say a nice word about Palestinian political culture. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything praise worthy.

How about instead of telling us to beat up the Jews a bit more, you tell us a couple of good things about the Palestinian political culture.

This should be fun.

154 Oh great, the first time I need an overnight open thread for my first colonoscopy. there is no FRIGGIN' open thread!! I guess there is now............Age 51.5 years and NOT happy.

155 Kinda like how for the last eight years I had no problem with Americans

Oh, thank you for not having a problem with me. I'm so grateful.

156 It's puzzling to me that no one on the far right is willing to even think that maybe he nation-state of Israel is in any way, shape or form guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever, and it's mostly because they are afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic.

No, frankly, it's not.  As a Conservative, I'm labelled shit all the time.

Frankly, the reason we don't entertain much of the criticism of Israel is because it usually comes from people who refuse to acknowledge the utter barbarity of the people who are trying to put their knives to the throats of Israel. 

157

158 It's puzzling to me that no one on the far right is willing to even think that maybe the nation-state of Israel is in any way, shape or form guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever,

You want honest debate?  Here's how you start: don't set up straw men.  Arguing against people who were insisting to you that you can have no criticisms against Israel might sound like a great idea--unfortunately that's not an argument anybody here has tossed out there.  If someone picks something like that as a point of contention, it's generally because they want to argue with and attack someone, but can't on the actual points being discussed.

Doing that is the trait of sheep, it is not the trait of an independent thinker.

As far as Israel, it's perfectly justifiable to criticize and attack Israel. It's perfectly justifiable to criticize and attack Zionism.  However, it's just a fact that blatant anti-Semites often run behind the "I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm anti-Zionist!" bit when they're criticized as well, and that's what draws skepticism to those kinds of statements.

159 oops

160 Jemand Bitte starten Sie eine Reichstag Feuer in meinem squeekhole aus der Reibung und es mit deiner Liebe Saft !

161 #124 Nigel, Lets see if you can get this one right.. Here it comes! Who built the fisrt atom powered flying boat. I will even give you multi-test format. The Germans, the French, The U.S. , The British, or The Chinese. Only one guess now!

162 israel is not perfect, but they are a democracy and they have been willing to negotiate in good faith. every concession that israel has met has resulted in no reciprocity from the palestinians or the arab forces that support their cause. israel has made a garden out of the desert. lands held by palestinians are a cesspool in comparison.

163 Oooh.  Nigel speaks German.  How. . . surprising.

164 CIA Director Leon Panetta says former Vice President Dick Cheney's criticism of the Obama administration's approach to terrorism almost suggests "he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Oh dear Jesus f'king Christ . . .

165 #161 Woops First was transposed. Sorry!

166 There's no bullshit like Zionist bullshit, truly in a class by itself.

I've always wondered how that was going to happen...the destruction of Israel, I mean.

I mean they were a country for about a minute, with no army or heavy equipment, and were attacked by 7 neighbors simultaneously. They're still here.

They were sneak-attacked and are still here. Hundreds of missiles a month have been shot at them for decades, and they're still here.

They've been divided politically for half a century, and they're still here.

If I was a raghead, I'd wonder (1) What the fuck does it take to destroy Israel, or (2) maybe all the Arabs in the world can't flatten one postage-stamp sized country with a population they outnumber a thousand to one. Maybe you suck just that bad.

Of course there are always nukes. The Iranians might soon have two or three, the Pakis have 60 or so but no way to deliver them, while the Israelis might have upwards of 400. The ragheads won't nuke the Temple Mount, so it's Tel Aviv and Haifa. Then every Arab city within 7000 klicks gets a visit from a Jericho III...and you can bet your goat they are already dialed in for Case Omega.

...and yet, the muzzies still scream 'Death to Israel'.  Like they could actually accomplish it.

167 Why am I even trying?

Because you want attention.
No one believes that Israel is perfect. No commentator has ever said that. So, there's one strawman you can return to the store.

Second, the idea that we are 'anti-Muslim' etc., etc. is pejorative. Many of us here are not happy with the way many Muslims express themselves by killing people. You may call our unhappiness 'anti-Muslim,' that's your opinion and that's it will ever be. Just your opinion. Quite frankly I don't care to change your opinion because if slapdash characterizations of positions is all you are interested in examining, then there can be no interchange here.

168 It also looks like Hezbollah and Hamas have both been imported to put down the uprising. At HotAir AP said they were on motorcycles and clubbing anyone with green on. Green apparently is Mousavi's colors.

When I read that it occurred to me that Obama really is a jackass for attempting to take credit for Mousavi winning when Imadinnerjacket had plans all along in the works to 1) steal the election and 2) make sure any and all opposing him disappeared, or would not be encouraged to protest. Obama has jumped the shark! And I am talk the "Jaws" sized shark! This could be popcorn time!

The pictures and video feed lend one to think sheer chaos is full blown, and the hospitals should be full. It is times like these when I am so glad I live in Redneck Central!

169 163 Oooh.  Nigel speaks German.  How. . . surprising.

du hast recht, das ist immer klar. liebe meine monkey, dantzen.

170

164

Why would he say this now?  Isn't it a little late?  But wait!  We have NK damn near calling WAR!.  Iran in total civil unrest. The 'moderate' terrorists killing 11 year old Catholic boys, raping women, burning down villages.  Hamas bombing the shit out of Israel..ETC.  All of this in a month.  You can't convince me that our top people don't suspect that something is going to happen.  They are preimptivly making Cheney the fall guy.

171 #162 Joan is right. Look at a good history book, if you can find one now.. Look. Israel was not there. The land was owned by the Turks, who turned it into a dust bowl under their 600 year rule.

172 Nigel Tufts is an ignorant racist tosser! get a grip, Israel is a whole bunch more democratic than the UE or the USA, Israels neighbours have been a whole lot worse and more land grabbing to the so called palestinians(a recent invention by the way), leaving aside they are supposed to be the same people. The only answer would start with nuking Iran and cutting the support for the murdering pigs called palestinians. As it is said, the trouble will stop when(??) the palestinians learn to love their kids like the jews do.

173 ich boinke sheepen gern. bringen sie ihre sheepen zu mir .

174 Nifty how special citizen squared accused us of being the liberal's favorite buzzword 'far right' and nearly got away with it.  Since he thinks far right=nazi, he should have a chat with Nigel Lima (hopefully leaving the rest of us out) about that whole far right can't criticize Israel thing.

I can criticize Israel.  I think they deal with the palestinians like a bunch of fucking panzies, especially the whole body count minimalizing 'selective killing' they do.  If they want peace then they need to fight and decisively win an all out war with the palestinians.  And by decisive I mean kill so many of the bastards that they can't claim victory by way of survival.  See, Israel's not so hard to criticize.

175 Add me to all who think they know some serious shit is about to hit the fan, and they are trying to make Cheney the new pinata.

Do not forget the al-Qaeda threat about anthrax, and what was it, about 5 days later we find one long ass tunnel from Mexico into Texas. The border patrol said it was the best built tunnel they had seen.

The Miranda Rights deal is not going to help either. If they get caught, what is the worst that could happen? They would get an activist judge who sends them to Palau, or Bermuda!

There are 35 terrorist camps on American soil. We just had Pvt. Long shot and that moron, pos Carlos Bledsoe said there would be more attacks.

And did any of you hear they are transferring some of the CIA powers over to the FBI? It was on Fox this morning. I smell a Pelosi!

And they want to blame Darth Vader! He will nuke them!

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177 It's puzzling to me that no one on the far right is willing to even think that maybe he nation-state of Israel is in any way, shape or form guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever, and it's mostly because they are afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic.

The thing is, criticism is always about the people of Israel. You know the Joooos. They are described as evil, hatemongers, violent people.

So comparing the hatred of America isn't about the people, when it comes to Israel it is about the people.

178 basically the palestinians and most arab states won't even acknowledge israel's right to exist so you know that is kind of a non starter right there.

179 "gay and black" the jews are no threat to normal decent people, unlike islam that is, and just who do you think enslaved your great grandma? the muslims (cunningly called "mohammedans" back then) and what young country was responsible for quashing them (clue- google "barbary pirates")

180

hey, i'm off to sleep but i want to make 2 points:

1:  any moron that saw Charlston Heston as Moses (am i getting this one right?),knows the Jews have been in Israel land for at least 2 millenia.  obviously, the bambi speechwriters don't watch old movies.

2:  if Panetta & the bambi admin. want to make Cheney the fall guy, Cheney will man up for the task.  however, he warns about real threats & joe biden says "gird your loins".  they are both right.

181 Hi di ya, Nigel? How 'bout some hood rat stuff wit r fiends? Thunder Dome style? Two men enter, one man leave. Simple, right? I have my juice men selected: little Rhammiekins and that other guy Alexrod. Select your two men and remember, no refs. and no personal weapons. I'll try to sign Tina Turner to manage.
Solve some problems and get some serious green at the same time. Get in touch if interested.

182 Has any Zionist in world history ever made a factually accurate statement, ever? They ALWAYS lie, it's quite hilarious, like a dog that does tricks.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 06:57 PM (/8Gs3)

Especially when they talk about the "LOLocaust", right?

183

This is just freaking great.

The second Iranian revoution in my lifetime, and it has to happen during Jimmy Carter's second therm.

184

Ditto what Flubber said way back up there, many posts ago.  I feel sorry for the kids, they don't choose to wind up in that mess (guess that shows my anti-anti creds, what it really means is that I basically can't stand people but do have some sentimental feelings for kids, who have to grow up into nasty frakking adults eventually).  Looks like Netanyahu has pitched the ball back into Obama's court, and to America's chagrin, he'll most likely choke on the return volley. (although, to critique Bibi's speech, while a good bit of "back to you Bob", he did make one historical mistake of his own: the Holocaust was not unique in many aspects -- the Turks pretty much did the same to the Armenians; although not with the industrial precision of the Nazis; in fact, I do believe the wee little man cribbed the idea from the Turks).

I guess we'll see what happens -- I've been feeling that something particularly nasty was on its way for a while now.

 

Oh, and Nigel, you are a weapons grade fool.

185 Cool, criticize the Israelis - been waiting for a thread like this:

1.  Stop being such good Socialists, it bugs the hell out of me.

2.  Gotta work on that damn Masada complex

3.  What the hell was the Lebanon campaign?  Next time, take Damascus - then roll to the sea.

4.  Force us to move the Embassy to Tel Aviv - start re-developing the area, cut off power, sewer, etc.  Come on.

5.   Would you guys hurry up and invent something that makes oil irrelevant - so we can stop kissing Arab ass.

186 >>>The second Iranian revoution in my lifetime, and it has to happen during Jimmy Carter's second term.<<<

I know, right?

On the other hand, if there was ever a time Israel needed a man like Netanyahu, it is now.

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188 "du hast recht, das ist immer klar. liebe meine monkey, dantzen."

Touch him!  Love him!  Und now is the time at Schprockets AoSHQ when we dance.

189 How dependent is Israel on the US?

The lefties think that without the aid, diplomatic help, and weapons, that the Israelis would be done for.

I am more doubtful.

Is the Obama plan really comprehensive? Does it include all Arabs having to recognize Israel?

Does it consider about what happens if rocket fire keeps coming from Palestine?

Then the Israelis go in, and the Arabs go to war? I mean, that is not a solution at all.

Wake me up when Hamas actually moves on recognizing Israel and we will talk.

p.s. settlements should be froze, though.

190 "So did the Canadians, until the Israelis intentionally targeted our soldier and murdered him. Rest in peace, Major Hess-von Krudener, I for one have not forgotten."

For the record, the so-called Palestinians sided with the Nazis, and they have not evolved since then (typical of the regressive Islamic mentality). Call them what they really are, not freedom fighters but neo-Nazis.

Waiting to be "pwned" by being called a "faggot" or such. That's right, hippie tard Obama supporters, the gays will go in the ovens again if these Muslim animals win.

I respect your right to religious freedom, but not your right to bury women in the sand up to their necks and stone them to death for being raped. Or burn some cars because you hate the Jooos. There are too many of these non-moderate Muslims for me to believe that religion of peace shit.

191 "If they want peace then they need to fight and decisively win an all out war with the Palestinians.  And by decisive I mean kill so many of the bastards that they can't claim victory by way of survival.  See, Israel's not so hard to criticize."

Easier said than done. The neo-Nazisis are breeding like rabbits. Average age in Gaza? 15.8 -- but at least we can call bullshit on the "genocide" whining.

192

I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.

Obama is the typical child of a divorce, he lived with his mother and her family who tried to teach him discipline and respect (let's leave aside the mother's motives) and then two weeks per year he goes to visit with his father.  The said father is exotic and lets him run wild to piss off the mother so the boy gets all soppy about it and this gets carried on into his adulthood.  It was there for all the world to see in the two biographies that Obama would not be symapathetic either to his mother's country or to its friends.  Netanyahu is giving Obama the benefit of the doubt but how long can he afford to do so?

 

193

 The Germans were moved out of the Sudetenland after WWII. What's the holdup?

I'm afraid that the Arabs learned a lot from that particular event.  Israelis are too christian in their turning of the other cheek.

194

 -- The Germans were moved out of the Sudetenland...

I don't see Jordan or Eygpt (or Syria, or Lebanon either, although Lebanon technically shouldn't count here) lining up to take them on. (The Palestinians, not the Germans.)  For those countries, the Palis are just fine left where they are.

195 Israelis are too christian in their turning of the other cheek.

Whaaaat? Mmmmm....too Christian?

Man for man (or woman), Israel is the best army in the world.

196

The Palestinians do not want peace. If they did, there would have been peace a long time ago. As soon as the world realizes that they can put their heads together and figure out a real solution, or at least an acceptable one.

As you can see, I got late to this party but I can tell you that the above is not going to happen.  If it were to happen it would have done so during Clinton's administartion.  Palestinians have had sixteen years to consider this and they have come to the conclusion that they can string along the West for all it's worth and the West will cooperate because they are squeamish about what needs to be done.  Bush went against a definite villain like Saddam but could not move against dispersed thugs in the Palestinian territories.

Israelis try to keep them in check but what do you do to the ones well financed and supplied by Iran?

197 "Netanyahu is giving Obama the benefit of the doubt but how long can he afford to do so?"

I think Netanyahu has a lifetime of experience and about 20 IQ points on The Won, and has sized him up fairly quickly.

He is swimming with the tide the best he can, allowing Obama to discredit himself.

198 I'm really struck by the fact that the only time we hear the  word "faggot" tossed around, it's being said by an aggressive troll.

199

#16 does BHO believe in any bible? Did that racist church teach from thier pulpit that there is The Bible, or their version of it?

If they did they redacted all the bits that didn't suit them.

 

 

 

 

200

#195 Israelis are too christian in their turning of the other cheek.

Whaaaat? Mmmmm....too Christian?

Man for man (or woman), Israel is the best army in the world.

 

RKG, I was trying to be facetious. 

 

201 "Israel is a whole bunch more democratic than the UE or the USA"

Thread winner right there. The anti-USA sentiment and pro-Israel nuthuggery this thread has unmasked is quite the spectacle. Won't surprise me at all when you traitorous cunts start calling for missile strikes against your own country.

"I think Netanyahu has a lifetime of experience and about 20 IQ points on The Won, and has sized him up fairly quickly."

Twenty points? Obama needed affirmative action by his own admission, his IQ is 100, maybe. Bibi is probably 150 or so, some of his shabbatgoys claim it is as high as 180.

"Man for man (or woman), Israel is the best army in the world."

More evidence of sedition.

"The said father is exotic and lets him run wild to piss off the mother"

Right, because "exotics" - brown people - don't know how to raise children, right sweetie? Gah, and you people call me a Nazi.

"If I was a raghead, I'd wonder"

Raghead? Why not just call them sand n_ggers? Ace, ban this racist piece of shit.

"So let me get this straight: it's not okay for anyone to engage in any anti-semitism for fear of being labeled such by just about everyone, but it is more than okay for just about everyone to be anti-arab, or anti-muslim, or anti-islam."

The homosexualist negro has a point, people, you hate Arabs and repeatedly call for their genocide, you've made about a dozen comments about "snuffing out" white people...and I'm the fucking Nazi? Err, no. Jews are not special, neither are negroes, so it would seem fair game to joke about the LOLocaust if you're going to call for the genocide of whites and Arabs. You look like idiots calling people like me "racist" and calling for genocide of whites and Arabs in the very same breath.

BAM! Thread's over kids, the refereed stopped it at 1:37 of the first round, TKO.

202

#197 I think Netanyahu has a lifetime of experience and about 20 IQ points on The Won, and has sized him up fairly quickly.

JB, I agree and I hope Bibi succeeds, for all our sakes.

203

#201 Right, because "exotics" - brown people - don't know how to raise children, right sweetie? Gah, and you people call me a Nazi.

Listen Nigel, you little so and so, I come from brown people who also know how to suffer but not all of us are hostage to our past.  Just because I use the nom-de-plume of Lily doesn't mean I am white as the driven snow.  Most of us still know what freedom means.

204

#201 You look like idiots calling people like me "racist" and calling for genocide of whites and Arabs in the very same breath.

I don't remember calling for a holocaust of either white people or the Arabs, or anyone else for that matter.  The only one who is comfortable with holocaust, even of his own people, is Ahmadinejad who also finances this mess.

205 Me, neither. I'm anti-holocaust, too.

In fact I am a strong supporter of the foreign policy that brought democracy to Iraq, at considerable risk to our troops.

206

#73 The French won't sell to Israel.

Wow, the Isrealis will be spared planes falling out of the sky.

207

#115  The Palestinians (not a people but a group of Arabs suckered by Arab countries into being cat's paws for them in their unending wars to annihilate the Jews) .

They were not suckered into anything, they are trying to sucker all of us.  OK, after all these years their children may not be aware but their leaders and teachers know.

208

#141 It's puzzling to me that no one on the far right is willing to even think that maybe the nation-state of Israel is in any way, shape or form guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever, and it's mostly because they are afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic. I have no problem with the people who belong to the Jewish race, but I do have a problem with the way the nation of Israel is run, and I do have a problem with the government there. There can be a distinction.

Kinda like how for the last eight years I had no problem with Americans, but I hated the people in power. Wait, what website am I on again?

Oh yeah, you people are ideological sheep, and would never dare to have any independent thought that your talking heads haven't propogandized already. Why am I even trying?

Hay, gayandblack, I'm a  Catholic and you are an idiot.

209

I have no problem with the people who belong to the Jewish race, but I do have a problem with the way the nation of Israel is run, and I do have a problem with the government there. There can be a distinction.

Specifics, please.

Because lurking inside each "sensible" post like this lies some sort of ahistorical bullshit.

210

#162 ...every concession that israel has met has resulted in no reciprocity from the palestinians or the arab forces that support their cause. israel has made a garden out of the desert. lands held by palestinians are a cesspool in comparison.

My grandfather used to say: if someone hits you with a stone hit him with a loaf of bread.  I could  never see the reasoning unless, of course, the loaf was stale and hard as a stone.

211

#164 CIA Director Leon Panetta says former Vice President Dick Cheney's criticism of the Obama administration's approach to terrorism almost suggests "he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Cheney is saying nothing of the sort.  If you ever studies causes of war you would know that weakness invites agression.

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Build more coal and nuke plants. Use the power to make electricity cheaper. This will make plug-in hybrids feasible, and cheaper than gasoline-only vehicles.

Drill moar in the US ... and build refineries.

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