Iran: Election Protests Spread

Ahmadinejad says he won, Mousavi files protest and all hell breaks loose.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says his re-election was "real and free" and cannot be questioned — but that isn't stopping his campaign rival from appealing the results.
Reformist Mir Hossein Mousavi accused the government of voter fraud and many of his supporters have clashed with police in Tehran's streets.
"Today, I have submitted my official formal request to the council to cancel the election result," Mousavi said in a statement. "I urge you Iranian nation to continue your nationwide protests in a peaceful and legal way."
Protesters set fires and smashed store windows Sunday in a second day of violence as groups challenging Ahmadinejad's re-election tried to keep pressure on authorities. Anti-riot police lashed back and the regime blocked Internet sites used to rally the pro-reform campaign.

PJ Media has a rundown of the reports getting out of Iran. Some highlights...

* From Tehran and Tabriz to Mash’had, Esfahan, Kerman, Shiraz, Sanandadj, Babol, and many other cities and towns across Iran people are out in the streets, rioting against the Khomeinist regime’s election results, chanting “Death to the Dictators.”
* Following Khamenei’s order of disconnection of the text messaging and SMS system across Iran on Thursday, since late Saturday evening, June 13, all the cellular phones in Tehran have also been entirely disconnected.
* Entekhab News Agency reported on late Saturday night (June 13) that the other three candidates, Ahmadinejad’s opponents, Mir-Hossein Moussavi, Mehdi Karoubi, and Gholam-Hossein Karbashchi, are now all under house arrest. This report adds that thirty of the journalists who write for the newspaper Etemad’eh Melli (National Trust), owned by Karoubi, are all now also under arrest.

There are unconfirmed (via StopAhmadi Twitter feed) that there are tanks on the streets of Tehran. Please add the appropriate amount of salt to that. One of the benefits of local reports is immediacy, while confirmation can be an issue.

The White House is taking a wait and see approach, which in fairness is about all they can do.

We've been hearing for years about the need for the people of Iran to change their government and how much the US should support dissidents. Well, here's their chance. Are the people of Iran able to change the course of their country or will the regime beat them back? Also, the last time the Iranian people overthrew a government, things didn't turn out so well, so let's not delude ourselves that there's some silver bullet here.

While everyone seems to be pinning their hopes on Mousavi as a moderate and reformer, it's helpful to remember that he was Prime Minister under Ayatollah Khomeini.

Update: Haaretz: Mousavi arrested. Plus this YouTube channel of Iranian street protests.

Speaking before the election, John Bolton wasn't optimistic that much would change (especially on foreign and nuclear policy).

Posted by: DrewM. at 03:30 PM

Comments

1
A Iraninan protest would not be complete without a "Death to _______" chant.

Yeah, great 'reformers' you got there, Iran.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 03:35 PM (Pff7c)

2
From what I understand, the evidence they have for voter fraud is 1) high turnout and 2) a popular opposition party.

Those are the same claims made by the Leftists in 2004 after Bush won. They simply could not *believe* Kerry lost because everyone *they knew* hated Bush.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 03:38 PM (Pff7c)

3 The White House is taking a wait and see approach, which in fairness is about all they can do

That's all they can do now, after doing nothing to encourage a dynamic outcome up til now. They can't even tout the success of democracy in next door Iraq since Obama didn't support it.

(admittedly, Bush didn't do enough with Iran either. Opportunities squandered all around)

Posted by: toby928: Faggotty faux-con fragger at June 14, 2009 03:39 PM (PD1tk)

I won't be able to form an opinion until Adriana Lima or his boyfriend Nigel Tufts, who posts from the same computer, tells me what's up. I'm sure he and he are truly informed insiders about the Iranian elections. I'll just wait until he or he posts whatever drivel is bouncing around his or his skull cavity and declares overwhelming victory against people who are either ignoring him or mocking his dumbassery.

So. Which one of the candidates is the white guy?

Posted by: Squatch at June 14, 2009 03:40 PM (COZb8)

5 By the way, I blame Colin Powell.

Posted by: toby928: Faggotty faux-con fragger at June 14, 2009 03:42 PM (PD1tk)

6 I just didn't want to hear Acmafrigajig's name on the radio anymore.

Posted by: me at June 14, 2009 03:43 PM (5uH2c)

7
The 'reformers' in Iran also claim the race was extremely close therefore the landslide victory does not jive with the pre-election predictions.

Close according to whom? The opposition, that's whom. If their claim of the race being close is bunk, then their entire claim for fraud is total bunkum.

I'm not defending Ahmadinejad. But I smell a rat. I think the 'reformers' are every bit as corrupt as the current regime. And as a rule, I don't believe anything that comes from that part of the world. Liars, all of them.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 03:43 PM (Pff7c)

I hope the protesters start firebombing government buildings and threatening opposition members and their families. It's time for a revolution!

Oh, and that might be a good idea for the folks in Iran, as well.

Posted by: ErikW at June 14, 2009 03:45 PM (hKtiw)

9 Wait. Don't those people know The One has descended to Earth to bring about Paradise?

Posted by: FUBAR at June 14, 2009 03:45 PM (J5Srq)

10 80% turnout for an incumbent?!

Posted by: lions at June 14, 2009 03:47 PM (/uXM9)

11 Guys, does it matter if Dinner-jacket stole the election? No, what matters is the mob thinks he did and appears to be willing to do something about it. I say any instability for Iran before they get nukes is a good thing.

The fact that they were on their roofs at 4 in the morning shouting 'Allahu Ackbar' as a means of protest doesn't really hearten me to their intentions, though.

And please bring on the Nazi to tell us about Iran's superior democracy.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 03:48 PM (wU8X9)

12 Perhaps the mullahs finally went too far this time.

Not to say that the "reformers" are very trustworthy themselves, but I hope all their rioting ends up bringing Iran's current rulers down, I have a feeling that the "reformers" may not neccesarily change too much but would still be a lot better than what Iran's got going on right now. Plus I'd love to see Khomeini and A-jad get their come-upance.

Posted by: ANsar at June 14, 2009 03:50 PM (GOrru)

13 "We want Freedom, we want freedom" (watch the video on MM's site)

Posted by: muffy at June 14, 2009 03:51 PM (zplc6)

These protests will blow over and be gone within a week.

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2009 03:55 PM (5ynkO)

15 Pretty good site

Check the box #Iranelection on the left side

Also, Ive read a few places where some of the "police" are speaking Arabic. Sounds like Dinnerjacket recalled some "freedom fighters" from Palestine.

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 03:57 PM (Th0JI)

Too bad they both can't lose.

/ Henry Kissinger

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2009 03:58 PM (xGIqT)

17 These protests will blow over and be gone within a week.

it's a start though. god i wish we had some kind of cia thing that could help encourage subversive activities .

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 03:58 PM (fAi1/)

18 I WON.

Posted by: Ahmadinejad at June 14, 2009 04:01 PM (eMjOY)

One factor I don't see discussed anywhere is Russia.

Those a-holes have been trying to get their hands on Iran since at least WWII. Anyone think they've given up on that?

Whenever chaos rules in a place like Iran, you can bet your ass that there's a bunch of guys named Boris pushing buttons in the background. Add to that the Chinese interest in Iranian oil, and you've got a real behind the scenes cluster.

For some reason, I don't like the chances for real reform, what with the pack of Nancy-girls we've got in the WH and at State, holding hands and blathering on about "rights" and "human love of freedom" while the hard guys get busy kneecapping the opposition.

Posted by: rickinstl at June 14, 2009 04:01 PM (isRH8)

20 A Iraninan protest would not be complete without a "Death to _______" chant.

Actually they were chanting Death To The Government.

However, don't count on Barry and Co. coming out and denouncing this. These are exactly the types of thuggish tactic's they promote and encourage. Using a partisan apparatus to hijack the voting process to subvert the will of the people and undermine Democracy is a page right out of a liberals playbook.

If he say's anything denouncing the current regime all Achmadinejad has to do is go: "*ahem* ACORN

That's why as I have perused the left side of the web today, liberal outrage over this to me seem's fairly disingenuous.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 04:01 PM (AoS9J)

I hope the protesters start firebombing government buildings and threatening opposition members and their families. It's time for a revolution!

Oh, and that might be a good idea for the folks in Iran, as well.

Posted by: ErikW at June 14, 2009 03:45 PM (hKtiw)

Dear FBI,

ErikW didn't mean that...it was just a joke. Besides he was referring to opposition members and their families who weren't at the ballgame...not the ones that were. And even then, only those opposition members and their families (as well as government buildings) that are over 18 years old.

mmkay?

Posted by: Tami at June 14, 2009 04:05 PM (VuLos)

22 David Gregory lowers the bar for Slow Joe on Iran, he still trips over it

Hot Air - Biden on Iran - video

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:05 PM (93F13)

One factor I don't see discussed anywhere is Russia.

Those a-holes have been trying to get their hands on Iran since at least WWII 1800.

FIFY. Iran (then Persia) was at the center of "the Great Game" between Russia and Britain in the UK. The more things change...

Posted by: Dave J. at June 14, 2009 04:05 PM (naTdL)

24 Yes, the man that Teleprompter selected for his expertise on foreign policy has his eye on the ball:

GREGORY: A couple of years ago, you said the following about Ahmadinejad when you were on the campaign trail: “Ahmadinejad, the madman, is in competition with mullahs and ayatollahs who think he’s overstepped his bounds” … Biden called [him] “that wacko guy, the crazy president,” and said he would be in office for a little more than a year before being “taken out” because he threatened Shi’a interests. He’s proved to be more durable than that, hasn’t he?

BIDEN: Yes.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:07 PM (93F13)

25 That's why as I have perused the left side of the web today, liberal outrage over this to me seem's fairly disingenuous.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 04:01 PM (AoS9J)

I have to, over at Huffpo which actually had pretty good coverage of the event. But they didn't let me down when I went to the comments. Every comment on every page discussed the comparison between this and the "stolen elections" in 2000 and 2004 and how Americans are pussies for not uprising then.

Thank God others were there to tell them all to fuck off in trying to compare what is happening in Iran with a Supreme Court ruling. And they are frothing at the mouth as we speak.

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:08 PM (Th0JI)

26 Whatever the outcome, we can all thank JIMMY CARTER for throwing the Shah under the bus.

Posted by: Daver at June 14, 2009 04:10 PM (khPxz)

27 YouTube is removing videos from Iran.

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:12 PM (Th0JI)

28 Reports are circulating that Venezuela has sent anti-riot troops to Tehran to help Ahmadinejad,

WTF?

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 14, 2009 04:14 PM (pOyB+)

29 27-I hope everyone thought to make copies then.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:14 PM (wU8X9)

30
Mitt Romney was great on ABC's George Stuffitupmyass.

Say what you want about Romney's health care reform in Massachusetts, it's a thousand times better than what Obama has planned.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 04:15 PM (Pff7c)

31 Didn't the Germans send troops to Spain in the early 30's t 'help' with some of their governance issues?

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:16 PM (wU8X9)

32 Twitter on the lack of coverage from "The Most Busted Name in News". Looks like Eason Jordan's successor doesn't want to lose that coveted "access" in Tehran

CNN FAIL - Twitter

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:20 PM (93F13)

33
The bullshit boiled down:

Obama's speech in Cairo, (a shitty, bland, ordinary pabulum speech), inspired a tide of democracy in the Muslim regions.

Bush's policies have made us less safe and increased recruiting for Muslim terrorist organizations.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 04:21 PM (Pff7c)

I assumed Aramalamadingdong would be re-elected, no matter what the actual outcome of the election was. I'm surprised it took those in Iran (or anywhere else) by surprise that this was the outcome.

That said, I don't know enough about Iranian politics to comment knowledgably, or even ignorantly. It doesn't sound like the other guy would've been that much different than Aramalamadingdong, and the mullahs are supposedly the ones really in charge, but then you have the revolutionary guard and it seems like the one who controls them controls the country.

Am I supposed to be hoping the revolution succeeds? Or hoping that it is quickly put down?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 14, 2009 04:23 PM (AJ4xq)

35 YouTube is removing videos from Iran.

TendStl, do you have evidence of that? (I'm asking seriously--I, unfortunately, don't hold much hope for the people with fewer guns in all of this, but I'd be more than happy to try to stick it to the enablers in our country.)

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:23 PM (v0bVb)

36 Also, is it wrong that part of me hopes for the outcome that is worse for Obama? I know that also means it is worse for the US, but I'd just really like to see Obama get his ass handed to him about something.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 14, 2009 04:24 PM (AJ4xq)

37 "Am I supposed to be hoping the revolution succeeds? Or hoping that it is quickly put down?"

Neither. A lengthy period of Iranian anarchy would probably be best.

Posted by: Dave J. at June 14, 2009 04:25 PM (naTdL)

38 Hezbollah is sending troops to replace police that have jumped sides and those who won't beat their own people? That's all kinds of opportunities there. I hope the Iranian protestors will give their foreign visitors a warm welcome.

And somebody might think to take advantage of Hezbollah's distraction, if somebody were inclined to do Lebanon a favor.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:25 PM (wU8X9)

39 Whatever the outcome, we can all thank JIMMY CARTER for throwing the Shah under the bus.

Posted by: Daver at June 14, 2009 04:10 PM (khPxz)

Yup, Jimmy Carter. Second worst president evah!

Posted by: CB at June 14, 2009 04:25 PM (9Wv2j)

40 The reports of Arab-accented or Arabic-only security forces working the streets in the cities is really interesting. Despite the common religion, Persians and Arabs haven't exactly had a loving relationship, historically speaking. If the reports are true, it tells me that the mullahs are hanging on by a thread. If they can't trust their own Revolutionary Guards to act forcefully on the streets, that's a sign of profound weakness.

The American equivalent would be the British use of Hessians in the Revolution, and the Third Amendment (quartering of troops).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2009 04:27 PM (9Lm5R)

41 PGIS, Dave has it right, a lengthy confrontation that leaves Obama no one to have his direct negotiations with is best for preventing him from harming the situation. Particularly good is if the 'youth' discontent extends to Iran's military. If we could get someone like a Musharraf to emerge in Iran, that's probably the best we can hope for at the moment.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:29 PM (wU8X9)

42 TendStl, do you have evidence of that? (I'm asking seriously--I, unfortunately, don't hold much hope for the people with fewer guns in all of this, but I'd be more than happy to try to stick it to the enablers in our country.)

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:23 PM (v0bVb)

Watch this video quick. They keep reposting it but YouTube keeps taking it down. Supposedly the police beat and kill a rioter.

Unbelievable

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:30 PM (Th0JI)

43 The Mullahs f'ked up here. At least from what I've read about this guy, they probably could have continued doing what they've been doing and more pressure would still have been put on Israel to back down now that a reformer was in charge. Now, it makes it tougher for the U.S. to tell Israel to sit back and shut up, and even if Obama wants to do that, this turn of events would make it easier (and the choice clearer) for Netanyahu to go it alone and ignore him.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:32 PM (v0bVb)

44 According the The UK Guardian, Achmedajihad might actually be pulling a coup on the mullahs with this move.

UK Guardian - Aftermath

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:32 PM (93F13)

45 Tend, I don't think I can get upset about youtube taking down snuff videos. If they take down everything Iran related that's one thing, but if it's just this one, I think I have to side with their right ro allow what use they want of their servers.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:33 PM (wU8X9)

46 Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 14, 2009 04:23 PM (AJ4xq)

Moussavi is Dinnerjacket Lite. His platform against Dinnerjacket was wait for it...

too much spending......too much debt

He has also written on a few websites that says that when he wins he would challenge Obama to a debate at the UN.

No teleprompter, he would pwn Obama.

Hope and Change!

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:33 PM (Th0JI)

47 Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:30 PM (Th0JI)

I'll check back periodically and see how long that stays up. Assuming YouTube's doing this, that really ought to turn into a story in and of itself. F'k 'em.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:35 PM (v0bVb)

How long have we been hearing about the myth of the moderate Iranian? I'm not buying it.

Like Bolton said he's only a "moderate" in that he and his supporters chant "Death to America" less often than their opposition in Iran. After over a quarter of a century, there are no more moderates left in Iran. Your only choices now are crazy, very crazy, and extremely crazy and none of them are good.

Posted by: Jim From San Diego at June 14, 2009 04:36 PM (H7Rlw)

49 Every comment on every page discussed the comparison between this and the "stolen elections" in 2000 and 2004 and how Americans are pussies for not uprising then.

I've seen several conservative bloggers call for solidarity with the left on this issue and I was all for it until I saw all the crap being posted comparing this to "stolen 00' and 04'

Screw them. They have no problems with stolen elections as long as the outcomes are favorable to them.

How anyone on the left can be outraged about the mullahcracy in Iran stealing an election from it's citizens without a sense of irony is bewildering.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 04:37 PM (AoS9J)

50 Tend, I don't think I can get upset about youtube taking down snuff videos.

I really think this qualifies as more than that. People aren't watching it get off on somebody dying. It's reporting what's going on and this is one of the few venues where this can get out right now.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:38 PM (v0bVb)

51 I really think this qualifies as more than that. People aren't watching it get off on somebody dying. It's reporting what's going on and this is one of the few venues where this can get out right now.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:38 PM (v0bVb)

I would generally agree with the previous poster, but this much different. This is a governement doing this to its people.

I hate to draw the analogy but if it fits, WIGBDI.

What if it was Bush that did this to his people? YouTube would have it front page and would have taken out an ad on the NY Times telling people to go watch it.

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:41 PM (Th0JI)

52 How long have we been hearing about the myth of the moderate Iranian? I'm not buying it.

There were (if I remember correctly) hundreds of thousands of people holding candle-light vigils in Tehran after 9/11. There are legitimate, reasonable, sane moderate Iranians. The Mullahs have the final say in whether someone can and can't run for office, so I don't discount that the other guy here may still be a nut, but that shouldn't be applied to the population at large.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 04:41 PM (v0bVb)

53 President for Life hussein obama is quick to acknowledge the 'fair and open' iranian elections because he is expecting the same from dinnerjacket in 2012. I'm expecting any urban polling places to have NBP 'observers' with visible clubs and AKs near at hand.

But then I'm a pessimist.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 14, 2009 04:42 PM (TbfH7)

54 Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:32 PM (93F13)

Thanks for linking that, it's a great article.

Posted by: CB at June 14, 2009 04:42 PM (9Wv2j)

55 I think the Mullahs intended that a little drama would make the Iranian "election" look more legit---I think they underestimated the anger their populace feels---or more like, how much less the people fear them than they thought

I so hope I'm right.

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 04:43 PM (Vz+LS)

56
They're right; we should've have revolted when Gregoire stole the Washington gubernatorial election in 2004 and when Al Franken stole senatorial election in 2008.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 04:44 PM (Pff7c)

Watch this video quick. They keep reposting it but YouTube keeps taking it down. Supposedly the police beat and kill a rioter.

Unbelievable

I watched it, the commentors called them YouFascists for taking it down, it's down once more.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:45 PM (93F13)

58
I don't remember any vigils in Iran for the victims of 9/11. Not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember it.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (Pff7c)

59 YouTube =You Suck Dictators' Dick

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (Vz+LS)

60 The comments to the Guardian post are insane. What the fuck is up with all those fucking demented assholes (pretty much every third post) who are comparing this to Gore/Bush? I'd like to see those deranged fucks go live in Iran, and then compare it to the US. Those syphilitic cockholsters just can't help demonstrating how 'open-minded' they are by revealing their complete total fucktarded ignorance.

Fuck them.Fuck them in their stupid asses.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (pOyB+)

61 I guess YouJihad wants CNN type "access" to Iran.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (93F13)

62 The Iranians who want Ahmadinejad gone? Yeah, they're Marxists and socialists and feminists and radical gays. And you people are helping them. Liberal democracy has failed - clearly - so maybe you people should keep your nose out of the business of other sovereign states until you can grab a clue how to govern yourselves.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 04:37 PM (AoS9J)

Oh hi Blazer, our favourite genocidal anti-White freak! Not surprised to see you aligned with the Iranian left yet again. Why don't you strap on your explosive vest, embrace your passions, and let your anti-white hate run its course? You know you want to! DO IT, FAGGOT!!!! You'll be An Hero among your race hustling pals!

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (/8Gs3)

63 @58,

I remember those vigils. The only part of the Muslim world where any compassion for the victims was shown. A spontaneous demonstration by the Iranian people, government completely uninvolved.

If they throw off the Mullahs, we gain another friend in the Middle East.

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 04:48 PM (Vz+LS)

64 The Iranian government hangs people from cranes for being homosexual. Yeah, gays---focus on the country that allows gays to do anything but marry (up to and including carry guns, own property, designate anybody you want as an heir...). That's really productive.

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 04:50 PM (Vz+LS)

65 Iranian television did not cover the protests but instead carried cycled reports of the massive turnout of voters on Friday and Khamenei's confirmation of Ahmedinejad.

Tell us again about Iran's press and constitution, Nigel 'Fuckwit' Lima.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 14, 2009 04:51 PM (pOyB+)

66 AD and all, I agree with your point that this is newsworthy and should be seen so we have an informed view of the Iranian state. All I'm saying is that I think youtube is within their rights to not host a video whose title is basically "OMG Watch this guy get beat to death."

If youtube is taking down other current Iran videos in an attempt to paper over the situation, I'll join you in disgust, but if it's just this one, I'm not inclined to get my dander up.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:52 PM (wU8X9)

67 Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (/8Gs3)

Doesn't count. You didn't use "crypto" a single time.

Posted by: Editor at June 14, 2009 04:52 PM (en7mZ)

68
"my job is to take care of the economy, this whole foreign policy is above my pay grad" In otherwords we elected one opportunist, and a retard.

Posted by: Douglas at June 14, 2009 04:52 PM (uU+Ss)

69 A good friend of mine who is from Iraq (and works for the DNC, go figure) is always trying to convince me that the Iranian people are highly educated and pro-west, but the Mullahs keep a tight grip on the populace. I've always felt he was full of shit, at least I've never seen any evidence that the population was in any way pro-west, but who the hell knows.

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at June 14, 2009 04:53 PM (kGDTD)

70 It's being reported that an influential cleric has issued a fatwa against Achmadinijad. Very interesting. Seem's not only the people are turning on the government but now the mullahs are turning on each other.

"Grand Ayatollah Sanei in Iran has declared Ahmadinejad's presidency illegitimate and cooperating with his government against Islam. There are strong rumors that his house and office are surrounded by the police and his website is filtered. He had previously issued a fatwa, against rigging of the elections in any form or shape, calling it a mortal sin.

I got that from Drew Sully, won't link it, but he's actually been spot on in his coverage of this. So I'll give him credit where credit is do.

However, take it with a grain of salt. I believe the The Supreme Leader is actually a puppet of Achmadinijad now and has been for sometime, not vice versa. Dinnerjacket just uses the Ayatollah to feign legitimacy and has been very effective at installing people who are more loyal to him than the mullahs into his apperatchik over the years.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 04:53 PM (AoS9J)

71 Shit on Twitter is getting weird. Heard a few "rumors" on there asking how long the flight is from Israel to Iran. They are reporting that fighters and refueling tankers took off a couple of hours ago. They didn't where they were going, could easily be routine exercise, and could be plain bullshit.

Either way, still weird.

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:54 PM (Th0JI)

72 "my job is to take care of the economy, this whole foreign policy is above my pay grade"

Apparently, the economy is too.

Posted by: Tami at June 14, 2009 04:55 PM (VuLos)

73 Ah crap, the nazi is here. Please disregard my previous comments. Down with Youtube. Viva la Revolution.

And it's too bad there are no Anglo-Saxons in Iran to get the genocide treatment, or I could cheer for that too.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 04:57 PM (wU8X9)

74 From someone inside Iran

"Among the captured riot police there have been one Palestinian and one Yemenite. Also the two sons and one daughter of Rafsanjani were seen fleeing the country at the Airport yesterday.

Iranians tasted relative freedom in the past three weeks of elections, now do not want to get back into their chains. Iranians do not prefer Mousavi, nor do they only hate Ahmadinejad, they do not want the whole Islamic establishment to its every component."

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 04:57 PM (Th0JI)

75 71-Shhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: Bibi Netanyahu at June 14, 2009 04:59 PM (wU8X9)

76 There's nothing I'd like more than to suck a few good cocks and let's face it, jungle fever with a group of people who is an anti-Semitic as I am is the way to go. Now if I can get one of minorities as worked as you need to be, we can have some fantastic hate sex and your cool glistening shlong rams my ass like an epileptic construction worker with an ancestral oath of vengence against asphalt for hours on end.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:00 PM (v0bVb)

77 @62

And why exactly is this freakshow still being allowed to post here anyway ?

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 05:01 PM (AoS9J)

78 There's nothing I'd like more than to suck a few good cocks and let's face it, jungle fever with a group of people who is an anti-Semitic as I am is the way to go. Now if I can get one of minorities as worked as you need to be, we can have some fantastic hate sex and your cool glistening shlong rams my ass like an epileptic construction worker with an ancestral oath of vengence against asphalt for hours on end.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:00 PM (v0bVb)

FUCKING AWESOME

Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 05:01 PM (Th0JI)

79 So, I thought this Achmed Jihad guy would get taken out inside a year. Even Real Men of Genius like me blow a call now and then.

Hey, I told you that inside of six months that Barack would be tested internationally. Jimmy Carter has given him an "A+" on the test so we're in good hands.

Posted by: Joe Nostradamus Biden at June 14, 2009 05:03 PM (93F13)

80 And why exactly is this freakshow still being allowed to post here anyway ?

I've been wondering that myself

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:04 PM (v0bVb)

81 You guys are forgetting the reason there are no sane candidates in an Iranian election, it's because the mullahs pre-approve everyone that runs for election, and mouthing the usual anti-Israel and anti-western platitudes are pretty much a neccessity to get that approval. I believe most Iranians are not so anti-western, and many could probably be described as pro-western. But the current political arrangment in Iran guarantees no such candidate will ever stand for election.

It may be that the Iranian protestors are misplacing their trust in an establishment figure like Mousavi but I think most of them genuinely want to end the theocracy in favor of a real democracy. The interesting question, I think, is how far does Mousavi take this? Is he a true believer in the islamic revolution? Or is he willing to push this at risk of destroying or crippling the mullocracy? After all Mousavi IS an establishment figure and has benefited form the political arrangment in the mullocracy.

Posted by: ANsar at June 14, 2009 05:05 PM (GOrru)

82 Posted by: TendStl at June 14, 2009 05:01 PM (Th0JI)

It is awesome. Unfortunately, I have to admit I've heard a rumor the last part of it was taken from a classic Ace post. I doubt anybody will object, though.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:06 PM (v0bVb)

83
wait a minute. I'm not buying any of this.

Saddam Hussein was arguably a more brutal dictator than the Iranian mullahs and most Iraqis, to this day, hate their liberator, George Bush and the U.S., with a white hot passion.

Yet I'm to believe that Iranians yearn for freedom and democracy? They want regime change?

The Iranians don't want a western-style democracy; they want a Muslim-leftist-theocracy.

Posted by: Unicles at June 14, 2009 05:06 PM (Pff7c)

62 Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (/8Gs3)

I see it's your turn at the computer. We really don't care about the Iranian election, being the crypto-fags that we are. What we really want to know is:

1) When you post, are you sitting on Adriana Lima's lap?

2) If so, what kind of lube do you two use? KY is old-style, always dependable, but we hear Astroglide might be the very thing for you and Adrian to finally reach that nirvana you've been looking for.

Since you're so into role-play, Nigel Lima, I'd recommend you grab some lace wigs from that remywigs guy who posts here all the time. He's quite popular! His site doesn't have any wigs labelled "Nazi Poof" or anything, so you'll have to make sure you and Adriana come to a firm decision on how your sexual role-play is to evolve. I bet with a scissors and a comb, you can come up with something.

Posted by: Squatch at June 14, 2009 05:07 PM (COZb8)

85 Good updates on Hot Air by Allahpundit. I rag on the guy a lot, but when it comes to issues besides how to "reform" the GOP, he does some good work.

Hot Air - Is Achmedajihad batshit crazy?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 05:10 PM (93F13)

86 I've been hoping that Israel would take out the Iranian nuke facilities for some time and believe they eventually will. However not only is this the perfect time to do it, it's also the worst time to do it.

An attack by them now on Iran would take what ever steam this possible revolution has in it, get the people back on the side of the government and give creedence to some conspiracy theory bullshit that somehow the Zionist's have infiltrated and were behind this upheaval all along.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 05:10 PM (AoS9J)

87 76-But be sure to contact your doctor at the four hour mark as it may be the sign of a medical problem.

Posted by: Cialis at June 14, 2009 05:11 PM (wU8X9)

88 From Allahpundit:

Occam’s Razor suggests that this is a true coup, with Ahmadinejad rigging the results himself and then somehow forcing Khamenei to bless them. But how could he manage that? What’s really going on here?

Exit question: How soon before Hezbollah and Hamas are ordered to attack Israel to distract the Iranian masses?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 14, 2009 05:13 PM (93F13)

89 Damn, Blazer. That's exactly what I was thinking. Here's what I was going to post on that very issue.

The devious part of my character is thinking that this may be, at least partly, a ploy to get Israel to stand down from hitting the Iranian nuke sites. The rhetoric was really ramping up, Bibi is now in power, and everyone was expecting an Israeli strike within weeks.

But if the Israelis strike now, the Iranians would most likely rally around the government against a foreign attacker, even with the unrest that's going on. It's similar to the effect that the Iraqi invasion had on the revolution in '80.

The Israelis are sophisticated enough to know this, so they stand down.

The question I have is: are the mullahs sophisticated enough to plan something like this? I doubt it, but it's worth considering.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2009 05:15 PM (9Lm5R)

90 FYI, Reza Pahlavi, the pretender to the Iranian throne, called yesterday for the end of the Islamic Republic. This may not carry that weight inside Iran (though I suspect it does carry some with young Iranians who've known nothing but theocracy), but it's hugely significant to the post-1979 Iranian diaspora throughout the rest of the world.

Posted by: Dave J. at June 14, 2009 05:17 PM (naTdL)

91 "However not only is this the perfect time to do it, it's also the worst time to do it."

Look at how perverse it is. Perfect time, also the worst time. Yeeeesh. Men with Anglo-Saxon blood coursing through their veins simply do not talk like this.

Hey, shitcock, English is my language and I must inform you that you haven't the foggiest idea how to speak MY English language. Should you insist on speaking a white language, speak it like us white people do, mmmkay?

"And it's too bad there are no Anglo-Saxons in Iran to get the genocide treatment, or I could cheer for that too. Posted by: Methos"

Looks like it's time for another call to interpol...

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:18 PM (/8Gs3)

92 Exit question: How soon before Hezbollah and Hamas are ordered to attack Israel to distract the Iranian masses?

Oh you can probably count the hours. If there is anything this regime needs desperately more than anything right now it's a Reichstag Fire.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 05:18 PM (AoS9J)

93 "my job is to take care of the economy, this whole foreign policy is above my gay parade"

Posted by: Prezzy Obama at June 14, 2009 05:19 PM (hKtiw)

94 Admit it: you people want to force your gay marriage and affirmative action and feminism and ursury and shitty teevee on the Iranians. They are insufficiently "progressive" for your liking, yes? Yes.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:20 PM (/8Gs3)

He can't afford lube, he makes do with spit that he lets thicken in a jar for a week.

Posted by: Adrainna Lima at June 14, 2009 05:20 PM (7FgWm)

96 this is pretty ironic it seems. the shah was ousted by the same forces that are opposing dinner jacket.

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 05:21 PM (fAi1/)

97 why oh why are we feeding the nazi troll ?

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 05:22 PM (fAi1/)

98 The thing I like best about a black cock is that it's naturally long. Many people will say they're long in general. Not true. At full staff they're about the same length as other races. However, while white men need to get aroused to really ooze into the nether regions of my body and make me feel dominated and at peace, minority cocks naturally start off long and will always do the job. This is the reason for my bitterness, envy, and disdain for the darker races.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:22 PM (v0bVb)

99 "Reichstag Fire."

Of course Blazer can't go 5 minutes without Godwinning a thread; anti-white activists are obsessed with Hitler, it is their cult.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:23 PM (/8Gs3)

100 i love to suck cock.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:23 PM (fAi1/)

101 "97 why oh why are we feeding the nazi troll ?"

Sweetie, I'm not a Nazi, I'm a conservative and you're projecting. Now fuck off with the insults and stay on topic.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:25 PM (/8Gs3)

102 88-And that may be why rumors are floating around about increased IDF activity. But let's think about what other targets of opportunity may present themselves. If Hezbollah acts up, with a significant portion of their firepower back in Iran putting down riots, and after the thorough rejection they got in the Lebanese elections, this would be a perfect time for Israel to go back north and finish them.

And if the mullah's are fracturing, instead of the nuclear program, how much bombing would it take against dinnerjacket loyalists to create the chaos that would give the rioters room to grow? Just a thought. And it's too bad we don't have anyone in government who might consider taking advantage of the situation.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 05:25 PM (wU8X9)

103 Hey, shitcock, English is my language and I must inform you that you haven't the foggiest idea how to speak MY English language.

No actually English is now my language. We earned that right when we kicked your limey asses twice in a row and sent you guy's back to Britanniastan with your tail's tucked between your leg's.

Plus with the way things are going over in England we'll probably be the only ones left speaking it before too long. Hope you've had a chance to brush up on your Farsi.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 05:26 PM (AoS9J)

104 i also like to fuck guys in the ass.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:27 PM (fAi1/)

105 "Admit it: you people want to force your gay marriage and affirmative action and feminism and ursury and shitty teevee on the Iranians. They are insufficiently "progressive" for your liking, yes? Yes."

I'd actually like to see the restoration the Iranian monarchy. Call that "progressive" if you want, but I regard it as rather more conservative and organic to the Persian people than is revolutionary totalitarian theocratic fascism based on Khomeini's heterodox interpretation of Shia Islam. The Persians were already one of the world's great and ancient civilizations when Arab barbarians like Mohammed were living in tents.

Oh wait, a lot of them still live in tents.

Posted by: Dave J. at June 14, 2009 05:29 PM (naTdL)

106 The cool thing about calling myself a conservative (this is what mobies do) is that it allows me to distance myself from the Nazi connotations. You see, the Nazis were originally founded and supported by a bunch of flaming homosexuals--Ernst Rohm, the top of the SA, etc. Now, don't get me wrong I support everything they believe in, and they were cute and all, but if you're an open homosexual, you're only going to get other open homosexuals. To really seduce a butch guy into jabbing his dick up your ass, you need to play it straight. And that, my friends, is why I don't call myself a Nazi.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:30 PM (v0bVb)

107 "Plus with the way things are going over in England we'll probably be the only ones left speaking it before too long. Hope you've had a chance to brush up on your Farsi."

Ace, ban this piece of shit racist. Ban Gabe Malor too, he started all this when he sneered at me for being Canadian. Hating Canadians is OK here, hating white people is OK here, so why are you so bent out of shape that I allegedly hate some races?

So we're clear that everyone's racist and no one is racist and we should all stick on topic instead of calling each others Nazi's? Good.

AoS commenters want to force their gay marriage and feminism and shitty teevee and movies and usury and unions and high taxes on the Iranians, and that is a fact. They're Marxists, the lot of them.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:30 PM (/8Gs3)

108 please cum on my face.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:31 PM (fAi1/)

109 Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 04:46 PM (/8Gs3)

Did you guys get a new pet while I was away for a few days or did Adriana Lima evolve into something even more obnoxious?

Posted by: DrewM. at June 14, 2009 05:32 PM (iTt2X)

110 NT/AL must be very lonely with only the voices in his head to keep him company. Even as vile as he is, I can't help but feel some kind of repulsed pity for him. I imagine his life is punishment enough for his hateful personality.

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 14, 2009 05:32 PM (sXXzu)

111

Yeah. Whatever. In 6 months 8 weeks 2 weeks tomorrow no one in the MSM will give a crap. GO Journalists!

fucking shitbags.

Posted by: tangonine at June 14, 2009 05:33 PM (C8Pcc)

112
Did you guys get a new pet while I was away for a few days or did Adriana Lima evolve into something even more obnoxious?

why do you say that. let me suck your cock .

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:33 PM (fAi1/)

113 joan, we're feeding the nazi troll because it amuses us to do so. I'm still hoping he'll get around to explaining what he thinks 'conservative' means, since none of us are sufficiently master race enough to figure it out.

I mean, dude thinks interpol matters and that english matters outside of American usage of the language. And feigns offense at the annihilation of the Anglo-Saxon population of his ideal democracy Iran. How else are we going to find comedy like that?

I just hope we can somehow goad him into fighting palin steele. It would be a totally epic battle, like Captain America vs. the Red Skull.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 05:34 PM (wU8X9)

114 "totalitarian theocratic fascism "

Whoa, that's a lot of isms, fella. Iran is not totalitarian, you have no idea what the word means. Theocracy yes, but not as much as, say, Israel. And please do not smear the glorious tradition of fascism by comparing it to the Iranian Republic, they aren't remotely fascist.

You people don't understand the English language, or politics, or humans.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:34 PM (/8Gs3)

115 Nigel keeps posting, and all I hear is farting. Someone get a cork.

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 05:34 PM (Vz+LS)

116 What Nigel/Lima doesn't understand is conservatism transcends race, color and class. It's liberalism which enslaves, and pit's the races and the classes against each other.

The Nazi's were a bunch of socialist lefties, which is why he creams his panties every time they're mentioned.

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 05:34 PM (AoS9J)

117 "They're Marxists, the lot of them."

Part of me feels that Britain's decline since the end of the First World War is still ongoing just punishment for failing to save the Tsar and his family. How Marxist is that?

Posted by: Dave J. at June 14, 2009 05:35 PM (naTdL)

118 Ace, ban this piece of shit

I like how he keeps trying to guilt Ace into helping him. Yeah, Ace is going to ban people who've been here for years to satisfy a bigoted leftist moby. Any time now. Hold your breath.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:35 PM (v0bVb)

119 115 Nigel keeps posting, and all I hear is farting. Someone get a cork.

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 05:34 PM (Vz+LS)

And the air freshener . . .

Posted by: CB at June 14, 2009 05:35 PM (9Wv2j)

120 "What Nigel/Lima doesn't understand is conservatism transcends race, color and class."

Not true, ethnics cannot be conservatives, what they want to conserve - presumably sloth, unpunctuality, chaos, corruption, having children out of wedlock, hating white people, and sucking at creating wealth - is vastly different than what we white people want to conserve, this is a key, key point. They - ethnics - despise white traditions and values; that ain't conservative, shitcock, in the slightest.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:40 PM (/8Gs3)

121 Ace, ban this piece of shit racist. Ban Gabe Malor too, he started all this when he sneered at me for being Canadian.

Sorry, I didn't realize you were Canadian. My condolences

Posted by: Blazer at June 14, 2009 05:40 PM (AoS9J)

122 Ace, ban this piece of shit racist.
Totally agree, ball gag the nazi.
Ban Gabe Malor too,
Heh, I suppose Ace should ban all the cobloggers who disagree with the nazi. Heck Ace should ban me, too (right after sicking 'interpol' on me). Hell, Ace should ban himself!

Honestly, no one but the nazi, ps, and Joe Biden should be allowed to post.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 05:41 PM (wU8X9)

123 Am I the only one who can no longer tell the sockpuppet from the real Nigel any more?

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at June 14, 2009 05:41 PM (kGDTD)

124 "...ethnics cannot be conservatives, what they want to conserve - presumably sloth, unpunctuality, chaos, corruption, having children out of wedlock, hating white people, and sucking at creating wealth..."

Shit, who knew?

Posted by: Japan at June 14, 2009 05:43 PM (naTdL)

125 "Sorry, I didn't realize you were Canadian. My condolences"

We have a Conservative government that is clean and runs surpluses; it is you, shitcock, who one should feel sorry for. Tell us some more about how you want to strap on your explosive vest and kill some white people: shopping mall, or college campus?

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:44 PM (/8Gs3)

126 122 Ace, ban this piece of shit racist.
Totally agree, ball gag the nazi.
Ban Gabe Malor too,
Heh, I suppose Ace should ban all the cobloggers who disagree with the nazi. Heck Ace should ban me, too (right after sicking 'interpol' on me). Hell, Ace should ban himself!

This talk of blatant banning gives credence to the theory that the moby is a Cahrles Jhonsno apostle

Posted by: Jim Cramer at June 14, 2009 05:46 PM (93F13)

127 BTW, I hate to harp on this, but you all do realize this is a moby right? He was outed a while ago. He, in turns, pretends to be an American, Canadian, and Brit here. Hell, he could still be a racist leftist, but don't fall for it, the guy is a leftist.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:46 PM (v0bVb)

128 "We have a Conservative government that is clean and runs surpluses"

Oh, so now it's Stephen Harper's cock you want to suck? And then you woke up.

Posted by: Dave J. at June 14, 2009 05:47 PM (naTdL)

129 "We have a Conservative government that is clean and runs surpluses;"

In the last thread you were saying your government was much worse than ours and that you're trying to warn us so that we don't end up having that, you idiot.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:48 PM (v0bVb)

130 "BTW, I hate to harp on this, but you all do realize this is a moby right? "

Fuck you people are gay. This is not a heterosexual debate tactic you are using. I liked it better when you were cheering on the "snuffing out" of the Anglo-Saxons, at least that was somewhat manly.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:48 PM (qSWxU)

131 "In the last thread you were saying your government was much worse than ours"

Amazing, you intentionally misunderstood what I said, what astronomical odds! That, too, is a homosexual debate tactic.

I said my country was in bad shape, not the federal government, which I explained to you was actually pretty good all things considered. Idiot.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:50 PM (qSWxU)

132 Shall I deploy the remote Thorazine dispensers, or simply call up my flying monkeys?

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 05:50 PM (Vz+LS)

133 Fuck you people are gay.

People who toss out accusations of gay are generally closeted homosexuals.

True Story.

Posted by: Joe "Roy Cohn" Biden at June 14, 2009 05:51 PM (v0bVb)

134 Amazing, you intentionally misunderstood what I said

You're an idiot who confuses ad homs and cursing for arguments. Hence, why you're a leftist. You were bitching about Harper. You had a problem with the government. You're an idiot.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:52 PM (v0bVb)

135 Is there a smart person at this blog? Hey, maybe pool your fucking money together and hire a smart person to debate me, your brilliant debate tactic of calling me a Nazi and crying like fucking babies every time I break your shitty narrative is insufficient.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:53 PM (qSWxU)

136 every time I break your shitty narrative is insufficient.

Tell us again about the free Iranian press, you syphilitic cock.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 14, 2009 05:54 PM (pOyB+)

137 Ad, sure. All glorious fascists are little more than liberals who couldn't cut it.

nazi at 125: I was actually thinking of adding flouride to your water supply until it rendered you all sterile and let nature take it's course. Because slow genocide is the way I roll.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 05:55 PM (wU8X9)

138 Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 05:53 PM (qSWxU)

You're an idiot who confuses ad homs and cursing for arguments. Hence, why you're a leftist. You're an idiot.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 05:56 PM (v0bVb)

139 Nigel, we only debate within our species.

Posted by: Sekhmet at June 14, 2009 05:58 PM (Vz+LS)

140 BTW, I hate to harp on this, but you all do realize this is a moby right?

AD, I ask this sincerely ... isn't AL/NT too over the top batshit crazy to be a moby? Or is he just really bad it?

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 14, 2009 06:00 PM (sXXzu)

141 This talk of blatant banning gives credence to the theory that the moby is a Cahrles Jhonsno apostle

You know, I mentioned the other night that I thought this troll was an LGF troll, and I almost could tell you exactly which one too.

Posted by: John Edwards at June 14, 2009 06:00 PM (AoS9J)

142 I second Waterhouse, let's here about the glorious free people of Iran. Or the norks, I know you've been meanining to get to that ever since you picked up "Third World Shitholes for Dummies."

And calling you a nazi isn't a point of debate. We all agree that you're a nazi and you've referred to the glorious history of fascism, so obviously you know you're a nazi, destined to similar fate. That's the one thing we agree on.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 06:00 PM (wU8X9)

143 Or is he just really bad it?

He's bad at it. If you want I'll dig out the threads where he was outed, but he's changed his story on his background in order to try to argue here (at times implying he's an American, Canadian, Brit, etc.). He's just a more aggressive idiot, that's all.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 06:06 PM (v0bVb)

144 John Edwards, I think that deserves an experiment. Hey, nazi, what are your feelings about Liberal Genocidal Ferengi like Charles Johnson?

(Okay, you all know what I mean, but ace has standards about the ghey name calling)

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 06:07 PM (wU8X9)

145 AD, so he's just a wannabe nazi? Not really worth my time then.

Posted by: Methos at June 14, 2009 06:08 PM (wU8X9)

146 could i toss your salad13 joan, we're feeding the nazi troll because it amuses us to do so. I'm still hoping he'll get around to explaining what he thinks 'conservative' means, since none of us are sufficiently master race enough to figure it out. ?

it may be amusing, but nazis really only deserve a bullet in the head. i don't play with nazis.

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 06:09 PM (nlGAy)

147 That's the thing, I'd call him just a moby, but it's not like leftist anti-Semite are two words that are anathema to each other. The guy isn't a conservative, though.

Posted by: AD at June 14, 2009 06:09 PM (v0bVb)

148 123 Am I the only one who can no longer tell the sockpuppet from the real Nigel any more?

i'm totally confused but i think we should all change or names to sock puppet his ass.

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 06:11 PM (nlGAy)

149 Fuck you people are gay.

Projection; its not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: toby928: Faggotty faux-con fragging race traitor at June 14, 2009 06:15 PM (PD1tk)

150 No need, AD. I'll take your word for it. I know he lies and changes his identity. I guess I just figured a moby would try to pretend to be a little more ... ummm ... what's the word ... oh yeah ... sane.

I thought the endgame for a moby was to foment dissension among commentators on conservative blogs. He actually provides a diametrically opposed dynamic.

I got no problem allowing for the possibility he is a stupid and batshit insane moby.

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 14, 2009 06:15 PM (sXXzu)

151 he may be a leftist moby hoping that someone will agree with his racist crap so that that can be exploited on another blog, he may in actuality be a nazi dickehead. i don't know i don't care. i'm not amused really. anyone that spouts that shit has to be taken at face value and it's totally unacceptable.

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 06:15 PM (nlGAy)

152 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Posted by: Angry White Dude at June 14, 2009 06:18 PM (3883C)

153 I felch Hitler in my dreams.

Posted by: Nazi Nigel Tufts, White Supremacist at June 14, 2009 06:20 PM (MMC8r)

154 Shall I deploy the remote Thorazine dispensers, or simply call up my flying monkeys?

I vote flying monkeys. They're scarier, and more fun to watch.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2009 06:20 PM (9Lm5R)

155 And calling you a nazi isn't a point of debate. We all agree that you're a nazi and you've referred to the glorious history of fascism, so obviously you know you're a nazi, destined to similar fate. That's the one thing we agree on.

no debating with nazis, reason is useless and does nothing but respectability to their views. nazis want to create genocide and death. i won't argue with them or tolerate them whatsoever.

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 06:22 PM (nlGAy)

156 it may be amusing, but nazis really only deserve a bullet in the head.

Obviously, joan should be banned as soon as you can get around to it, ace. Which I know will be soon, since the best way for you to prove yourself to your sponsors is to pander to the one nazi who comments here.

Posted by: nazi troll who needs to be repeatedly struck with an aluminum cluebat at June 14, 2009 06:28 PM (wU8X9)

157 56 it may be amusing, but nazis really only deserve a bullet in the head.

ace if you think i'm a nazi, ban me it's your site.

Posted by: joan at June 14, 2009 06:35 PM (nlGAy)

158 I'd have rolled the dice more, taken more risks. Generally, not let fear rule my life.

I would have told the only man I've ever loved that I loved him. The outcome wouldn't have been any different, but I wouldn't have to live with the half-life of regret.

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 14, 2009 06:38 PM (sXXzu)

159 Sorry, wrong thread.

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 14, 2009 06:39 PM (sXXzu)

160 Random ICQ messaged 20+ id's from Iran. Two different guys accepted chat conversations... both hate the dinnerjacket, think he's stealing the election, and think things are going to get worse not better...
The second one loves Obama and thinks Bush is king of terrorists and brought down the trade towers ...
He also wondered why I called him Dogbreath after that ...

Posted by: Hiltop at June 14, 2009 06:54 PM (m792P)

161 #151 Joan, I see where you are going with this,and In support you. THe Nazi's were, are are, very bad people.. We can see where BHO is taking this country at very rapid pace. Here comes the steamroller, and our liberties are in its path.

Posted by: mystry at June 14, 2009 07:04 PM (kmgIE)

162

Well, to get back on topic, hopefully, there are several possibilities here:

1. As Hot Air thinks, maybe Ahmadman is in fact trying to pull a coup, counting on his support from the Revolutionary Guard and the rural poor to do whatever he wants done. Possible, not likely.

2. Ahmandman is doing the bidding of the Mullahs in the supreme council, who want to create an image of weakness to prevent an Israeli attack until their nukes are ready. Possible, most dangerous if so.

3. The supreme council is divided, with the majority wanting to rig the election in favor of Ahmadman and a minority pulling for someone else, hence riots in the streets. Possible.

4. Despite being vetted by the supreme council, the opposition guy is a real reformer and his followers are spontaneously protesting a rigged election (in other words, for once things really are as they seem). Can't rule it out, but in a theocracy where they happily hang people in public with public approval, not likely in my book.

I personally think number 2 is most likely, but YMMV.

Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at June 14, 2009 07:13 PM (3EohY)

163 161 #151 Joan, I see where you are going with this,and In support you. THe Nazi's were, are are, very bad people.. We can see where BHO is taking this country at very rapid pace. Here comes the steamroller, and our liberties are in its path.

i don't equate libs with nazis. the nazis advocated genocide from day one. anyone who holds those beliefs is my enemy to death, because sooner or later if they take power it will be me or them. libs are basically democratic and appeal to reason at least ostensibly so. i beleive in human nature and hence i believe in capitalism, the majority of people will inevitably do what is best and what is right.

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164 #163. I see your division quite clearly. The problem is BHO. I do think that he believes in capitalism. The majority of the people at the moment, are quite content to go along with him, and anything he wants to do. 60% is a big number of people. When are his numbers going to go down?

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165 64 #163. I see your division quite clearly. The problem is BHO. I do think that he believes in capitalism. The majority of the people at the moment, are quite content to go along with him, and anything he wants to do. 60% is a big number of people. When are his numbers going to go down?

they will, they may be going down already. when we see the results of his policies clearly - double digit inflation and double digit unemployment, people will come to their sinces. carter was a one term president , i believe obama will be also.

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well your ideas and how you articulate them is what's most important. i value substance more important than style.

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it's cool , the thread is dead. talk to you on another one.

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172 Obama wouldn't but I wonder if, say ISRAEL could use a plane safely out of missile range to provide SMS text message coverage for parts of Iran...

Is Washington doing anything to help keep the protests going? Or is the President just voting Present...President Present...

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"Mousavi's socialist ideology became very apparent during the 1980s when he initiated Islamic Socialist policies such as subsidized food coupons, oil coupons and converting private enterprises into government controlled entities. Mr. Mousavi ordered the mass-executions of 1980-81, as well as the summer 1988 executions of over 30,000 political prisoners, who were then buried in mass graves.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Mousavi’s parliamentary followers supported continuing islamic resistance operations in Lebanon...Mousavi partially favored state controls over the economy rather than free-market policies. He had also opposed ending the Iran-Iraq war, claiming that "a large portion of the masses" were indignant over the cease-fire."

Mass graves, socialism, supporting Hesbollah...you sure you guys want this cat?

"Back at the time when Mousavi was the Prime Minister -- when this office existed as the actual head of the cabinet in the 1980s - under whose direction Islamic Revolutionary Guards entered Lebanon in huge numbers and laid the framework for today's Lebanese Hezbollah and established the IRI's hold on Lebanon, for the purpose of militarily engaging and destroying Israel. In 1981 in the magazine Payameh Enghelab Mousavi stated that “We are ready to participate within an armed force to fight Israel… We have repeatedly announced that we are ready to have an actual, real and military presence in Southern Lebanon and on the borders of the occupied Palestinian lands…we believe that with the support of the popular forces in Lebanon we shall be able to gradually find effective and powerful bases in the area for fighting Israel …we believe if the flow of oil in Muslim Lands is in the hands of Muslims and if the ideology of Islam controls the opening or closing of the oil valves we shall be able to bring the World Arrogance to its knees, to strike Israel and to destroy it.”"

So, glad that Ahmadinejad won, or is he insufficiently anti-Israel for your liking? :-)

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 14, 2009 09:57 PM (/8Gs3)

176 As the resident LGF ambassador (well, one of them), I'd just like to say that (1) Nigel Tufts isn't me and (2) I hope Ace is tracking his IP so as to send it to Charles, so Charles can ban his ass. I don't want him trolling around in LGF any more than you want him here.

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Has anyone thought about the possibility that the Iranians finally just gagged at their entire gov't? And this is a protest because they want to rid themselves of the entire mess? Pity them if so, there's no leader to step in that can be seen.

Of course, that'll mean the present regime will simply stomp a large group of iranians flat, and life will go on as before.

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Congratulations, only 5,176 people (including myself) had already noted that on this blog before you learned it. Good going genius.

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As a Jew, I would rather have Iran run by the Israelis.

Barring that, I hope the students rise up and take out Ahmanutjob, then allow for Israel to come through and thoroughly destroy the Supreme Muslim Council.

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