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| No Friends of Angelo: CountryWide's Mozillo Indicted by SEC for FraudThe Securities and Exchange Commission on Thursday said it had filed fraud charges against former Countrywide Chief Executive Angelo Mozilo and two others. The charges may involve Mozilo's sale of shares of giant mortgage lender Countrywide. ... Mozilo became a poster boy for the subprime crisis. He reportedly stood to collect a windfall of $115 million in the $4 billion sale to Bank of America. But after facing heavy criticism from lawmakers, Mozilo said he would forfeit $37.5 million in payments tied to the deal. Comments1
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Posted by: kbdabear at June 04, 2009 03:15 PM (93F13) 2
The dominoes are starting to fall.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:15 PM (zplc6) 3
Never really met the guy. I think he pulled into my driveway a couple times to turn around
Posted by: Chris Dodd at June 04, 2009 03:17 PM (93F13) 4
I just don't see how such a huge friend of the Democrats can go down. How do they make him the sacrificial lamb without bringing themselves down as well? Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 04, 2009 03:17 PM (AJ4xq) 5
Gee, think he'll talk to the Feds about cutting a deal?
Posted by: XBradTC at June 04, 2009 03:17 PM (4PfCd) 6
It was Dick Cheney!
Posted by: red131 at June 04, 2009 03:19 PM (p9cod) 7
#F*ck no it wasn't! I know for a fact it was Richard Armittage.
Posted by: di butler at June 04, 2009 03:22 PM (tjdui) 8
Suck it, Angelo!
Posted by: CB at June 04, 2009 03:23 PM (9Wv2j) 9
Wondered why he was so quiet lately and he gave a press conference and no one came. Wonder if the "friends of Angelo list" will become public now?
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:23 PM (zplc6) 10
Angelo: Those were the great old days,you know... And we was like the Roman Empire... The Corleone family was like the Roman Empire...
Rahm: When a plot against the Emperor failed... the plotters were always given a chance... to let their families keep their fortunes. Right? Angelo: Yeah, but only the rich guys, Rahm. The little guys got knocked off and all their estates went to the Emperors. Unless they went home and killed themselves, then nothing happened. And the families... the families were taken care of. Rahm: That was a good break. A nice deal. Angelo: Yeah... They went home... and sat in a hot bath... opened up their veins... and bled to death... and sometimes they had a little party before they did it. Posted by: Rahm the Consigliere Hagen at June 04, 2009 03:24 PM (93F13) 11
Mozillo had his head so far up Dodd's ass, that when Dodd flosses in the morning, he sees Angelo's face. In honor of his indictment, sing along with this video with me, shouting the word "MOZILLO" in the appropriate place (believe me, you'll know when): MOZILLO! Oh, it's pronouced "MO-ZEEE-OH"? Nevermind. Posted by: Sharkman at June 04, 2009 03:25 PM (OcxlV) 12
Fundicted perhaps?
Posted by: lorien1973 at June 04, 2009 03:27 PM (IhQuA) 13
Maxine, maxine, what's going on?
Posted by: Bawney Fer ank at June 04, 2009 03:27 PM (zplc6) 14
Mozilla vs Doddthra.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2009 03:28 PM (m2CN7) 15
Was this guy actually indicted, as in criminally charged, or did the SEC bring a civil/regulatory suit?
It is unclear to me from the article. Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 03:31 PM (Xm1aB) 16
"Posted by guest, Jun 04, 2009 4:24PM What happened to the SEC's new mission to establish credibility? I can only guess that Lewis sold him out when Paulson did a Joe Pesci and put his head in a vice during the ML negotiations."http://tinyurl.com/r5bjzs Posted by: Bawney Fer ank at June 04, 2009 03:32 PM (zplc6) 17
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I just don't see how such a huge friend of the Democrats can go down. How do they make him the sacrificial lamb without bringing themselves down as well? Posted by: Rahm the Consigliere Hagen at June 04, 2009 03:32 PM (93F13) 18
"SEC Charges Former Countrywide Executives With Fraud
Former CEO Angelo Mozilo Additionally Charged With Insider Trading
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2009-129" http://tinyurl.com/q5z8or Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:34 PM (zplc6) Posted by: Iblis at June 04, 2009 03:35 PM (9221z) Posted by: Sharkman at June 04, 2009 03:35 PM (OcxlV) 21
Just a guy from Dodd's neighborhood I s'pose.
Posted by: pendejo grande at June 04, 2009 03:37 PM (gudTT) 22
Who asked for the court papers?: http://tinyurl.com/ozg3uh
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:37 PM (zplc6) 23
I did a re-fi just to drop countrywide(and save a few) just in time as they were takin over by BOA another dispicable operation. To think I was paying for Angelo's spray tan and toof-caps...gives me the creeps.
Posted by: dananjcon at June 04, 2009 03:38 PM (1B81L) 24
With any degree of certainty, Obambi and the rest of the Liberal Mafia will speak softly to the SEC, and thence the indictment will be downgraded to simple theft and subsequently dismissed for lack of evidence. It's the liberal way of doin' bidness.
Posted by: Fish at June 04, 2009 03:39 PM (FnA4R) 25
Was this guy actually indicted, as in criminally charged, or did the SEC bring a civil/regulatory suit?
It is unclear to me from the article.
Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 03:31 PM (Xm1aB) Wouldn't "fraud charges" indicate criminal? Posted by: CB at June 04, 2009 03:39 PM (9Wv2j) 26
Note to prosecution team: Go Deep. No Deeper. Keep Going. Dig You Bastards Dig!!!! DIG DEEPER!!!! There's got to be a pony buried at the bottom of that much horsehit. Posted by: pendejo grande at June 04, 2009 03:40 PM (gudTT) 27
the SEC isn't the DOJ-there can be civil and regulatory fraud. we are relying on a reporter who, while on the legal beat, probably isn't all that smart. more information is needed
Posted by: ed at June 04, 2009 03:41 PM (Urhve) 28
$5 (Canadian) says that forfeited $37.5 million gets counted towards a "departmental cost-cutting/stimulus package" number that'll be reported favorably in the press.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 04, 2009 03:41 PM (ruzrP) 29
Do they have tanning beds in federal prison?
Posted by: mikeyslaw at June 04, 2009 03:42 PM (QMGr1) 30
#25
I think muffy is trying to help, but I can't access the link she's providing. "Charge" indicates a criminal case, but the article doesn't mention indictment, U.S. Attorney, possible prison time, etc. And like everyone else I don't trust the MSM to get it right. "Fraud" can be charged criminally or through a civil suit. I believe the SEC can bring an enforcement action for fraud which is civil in nature and it's not unusual for the U.S. Attorney to obtain an indictment involving the same facts, but the damn article doesn't make it clear. At least to me. Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 03:43 PM (Xm1aB) 31
#24 tru-dat...now the real lube job on the public begins. its like being raped by a stranger your husaband hired.
Posted by: dananjcon at June 04, 2009 03:43 PM (1B81L) 32
Don't wory. I'm sure he will awheeeeeal! Posted by: reason at June 04, 2009 03:44 PM (XiVKO) 33
Dave, go to the SEC, click on latest press releases, the article is there, scroll down and you can access the court papers in their entirety, what a read.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:44 PM (zplc6) 34
If only Dodd got sucked up in this. It'd be awesome. Actually, it'd be awesome stacked up on top of awesome. With more awesome poured over it. Or awesome to the bazillionth power. Until then, I guess we'll just settle for guilt by association. What I'd really like to see is the CRA repealed. I don't know how we can ever get out of the shitstorm we're in until that POS legislation is gone, along with every congresscritter who likes it. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 04, 2009 03:45 PM (ZGhSv) 35
So, guess Senator Dodd will retire?
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:46 PM (zplc6) 36
Ace, Don't you mean fundicted? I'm sure Angelo is pleased to be looking at a few years in a federal prison. Three square meals a day and a totally awesome ass-fraping every night. Used to be folks dreaded going to prison but in the age of Skittle shitting unicorns and funemployment not even forced sodomy seems all that bad. Congratulations Angelo you really earned it. Posted by: Big E at June 04, 2009 03:47 PM (CBGRs) 37
If only Dodd got sucked up in this. It'd be awesome.
Dodd, Frank, Waters, Pelosi? Really awesome. Angelo will take one for the team though, and be out in 2 years. Posted by: mike at June 04, 2009 03:47 PM (9dSAJ) Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 03:49 PM (Xm1aB) 39
Was just thinking today that all this crap was going on and they indicted Marta Stewart and sent her to prison. Fortunately, she came out whole, much to probably everyone chagrin and shock.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:49 PM (zplc6) Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 03:50 PM (Xm1aB) 41
O/T but reported by the British press who aren't too busy telling us how much Obama's Egypt speech gives them the thrill up the leg.
An Air France pilot has suggested that a bomb could have been the cause of the crash which led to a plane go missing over the Atlantic this week. However most experts have dismissed the suggestion. Posted by: kbdabear at June 04, 2009 03:52 PM (93F13) 42
I think the SEC usually brings a civil suit and then it gets picked up from there.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 03:53 PM (zplc6) 43
muffy
Agreed. If the DOJ doesn't pick this up, then you can be sure Dodd and Obama are protecting their friend. Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 03:54 PM (Xm1aB) 44
He'll get fined a few thousand dollars, and then off to his next fraud scheme involving the same Democrats.
Posted by: ghost707 at June 04, 2009 03:58 PM (ixv8I) 45
O/T again, but certainly worthy of the Blago-Skull ® tm
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How do they make him the sacrificial lamb without bringing themselves down as well? Now do you know why mint jelly is the official condiment of the Democats? Posted by: Senora Caballo del Fuego at June 04, 2009 03:59 PM (jMk+v) 47
"Sing choirs of Angelo, Sing of exploitation, Sing all ye employees of Country Wide"--my new favorite Christmas Carol. Of course if Dodd were a Pubbie, he would have already been gone. I don't think he'll see a scratch, but a girl can dream... Posted by: runningrn at June 04, 2009 03:59 PM (aC/SY) 48
She was conplaining last week that she is underfunded and has fewer workers than all the other agencies. Hope that is a sign that she views this as the tip of the iceburg.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:00 PM (zplc6) 49
BTW, do you think any of those friends of Angelo will be sticking their political necks out for him? Yeah, me neither. Thank God the Democrat party owns the media. This will quietly go away, kind of like Tony Rezko--remember him?
Posted by: runningrn at June 04, 2009 04:01 PM (aC/SY) 50
wow, Ace beat drudge on this one.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:02 PM (zplc6) 51
Actually the protection may already be happening.
Dodd and Obama have to let the SEC extract whatever fines and restitution it can through the civil proceedings to satisfy the public outrage, but hold DOJ off. Sucker stays free and rich, and the public thinks he got what was comin'. Posted by: Dave at June 04, 2009 04:02 PM (Xm1aB) 52
Note that this is SEC and not the DOJ. Watch what happens here. Posted by: Vic at June 04, 2009 04:06 PM (BYokb) Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at June 04, 2009 04:08 PM (kIjlp) 54
What if the internet grabbed hold of this one and refused to let go? Calling for tea party like protests?
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:08 PM (zplc6) 55
Look none of this matters.
The only thing of importance is that BURN NOTICE restarts tonight. USA Network 9PM/eastern Here's the HULU link with a couple great 'ask a spy' vids: WOOT!
Posted by: momma at June 04, 2009 04:09 PM (penCf) 56
congratulations Ace you scooped a lot of folks.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:09 PM (zplc6) 57
So has Chris Dodd 'found' those mortgage papers yet? You know, the one's he was going to 'show' everyone? Just like John Fucking Kerry was going to 'show all of his military records'?
Posted by: GarandFan at June 04, 2009 04:13 PM (C3okI) 58
I hate to disappoint you guys but the Chris Dodd thing has nothing to do with this. They are claiming that Countrywide knew that certain loans were not performing and didn't let investors now - that they were concealing information to mislead investors and make the company look better than it was. Nothing to do with Dodd. Posted by: susanita at June 04, 2009 04:16 PM (O7Waf) 59
No problem here. Just leave a pile of cash on the back porch of your local Obamacrat outlet, plant a couple ACORNs in your office, commit to preordering a couple green GuberMint Cars and you should be good to go back to the regular day job, with a raise...
Optionally, you might ask Timmy to find you a slot in Obama's Treasury Department. Posted by: drfredc at June 04, 2009 04:17 PM (ljMiA) 60
Culture of Corruption?
That's a handy name for all these Democrats caught in ethical scandals, no? Do you think the MSM will get on the ball and come up with such a name? Me neither. Fuckers. Posted by: Nom de Blog at June 04, 2009 04:19 PM (1Bods) 61
susanita, they are just kiddin around. For a while there when you heard angelo they were mentioning chris in the same breathe. Probably people are just glad to see something, anything relating to this subprine deacle come to the fore.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:21 PM (zplc6) 62
I hate to disappoint you guys but the Chris Dodd thing has nothing to do with this. No, not with this. But Senator Dodd (D-Conn.) got an "AF" mortgage from Countrywide. These "AF" mortgages, so called by the letters they put on certain mortgage application forms, carried the best rates for the borrower. Really, really low rates; unrealistically low. "AF" stands for Angelo's Friend, by the way. A senator from any other party would be indicted on charges of corruption for allowing this. A Republican would have his reputation irreparably smeared just for knowing the guy. Posted by: FireHorse at June 04, 2009 04:25 PM (jMk+v) 63
A senator from any other party would be indicted on charges of corruption for allowing this
Isn’t that exactly what the Senator from AK was indicted for. Posted by: Vic at June 04, 2009 04:27 PM (BYokb) 64
Since there is no one on the funemployment thread, I'll post this here: Is your state's unemployment system in danger?
This is the 'Chris Dodd's promise clock'. You have to scroll half way down the page. Entire page is 'promise clocks' which calculate the time from when a Congreeman promises something to when they actually fulfill their promise (Burris, Obama, etc.).
Posted by: momma at June 04, 2009 04:28 PM (penCf) 65
Isn’t that exactly what the Senator from AK was indicted for.
Exactly.
Senator Dodd, but former Senator Stevens. Hmm. Posted by: FireHorse at June 04, 2009 04:30 PM (jMk+v) 66
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Isn’t that exactly what the Senator from AK was indicted for.
Exactly.
Senator Dodd, but former Senator Stevens. Hmm. Posted by: FireHorse at June 04, 2009 04:30 PM (jMk+v)" Wasn't the guy exonerated? But the seat grab had already taken place. Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:34 PM (zplc6) 67
Wasn't the guy exonerated? But the seat grab had already taken place.
He wasn’t exactly exonerated. He was excused due to prosecutorial misconduct. Posted by: Vic at June 04, 2009 04:38 PM (BYokb) 68
Firehorse, It was "foa" Friend of Angelo. I worked there, I know all about it. But I am just sayin. dont get too excited, thats all. Muffy, I understand. I am very interested in how it turns out. If Countrywide's saying that their underwriting kept their risk down is considered a lie now, the whole mortgage industry was lying. it is going to get interesting. Posted by: susanita at June 04, 2009 04:39 PM (IzUmo) 69
susanita, did you read the court papers on the SEC website. It is going to get very very very interesting. Almost want to call up the SEC and just volunteer.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:42 PM (zplc6) 70
Thanks Vic, it's nice to know someone knows something about just about everything. I really admire your knowledge and willingness to share it.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:43 PM (zplc6) 71
wow, Ace even beat Dealbreaker on this story.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 04:48 PM (zplc6) 72
By the way, this post made my day. Wishful thinking says this turd will divulge how close he and the distinguished gentleman and senator from the fair state of Connecticut really were. Then, just as the heat starts to get too close to Dodd, he approaches one of his accomplices for protection; but his would-be protector, now the president, offers nothing. When it's all done, the punishment for Dodd involves rotten vegetables. Again, wishful thinking. Posted by: FireHorse at June 04, 2009 04:50 PM (jMk+v) 73
I saw the thing from the SEC. It said they had internal memos about loan perfomance in 2005. That is crazy. Being a former shareholder and employee I am a pretty shocked by the whole thing. But Countrywide could not have been the only company that knew this was coming. Wow.
Posted by: susanita at June 04, 2009 04:52 PM (IzUmo) Posted by: susanita at June 04, 2009 04:54 PM (IzUmo) 75
Mozilo became a poster boy for the subprime crisis. He reportedly stood to collect a windfall of $115 million in the $4 billion sale to Bank of America. But after facing heavy criticism from lawmakers, Mozilo said he would forfeit $37.5 million in payments tied to the deal.
So now he only gets $77.5 million? At what level does fraud constitute a 'windfall'? Posted by: Tim at June 04, 2009 05:07 PM (3Wewy) 76
Being a former shareholder and employee I am a pretty shocked by the whole thing. But Countrywide could not have been the only company that knew this was coming. American Home Mortgage was my portfolio's poison in early '07. When the CEO said something about how he never comments on rumors, I knew it was time to cut my losses. He knew for months, maybe years, what was happening, all the while denying that anything was amiss, right up until about two days before AHM essentially disappeared. I hope you're doing all right now, Susanita. Posted by: FireHorse at June 04, 2009 05:23 PM (jMk+v) 77
It was "foa" Friend of Angelo. That's it! *ding* I remember watching CNBC, yelling at the TV, how it was one letter shy. Posted by: FireHorse at June 04, 2009 05:29 PM (jMk+v) 78
I'm fine, thanks for asking. I am still in the biz, and it is really sad to talk to people everyday who are struggling.
Posted by: susanita at June 04, 2009 05:42 PM (IzUmo) 79
Now, if we could just find a candidate in CT. Looks like Dodd is taking after his crooked father, you remember the one the Senate censured back in the 70's. Kemp Posted by: kempermanx at June 04, 2009 05:55 PM (2+9Yx) 80
Charlie Gasparino is on Kudlow throwing cold water on this. He asid it is a civil case, which we knew, and that it will be settled out of court. He said the water mark for insider trading is lower for a civil case than a criminal one so they may not have enough evidence for that. Both kudlow and Gasparino have said this upsets them they know the guy but they have to discuss it. Gasparino has said that the phrase "irrational exuberance" will come up as well as "the disclosure issue". Interesting since he has been on leave to write a book and they bought him back to discuss this with kudlow. so, to recap, Charlie, who is generally right, basically said there will be a slap on the wrist and a fine.
Posted by: muffy at June 04, 2009 06:16 PM (zplc6) 81
#36, Angelo is facing CIVIL charges, NOT criminal charges, he'll never see a day in prison. He might become a little poorer, though. Kemp Posted by: kempermanx at June 04, 2009 06:38 PM (2+9Yx) 82
Dodd is a walrus but the voters in Connecticut are ignorant and will re-elect this hypocrite.
Posted by: Winston at June 04, 2009 07:53 PM (bDjNy) 83
I must go Gird my Loins.
Posted by: Joe Fucking Biden at June 04, 2009 08:25 PM (czm9r) 84
President Embalmer and the slobbering media will polish this wet turd.....
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