1 BOOMER!!

2 Personally, I think Obama should man up and do the right thing. Screw the polls. Bring the Gitmo boys home as guests and put them up in style in 5 or 6 of his favorite moonbat strongholds.

3 Gitmo wasn't self-discrediting, it took the work of people opposed to the US taking strong measures to defend itself in the wake of 9/11.

And that would be a feature of HopenChange^TM, not a bug.

4 I credit Cheney - his clear, succinct explanations of the importance of Gitmo have resulted in folks questioning the logic behind Obama's insane desire to close Gitmo and relocate the prisoners. He should try and ram it through, it will be political suicide, even the Dem senators are nervous about this (they probably got an earful from their constituents).

5 Put them all up in Arkansas and see what happens.

6 Prepare for another broken promise from Obama.  Its the right thing to do, but that's not the reason Obama will do it.  I will enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Left.

7 I can't believe either Obama or the dems were ever serious about closing Gitmo.  Even they can see the next step in the process is housing terrorists on US soil and that's so obviously politically radioactive they'd never dream it.  We'll get a few "we tried" bills that never make it to a vote, Obama will says he looked at it and then let it drop.

8

Personally, I think Obama should man up and do the right thing.

That's funny right there.

9 4 I credit Cheney - his clear, succinct explanations of the importance of Gitmo have resulted in folks questioning the logic behind Obama's insane desire to close Gitmo and relocate the prisoners

+1
Dick Cheney is one of the only real men left in the Republican party.

10 Oh crap, we all know where all this shit come from... the media.  The US could be a force for good like none other in history, but in the media we have a force working against us from within, spreading falsehoods about us all over the world, and demoralizing us from achieving good.

11 I say send them all to San Fran Nan's district.

12 O/T: Sarah Palin releases statement on Little Rock murder: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2262907/posts

13 But...but...what about our "values" as a country, as Obama keeps saying?

14 Soon the media will tell us how imperative it is that Gitmo is closed just as it parrots everything that Barry says.

15 I think this is why Obama has been silent on the murder of PVT Long.  He peeps are trying to figure out what exactly to say and how to use this horrific tragedy to their political benefit.  This Bledsoe guy doesn't fit the mold so to speak.  This murder is cramping Obama's style and the build up to Apology Tour II.

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17

I'll start to believe that we're violating the Geneva Convention rules when I start seeing jihadis in uniform.

18 14 Soon the media will tell us how imperative it is that Gitmo is closed just as it parrots everything that Barry says.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2009 12:09 PM (1Jaio)

I think they just did with releasing that poll.

19

BackwardsBoy

You already have. The official jihadi uniform is a rag wrapped around the head, a full, flea infested beard, and a man-dress with sandals.

20

I'm actually in favor of closing Gitmo...And sending those coddled muzzie loons to be cared for by those gentle folk who work at Russian military prisons in Siberia.  Nothing like some bracing cold weather! 

 

And Geneva Conventions?  last time I checked, those captured without uniforms could be shot.  Might as well do it.  What could the Left complain about?  We was just following the rulz and they wouldn't have to feel guilty about prisoners in Cuba.  Everyone wins. 

21

Here's what I'd like Obama to do:

1) Close Gitmo. It's purely symbolic, but if it earns him political capital with some other country that he can cash in later, great.

2) Open another detention facility in the Northern Mariana Islands. New location, everything else exactly the same.

3) Don't tell anyone, for crying out loud.

Call it the FireHorse Plan. If you never hear about it, all the better.

22 WTH was Petreus thinking when he said that stuff about Gitmo? Has the Bamster got blackmail materials on him?

23

Hey, if Obama's OK with having his daughters in their proximity, fine.  Put them up in the White House.  Send them to your daughters' school, so they can learn the error of their ways. 

I've got news for you, Barack.  They aren't cool in the same neighborhood as your kids.  Oddly enough, every American feels the same about theirs.

 

24

If the USA Today/Gallop poll find Americans opposed that means Il Douche is about to change his mind again or the number is actually 10 to 1 opposed to closure.

25 How can the left now trumpet General Petraeus as their appeal to authority?* He's fucking General "Betray-Us," remember? He LIED to Congress, according to Harry Reid.

Now he's your fucking boy?


*it was a rhetorical question. "because they are fucking idiots" is the correct answer.

26 If Obama does not close Gitmo it will be more than a broken campaign promise.  It will be a failed policy he implemented in week 1 of his adminstration.  Since he skin in the game I don't think he can walk away from closing it down.  He was so naive for issuing that executive order without thinking it through.  

27 FireHorse,

Your plan assumes Obama putting the good of the country before his own desire for self aggrandizement leading to ball-licking adulation from his zombie hordes of tax-eating worshipers.

And that is why it would never happen.

28 "Gitmo wasn't self-discrediting, it took the work of people opposed to the US taking strong measures to defend itself in the wake of 9/11."

Thank g-d we got Saddam's WMD's before he had a chance to attack us again.

29 Odumbass will be gone in 2010, or maybe earlier when the dorkbats figure out that he is killing them too, what, they figured just the conservatives would suffer, idiots! We have it over on them because we actually have jobs and save our money, they are suffering now and I just laff and laff at them!

30 T Dub is as slimy a noodle slurper as ever oozed down a sewer pipe on a trail of slug slime.

31

Speaking of Harry Reid he is currently licking SoSo's brain via her asshole saying she is "a complete package" and ready to serve on SCOTUS.

http://tinyurl.com/p2rsl5

What an asshole.

32

That's because the outrage over gitmo was phony to begin with. It was created by an alliance of Bush haters in America, international leftitst that love seeing us fall on our faces, and anti-american muslims that pretend to be offended by everything to intimidate people into caving to their demands. Now that we have a socialist with a (D) behind his name in the WH, the outrage is gone. I really wish people in this country would consider who is outraged before we start letting their disingenuous screeching dictate who we elect.  None of these people ever gave a rat's ass about gitmo. They just wanted to pound the drum long enough and loud enough to get their allies in the msm to turn it into an issue that could be used to persuade the masses of uninformed dolts in our society to vote for Obama. And it fucking worked.

33 Harry Reid was the ring bearer at charles and perez johnsons wedding, I'm sure they all slurped each other!

34 I'd probably accept abortion if the fetus was shot using a 1911 Colt...

35

Thank g-d we got Saddam's WMD's before he had a chance to attack us again.

By us do you mean our ally Kuwait? Or maybe you meant the Kurds. Perhaps you were talking about a direct attack to try to assasinate our former President. I know you didn't mean his payments to the suicide attackers families as that wouldn't be considered a direct attack.  Maybe he would have used the tons of VX gas that was never accounted for as documented by Hans Blix. 

36

OT

This will make you sick to your stomache and piss you off:

http://tinyurl.com/oj8v9h

I am actually full of hate at the moment.

Link goes to American Power blog

37 stomache = stomach   Sorry I was thinking stomach and stomach ache.

38

Thank g-d we got Saddam's WMD's before he had a chance to attack us again.

That's right.  Just ask John Kerry.  Or Harry Reid.  Or Robert Byrd.  Or Jay Rockefeller.  Or Tom Daschle.

Shall I continue?

39

I'd probably accept abortion if the fetus was shot using a 1911 Colt...

Probably a good idea to keep hiding behind that nic if your going to make dumbass comments like that troll.

Coward.

40 hold on there, drew...you must've missed the meme that polls don't mean anything and are liberally biased

oh wait, thats only when the polls are against conservative stances....then its that americans are idiots and clueless fucks.

when the polls support conservative stances, then all of sudden americans are a sensible folk and polls show how wrong headed liberals are.

let's continue on ignoring and bashing polls that disagree with us and highlight the ones that support our positions!

41 duh1 should 'Man Up'?????

I thought he was coke snorting fag....at least that's what I got from The Globe...

42

Lightworker believes the guff he spews. "I won" means STFU and do any insane thing I want.

To the Moonbats, until America elected Lightworker we had no moral standing in the world. Now, whatsoever he deigns to bless is now holy.

Besides, he tacked his flag to the mast on this one and to back off would destroy his sychophants' god-love for him. If Lightworker can't stand anything, its not being adored.

43 T Dub is demonstrating his superior intellect.

44

I thought he was coke snorting fag....at least that's what I got from The Globe...

 

No, no, that's Andrew Sullivan....

45

"I thought he was coke snorting fag....at least that's what I got from The Globe..."

They don't call him President Pantywaist in Britain for nothing.

46 crooks n liars' commenters are still largely crapping on petraeus.  still mad that he was successful in iraq.

from what i read, i think andy is a little harsh on petraeus.  it sounds more like to me that he is paying lip-service to his new boss' positions.  as an active officer in uniform, he can't criticize the CINC.

47

let's continue on ignoring and bashing polls that disagree with us and highlight the ones that support our positions!

A.  Your irony meter is FUBAR, sparky.

B.  There is a big difference between:  Do you think keeping terrorists locked up is a good idea?  and Tell me your opionion about complex macroeconomic problems that have been systematically misrepresented by the White House and the press.

Or is that too complex for you, scooter?

48

palin steele at June 02, 2009 12:40 PM (VDj74

not all polls are created equal you simpleton.  When a poll has biased questions or biased sampling it should be rightfully exposed whether it is favorable or unfavorable to your position.  Anytime a poll is criticized here those defects are pointed out.  If you've got an issue with this poll, point out its defects. 

49 We really, really, really shouldn't bother, polynikes.  This is the same trolltard that actually believes socialized medicine is "free".

50

Nakedly violate the Constitution without amendment and take everyone's guns away so that a tiny handful of crackpots don't have them, just like they did in post-Weimar Germany!

Raise the capital gains tax to 1000% so that people will save more and our economy can become a roaring dynamo like China!

All polls are created equal and to criticize some but not others is teh ultimate hypocrisy!!!111

I'm a drooling dumbass with a trivial, superficial mind that likes to pretend like he's winning arguments with his intellectual superiors despite never having given more than five minutes of thought to any of my largely default positions and you could fit my life experiences into a thimble and I change the topic every time I get my ass handed to me on this board which is pretty much a routine occurrence lol!

51 "By us do you mean our ally Kuwait? Or maybe you meant the Kurds......."

Excellent examples. The fact that they didn't happen in the same century is probably irrelevant.

52

I'm a drooling dumbass with a trivial, superficial mind that likes to pretend like he's winning arguments with his intellectual superiors despite never having given more than five minutes of thought to any of my largely default positions and you could fit my life experiences into a thimble and I change the topic every time I get my ass handed to me on this board which is pretty much a routine occurrence lol!

 

Whoa, go easy on the guy, he went to Harvard...

53

Look over here, I'm trying to blow myself!  Look how close I'm getting!

Pay attention to meeeeeeeee!!!!

54

Whoa, go easy on the guy, he went to Harvard...

Pffft.  When you graduate from the Bayou School of Law and Agriculture, you get more than an education.  You get a fighting sow belly!

55 "If you've got an issue with this poll, point out its defects." polynikes

um, conservatives often like to bash how dumb americans are whenever a poll comes out disagreeing with them. But when polls agree with them, I don't hear a pipsqueek about the low IQ of the people being polled. that's a discrepancy no? 

56 Schoolboy's verify greenhouse effect in the lab

http://www.rsc.org/education/teachers/learnnet/JESEI/co2green/home.htm

Damn lefties, they're getting shorter by the day...

57

News:

Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. of China is the new owner of Hummer.

58

The fact that they didn't happen in the same century is probably irrelevant.

Huh?  As in "WHAT?"  As in "Thou are truly an ignorant asshateth."

59

um, conservatives often like to bash how dumb americans are whenever a poll comes out disagreeing with them. But when polls agree with them, I don't hear a pipsqueek about the low IQ of the people being polled. that's a discrepancy no?

 

This poll in particular, not polls in general.   

60 @57 - I just heard that too on Rush.  This will be interesting as it unfolds. 

61 "Huh? As in "WHAT?" As in "Thou are truly an ignorant asshateth."

I know, I have difficulty distinguishing between the 20th and 21st century too.

62

How 'bout we all just compromise? We'll send the detainees to a Chuck E Cheese in Detroit. If they get out alive, they go free. If not.....oh well.

Am I the only one that's noticed this about Chuck E Cheese?

63 Yes, 10 years ago is just so 20th century.

The idiocy of the left is staggering....

64 "Venezuela's Missile Buildup Worries US"

I'm pissing my pants at the prospect. At this rate they'll soon have 0.001% as many as us.

65 Saddam's terrorist, Abu Nidal. Last known operation 1986. According to my calculation 2003-1986= 10 years before the invasion of Iraq. Luca is right.

Kurd massacre at Halabjah.....1988. According to my calculation 2003-1988= 10 years before the invasion of Iraq. Luca's right again. Excellent work Luca.

66

WoW, a guy on Fox now lambasting Il Douche and other liberals who want to “reset our relations with the Arab world”.  He was really launching into them.

67 The Japansese Emperor sponsored a LOT of terror. I've been wondering why Bush didn't attack him after 9/11.

68 To whatever extent you can trust polls, I think the results on this one were primarily concerned about the "we'll just set them free and imprison them on US Soil" part of the equation than the mere existence of Guantamano Bay.

69

the disgusting unwashed masses don't want us to shut down Gitmo?

screw them, we do what we want...

70

You damn Americans mistreat the innocent adherents of Islam without any proof at all.  Its against the laws of humanity and the UN.  These people have nothing against Americans only against the JOOOOS and Zionists. 

 

These innocents must be released if America wants the respect of people like me.  And all the other Moslems in the UK and Europe.

71 My, my this subject touched a nerve on the left -- they're in full screech.

I don't think the majority of the American public was ever passionately invested in closing Gitmo -- the "horror of it all" was/is a media creation, much like our President.

The thing that woke people up was having to consider the reality of the alternative -- murderous, dedicated jihadists housed, and possibly freed, on US soil. I guess we can thank Obama's bumbling for that.

72 the left wanting to close gitmo was after the abu ghraib thing. after the hilarious torture at abu ghraib, libs ran wild and wanted all the prison facilities closed. gitmo was their new talking point, forutnately for people of my view, we number more than the other on this one.  

73 "These innocents must be released if America wants the respect of people like me.  And all the other Moslems in the UK and Europe."

doesnt seem we want your respect, according to this poll.

74

These innocents must be released if America wants the respect of people like me.  And all the other Moslems in the UK and Europe.....Posted by: T DUB

We don't want your respect or the respect of the castrated eunuchs in Western Europe or the filthy primitive 7th century Mohammedan throat cutters from various Crapistans and EUrabia.

75

Another interesting poll:

As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage. 

Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism. 

The study found positive stories about Obama have outweighed negative by two-to-one (42% vs. 20%) while 38% of stories have been neutral or mixed.

Bias, what bias?

76 I suffer from severe mental disablities due to my inbreeding. I go to parks and enjoy watching young boys. I like to lick dog's balls.

77 I like to get arrested just so I can spend a night or two in prison.

78 I've turned my rectum into a gerbil habitrail.

79

Ok, genius, 20 years. Bush should have just hit the reset button on Jan 1, 2001 and started a new history.My bad. Carry on.

 

Psst, I know that Clinton was still Prez on Jan 1st, 2001, but it doesn't fit the narrative. Clinton is sooo 20th century as well.

80 Quietman ignores all of the period and actions between Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi freedom.  Obtuse is too kind a word.  Ignorant obtuse douchebag seems appropriate.

81 "Ignorant obtuse douchebag seems appropriate. " Maybe I am. What's a douchebag?

82 TheQuietMan: Your posts are all over the place. I'm starting to think that you're a bunch of different people.

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