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Two Soldiers Shot Outside Of Recruiting Station...1 Dead, 1 Seriously Injured

Damn it.

Authorities say the incident occurred around 10:00 a.m. at a U.S. Army Navy Career Center inside the Ashley Square Shopping Center at 9112 North Rodney Parham Road. According to Lt. Terry Hastings with the Little Rock Police Department, two enlisted soldiers standing outside the office were hit when the unidentified suspect drove up and began shooting.

...According to Army Lt. Col. Thomas F. Artis, the two victims were not recruiters, but part of a recruiting program called "Hometown Recruiting Assistance." Artis says recruiters use soldiers to tell their stories and talk to potential recruits while they are visiting or based back in their home region.

Both soldiers were combat vets*. Prayers for them and their families.

It may be to early for this but if the scumbag they have in custody turns out to be part of the anti-war crowd, will the press connect him with that movement the way they are with the guy arrested for killing Tiller? Yeah, neither do I.

Thanks to Amish Dude for the tip from the comments.

(Something wacky happened to the comments on this thread, so I reposted it and they work. Unfortunately, the earlier comments were lost)

*That part of the story seems not to be in later versions of the story. Obviously, it's a fast breaking so early reports are subject to change.

More on the soldiers, they were not combat vets.

Lt. Col. Thomas F. Artis of the Oklahoma City Recruiting Battalion, which oversees the Little Rock office, said the victims had just completed basic training and were not regular recruiters. He said they were serving two weeks in the Little Rock office.

As part of the Hometown Recruiting Assistance Program, the soldiers were sent to "talk to friends, folks in the local area. They can show the example, 'Here's where I was, and here is where I am,'" Artis said.

Artis said neither of the soldiers had been deployed for combat.

I haven't seen anything more on the suspect.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:54 PM



Comments

1 I can haz internal server error?

Posted by: AOSHQ at June 01, 2009 12:56 PM (/Mla1)

2

Awww frak!  The comments got frakked up!

Anyhow, I was asking if something like this could be considered a hate-crime because a specific group was targetted.  If not, then the law needs to be fucking changed post haste!  I will not stand for this kind of shit.

Posted by: EC at June 01, 2009 12:57 PM (mAhn3)

3 check 1,2............ check 1,2

Posted by: Dr. Carlo Lombardi at June 01, 2009 12:57 PM (W6D4f)

4 here's the AP again

23 mins ago

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. – One Army recruiter was killed Monday and a second was wounded in a shooting at a recruiting office, and a suspect was arrested, police said.

Police Lt. Terry Hastings said the recruiter was shot when a man in a black SUV opened fire on the office in west Little Rock at about 10:30 a.m.

The vehicle was stopped on Interstate 630 a short time later and a suspect was taken into custody. Hastings said the suspect pulled over and surrendered without incident.

Police said they found an assault rifle in the vehicle.

Hastings said he did not know whether the recruiting office was specifically targeted or was randomly chosen.

Hastings said shortly after noon that investigators had not yet questioned the suspect and that police were still processing evidence from the crime scene.

As a precaution, police also called in a bomb squad because there were packages in the SUV. Hastings said a robot would open the packages.

Authorities did not immediately identify either the victims or the suspect.


Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 01, 2009 12:57 PM (5r0Tz)

5 WTF?  Are we back in the '60s? 

Posted by: Ken at June 01, 2009 12:57 PM (3rbzb)

6 If the ass hole that shot them is part of leftist anti war group, I certainly hope Salon.com finds it in their editorial hearts to lay the blame at the feet of the left leaning media in this country....just like they did with Fox News, and the murder yesterday of the doctor in Kansas.  But I'm not holding my breath...

Posted by: DngrMse at June 01, 2009 12:58 PM (ngyL+)

7 I blame Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, Firedoglake, Air America, Medea Benjamin and Dick Durbin

Posted by: Beto The Elder at June 01, 2009 12:59 PM (lD4DZ)

8 Twisted.

No, they will not connect the dots.  In-group/out-group homogeneity, you know? 
Anyway, we all know that Tiller was a saint and advocate of women and children while soldiers are the real baby and puppy murderers. 

In all seriousness, here come the gun laws...this "crisis" will demand our saviour in chief to act with decisiveness against the real scourge...our 2nd amendment rights.  Wait for it.  

Posted by: Mommypundit(Hotair ex pat) at June 01, 2009 12:59 PM (r/w1Z)

9

Anyhow, I was asking if something like this could be considered a hate-crime because a specific group was targetted.  If not, then the law needs to be fucking changed post haste!  I will not stand for this kind of shit.

Negative.  Military affiliation isn't a protected class. 

Aside from hate crime statutes, most states have more severe punishments for attacks on police, firemen, bus drivers, and other public servants.  I don't know of any that cover the military, however.

Posted by: AOSHQ at June 01, 2009 01:00 PM (/Mla1)

10 @#5

Yeah, the 1860's.

Posted by: Vincent Vega at June 01, 2009 01:00 PM (dsBLF)

11 As I was saying...This is the result of left wing terrorism brought about by left wing hate sites such as Daily Kos, Huffpo, DU, MoveOn, Firedoglake, SadlyNo and left wing cable haters like Kieth Olbermann , Chris Matthews and Jack Cafferty. Isn't that the way the drill goes?

Posted by: Dr. Carlo Lombardi at June 01, 2009 01:00 PM (W6D4f)

12

Re: #6

He's more likely to be offered a job in the Obama admin.

Posted by: Ex Liztard at June 01, 2009 01:00 PM (jYBcm)

13

whoops

/sockpuppet

Posted by: yinzer at June 01, 2009 01:01 PM (/Mla1)

14 Left-winger or Muslim.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 01, 2009 01:01 PM (b4sAO)

15 Good lord...what a sad, sad shame. I can only imagine the motivation of the scumbag(s) that are responsible.

Satan is out in full force on our precious Earth. Every day brings sorrow & evil on so many levels. This world has gone absolutely insane. From tragedy such as this, to the downward spiral of my beloved country.

God bless & care for these families.


Posted by: Twinks at June 01, 2009 01:02 PM (QPFLO)

16 If you're a recruiter, how can you go to work without your sidearm from this point forward?

Posted by: Vincent Vega at June 01, 2009 01:02 PM (dsBLF)

17 This is something the DHS should be looking at instead of placing our military on a DHS watch list! I have read many articles stating our military are often in danger due to the radicalization of the Left anti-war crowd. I have read where military members have been strongly advised not to wear any military clothing unless required out in public because of so many being threatened.

Remember, as of late a killing like this does not get the same treatment as those who are killed because they are gay or non-White. When Congressional members wanted to protect crimes against our military members here at home, the Dems shut that down.

My sincere and heart felt condolences to the family and friends of those killed or injured. May God be with you all.

Posted by: freeus at June 01, 2009 01:03 PM (zxRJP)

18 14 Left-winger or Muslim.

Nah. Gangbanger. Prolly not politically motivated. Just stupid shit.

Posted by: XBradTC at June 01, 2009 01:04 PM (BtjCI)

19

Expect the DemSM to focus on the caliber of weapon, what kind of bombs were found, the type of SUV they were found in, the SUV's color, you know, important stuff like that. Oh, and it's all Bush's fault.

My prayers go out to the families.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 01, 2009 01:06 PM (ZGhSv)

20 Either way, Brad - it's not gonna get the media play that the Tiller killing got.  Nobody will call this "assassination".  It'll be just another statistic.

Posted by: brian at June 01, 2009 01:07 PM (S2j/V)

21 Hastings said he did not know whether the recruiting office was specifically targeted or was randomly chosen.

I'm taking bets.  I don't care what the odds are, my money is on "specifically targeted".  The only question is: Is it personal or would any recruiting office have done?

Posted by: AmishDude at June 01, 2009 01:07 PM (T0NGe)

22 I'll say it again if I had to bet I would put my money on a disillusioned recruit.

Someone that feels that they were misled by the recruiter, or someone that for one reason didn't make the cut and now feels their life is ruined.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at June 01, 2009 01:07 PM (OkrJ4)

23 So, can we blame the rabid, left wing groups? Can we expect the MSM to pursue every aspect of this story with the same vigor as the will for the abortion doctor's murder, allegedly by a rabid, right winger pro-life nut? Yeah, I did not think so either.

Posted by: IC at June 01, 2009 01:08 PM (jZNCU)

24

Negative.  Military affiliation isn't a protected class. 

Time to propose a law.

For the record, I oppose HC laws, but since we've got no fucking chance at repealing them, then I say we go all in and make the lefties accountable to their own words.

You want HC laws protecting minorities and gays?  Then the same goes for military personnel.

Posted by: EC at June 01, 2009 01:08 PM (mAhn3)

25 Right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids make me laugh.  Jump to conclusions much?  Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 01:09 PM (5s7K0)

26 Nah. Gangbanger. Prolly not politically motivated. Just stupid shit.

Yeah, cuz that happens all the time. It was prolly that blue hair from the local knitting club.

Posted by: pajama momma at June 01, 2009 01:09 PM (kWQTL)

27 Nah. Gangbanger. Prolly not politically motivated. Just stupid shit.

Doubt it.  Look at the pics, this was in a strip mall at 10am.  The suspect was alone.  Anything is possible, but I'll go with probabilities on this one.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 01, 2009 01:09 PM (T0NGe)

28 Picture of one of the perps here:  http://tinyurl.com/lkbftc

Posted by: LH at June 01, 2009 01:09 PM (RIX/X)

29 Right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids make me laugh.  Jump to conclusions much?  Yeah, me neither.

Hey, that jumping is the only exercise I get. Now bugger off.

Posted by: pajama momma at June 01, 2009 01:10 PM (kWQTL)

30

Rumor going around here is that the perp had been turned down for enlistment. Cops took him in custody without resistance on the freeway. Word is there was a bomb of some kind in his vehicle.

(I'm in Little Rock)

Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2009 01:10 PM (OlN4e)

31 16 If you're a recruiter, how can you go to work without your sidearm from this point forward?

If you are a Recruiter, you are absolutely, positively prohibited from carrying a firearm during duty. Hell, they get itchy about you having them off duty.

Posted by: XBradTC at June 01, 2009 01:11 PM (BtjCI)

32 You know, Dr. Manhattan, I hadn't thought of that. I turned down a lot of folks, but never had an issue with any of them. I guess it makes as much sense as any other reason...

Posted by: XBradTC at June 01, 2009 01:13 PM (BtjCI)

33 IANAL, but wouldn't this be considered treason? Yeah, yeah, I know, but follow my thinking here - the COTUS defines "Treason" as "waging war against the United States". Now, if this guy is a member of a group that was actively protesting US policy, they would now be considered an armed group firing shots at our military forces (Casus Belli in any court on the planet), thus they would be "waging war" against forces clearly identified as US military (whether armed at that instant or not), and every member of any group that contributed in the slightest degree to this act of war would be committing treason, if they are also American citizens.

Am I crazier than normal, or is this just another aspect that will never be reported?

Posted by: Drumwaster at June 01, 2009 01:13 PM (Ymor3)

34 This no doubt was the work of an ant-creationist, anti-christian, pro-choice, left-wing nut job.
Brb, going over to cherrypick LGF for hateful comments will report back soon.




/sarc

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:13 PM (AoS9J)

35 Misguided yutes, suffering under the yoke of poverty and shame, I'm sure.  RIP. 

OT:  One of the Black Panther thugs that DoJ dismissed the Voting Rights case against was a certified Dem pollwatcher: http://tinyurl.com/lctzws

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 01, 2009 01:13 PM (5aa4z)

36 This is just fucking awful. I visit my recruiting office every week. There are soldiers just like this coming in and out all the time. All they want to do is help out their hometown recruiting station and do a good turn.

The perp should be executed. Fuck a trial.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at June 01, 2009 01:13 PM (OkrJ4)

37

dave go back to kos where the left wing conspiracy theorists question whether the bee population is being killed off by the evil bushitler and his evil chemtrails and the whole world only has 30 seconds to live nutjob

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 01:13 PM (7CROl)

38

Under the recentlypassed hate crimes legislation, veterans are not a protected class but pedophiles are.  Your government at work.

Grim

Posted by: Grim at June 01, 2009 01:14 PM (gyNYk)

39

I might be a good idea to stop wondering what the media will cover and what they won't.

Instead, if you take daily delivery of a newspaper, cancel it and use the web. The media will not change their ways until we change ours.

 

Boycott them all.

Posted by: booter at June 01, 2009 01:14 PM (eimUK)

40

    28 LH at June 01, 2009

     Picture of one of the perps here:

I thought there was only one suspect.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 01, 2009 01:15 PM (w41GQ)

41 Now that's nice! Fucking assholes, it's beginning folks.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2009 01:17 PM (XooSV)

42 dave go back to kos where the left wing conspiracy theorists question whether the bee population is being killed off by the evil bushitler and his evil chemtrails and the whole world only has 30 seconds to live nutjob

While I do enjoying reading Kos, I like to read here as well.  It's fun looking for a well crafted point framed in a coherent sentence (see example above).

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 01:18 PM (5s7K0)

43

>>Nah. Gangbanger. Prolly not politically motivated. Just stupid shit

While it is of course possible that this is just a coincidence, there are certainly people out there who want to shut down military recruiting places, and will use violence to do it.  Remember this NYC Times Square bombing of the recruiting station?

I think it is more likely than not that this was politically motivated.

Posted by: dan-O at June 01, 2009 01:20 PM (teb/C)

44 I blame Kos, because it's a hate site.

Posted by: N. O'Brain at June 01, 2009 01:20 PM (ibOVz)

45 My dog ate the comments.  really.

Posted by: redrock at June 01, 2009 01:21 PM (ZRr96)

46 Left-winger or Muslim.

Nah. Gangbanger. Prolly not politically motivated. Just stupid shit.

Posted by: XBradTC at June 01, 2009 01:04 PM (BtjCI)

Not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 01, 2009 01:22 PM (b4sAO)

47 Think of the millions this guy killed with his big black carbon spewing SUV before he even reached the recruiting station.


Mother Gaia weeps.

Posted by: Some Kos Kiddie at June 01, 2009 01:22 PM (AoS9J)

48 @31 I completely understand, but I guess the bigger question (for me at least) would be posed if this were at some point to turn out not to be a one-off attack by a deranged individual.

I never spent any time as a recruiter but if this happened again and I were, the odds of losing my career (and almost certainly my Freedom) in the name of self-defense would be a risk I'd seriously have to consider. Again though, I understand the regs, it's just disturbing to know that these heroes are sitting ducks for pathetic scumbags like the one who committed this crime.

God Bless the victims and the families and to hell with the perpetrator.

Posted by: Vincent Vega at June 01, 2009 01:23 PM (dsBLF)

49 They used to spit on us (me for an example, but he has no teeth today) when we came home, now they are armed, but not as armed as we are!!!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2009 01:23 PM (XooSV)

50

Right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids make me laugh.  Jump to conclusions much?  Yeah, me neither.

Yeah, because it takes a real stretch of the imagination to think that leftist groups might be willing to attack a military recruiting station.  It's never been done before, huh?  In denial much?  Me neither.

Posted by: yinzer at June 01, 2009 01:23 PM (/Mla1)

51

Also, this happened in DC like a year ago...

So yeah, I don't think the easiest explanation is that it was a coincidence.  There are some fucking crazies out there.

Posted by: dan-O at June 01, 2009 01:24 PM (teb/C)

52 > Instead, if you take daily delivery of a newspaper, cancel it and use the web. The media will not change their ways until we change ours.

Not a bad idea. I have today's paper next to me and 1/8 of the front page is taken up with the good doctor. We'll see if two soldiers merit the same space in tomorrow's edition.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at June 01, 2009 01:25 PM (5Rrm3)

53 Not mutually exclusive.

That is, gangbanger, stupid, Left-Wing and Muslim are not mutually exclusive ideologies.  And before someone gets on my case for not being PC about Muslims, let's not forget the case of Hasan Akbar.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 01, 2009 01:27 PM (b4sAO)

54 I think it is more likely than not that this was politically motivated.

I think I'm gonna go with Dr. Manhattan's and Maddog's speculation.

Posted by: XBradTC at June 01, 2009 01:28 PM (BtjCI)

55

Hateful, hateful people out there.  Why?  Prayers to the family and friends. 

Posted by: Trish at June 01, 2009 01:29 PM (0U5Kd)

56

Police said they found an assault rifle in the vehicle

Why do I suspect that it was not actually an "assault rifle"?

Posted by: flenser at June 01, 2009 01:30 PM (zqrtJ)

57 Yeah, because it takes a real stretch of the imagination to think that leftist groups might be willing to attack a military recruiting station.  It's never been done before, huh?  In denial much?  Me neither.

It also doesn't take much of a stretch of the imagination to think it was personal and had nothing to do with the military or that it was random and nothing to do with either of these guys or any number of other possibilities.  But imagining it doesn't make it so.  In fact, that's exactly what makes it jumping to conclusions.

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 01:30 PM (5s7K0)

58

"Both soldiers were combat vets."

Artis said neither of the soldiers had been deployed for combat.

Apparently not.  Actually, if the other branches of the military are anything like the Navy, this is something people do one of two times:  right after boot camp, or between the end of their job training and their first deployment.  Wait too much longer than that and they don't have many friends around back home that might be inclined to follow their path.

Granted, I'm sure a lot of people on the far-left still view those two as being only a few steps from pure evil simply for putting on the uniform.

Posted by: Brian at June 01, 2009 01:30 PM (y67bA)

59 Next conservative interviewed by Olbermann should ask him how much he feels personally responsible for the execution/assassination of a recruiter due to his unhinged statements on air. Same goes for every fucking leftist/cultist dirtbag media "personality".  Slam them, never fucking let up. I know I'm going to blame every tiny-dicked pinheaded enemy of the Constitution I run into.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 01, 2009 01:30 PM (XkNfh)

60

to the MSM this is non-news, the real news "Crazy Winger Murders Humanitarian (abortion doctor)"

 

Posted by: shoey at June 01, 2009 01:31 PM (IRh55)

61 Paybacks for Tiller, Beyotches.

Posted by: Left wing nut job at June 01, 2009 01:31 PM (DYJjQ)

62 The other angle I haven't seen speculated, is that this turns out to be jealousy over a woman.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:32 PM (AoS9J)

63 that local coverage here

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at June 01, 2009 01:32 PM (KgG0U)

64 I blame Amanda Marcotte.

Posted by: Blamer at June 01, 2009 01:32 PM (0aQsc)

65 I also blame Charles Johnson.

Posted by: Blamer at June 01, 2009 01:33 PM (0aQsc)

66 Johnson will say it was justifiable homicide and they hated odumbass by serving in the Military, *spit*!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2009 01:35 PM (XooSV)

67 Just looked at the picture of that guy. I am convinced this is the work of a tea-bagger hating on a black man as president.

Posted by: Janeane Garofalo at June 01, 2009 01:36 PM (AoS9J)

68 Guys, if the word about the perp being a rejected recruit turns out to be true, odds are that fellow won't be a leftie or a Muslim.

Let's await events before dialing the outrage up to 11, shall we?

Posted by: Andrew the Noisy at June 01, 2009 01:37 PM (V0QP1)

69 Right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids make me laugh. Jump to conclusions much? Yeah, me neither.

My inclination would be to ascribe a more pedestrian motivation for this heinous act. Likely an unhinged individual with a personal grudge against the recruitment center. However, it is not outside the realm of possibility that this is a politically motivated act. Certainly easy to find precedent for this type of targeted violence in recent history; Bill Ayers ring a bell?

Word of advice, Dave. If you're looking for commentary free of hyperbole and over the top language, blog comments are probably not the best venue.

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 01, 2009 01:38 PM (OWdwM)

70

65 I also blame Charles Johnson.

Nah. Johnson is too busy trying to paint the guy who killed the abortion doctor as representative of us right wing knuckledraggers he hates so much.

Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2009 01:39 PM (OlN4e)

71 The pony tailed freak show just put up another post riffing on pro-life right wing nut jobs. For a guy who's supposedly so pro-military, It's almost like this story doesn't fit his agenda or something.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:40 PM (AoS9J)

72 The media will spin it that the perp was so left wing that he/she swung around into a right wing.  Either way, it's all the fault of right wingers.  Pray for the families and victims.

Posted by: Sparky at June 01, 2009 01:41 PM (J1f2W)

73 He's a freak show all on his own. Blech.

Posted by: Blamer at June 01, 2009 01:42 PM (0aQsc)

74 First guess would be gangbanger, maybe knew one of the sailors before he got out of the life and joined the Navy, score to settle. 

Second would the R O P - jailhouse conversion, independent Jihad - Beltway-sniper style.

Posted by: Holdfast at June 01, 2009 01:43 PM (Gzb30)

75 Guys, if the word about the perp being a rejected recruit turns out to be true, odds are that fellow won't be a leftie or a Muslim.

Let's await events before dialing the outrage up to 11, shall we?

Posted by: Andrew the Noisy at June 01, 2009 01:37 PM (V0QP1)



There's no "outrage dialed up." It's quite simple to say 'okay, he's not what I speculated him to be' should that turn out to be the case.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 01, 2009 01:43 PM (b4sAO)

76 The crazies are already shooting at cops, now the Military are targets, it's the fault of the odumbass revolution I tells ya'!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2009 01:45 PM (XooSV)

77 My inclination would be to ascribe a more pedestrian motivation for this heinous act. Likely an unhinged individual with a personal grudge against the recruitment center. However, it is not outside the realm of possibility that this is a politically motivated act. Certainly easy to find precedent for this type of targeted violence in recent history; Bill Ayers ring a bell?

Word of advice, Dave. If you're looking for commentary free of hyperbole and over the top language, blog comments are probably not the best venue.

I was with you for awhile there, even with the pretentious language (since that was obviously intentional and for effect - well done), until you pulled out the Bill Ayers card and played it as "recent history".   Sorry, that one's a no go.  Surely you can do better.

And I certainly expected lots of hyperbole and lots of over the top language.  Fun ain't it?

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 01:45 PM (5s7K0)

78 Tiller will get the more sympathetic coverage/outrage about the pro-life movement because he is a martyr for the noble cause of partial birth abortion.  Those two young men who fought for their country were just evil warmongers who killed innocent, peace loving Islamists.

See the difference?  Up in Berkeley Code Pinkos are probably breaking out a wonderful, subtle Merlot to celebrate.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at June 01, 2009 01:45 PM (iYbLN)

79 Yea, CJ posted his latest pro-choice, right-wing nut job screed not long after this story broke.

Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:46 PM (AoS9J)

80

My prayers go out to the bereaved families. Their lives are changed forever now.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 01, 2009 01:46 PM (0aQsc)

81

More examples of violence at recruiting centers:

1) Violence and arrests in Milwaukee.

2) Violence and arrests in the Twin Cities area.  This is an indymedia link who had a role in organizing this day.  Their stated objective was to forcibly block the recruiting station. 

3) Forcibly blocking the recruiting station in Berkley

Yeah, this is extremism.  It is also common.  There are many other examples on google, but I don't have time to link stuff forever.  I don't understand why it is hard to deduce that this was politically motivated.

This isn't a random outlier, like the abortion-doctor murder yesterday.  This type of violent resistance is common.  For example, if you have ever gone to a prayer group or protest in front of an abortion clinic, the mere thought of blocking entrance to it will get you kicked out by the organizers.  Those on the left are not nearly as scrupulous.

Posted by: dan-O at June 01, 2009 01:48 PM (teb/C)

82 Dept. of Justice is prolly doing the paperwork to drop charges against the guy who did this shooting as I post this.

Posted by: Jim King at June 01, 2009 01:48 PM (GBXCy)

83 I just read LGF and yup, CJ is a pickle smoocher and communist!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2009 01:50 PM (XooSV)

84 61 Paybacks for Tiller, Beyotches.

Posted by: Left wing nut job at June 01, 2009 01:31 PM (DYJjQ)

If this is echoed non-ironically anywhere in the Obamaist-marxist blogosphere, it's war - specifically rebellion against the Constitution. Civil war doesn't go well if one side is a bunch of pussies and the Left are mincing, weeping sissies to the nth power.

Hope the dirty hippie fucks like the weather in Cuba, because if this goes, that's where the surviving scumbags will be deported to after the smoke clears.

The fact remains that the Left is pleased with the assassination, no matter who did it for what reason. The Left is strenuously attempting to stifle their public glee at this. Add this to the fucking Times Square Recruitment bombing, the terroristic attacks on the Berkely Marine Recruitment center, the constant Big Lies spewed ad nauseum from the shitholes of all the festering sphincterkissers of Obama in the media over the last two years and there's no fucking way that they can argue that this is not congruent to their desires - even if it was done by someone "unaffiliated" with them. This is their pud-wanking fantasy - and they deserve to be called on their sick approval and incitement for more of the same in the past.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 01, 2009 01:50 PM (XkNfh)

85 The AP is reporting that the two had just returned from boot camp. My guess here is this was an old gang related score to settle or some baby-mama drama.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:50 PM (AoS9J)

86 Well, at least palin steele approves of the shotter's actions because he passionately believed enough in his own convictions to take it to the ultimate. . . .

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 01:52 PM (A+6fk)

87

palin steele is also known as Hoosier Hoops, btw.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 01, 2009 01:53 PM (0aQsc)

88 @86



logprof, from now on we address him as Hoosier Hoops.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:53 PM (AoS9J)

89 dave everytime you talk a puppy dies due to hypothyroidism why do you hate puppies

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 01:55 PM (7CROl)

90 I bet he was turned down due to a psychological illness and lost it. I have taken psych. meds that disqualify me from the service and they fuck your brain up if you switch on and off the medication. It is probably pre-existing mental issues or revenge directed at random military members.

Posted by: mike at June 01, 2009 01:56 PM (RfeGK)

91 83 I just read LGF and yup, CJ is a pickle smoocher and communist!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2009 01:50 PM (XooSV)


Bwahaha! Thanks for saving me the trip over there. I also wondered what sort of reaction he'd have to this story.

Yesterday's abortion doctor murder story generated FOUR separate posts, most of which focussed on trying to assign blame to certain groups and blogs for failing to police their own.

Posted by: Y-not at June 01, 2009 01:56 PM (sey23)

92 Something wacky happened to the comments on this thread, so I reposted it and they work. Unfortunately, the earlier comments were lost

And here I was about to call y'all a bunch of crypto-facists for nuking my comment, but ok.

I still blame the Kossacks...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 01, 2009 01:57 PM (1hM1d)

93 We live in an upside down world for sure. Bless the families.

Posted by: Lou at June 01, 2009 01:57 PM (I3lik)

94 dave everytime you talk a puppy dies due to hypothyroidism why do you hate puppies

No idea what this even means, but it did make me laugh.  (Oh, and it's David, not Dave - thanks).

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 01:58 PM (5s7K0)

95 until you pulled out the Bill Ayers card and played it as "recent history". Sorry, that one's a no go. Surely you can do better.

Gosh, Dave, an intimate friend of the current president doesn't count as recent history? Please do elucidate us all as to what constitutes recent history then.

Furthermore, I take umbrage at your snide comments about my so called 'pretentious' language. I do not believe that using the appropriate vocabulary to express a point of view can in any way be deemed pretentious. Clearly you prefer, or are only capable of making, personal attacks instead of a reasoned argument.

Or to be it in terms you might understand, Fuck off.


Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 01, 2009 01:58 PM (OWdwM)

96 david, I saw nowehere that anyone has "concluded" anything.  Just speculatin', fool.

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 01:58 PM (A+6fk)

97 It has been a crazy couple of days. I want to hunker down or something.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 01, 2009 01:59 PM (0aQsc)

98 Here is what I will speculate: The guy was turned down (justifiably) for enlistment due to his record of psycological problems, In a fit of psychotic rage, he decided to get revenge for his persecution. He  obviously had no well thought out plan for escape, and did not give the cops any trouble when they stopped him. He was acting alone, and after sating his anger realized the game was up. Not wanting to get weighted down with lead (like the guy who shot Gwatney)  he pulled over when the cops got on his tail. If he is lucky, he will spend the rest of his life in a mental institution. If he can't convince the judge he is crazy, he will be tried and executed.

Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2009 02:00 PM (OlN4e)

99 CJ's now got a post up about this well after an hour after it broke. For a guy who's so up on breaking news, he looks late to the party.

Naw, who am I I kidding, he just had to get in another dig at us crazy right wingers before he could report on it.

He's probably pissed he couldn't get any more mileage out the Tiller shooting before this story broke and pushed it to the back burner.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 02:01 PM (AoS9J)

100 Or to be it in terms you might understand, Fuck off.

david, I saw nowehere that anyone has "concluded" anything.  Just speculatin', fool.

Aw, now you've hurt my feelings.

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:03 PM (5s7K0)

101

The Tiller killing will be used and used and used, by Chuck and others.

 

Posted by: Who Knows at June 01, 2009 02:04 PM (0aQsc)

102 88 @86



logprof, from now on we address him as Hoosier Hoops.

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 01:53 PM (AoS9J

--Damn, so I have to retire palin stale now? Oh well, guess it'll have to be Hoosier Poops.

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 02:06 PM (A+6fk)

103

aw now you have hurt my feelings

 

OH NOEZ we hurt your feelings aw me so sorry dave for hurting your feelings honestly bush made me hurt your feelings cheney did too so did anne coulter and Mary katherine ham i'am so sorry

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 02:08 PM (7CROl)

104 Aw, now you've hurt my feelings.

Eh ... you really don't have anything to bring to the party do you?

Pity ... I had high hopes since most of your ilk don't even bother with capitalization or punctuation.

Thanks for playing. Move along ...

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 01, 2009 02:09 PM (OWdwM)

105

maddogg & XBradTC etc.:

I am not saying that I think this was definitely done by radical leftists.  I think that there are certainly other plausible explanations.  I am just saying that given the history of past violence at recruiting centers and their focus on these centers, this seems like the most likely explanation.  Which does not even make it more than a 50% likelyhood or anything like that.  It just means that it seems more likely than any other single explanation.

Posted by: dan-O at June 01, 2009 02:09 PM (teb/C)

106

Aw, now you've hurt my feelings.

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:03 PM (5s7K0

--That was not my intention, but I'll take it as a bonus.

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 02:10 PM (A+6fk)

107 OH NOEZ we hurt your feelings aw me so sorry dave for hurting your feelings honestly bush made me hurt your feelings cheney did too so did anne coulter and Mary katherine ham i'am so sorry

Well played (but seriously, some punctuation would be nice now and then).

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:11 PM (5s7K0)

108 Yeah, and I'm sure the lefties did not "jump to conclusions" when Tiller was shot.

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 02:13 PM (A+6fk)

109
Hey david, stop being a dick.  I know you think you are much smarter than everyone else here, so try to live up to that.  Intelligent people don't troll blogs trying to provoke outbursts.

Posted by: dan-O at June 01, 2009 02:13 PM (teb/C)

110 Pity ... I had high hopes since most of your ilk don't even bother with capitalization or punctuation.

Thanks for playing. Move along ...

You make a good point, this conversation has degenerated into a game of one-up-manship (as is quite common in this type format) and I certainly had a part in that.   And while I don't think I actually even have an "ilk", the one thing I did want to "bring to the party" is that this jumping to conclusions, whether from the right wing or the left, gets none of us closer to where we need to be.  Families have suffered a great loss and the none of us need to be using their loss to assign blame or make political points (at least not yet).

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:17 PM (5s7K0)

111 Wow, first a religious icon of the left is murdered, and the next day an object of respect for the right is attacked.

It's almost like someone's deliberately aggravating a conflict.

Posted by: apotheosis at June 01, 2009 02:19 PM (xWk3U)

112

"As a precaution, police also called in a bomb squad because there were packages in the SUV. Hastings said a robot would open the packages."

>_<

Posted by: WALL.E at June 01, 2009 02:21 PM (+hPIb)

113

But the big question is, "Will Phil's dad start voting GOP?" now due to this outrage.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 01, 2009 02:23 PM (MB+jN)

114 #37 the bee population is being killed off by the evil bushitler and his evil chemtrails - 'cept I was watching chemtrails before bush took office

Posted by: teej at June 01, 2009 02:27 PM (c459z)

115 Why is this thread double-posted?

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 02:33 PM (A+6fk)

116 I blame Preznit Figape Bobizzle McStalinacorn.

Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/-tard at June 01, 2009 02:33 PM (J13o1)

117 Does david realize at all that the postings here are far saner than the shit flying around the leftardosphere yesterday?

Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2009 02:37 PM (A+6fk)

118 teej but you realize bushitler is cause for everything evil in the world uncluding oil depletion[bush will still control things in 2057]

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 02:37 PM (7CROl)

119 117 Does david realize at all that the postings here are far saner than the shit flying around the leftardosphere yesterday?

What David does realize is that, whether we agree with each other or not, stuff like this only widens the chasm, and that's a shame.  We should be able to talk to each other instead of inventing new and interesting ways to dehumanize and insult each other.

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:41 PM (xLgue)

120 david, you have made some valid points in this thread, it's too bad you come off as a total douche, and that's why you're getting jumped. We're all morons here and take great pride in that. Next time, be less douchey.

Posted by: Ex Liztard at June 01, 2009 02:42 PM (jYBcm)

121 david:  Right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids make me laugh.  Jump to conclusions much?  Yeah, me neither.

Did you and your lefty friends paste conservatives as responsible for the death of the not-cold-yet Dr. George Tiller, Abortionist?

This game is EASY!

XBradTC: Left-winger or Muslim.

Nah. Gangbanger. Prolly not politically motivated. Just stupid shit.

Gangbangers... Lefty charity cases (show me a conservative-leaning gangbanger, seriously).  The recruiter shootings may not be politically motivated, but if they're not, they were committed by a liberal sympathizer.  Does it mean anything?  Not now, but who knows....

On the other hand, were the recruiter shootings some sort of twisted retribution for the abortionist's murder?

da DAH!

Only The Shadow knows.....

Posted by: Jazz at June 01, 2009 02:44 PM (hnq5i)

122 We should be able to talk to each other instead of inventing new and interesting ways to dehumanize and insult each other.

Your side first.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 01, 2009 02:48 PM (ZJ/un)

123 120 david, you have made some valid points in this thread, it's too bad you come off as a total douche, and that's why you're getting jumped. We're all morons here and take great pride in that. Next time, be less douchey.

So less douchey but more moroney?  misspell words, no capitalization, run on sentences and extreme hyperbole whether it makes a valid point or not?  Cause clearly conversation isn't the point, its more about,... wait, what is it about?  i surely want to be able to fit in with morans and that great source of pride.  maybe thats the point, fitting in with the lowest common denominator.

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:48 PM (xLgue)

124

so less douschey but become more moroney?

 

takes one to knw one!

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 02:51 PM (7CROl)

125 122 We should be able to talk to each other instead of inventing new and interesting ways to dehumanize and insult each other.

Your side first.

I'll bet the next line is "I know you are but what am I" or maybe "he started it".  Seriously, - your side first?  That's your answer to what was and invitation to have a meaningful and mature conversation?  Your side first? 

Posted by: david at June 01, 2009 02:55 PM (xLgue)

126 jazz,

why would that guy shoot two soldiers instead of anti-abortion people? I am betting that the guy could not get in because of psychological issues or shot them for revenge. If he was a left-wing nut or alex jones type he would have attacked the cops also.

Posted by: mike at June 01, 2009 02:57 PM (RfeGK)

127 oh david come on we were just castrated by the evil bushitler so forgive us!

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 02:58 PM (7CROl)

128 David,

What sort of conversation are you here looking for? You know that the people here, pro-life or not, are opposed to shooting abortion doctors and now we are talking about the tragic murder of two innocent soldiers. What do you want?

Posted by: mike at June 01, 2009 02:59 PM (RfeGK)

129 I noticed Chuckles Johnson decided to obey the 48 hr. rule on this story before speculating and painting everyone in sight with his extremely broad brush. Awwww, ain't that sweet !


Wonder where his 48 hr. rule and objectivity were yesterday before he started jumping to conclusions and blaming the Tiller shooting on all pro-lifers and conservatives ?

Can there possibly be any doubt now that Chuckles The Clown has jumped the shark and is now an uber-leftist douchenozzle ?

Posted by: Blazer at June 01, 2009 03:00 PM (AoS9J)

130 You make a good point, this conversation has degenerated into a game of one-up-manship (as is quite common in this type format) and I certainly had a part in that. And while I don't think I actually even have an "ilk", the one thing I did want to "bring to the party" is that this jumping to conclusions, whether from the right wing or the left, gets none of us closer to where we need to be. Families have suffered a great loss and the none of us need to be using their loss to assign blame or make political points (at least not yet).

It is more than a little disingenuous to claim that you came to a conservative blog and jumped into the fray on an emotionally charged issue all in the hopes of opening an honest, respectful dialouge. Particularly since your opening salvo was snide admonition of right wing conspiracy theorists. Speculation and hyperbole are the bread and butter of blog comments; wouldn't be much point to them if folks weren't offering opinions and waited until all the facts were known.

I will give you credit for couching your retreat in a guise of concern and empathy for the victims and their families; nicely played.

Posted by: dumb_blonde at June 01, 2009 03:00 PM (OWdwM)

131 David,

Say something mature and meaningful. Anything...

Posted by: mike at June 01, 2009 03:07 PM (RfeGK)

132 Just give him a sippy cup and some crayons and put him in the corner somewhere.

Posted by: Ex Liztard at June 01, 2009 03:08 PM (jYBcm)

133

"Right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids make me laugh.  Jump to conclusions much?"

"We should be able to talk to each other instead of inventing new and interesting ways to dehumanize and insult each other."

Explain to me how lumping AoS posters as "right-wing conspiracy theory paranoids" does not dehumanize them?

Explain to me how your response of condescending laughter, and accusation of conclusion-jumping do not insult them?

Explain to me how your overall introductory post to this thread embodies an interest in a respectful, open dialogue of different viewpoints?

Posted by: reason at June 01, 2009 03:11 PM (XiVKO)

134 Soooo, as long as we're on the subject of national unity...Can anyone recommend a good HD shot shell load that would feed well in a Saiga-12?

Posted by: monkeyfan at June 01, 2009 03:13 PM (cEE8N)

135

And so the '90's crack babies come of age. This asshole looks like he was doing something for a gang iniation.

For whatever reason, when we start losing troops at home, it isn't far from " game on" time.

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 01, 2009 03:13 PM (RlRKN)

136 And Davey, whilst you're in such a concilliatory mood, how about fetch me a fucking juice box.

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 01, 2009 03:18 PM (RlRKN)

137 mike: why would that guy shoot two soldiers instead of anti-abortion people?

I was being more than slightly fatuous, mike.  To make a half-hearted attempt at legitimatizing the suggestion, though, the military tends conservative, and the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are generally seen as Republican creations by libs; striking at the military might be seen as a strike at conservatives in some twisted sense.  As to why choose military targets over pro-lifers?  IF it was indeed the intent to get a little retribution, perhaps the fact that recruiting stations are ubiquitous and much more numerous (i.e., accessible) than pro-life offices may have had something to do with it.  Or the fact that few pro-life advocates have notoriety equal to Dr. Tiller's (excepting people like the Pope, I guess).

All of this follows from a slightly ridiculous suggestion, though.  I have no idea of what the gunman was thinking, and I'm not sure I want to know.  I have lots of ideas I think are stupid, yet I invariably put them in the public forum with a faint Walter Mitty-like hope that someone else will realize I invented the intellectual equivalent of the wheel.  All that really happens is that I am mildy embarrassed while consternating and confusing others.  I really need to learn to filter better.

Posted by: Jazz at June 01, 2009 03:23 PM (hnq5i)

138 Gee after reading the comments i was ure that he was going to turn out to be a vegan eating leftie. Doesn't look like it to me At some point will the discussion come around to the pros and cons of the weapon he chose ?

Posted by: John ryan at June 01, 2009 03:24 PM (behNH)

139

Anti War hate mongers like daily kos, puffington (she turned a guy gay btw), Keith Olbie, the guy from the matrix.. now called maddow is obviously responsible.  Time for the treason trials, no?

 

Conservatives MUST play this up! no holds barred.

(god I'm going to love this)

Posted by: Billy Ruben at June 01, 2009 03:27 PM (IMSJ7)

140 Could it really have been a super patriot who flipped out when they refused to enlist him ?

Posted by: John ryan at June 01, 2009 03:28 PM (behNH)

141

You can start, John ryan. How about giving us your definition of 'assault rifle'?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 01, 2009 03:30 PM (MB+jN)

142 We support our troops... when they shoot their officers!

Let's hear it for this "super patriot" who murdered these two American babykillers!

Woooooooo! We won!!!


Posted by: John Ryan and the rest of the left at June 01, 2009 03:35 PM (p5kT1)

143 Seriously, - your side first?  That's your answer to what was and invitation to have a meaningful and mature conversation?  Your side first?

When the left stops lying about conservatives, starts treating conservatives with respect instead of treating them as sub-human, when the left stops their "By Any Means Necessary" tactics, then conservatives should stop making their baby-steps into the same realm.


Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 01, 2009 03:37 PM (ZJ/un)

144 Time wasters - a lefty wants a mature and meaningful conversation. Those folks can't even pass govt. 101. Socialism can never work in the long run.   

Posted by: teej at June 01, 2009 03:47 PM (lG7ds)

145 john ran your a pathetic boil on the ass of america       

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 03:49 PM (7CROl)

146 Wanna bet the shooter is a fucking muslim?

Posted by: SFC MAC at June 01, 2009 03:49 PM (dX8Ae)

147

Has barry issued his "shocked and outraged" press statement yet? Or is that only for fallen mass-murderers that give heavily to D's?

 

 

Posted by: turtle at June 01, 2009 03:51 PM (tm/sN)

148 of course if he were someone who put a bullet in mumia abu jamal's basil ganglia than obama would be shocked and outraged

Posted by: Newyorkstatistofmind at June 01, 2009 04:01 PM (7CROl)

149

David;

The "your side first" is intended to make you realize and reflect upon the 8 plus years of unhinged, anti-Americanism, anti-Christian and anti-semitic bigotry, anti-region bigotry (hurr Southerners are stupid inbreds, etc), pro-statist, pro-islamofascist (Code Pink's support of terrorists' families in Iraq, etc), and urban uber alles bias (rurals are hicks/stupid) that your side has sprayed constantly to undermine the Bush administration, all conservatives, and paint your opponents (that's us) as racist, homophobic, et al.

We have had it with you guys. You claim to be offended when we point out factual issues with the President (whom we still refer to with the title, unlike your mouthpieces who constantly denigrated President Bush as "Mr. Bush" and besmirched Govenor Palin as "Mayor Palin" when you weren't calling them horrible fucking names). He's a fucking socialist. Why is that an issue you may ask? Because socialism is slavery. Is tyranny. Is always a failure - and the only people who advance socialism other than the befuddled are the ones who dream little squicky dreams of being a slave owner or being enslaved. Socialism requires the dimunition and eradication of the Constitutional restrictions on Governmental power - and the surrender of Liberty by the People to the Government. It is a recipe for disaster, seasoned with civil war. And your side is pushing it so hard that I would be surprised as fuck to get to 2012 without a shooting war in the States.

You've denigrated and dehumanized us for years. Your side has sown the seeds and are now surprised that we see you as enemies, not as countrymen - and no longer as mere opponents. Your side has spent millions painting us as evil, showing your hatred and disdain for "flyover country" and indoctrinating the youth to despise us. Well, now the sentiment is fully fucking returned, and there is no forgiveness without your side owning up to your own actions and words.

Yes, many of us hate you unreservedly. It is due to your side running us down, lying about us, hacking apart the Constitution, and promoting naked predjudice and hatred against us while ascribing the most base and evil intentions to us.

Your side has slandered and libelled us 24 hours a goddamned day for decades - and have cheated and stolen votes and undermined our Republic in deed and in intent all the time in order to punish us - have abused and degraded our Judicial system to pervert the clear intentions of the Founders and to protect your allies - have dismantled our borders and ceased the enforcement of our laws - have given aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of war while threatening independent media (talk radio) with destruction when you get power - and you expect us to give a flying fuck that you want to "have a conversation"?? You're mad. And we're beyond fucking angry.

You want a fucking conversation? Then reacquaint yourself with the crimes of the extreme goddamned left and admit that your side has pushed us to the brink of fucking civil war. We're a cunthair away from pulling the trigger on you filthy fucking hippy traitors, my friend, and you better get a good goddamned idea about your side's guilt in this. We're fucking enraged, and the only reason you haven't figured it out yet is because we have kept faith with the Constitution and with basic human dignity - but every goddamned day your side goes on smugly and hatefully makes it more and more difficult to keep from dropping the goddamned hammer on you fucks.

You desire a civil conversation? Admit your side's wrongdoing and sole responsibility for pushing us so close to the edge of the knife, and we'll talk. If you respond with some self-serving twaddle, then fuck you sideways.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 01, 2009 04:15 PM (XkNfh)

150 This incident? Tiller? A militarized police force? NorthCom? The government ignoring the Constitution and nationalizing private businesses?

All but a prelude. Merely the opening bars of the terrifying beauty of the symphony to follow.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at June 01, 2009 04:21 PM (FoHqy)

151 It heartening to see Obama make a public statement condemning the attack, and express his gratitude to America's military and concern for the victims' families.

(snark.off)

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2009 04:25 PM (iafWn)

152 Very well said inspector asshole!! You put into words exactly how I feel (and doubtless millions) but just didn't have the energy to say it.

Posted by: Billy Ruben at June 01, 2009 04:25 PM (IMSJ7)

153 That was a beautiful cup o' rant there, Inspector Asshole.  Think I'll take another sip and savor it.

Posted by: Jazz at June 01, 2009 04:30 PM (hnq5i)

154

Inspector Asshole, 

Are you auditioning for a guest posting gig? Well done sir.

Posted by: Ex Liztard at June 01, 2009 04:35 PM (jYBcm)

155 Yet another post on Tiller at LGF.

Posted by: Ex Liztard at June 01, 2009 04:37 PM (jYBcm)

156 inspector asshole,,,, standing ovation , throwing baseball cap in the air while shouting 'Hell yeah'.

Posted by: aubrey at June 01, 2009 04:46 PM (vJZ+j)

157 >>155 Yet another post on Tiller at LGF.

Yeah, and did you catch the "logic" in that one? Apparently, subscribing to a magazine, posting comments on a web site, and *gasp* having a Post-it note with the phone number of an organization means that you belong to a movement and it's incumbent upon the leaders of that movement to root you out and expel you from their movement.

Posted by: Y-not at June 01, 2009 05:10 PM (sey23)

158

Inspector,

That was a righteous rant, sir. People like David should read that and heed what they've done. I truly do believe we are not far from civil war in America because the parallels between now and 1936 in Spain are truly frightening.

It won't take much to set the tinder ablaze.

Posted by: mac at June 01, 2009 06:10 PM (x+Mfx)

159 At a briefing Monday afternoon, Little Rock police chief Stuart Thomas identified the suspect as Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, 24, of Little Rock. Thomas says Muhammad also goes by the name Carlos Bledsoe.Hastings identified the second wounded soldier as Quinton Ezeagwula, age unknown. He remains at a local hospital in stable condition with non-life-threatening injuries. Muhammad led police on a brief pursuit towards downtown Little Rock, before being taken into custody in the area of the Interstate 30/630 interchange. Authorities searched the vehicle and found an assault rifle, Hastings said. A bomb squad was called in, as police were concerned about two bags in the vehicle, but no explosives were found, he said. At the Monday-afternoon briefing, Thomas said investigators believe Muhammad acted alone, and likely carried "political and religious motives." http://tinyurl.com/lkbftc

Posted by: Deanna at June 01, 2009 06:12 PM (bg/3n)

160 "Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, 24, of Little Rock aka Carlos Bledsoe."

Has the MSM even mentioned the shooters name yet?  Probably not, doesn't fit the narrative.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 01, 2009 06:18 PM (LzK3i)

161

Google hits for tiller abortion doctor shot = 564,000

Google hits for arkansas shooting William Long Quinton Ezeagwula = 139

Google hits for "Carlos Bledsoe" = 1,130 [And the "Carlos Bledsoe" one includes people with the same name but who aren't the Arkansas shooter.]

Google hits for "Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad" = 190 [Most of which seem to be conservative blogs; HotAir, for example, is in the top five]

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