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| Media "Creates or Saves" ~5 Points of Obama's Public Approval Rating By Endlessly Repeating Obama's Absurd "Created or Saved" Non-StatisticWe need a fourth category: Lies, damnable lies, and statistics don't cover it anymore. It's now lies, damnable lies, statistics, and complete bullshit made-up fakey-fantasy numbers the media uncritically offers as "statistics."After nearly twenty years in Washington I thought I've seen every trick ever conceived, but the White House claims of "jobs saved" attributed to the stimulus bill is unrivaled. What causes the jaw to drop is not just the breathtaking deception of the claim, but the gullibility of the Washington press corps to continue reporting it. News stories from President Obama's event last week hailing the 100-day mark since the stimulus was passed typically repeated the assertion that the stimulus has already "created or saved 150,00 jobs." ("And that's just the beginning," the President crowed.) Here's an important note to my friends in the news media: the White House has absolutely no earthly clue how many job losses have been prevented because of the stimulus bill. None. Not Christina Romer. Not Jared Bernstein. Not Austen Goolsbee. Each of these distinguished economists would have failed Statistics 101 for making such a laughable claim. But we see them now repeating these assertions to reporters who have seemingly abandoned all skepticism. Forget that only a trickle of stimulus spending has yet made its way into the real economy. Set aside your views on whether or not the stimulus has any job-saving or -creating impact. And leave for another day the White House's failing to account for changing macroeconomic conditions and seasonal adjustments. There is only one necessary data point to make the "jobs-saved" claim: an accurate measure of expected employment levels in the future. That baseline data is critical to measure what the employment level would be in the absence of the stimulus. Unfortunately for the White House, they cannot possibly know that measurement within any degree of confidence -- and they know it.The media is also demonstrating intellectual incuriosity by failing to ask why no other president in the history of the US has offered up this strange metric in the past. Surely presidents facing a lot of job losses would have liked to have been able to offer a competing measurement of how many jobs they'd "saved." How come no one has before? Surely, at some point, George Bush "saved" some jobs (when he wasn't actually creating them -- as jobs were created just about every month of his tenure). Anyone care to estimate the media's reaction at a hypothetical George Bush assertion that he had "saved" x number of jobs in a month? Hell, the media won't even credit him for having saved lives, there having been no terrorist attacks on American soil after 9/11. They suggest that probably there weren't any terrorist attacks planned, so no lives could have been saved. Well, there is some evidence for Al Qaeda's continuing plotting and no evidence at all for Obama's "saved" jobs. Comments1
When I walked down the street this afternoon, 87.3% of the women I passed secretly wanted to have sex with me. It's true. Trust me. Posted by: dan-O at June 02, 2009 02:38 PM (teb/C) Posted by: Unicle, the at June 02, 2009 02:38 PM (q/qO6) Posted by: Rocks at June 02, 2009 02:38 PM (Q1lie) 4
We have no opposition press unless Republicans are in charge. Posted by: Vic at June 02, 2009 02:40 PM (BYokb) 5
It's a great piece of work by the Obama administration. It sounds awesome and can't ever be 100% proven.
Posted by: EC at June 02, 2009 02:40 PM (iWj1i) Posted by: Media Bigwigs at June 02, 2009 02:40 PM (pUfK9) 7
Like I said yesterday, it's almost as if Obama is trying to out the idea into people's heads that if they have a job, it is because Obama saved or created it. Posted by: Unicle, the at June 02, 2009 02:40 PM (q/qO6) 8
>> How come no one has before?
Because no other president was backed by the media to the same extent. Obama knows this, and so is able to get away with so much more. And he knows it. He has the balls to offer up such a silly "statistic" because he knows he won't be questioned. Otherwise you would never hear it because of the ridicule it would receive. Posted by: dan-O at June 02, 2009 02:40 PM (teb/C) 9
noone ever has before because no president before ever had the media as his adjuncts to the extent obama does.
under clinton, some msm'ers still valued their careers and breaking stories over clinton's career. with obama, none of the msm, with partial exception of tapper and fox, value their careers and breaking stories over obama's career. accordingly, the msm reports obama's made up bullshit to cover for him and keep his popularity high Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 02, 2009 02:41 PM (5r0Tz) 10
There are a whole lot of baby seals out there that we haven't clubbed yet, so we've pretty much saved all those baby seals. That means we can keep on clubbing baby seals.
Posted by: Inuits at June 02, 2009 02:42 PM (pUfK9) 11
In other breaking news today:
War is peace Freedom is slavery Ignorance is strength Sincerely, The Mainstream Media Posted by: Evil Red Scandi at June 02, 2009 02:43 PM (erlfI) 12
My marriage to an American woman created or saved three coital sessions per year.
Posted by: . at June 02, 2009 02:45 PM (gQLr2) 13
Today's Mainstream Media - the slavish and unquestioning loyalty and obedience of the Soviet-Era Pravda, but without the hassle and inconvenience of holding a gun to anyone's head.
Posted by: Evil Red Scandi at June 02, 2009 02:46 PM (erlfI) 14
Did you know that 9 million Muslims believe me to be the choosen one?
Posted by: T DUB at June 02, 2009 02:46 PM (B8gqF) 15
But Barry said that he's already created or saved 150,000 jobs!!! June 2 (Bloomberg) -- California public-works official Bob Beaumont says the $2.1 million he may get from President Barack Obama’s stimulus plan “isn’t going to make a lot of difference” in a county with $40 million in “shovel-ready” projects. “It seems like the federal stimulus is trickling down very slowly,” says Beaumont, chief assistant director of public works for Marin County, north of San Francisco. “My feeling is it’s not finding its way into the economy as quickly as it should.” Workers surprised economists by saving rather than spending the first dollops of cash they received in their paychecks under the plan, as retail sales fell short of forecasts in April.
Funny how the experts are always surprised by what really happens.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2009 02:47 PM (1Jaio) 16
I think what's even more jaw-dropping is the modest size of the figure, especially in light of the mammoth job losses we're experiencing on a monthly basis (Wow, you've "saved or created" 150,000 jobs, reducing this month's losses to only 600,000? Awesome!). If he'd gone with the "saved or created one gajillion jobs" line, it would have bought him many more points in the polls. Yeah, I'm pretty sure if he had it to do over again and realized how completely, blindly credulous his Presstorian Guard was going to be, he would have gone full-gajillion. Posted by: VJay at June 02, 2009 02:48 PM (gQ+XA) 17
He also 'saved' 5.3 trillion dollars from the National Debt. See, he wanted to spend it, but he didn't, so it's saved, see? Isn't he amazing?
Posted by: nickless at June 02, 2009 02:49 PM (MMC8r) 18
"What causes the jaw to drop is not just the breathtaking deception of
the claim, but the gullibility of the Washington press corps to
continue reporting it."
Not gullibility. Complicity. They're on his team. Posted by: Beverly at June 02, 2009 02:49 PM (E52jR) Posted by: dan-O at June 02, 2009 02:50 PM (teb/C) 20
Given that the Obama administration estimated that without the "Stimulus" package unemployment would have been lower than it is now there's no earthly way they can honestly and rationally claim to have saved any jobs. Just no way, it's a flat out deliberate lie.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2009 02:50 PM (PQY7w) Posted by: IreneFingIrene at June 02, 2009 02:51 PM (JKe0g) 22
The media is not even skeptical about Obama's idiotic "green" economy. Neither are the Republicans, unfortunately. Posted by: Unicle, the at June 02, 2009 02:52 PM (q/qO6) 23
Tony, paesan, you need to go into the Reporter Protection Program after running afoul of the GE Crime Family. We'll set you a chance to set up in San Diego, with a nice blog of your own.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2009 02:53 PM (XoYY8) 24
Bloomberg has co-opted this laughable BS for his re-election campaign. I almost did a spit-take when I first heard it.
Nobody saved my job. Posted by: Kensington at June 02, 2009 02:53 PM (i02zG) 25
remember nancy reagan saying obama dissed her re stem cells?
well, obama now has poor nancy up at the podium with him and he's running his mouth about stem cells. truly evil opportunism by obama...poor nancy Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 02, 2009 02:53 PM (5r0Tz) 26
This reminds me of that hysterical scene in the movie "Life with Father," where the lovable but ditzy wife bought a pair of china pug dogs for the hearth, and "saved" $50 or some such. Father (William Powell) hated the damn things, and they had a nutty circular argument where she insisted that she hadn't spent his money, she'd saved him $50.
Which ended by her retiring to her bedroom in tears, still not understanding why he was mad. Liberals. /spit Posted by: Beverly at June 02, 2009 02:53 PM (E52jR) 27
We need a fourth category: Lies, damnable lies, and statistics don't cover it anymore.
I'd say we could call it just "Bullshit", as Obama was known as Capt. Bullshit prior to his elevation and consecration. But that doesn't work anymore since his promotion to Major General Clusterfuck. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 02, 2009 02:54 PM (5aa4z) 28
On the bright side, and as others have pointed out before, this shit won't fly for long. The public is dumb enough to believe that, while their own economic condition is sweet (as it was for the vast majority of them during the Bush administration), the rest of the country is living in vast lawless shanty-towns run by midgets riding on oversized mutants. They won't, however, be terribly receptive to the notion that, while the media is constantly trumpeting these ficitious numbers of grateful, happy unicorn riders out in the nation at large, they themselves are, in fact, bartering with a midget riding an oversized mutant in a vast lawless shantytown. Posted by: VJay at June 02, 2009 02:55 PM (gQ+XA) Posted by: Bosk at June 02, 2009 02:55 PM (fazYB) 30
I saved the jobs of 500 crabs by not washing or shaving my hootchie.
Posted by: Wanda Sykes at June 02, 2009 02:55 PM (dCjum) 31
There is only one necessary data point to make the "jobs-saved" claim: an accurate measure of expected employment levels in the future. True, but even knowing that would not provide the necessary causation.. One would still need to show the "stimulus" was the cause of lower unemployment. Obama would have to know that a millions of employers were going to fire an employee but did not directly because of the stimulus, which is patently absurd.
Posted by: LexisTexas at June 02, 2009 02:55 PM (Vt8uv) 32
Yet more proof, if any of us needed it, that all you have to do in Washington to get away with anything is to be a Democrat. Simple as that. The MSM might as well wear T-shirts with the logo: "property of the Democrat Party."
Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at June 02, 2009 02:55 PM (6hcwg) 33
I wish I had thought of this, but I didn't. Probably read it here somewhere.
But here's the deal. We've got what, 350 million people living in America? Instead of spending trillions to "save" the economy or to "save" the auto industry, why doesn't the government just give each person in this country $2 million bucks? That works out to 700 million, pretty darn cheap compared to what we've been spending. Tell everyone "Hey, you're on your own now. We're shutting down SS and Medicare. We're reducing your taxes to a flat 10% which will be used to fund the military and maintain highways and ports. Now, invest and treat yourself to a little shopping spree." Why aren't we doing this or something like it? Posted by: Dave at June 02, 2009 02:55 PM (Xm1aB) 34
This savings game is fun! Obama is going to save fuel and taxpayer's money by not flying to NYC this weekend to see a show. Posted by: Unicle, the at June 02, 2009 02:56 PM (q/qO6) 35
Listen. I've been following the example of the President of GM (and of course the U.S.) and I've joined in creating or saving hundreds of thousands of jobs. It's not really all that difficult, really. I just tell myself in the morning that I have created or saved X jobs while I was sleeping and - POOF - done. A great way to start the day by proactively helping others. I know - I know, like the President of GM (and of course the U.S.) I'm a really good guy but hey, it's a gift. Just ask Harry Reid. Posted by: Kae Gregory at June 02, 2009 02:57 PM (RkRxq) 36
Pravada was more critical of the the Soviets, than this bunch is of Obama. And these dipshits still can't figure out why nobody buys their rags or watches their broadcasts.
For all their talk of "watching out for the little guy" they've done nothing to look into the pensioners who were screwed in the Chrysler deal. Probably just as big a loss as those bilked by Madoff. No talk of the impact of high taxes on job creation. Etc. Etc. Watch what happens when NYC jacks up its sales tax on July 1st. Posted by: Iblis at June 02, 2009 02:57 PM (9221z) 37
350 million people living in America? Instead of spending trillions to
"save" the economy or to "save" the auto industry, why doesn't the
government just give each person in this country $2 million bucks? That
works out to 700 million,
Posted by: Math is Hard at June 02, 2009 02:57 PM (5aa4z) 38
Instead of spending trillions to "save" the economy or to "save" the auto industry, why doesn't the government just give each person in this country $2 million bucks? Uh, how, exactly, does this give us absolute power over every aspect of your life and ensure our well-funded, perpetual employment? Posted by: Senator Government at June 02, 2009 02:58 PM (gQ+XA) 39
We don't care. He walks cool and has awesome pecs.
Posted by: MSM at June 02, 2009 02:58 PM (QoR4a) 40
Obama has created or saved billions in stealth taxes and cost-of-living hikes.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at June 02, 2009 02:59 PM (PItff) 41
The MSM was doing this all through both Bush 43 administrations to talk down the "Bush" economy, like using faulty Great Depression analogies. And I had never heard before Bush 43 the MSM discuss the number of jobs lost in a month contrasted with the usual "June's unemployment figures were X%" and then simply stating whether it was a drop or an increase from the previous month, or for the same month the previous year, or that month's previous e.g. 5-year average, or how it affected the annual unemployment rate. All of a sudden it became "15,000 jobs lost this month" and not saying whether that was an overall job loss, thus increasing the unemployment rate, or if there were also 19,000 jobs created that month (you know, really created and not pretend created) so overall unemployment actually fell e.g. 0.13% that month as 4,000 new jobs were created overall. Oh, and there's also discussing first-time jobless claims. I'd never read nor heard this stat used before back in the '70s to '90s and that all of these spin-play tricks were pretty obviously meant to give the false impression that unemployment was increasing when it was actually dropping or steady. Posted by: andycanuck at June 02, 2009 03:02 PM (MB+jN) 42
Obama and his minions use this magic math for their budgets too. Hey America I just saved us billions because I know we won't be in Iraq or Afghanistan in two years so I am projecting that money be used over here instead. I saved us billions! I tried that on my husband. Hey babe I decided not to buy that Astin Martin so I saved our family $250,000. Since I saved that money, I thought I would go buy some really expensive tennis shoes and hire a personal assistant so I could be really, really good looking or something. Seriously though, what is the media so afraid of? I love my kids dearly, but if they try to get one over on me, I call bullshit. Posted by: Trish at June 02, 2009 03:02 PM (0U5Kd) 43
But here's the deal. We've got what, 350 million people living in
America? Instead of spending trillions to "save" the economy or to
"save" the auto industry, why doesn't the government just give each
person in this country $2 million bucks? That works out to 700 million,
pretty darn cheap compared to what we've been spending. Tell everyone
"Hey, you're on your own now. We're shutting down SS and Medicare.
We're reducing your taxes to a flat 10% which will be used to fund the
military and maintain highways and ports. Now, invest and treat
yourself to a little shopping spree."
Why aren't we doing this or something like it? Because 350 million people * 2 million dollars is 700 trillion dollars, not 700 million. Or $700,000,000,000,000. Posted by: dan-O at June 02, 2009 03:02 PM (teb/C) 44
100% of Sarah Palin's kegel muscles have greater intellect than Joe Biden.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2009 03:03 PM (XoYY8) 45
Look, you don't know anything about this, but you lost your job. That's right, you were unemployed, but I heard about it and I called your boss and I told him that he better not fire you, and he listened 'cause, you know, I'm Prezdent of the United States and he knew I meant what I was saying. So I saved your job. Really.
I'm awesome. Posted by: President Barry O at June 02, 2009 03:05 PM (MMC8r) Posted by: ACORN at June 02, 2009 03:06 PM (4s1it) 47
Okay, how about 1 million to 350 million?
Oh, never mind. And I did mention that I got this idea from someone else, right? Posted by: Dave at June 02, 2009 03:06 PM (Xm1aB) 48
My wife has something she'd like to say to all of you. Honey?
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 02, 2009 03:08 PM (i02zG) 49
But here's the deal. We've got what, 350 million people living in
America? Instead of spending trillions to "save" the economy or to
"save" the auto industry, why doesn't the government just give each
person in this country $2 million bucks? That works out to 700 million,
pretty darn cheap compared to what we've been spending. Tell everyone
"Hey, you're on your own now. We're shutting down SS and Medicare.
We're reducing your taxes to a flat 10% which will be used to fund the
military and maintain highways and ports. Now, invest and treat
yourself to a little shopping spree."
Why aren't we doing this or something like it? Because 350 million people * 2 million dollars is 700 trillion dollars, not 700 million. Or $700,000,000,000,000. >>>>> The first thing we need to do is to overthrow the tyranny of mathematics. Posted by: WalrusRex at June 02, 2009 03:08 PM (xxgag) 50
Shit!
Posted by: Dave's Ego at June 02, 2009 03:09 PM (pUfK9) Posted by: Dave at June 02, 2009 03:10 PM (Xm1aB) 52
Because 350 million people * 2 million dollars is 700 trillion dollars, not 700 million. Or $700,000,000,000,000.
Posted by: dan-O at June 02, 2009 03:02 PM (teb/C) So the idea is viable, right? Posted by: B.H. Obama at June 02, 2009 03:10 PM (5aa4z) 53
That's okay Dave. The Magic Math has already infiltrated our education system so the individual was the next target. Looks like you were hit first. Don't worry the cure is more Ace and talk radio.
Posted by: Trish at June 02, 2009 03:10 PM (0U5Kd) 54
My biceps have discouraged or scared away 30 potential muggers in the last six months.
Posted by: DavidM at June 02, 2009 03:11 PM (R/e5b) 55
39 We don't care. He walks cool and has awesome pecs. and i feel completly guilt free now...did you notice he's african-american.
Posted by: dananjcon at June 02, 2009 03:11 PM (1B81L) 56
Waterboarding KSM saved or created 16,000 lives per pour.
>>>> "Created" is a bit of a hard sell there. Posted by: WalrusRex at June 02, 2009 03:12 PM (xxgag) 57
There's a reason I didn't go to engineering school.
Posted by: Dave at June 02, 2009 03:13 PM (Xm1aB) Posted by: TheOuietDouche at June 02, 2009 03:14 PM (YmPwQ) Posted by: momma at June 02, 2009 03:15 PM (penCf) 60
Sujatlh 'e' yImev. SUJATLH ‘E’ YIMEV!!! /Klingon
Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 02, 2009 03:15 PM (i02zG) 61
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"Not gullibility. Complicity. "Propaganda Media" or "Puppet Media" Take your pick. Posted by: shibumi at June 02, 2009 03:16 PM (OKZrE) Posted by: The MSM at June 02, 2009 03:17 PM (i02zG) 63
You know how you can tell if a journalist is lying? Their lips are moving (or they are typing).
Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:18 PM (oRJZj) 64
>>>>> The first thing we need to do is to overthrow the tyranny of mathematics.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 02, 2009 03:08 PM (xxgag) Have you been paying any attention at all for the last 4 months? Rahm and I abducted mathematics from its home, took it to the White House basement and strangled the life out of it 10 minutes after the inaugeration. Don't feel bad for him though, he had it much easier than common sense. Rahm raped common sense to death with an Obama dildo he bought on the New York Times website. I'm not even going to get into what Nancy Pelosi did to common decency. Good times. Posted by: Barack Obama at June 02, 2009 03:19 PM (CBGRs) Posted by: Noah Bawdy at June 02, 2009 03:20 PM (dCjum) 66
"Bob, I called you in here to fire you, but then I read this NYT piece. Although we cannot function, what with cap and trade, EEOC, no credit availible, etc, I'm gonna keep you on. As long as we can figure out how a civilian ammunition company can get a piece of this stimulus, you've got a job. Don't leave any green bannanas on your desk, you're still on thin Ice, and you may not see them ripen. Now get back to your dangerous, high pressure job "
Posted by: hutch1200 at June 02, 2009 03:20 PM (DbwWP) 67
I start every statement with "now let me be clear" and you guy's still don't get it?!
Posted by: President obama at June 02, 2009 03:21 PM (AdiwC) 68
I was going to buy a vehicle this year, but I haven't. Does that mean I've saved or created $30,000 - 40,000? What will I do with all that extra money? Do I need to declare that amount on my tax return next year?
Posted by: Quality Control at June 02, 2009 03:23 PM (TOk1P) 69
Don't worry about it Dave. Math is hard !
Posted by: Barbie at June 02, 2009 03:23 PM (dCjum) 70
#59 fish? What fish? All I saw for 3 or 4 photos was different dessert dishes so I was forced to close the site. ps - thanks momma
Posted by: teej at June 02, 2009 03:24 PM (lG7ds) Posted by: nightwitch at June 02, 2009 03:25 PM (YVMan) Posted by: Tim Geithner at June 02, 2009 03:25 PM (i02zG) 73
We don't know anything about these so-called numbers you bloggers are throwing around. We just know that we went to j-school and you didn't. And that you are racists. Shut up. Posted by: MSM at June 02, 2009 03:25 PM (QoR4a) 74
68 Do I need to declare that amount on my tax return next year? Yes. Yes you do. Unless you're applying for a position in my cabinet. Posted by: President Obama at June 02, 2009 03:25 PM (dCjum) Posted by: clarence1200 at June 02, 2009 03:26 PM (DbwWP) 76
Reminds me of Rush Limbaugh being almost always right 95.2 percent of the time.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 02, 2009 03:26 PM (T0NGe) 77
I'm working on the next package to save/create jobs. Does anyone know what number comes after a trillion?
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 02, 2009 03:27 PM (1V2sa) 78
Another question: Has the media ever, in all of American history, so blatantly taken sides and so blatantly laid down their responsibility to inform the American people? Hmmmmm?
Posted by: LegendInMyOwnMind at June 02, 2009 03:27 PM (v/rEn) 79
Journalists are the most sub of subhuman. I find them more detestable than Obama. Being a lying, self-serving SOB is his nature. Like stinging is a scorpion's nature. But the MSM? They make a conscious decision to lie to the public every day they go to work. Or every time they open their mouths. Shame on them.
Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:28 PM (oRJZj) 80
The mulatto mendacity strikes again.
Posted by: Eric at June 02, 2009 03:28 PM (N+w6G) 81
There is only one necessary data point to make the "jobs-saved" claim:
an accurate measure of expected employment levels in the future.
The White House already gave us that number, in the run-up to the Spendulous. (Remember the graph going around a few weeks ago that illustrated these numbers? If somebody can re-post that graph, it would help.) Their own prediction falsifies their claim that he has "saved" a single job. They told us what employment would be without the Spendulous. Employment is now several million units lower than their expectation. Obama has eliminated those millions of jobs. Period. Posted by: CM at June 02, 2009 03:28 PM (f14vX) 82
Everytime a bell rings, Barry saves a job. Name that reference! It's a Wonderful Life! My favorite Christmas movie! Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:29 PM (oRJZj) Posted by: Subhuman at June 02, 2009 03:29 PM (dCjum) 84
@60 Hab SoSlI' Quch!
Posted by: Bones McCoy at June 02, 2009 03:30 PM (1V2sa) 85
If Barack says he's saved those jobs, it's good enough for us. He didn't lie about WMDs like Bush did. There's no reason to look into anything until someone proves he's being dishonest.
Posted by: MSM at June 02, 2009 03:31 PM (QoR4a) 86
Journalists are the most sub of subhuman.
Hey ! I resent that ! There are levels of subhuman. The MSM is at the bottom. Besides, subhuman is in the eyes of the beholder. Or something like that. Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:32 PM (oRJZj) Posted by: MSM at June 02, 2009 03:33 PM (QoR4a) 88
Journalists are the most sub of subhuman.
Journalists think lawyers are smart. And they think mathematics is magic. Posted by: AmishDude at June 02, 2009 03:34 PM (T0NGe) 89
My wonderful nephew was a good Catholic boy growing up. Now he's a third year journalism student and an Obamabot. I almost wish he'd turn tricks as a street hustler or something, anything more honorable.
Posted by: Kensington at June 02, 2009 03:34 PM (i02zG) 90
Anyone who still has a job owes it to The Teleprompter. Let's give credit where it's due. He hasn't gotten around to destroying your job yet if you've still got one. That is all.
Posted by: MarkD at June 02, 2009 03:35 PM (MMy4A) 91
If Barack says he's saved those jobs, it's good enough for us. He didn't lie about WMDs like Bush did. There's no reason to look into anything until someone proves he's being dishonest.
And with the state of today's media everybody is of course falling all over themselves to prove that Obama may be dishonest. What a load of BS. And BTW....if Bush lied then so did Clinton and Gore and every freaking intelligence agency on the face of the earth. Posted by: LegendInMyOwnMind at June 02, 2009 03:36 PM (v/rEn) Posted by: Noah Bawdy at June 02, 2009 03:37 PM (dCjum) 93
He hasn't gotten around to destroying your job yet if you've still got one. I've still got my job as an unpaid housewife. I'm waiting for him to screw that up. Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:38 PM (oRJZj) Posted by: Mi'ch'elle Obama at June 02, 2009 03:39 PM (i02zG) 95
And BTW....if Bush lied then so did Clinton and Gore and every freaking intelligence agency on the face of the earth. Legend, You are not a trained fact seeker. We are.We determine the lies. Why do you hate minorities?
Posted by: MSM at June 02, 2009 03:41 PM (QoR4a) 96
Never underestimate media gullibility and partisanship. When Reagan was president and deficits were rising, the press treated us to regular, escalating estimates from the "nonpartisan" Congressional Budget Office (CBO). When Clinton was president and Republicans controlled Congress and -- whaddya know, deficits started shrinking -- the plunging estimates were attributed to the "Republican controlled" CBO. Someone with Lexis/Nexis can confirm this. I'm going by memory. Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at June 02, 2009 03:42 PM (2QFX4) Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:42 PM (oRJZj) 98
I killed 276 kittens this year while watching soft porn in hotel rooms.
Posted by: David Duchovny at June 02, 2009 03:42 PM (UFumU) 99
I have complete faith and trust in the MSM. That they will lie to me every time.
Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:43 PM (oRJZj) 100
Now, honey, honey, put down the qutluch.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 02, 2009 03:43 PM (i02zG) 101
Bert: Ernie, why do you have a banana in your ear?
Ernie: To keep away the alligators. Bert: But there are no alligators around here. Ernie: Works great, huh? Posted by: Obamalogic at June 02, 2009 03:44 PM (gQLr2) 102
I am Lobama of Alinksy. Resistance is futile. Your life, as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service us.
Posted by: Lobama of Alinksy at June 02, 2009 03:45 PM (1V2sa) 103
katya, I can assure you that we're unbiased. Your perception is clouded by your hillbilly culture and your hatred of poor people.
Posted by: MSM at June 02, 2009 03:45 PM (QoR4a) 104
BO takes both sides of the issue so he can always claim credit. Save or create is just one example, the new example of the day is Iran's nuclear situation. BO supports Iranian nuclear power but not nuclear bombs. If you saw his Notre Dame speech, he did the same thing with abortion. The sad part is people eat it up and BO knows it so he keeps piling it on. We are truly living in a dumbshit world. Posted by: booter at June 02, 2009 03:46 PM (eimUK) 105
MSM, you can take my hillbilly culture and stuff it.
Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 03:47 PM (oRJZj) 106
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While we were all asleep, Obama jumped in his teleporter and defeated teh Romulans. The Romulans would serve Obama for hors d'œuvres. Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 04:00 PM (oRJZj) 122
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I have a dilemma and need some advice. I have a new girlfriend and I'm introducing her to my family. My mother is in jail for embezzelment and loan sharking. One of my sisters is a crack addict and the other one is a prostitute. I have a brother who's a serial killer. I'm not worried about her finding out about them. What does worry me is that I have a 3rd cousin, twice removed who is a journalist. I don't know if our relationship can survive her finding that out. What should I do? Posted by: LegendInMyOwnMind at June 02, 2009 04:08 PM (v/rEn) 126
I have noticed that my attitude toward Obama is getting worse as each day passes. My husband and the occasional person here tells me that we should "respect the office". How can I respect the office of POTUS when I have total and utter contempt for the POTUS? I'm not being a smart aleck. I truly want to know.
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This is what comes of electing/appointing people who don't understand math. The Obama administration, and the news media, are filled with people who are woefully ignorant of basic statistics, accounting, and using a calculator.
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Kensington, it really makes you feel like you're going insane, doesn't it?
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This is what comes of electing/appointing people who don't understand math. The Obama administration, and the news media, are filled with people who are woefully ignorant of basic statistics, accounting, and using a calculator. It's like they escaped from a Disney movie. "Wishing Will Make it So." Posted by: katya at June 02, 2009 04:31 PM (oRJZj) 133
@ 129 But every day I feel the ODS spreading. The endless campaigning, the classless, relentless smearing of his predecessor, the irrational adulation of the MSM, it really brings me close to despair at times. I think an important distinction between BDS and ODS is that under ODS there are actual actions and facts that underlie the disagreement and dislike. Under BDS it was all totally made up and thus illegitimate - the screaming tantrums of a bunch of children. As in the charge "Bush is shredding the Constitution" - which when challenged, nobody could produce any evidence of. Yet there is total silence over Obama's breathtaking power grabs. ODS is fully justified and demonstrable. Posted by: LegendInMyOwnMind at June 02, 2009 04:38 PM (v/rEn) 134
The closest I can come is the number of lives saved by "Truman's decision," but, even though that was a Democrat, I think those numbers aren't too far off.
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I am a hero. I saved 150 people from dying. I mean, I refrained from locking them inside a church and burning it to the ground. So therefore I 'saved' them in Obama-speak.
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So far Obama's been real good at pulling things out of his ass. Come the end of the year, maybe some of those whores in the MSM will start to wake up. Won't be pretty.
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Yeah, it's remniscent of when the stock market tanked after Ogabe was installed and the media refused to link that to him (Bush's fault). Now the market has been rising and The One is being given the credit by the media. A rational person would think you can't have it both ways, but unfortunately 52 percent of Americans just aren't that smart!
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