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| Obama: You Know America Is Kind Of One Of The World's Largest Muslim NationsNo, no, a thousand times NO. Now, the flip side is I think that the United States and the West generally, we have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam. And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. And so there's got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.As Michael Goldfarb points out at the link, Obama is wrong on the math. Obama is also wrong if he thinks there's any significant similarities between the Muslim world and the United States. The cultural, legal and political values this country was founded on have nothing to do with Islam,. To say or even intimate otherwise is quite simply a lie or reveals a lack of historical understanding. America's proud traditions of religious tolerance and freedom allows Muslims to worship in this country as they please. Alas, that is not always a courtesy that is always or even often reciprocated. Perhaps that's something Mr. Obama should be focusing on in his talk in Cairo tomorrow. That kind of honesty between the US and Muslim nations might be helpful. Each side should be forthright about what it values most. Cheap attempts to curry favor based on nothing but convenient untruths and personal narratives won't serve either side well in the long run. In related news... bin Laden (or the an actor playing bin Laden) welcomes Obama to the Mideast. Obama insists that members of the Egyptian Parliament representing the Muslim Brotherhood be at his speech. The Brotherhood has direct links with Sunni groups like Hamas in the Palestinian territories. Its standing in Egypt has suffered as of late because of a crackdown by the Egyptian government and a growing frustration that it is too conservative (anti-women's rights, the whole gamut) for a modern Middle East. Still, it's the largest Sunni opposition party in the world, and it's clear that the Obama administration wants to engage the Sunnis -- even the less moderate Sunnis -- in his "Mutual Respect" tour.And the Israeli Foreign Minister says they aren't going to attack Iran. The comments marked a softening of signals from Netanyahu's hardline government - particularly coming from Lieberman, one its leading hawks. "We do not intend to bomb Iran, and nobody will solve their problems with our hands," Lieberman told reporters. "We don't need that. Israel is a strong country, we can protect ourselves. "But the world should understand that the Iran's entrance into the nuclear club would prompt a whole arms race, a crazy race of unconventional weaponry across the Mideast that is a threat to the entire world order, a challenge to the whole international community," he said, in Russian. "So we do not want a global problem to be solved with our hands."I really hope that's a bit of misinformation designed to pressure the US and the rest of the world to do something and not something Israel actually means. The world, including the US has made it pretty clear they have accepted the idea of Iran becoming a nuclear power. If Israel doesn't do something, no one is going to. Comments1
The gays will not like Obama calling America the largest Muslim country. They hang gay men in Muslim countries.
Posted by: izoneguy at June 03, 2009 10:05 AM (hpOMe) Posted by: rancho at June 03, 2009 10:05 AM (NegFp) 3
"reveals a lack of historical understanding"
A lack of historical understanding from Mr. "57 states"? No, it can't be! Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 03, 2009 10:05 AM (PWLfW) 4
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The gays will not like Obama calling America the largest Muslim country. They hang gay men in Muslim countries.
They hang them if they're lucky. If they're unlucky, they get a different treatment that lasts longer and hurts much more. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 03, 2009 10:06 AM (PWLfW) 5
If we don't take back Congress in the mid-terms, this jug-eared fool is going to commit to sharia to try to win over the Muslims before it's all done.
Posted by: nickless at June 03, 2009 10:06 AM (MMC8r) 6
Did you know that, outside of Canada, there are more Canadians in the US of A than any other country? First hockey. Then poutine!
Posted by: ducktrapper at June 03, 2009 10:07 AM (6kZI3) 7
The nicest most tolerant liberal guy on earth embraces intolerant religious bigots that routinely kill their own family members and have a real affinity for beheading folks.
Have we come full circle yet? Posted by: The Haimster at June 03, 2009 10:09 AM (Wcyfd) 8
Obama is also wrong if he thinks there's any significant similarities between the Muslim world and the United States.
Dude, he's only been President since late January. Give the man some time. Posted by: tachyonshuggy at June 03, 2009 10:09 AM (TXp3z) 9
A lack of historical understanding from Mr. "57 states"? No, it can't be! Aren't there 57 Muslim states? If so, he understands perfectly. Posted by: 3rd_Bird at June 03, 2009 10:09 AM (jYBcm) 10
How long until prayer rug spams replace the lace wig ones? Posted by: Buck Ofama at June 03, 2009 10:09 AM (eu7/X) 11
the US is the biggest Irish Nation
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 03, 2009 10:10 AM (XUmfN) 12
Zero needs to man up and go on national TV and declare the US a Moslim country. Go ahead, Barry, I'm sure the wookie will loan you her balls for that amount of time.
Posted by: maddogg at June 03, 2009 10:10 AM (OlN4e) 13
Why is it that that jugeared asshole can never seem to say shit like this to US THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? Why the hell is that? Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at June 03, 2009 10:12 AM (rlSr9) 14
A liberal will scream if you call this a Christian nation, but when Obama calls it a Muslim nation - he is 100% correct.
Posted by: Blogluddite at June 03, 2009 10:12 AM (fDWFP) 15
And if Bush had said the U.S. to be the world's largest Christian country?
Posted by: Diffus at June 03, 2009 10:14 AM (bnGDI) 16
Gee, wouldn't THIS be a nice clip to see on the news?
Ah, well, maybe in some alternate universe... Posted by: nickless at June 03, 2009 10:14 AM (MMC8r) 17
Personally I think he is a Muslim. On Fox they were saying that the Muslim World was giving him a “pass” on this issue because it is supposed to be “death” if a Muslim converts to another religion. Well, they are NOT giving him a pass. They are applying the rule in the Koran that allows Muslims to lie in order to advance their faith. He is a Muslim and he is lying when he says he isn’t. Posted by: Vic at June 03, 2009 10:15 AM (BYokb) 18
Coming in at #38 or lower on this week's Islam Top 40, the United States of America!
Posted by: Casey Kasem at June 03, 2009 10:15 AM (sOxtB) 19
the US is the biggest Irish Nation Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 03, 2009 10:10 AM (XUmfN)
Damn right it is. Sláinte!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 03, 2009 10:15 AM (1Jaio) 20
I'm sure Barack is using those silly CAIR/Newsweek number for the Muslim population of the US. But, from the link (wiki) in the link (Goldfarb):
The 2007 Pew survey of Muslim Americans finds two-thirds of the Muslim Americans are foreign-born. Among the foreign-born, most have immigrated since 1990. Yikes, who left the door open. Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2009 10:17 AM (L64A6) Posted by: krukke1 at June 03, 2009 10:17 AM (GMn5O) Posted by: Mrs. Charles Johnson at June 03, 2009 10:21 AM (jx3S+) 23
And so there's got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.
So is the idea here that muslims can't be americans or that they are muslims first? Posted by: lorien1973 at June 03, 2009 10:22 AM (IhQuA) 24
I have never in my life been ashamed to be American. Seriously. This guy has done it. He is beneath contempt.
Posted by: the real joe at June 03, 2009 10:23 AM (4YKVo) 25
We are a big nation, with Muslims. So I guess that means Alaska is one of the world's largest Muslim states. I wonder if the Ayatollah Palin realizes that.
Posted by: Roy at June 03, 2009 10:23 AM (cB77O) 26
This just gets worse by the day. I have dreams, not nightmares (anymore), of President Hillary Clinton. They're not wet ones, either.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at June 03, 2009 10:24 AM (YmPwQ) 27
Can we officially refer to Obama as "shitbag" yet?
Posted by: tangonine at June 03, 2009 10:24 AM (C8Pcc) Posted by: apotheosis at June 03, 2009 10:25 AM (xWk3U) 29
If odumbass told Congress and the Senate that he wanted to be leader forever, they would bend over backwards selling out this Country, good times.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 10:25 AM (Bu/hr) 30
Next up, Obama suggests changing the blue field in the US flag to green and making 49 of the stars into a crescent shape.
Posted by: Happy Fun Ball at June 03, 2009 10:25 AM (fDGAU) 31
Ok tired of lurking, but please explain something to me folks. HTF do you all expect Israel to hit Iran, and actually do enough damage to their nuke infrastructure, to make a difference? They can hit a single point very hard, but not much more then that. Is that going to be enough to knock Iran off stride for a few years? Doubt it. They and the Russians laid out their nuke plants and processing with the express intent of making them hard to knock out. You all do realize that even if Israel did try this, they would have to sneak it past our defenses in the region as well right? Who here thinks the Obama admin will not tip off Iran, that an attack is incoming? They will so they distance themselves from it, and hopefully blow the element of surprise, making the attack a disasterous failure. So Israel is not going to do this. The bluff has been called. The russians and Iranians know full well that the only thing they really had to worry about was American B2's/B52's after a couple weeks of getting thier new aa missles blown up by F-22's. Bush should have done this before he left office. I hope he has an answer for this, because he will be asked about it later.
Posted by: Jimbo at June 03, 2009 10:25 AM (73eJg) 32
"reveals a lack of historical understanding"
His historical understanding begins and ends with the "bash western civ/let's have a minority pity party" school of thought taught in most schools. Everything he says still sounds like a pandering campaign speech. Even in other countries. Posted by: brak at June 03, 2009 10:27 AM (rTJk2) 33
Bush should have done this before he left office. I hope he has an answer for this, because he will be asked about it later. Jimbo - Bush knew that the NYT would blow the cover on the operation right before the attack, and he wanted to protect our special forces from an ambush. Posted by: Roy at June 03, 2009 10:29 AM (cB77O) 34
obama is wrong wrong wrong.
Posted by: annak at June 03, 2009 10:29 AM (M4IOE) 35
Since we're now a Muslim nation, does that mean that instead of talking about things that make us mad, we can just start blowing shit up?!?! Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2009 10:30 AM (OcxlV) 36
lieberman is a russian. a chess player. he was also a bouncer without a mark on his face. he knows how to play belligerents with out a bust up...at the front door. what he does to you in the alley is another story. and how will israel defeat the iranian menace. you cut the head off of a snake and the rest will wriggle and die. Posted by: whatever at June 03, 2009 10:30 AM (KAotS) 37
C'mon jimbo..... Personally , I would have liked for Bush to have dealt with the Iranians but his political capital had been completely exhausted by our fights in Iraq and Afghanistan and the constant drumbeat of critism from the media and the left .
He did the best he could under those constraints , imho. Posted by: aubrey at June 03, 2009 10:32 AM (vJZ+j) 38
foot baths being installed at the white-ish house as i type.
Posted by: whatever at June 03, 2009 10:32 AM (KAotS) 39
OT Can someone please tell me what i am looking at? Learn about and participate in The Obama Time Capsule Project: So I switched to Bing. You're all a bunch of Who'res.
It received several 'holycrap's, yet I don't know why. Posted by: momma at June 03, 2009 10:33 AM (penCf) 40
"You Know America Is Kind Of One Of The World's Largest Muslim Nations"
0's trying to make it that way. Of course now that he's Prez, he can tell the truth about his religion. He finally admitted it, and ABC is running it. See Drudge. Heck of a good job, McCain. Posted by: HoundOfDoom at June 03, 2009 10:33 AM (MUloE) 41
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now it's time for something completely different:
the Pelosi! courtesy iowahawk See that side impact test? That's what my Tahoe would do to that Gubment Motors piece of shit. See all that glass flying out there? Bet you thought I was going to say that would be your brains. Except, if you bought one of those pieces of shit, you wouldn't have any. Iowahawk is a genius. Posted by: UncleFacts at June 03, 2009 10:35 AM (vZVv7) 42
Jimbo - Jericho option
From Haretz: http://tinyurl.com/pkoww7 Referenced CSIS Study: http://tinyurl.com/c6p25b or maybe use whatever UAV they using to hit HAMAS in Sudan? Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2009 10:38 AM (L64A6) 43
What better way for terrorists to attack the US than by putting one of them into the WH?
Gov't posts sensitive list of US nuclear sites Posted by: incognito at June 03, 2009 10:39 AM (qON3z) 44
He usually starts saying something preemptively. So I guess, when he opens up the borders and immigration, we just might become the largest nation with the largest muslim population.
Still wondering if he took the mrs. with him or if she stayed home. anyone know? Posted by: muffy at June 03, 2009 10:40 AM (zplc6) 45
Is hussein a racist for pointing out his muslim upbringing?
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 03, 2009 10:41 AM (Haq+B) 46
I really think it is time for all of us to bite the bullet, arrange a very large petition campaign, recall all polititians, and take the country back. It will not be difficult, but it will be tedious, and, I think we would have to organize and complete it quickly before the Democrat controlled government begins enacting laws to take over and control our lives.
Posted by: Disco Prime at June 03, 2009 10:42 AM (rYaSa) 47
And everyone thought Bush was a dolt.
Posted by: MES41067 at June 03, 2009 10:42 AM (VmAoa) 48
Still wondering if he took the mrs. with him or if she stayed home. anyone know?
Dunno, what's the religion of peace say about Wookies? Posted by: UncleFacts at June 03, 2009 10:42 AM (vZVv7) 49
So Bin Laden was right after all? He believed that an attack on America would make us retreat and skulk away letting the muslims do as they pleased. It took 8 years but that's what we've done.
It started with Bush not being upfront about fighting Islamism but, instead, constantly referring to Islam as a religion of peace and even inviting an Iman for services at the White House. The country then followed by, of all things, electing a Hussein the muslim as President! Out of all the possible candidates, liberal or conservative, we elected the him! My mind is still reeling! How, in order to show that we weren't biased against the religion of those who attacked us based on that religion, we've gone and bent over backwards and have ended up giving them special privleges. I'm ashamed and distressed. Posted by: jmchez at June 03, 2009 10:44 AM (rZFm0) Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 10:44 AM (Bu/hr) 51
Sorry aubrey #37 I aint buying it. Yes they did everything they could to shield Iran, they being the media and the Dem's. Worst thing was that politicized NIE report, that cut France , Germany , and the Brits off at the knees. But a couple months before the Election, he could easily have done it. And done enough damage to Iran, that 4 years would have bought us enough time. Looks to me like the whole last 6 months of Bush's term, was spent setting the Dem's up for a really big fall. I mean the whole planet is going to go to hell in a handbasket in the next 4 years. Bush could have given the bad guys one last parting shot, and reminded them of their mortality. But he didnt. Almost looks like ol Dick Cheney wanted to teach the world a lesson in " being careful what you wish for". Posted by: Jimbo at June 03, 2009 10:44 AM (73eJg) 52
I just put all my ski caps and scrarves on, and beat the shit out of Mrs. hutch for fronting somebody meth. I always insist on COD. Can I print out his speech, give it to the cops, and expect a pass? Posted by: hutch1200 at June 03, 2009 10:44 AM (DbwWP) Posted by: jmchez at June 03, 2009 10:45 AM (rZFm0) 54
Maybe he was just helping O practice the whole bowing/giving a hummer to assphucks thing. Posted by: momma at June 03, 2009 10:45 AM (penCf) 55
He is a Muslim and he is lying when he says he isn’t.
I've felt this way all along about him. Joining Rev Wright's church was just something he felt he needed to do to get ahead...as was marrying a nice dark-skinned woman who, what a coincidence, grew up in the home of Jesse Jackson, a civil rights leader. I think everything about him, every choice he has made, has been all about politics and getting ahead. Posted by: sydney jane at June 03, 2009 10:48 AM (T8h7U) 56
Just glued an old fur coat to my face. I look mooslim. face.....Help we've got some smart brain thinking lawyers here....Can I plead religous freedom??
Posted by: hutch1200 at June 03, 2009 10:49 AM (DbwWP) 57
Brian Williams bows to Obama.
Boy, I'm glad these 4 years are almost over, it's been unbearable. Wait. It's only been 4 months? Oh, shit. I'm never gonna make it. Posted by: DrewM. at June 03, 2009 10:49 AM (PLGGU) 58
I really think it is time for all of us to bite the bullet, arrange a very large petition campaign, recall all polititians, and take the country back
There is no “recall provision” in the Constitution. There is however, a redo provision if we can get 2/3 off the States to call for a new convention. As Glen Beck says, all it would have to do is progress forward until the congress started getting the idea that it “could” get enough States and they would start scrambling. Posted by: Vic at June 03, 2009 10:49 AM (BYokb) 59
Posted by: Jimbo at June 03, 2009 10:25 AM (73eJg)
Cruise missiles from the subs in the Persian Gulf and a fair sized Spec Op contingent on the ground. That's the only thing I can figure, since Iraqi airspace is controlled by the 58th Islamic State. Over Turkey? Possibly.... Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 03, 2009 10:52 AM (5aa4z) 60
I can't believe that we are leaning towards assholes that worship a fucking rock!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 10:55 AM (Bu/hr) 61
Brian Williams bows to Obama.
I believe it's customary to bow before your god-emperor. I surprised Williams didn't offer to blow him or maybe that was edited out. Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 03, 2009 10:56 AM (1Jaio) 62
What the hell is happening to my Country, everyone is turning into cowards, from the entertainment industry to the Gov. and noone is doing anything except eating cake and begging for more.........guns&ammo, guns&ammo, guns&ammo!!!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 10:59 AM (Bu/hr) 63
I noticed a few years ago that I read in the MSM that there were 800 Million muzzies, Then a Billion, then 1.2 Billion, then 1.4 billion, and today I saw a picture of pResident m'Bonga in the ME with the caption noting that there were 1.6 Billion muzzies. All in the last couple of years. That means by 2012 there will be 3.2 Billion muzzies, and by 2015 there will be 6.4 Billion. We need a bigger planet.
Busy little farts, aren't they. I've only seen a couple in one place at a time, so I think they're spoofing me. We seriously need some birth control for muzzies. If you're to believe the MSM, they breed like bacteria. Posted by: trainer at June 03, 2009 10:59 AM (l0OA7) 64
Perhaps, one day in the future, we'll elect an American as president. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 03, 2009 11:00 AM (ZGhSv) Posted by: momma at June 03, 2009 11:02 AM (penCf) Posted by: alGore at June 03, 2009 11:04 AM (l0OA7) 67
This beeyotch they want to put on the SC should be disbarred and put in the unemployment line, and maybe even brought up on charges of racism!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:07 AM (Bu/hr) 68
Obama's not that stupid, so what's he really doing?
Seems like everything he does advocates, "respects", or normalizes Islam. His recent remarks suggested we learn more about Islam. That's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawah">da'wah (or da'wa)</a> folks. The good cop-bad cop routine makes Islam dominant wherever it goes. Da'wa is the 'good cop'. But leaving is punishable by death of course. Asking whether Obama is a Muslim misses the important point of what he's already done for Islam. How many American Obama cultists will convert to Islam because of their unwavering belief in his words? Recall the "I'm Hussein" campaign? That's a small taste. Posted by: Chip Abu Hussein Sayf Al-Dawla Islam at June 03, 2009 11:11 AM (sOtz/) 69
I find myself plumbing new depths of abhorance for the President of GM (and the U.S., of course)
Posted by: Kae Gregory at June 03, 2009 11:12 AM (/+GDy) 70
Strange the da'wah link is broken. I don't see any coding error. Happened to me a day or so ago as well on my Buraq link.
Posted by: Chip Abu Hussein Sayf Al-Dawla Islam at June 03, 2009 11:14 AM (sOtz/) 71
If we don't start acting like Americans and get with the program and stop thinking that someone else will stop this shit, then there will not be a program and it's coming fast folks!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:15 AM (Bu/hr) 72
Obama is a Christian, Natural born American Citizen. DrewM says so. To say otherwise is Anti-Muslim Bigotry, and Right Wing Wackery. Posted by: Pelvis at June 03, 2009 11:16 AM (LlaBi) 73
HTF do you all expect Israel to hit Iran, and actually do enough damage to their nuke infrastructure, to make a difference?
I don't know. How does a military force usually attack a facility that requires shipments of fuel, a robust electricity plant, ventilation systems, and a water supply? Do you really care? Or is this some kind of pedantic exercise? Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at June 03, 2009 11:16 AM (kIjlp) 74
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz Who you talkin about with the subs? If Israel has it, they dont have enough. Obama damn sure is not going to attack Iran, ever. But I agree, if you truely want to bring the hurt to Irans capability you are going to have to but some special operators in there. Maybe grab a couple scientists to get the intel you need to hit them where it hurts. But again Israel can not do this and have any hope of getting their people back out. all their stuff is underground. That why Bush sold some bunker busters to Israel before he did leave. They just cant carry enough in one sorty to accomplish much. So if you cant do real damage, why do any at all? Posted by: Jimbo at June 03, 2009 11:19 AM (73eJg) Posted by: CornFedBeauty at June 03, 2009 11:19 AM (p1yp3) 76
how do roughly 3 million muslims in the USA make us the largest muslim nation in the world. our kill ration in the midle east must be around 250,000 to 1. Posted by: formerparatrooper at June 03, 2009 11:20 AM (n2vBd) 77
Odumbass is trying to implement all kinds of shit as fast as he can and all we do is pick another topic each day to whine about, by the time 2010 elections roll around it will be irrelevant.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:20 AM (Bu/hr) 78
Odumbass will visit mecca just wait and see and he will bow to the rock and maybe kiss it. good times!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:24 AM (Bu/hr) 79
.....we have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam. That may not have the outcome he hopes for. Posted by: Javems at June 03, 2009 11:24 AM (hq71Y) 80
Some may think I'm pissed, well you are correct in that assumption.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:25 AM (Bu/hr) 81
Of course I care Chimney sweep. But it is not going to happen. This is not Osirak. The Iranians built up their infrastucure to support a weapons program before they are even finished with a reactor. Iraq was building a reactor first, so made sense to blow that to hell just before completion. Now that Obama has said Iran has the right to nuclear power for its energy needs, he is saying setting the stage to isolate Israel. So no, I am refering to the post, hoping Israel will end this threat. I say they dont have the capability to do it. I think it would take our Air-Force and Navy a couple weeks minimum, to do the job. And thats with bases all around Iran. Israel doesnt have the legs, the muscle, or the numbers. So drop it. Aint happenin, and getting peoples hopes up that there is an Israeli option, is just buying Iran more time, and letting the Obama admin off the hook. The sooner the MSM is forced to deal with the fact that Obama alone controls wether Iran gets the bomb, then the world will understand where we are headed. Posted by: Jimbo at June 03, 2009 11:31 AM (73eJg) 82
By his logic the United States is also the largest Jewish country in the world. I bet that will go over well in Cairo. wotta goof Posted by: HiHO at June 03, 2009 11:34 AM (5V/kc) 83
Yesterday on the radio I was listening to the ABC news feed. I almost drove off the road when I heard this. It's not verbatim but here it is. The statement by Zawahiri (sp) Alquidea's number 2 is proof that President Obama is making improvements with Muslims around the world becuazse Zawahiri felt the need to respond to President Obama's visit. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. So everytime one of the cave dwellars spoke about Booosh they were doing so due to improved relations with the muslim world? Fackers.
Posted by: Flyguy03 at June 03, 2009 11:35 AM (LIzjN) 84
Bush should have done this before he left office. I hope he has an answer for this, because he will be asked about it later.
Well, I lost a $100 on that bet. Posted by: Paladin at June 03, 2009 11:36 AM (a+kMW) 85
I am anxioously awaiting obama's speech to the egyptians where he talks about mutual respect and for them (and the rest of the msulim world) to stop treating Christians as less than second class citizens, destroying or damaging their churches, not allowing them to be repaired or rebuilt, outlawing Bibles and corsses, etc. Oh yeah, I. JUST. CAN'T. WAIT.
Posted by: ThomNJ at June 03, 2009 11:37 AM (Z6jGw) 86
Whats it going to take for Americans to realize that the mofos in the ME want to kill us all and will not stop trying, will it be your child killed in a mall by a mass suicide bomber, or just plinking us off two or three at a time while we are going about our daily business, better wake up America!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:41 AM (Bu/hr) 87
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I noticed a few years ago that I read in the MSM that there were 800
Million muzzies, Then a Billion, then 1.2 Billion, then 1.4 billion,
and today I saw a picture of pResident m'Bonga in the ME with the
caption noting that there were 1.6 Billion muzzies. All in the last
couple of years.
And that's not even including the 1.1 billion Muslims killed in the Iraq war. Posted by: The Lancet at June 03, 2009 11:42 AM (2jQGY) 88
This speech that odumbass is giving in Egypt tomorrow should be an outrage in itself!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:43 AM (Bu/hr) 89
Looks like this odumbass is the 12th imam they have waited for, and we just smile!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 03, 2009 11:46 AM (Bu/hr) 90
Okay, I went back and watched this a second time. The first time I saw a not. The second time, I'd say it was deeper than a polite nod. I call it a bow. But it won't do any good to call it out. It's quick and shallow and will be too hard to define it. Posted by: katya at June 03, 2009 11:48 AM (oRJZj) 91
not = nod
Posted by: katya at June 03, 2009 11:49 AM (oRJZj) 92
Jimbo, I absolutely agree with your sentiments but I still don't think Bush could have attacked Iran with the American political landscape as it was in his last year in office.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree . I'm glad you stopped lurking . Welcome to the moron underworld. Call us legion for we are many. Posted by: aubrey at June 03, 2009 11:56 AM (vJZ+j) 93
Jimbo, i still like an EMP attack. That will fry all nonhardened electronics and the power grid. Even if they did hardened their nuke facilities, the fact that the rest of the country being on foot, with no electrical infrastructure operating should keep the busy for quite awhile...I would think. I guess the goat hearders would be OK, but the cities would colaspe into...well what they want for everyone?
Posted by: Paladin at June 03, 2009 12:02 PM (a+kMW) 94
Jimbo, also hitting the nuclear infrastructure is the in-the-box American way of war. It may be more effective for Israel to hit Iran's energy infrastructure and kill her export earnings.
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2009 12:06 PM (L64A6) 95
90 - He wasn't bowing - he was bending over.
Posted by: Kae Gregory at June 03, 2009 12:07 PM (/+GDy) 96
In admitting that the US is a Muslim country has Obama repudiated the accomplishments of Battle of Tours in 732 and, in effect, given the appearance of accepting the extension the caliphate to include North America to the Muslim world ?
Posted by: Neo at June 03, 2009 12:09 PM (5d1ix) 97
When does the muslim apology world tour start? You know, the one where they apologize for over a thousand years of Jihad.
Posted by: Rob at June 03, 2009 12:12 PM (MuTpe) 98
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another...a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation..."
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In admitting that the US is a Muslim country has Obama repudiated the accomplishments of Battle of Tours in 732 and, in effect, given the appearance of accepting the extension the caliphate to include North America to the Muslim world ?
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I am plenty educated on Islam bambi and it's not a pretty picture
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Maybe he thinks that he isn't the only secret Muslim.
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This bit about American Muslims is not true in ANY sense. Not by percentage of the population, not by absolute numbers, and certainly not culturally.
Depending on whom you want to believe, there are between 1.4 and 9 million Muslims in the USA. Obviously, most of the Muslim groups push the higher numbers, though there is good reason to believe the true numbers are FAR lower. According to the American religious identification survey, for example (link here http://ncane.com/1bagh ) there are only about 1.4 million people in the USA who identify as Muslim. Compare to 2.7 million Jews, 1.3 million Buddhists, 3.1 million Mormons, 1.9 million atheists, and 1.9 million Jehovah's Witnesses, and its probably just as fair to characterize the USA as a Mormon, Buddhist, or atheist country. Even if you assume the absolute most optimistic numbers are true and that there are 9 million American Muslims (again, there is good reason not to believe this), then that still means Muslims only represent less than 3.5% of the population. France, India, Israel, Russia, Burma, Russia, Singapore, Thailand, and Sweden all contain larger percentages of Muslims (and in some cases larger absolute numbers). So I guess France, Sweden, Israel, etc are all "Muslim" countries too. With "Jewish" Israel in particular, with a Muslim population of 1.4 million (or around 20% of the population), Israel may have in ABSOLUTE terms as many Muslims as the USA, a country over 20x as large. Posted by: looking closely at June 03, 2009 12:41 PM (PwGfd) 106
Shall men in the U.S. start treating women who are Democrats like muslim men treat their bitches?
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It cracks me up that in the same breath he lectures others on how they should know more about Islam, he reveals how little he understands by saying the US could be considered a Muslim nation. Arrogance and ignorance are a nasty combination.
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You know, when the Whitehouse gets their gnarly, puss ridden claws on the Census, we will all know without a doubt that we are "the" most muslim populated country in the world and we will be able to see the proof on the Census websites.
Posted by: Drider at June 03, 2009 12:53 PM (HaJD9) 109
Its time for you stupid white Americans to cleanse the JOOOOS from your midst and embrace Islam.
Posted by: T DUB at June 03, 2009 12:54 PM (B8gqF) 110
>>And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually
took the number of Muslims Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim
countries in the world.
The only way this statement could possibly be true is in terms of geographic area. As the fourth largest country in the world in terms of pure square miles (next to Russia, China, and Canada), the USA could, I suppose, classify as one of the world's "largest" Muslim-containing nations. But at best, this is a strained and deceptive statement. Again, roughly 5% of the American population has naturally blonde hair, meaning that American blondes outnumber American Muslims by a considerable margin. By Obama's arithmetic, you could just as easily call the USA one of the world's largest blonde nations, etc. What I want to know is, does Obama actually believe this garbage, or is he knowingly lying about it? Posted by: looking closely at June 03, 2009 12:59 PM (6Q9g2) 111
You Know America Is Kind Of One Of The World's Largest Muslim JEWISH Nations There, just as true as what Zero said, but probably not a good way to suck up to the Saudis. Posted by: Speller at June 03, 2009 01:05 PM (fh5Oy) 112
Obama is wrong on the math. The link at the link (if the numbers are good) puts the U.S. in the top quintile in terms of the number of Muslims in each country. It's hard to call someone on bad math when his claim is so imprecise. The cultural, legal and political values this country was founded on have nothing to do with Islam. To say or even intimate otherwise is quite simply a lie or reveals a lack of historical understanding. Or both, sir.
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After 9/11 Oprah did a show promoting this idea that Americans needed to learn and understand the Muslim faith. She even mocked how a woman in the audience pronounced the word Muslim - Should be Mooslim not Muslim like the cloth. She also had several guests on who preached about the 'religion of peace', blah, blah.
That was the last time I ever watched her show and have been better off for it. Posted by: Cheri at June 03, 2009 01:16 PM (11AYx) 115
And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually
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countries in the world.
This president is delusional. I guess this sycophantic comment (and complete lie) is this week's version of the obsequious bow the last time Obama met the Saudi king. I've been avoiding his speechifying but will be listening closely to the pap he delivers in Cairo tomorrow. Posted by: tanstaafl at June 03, 2009 01:23 PM (M/8zd) 116
>Should be Mooslim not Muslim like the cloth. Yeah, as if the wipeheads take pains to pronounce English properly. I speak English and you are what I say you are, how I say you are, and if you don't like it you can fuck off back to your litterbox where I guarantee you won't have to hear me anymore. Posted by: Speller at June 03, 2009 01:28 PM (fh5Oy) 117
One thing that has constantly driven me absolutely nuts about Mohbama and Slow Joe is how they constantly spout off "numbers, statistics and factoids" that they have obviously pulled out of their asses which fit their meme but are patently false. Yet our MSM never questions nor corrects them. It just makes me want to scream! Posted by: runningrn at June 03, 2009 01:29 PM (aC/SY) 118
runningrn, the MSM created the Big Owe. Tearing him down now is the same as admitting they are/were wrong and it'll never happen. The effect on the MSM's credibility would be catastrophic.
Posted by: Speller at June 03, 2009 01:36 PM (fh5Oy) 119
suppose Iran lobs one at Israel
where do you suppose the debris of that incoming would fall after the Israelis soot it down? Syria? Jordan ? Saudi? Posted by: austin at June 03, 2009 01:38 PM (p6op4) 120
Looks like the US is going to get a little more Muslim
June 3 (Bloomberg) -- Some of the 17 Chinese Uighur Muslims being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, will likely be released in the U.S. in an effort to convince other countries to accept prisoners from the detention facility, according to current and former American officials. “It’s a virtual certainty that the Obama administration will announce at some point that some small number of Uighurs will be settled in the United States,” said John B. Bellinger III, a State Department legal adviser during the Bush administration
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So if Obama is *actually* a Muslim, does that mean his Oath of Office is null and void? He did swear on a Bible, after all, and apparently that's not a book he honors. /speculation, I know Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at June 03, 2009 02:11 PM (lDdA/) 124
Speller, I know and it drives me frickin' nuts! They got this disaster elected and continue to prop him up. The MSM sucks!
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Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight, Zero pooched the oath. We only have the word of a handful of his sycophants that he retook the oath properly. Let's say, hypothetically that he did retake the oath and say it properly,... the point of taking an oath is to have it openly witnessed by the people who are served by that oath. The "people" didn't get to see him take it. When Zero secretly retook the oath was it on a Bible or a Koran? Additionally, Zero was never baptised a Christian. Therefore, even if swearing oaths was a Christian practise, Zero wouldn't be bound by swearing it and placing his hand on the Bible. Posted by: Speller at June 03, 2009 02:23 PM (fh5Oy) 126
125 - Thx for the view, but FWIW, the baptism thinger isn't a clincher. I myself haven't been baptised [in the water sense] but have taken oaths [military and others] which I've taken seriously and as binding before God.
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If Israel rules out a preemptive attack against Iran they should let it be clear that if they are attacked with nuclear weapons they have a automatic failsafe system and policy set up to respond with the total destruction of the capitals of nearly all Arab nations, Mecca, Medina, Qom, Tehran, and perhaps EVERY city in Iran with a population >100,000. Israel could accomplish this with it's Jerichos or aircraft if they survive, or cruise missiles on subs and ships if not.
Let the Muslim world deal with Iran with that in mind. Posted by: SamIam at June 03, 2009 03:03 PM (uwn4a) 128
Wasn't he just telling everyone we are NOT a Christian nation?
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Look, of course Obama's a Muslim. Everyone (except Malor) knew this from the start.
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> ... we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. I didn't think that was the kind of change we were expecting after Jan 20th. Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 03, 2009 09:43 PM (0FcF8) 131
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