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Officials from The Service Employees International Union are urging that the DC affiliate of NBC not run an ad opposing a single payer health care plan and a pro-reform group is darkly warning about the possible repercussions for the ad sponsors if they run it*.

The dears at the SEIU are worried that voters might be fooled by an ad they say “will be false, deceitful, and a distortion,”. One slight problem with that argument.

The SEIU has not seen the ad, but is drawing the conclusion from CPR’s record of running “demonstrably false” ads. The station has the duty to protect the public from misleading advertising, the letter argues.
If the ad is aired and does contain falsehoods, CPR could face a fine from the Federal Communications Commission, said Levana Layendecker, the online campaigns director for Health Care for America Now, a coalition pushing to create a public insurance plan.

Put aside the rank stupidity of characterizing something you haven't seen for a minute and consider the fact that a union whose members will benefit from increased government spending are trying to silence the opposition. Damn taxpayers, don't they know their only job is to work so the government can tax the hell out of them and "spread the wealth around" to union members? Silly proles, talking back isn't part of the deal.

As for the charges of inaccuracies SEIU can't back up and the threat for FCC action, I'm pretty sure this will qualify as a political ad and thus isn't subject to truth in advertising rules. This is simply an effort to silence political opposition.

Welcome to era of Hope and Change.

BTW, this isn't just any union but one that heavily supported Obama.

Might be fun if some enterprising reporter asked the President if agreed with the goon tactics of one of his biggest supporters.

Meanwhile you can see more from the anit-single payer group Conservatives for Patients' Rights at their website.

*I erred in the original post. The SEIU isn't warning the station about possible repercussions for running the ad, a pro-public insurance group is muttering about FCC repercussions for CPR.

Part of my confusion was I don't think the FCC can punish a non-license holder. The station has an FCC license but an advocacy group doesn't and as such is not subject to FCC jurisdiction. I believe truth in advertising regulations are enforced by the Federal Trade Commission. Any violations of campaign regulations would be handled by the Federal Elections Commission.

Still, I apologize for the mistake.

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Posted by: Veronica Pluto at May 29, 2009 01:05 PM (V174g)

Unfortunately, I am affiliated with the SEIU. On a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 are your conservative and patriotic but Mafia run Teamsters and Construction Workers, and 1 are out and out communists, the SEIU rates a 3, possibly a 2.Where are the ghosts of George Meany and Lane Kirkland when we need them?

They are a big part of "What's The Matter With California", as they have a strangehold on the state government.

They are ardently pro illegal alien, even though that inherently undermines service worker wages. But hey, they want a larger lumpenproletariat.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 29, 2009 01:06 PM (ujg0T)

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Posted by: Angelo Fah at May 29, 2009 01:12 PM (lQbuj)

Oh hey, something else the republicans will roll (or bend) over for with hardly a wimper.

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Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2009 01:14 PM (IhQuA)

SEIU and ACORN are joined at the hip, you really can't separate the two. When a (slightly) more palatable public face is required, they trot out SEIU but there isn't an inch of sunlight between the organizations or their agendas.

Not too surprising then that they are also linked to Obama.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 29, 2009 01:15 PM (VW9/y)

7 As for the charges of inaccuracies SEIU can't back up and the threat for FCC action, I'm pretty sure this will qualify as a political ad and thus isn't subject to truth in advertising rules.

This is a strange defense, though. If CPR can't run an honest ad about single payer; why is it running an ad at all?

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2009 01:15 PM (IhQuA)

Leftist Union Tries To Stifle Health Care Debate

Officials from The Service Employees International Union are urging that the DC affiliate of NBC not run an add opposing a single payer health care plan and darkly warning about the possible repercussions for the station if they run it.

Wow. This sounds like something Gabriel Malor would write. Wasn't he just recently chiding us all for undermining the rule of law for being sceptical of the California Supreme Court?

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9 On a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 are your conservative and patriotic but Mafia run Teamsters and Construction Workers, and 1 are out and out communists, the SEIU rates a 3, possibly a 2.

That high? Really?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 29, 2009 01:17 PM (kw6LA)

10 Wise union officials and member draw upon a richness of experience that gives them the ability to divine the nature of an ad they've never seen. This is something non-union teabaggers lack.

Posted by: Blogluddite at May 29, 2009 01:18 PM (fDWFP)

11 ACORN, SEIU, the Black Panthers and of course the media. Welcome to Barry's brave new world.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 29, 2009 01:19 PM (1Jaio)

12 They are a big part of "What's The Matter With California", as they have a strangehold on the state government.

The same is true in pretty much every closed shop state. Demanding endless raises, in good times and in bad, and willing to protest at the drop of a hat.

It's not that they think money grows on trees, it's that they don't care where the money comes from. It's all ME ME ME ME ME ME. Pathetic children.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 29, 2009 01:19 PM (kw6LA)

In a just world these thugs would be prosecuted for extortion.

Posted by: Vic at May 29, 2009 01:21 PM (BYokb)

"Levana Layendecker [which is German, I believe, for "I'm a lefty fuckhead"], the online campaigns director for Health Care for America Now", has an boring, but instructive personal: Kick me, I'm a Commie Retard!

Ms. Layendecker also worships at the Church of Obama, clearly, as indicated by this retarded poster she's put up at her website: Obama, President of Awesome!

Somehow I don't think her O-worship and obviously deficient photoshop skillz will discredit her as much as they should, in a sane world.

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Posted by: Sharkman at May 29, 2009 01:27 PM (OcxlV)

16 So we've got the SEIU playing the part of the SA, (Sitonassundstuffeln), the Black Panthers as the SS (Sticksundstarenatvoteren), who gets to be the Gestapo?

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17 "Levana Layendecker [which is German, I believe, for "I'm a lefty fuckhead"], the online campaigns director for Health Care for America Now", has an boring, but instructive personal: Kick me, I'm a Commie Retard!

Behold: The mind of a liberal fascist.

"If Rick Scott wants to go on a news program and present his position based on the merits of his argument, that’s fine. I defend his right to do that."

...

"I don’t think that the public airwaves should be used to trick people into thinking that a guarantee of quality, affordable health care is bad."

Her cognitive dissonance must be reaching critical mass proportions.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 29, 2009 01:29 PM (kw6LA)

I think that the Chrysler dealership closings might be instructional in this case. If the station did not contribute to the Obama campaign, they should probably worry.

Just a thought.

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Posted by: Lee at May 29, 2009 01:35 PM (TxTIh)

Might be fun if some enterprising reporter asked the President if agreed with the goon tactics of one of his biggest supporters.

Of course he does.

Posted by: Jay at May 29, 2009 01:37 PM (/ZX77)

to trick people into thinking that a guarantee of quality, affordable health care is bad."

Wow.

I'm not so sure government rationing leads to "quality" given that it has to this point never done so in the history of mankind.

These leftists are an embarrassment to America.

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Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2009 01:42 PM (IhQuA)

That high? Really?

Make it a 2. I rule out 1 because they don't openly wave communist banners, but damn, it's borderline.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 29, 2009 01:48 PM (ujg0T)

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Posted by: Blazer at May 29, 2009 01:51 PM (+FzLa)

26 ACORN doesn't really have any footsoldiers. Who the heck would pay them? All they have are the employees they can convince to work for their wages, of which they will take you to court if you try to ask them to pay the living wage they want others to pay.

SEIU members are the footsoldiers. They are the ones with jobs with wages negotiated by SEIU leadership in their withdrawls from the taxpayer's treasury.

They are one in the same effectively. Legally they are separate. The big problem is the SEIU cannot get taxpayer money directly. ACORN can. It does.

I talk to my Obama friends about ACORN and the SEIU. They tell me to shut up. They don't want to hear about it. They're not Democrats. They're Leninists. They just don't know it yet.

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Posted by: chemjeff at May 29, 2009 02:00 PM (kw6LA)

who needs the FCC when you've got ACORN brown-shirts and Union thugs to do your dirty work.

nothing like the smell of Facism on a sunday morning

Posted by: shoey at May 29, 2009 02:12 PM (IRh55)

The FEC is going to do its job? The Justice Dept just told its staff to STFU regarding Black Panthers who intimidated voters in Philadelphia during the election.

Obama's SS can't be guilty of violating the law, they were only obeying orders.

America is becoming Zimbabwe.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at May 29, 2009 02:27 PM (B8gqF)

31 And best of all, medical practices that contributed to the Republicans will all be shut down!

Posted by: Rahm Emanuel at May 29, 2009 02:32 PM (iafWn)

"This is a strange defense, though. If CPR can't run an honest ad about single payer; why is it running an ad at all?"

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 29, 2009 01:15 PM

Sure, and if you object to a warrantless search of your home it must be because you have something to hide. I'll spell it out for you, just because SEIU asserts that the ad is dishonest does not make it true. A claim that the ad is not subject to "truth in advertising" is not evidence that the ad is dishonest, any more than refusing to consent to a search is evidence that you are hiding something.

Learn some basic fucking logic doofus.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at May 29, 2009 02:43 PM (ACDor)

33 Obviously, everyone here is not smart enough to understand this. My Uncle, a retired county prosecutor, explained this to me earlier in the week. It goes like this:

"All Western nations have nationalized health care, just like they have nationalized auto industries. In fact, that's why people from all over the world go to Europe when they need surgeries.."

When I asked about people from Canada who come to Michigan for their ailments, I was told that rarely, if ever, happened, and if you see any Canadian license plates in a hospital parking lot they are visiting someone. I did not bother pointing out all the foreign leaders who have been treated here, since it would have spiked his blood pressure and he might have dropped dead on me.

Did I mention that said retired Uncle is a communist?

Posted by: shibumi at May 29, 2009 03:19 PM (OKZrE)

34 ACORN was founded by the founder of SEIU and his brother. Curmudgeon (second commenter), are you in health care? SEIU represents the nurses in our hospital. Originally, we were represented by our state nursing association for bargaining. After a bad contract many moons ago, some brilliant bozos thought we needed to have a real union representing us. There were 2 unions that were vying for the spot. One was a nursing union that had been around for a while and had a history of only representing nurses. The other was SEIU which was trying to make its emergence into the health care arena (prior to that they represented mostly service workers). It was a hotly contested and close election. SEIU won under suspicious circumstances and instances of outright threats and thuggery. We started out as an open shop, (thank God, so some of us our non union), however, several years ago, we became a closed shop and all new hires have to join the Union. It truly sucks!

Posted by: runningrn at May 29, 2009 03:25 PM (aC/SY)

Curmudgeon (second commenter), are you in health care?

I work for DHCS, but as a bean counter.When SEIU took over representing state workers from the liberal (but at least sane) American Federation of State County and Muni Employees (AFSCME), I knew I was going to need more "Tums" on some work days.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 29, 2009 03:42 PM (ujg0T)

36 I feel your pain, Curmudgeon. We (well, the informed) were just apalled that nurses were going to be represented by Teamster thugs.

Posted by: runningrn at May 29, 2009 04:17 PM (aC/SY)

37 More Union Thuggery?

I got a call yesterday from some union guy who went thru some schpeel push poll 'question' with the jist "surely you support unions" and would I like to show that support by purchasing space on their newsletter?

"Uh, no thanks, my advertizing budget doesn't work that way so I'm not interested at this time." Not too far in the back of my mind was if I say the wrong thing, I'll could end up on some union hit list. Then again, perhaps I'm already on that hit list and this was a "polite" call to let me know they've got my number if I ever get too hard and heavy on right wing/health care political debate...?

Or perhaps it's just an innocent call. I'm just glad I don't run some big 3 car dealership.

Posted by: drfredc at May 29, 2009 04:27 PM (ljMiA)

We already know Obama supports thuggish union behavior. Remember those workers from the shutdown factory who staged a sit-in and were cheered on by Obama? He came squarely against the rule of law that day, just as he has done at every opportunity to date.

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