NY: The Banana Republic

In November NY Democrats took control of the state Senate for the first time in 30 years. 6 months in to the session, they may have lost it. Two Democrats have switched sides and now the Republicans have 32-30 majority.

"An historic change in leadership is taking place at this moment and a new bipartisan, coalition is being established that is bringing real reform to the Senate RIGHT NOW," according to a news advisory sent out by the GOP.
The Associated Press reported that two Democrats -- Hiram Monserrate of Queens and Pedro Espada, Jr. of the Bronx -- are poised to announce that they have decided to caucus with the GOP out of anger at Senate Majority Leader Malcolm Smith.

The Democrats had trouble organizing the Senate in January as 3 Democrats flirted with the idea of caucusing with Republicans. Same sex marriage was a major part of the battle then. There seemed to be agreement that same sex marriage wouldn’t come up and the Democrats were able to take control. However, as Gov. Patterson’s numbers tanked (he’s polling lower than Client No.9), he tacked left and decided to go for it.

That may not have been the main motivation however as only one of the two involved in today’s move was part of the hold up in January.

Right now, the new “Republicans” are making noise about government reform and it looks like billionaire Tom Golisano (who has run for Governor before and says he’s leaving NY for Florida over high taxes) is some how involved.

The Democrats meanwhile, shut off the lights and pulled the plug on the TV feed on the way out. They say they are still in charge and will go to court if necessary.

I'm looking forward to Rudy running for Governor next year. He might announce soon to capitalize on the chaos or he may wait. If he goes now Andrew Cuomo will likely jump in and that might help the Democrats rally together. The election isn't until '10, so there's no rush.

The problem for Cuomo is ran against Carl McCall in 2002. McCall was the first black elected statewide (he was Comptroller) and the first serious black candidate for Governor. People were not thrilled with Andrew. I don’t think he wants to be the guy who keeps running against black Democrats. Especially if at the end of that road is an ass kicking from Rudy.

Either way the Democrats are about as fucked as you can be in a state like NY.

Not Great: One of the new Republicans, Hiram Monserrate, is under indictment for assault on his girlfriend.

Sen. Martin Golden, a Brooklyn Republican, said Monserrate should resign -and he blasted Democratic leaders for continuing to support Monserrate.
"If we're going to protect people that would abuse women and abuse any body in this fashion, there is something wrong with that," he said.

I'd love to hear Senator Golden's new tune.

Extra Awesome! The second new Republican has some campaign finance violations to deal with.

As someone once said, politics makes for strange bedfellows.

Posted by: DrewM. at 04:53 PM

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1 The Democrats meanwhile, shut off the lights and pulled the TV plug on the way out

How mature!

Posted by: IC at June 08, 2009 04:55 PM (jZNCU)

2 Is this a good thing, or a bad thing? Will legislation actually change, or will the Republicans just get blamed for the troubled state situation?

Posted by: toby928 at June 08, 2009 04:57 PM (PD1tk)

3 2010 is looking better all the time.

Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2009 04:57 PM (qfb86)

4 "An Historic"? Does historic start with a vowel sound? Come on GOP, we can do better than that.

Posted by: Michael E. Stora, Ph.D. at June 08, 2009 04:58 PM (UpJts)

5 If the tide is going to turn toward conservatism, this is as good a place as any to start.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 08, 2009 05:00 PM (ZGhSv)

6 With Sarah Palin becoming more vocal, this story about New York and Daniel Hannan's Seuss inspired victory speech in Europe, I have a nice smile on my face and real "hope" for humanity.

Posted by: Trish at June 08, 2009 05:00 PM (0U5Kd)

7 Posted by: toby928 at June 08, 2009 04:57 PM (PD1tk)

It's a reasonably good thing.

The budget is done so they won't have much impact on that (unless mid year cuts need to be made). Keep in mind though NYS Republicans aren't exactly conservatives. They just want to drop tons of school aid on LI and the suburbs instead of NYC.

The big thing is Democrats just look like idiots. If Rudy runs he will waltz to victor and he will get the state's finances under control.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 08, 2009 05:00 PM (PLGGU)

Whither the flaming skull?

Between this, the SC decision on zombie Chrysler, the poll numbers showing elephants ahead on the economy, it's a pretty good day!

Posted by: Fallen Sparrow at June 08, 2009 05:00 PM (SOf9N)

9 Gang, I live in the USSRNYC. The republicans in this state are moderate democrats. Not a single conservative bill has passed my eyes in the 15 years I have lived here, they just keep banning this and that and taxing us into oblivion.

Posted by: Ben B. at June 08, 2009 05:03 PM (rs7M9)

10 HA!

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11 9 Gang, I live in the USSRNYC. The republicans in this state are moderate democrats. Not a single conservative bill has passed my eyes in the 15 years I have lived here, they just keep banning this and that and taxing us into oblivion.

I think they'll be dancing to Golisano's tune for a while.

First step will be working on a repeal of that high-earner tax that forced him to move his domicile to Florida for tax purposes.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 08, 2009 05:04 PM (2A9Nl)

12 4. Michael E. Stora, Ph.D

Why, yes, "historic" does begin with a vowel sound, so "an" is the correct indefinite article.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2009 05:04 PM (31uhq)

13 "12 4. Michael E. Stora, Ph.D

Why, yes, "historic" does begin with a vowel sound, so "an" is the correct indefinite article."

BAM! as Emeril would say. You beat me to it. I only have a master's degree - in music! - and I knew that. I also know how to use vis-a-vis properly. LOL!

Posted by: Hucbald at June 08, 2009 05:08 PM (O9yAg)

14 So it is OK for a repub. to change parties. no problem. But for a dem. to change party is "No fair" That is cheating ,and the dem, party will call it null and void. Anyone see a problem with this?

Posted by: Mystry at June 08, 2009 05:08 PM (dIHlE)

15 Both are under investigation by the law. What ya expect, they're democrats.

Posted by: ricky at June 08, 2009 05:09 PM (tAZMF)

16 "An Historic"? Does historic start with a vowel sound? Come on GOP, we can do better than that.

"H" in many languages is really an aspiration or cue to breath, not an independent vowel - for example, the "H" sound in Attic Greek is made by addition of a superscript (the "breathing mark") and not a letter proper. Ergo, "H" preceding a vowel is kind of like a naked vowel, and the article "an" is acceptable, if not preferred in certain dialects.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 08, 2009 05:09 PM (AlKlj)

17 Goddess of the classroom, since when is H a vowel sound? I thought AEIOU and sometimes Y were the only vowels.

Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2009 05:11 PM (qfb86)

18 Hiram Monserrate of Queens and Pedro Espada, Jr. of the Bronx -

Self loathers..

Posted by: TendStl at June 08, 2009 05:11 PM (RdZpy)

19 So it looks like the NY legislators with 'R's after their names get to drive the liberal bus around for awhile. Yawn.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2009 05:12 PM (FnH/u)

20 Just you wait, 'enry 'iggins!

Posted by: Fucking Cockney Speech-Mangler at June 08, 2009 05:13 PM (ByHOD)

The Democrats meanwhile, shut off the lights and pulled the plug on the TV feed on the way out. They say they are still in charge and will go to court if necessary.

The comunists gave up power easier then the Democrats will.

Posted by: flenser at June 08, 2009 05:13 PM (LF29c)

22 Goddess of the classroom, since when is H a vowel sound?

Like stated above, it is a cue to aspirate, or breathe, into the vowel. Try to find the "H" consonant sound in a diphthong, like TH or SH - it just lets you know to breathe after the "S" and "T."

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 08, 2009 05:16 PM (AlKlj)

23 As a ex-Yorker who emigrated South a long time ago, I wish them all the best. I ain't holding my breath though.

Posted by: Nico at June 08, 2009 05:17 PM (F6Jj4)

24 So if I go Greek in the actic I will have breathy H's, like hey, hey thop that it hurts.

Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2009 05:18 PM (qfb86)

25 charlie rangel pre emptively played the race card on Andy Cuomo last week claiming since most Dems in NY are of color, which I dont believe BTW, maybe most people of color in NYC are Dems, but not most Dems in NYC are of color, its like that TOTUS biggest Muslim country reasoning...syllogisitc to the max..

anywho, Charlie said if Cuomo runs against Paterson it would inflame race issues in the DEM primary..unreal..

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at June 08, 2009 05:20 PM (Ger2w)

26 17 Dan
You correctly list the vowels in English, but the key is "sound."

For example. the word "united" begins with a vowel, but it is sounded as a Y; one would say, "Let's show a united front."

The H of "historic" is only slightly aspirated, followed by an unstressed short "i" sound.

The pronunciation of articles is one of the very few times in English that euphony is the determiner.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2009 05:20 PM (31uhq)

Palin in NY - NY does this. I see a trend here. Yoo hoo Mr. Steele ?????????...... Wake the fuck up.

Posted by: paranoid polly at June 08, 2009 05:26 PM (YLNjm)

28 here is Rangels anti Cuomo , race card rant

You cannot support the governor, prepare for reelection and at the same time say that you're keeping your options open for a primary," Rangel said.

Cuomo has repeatedly said he expects to run for reelection, but has noted that next year is a long way off.

Should Cuomo run, Rangel said, it would create a divide that could be "devastating" to New York Democrats.

"I think that there might be an inclination for racial polarization in a primary in the state of New York," Rangel said.

"Since we have most African-Americans registered as Democrats, and since you would be making an appeal for Democrats, it would be devastating in my opinion."

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at June 08, 2009 05:26 PM (Ger2w)

You morons are so naive. These guys were drummed out of the Democrat party because of their current scandals. They can no longer be in the party of ethics and transparency. They had to switch to the Culture of Corruption because their malfeasance would not be tolerated in the pure and lofty party of the people, and when the media starts reporting on their crimes, you better believe there will be a big scarlet R after their names! I also have a bridge I'd like to sell you for a pittance.

Posted by: runningrn at June 08, 2009 05:27 PM (aC/SY)

30 The "formal" rule is:
- when an h-word is stressed on the first syllable ("hat", "heritage"), "a" has to be used over "an"
- when an h-word is not stressed on the first syllable ("historic", "heroic", "horrendous"), then either "a" or "an" can both be used

This is why "an historic..." is acceptable but "an hat" is not.

But you're right, it does sound rather pompous to use "an" before an h-

Posted by: Mr.English at June 08, 2009 05:27 PM (j/wD+)

31 Thank you Goddess, I have just been "schooled". I regret that I didn't learn to diagram sentences. I like to understanding how things work and understand concepts. Recentl I taught myself to solve a Rubics Cube. No real value, except as a mental exercise, but it bugged me that it could beat me. Next I plan to revisit Calculus.

Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2009 05:28 PM (qfb86)

claiming since most Dems in NY are of color, which I dont believe BTW

NYC is a minority white city. You should believe that most Dems in the city are "of color".

While we're discussing English, perhaps we can remind people that white is a color.

Posted by: flenser at June 08, 2009 05:30 PM (LF29c)

33 Wow, Mr. English and Goddess are you guys English teachers? I wanted to be an English or an history major in college, but sadly, my dad said no. I believe his exact words were "You've got to be able to get a job!" Sigh!

Posted by: runningrn at June 08, 2009 05:30 PM (aC/SY)

34 I dunno. I've always found the 'an historic' formulation faintly ridiculous, and the justifications even more so.

http://www.theslot.com/a-an.html

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2009 05:33 PM (ByHOD)

Dodd can do this, too. All he has to do is switch parties and it's the Republicans and that Culture of Corruption all over again!

Posted by: FireHorse at June 08, 2009 05:33 PM (jMk+v)

36 Cool, I guess Charles at LGF is readying up his "GOP is Infested with Wife-Beaters" post

Posted by: Mr. Scurvy at June 08, 2009 05:34 PM (FKKXQ)

37 Either way the Democrats are about as fucked as you can be in a state like NY.

I love this place.

Posted by: Brenden at June 08, 2009 05:35 PM (54lqZ)

38 Kee-rist. Hard to get excited about this when these two fuck-ups decide they want to switch parties.

Posted by: tmi3rd at June 08, 2009 05:37 PM (MLaAD)

39 31. Dan
You're very welcome. It's always a pleasure to explain things to a willing listener.

33. runningrn
Yes, I'm an English teacher.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2009 05:37 PM (31uhq)

40 34. waterhouse

I think it depends upon a person's regional accent; to me, with a mid-Atlantic/Southern accent, "a historic" sounds grating; "an historic" sounds better.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2009 05:41 PM (31uhq)

41 #40 - I think it depends upon a person's regional accent;

OK, that makes sense; I can see how accents could change the sound.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2009 05:47 PM (ByHOD)

42 I'm looking forward to Rudy running for Governor next year. He might announce soon to capitalize on the chaos or he may wait.

Likewise, Rudy may turn turn into a rainbow colored pony. Or he may not.
He may go to the bathroom sometime this evening. Or he may wait.

Its this sort of insightful analysis that makes AoSHQ such a smart military blog.

Posted by: oLD gUY at June 08, 2009 05:48 PM (n1yDn)

43 So, as soon as the Democrats change sides to Republicans, their dirty laundry only then comes out.
How convenient.

Posted by: ghost707 at June 08, 2009 05:58 PM (ixv8I)

44 Hey goddess.

Posted by: easy at June 08, 2009 05:59 PM (/IQA9)

45 NY state is fucked. It crossed the event horizon about 10 years ago. Now all there is left is to get sucked into the black hole.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 08, 2009 06:01 PM (M/0kd)

"He may go to the bathroom sometime this evening. Or he may wait."

Ten to one says he goes this evening.

Posted by: easy at June 08, 2009 06:01 PM (/IQA9)

47 "They say they are still in charge and will go to court if necessary."

Go to court to do what? There is NOTHING that could be more of a non-justiciable political question than the vote of a legislative chamber on its own organizing resolution: it goes to the core of the legislature's authority to govern its own business.

Legislators who who would ask a judge to interfere in something like this should not be legislators because they have asked to be powerless in their constitutional sphere: they have asked to be enslaved by the courts.

Posted by: Dave J. at June 08, 2009 06:04 PM (jNE9Q)

goddessoftheclassroom, you are doing a wonderful thing! I was so blessed to have some really great English teachers over the years who instilled a love for sentence structure, vocabulary, literature and creative writing. Mr. Evans, Mrs. Hutchinson, and Mr. Hamlin were the best of the best. To this day, I am still a huge sucker for a good wordsmith--and thus a fan of Ace.

Posted by: runningrn at June 08, 2009 06:04 PM (aC/SY)

49 Hi gays. I married a-er-an woman-er- am I getting myself in deeper?.She has /had a Masters Degree at the time of marriage.. My advice is not to go there. If she says that a particular thing of the American English is gospel.. So Be IT. A smart man knows when to shut up!

Posted by: Mystry at June 08, 2009 06:13 PM (dIHlE)

50 NY state is fucked. It crossed the event horizon about 10 years ago. Now all there is left is to get sucked into the black hole.

Parts of it are gorgeous, but it's all fucked up. I can't wait to get the hell back to Wisconsin.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2009 06:21 PM (YzDEL)

51 videos of all the fun on the floor of the NYS Senate here

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at June 08, 2009 06:31 PM (Ger2w)

52 In New York Rudy can run as the guy who cleaned up NYC and made it semi-functional. After the latest blast of Democratic control of the governorship, that may appeal to voters in the Empire State.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at June 08, 2009 06:32 PM (TUWci)

53 50 heatherradish, we left NYC for AZ 15 years ago, love AZ love Sheriff Joe :0)
.

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at June 08, 2009 06:32 PM (Ger2w)

54 52 my mom will go for it in a heartbeat
if Rangel race cards Cuomo out of the primary, Rudy will easily win IMO....

On US Senate side, Sharpton and Rangel and CBC oh my endorsed Gillibrand, and Carolyn McCarthy the gun control DEM has bowed out, Weiner buckled under TOTUS Rahmbo pressure too, that leaves only Carolyn Maloney facing her in the DEM primary I think

Would Rudy run for NY Senate?

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at June 08, 2009 06:35 PM (Ger2w)

55 33. as an unemployed History major this is probably the only admnistration in which I could conceivably end up with more wealth than Haaavard educated MBAs eh?

and just think I will have plenty to write about what with the destruction of all that has gone before donchaknow...

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at June 08, 2009 06:38 PM (Ger2w)

56 Are you wearing a dipthong right now, goddessoftheclassroom?

Posted by: heavy aspirator at June 08, 2009 06:56 PM (MB+jN)

57 NY Dems. vs. NY Repubs. is like choosing between taking it in the ass vs. mouth.

Posted by: schneedoo at June 08, 2009 07:48 PM (KNCWm)

58 Andrew Cuomo can't be considered a viable candidate, inasmuch as there's been no extra-marital affair alleged to him yet.

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Posted by: Hucbald at June 08, 2009 09:02 PM (O9yAg)

61 Umm, they are caucusing with the R's, not becoming R's, if I'm reading this right.

So, they are still corrupt D's, but at least they are (somewhat) on "our side" regarding issues.

---------

"He might announce soon to capitalize on the chaos or he may wait."

Way to take a difficult stand Drew. Yes, I suspect you are right; he will wait or he won't ;-)

Posted by: mockmook at June 08, 2009 09:27 PM (SlOg/)

62 Pedro Espada Jr and Hiram Monserrate must really be proud of themselves. I know I am not.

Posted by: Jeff Levine at June 08, 2009 09:31 PM (7SyT4)

Hey, the bastards make $92,000 a year as a state senator. NC pays $16,000.

What a fucking sink hole. Remember, NY was the only state not to vote for independence in 1776. Scumbags then, scumbags now.

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Why, yes, "historic" does begin with a vowel sound, so "an" is the correct indefinite article."

BAM! as Emeril would say. You beat me to it. I only have a master's degree - in music! - and I knew that. I also know how to use vis-a-vis properly. LOL!

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IN New Yawk, Historic begins with "...Freakin..." and the indefiniter article may be dropped as in "This heyuh is a 'freakin historic' type event, what we gots goin on over heyuh, bet yer ass..." and that is how it is done in NYC. Dammit.

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