Swarthy, Indonesian-Educated Man Threatens Crowd at Hotel Auditorium: "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet!"

Dropping in a terrorist joke in the headline, so maybe I'll be mentioned on O'Reilly. I mean, they didn't even call Obama "Hussein" and still O'Reilly claimed they did.

And plus, Allah wrote the same headline I would have, so I have to go somewhere else.

Obama arrogantly ticks off all of his "accomplishments' -- mostly small-bore stuff. The credit card thing? It seems basically good, from what I know of it, but generally such bills are considered housekeeping measures, not major political victories.

He doesn't mention his greatest accomplishment -- spending the once-mighty US economy into ruin.

More at Hot Air. He also didn't mention his heroic fight to keep gay marriage illegal.

Posted by: Ace at 03:29 PM

Comments

1 Well, he DOES look like Al Jolson in that clip...

/Obligatory

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 28, 2009 03:31 PM (Z5NTL)

Did it start off with him saying, "Let me whip this out"?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 03:32 PM (MB+jN)

3 The credit card thing? It seems basically good, from what I know of it, but generally such bills are considered housekeeping measures, not major political victories.

This is part of the problem. People who pay their CC bills will be paying higher rates and lose their rewards programs because politicians think those that don't are penalized too much.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 03:33 PM (IhQuA)

4 his secret service attacked a black woman too!

Posted by: rancho at May 28, 2009 03:39 PM (NegFp)

5 Lorien, yeah, but what about increasing the interest rate without warning on a balance already accumulated?

I borrow at 10%, then it's raised to 12%? Retroactively? Fine if you want to make me pay that on new debt; but on the debt I already accumulated at the 10% rate?

Yes, I know the contract specifies this. The contracts say they can do whatever they like. But that's kind of a problem.

In law, these are called "contracts of adhesion." No one really negotiates these things. They are take-it-or-leave-it propositions. In such cases I don't think it's a bad thing for the government to set the ground rules and to avoid unfair surprise on the part of borrowers.

Anyway, the bigger point is that wherever you come out on this, it's a pretty small bit of legislation. But Obama gropes at "accomplishments" apart from spending the nation into ruin.

Posted by: ace at May 28, 2009 03:40 PM (gEsIJ)

6 "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet!"
Jennifer Granholm kept promising that in all her 8 years as Gov.

So far, she has kept to her word.. There's been nothing yet.

Posted by: Barack O. at May 28, 2009 03:40 PM (FBytr)

7 I love the headline for sure, but I just cannot click to watch the vid. I'm already so tired of him and just 4 months into his term...gonna need more xanax.

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 03:40 PM (cxzu3)

8 er, uh, not that black woman. this one

Posted by: rancho at May 28, 2009 03:41 PM (NegFp)

9 0bama: Thug in chief

Posted by: jett at May 28, 2009 03:41 PM (UYngt)

10
Well the people at that fundraiser all have enough money to not have to worry about the cost of all this. So of course this radical social change is exciting to them.

As a side note, it seems that Obama is starting to get better at delivering a speech w/o a teleprompter. (Assuming he didn't have one there; didn't seem like he did).

Posted by: dan-O at May 28, 2009 03:43 PM (teb/C)

11 Dood should not have a hand in the car business , other than selling used ones .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 28, 2009 03:43 PM (d0YiG)

12 For sure, I ain't seen nothing yet. It's not less that nothing, either. I've been calling it "worse than nothing."

I cannot agree on the credit card ploy. This is a step in a certain direction. After some further discontent, further steps will be taken. Having had government as an educator and financier, now you'll get to try it as your landlord and car-builder; certainly having it as your credit-debt holder can't be a great jump from there.

Pay up. sucka. Bottom rail on top now.

Posted by: comatus at May 28, 2009 03:44 PM (XTm8J)

13 I have not yet begun to blight.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 03:44 PM (MB+jN)

14 Historians will shake their heads at how this vain Marxist shit-for-brains became President.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 03:44 PM (7iWfE)

15 Cyn I'm with you. I can't watch anymore and it's getting harder to listen to sound bites on the radio.

Posted by: Trish at May 28, 2009 03:45 PM (0U5Kd)

16 TSUCOTUS .......

The stand up comic of the U.S. ....... one of you morons can probably work COITUS in there better than I .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 28, 2009 03:46 PM (d0YiG)

17 14 Historians will shake their heads at how this vain Marxist shit-for-brains became President.

Historians will make up excuses for how this idiot failed so miserably and say that Bush screwed him by leaving him with such a mess to clean up.

It'll be like reading an FDR biography.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 28, 2009 03:47 PM (Z5NTL)

18 "Community Organizer Immolates The United States"?

Posted by: Keith Arnold at May 28, 2009 03:47 PM (Jdtsu)

19 I thought (for a second) Ace had posted porn. I could have sworn I saw a dick with ears.

Posted by: maddogg at May 28, 2009 03:48 PM (OlN4e)

20 I love the headline for sure, but I just cannot click to watch the vid. I'm already so tired of him and just 4 months into his term...gonna need more xanax.

I totally agree. As soon as I see his face knowing he's about to speak I'm already desperately gravitating towards my surroundings hoping to find the remote. CAN'T STAND the guy. To think that for a moment during the inauguration I actually thought and hoped I would give the guy a chance but the sheer arrogance of this man's being is despicable.

P.S. I'll be taking valium as the Rx of my choice to keep me numb for the next 3 1/2 years. Or maybe til 2010 depending on how things turn out.

Posted by: TiNa48 at May 28, 2009 03:50 PM (rcAOq)

21 If you do watch it, you will find that it's probably worse than you thought. that's why I posted it, really. It's pretty upsetting to see this asshole jack-ass around with such swagger and get applause for ruining the economy.

Posted by: ace at May 28, 2009 03:52 PM (gEsIJ)

22 I have spent more of others people's money in less time and for less return than any other person in history!

Posted by: The Won at May 28, 2009 03:54 PM (xxgag)

23 @21

He's so friggin' arrogant.

Posted by: jett at May 28, 2009 03:54 PM (UYngt)

I can't watch the act, its too depressing. The president jive taking an audience like some horrible lounge act. Very unbecoming for the president, but he's set the bar to a new low so what the hell. Did he do any material? make any special olympics wisecracks?

Rush played one clip today where he said something like "I want her to go in there and start making some justice" referring to Sotomayor. gee mr. President, what justice are you talking about? you think there can never be justice unless there is a racist latina on the court?

Posted by: exceller at May 28, 2009 03:55 PM (jx2Td)

25 Nope, sorry Ace, I usually watch the videos you post, but like most others here (and nationwide, I suspect) I cannot stand looking or listening to him. His arrogance and vapidness make my blood boil.

Posted by: IC at May 28, 2009 03:56 PM (jZNCU)

26 I have spent more of others people's money in less time and for less return than any other person in history!

Obviously, you need to meet any number of my ex's.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 28, 2009 03:56 PM (SHHaV)

27 I preferred this when it was called the Jerry Lewis Telethon.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at May 28, 2009 03:56 PM (TXp3z)

8 er, uh, not that black woman. this one

Half of me knows that they all look the same - I thought it was my wife, too.

Posted by: Obama's crack pipe at May 28, 2009 03:57 PM (pMzfB)

29 You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet !

Heh, we've seen plenty,........ now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox.

Posted by: Kim Jong il, Mahmoud Acmedinejad, Hugo Chavez at May 28, 2009 03:57 PM (+FzLa)

That's just a hologram. Teh real Husayn Barack Obama is at Mount Weather preparing for the Great Doom of June 2009.

O/T -- with the Virginia Democratic Primary coming up, seeing how McDonnell has the Republican nod, I'm thinking Operation CHAOS -- who should I vote for to sabotage the race? Would a write-in be appropriate?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 28, 2009 03:59 PM (XoYY8)

31 Can we question his patriotism now?

Posted by: jett at May 28, 2009 04:00 PM (UYngt)

32 I preferred this when it was called the Jerry Lewis Telethon.

Me too, however I understand he calls this Trolling For Dollars.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:00 PM (+FzLa)

33 I got the same impression as you ace. It's one to piss of the world like Bush did. They were pissed off already (and who wants to befriend a bunch of dictators anyways). It's another to cripple our economy for a decade or more to come. That is inexcusable.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at May 28, 2009 04:00 PM (OkrJ4)

34 Funny thing about that HotAir link...

O'Reilly went on the defensive a while back when some nutjob in TN went on a killing spree (can't remember what for) and they found a copy of one of his books in the perp's living room. His defense was you can't hold him responsible for what a nutjob, who happened to read his book, does.

I guess O'Reilly thinks that standard doesn't apply to blogs. The blog author/owner is now responsible for any comments nutjobs post as a visitor to their site.

Ace... You're screwed!

Posted by: Tiny Bubbles at May 28, 2009 04:00 PM (x+CVT)

And now we know that the commiecrats are considering a VAT. LOL, another election promise under the bus.

Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2009 04:01 PM (BYokb)

36 A good comedian will make you laugh till' you shit your pant's.

I just shit my pants, but it wasn't from laughing.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:03 PM (+FzLa)

37 Took Ace's advice and saw the video.

My soul weeps and needs a shoulder to cry on.

"California, you ain't seen nothing yet!" Doubt they'll see anything. It is the policies of blind ideologues like him that has the state bankrupt.

Posted by: TiNa48 at May 28, 2009 04:03 PM (rcAOq)

38 This is seriously beyond scary! I mean, there are no words that can adequately describe the fear I have for this country, and the world if we go down. I keep trying to imagine how my kids are going to live and survive this impending doom. I have no solutions, and no answers. IF the GOP would get there act together people would not feel so much despair, but they cannot and will not. I guess the only real benefit of all this is that families will become closer, and perhaps, just once in their lifetimes, some on the Left will finally realize why we love America and our democracy/republic so very much.

Posted by: freeus at May 28, 2009 04:05 PM (zxRJP)

39 Unfortunatley, I didn't listen to the little voice inside my head that said, " Blaze, don't watch it, don't do it to yourself man. "

Now I could just smack a bitch.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:10 PM (+FzLa)

40 "He doesn't mention his greatest accomplishment -- spending the once-mighty US economy into ruin."

I don't think Obama should take credit for George W. Bush's biggest accomplishment.

At the very least, Obama is spending money on US...whereas Bush, err, threw about 1 trillion to the Iraqis.

I'll take a President spending crazy on Americans over Iraqis anyday...but I know most AoSers would prefer Obama spend money on Iraq.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:12 PM (VDj74)

41 But remember, if you make under $250K a year, you'll actually see your taxes DECREASE!

The most blatant campaign lie in history.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:13 PM (fWF4Q)

I've said it before but it bears repeating - FUCK OBAMA.

It's therapeutic.

Posted by: Gravity Dick at May 28, 2009 04:14 PM (ewXBY)

43 whether you are a republican or a democrat, this is a very funny headline,

Posted by: muffy at May 28, 2009 04:15 PM (zplc6)

44 "But remember, if you make under $250K a year, you'll actually see your taxes DECREASE!

The most blatant campaign lie in history."

Did he ever say when he was going to cut taxes? I don't remember him specifying a time. If he doesn't do it by the time he's out of office, THEN you can call him a liar. Until then, he hasn't lied at all.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:16 PM (VDj74)

Hmm. $1-trillion over 7 years. $3-trillion over 100 days. Yeah. That sure looks like Bush's fault. (Especially with the Dems owning Congress for the past two years.)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 04:16 PM (MB+jN)

46 "whether you are a republican or a democrat, this is a very funny headline,"

not really, and I'm neither republican or democrat

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:17 PM (VDj74)

47 palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:12 PM (VDj74)

Once again. Obama didn't descend from the heavens and become president. He supported everything that Bush signed, since he's been, you know, a senator for 2 years prior to election.

Try not be retarded, okay?

At the very least, Obama is spending money on US

You're right. Imaginary money here is better than imaginary money elsewhere. Impeccable.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:17 PM (IhQuA)

48 Well, from the looks of the comments, I'm glad I didn't click after all--That moron peer pressure and all. I seriously cannot stand this jackass and am still reeling that a majority of our country was so blind to his suave bullshit that they voted for him. Are they Pod People and we Morons are the only one's left that see this shit?? I live in terror that one day we'll see Ace do this to all of us morons.

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 04:18 PM (cxzu3)

49 Hmm. $1-trillion over 7 years. $3-trillion over 100 days. Yeah. That sure looks like Bush's fault. (Especially with the Dems owning Congress for the past two years.)

umm, Obama hasn't spent anywhere near 3 trillion...not sure where you got that number from.

Also, I love how the past 8 years are all dems fault because they had congress in the last 2 years...apparently Bush and GOP controlling congress for 6 years cannot get anything done.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:19 PM (VDj74)

50 I don't think Obama should take credit for George W. Bush's biggest accomplishment.

P/S, we were all over Bush for spending like a drunken sailor. But what Obama is doing is so many levels of magnitude above what Bush did that it's incomprehensible.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:19 PM (fWF4Q)

51 Plain Steel, did your Mom drop you on your head on purpose. I mean what the fuck is up with that anyway?

Posted by: Gravity Dick at May 28, 2009 04:19 PM (ewXBY)

52 At the very least, Obama is spending money on US...whereas Bush, err, threw about 1 trillion to the Iraqis.

Heres a newsflash for ya' sweepea. He ain't spendin' it on you. He's spending it on big labor and the factions that got him elected. He's using our dollars to reward the faithful and expand government control over everyones lives and livlihood..

He's blown more money in 4 months than Bush did in eight years, and every president before him combined.

And that ain't our money petunia, that money belongs to the Chinese.

Get back to us in a year when all that spending has improved your life in the least little fashion, then you can flap your gums.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:19 PM (+FzLa)

53 palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:16 PM (VDj74)

Dumbass, it was promised as part of the stimulus plan. That was the "tax cut" which really is just an advance on your refund for the following year. Which will have to be paid back. Geesh.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:19 PM (IhQuA)

54 "I seriously cannot stand this jackass and am still reeling that a majority of our country was so blind to his suave bullshit that they voted for him."

Our country elected Bush...twice. What would surprise you after that? Oh yeah, electing a man who can pronounce multisyllabic words.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:20 PM (VDj74)

55 palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:20 PM (VDj74)

You mean he can read them off his teleprompter. Let's be honest.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:21 PM (IhQuA)

56 Did he ever say when he was going to cut taxes?

What ? You didn't notice that extra $ 13 dollars on your paycheck ?

Me neither.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:22 PM (+FzLa)

57 It's tough to tell when its really palin steele and when soneone is just playing the dumbass and using a sockpuppet.

Posted by: maddogg at May 28, 2009 04:23 PM (OlN4e)

58 Our country elected Bush...twice. What would surprise you after that? Oh yeah, electing a man who can pronounce multisyllabic words.

Ah, break out the old "Bush is stupid" lib canard. I see what you did there.....

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:23 PM (fWF4Q)

59 "Once again. Obama didn't descend from the heavens and become president. He supported everything that Bush signed, since he's been, you know, a senator for 2 years prior to election." - Lorien

Yet Obama is a socialist-marxist-stalinist-Nazi thug....even though he supported everything Bush did? Wow Bush must've been quite the Marxist himself then...wonder how many times you guys called bush a socialist...

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:23 PM (VDj74)

60 I see pukingly sycophantic has gone full retard.

Still holding out for that balanced budget in 2012, fuckwit?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 04:24 PM (7iWfE)

61 palin steele at 54: you are not worthy of engagement and are tiresome.

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 04:24 PM (cxzu3)

62 "I seriously cannot stand this jackass and am still reeling that a majority of our country was so blind to his suave bullshit that they voted for him."

Every generation must learn the hard way not to touch the stove.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 28, 2009 04:24 PM (kIjlp)

63 #40 Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:12 PM (VDj74) - Just another one who will be "shown to the border" when the time comes.

Posted by: teej at May 28, 2009 04:24 PM (QdUKm)

64
I think that with this speech, Obama is showing his weakness: arrogance. There has been plenty of pushback against his policies that wasn't really there when he was elected. If he responded to this by slowing down his agenda, he could probably manage to maintain his popularity. But the more he pushes and the more radical the "change" gets, the more people will push back, and his popularity will suffer. It seems that he doesn't understand this fact. He seems to think that he will always have the popularity and support that he enjoyed for the first couple months of his presidency. Reminds me of the story of Icarus and makes me wonder if he will have the restraint to not fly too high.

Posted by: dan-O at May 28, 2009 04:24 PM (teb/C)

65 Hahhahahhahhah Have you seen drudge's headline? The picture is worth a thousand words, lol. http://www.drudgereport.com/

Posted by: muffy at May 28, 2009 04:26 PM (zplc6)

It's tough to tell when its really palin steele and when soneone is just playing the dumbass and using a sockpuppet.--maddogg

It's the real deal--the hash gives it/he/she away: "palin steele (VDj74)". I'm just not going to waste my time with it.

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 04:26 PM (cxzu3)

67 not really, and I'm neither republican or democrat

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:17 PM (VDj74

You're absolutely right. You're nothing.

Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2009 04:26 PM (m2CN7)

68 Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:23 PM (VDj74)

Glad you agree that Obama is responsible for the spending and deficits we currently have. It's a step in the right direction.

Next time you blame Bush for the deficits, I'm sure you'll remember this. Correct?

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:26 PM (IhQuA)

69 palin steele

You are a lightweight.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at May 28, 2009 04:27 PM (OkrJ4)

70 It's tough to tell when its really palin steele and when soneone is just playing the dumbass and using a sockpuppet.

After the election, all of the astrosturfers at Axelrod inc., decided just to consolidate all of their thousands of sockpuppets into palin steele.

Less confusing that way.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:27 PM (+FzLa)

71 the fact is Obama is more bi-partisan than bush ever was...

keeping sec gates on (who is now very supportive of obama)

having great relationship with petraeus (who supports closing gitmo)

nominating a republican for treasury

nominating a republican for a great ambassadorship

of course you guys will dismiss everything with oh they're rinos or some likewise bullshit, but fail to realize that Bush never even did half that with even conservative democrats

but let's keep on with the Obama is the socialist devil meme...its far more entertaining than acknowledging him to be the moderate who has pissed off the left as much as the right in trying to do the right thing

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:27 PM (VDj74)

72 muffy at May 28, 2009 04:26 PM (zplc6)

Yeah, but read the story. Reporter was kinda askin' for it.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:27 PM (IhQuA)

73 #65 - the headline on Drudge is hilarious...the picture of a green Pelosi is just plain scary.

Posted by: IC at May 28, 2009 04:28 PM (jZNCU)

74 he's going to crash and burn, most are sick to death of the dude after four months. imagine after a couple years of this arrogance, especially when the economy never really recovers and the domestic programs become a nightmare. lets' see him rally the crowds then.

Posted by: exceller at May 28, 2009 04:28 PM (jx2Td)

the picture of a green Pelosi is just plain scary.

Huh; I thought that was an unretouched pic of Nanny. My bad.

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 04:29 PM (cxzu3)

76 palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:27 PM (VDj74)

On what planet is consolidating power in un-elected officials in DC while nationalizing industries considered moderate?

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:30 PM (IhQuA)

77 but fail to realize that Bush never even did half that with even conservative democrats

You're a lying sack of shit. That's a fucking lie, you fucking liar. Fuck off, and come back when you've actually learned something, you tiresome Obama-fellator.

A 'moderate' does not plan to rack up trillion-dollar deficits for ten years, you fucking imbecile.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 04:30 PM (7iWfE)

78 The more he says, the more I hope he fails.

Posted by: bunny boy at May 28, 2009 04:30 PM (YsSn7)

79 he's going to crash and burn, most are sick to death of the dude after four months.

Of course he'll crash and burn. Unfortunatly he's the pilot of American Scarelines and we're on his plane.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:31 PM (+FzLa)

80 Reminds me of the story of Icarus and makes me wonder if he will have the restraint to not fly too high.

Posted by: dan-O at May 28, 2009 04:24 PM (teb/C)

Your words give me a glimmer of hope!*

_{*well, that and another Val-U-Rite on the rocks, but I think you get my drift--thanks!}

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 04:32 PM (cxzu3)

81 I heard after he said "you ain't seen anything yet" he lifted his leg and let out a long, loud, fart and then said "kiss my ass everyone".

Posted by: Sparky at May 28, 2009 04:34 PM (J1f2W)

82 Don't forget "Those five days in April" that the one waxed on about at the Naval Academy commencement.

Posted by: jukin at May 28, 2009 04:34 PM (vkkNZ)

83 I see Drudge is running a photo of Nancy Pelosi during her China visit. Evidently after witnessing firsthand China's totalitarian government and crackdown on dissenters, she's become green with envy.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:37 PM (+FzLa)

Taken literally, his statement is true.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 04:38 PM (B+qrE)

85 :"72 muffy at May 28, 2009 04:26 PM (zplc6)

Yeah, but read the story. Reporter was kinda askin' for it.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:27 PM (IhQuA)"

I just thought the picture was priceless.

Posted by: muffy at May 28, 2009 04:40 PM (zplc6)

but let's keep on with the Obama is the socialist devil meme

And your descriptor for his health care plan is what exactly?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 04:41 PM (B+qrE)

87 Maria Bartiromo is going to Russia. timmaay is going to China. Big week coming up.

Posted by: muffy at May 28, 2009 04:42 PM (zplc6)

88 and not a Republican or Blue Dog Dem, supposedly fiscally conservative, is saying a word about the spending. but, we can count on Orrin Hatch to fight like a lion on things that really matter.

Posted by: ed at May 28, 2009 04:44 PM (Urhve)

89 but let's keep on with the Obama is the socialist devil meme...its far more entertaining than acknowledging him to be the moderate who has pissed off the left as much as the right in trying to do the right thing

He pissed off the left on certain issues only because he had no choice. Close Gitmo? Dem congress won't allocate the money, and nobody wants the prisoners in their state. Ending "Don't ask, don't tell?" The generals, wary of a liberal Dem by nature, would go berserk at what it would do to morale. Fairness Doctrine? If there's a better way to energize a moribund Republican party, I don't know what it is.

On the issues where he could get away with it, he's been off the charts liberal.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:46 PM (fWF4Q)

90 What a fucking ego. Hubris is a bitch, Barry, and it's gonna fuck you soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2009 04:46 PM (VW9/y)

91 "And your descriptor for his health care plan is what exactly?"

Doing for healthcare what Americans already have for education. You do realize we already have something called public schools...that offer FREE education to kids...subsidized by TAXES. Is that also socialist? Is healthcare any less necessary than education?

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:46 PM (VDj74)

92 oing for healthcare what Americans already have for education. You do realize we already have something called public schools...that offer FREE education to kids..

Yeah, and ain't that going well?

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:49 PM (fWF4Q)

93 "He pissed off the left on certain issues only because he had no choice." - Ombudsman

well, if you want to rationalize it like that, then there is literally NOTHING Obama could do that would please you.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:49 PM (VDj74)

94 Brandon @17, well-said (and it's hard to improve on Marxist shit-for-brains!).
Sickening and hilarious at the same time. How fitting to the occasion.

Posted by: comatus at May 28, 2009 04:50 PM (XTm8J)

95 Doing for healthcare what Americans already have for education. You do realize we already have something called public schools...that offer FREE education to kids...subsidized by TAXES. Is that also socialist? Is healthcare any less necessary than education?

You do realize that our education system is constantly decried as failing and insufficient, and always in need of more more more more money....and this is your recommendation for socialized medicine??

Posted by: nickless at May 28, 2009 04:50 PM (MMC8r)

96 And I have no doubt socialized Obamacare will dispense the same high-quality medical care that government-run public education does in the schooling arena.

Res ipso loquitur.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at May 28, 2009 04:50 PM (Jdtsu)

Maria Bartiromo is going to Russia

Any chance they will keep her there?

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 04:51 PM (QMGr1)

98 The "credit card thing" is far from good. It's an abhorrent continuation of Obama and the progressive's inability to understand risk management. Consider, why in the world should we charge a 15-time drunk driving teen-age male who's had 5 crashes in the past year and killed three teen passengers any more than one of the Ace of Spades adult drivers with nothing on their record in the past decade other than a speeding ticket (usually from a speed trap revenue generation effort)?

The credit card act moves to diminish the capacity for drivers to be charged differently for insurance, in this analogy. It creates price controls on how much issuing banks can charge for the risk taken. The result will either be the socialization of costs (gosh, haven't we heard of that concept before with Obama?) or the elimination of risk. I'm aware of both underway at issuing banks.

Pay your balance off on time every month? Good by. Get lost. You represent a statistical risk to the issuer (e.g. you suddenly lose your job, run up your balance and default). You're not paying them to take that risk. Take a hike. Forget about those with any credit blemishes. Troubles on the home loan for a few months? You're screwed, unless you want one of those deadbeat guaranteed balance credit cards that also charges you $25/month for the privilege of having one.

Sure, you can shift to debit. I hope you're ready for the additional risk you bear with that. Unlike your credit card, you're on the hook for much of your potential loss to fraud, and worse yet, have much greater burdon of proof to demonstrate you were fraudulantly impacted. Switch to check? Same risk. Cash? Good luck with that outside of your local community.

Obama's move is just another way to throw bricks into the machine of commerce, causing it all to break down so he can be there to "rescue" us along with his good friends from ACORN.

Posted by: HatlessHessian at May 28, 2009 04:51 PM (7r7wy)

99 "Yeah, and ain't that going well?"

Well, I haven't heard of parents petitioning the government to eliminate offering free public education...so I guess it's ok, of course its not perfect.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:51 PM (VDj74)

100 The headline is sweet. The teleprompter is in constant campaign mode. I, like others here am not watching the video. It's obvious it's another I-Hope-I-Can-Get-All-Your-Change Show - When does the next leg of the apology tour start?

Posted by: paranoid polly at May 28, 2009 04:51 PM (YLNjm)

101 that offer FREE education to kids...subsidized by TAXES. Is that also socialist? Is healthcare any less necessary than education?

Hey stupid. It ain't free if somebodies payin' for it. What do you think free healthcare will run on anyway, Gods own methane ?

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:52 PM (+FzLa)

102 well, if you want to rationalize it like that, then there is literally NOTHING Obama could do that would please you.

That's not a rationalization. It's a fact. And besides resigning, or adopting conservative positions on the issues, yes, there's nothing he could do to please me.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:52 PM (fWF4Q)

103 Can you believe this is the same guy that edited the Harvard Law Review?

We now know more about Barack Obama's 100 days as President than we do about his 2 years at Columbia and his 3 years at Harvard Law School.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 04:52 PM (GtYrq)

104 palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:51 PM (VDj74)

School vouchers is really a concept you've never herad of it? You know, that thing that parents -love- but politicians will not let them have.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:53 PM (IhQuA)

105 Well, I haven't heard of parents petitioning the government to eliminate offering free public education...so I guess it's ok, of course its not perfect.

They have. It's called tuition vouchers. How can parochial schools do a much better job for half the money?

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 04:53 PM (fWF4Q)

106 "You do realize that our education system is constantly decried as failing and insufficient, and always in need of more more more more money....and this is your recommendation for socialized medicine??"

Free education is not perfect and no one would claim such but public schools is still better than no schools. Without it, a huge number of kids would not be able to even get basic education...you do realize not all families are rich like yours and can afford to send their kids to 20,000 a year K-12 programs, right?

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:54 PM (VDj74)

107

Doing for healthcare what Americans already have for education. You do realize we already have something called public schools...that offer FREE education to kids...subsidized by TAXES. Is that also socialist? Is healthcare any less necessary than education?

READ SLOWLY, MORON:

Health care is one-seventh of the economy. Education expenditures are less than half that AT ALL LEVELS and is still largely state-based, genius. Missing in your oh-so-easy-ain't-it-great description is how to pay for it on top of all the other crap he has put in motion.

And if you don't recognize the asshatted irony in your first sentence in bold above, you are beyond help.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 04:54 PM (B+qrE)

108 Well, I haven't heard of parents petitioning the government to eliminate offering free public education...so I guess it's ok, of course its not perfect.

Free education is homescooling provided by a parent, which is very high quality. Guess what, your messiah want's to shut that down.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:54 PM (+FzLa)

109 "And besides resigning, or adopting conservative positions on the issues, yes, there's nothing he could do to please me." - ombudsman

Well, even when he has taken conservative stances (has Bush ever taken a liberal stance?), you just say he had no choice or some other bull faeces.

So his only way to satisfy you is to resign apparently...or commit seppuku.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:56 PM (VDj74)

110

Heh. That is exactly right dumbass. I assume you are a product of said public schools? Yes, I expect health care to drop to equivalent levels of effectiveness.

Posted by: maddogg at May 28, 2009 04:56 PM (OlN4e)

111 "They have. It's called tuition vouchers. How can parochial schools do a much better job for half the money?"

And where does the government magically get money to give as tuition vouchers to parents? tell me its not taxes, because that would be socialistic.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:57 PM (VDj74)

112 HatlessHessian: I think we need to send the Gekko or the Caveman to Washington to explain insurance to the President.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 04:57 PM (GtYrq)

113 well, if you want to rationalize it like that, then there is literally NOTHING Obama could do that would please you.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:49 PM (VDj74)

He could resign. I would be pleased. More than pleased. Ecstatic. Euphoric. So fucking happy I could just shit. Of course, Broadway Joe would have to resign also to make me really, really happy. Of course, chances of either are slim and none. But there's alway hope. And change.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 04:57 PM (QMGr1)

114 palin steele. I challenge you to name one institution that is/has been effectivly run by the government that isn't a boondoggle and costed oodles of cash.

The military doesn't count, their not union.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 04:58 PM (+FzLa)

115 "Free education is homescooling provided by a parent, which is very high quality. Guess what, your messiah want's to shut that down."

yes, because it's realistic to assume that most kids have the luxury of a loving and educated parent who can homeschool them. most kids also have parents who can shit skittles and pee kool-aid.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:58 PM (VDj74)

116

Yes, I have to admit I dropped little Palin on his head several times. The doctors even tried putting that little coconut of a head in a vice; didn't help. You have to remember this was a time when although abortions were legal sometimes they were botched and you got stuck with the little bastard anyway.

Thank God we now have a man of vision in the White House who realizes that abortion on demand should be allowed up to one year after the birth of the child. Hopefully when that sort of legislation is passed women of today will not have to suffer through the pain and misery that I have endured my whole life with this little shit.

Beat him like a pinata for all it's worth, it didn't do me any good.

Posted by: Palin Steele's Mom at May 28, 2009 04:58 PM (ewXBY)

117 palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:46 PM (VDj74)

You do realize, right, that schools are mostly funded with local tax dollars (ie property taxes) and when the feds get involved, it's with unfunded mandates the usually muck up the entire system.

So, in a sense, you are correct. The feds will work that same magic with healthcare.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM (IhQuA)

118

So his only way to satisfy you is to resign apparently...or commit seppuku.

No...he COULD:

A. Rescind the porkulus.

B. Zero capital gains.

C. Put some actual policies in place to get us off the Chavez/Saudi oil jones.

D. Make Joe Biden wear a Bozo nose.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM (B+qrE)

119 Had a dream last night. I saw Bill Clinton in a night club and I went over to shake his hand. I said, "God I miss you, man!"

I am so fucking scared of our future as a nation that I am missing Bill Fucking Clinton.

I miss the days when I dreamt of Zooey Deschanel going to my high school reunion with me.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM (yiNoG)

120 most kids also have parents who can shit skittles and pee kool-aid.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 04:58 PM (VDj74)

Just because your parents were as such, does not imply that others are as well.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM (IhQuA)

121 I've already reached the saturation point with the One. The radio and tv go off when he comes on. I didn't even get this annoyed with Clinton this fast. At least Bill was amusing.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM (iYbLN)

122 has Bush ever taken a liberal stance?

No Child Left Behind was also known as the Club for Growth/American Conservative Union bill. Really.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:00 PM (GtYrq)

123 you do realize not all families are rich like yours and can afford to send their kids to 20,000 a year K-12 programs, right?

Ah, now we're into the straw man arguments. You know nothing about me at all.

But Barry and the elites ARE sending their kids to private schools, just like they will exempt themselves from cattle-car socialized medicine that they will inflict on the rest of us, even those of us who are taking care of our own health insurance.

Posted by: nickless at May 28, 2009 05:01 PM (MMC8r)

124 nd where does the government magically get money to give as tuition vouchers to parents? tell me its not taxes, because that would be socialistic.

Easy. Gradually phase out the public school system. Make all schools private, a business providing a product for a fee. Dump the teachers unions. Give everyone vouchers to purchase the best product possible for the price. And as an added benefit, cut school taxes in half.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 05:01 PM (fWF4Q)

125 At least Bill was amusing.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM (iYbLN)

Hillary wasn't laughing.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 05:02 PM (QMGr1)

126 "B. Zero capital gains."

how the fuck does that help the economy at all?

Let's discourage savings even more by incentivizing people to throw more of their hardearned money into the lottery known as stock market which in the past year has wiped out over 40% of American wealth.

You're a frigging fiscal genius.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:02 PM (VDj74)

127 http://tinyurl.com/njbac9 dan riehl is covering the "reporter being dragged away" story

Posted by: muffy at May 28, 2009 05:02 PM (zplc6)

128 His arrogance and thirst for power will eventually catch up with him...in a bad way. Let's just hope that the damage he incurs on the nation can be reversed.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:03 PM (iYbLN)

129 As an aside, I blame Obama for the exponential increase of poorly trained dogs who love to bark at nothing in my neighborhood. It all happened after January 20, but I am not certain of the actual date.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at May 28, 2009 05:03 PM (yiNoG)

130 "cut school taxes in half." ombudsman

so there would still be school taxes? half socialism is still 100% socialism, riiiiiight??!

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:04 PM (VDj74)

131 At least Bill was amusing.

Bill Clinton was and is charming. He could charm Perez Hilton and Carrie Prejean into a threesome while vetoing a gay marriage bill.

Bill Clinton was a hill billy that questioned his moves. Barack Obama is an academic that's never been peer reviewed.

Nobody has said "No" to Barack. Look where he's gone with it.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:04 PM (GtYrq)

132 yes, because it's realistic to assume that most kids have the luxury of a loving and educated parent who can homeschool them.

Right, some kids don't, but why deny a superior education to those that do ?

Because, then the AEA wouldn't have the chance to sink their liberal teeth into them and indoctrinate them.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 05:05 PM (+FzLa)

133 But Barry and the elites ARE sending their kids to private schools

In all fairness, I'll give Barry this one. First children can't go to public schools for security reasons.

See P/S, there's something positive.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 05:05 PM (fWF4Q)

134

palin steele,

You are monument to economic ignorance. I commend you on your stupidity.

Brava!

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:05 PM (iYbLN)

135 palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:02 PM (VDj74)

You don't even know what the capital gains tax taxes do you?

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 05:05 PM (IhQuA)

136

how the fuck does that help the economy at all?

Let's discourage savings even more by incentivizing people to throw more of their hardearned money into the lottery known as stock market which in the past year has wiped out over 40% of American wealth.

Anyone else want to try...the economic illiteracy and stupid-fu in this one is too strong for me.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 05:06 PM (B+qrE)

137 Let's discourage savings even more by incentivizing people to throw more of their hardearned money into the lottery known as stock market which in the past year has wiped out over 40% of American wealth.

Come on. It's just not possible that you're this fucking stupid and can still breathe.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 05:07 PM (7iWfE)

138

Let's discourage savings even more by incentivizing people to throw more of their hardearned money into the lottery known as stock market which in the past year has wiped out over 40% of American wealth.

Dude, there are other ways to realize capital gains other than the stock market. Ever hear of real estate, bonds, etc. I mean, come on... Never mind. Fuck it.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 05:07 PM (QMGr1)

139 my parents couldn't afford private school...so my only option was public school. and while private schools prob shit on the public schools I attended, they were still good experiences...I had some great teachers and classmates. Public schools are essential for low-income folks who cant affort 20grand a year educations.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:08 PM (VDj74)

140

stupid-fu

I'm writing that one down!!!11ty!!

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 05:09 PM (cxzu3)

141 so there would still be school taxes? half socialism is still 100% socialism, riiiiiight??!

All right... eliminate school taxes, then. But then only people with the wherewithal could send their kids to school. But then you wouldn't like that. All taxation is not socialism. Should everyone have to hire his own army or navy? Pave his own roads?

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 05:09 PM (fWF4Q)

142 "Ever hear of real estate, bonds, etc. I mean, come on... Never mind. Fuck it."

oh yeah, I hear real estate is booming these days....*slaps forehead*

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:10 PM (VDj74)

143 Who is responsible for public education in the United States?

Liberal Protestants.

Who is responsible for opposing school choice vouchers?

Liberal Protestants.

Who is responsible for overturning the anti-Catholic Blaine Amendments that were used to prohibit the implementation of school choice vouchers?

Classical Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox Jews.

Where's Barry? Camp Liberal Protestant. The Rockefellers took one look at Barry and saw themselves.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:10 PM (GtYrq)

144 You do realize not all families are rich like yours and can afford to send their kids to 20,000 a year K-12 programs, right?

They don't have to be. In other enlightened parts of the world that the Left is so happy to use as reference, education funds are attached to the children, not to schools. So if a particular school fails to provide even adequate instruction, the parents can move their kids out which can't be done in the US.

The point, which you seem incapable of grasping, is that our taxpayer system is expensive, inefficient, and inferior compared to the education systems of even poorer countries. We pay a lot more and receive a lot less in return without any reform. Hence some parents opting out. Which I guess in your world is a bad evil thing. All animals should be equal, right?

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 28, 2009 05:11 PM (kIjlp)

145 Thank God for private school, I was light years ahead of my peers. Not everyone could afford it but the school made the effort to offer scholarships to financial hardship cases. No one ever thought any less of them. When I switched to a private Catholic high school I was still two years ahead of the students enrolled.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:11 PM (iYbLN)

146 "All right... eliminate school taxes, then. But then only people with the wherewithal could send their kids to school. But then you wouldn't like that. All taxation is not socialism. Should everyone have to hire his own army or navy? Pave his own roads? " ombudsman

That's my point exactly. There are many things our tax money is spent on that we wouldn't consider socialism. What makes healthcare so unique from education or defense? Healthcare affects the nation in so many aspects as do education and defense spending. My point is be consistent. If you want to call nationalized healthcare socialism, fine...but then label public school socialism as well. Don't pick and choose.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:12 PM (VDj74)

147

Public schools are essential for low-income folks who cant affort 20grand a year educations.

Vouchers would allow more kids to go to quality charter schools and close the gap for more families who want to send their kids to private schools. You live in a world of disquieting absolutes.

And just for the sake of argument on the previous point--remember when Obama stumbled all over himself when Charlie Gibson pointed out that when you cut the capital gains rate, tax collections GO UP--EVERY SINGLE TIME?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 05:12 PM (B+qrE)

148 oh yeah, I hear real estate is booming these days....*slaps forehead*

Slap harder, chuckles. Maybe you should expand your time horizon for investment quality out further than one year.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 05:13 PM (7iWfE)

149 Public schools are essential for low-income folks who cant affort 20grand a year educations.

You already admit it. There is competition in education. Look at the University level. Great advancement, achievement, success. Reason: Fucking Capitalism. You choose where you go. You secure the funding. You take the risk. You are responsible for the rewards you create from the risk.

Now, how do we bring this flexibility to all levels of education? How do we make the 20 grand private school compete with the 5 grand private schools?

I know how to do it. I can tell you the story of 25 families in my neighborhood that did it.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:14 PM (GtYrq)

150 126 "B. Zero capital gains."

how the fuck does that help the economy at all?

Let's discourage savings even more by incentivizing people to throw more of their hardearned money into the lottery known as stock market which in the past year has wiped out over 40% of American wealth.

You're a frigging fiscal genius.

And you're still a fucking moron.

NEXT.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 28, 2009 05:14 PM (vZVv7)

151

oh yeah, I hear real estate is booming these days....*slaps forehead*

And how do you restart investment, sparky?

God, you need to read a little...say for five or six years...and get back to us.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 05:14 PM (B+qrE)

152 I wish there had been a background screen during his speech showing the pictures of the neighborhoods in Chicago that O "organized". That would be what the crowd has yet to see. America the slum.

Posted by: free at May 28, 2009 05:15 PM (cFwGO)

153 "In other enlightened parts of the world that the Left is so happy to use as reference, education funds are attached to the children, not to schools." - Chimney Sweeper

So you would be okay with the government just doling out individual healthcare spending money to each american and allow folks to spend it as they will?

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:15 PM (VDj74)

154 palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:12 PM (VDj74)

Schools, police etal are all locally taxed. Local. Get it? People don't like the taxes, they can move out or in; they keep their choice of schools. They keep their choice of tax rates. Etc.

Nationalizing an industry does not relate to the concept.

I don't feel like I need to explain the concept further.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 05:15 PM (IhQuA)

155 Last time I took a look see at the Constituton healthcare was not a right. The state governments do such a bang up job handling healthcare here in California I can't wait for the feds to stick their hands in this shitpile. No one will come away unscathed.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:15 PM (iYbLN)

156 "And how do you restart investment, sparky?"

maybe we don't need to. Let americans put their money into savings for a change. We don't always have to incentivize people to buy more, spend more in order to artificially spark the economy. those never last anyways. let's be more conservative with our money.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:16 PM (VDj74)

157 What makes healthcare so unique from education or defense?

Because both can be done better by private institutions. And don't bother responding with the canard that the private institutions are the ones responsible for their respective messes. They aren't because we don't have a privately run health care or educational system. Both are mixed messes tied up by either unions or ridiculous layers of regulation and governance.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 28, 2009 05:17 PM (kIjlp)

158 So you would be okay with the government just doling out individual healthcare spending money to each american and allow folks to spend it as they will?

I said attached to the students, not given to the parents. Asshole. Read what I wrote not what you imagine I did.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 28, 2009 05:17 PM (kIjlp)

159
Hey palin-steele, why don't you shut the fuck up and stop trolling here you fucking loser. It is really too bad that your daddy didn't give you enough attention when you were a kid, but please stop hijacking every fucking thread here. You remind me of the fat chick who walks into the bar with a tiny halter top and a mini-skirt: yeah, people will look, but it makes them sick to see it. Your comments are fucking moronic and you know nothing about politics, capital gains taxes, private school prices, or much of anything. And I'm not just saying that because you are a committed liberal. Even lots of commenters on lefty sites at least have a fucking clue about life. I am saying it because you really don't have any idea what you are talking about. I am actually better than you are at reciting the democrat talking points.

So stop whoring for attention here on this blog please: you are just being annoying. Get a life bro.

Posted by: dan-O at May 28, 2009 05:18 PM (teb/C)

160 maybe we don't need to.

Spoken like a true Obot. Enjoy your negative GDP growth, fuckwit.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 05:19 PM (7iWfE)

161 "Last time I took a look see at the Constituton healthcare was not a right."

Is education a right?

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:19 PM (VDj74)

162 That's my point exactly. There are many things our tax money is spent on that we wouldn't consider socialism. What makes healthcare so unique from education or defense? Healthcare affects the nation in so many aspects as do education and defense spending. My point is be consistent. If you want to call nationalized healthcare socialism, fine...but then label public school socialism as well. Don't pick and choose.

It's philosophical. I believe private enterprise is better than government, and all things being equal, a private enterprise will always outperform a government enterprise. But as I said, there are certain activities that have to be government run (national defense). We have the best quality health care in the world. Yes, we have too many uninsured. Yes, costs are out of control. But don't turn my health care into a visit to the DMV. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Tweak the system.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 28, 2009 05:19 PM (fWF4Q)

163

Let americans put their money into savings for a change.

Hey, sparky--interest on savings is a capital gain.

Try again.

P.S.: If you get a negative return on your savings because of the inflation rate--as we will shortly see--what is the point?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 28, 2009 05:19 PM (B+qrE)

164 Lowering cap gains taxes is, like, so retarded. We should raise them and make it more difficult for firms to raise capital in an economic downturn.

My mom says I'm fucking brilliant. Or did she say I was a brilliant fuck? I can't recall.

Posted by: stalin peele at May 28, 2009 05:19 PM (YsSn7)

165 palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:16 PM (VDj74)

You have no idea how the economy works, do you? Not even in the most basic sense. No clue.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2009 05:20 PM (IhQuA)

166 oh yeah, I hear real estate is booming these days....*slaps forehead*

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:10 PM (VDj74)

Because things are in the crapper doesn't mean they always will be, pal. Who do you think is buying up all those foreclosures in California and Florida? And why? Think about it. Real estate is and always has been cyclical (that means it goes up and down in value, nitwit.) So does the stock market, bonds, your hand on your dick.

If, and I admit, it's a big if, Obama and Geithner don't ruin our economy completely, things will improve. And when they do, some folks are going to realize some very large capital gains. If they don't have to pay huge amounts of tax on those gains, they will re-invest it, and start the process all over again. Capitalism, sonny boy, it works if the politicians keep their grubby hands out of it.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 05:20 PM (QMGr1)

167 "So stop whoring for attention here on this blog please: you are just being annoying. Get a life bro."

I'm not your bro and go fuck yourself.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:20 PM (VDj74)

168 maybe we don't need to. Let americans put their money into savings for a change. We don't always have to incentivize people to buy more, spend more in order to artificially spark the economy. those never last anyways. let's be more conservative with our money.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:16 PM (VDj74)

You are weapons grade stupid. You had to go to the lowest rated public school in the country. No one can be this dense about economics. My dead dog knows more...and he's dead.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:21 PM (iYbLN)

169 What makes healthcare so unique from education or defense?

Defense is different from both healthcare and education. National defense is a constitutional requirement of the FedGuv. Healthcare and Education are woven out of the "general welfare" of the constitution, but really are explicitly defined as issues the state governments should coordinate as they were before the constitution was drafted.

I'd put Healthcare and Education together as they are the two most regulated industries in the country which naturally makes them the least competitive with the highest prices all under the concept that they're good, effective, and available to all. Clearly they are not, so why have so much regulation now and compound the problem with more regulation pushing small city state type of problems onto the Federal government's plate?

Anecdotally, what I observe in parents that take the huge risk of home schooling or trying to find a way to send their children to private school is the lack of trust they have in the public education system to provide meaningful rearing in the critical subjects their children must learn at their age and stage of development. The more these strong families withdraw from the public educational system, the worse the public education system becomes.

It's a lot like a sports team with a superstar and highly effective role players around them. Take away a few of those role players that the superstar on a good team looks mediocre and underperforms. Or a band with a drummer that is the glue of the group that gets run out of the band for silly reasons.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:22 PM (GtYrq)

170

My dead dog knows more...and he's dead.

I think we have a thread winner1

Posted by: Cyn at May 28, 2009 05:22 PM (cxzu3)

171 Is education a right?

Certainly not one the federal government has any Constitutional authority to interfere with one way or the other.

And don't toss "General Welfare" out there, because if that means ANYthing, the rest of the Constitution means NOTHING.

Posted by: . at May 28, 2009 05:22 PM (gQLr2)

172

Thank God Palin was conceived before DNA testing had been perfected and could be used against you in a paternity suit or else one of us would have been stuck raising him.

BTW, none of us shit skittles or pee kool-aid so he had to learn that from his Mom.

Posted by: Palin Steele's Dads at May 28, 2009 05:23 PM (ewXBY)

173 maybe we don't need to. Let americans put their money into savings for a change. We don't always have to incentivize people to buy more, spend more in order to artificially spark the economy. those never last anyways. let's be more conservative with our money.

This is diploma-level economic illiteracy. Really, go out and find out how an economy works. Find out where economic growth comes from. Find out how people start and grow businesses to serve other people, and to enrich themselves and their employees. Find out where they get the money to start and grow those businesses, and to save for their retirements. And find out where they make the money for government to confiscate.

Hint: It's not from everybody hiding money in their mattresses.

Posted by: nickless at May 28, 2009 05:23 PM (MMC8r)

174 "Lowering cap gains taxes is, like, so retarded."

there's a difference between lowering cap gain taxes....and eliminating them, which was what I was attacking.

But I guess 0% cap gain taxes is the best approach, must be why countries all around the world have that policy.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:23 PM (VDj74)

175 Ace @21

I'm sorry, but like many others, I simply cannot watch or listen to another second of this arrogant Asshole-in-Chief. I absolutely cringe whenever Limbaugh or Levin play excerpts. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had such a visceral reaction to listening to one person's voice. I am so repelled by this evil man.

I'm getting a truly frightening, very bad feeling about all this. This man & his traitorous administration must be stopped somehow. Must.

Posted by: Twinks at May 28, 2009 05:24 PM (QPFLO)

176 Palin Steele's Mom was very funny. Threadwinner, even.

Posted by: nikkolai at May 28, 2009 05:24 PM (G8d+5)

177

You remind me of the fat chick who walks into the bar with a tiny halter top and a mini-skirt: yeah, people will look, but it makes them sick to see it.

palin steele is a muffin-top.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:25 PM (iYbLN)

178 Is education a right?

No, it is not a right. Education is a privilege. Ask yourself how you can grow and recede the right to free expression.

Education and Healthcare live in the physical world. They are the product of taking resources and directing them efficiently to provide the most cost effective benefits to the greatest number of users.

Speech and Expression do not live in a physical world with boundaries like this. It's only boundary is the human that owns it and chooses to use it or not.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:26 PM (GtYrq)

179

there are no words that can adequately describe the fear I have for this country, and the world if we go down.

"He who is not everyday conquering some fear has not learned the secret of life" Ralph Waldo Emerson

palin steele my god you are beyond help man..i actually feel bad for you.

Posted by: evil libertarian at May 28, 2009 05:26 PM (z2yq0)

180 >>But I guess 0% cap gain taxes is the best approach, must be why countries all around the world have that policy.

Since you now seem to want the US to do what countries around the world do, I guess you also want the US to lower the corporate tax burden, yes?

You really ought to study the first rule of holes. It's simple. I'm sure even you could understand it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2009 05:26 PM (VW9/y)

181 "Hint: It's not from everybody hiding money in their mattresses."

yeah, go look at china where they have over 10% savings rate. Their economy has been crushing ours for the past decade.

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:26 PM (VDj74)

182
174:

Yeah, zero cap gains would suck. Imagine of the feds lost an opportunity to confiscate. Boo fucking hoo.

Posted by: bunny boy at May 28, 2009 05:28 PM (YsSn7)

183 alright, im gonna go do something productive with my time and energy...

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:28 PM (VDj74)

184

Talk about dumb shit statements on taxes, they just put out a statement by one of the Obamanites that we need to raise taxes on liquor because it hasn�t kept pace with �inflation�.

As for education being a �right� it is enshrined in most States Constitutions as a �right�. And yes, a �free education� is socialism and it was brought about in the age of �progressivism� in the early 1900s.

I have long argued that it should be removed from the State Constitution and all public schools shutdown.

Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2009 05:28 PM (BYokb)

185 To the latest troll of the month -- Your hero has some of us longing for the days of Bill Clinton. Bill fucking Clinton. I wish Bill Clinton was president right now and I despise Bill fucking Clinton. Fuck I wish Hillary Clinton was president right now and now I'm going to kill myself for saying that now. kthnxbai

Posted by: Eleven at May 28, 2009 05:28 PM (OGbpf)

186 Anyone notice how muffin top steele cherry picks the comments? He only tries to answer the ones he thinks he knows the answer to. EPIC FAIL douchesteele.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at May 28, 2009 05:29 PM (iYbLN)

187 Brian is that you? Or is it you Henry? I know it's not Tom or Billy, they were the gentlemen of your bunch. I don't remember the rest of your names. You guys had me so high on that mescaline and tequila that night it's all a blur.

Posted by: Palin Steele's Mom at May 28, 2009 05:29 PM (ewXBY)

188 You remind me of the fat chick who walks into the bar with a tiny halter top and a mini-skirt: yeah, people will look, but it makes them sick to see it.

Hey, speak for yourself. If there's one thing daddy likes, it's some big ol' lovin.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2009 05:29 PM (+FzLa)

189

"Lowering cap gains taxes is, like, so retarded."

there's a difference between lowering cap gain taxes....and eliminating them, which was what I was attacking.

But I guess 0% cap gain taxes is the best approach, must be why countries all around the world have that policy.

In one minute or less, tell me every good economic reason why a capital gains tax should exist. Ready? Go.

(Forget the "other countries" argument, I have no interest in why Russia, England, Norway or Slovakia has capital gains taxes, if they do.)

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 05:30 PM (QMGr1)

190 And on his way back to the seat of his global reign, Washington DC, the swarthy, Indonesian-madrassa-edcuated African man takes a side trip in Scare Farce One to terrorize tourists on the Las Vegas Strip with another flyby of The Statue of Liberty.

Posted by: restless_independent at May 28, 2009 05:31 PM (AkT3m)

191 Is education a right?

Posted by: palin steele at May 28, 2009 05:19 PM (VDj74)

No sunshine, it's a privledge, that's unfortunatley been bastardized by yet another union.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2009 05:33 PM (+FzLa)

192

181:

China's economic growth could be easily replicated here.

Step 1: Destroy the economy through excessive regulation.
Step 2: Wait until 70 of the population is scraping by on subsistence farming.
Step 3: Liberalize economic regulations, allowing millions of underproducing citizens to start making shit. Big time growth numbers.

They're called "emerging markets" for a reason. Kinda like a post-recession boom on steroids. But kicking ass? More like joining the party.

Posted by: bunny boy at May 28, 2009 05:33 PM (YsSn7)

193 yeah, go look at china where they have over 10% savings rate. Their economy has been crushing ours for the past decade.

Hmm, crushing? Would you like to tear down the EPA? We could easily match China's growth, no wait, we could run them out of the water if we employed the same type of top to bottom human, social, religious, and industrial engineering.

We have those pesky, racist, civil rights we decided to write down in the way. Aw nuts.

And, by the way, the people in America are saving. The great big fucking problem is that those savings are one Fed decision away from getting wiped away to be worth nothing.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:33 PM (GtYrq)

194

No sunshine, it's a privledge, that's unfortunatley been bastardized by yet another union.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2009 05:33 PM (+FzLa)

Damn.

/sock off

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2009 05:34 PM (+FzLa)

195 Fuck I wish Hillary Clinton was president right now and now I'm going to kill myself for saying that now.

Eleven: Can you kill me too? I boarded the same Hillary boat.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 05:35 PM (GtYrq)

196 yeah, go look at china where they have over 10% savings rate. Their economy has been crushing ours for the past decade.

Holy shit, somebody call the EPA. Toxic levels of stupidity here.

This is even better when than when pinhead shitbrick presumed to begin lecturing commenters about labour/management relations, then had to go google 'right-to-work'.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 28, 2009 05:35 PM (7iWfE)

197

umm, Obama hasn't spent anywhere near 3 trillion...not sure where you got that number from.

Here�s $3.6-trillion spent in 100 days (in the leftist UK Guardian's piece blowing Obama in honour of 100--before he sold out the far left over Gitmo etc. that's seen the overseas left change their opinion of the One).

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 05:36 PM (MB+jN)

198 Please, leave Barack alone!!!!! How f-ing dare anyone out there make fun of Barack after all he's been through!!!! He had an aunt almost get deported, he's trying to kick the habit, his wife can bench more than him. Can't you see he's trying his hardest???? He has soooooooo much to overcome (he's black you know) and it's all the evil Boooosh's fault. That's why even though "we're out of money" President Omniscient/Omnipotent/Ominpresent will be doubling down and increasing the national debt by $9+ trillion (even more if you don't believe Bambi's magic economic's ball and close your eyes to his laughable estimation of the cost of gov't run health care). We'll be fine, now stop bashing Bambi.

Posted by: palin steele cocker at May 28, 2009 05:37 PM (DvaIL)

199 oh yeah, I hear real estate is booming these days....*slaps forehead*

Posted by: palin steele

Why does a guy living in moms basement care about the real estate market anyway ? Moms totally got that whole roof over the head thing covered anyway.

Should we also subsidize the Cheetoes and Pabst for you.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2009 05:40 PM (+FzLa)

200 You know, sometimes I actually wish some troll with half a fucking brain would stumble in here and put up a really good argument. But then I realize a lefty would actually need to make sense. Instead, we end up arguing with each other. And sometimes, the arguments are about something other than the merits of Valu Rite vs. MD 20/20.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 28, 2009 05:40 PM (QMGr1)

201 Arguing against ignorance is futile.

Posted by: rockhead at May 28, 2009 05:45 PM (DvaIL)

202

alright, im gonna go do something productive with my time and energy...

Oh come on Mr. President, not in the ass again. I told you I'd swallow this time.

Posted by: palin steele (VDj74) at May 28, 2009 05:46 PM (ewXBY)

203 Palin Steele's id tag (that alphanumeric combo to the right of our names) is "VD...."

I think VD is appropriate ... My guess is he/she has syphilis and has reached the stage of brain deterioration.

Posted by: Twinks at May 28, 2009 05:46 PM (QPFLO)

204 When the Mexicans begin making statutes of him from the overflowing toilets of their gas stations you know this is a man of greatness. The last man so honored was John Kerry, war hero.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at May 28, 2009 05:47 PM (B8gqF)

205
You know, the sad thing about turds like palin steele is that *this*(trolling a blog for BO) is his job.

This is palin steele's fucking job. He's so lame that, think about it, this is the only job he can get. Trolling a blog.

Whoring for some politician.

Really it doesn't get much sadder than that.

Posted by: rinseandspit at May 28, 2009 05:47 PM (oEAm5)

206

And sometimes, the arguments are about something other than the merits of Valu Rite vs. MD 20/20.

What's the word? Thunderbird.

How's it sold? Good and cold.

What's the jive? Bird alive.

What's the price? 30 twice.

Posted by: Eleven at May 28, 2009 05:49 PM (OGbpf)

207 The funniest thing palin steele ever said was, I'm not a liberal or a conservative.

Anyone who can say that with a straight face after the leftist garbage he's posted deserves some kind of a reward.

Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 05:53 PM (+FzLa)

208 183 alright, im gonna go do something productive with my time and energy...

If it's anything other than eating a bullet, it's a waste of time.

Now fuck off.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 28, 2009 05:55 PM (vZVv7)

209 By his vocal rhythm, he learned to speak at the knee of the Right Reverend Jeremiah Wright a long time ago. Preaching to the Choir just took on a whole new meaning. The stuttering jug-eared fuck.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 28, 2009 05:55 PM (KSqS9)

210

Jon Stewart used to play that "I'm a centrist" bullshit, too. I think the only person that actually believed it was him.

Lame.

Posted by: Eleven at May 28, 2009 05:56 PM (OGbpf)

211

207 The funniest thing palin steele ever said was, I'm not a liberal or a conservative.
Posted by: Blazer at May 28, 2009 05:53 PM (+FzLa)

The scary thing is, many people on the left sincerely think this. They have such an absolutist and authoritarian mentality that they are not liberal-or-conservative or right-or-left. They are just correct, realistic, honest, pragmatic.

Posted by: dan-O at May 28, 2009 06:01 PM (teb/C)

212 Ugh, they said George Bush murdered the English language. I don't recall him using double negatives. So really what Ogabe's saying is that we have seen something--and it's not pretty!

Posted by: runningrn at May 28, 2009 06:03 PM (aC/SY)

213

Palin Steele:

"Let americans put their money into savings for a change."

You have to be a Liberal to be this dense. What in the hell do you think the "savings" is put into by the bank? Magic beans that sprout money?

Apparently the public schools you went to failed to teach you the rudiments of how a free economy works. Either that or you were too busy sniffing glue.

Lightworker should appoint you to the Treasury.You both seem to be on the same level knowledge-wise.

Posted by: Teleprompter Messiah at May 28, 2009 06:06 PM (wB1Mo)

214 You have to be a Liberal to be this dense. What in the hell do you think the "savings" is put into by the bank? Magic beans that sprout money?

I was 5 when I learned this lesson. As I have aged, talking to my peers, I learned that some of them, even after 30, still didn't know what happens to your money when you deposit it in a bank.

It's been a lesson I use to temper my argumentative side. Now I just ask if they know their Dad.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 28, 2009 06:18 PM (GtYrq)

215 Wow, I've always said Brian Dennehy could act, but this clip really shows he has the bona fide chops! This is his best work yet! He really is playing the role of a lifetime! Give him the Oscar now, he is that convincing!

Posted by: Roger Ebert at May 28, 2009 06:25 PM (aC/SY)

216 It's been a lesson I use to temper my argumentative side. Now I just ask if they know their Dad.

Heh. That is funny and also a very good point.

Posted by: dan-O at May 28, 2009 06:44 PM (teb/C)

217 Just checking in after a long annoying day, and Ace, your reasoning @21 is spot on. That clip is really, really, really depressing, and worse than I could have imagined. Wow.

Posted by: jakeman at May 28, 2009 06:51 PM (DyROQ)

218

hey guys, i'm a democrat so i speak idiot, let me try to explain it to palin steele.

economy for tools 101 by professor joe Phd corona with lime U

check it out. say i'm 5 yo and i really want to buy a bike which costs me say 100 bucks (yearly projected goal). i check my piggy bank and damn it all, i only got 5 bucks. what to do, what to do... i know, i'll sell lemonaide (business).

okay, i need lemonaide mix, a cardbox for the stand, sugar, water, and cups. to the store i go, but oh hell, to get everything for my business, i need 20 bucks (startup costs). so i go to dad for the rest (investor)

now i need help getting the lemonaide ready, selling it, so i get my two sisters to help out. (employees) in the beginning, lots of business, making tons of quarters. my sisters get their cut and they buy ice cream. i pay my dad back and off to the store i go to buy more supplies.

Oh no!!! gas went up so shipping costs went up to so now i need 30 bucks for my goods (shipping cost passed to the consumer) so back i go to dad. since i made the money back to pay him he says okay (investor confidence is high)

oops, bad day selling, and now i can barely pay back dad and pay my sisters but i need that bike, i know, i'll fire one of my sisters (now less taxes paid to state and less spending for the economy) i pay back dad and ask for some back for supplies but he says your selling is low so maybe i'll hold off lending you some money, use what you have (oh oh, investor confidence is low, less investing)

so i go buy the cheapest brands i can afford. back to selling, i'm doing really bad because that kid down the street is selling the higher priced stuff that tastes better (consumer demand for quality) and also losing out to the girl around the block who sells it for a nickle a cup because she only charges a dime (aka china who uses cheap labor compared to our unions)

now, i pay of my sister with what i have made and and to lay her off. crap. but who is this, an inspector with the states saying i have to have my lemonaid at a certain temperature and must have a bacteria test once a month (goverment regulation0 now with the extra costs, i can't expand my stand and hire my sisters back to to earn the money for the bike, now i have to charge a buck a cup.

no one buys from me now because they can get the same cup for a dime, or better lemonaide elsewhere, so i have to quit the stand and never get the bike (which of course represented my retirement)

get it?

Posted by: navycopjoe at May 28, 2009 06:53 PM (8UaWj)

219 Trolin Steele @ 91 "You do realize we already have something called public schools...that offer FREE education to kids...subsidized by TAXES. Is that also socialist?"
Trans: Obambi's federal takeover of U.S. medical care will work out because state-managed public education has worked out so well.

Ombudsman @ 92 : (Trans) But that hasn't worked out well at all.
Nickless @ 95: (Trans): But that hasn't worked out well at all.
Kieth Arnold @ 96: (Trans): But that hasn't worked out well at all.
Blazer @ 101: (Trans): Along with working badly, it's inaccurate to call either of these things "free."
Circa (Insert Year Here) @ 107 (Trans): Your analogy between public education and public health care doesn't work because of the vastly different sizes of the things being compared AND because of the very different funding sources of the the things being compared. PLUS you haven't said how this boondoggle will get paid for.
Lorien1973 @ 117 (Trans): Plus your analogy fails to address the bad effects of unfunded federal mandates on public education, AND. you haven't said how this boondoggle will get paid for.
==================
Trolin Steele @ 99 "Well, I haven't heard of parents petitioning the government to eliminate offering free public education...so I guess it's ok, of course its not perfect."
Trans: State-managed public education is a success because of her personal ignorance of anybody having petitioned for its abolition. Political activity concerning voucher systems either has not been happening or does not count.
Lorien1973 @ 104 (Trans): Political activity concerning voucher systems has been happening and does count. It indicates the extent of the unpopularity of your favored system.
Ombudsman @ 105 (Trans): Political activity concerning voucher systems has been happening and does count. It indicates the extent of the unpopularity of your favored system.

Trolin Steele @ 106 "Free education is not perfect and no one would claim such but public schools is still better than no schools. "
Trans: Watch me hoist up these goalposts and start walking backwards. Now I've shifted the argument to whether we should have unpopular and ineffective public schools or NO schools. Therefore, by analogy, we're now arguing about whether we should have Obambified medical care or NO medical care.
Trolin Steele @106 ".you do realize not all families are rich like yours and can afford to send their kids to 20,000 a year K-12 programs, right?"
Trans: Plus I've just now decided, based on nothing, that my critics are all wealthy and therefore their opinions can be dismissed with no actual rebuttal.

Trolin Steele @111 "And where does the government magically get money to give as tuition vouchers to parents?"
Trans: State governments disbursing tax revenues in the form of tuition vouchers makes it okay for the Federal government to disburse tax revenues in the form of government-rationed medical care.

Nickless @ 123 "Ah, now we're into the straw man arguments."

Stoopy say: Yeah, that plus the goal-post-shifting, the projection, the argument-from-ignorance, and the analogy that backfires on her ... pretty typical performance, all around. What do the East German judges say?

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at May 28, 2009 07:01 PM (7kJ9U)

220 If you do watch it, you will find that it's probably worse than you thought. that's why I posted it, really. It's pretty upsetting to see this asshole jack-ass around with such swagger and get applause for ruining the economy.

Posted by: ace at May 28, 2009 03:52 PM (gEsIJ)

I can't watch this jug-eared fuck without thinking thoughts that are extremely disturbing. I'm sure that the shitheads on the left felt similar things about GWB but at least he wasn't such a media whore as this third-world thug wannabe that he appeared on prime time all the fucking time for absolutely zilch. When Odumbfuck comes on the tv, it gets turned off; likewise the radio unless it's a sound byte on Laura Ingraham and I know that the sub-retard will be ridiculed for being the craven idiot that he is.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2009 07:07 PM (Vlq0g)

221 I like to think that a wise Latina woman could threaten that room much better than a swarthy male.

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 28, 2009 07:07 PM (iafWn)

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Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.
We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragments huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at May 28, 2009 07:16 PM (K5AMb)

223 In this short a period of time, even allowing for the complexity of a smooth running economy, would anyone be crazy enough , arrogant enough or stupid enough to claim they had something under control and with no worries?

Its like taking a rank amateur pilot and giving them take the controls of a large commercial jet and then having that junior pilot say in the first few seconds, "I got it all under control don't worry."

My fellow pilot friends will have a laugh at the inevitable playing out of this attempt.

Posted by: NortonPete at May 28, 2009 07:37 PM (fVuwW)

224

"You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet!"

Translation: I've got until 2012 to fuck this country over beyond recognition.

Posted by: SFC MAC at May 28, 2009 07:45 PM (dX8Ae)

225

Wow Bush must've been quite the Marxist himself then...wonder how many times you guys called bush a socialist...

You obviously weren't trolling here during the financial meltdown and TARP, pal.

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The scary thing is, many people on the left sincerely think this. They have such an absolutist and authoritarian mentality that they are not liberal-or-conservative or right-or-left. They are just correct, realistic, honest, pragmatic.

Reason #275 why you can't talk to liberals.

How dumb do you have to be to NOT know what your own worldview is?

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at May 28, 2009 09:38 PM (or0jG)

228

15 Cyn I'm with you. I can't watch anymore and it's getting harder to listen to sound bites on the radio.

Amen.

Zero: the reason the "mute" button was invented. I've also been missing a lot of Rush lately. When he starts with those clips, my gag reflex goes into overdrive.

The one bright spot -- Obamateur is practically making every damn one of the GOP's 2010/'23 commercials for them. If they can't annihilate the entire dem party, it's time for us Morons to start accepting RSVPs to Ace's Jonestown: Drink Till Ya Drop.

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Posted by: mcnorman at May 28, 2009 11:25 PM (eerdu)

233 I can't fucking STAND these fucking fucking fucks in my country. http://tinyurl.com/l83q2o The fucking 'Associated Press' aka the fucking socialist party of Anti-America continues to air photos of "Sunset on destroyed Palestinian houses" and fails to report on the THOUSANDS OF FUCKING ROCKETS that these fucking 'innocent' sacks of shit lob on them.

I FUCKING HATE THESE PEOPLE.

Since I'm the bogey-man anyway per comments from fuck-sticks like Marty, I'll be the first to say it: FUCK MUSLIMS. They need to all be bombed back to the stone-age from whence they're already in.

Holy war? I'm fucking atheist. But if you wanna call it that, BRING IT THE FUCK ON, you sheep fucking fucks!

Posted by: Crunchycon at May 28, 2009 11:35 PM (Dlm/4)

234 This is why I would never make it in public office. I can't help but get piss-raving mad watching this shit. I hope in some sadistic way that our government fails badly enough to warrant an invasion. I will enjoy the opportunity to personally disembowel any poor fuck that cares to cross my property line without permission during an invasion.

Posted by: Crunchycon at May 28, 2009 11:39 PM (Dlm/4)

235 Doing for healthcare what Americans already have for education

LOL. I wonder: will my over-funded, mismanaged inner-city hospital be just as dazzling as my over-funded, mismanaged inner-city school?

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at May 29, 2009 05:59 AM (xBkZj)

236 Axelrod Tool @ 233:
" I'll be the first to say it: FUCK MUSLIMS. They need to all be bombed back to the stone-age from whence they're already in.
Holy war? I'm fucking atheist. But if you wanna call it that, BRING IT THE FUCK ON, you sheep fucking fucks!"

Congratulations, fuckstick, your comment will now be the one most likely to be cherry-picked for quotation & display around the leftist blogosphere as being "typical" of the thinking of conservatives.

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