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Gingrich: "Racist" Sotomayor Should Withdraw
Update: WSJ Inadvertantly Exposes Silver-Bullet Sexual Scandal?

She is racist, for the same reason white racists are racist; they wish to ascribe to themselves moral and intellectual and spiritual gifts that only they possess, due solely to their race and their blood.

But, of course, everyone except white people are allowed to subscribe to this "excellence lies in the blut und landes" philosophy, so she'll get a pass.

Gingrich today joined the chorus of conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, who called Sotomayor a "reverse racist."

The accusations are aimed at comments Sotomayor made during a 2001 lecture at the University of California-Berkeley. Referring to former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's saying that "a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases," Sotomayor said, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

On Wednesday afternoon, Gingrich wrote on Twitter: "Imagine a judicial nominee said 'my experience as a white man makes me better than a Latina woman' new racism is no better than old racism."

"White man racist nominee would be forced to withdraw. Latina woman racist should also withdraw," Gingrich wrote.

It's pathetic when a no-account White Racist claims some less than apparent superiority based only on his blood and skin. It's even worse when a potential Supreme Court justice does so.

It's not just that Supreme Court justices shouldn't be racist.

It's that she cannot apparently conceive of any better qualification or recommendation for herself than the mundane accident of her sex and ethnicity.

Scandal! If this WSJ headline is to be believed, I'd say Sotomayor has a cronyism issue far worse than Abe Fotas did.

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Thanks to Slublog.

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM



Comments

1 Stop beating me to death!

Posted by: double standard at May 27, 2009 03:32 PM (P+8C1)

2 No shit, I got special powers cuz I'm pigmented?  WTF, I'm gonna go see if I can fly, fuck this walking shit.

Posted by: Dang Striaghts at May 27, 2009 03:34 PM (Haq+B)

3 Well, I don't know about you, but being White makes it a hell of a lot easier to hide in a big pile of peach yogurt than if you are one of "those people".



Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 27, 2009 03:34 PM (ZPwZl)

4

You can't be a member of the "oppressed" class and guilty of racism or any of the other white man's sins simultaneously. Having brown skin and a vaj is like a double secret probabion get out of jail free card.

You didn't already know this? What......did you go to college in the 70's or something?

Posted by: pendejo grande at May 27, 2009 03:35 PM (PXZI9)

5
"Latina Woman" is redundant.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at May 27, 2009 03:36 PM (4s1it)

6

Hurrah! Newt gets it. The Hispandering fools who have held the Republican party for too long don't get it.

Newt stumbled when he dallied with the eco-communists, but you can't have everything.

2010 COULD make 1994 look like a small blip.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 03:36 PM (ujg0T)

7 How the fuck did I even get involved in this?

Posted by: Wise Latina Woman at May 27, 2009 03:36 PM (TXp3z)

8 That and having 60% over her rulings overturned should disqualify her.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at May 27, 2009 03:38 PM (dCjum)

9 I absolutely despise the term "reverse" racism.  Can we stop using that?  Racism is racism.  Racism against the majority is racism.  It's not "reverse" just because it's aimed at whites.  I think it trivializes the behavior, and makes it seem "different" than any other racism, and it's not.

Posted by: yinzer at May 27, 2009 03:38 PM (/Mla1)

10 9 Good point. It is just Racism.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at May 27, 2009 03:40 PM (dCjum)

11 He tapped that latina?  Ewwww,  don't even think Clinton would want a piece of that.

Posted by: Dang Striaghts at May 27, 2009 03:41 PM (Haq+B)

12 What yinzer said.

Posted by: Hotspur at May 27, 2009 03:41 PM (c158/)

13

Scandal! If this WSJ headline is to be believed, I'd say Sotomayor has a cronyism issue far worse than Abe Fotas did.

The WSJ is notorious for suffering the delusion that I call "Multiculturalism of the Right". Capitalists of the world unite.More cheap labor for all.

They also suffer from Immigration Romantic Delusion.

It's still a great paper, but always read with these two delusions in mind.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 03:41 PM (ujg0T)

14 3 Well, I don't know about you, but being White makes it a hell of a lot easier to hide in a big pile of peach yogurt than if you are one of "those people".

Wow, hadn't thought of that.  Then again I don't have that "special knowledge", I'm just a stupid whitey.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 27, 2009 03:42 PM (kw6LA)

15 Oh, I don't know.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 27, 2009 03:42 PM (gEsIJ)

16 She is a racist. Reverse racism would be a utopian socialist outlook wherein everyone is the same, with the same needs and desires.  Sort of like Soylent Green with a little adobo. 

She may be that as well, but we don't have a money quote to prove it.

Posted by: Jean at May 27, 2009 03:42 PM (L64A6)

17

White House Press Office.....

Sotomayor is an excellent choice. Why, she's smarter than Joe Biden!

Posted by: Murph at May 27, 2009 03:42 PM (Mk493)

18

Ewwww,  don't even think Clinton would want a piece of that.

Did someone say piece?

Posted by: Bubba at May 27, 2009 03:43 PM (B+qrE)

19 OK,
what does Bluto and Landes have to do with this? And who is Landes?

Posted by: jcp at May 27, 2009 03:43 PM (DHNp4)

20 You've got to wonder how that headline got past a copy editor. 

Immature? Yes. 

Hilarious? Sadly, yes.

Posted by: Slublog at May 27, 2009 03:43 PM (qjKko)

21 16 Ummmmm.... Soylent Green... (slurp)

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at May 27, 2009 03:44 PM (dCjum)

22 Why do I get this feeling she has in her employ a gardener who's an illegal immigrant?

Posted by: Tim B. at May 27, 2009 03:44 PM (WLldW)

23 jcp, I imagine you're joking, but it's the nazi idea of what makes a 'volk' or people -- blood and land.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 27, 2009 03:45 PM (gEsIJ)

24 If we have any hope of beating her nomination, this is the line of attack.

The worst case scenario is that it weakens the left's continuous use of the term racist as a cheap attack.

The best case scernario is that we get her to say something equally as bigoted during the nomination hearings and she goes down in flames. And consider what that would do in light of Obama's past missteps in his appointments?

Tax cheats, bigots, Biden, etc. It is not the list of people a talented leader would choose as his chief lieutenants and allies.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2009 03:46 PM (7BU4a)

25 Worse, the whole 'superior judgement because of ethnic background' is part-and-parcel of an activist approach to the job. She will make a more enlightened judgment because of her onerous life of hardship and travail and pursue justice, not just stick with the damn law as written, but because of her desire to right wrongs and level playingfields.

Posted by: nickless at May 27, 2009 03:47 PM (MMC8r)

26

You've got to wonder how that headline got past a copy editor. 

Honestly, folks, it really *isn't* a mistake. Fun and joke aside, This IS how the WSJ looks at it. Tap that new market, tap that cheap labor.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 03:47 PM (ujg0T)

27 Who or what exactly is it that determines if someone is a "wise Latina woman"?
Is it the Princeton diploma that , alone, confers this wisdom ? Doesn't Michelle of the lovely arms also possess one of those sheepskins ? Is she considered a "wise black woman" ?I'm afraid I'll have to call bullshit . Neither of them strikes me as being particularly "wise".

Posted by: aubrey at May 27, 2009 03:47 PM (vJZ+j)

28 If being a latina means you make wiser decisions, why aren't barrios like Beverly Hills?

Posted by: nickless at May 27, 2009 03:51 PM (MMC8r)

29 I don't know if it's racist, but it does sound stupid.  What is a "rich" life experience?  It just sounds like she's drinking heavily from the PC notions that everything she does is special while all you stuffy white people just sit around all day and count your money. 

You see, when a white judge signs a motion to dismiss, he's all like (in a nasally voice) "well, precedence and judicial mores dictate that I dismiss this case for lack of standing." But when a wise latina signs a motion to dismiss, see's all like (in a rosie perez voice) "OH no you didn't have no standing, uh uh..."

or whatever.

We actually know that Sotomayor, when she signs an opinion to dismiss an appeal, is all like, I agree with the lower court, suck it, firefighters.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 27, 2009 03:51 PM (QxSug)

30 Thanks Bubba,
Wasn't joking. kind of guessed but had never heard that.

Posted by: jcp at May 27, 2009 03:51 PM (DHNp4)

31 Eh, I gotta say I hate this.  Not because it's not true (the double standard certainly is, though I'm not sure Sotomayor is really a racist*).

To me the bigger issue is this is a fight Republicans aren't going to win and Obama wants to have.

As I said yesterday,  I want to fight her but I think it should be on the grounds of her philosophy. Empathy has no place in the considerations of a Supreme Court justice. The rule of law is all that matters.

I doubt we can knock her off but we can use her as a club to hit Democrats in the next few elections. Judges are an issue that works for Republicans but you have to make the case. Calling her a racist isn't making that case.

And the fight won't be over her alleged racism but the racism of Newt, Rush and therefore every Republican for daring to bring it up.

I think the double standard on race is a fight we should have but not here, not now. Not because we aren't right but we aren't going to win it in this context. We might however in others.

Now we are going to engage in a fight we aren't going to win (either by knocking her out or proving Republicans are held to a different standard) and we won't have laid the ground work to make judicial philosophy an election issue in '10 or '12

Why are we fighting on ground of their choosing? It's simply bad tactics.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 03:52 PM (PLGGU)

32

I can't decide whether Obama has put this fool up as a flameout to ensure that his real choice, whom he'll announce after this one inevitably goes down, has smooth sailing at his/her confirmation (no way the gop has the balls to fight 2x on this) or whether he honestly thinks she's someone who belongs on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: TiredWench at May 27, 2009 03:52 PM (ulSJI)

33 I -cannot- understand why every conservative with a microphone on the planet isn't bringing up Michael "he is exceptionally dangerous because he is Latino" Estrada every 5 seconds.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at May 27, 2009 03:52 PM (/y1J0)

34

Gibby beclowns himself:

"I think it is probably important for anybody involved in this debate to be exceedingly careful with the way in which they've decided to describe different aspects of this impending confirmation."

Liberals are such pussies.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 27, 2009 03:52 PM (B+qrE)

35

All this hoopla is exactly what the exalted one wants...he politicizes everything. He's just waiting for someone to say something un-pc and the in-the tank-crowd will pounce. Newt is right, you can cut the hypocrisy w/a knife, he'll get slammed by the msm and they'll  portray all conservatives and repubs as old-white-bigots...wait is'nt that racist??

 

Posted by: dananjcon at May 27, 2009 03:53 PM (1B81L)

36 Obama Taps Latina for Court

I've got that DVD! No, wait...naw, it's Latina Hoochie Girls.

Never mind.

Posted by: Monty at May 27, 2009 03:56 PM (/0a60)

37 When set upon by the viscous she-bitches of the left, or the scratch you eyes out she-cats, they will not give you any quarter,as is there way... calmly say to them ... "BORK, BORK ,BORK" Then turn your back to then and say no more...I hope they implode... 

Posted by: Mystry at May 27, 2009 03:57 PM (dIHlE)

38 reverse racist

If we allow them to control the language then there is no way we can win.  That phrase presupposes that only whites can be racists normally.

Posted by: kbiel at May 27, 2009 03:57 PM (HAib+)

39 It's been my experience that people who label themselves "wise" are anything but.

Posted by: Jazz at May 27, 2009 03:58 PM (hnq5i)

40 If being a latina means you make wiser decisions....,

Excuse me, who's making my decisions now?

Posted by: wiserbud at May 27, 2009 03:58 PM (IHbof)

41 Obama Taps Latina for Court

Ah, I get it, Obama is the ultimate wingman, taking that grenade while the Court macked on Sotomayor's hotter friend.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 27, 2009 03:58 PM (QxSug)

42 The right thing to do is bring this up during confirmation and ask why a white man could not also have the richness of experience in order to reach a superior decision.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at May 27, 2009 03:59 PM (TXp3z)

43 Nothing wrong with tappin' it so long as you spread it around a little.

Posted by: Bobby Baker at May 27, 2009 03:59 PM (YCVBL)

44 Why are we fighting on ground of their choosing? It's simply bad tactics.

You're assuming that the GOP ever will get the benefit of the doubt. They won't. Therefore, this battleground is as good as any. The battle has to be fought somewhere; might as well be here.

Gettysburg wasn't a particularly valuable spot to either army, remember. It just happened to be a place where the roads came together.

Posted by: Monty at May 27, 2009 03:59 PM (/0a60)

45 Hey, you know she'll make a great judge and pair up fantastically with Judge Ginsberg. Hey, do you know Sotomayer and Ginsberg drove by a Macy's the other day and got into an argument over whether to buy it or rob it

(tap tap) ... is this thing on?

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2009 04:00 PM (93F13)

46 @5:"Latina Woman" is redundant.

Just sayin'.

Not necessarily

Posted by: Mexican Tranny Hooker at May 27, 2009 04:00 PM (1OYcp)

47 If she were 20 years younger and not so crazy, I might hit it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 27, 2009 04:01 PM (m1kcI)

48 Merciful God, he's put Rosie O'Donnell on the Supreme Court!

Posted by: DaveDave at May 27, 2009 04:01 PM (5WhDr)

49 I would never trust the wisdom of anyone who referred to herself as wise.

Posted by: kelly at May 27, 2009 04:02 PM (XwktS)

50 1 . The country elected obama ergo white guilt is finished .
2. Fight the nomination of this 'o so wise latina ' . She's the racist , not us.
3. Bloody the liberals over this nomination as much as possible.
4. Profit !!

Posted by: aubrey at May 27, 2009 04:02 PM (vJZ+j)

51 Gettysburg wasn't a particularly valuable spot to either army, remember. It just happened to be a place where the roads came together.
Posted by: Monty at May 27, 2009 03:59 PM (/0a60)

Awesome! That's exactly what I had in mind when I wrote my comment.

The outcome of that battle was settled the moment Buford selected the ground for his cavalry. I see no reason why we should play Lee in this little example and throw ourselves against them in a futile effort.

Like Longstreet, I want to fight, just not where we are doomed to fail.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 04:05 PM (PLGGU)

52

Unless you're latin, female, black, gay/lesbian, etc you can't possibly have any "rich experiences". 

'Cause, you know, no country founded and guided by white males would evah amount to anything. 

 

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 04:05 PM (YBTwf)

53 wiserbud:  Excuse me, who's making my decisions now?

"wiser decisions" - as in wiser-like decisions, as in the evaluative criteria are:

1. Will it get me drunk?
2. Does it have a hoo-ha for my wiserwein?



Posted by: Jazz at May 27, 2009 04:05 PM (hnq5i)

54

Why are we fighting on ground of their choosing?

Drew, the fight has to be here, right now.  Think of it as Kennan's containment strategy extrapolated to the political realm:  Every incursion must--MUST be met.  Otherwise you end up conceding the field way too much (as has been the case since McCain won the nomination and these kinds of offenses were just ignored, see: Couric, Katie).

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 27, 2009 04:06 PM (B+qrE)

55 Purple Avenger: If she were 20 years younger and not so crazy, I might hit it.

Good god, Magnum - she has a face that could scare a shit-eating dog out of a septic tank.

Posted by: Jazz at May 27, 2009 04:07 PM (hnq5i)

56 This is the primary reason I voted for that schlub McCain...Supreme court picks. At the time I wasn't thinking about how bad Obama would screw up the economy.

Posted by: Bosk at May 27, 2009 04:07 PM (fazYB)

57 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 27, 2009 04:06 PM (B+qrE)

Here's the thing, I'm not saying don't fight against her. I'm not even saying don't fight back when accused of racism (throw Estrada in their face).

What I am saying is don't make her racism our line of attack. There are much better weapons in our chest to fight her with.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 04:08 PM (PLGGU)

58 1. Will it get me drunk?
2. Does it have a hoo-ha for my wiserwein?

3. Will I need to get a shot afterwards?

Posted by: wiserbud at May 27, 2009 04:08 PM (IHbof)

59 The woman killed baseball. Her injunction gave us 25 million dollar a year baseball players which was the incentive for massive steroid abuse. She didn't save baseball, she killed it.

Posted by: Rocks at May 27, 2009 04:09 PM (Q1lie)

60

Rest easy

The gutless, dickless, spineless, 'nad-free RINOP will roll over to a prone position for violation of their lowermost bowel by ZOTUS and the Dims. The likely ascendancy of this PC-Affirmative Action mestizo-ette is not the problem ... it merely reflects the devolution of the American culture. If she were one-eyed, peg-legged and a lesbo she'd be perfect.

Posted by: OhioDude at May 27, 2009 04:12 PM (dDsQi)

61

What I am saying is don't make her racism our line of attack. There are much better weapons in our chest to fight her with.

And what I am saying is use every arrow in the quiver.  And tie those to a larger strategy.  The Beltway opposition, such as it is, is still trying to win the last election and be one of the cool kids.  Knock it off and tell the truth--she's a dangerous leftwing racist who has little respect for precedent and even less for the Constitution.  And that needs to be the angle on the President and economics as well--we're doing idiotic illegal things on an grand scale with no there there. 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 27, 2009 04:12 PM (B+qrE)

62 First, what strikes me beyond race is her personal arrogance. SHE is the "wise" one. I don't suppose we can get her transcripts, can we? Her legal record is incredibly poor and I do not trust these Bullshit Studies degrees coming out of the Ivys.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 27, 2009 04:12 PM (rJbOT)

63 Rocks:  Her injunction gave us 25 million dollar a year baseball players which was the incentive for massive steroid abuse. She didn't save baseball, she killed it.

Steroid abuse that led to A-Rod's clubhouse nickname of "Bitch Tits."  C'mon, she brought some funny.

Posted by: Jazz at May 27, 2009 04:13 PM (hnq5i)

64 >>>What I am saying is don't make her racism our line of attack. There are much better weapons in our chest to fight her with.

I dunno. People don't like this on a visceral level.

It may be "unduly prejudicial," as they say in court, as its relevance is exceeded by its tendency to make people simply dislike the, um, defendant, but that is a feature, not a bug.


Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:13 PM (gEsIJ)

65

I agree that this is a fight worth having, but not necessarily to defeat her. It would be a very good time to get some conservative talking points out there, principles like adherance to the rule of law and the equality that it embraces, philosophies of the Founding Fathers (and include as many of their quotes as possible), what happens when those who are supposed to protect our rights shirk their responsiblilty (see Kelo), and stuff like that there.

I also have the sinking feeling that the Repubs in the Senate won't have the balls to do it, and thereby miss yet another golden opportunity.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2009 04:13 PM (ZGhSv)

66 #31 DrewM

I agree, 100% The attack has to be as simple as Jonah Goldberg's latest column. That way, we still won't win, but it won't be personalized, and maybe some people will learn something.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 04:14 PM (w9wXi)

67

From the link..."Experience is everything. You want richness and diversity on the Supreme Court," James Carville said. "She has a life experience she brings."

 

Hey, how about excellence and aptitude over richness and diversity.  I'm so sick of diversity being the end-all, be-all.  I'm certain their are amazing jurists who are not white males who don't see their gender/race/orientation/etc as a qualifier.  O couldn't find one.

Will some senator please ask her, "So, if you happen to be a white male, would you not be qualified?"

DrewM...I also agree we can't keep giving up hills just because we know we can't win them.  Soon enough there are no hills to defend.  There is a way to craft this opposition where (God, I hope) most Americans will get it and agree.  And if she is defeated, maybe O nominates someone even worse.  But, we can't keep avoiding fights out of fear that the result may be worse.

 

 

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 04:14 PM (YBTwf)

68 Maybe it's not a main attack, but it should be in the mix.


I for one have little patience for diversity-mongers, who claim they bring something to the table just because they're female or minority. "Diversity" is the codeword but the underlying notion is sexual/racial superiority.


Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:15 PM (gEsIJ)

69

Maybe it's not a main attack, but it should be in the mix.

Bingo. Attack the Left with *both* incendiary and armor piercing rounds.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 04:17 PM (ujg0T)

70 "What I am saying is don't make her racism our line of attack.  There are much better weapons in our chest to fight her with."

Who is suggesting that we (correctly) point out her racism to the exclusion of objecting to her on other grounds?

It is not the line of attack, it is a line of attack.  And it is not a stand-alone issue.  Her racist remarks are relevant because they reflect upon her judicial philosophy - that certain races and groups are entitled to different judicial consideration than others.

Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 04:17 PM (Yv052)

71 Incidentally, Drew, she didn't restrict herself to the normal way this is expressed: I bring DIFFERENT experiences than other people, and those experiences are important and valid, and my "diversity" therefore adds to the group's insight by addition of a view they wouldn't otherwise have had.

She claimed her special insight made her view superior, in and of itself. Not by addition to other views, as a metal might become stronger by alloying it with others. But that her metal itself was superior.

That's going a bit further than the typical diversity monger, Drew. Do you agree?

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:17 PM (gEsIJ)

72 Or for that matter, what Thomas Sowell said in his latest column.

(BTW, has there ever been a more fitting last name -- he says everything I'd like to say, but he says it so well.)

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 04:18 PM (w9wXi)

73

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” — MLK

Perchance to dream.

Posted by: CTN at May 27, 2009 04:19 PM (HWSe/)

74

I also have the sinking feeling that the Repubs in the Senate won't have the balls to do it, and thereby miss yet another golden opportunity.

Not so fast...Sessions is the ranking Repub with positively nothing to fear politically.  It could make for some interesting moments.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 27, 2009 04:19 PM (B+qrE)

75
Amazing how everything has been turned into a "third-rail" issue for the Republicans, even the truth.

Look at us. We're afraid to touch everything and we're second-guessing ourselves at every turn.

Posted by: Unicle, the at May 27, 2009 04:20 PM (DbnT7)

76 i.e., the usual way of expressing how wonderful diversity is is thus:

I am different. I am not necessarily better, but my different perspective is just as valid as anyone's and it will benefit us to have that different POV heard.

Fine. Bullshitty, but fine.

She didn't say that though.

She said that her POV, her race, her sex, her experience, did in fact make her, in themselves, superior to any white dude.

Not that a group containing herself and some white dudes would be superior to a group only containing white dudes. but that she was in fact superior to the white dudes, just because she was not white and not a dude.


Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:20 PM (gEsIJ)

77 Soldier on, knuckleheads. Fight Fight Fight. You don't need the minority votes anyway. You have the Uncle Tom votes locked up.

What a pud hypocrite. ace. Alito and Rehnquist are/were racists.

No, I can't back that up. I just say things and think it makes for a convincing argument. Why? Because I'm a Marxist tard who doesn't have a job or friends.

Posted by: Allan Bakke at May 27, 2009 04:21 PM (kjPUj)

78

Here's a strategy:

First: oppose her with every means.

Second: When it gets to the point where the liberal media says "Waah! Republican Obstructionists!" then put her to a vote, and let every real Republican vote her down. No more "nice guy" confirmations like Ruth Ginsberg.

She wins, but the precedent is set. A vote for Demcorats is a vote for more of the usual racial doublse standards (OJ acquittals, Affirmative Racism, Reginald Denny beatings, Korean store burnings, Al Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, etc.)

Make no mistake: annoyance about this crap in large part fueled the Great Upchuck of 1994. Where do you think the phrase "angry white males" came from?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 04:21 PM (ujg0T)

79 If only we had a man of Steel(e) at the helm of the RNC...

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 04:22 PM (cxzu3)

80 I dunno. People don't like this on a visceral level.
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:13 PM (gEsIJ)

She's simply not the poster child for racism from a marketing stand point. She's not a rich white guy or a skin head where people 'get it'. The idea that minorities are 'special' is accepted in some ways throughout the culture (the magical negro or the American Indian to name two).

It's also not a slam dunk quote for a lot of people. Racial pride can be  hateful but it can also be accepted in some dosages. If she said, "whites suck, I'll never rule for them" yeah, that you win. "I'm proud of the wisdom of my ancestors have given me" kind of thing is a harder sell.

I'm not saying it's right, just looking at the reality of the situation.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 04:23 PM (PLGGU)

81 Drew,

That depends on how you define 'win.' If we're looking to point out the identity politics to which the Left is married, then the 'win' looks certain.

This is precisely the right opportunity to take that bludgeon of racism and shove it right back in their self-righteous mugs. We're going to be called racist no matter how carefully we chose our battles, and this one will be no more difficult than any other.

It doesn't have to be an angry unfocused attack, but a line has to be drawn. Either we are in a post-racialist society or we aren't, and the more battles we shrink from, the harder each will be. We screw ourselves by letting the opposition pick the battle, the weapons, and the terms of debate. Sorry, it's time to break each of those.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 27, 2009 04:23 PM (kIjlp)

82

doublse, ugh, double. Typos....

The fact that the usual miserable troll shows up at #77 just before i finish typing at #78 just underscores my point.

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 04:24 PM (ujg0T)

83

Yeah, Circa, I momentarily forgot that Sessions is from Alabama and has already sounded off on this issue.

Hell, he's probably a cousin of mine.

Charles Barkley too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2009 04:25 PM (ZGhSv)

84

Either we are in a post-racialist society or we aren't

Out of the mouths of morons...

THERE is the line of attack.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 27, 2009 04:25 PM (B+qrE)

85 Isn't she BO's Harriet Myers?  Wonder who his real nominee is?   Wait, it's going to be that governor granholm who stuck her neck out for him so much in the campaign.

Posted by: muffy at May 27, 2009 04:25 PM (zplc6)

86 >>>The idea that minorities are 'special' is accepted in some ways throughout the culture (the magical negro or the American Indian to name two).

Tolerated by most, Drew. Tolerance is not acceptance. I don't think most white people are keen on the idea that minorities are their superiors because they're minorities. I think that rankles as, gee, kinda racist.

>>> Racial pride can be hateful but it can also be accepted in some dosages. If she said, "whites suck, I'll never rule for them" yeah, that you win. "I'm proud of the wisdom of my ancestors have given me" kind of thing is a harder sell.

Harder but not hard.

Look, yes, most people tolerate the double-standard here in a "what can you do" sort of way, but i do not agree they endorse it. They don't like it. they just roll with it because, well, you can't do much about it.

did you see my question about her going further than the standard diversity pap?





Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:26 PM (gEsIJ)

87 77

Wow.  Looks like a trained seal typed that with his nose.

Posted by: nickless at May 27, 2009 04:26 PM (MMC8r)

88 I am a minority but damn it, I hate it when non-whites (pardon me) whine and bitch about being oppressed, everyone else being a racist, not having the same opportunities, blah blah. If you get off your lazy ass, work hard and stop expecting handouts, you will succeed in this county (at least, you could before Obama became POTUS).

Posted by: IC at May 27, 2009 04:26 PM (jZNCU)

89
What gets me is how all these minorities and women claim absolute moral authority as if they were once slaves or they were alive before Suffrage.

All that stuff happened generations or even centuries ago and yet these diversity warriors still pull the victim card.

Posted by: Unicle, the at May 27, 2009 04:26 PM (DbnT7)

90 And, a further point. This isn't just about Sotomayor. She's going to win. Or, if somehow a skeleton gets dredged up (or this "racist" meme gets traction), someone equally bad will be nominated and confirmed.

It's about Obama's whole wrong-headed BS about "empathy."

After all, if you re-arrange the letters only slightly, you get, "ah -- empty."

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 04:27 PM (w9wXi)

91 That's going a bit further than the typical diversity monger, Drew. Do you agree?
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2009 04:17 PM (gEsIJ)

Out posts crossed but yes in general I agree.

The thing is, you have to explain that to people. I don't think most folks who are kind of sort paying attention get that off the bat. You have to explain how it's not the usual touchy felley shit. Then the diversitymongers come back with "oh that's not true, we are all different and have special gifts to celebrate" crap and then that's the discussion.

I say keep it simple...Justice is blind, she and Obama don't think that should be true. They think judges should give preference to some people over others in court.

It strikes me as that's something people get and it puts the left on the defensive.


Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 04:27 PM (PLGGU)

92
lol @ Allan Bakke

If nothing else, eggmcmuffin's choice of names are a always worth a chuckle.

Posted by: Unicle, the at May 27, 2009 04:30 PM (DbnT7)

93 It's not necessarily that her comments were racists, although they were. 

What she said needs to be placed in the context in which she, herself, placed them.  She referred to a statement made by Justice O'Connor, in which O'Connor remarked that a wise old man and wise old woman should reach the same decision.  In other words, it should make no difference the gender of the judge - what is right is right; what is constitutional is constitutional; the law means what it says, not what one might like it to say.

Sotomayor fundamentally disagreed, and expressed the view that one's interpretation of the law depends on one's race or gender, or both.  It is not asoffensive to me that the statement is overtly racist, but that it reflects a disposition to interpret the constitution not based on the text or the intent of the founders, but on "life experiences" or even the physiological differences of the judges.  It's troubling not only that she thinks and old man and and old woman would naturally reach different results, but also that she presumes her result would be superior.

Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 04:32 PM (Yv052)

94 I wouldn't tap her.

Posted by: Barry da man Obamacan at May 27, 2009 04:32 PM (NLtVk)

95 You honky fireman go stand in the back of the bus--the Constitution says you're second-class citizens. And keep your gringo fingers off the rich, Corinthian leather!

Posted by: Sonia "Harriet" Sotomayor at May 27, 2009 04:33 PM (7FgWm)

96 77 Soldier on, knuckleheads. Fight Fight Fight. You don't need the minority votes anyway. You have the Uncle Tom votes locked up.

What a pud hypocrite. ace. Alito and Rehnquist are/were racists. But, heh.

Yeah, and you aren't racist much are you?

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 04:33 PM (vZVv7)

97 Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 27, 2009 04:23 PM (kIjlp)

That's a fair point.

I'd like to fight the double standard of racism fight but to me the fight over the role of the Supreme Court is more important.

First, I think it's a more important issue to the country.

Second, I think making the conservative judicial case will help win elections in the next 2 cycles.

Third, I think in this particular case it's more winnable than hypocrisy or racism are.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 04:34 PM (PLGGU)

98

Judges are an issue that works for Republicans but you have to make the case. Calling her a racist isn't making that case.

Racist judges are an issue that works for Republicans. Judges who make the law based on their view of which race should benefit works for Republicans. If they have the balls to run on it.

Posted by: flenser at May 27, 2009 04:35 PM (JSel5)

99 By the way, does anyone know if Colin Powel has endorsed her yet?

Posted by: Chris Buckley at May 27, 2009 04:35 PM (HWSe/)

100 Keep "white males" out of the conversation. Make it about Le Raza. Make it about interpreting law vs. making policy. She will be confirmed, baring any serious missteps, but get your licks in.

Posted by: Javems at May 27, 2009 04:36 PM (/IQA9)

101 She's right.  Look at all the prosperity Latin women have brought to Mexico, Central and South America!

Angry White Dude

Posted by: Angry White Dude at May 27, 2009 04:36 PM (ohpqO)

102

From the link..."Experience is everything. You want richness and diversity on the Supreme Court," James Carville said. "She has a life experience she brings."

 

Wow... just think what a great candidate I would be will my rich experiences.

I've been top and bottom. And with lots of white men. And burros. And there was that time with Senor Cheney and a mountain lion.

Posted by: Tijuana Tranny Whore at May 27, 2009 04:37 PM (v/rEn)

103

@89

All that stuff happened generations or even centuries ago and yet these diversity warriors still pull the victim card.

In playing the race card, the guilt card is glued to the backside of it. Guilt will make otherwise rational folks do some crazy shit.

Take the last election, for example.

If you can somehow remain unemotional when everybody else is crying, you're automatically branded as cold-hearted and therefore subhuman for not following the crowd.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2009 04:37 PM (ZGhSv)

104 Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 04:32 PM (Yv052)

Exactly. The whole idea of "empathy," that somehow one's own life experiences should determine the interpretation of the Constitution, based on how similar (or different) the litigants' life experiences are to one's own, is fundamentally offensive, dangerous and retrogressive -- positively 19th century.

After all, that's the underlying philosophy of Plessy v. Ferguson, isn't it?

The liberals are basically saying that the only thing wrong with, for example, Plessy, is that there weren't enough minorities on the Court, not that the reasoning process was flawed.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 04:38 PM (w9wXi)

105 Third, I think in this particular case it's more winnable than hypocrisy or racism are. - DrewM.

True that. The best lines of questioning involve the originalist v. living Constitution and other judicial issues, but we can include the racialist stance in addition.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at May 27, 2009 04:39 PM (kIjlp)

106

the fight over the role of the Supreme Court is more important.

These are not separate issues. It is the conservative position that the role of the justices on the Supreme Court is, in part, to not be a special pleader for this or that ethnic group. Her racism is not separable from her defective understanding of the role of the courts.

Posted by: flenser at May 27, 2009 04:40 PM (JSel5)

107 DrewM...I also agree we can't keep giving up hills just because we know we can't win them.  Soon enough there are no hills to defend.  There is a way to craft this opposition where (God, I hope) most Americans will get it and agree.  And if she is defeated, maybe O nominates someone even worse.  But, we can't keep avoiding fights out of fear that the result may be worse.

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 04:14 PM (YBTwf)

Just to play out my Gettysburg analogy a bit...in this case we aren't on the hill, they are. The question is how do you go about attacking?  The tactics you use are different in each case.

We should be picking the tactic that is most likely to lead to our goal. In this case I think the goal is delegitimizing the liberal approach to the Supreme Court. I don't think calling her a racist gets us there.

Now I'd like to fight the notion that Democrats can do can attack minority Republicans but Republicans can't attack minority Democrats but that's not the fight here. At least to my mind.

Again, I have no problem fighting back when Dems say we are racist in attacking her but that's not the same as what Newt and Rush did.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 04:40 PM (PLGGU)

108 asdfklsdfajklsdfajklsdfajklsdfajklsdfakljsdfa!!!!!!

You are wrong!!! WRONG!!!1111ONE!

WORNG@!@@!#$

Posted by: erg at May 27, 2009 04:40 PM (kjPUj)

109 You guys don't want to believe me but my gut tells me she is the "practice nominee". the one who will endure the exhausting fights in the Senate and then the real nominee will be put up and will have to be rushed through so that they can take their place on the court.

Posted by: muffy at May 27, 2009 04:41 PM (zplc6)

110 There's no such thing as "reverse racist," its just racism or not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 27, 2009 04:41 PM (PQY7w)

111

“It’s not just that Supreme Court justices shouldn’t be racist. It’s that she cannot apparently conceive of any better qualification or recommendation for herself than the mundane accident of her sex and ethnicity.”

Actually, she attributes wisdom to herself, in addition to the “richness of her experiences.” In other words, she thinks she’s a “wise” racist, as opposed to a “foolish” racist, I suppose.

Posted by: CTN at May 27, 2009 04:42 PM (HWSe/)

112

Racist judges are an issue that works for Republicans. Judges who make the law based on their view of which race should benefit works for Republicans. If they have the balls to run on it.

Bingo. Put her to a vote, and let every real Republican senator vote her down. Just like the budget a while back. No bipartisan stamp. No more "nice guy" Ruth Bader Ginsburg treatment.

Sure we "lose", but given the Senate and President, we were going to get a lefty anyway.

We WIN when we get the message out. Having every real Republican senator vote her down send the message, loud and clear.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 04:42 PM (ujg0T)

113

I think she's going to show up to find that the other members of SCOTUS are less than impressed by her ability to craft a single paragraph and insist upon herlatinaself.

Or maybe they will have her robe personalized with her new nick name "The Magic Chica" and have a Pinata (white guy in a suit of course) waiting with cake and punch.

Posted by: Roadking at May 27, 2009 04:43 PM (A7Dvh)

114 Persons who represent oppressed groups cannot be racists.

You know that awkward, uncomfortable lull in a conversation when someone really naive and insulated from the real world says something embarrassingly stupid and out of touch with reality?

You just did that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 27, 2009 04:45 PM (PQY7w)

115 The GOP opposes this nomination, Hispanics vote heavily for Obama in 2012 because the republicans opposed it.

The GOP supports the nomination, Hispanics vote heavily for Obama in 2012 for putting a Latina on the Supreme Court.

Number two is the winning strategy, fellow weeners! Appease!

Posted by: David Frum at May 27, 2009 04:45 PM (93F13)

116 I do not like the term "reverse racist" either.  Hispanic supremacist, I can dig that. 

Posted by: Dan F at May 27, 2009 04:45 PM (79OIm)

117

Persons who represent oppressed groups cannot be racists.

May some of those oppressed groups bash your head in, Reginald Denny style. It would teach you a lesson. Or rape and kill you and your mate (Wichita, Knoxville, among other places). Or burn your house down, which your brainwashed mind would no longer romanticize as a "long hot summer"

Can I play?

You should be forced to play (see above).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 27, 2009 04:47 PM (ujg0T)

118 Heck, if all you want is a Puerto Rican woman with a compelling life story, why not Rosie Perez?

She'd be a lot easier on the eyes, and no more painful to the ears.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 04:48 PM (w9wXi)

119 What "richness of her experience?  She went to private schools.  Ok, so she grew up in the south Bronx, it's not like she lived their alone.  She then went to what, two ivy league schools, probably on scholarship due to affirmative action and then managed to land a slew of great career building jobs.   Her entire ride she was helped along.  So what, she is the "perfect nominee" cause she is female and Puerto Rican?  that in and of itself smacks of recism.  The Supreme Court is supposed to do the right thing and function effectively even if it was stocked with a bunch of non english speakers.  Whoever brought up this business of it having to be balanced in terms of ethnicity and all these other factors is nuts.  This is the same when they hire my black female friend and you can see them saying "oh we hit two points, she is balck and she is a woman" not wow, we are lucky to get her, she is a smart cookie and she knows her stuff, she will really be an asset.  This hurts her sometimes cause they don't expect her to be as good as she is cause they hried her to fill quotas.  Clarence Thomas was right.

Posted by: muffy at May 27, 2009 04:48 PM (zplc6)

120

I kind of like the twist somebody's blog put out and posted with linky (here) in recent days at AoSHQ that she's yet another Catholic (NTTATWWT) on the bench, which is not reflective of the country, per se. Interesting arguement if nothing else.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 04:49 PM (cxzu3)

121

"You know that awkward, uncomfortable lull in a conversation when someone really naive and insulated from the real world says something embarrassingly stupid and out of touch with reality?"

You actually understood that  drivel?

Posted by: Javems at May 27, 2009 04:53 PM (/IQA9)

122 "Reginald Denny style. "

It's always the anecdote proves everything for you stupid fuckers. Always.

    Nothing is as it appears to be!

Fight, knuckleheads. Fight!!

Just keep turning that knife in your own back.  No self-respecting "hispanic" will ever vote Republican.

HaHahahaho.

Just so you know, folks...this is ergie. Have fun with him, but be gentle. After all, this is an ADA compliant blog.

Posted by: Allan Bakke at May 27, 2009 04:53 PM (bolEJ)

123 Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 04:49 PM (cxzu3)

That is pretty good, but the point is that it's not personal. It's not about stopping Sotomayor. The RINOs and others that say that she's about as not-bad as we can expect from Obama are correct.

So, again, don't make it personal -- unless it's personally about Obama. She may be mediocre. She may be racist. But those aren't the big problems. The biggest problem is the bullshit that Obama is spewing, and the MSM, etc. are lapping up, about "empathy" and "5%" and "the last mile of a marathon" and all that crap.

And they have to be called on it. This is, as Commie educators like Bill Ayers like to say, a "teachable moment."

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 04:54 PM (w9wXi)

124 What is a "rich" life experience?

"Life experience" is what idiots have instead of common sense. Normal, reasonably intelligent people learn from the experiences of others whenever possible. Life is less painful that way.

When someone tells you that fire will burn you, it's better to learn from their experience rather than sticking your hand in the BBQ pit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2009 04:55 PM (oT+Ek)

125 It's fun when the trolls come in and vent incomprehensibly.

I especially like when they have to type out their supposed laughter.

Very convincing.  Very Harvard debate club.

Very rubber room.

Posted by: nickless at May 27, 2009 04:56 PM (MMC8r)

126

"teachable moment."

I pray that conservatives can do it, notropis, but frankly I'm just not very enthused with the current mouthpieces.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 04:57 PM (cxzu3)

127 The diversity of different cocks that have been in my mouth make my wisdom superior to yours, ace.

Posted by: erg at May 27, 2009 05:00 PM (3Z0VR)

128 "I'm just not very enthused with the current mouthpieces."

Me neither. But I've been positively surprised before, and Jeff Sessions, for one, could score some real points -- as long as he steers clear of the "racism" angle (which, again, is personal, and not especially useful.)

A conservative white guy from Alabama is not the best mouthpiece for that one. But attacking the whole "empathy" v "impartiality" thing would be an entirely different story.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 05:01 PM (w9wXi)

129 So, "Bakke," how many different hashes do you think you need before you feel "safe" posting here?

Brave, brave troll.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 05:03 PM (w9wXi)

130 Are you sure it's erg?  Sounds more like the spit-flinging incomprehensibility of T Dub, and he's apparently doing to rotating hash/proxy thing, too.

Posted by: nickless at May 27, 2009 05:03 PM (MMC8r)

131 Posted by: Allan Bakke at May 27, 2009 05:00 PM (3Z0VR)

How you doing erg?

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 05:04 PM (PLGGU)

132 You know what I could use? A really empathetic teabagging.

From a Nigerian guy!

And a Chinese one, and an Italian, and one of those really hot Brazilians.

My mouth is ready to celebrate multiculturalism.

Posted by: erg at May 27, 2009 05:06 PM (3Z0VR)

133 She's just doin' the job White Supreme Court Justice Nominees won't do.

Posted by: FishFearMe at May 27, 2009 05:08 PM (DL7CT)

134 Posted by: Allan Bakke at May 27, 2009 05:06 PM (3Z0VR)

Nice try, 'lil troll.  I see you have yet to work on those anger issues.  All that hate's gonna burn you up, kid.

Posted by: Slublog at May 27, 2009 05:08 PM (R8TOo)

135 As I've said before, a Latina womyn is intellectually incapable of interpreting a document written by white men, and she is therefore unqualified.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 05:09 PM (BRTk9)

136 erg is sock puppeting, talking about self-respecting hispanics.

I wonder why they would vote Dem given how Miguel Estrada was treated by Dem senators.  Ah, the mysteries of life.

BTW Happy Cinco be Quartro, erg.

Posted by: sears poncho at May 27, 2009 05:09 PM (uj/0b)

137 I've always hated the term "reverse racism."  It implies that "racism" is inherently white behavior by default, as if we invented or even dominate the flaw.  Or, reverse racism sounds like the belief that your race is inferior to others, like the self-deprecation many liberal whites and some blacks engage in.

Racism is racism, regardless if it's George Wallace blocking black students from attending school, Jesse Jackson calling Jews "hymies," Barack Obama calling his grandmother a "typical white person" or an unqualified SCOTUS nominee tooting the horn of superiority because she's a Hispanic female.

Posted by: Crusty at May 27, 2009 05:11 PM (GvSpB)

138
It's eggmcmuffin. It likes to use cutesy names that shows how well-read or well-informed it is. But eggmcmuffin's smarts are the typical campus-think you can find anywhere.

Posted by: Unicle, the at May 27, 2009 05:11 PM (DbnT7)

139 Hi erg! That's some bug you got up the poop shute today. Calm down before you have a stroke.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 05:13 PM (7FgWm)

140
erg?

hahaha, yeah.

Remember when you were von Hayek? And what was that old boxer's name you used?

Posted by: Unicle, the at May 27, 2009 05:14 PM (DbnT7)

141

"No self-respecting "hispanic" will ever vote Republican."

Hmmm....around these parts a lot of them run for office as Republicans. I get the feeling erg only knows about minorities in the theoretical sense, not from any rich personal experience.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at May 27, 2009 05:20 PM (ACDor)

142 So all you have to do to get nominated for a position is get tapped by Barracky, ooooh I welcome that!!!! Start tapping Barack, start tapping, tap me all night long my ebony prince.....

Posted by: Honest Cloud at May 27, 2009 05:20 PM (RNwpX)

143 If she were 20 years younger and not so crazy, I might hit it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 27, 2009 04:01 PM (m1kcI)

As a Rican Latina, she is eminently qualified to receive a Dirty Sanchez. 

Posted by: Fish at May 27, 2009 05:25 PM (FnA4R)

144 i wonder if she's a member of La Raza?

Posted by: shoey at May 27, 2009 05:34 PM (RxUMK)

145 "...Why are we fighting on ground of their choosing? It's simply bad tactics..."

Drew

Not trying to pick a fight, but it seems there is never a good time or place for a fight for you. This was what the bruhaha with "conservative principles" was about. You have standards and principles and you stick with them every time. There will never be a right time or place if we never fight ever. That's why they're called fights - they're messy, and someone gets hurt.

By pointing out her racism, we are fighting exactly against the way Liberals see the law. Her feelings about race have clearly colored at least one of her opinions - the latest. THAT is wrong and SHE is wrong. If she had a perfect record of judgyness, BUT was ALSO a racist, that would fit more into your point. She lets her racism effect her judging. That is very much a winning strategy.

Too many are simply afraid to lay out racists unless they are White. That is BS.

She made her statement, and then she backed it up with her ridiculous ruling. This is like finally getting your shot at the title, and turning down the fight because they made you wear red trunks.

Posted by: JS at May 27, 2009 05:35 PM (Sd/wB)

146

"I know i'm not supposed to say this..."

She might as well finish the sentence honestly: "... but, since I'm a media-protected class I can say whatever the fuck I want and it will be disappeared.  Even if some cracker geek digs it up on the intertubes, our "watchdogs" will find out he was late with child-support back in '87 or some such shit, and I'll skate in like I'm in the fucking Ice Capades.  That's what I mean by the richness of my experiences, hon."

Posted by: sherlock at May 27, 2009 05:35 PM (L4jPh)

147 Posted by: Honest Cloud at May 27, 2009 05:20 PM (RNwpX)

You forgot the hetero disclaimer....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2009 05:38 PM (oT+Ek)

148 "8 That and having 60% over her rulings overturned should disqualify her."

Ricci will make it 66.6666666666

Posted by: Derek Zoolander at May 27, 2009 05:38 PM (Gzb30)

149 The libs always attack and defend nothing. they will try to attack as a pack. (always in greater numbers.. like a pack of  hyenas) Turn and defend yourself, they will nip and make you bleed until you die...Make them defend themselves and they will run away into the night.   Be nice nowever, they are never nice when they are in the presence of some one who knows the facts...

Posted by: Mystry at May 27, 2009 05:38 PM (dIHlE)

150

Somewhat ott, but during Sotomayor's nomination, Obama mentioend that the US Constitution was written 20 centuries ago, either that, or he thinks that the US should become a theocracy.:

 

http://tinyurl.com/r75zo3

Posted by: adagioforstrings at May 27, 2009 05:41 PM (Kfsai)

151 I have to believe that surely a white male - you know, the sort of person that wrote the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights (not to mention, invented democracy in ancient Greece, the Republican form of government in ancient Rome, and the Parliamentary rule of law in medieval England) - can better serve as a member of the Supreme Court of the United States than some off-color Latina woman!

How am I wrong? Explain that without implying that this non-descript Latina racist is wrong, too.

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 27, 2009 05:45 PM (iafWn)

152 "Gingrich today joined the chorus of conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, who called Sotomayor a 'reverse racist.'"

There is no such thing as "reverse racism".
It's just plain old fashioned rascism.  Leftists invented this term to differentiate between "real racism" and racism against whites.  The sooner we stop using this stupid phrase, the better.

Posted by: RayJ at May 27, 2009 05:46 PM (87de7)

153

of course we are going to lose this fight, we don't have the numbers, doesn't mean we shouldn't fight, doesn't mean we have to fire every bullet.

 

Posted by: shoey at May 27, 2009 05:46 PM (RxUMK)

154 The term "reverse racist" is a perfect example of why this country is doomed. We let them dictate every damn thing WE do or say or think, we play by THEIR rules, and then we sit and wonder why we lost again. And again...

Posted by: JS at May 27, 2009 05:51 PM (Sd/wB)

155 sotomayor's comment was pretty dumb, and at the very least, ill-phrased.

but what I think she meant is that as a women of latin descent, she can offer perspective that a white man cannot.

and I also dismiss the ludicrous reverse analogy of what if a white man said the reverse. Well, if the supreme court consists of 0 white males, a white male would have some relevance in saying he can offer a perspective that currently is prob not available on the court.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 05:53 PM (VDj74)

156 i think the best we can do is make sure everyone understands she's an uber-lefty who's gonna be best pals with Ruth "Lenin with Tits" Ginsberg

Posted by: shoey at May 27, 2009 05:54 PM (RxUMK)

157 Not trying to pick a fight, but it seems there is never a good time or place for a fight for you.
Posted by: JS at May 27, 2009 05:35 PM (Sd/wB)

I might be more taken with your point if I hadn't said several times in this thread and a main page post within an hour of her nomination that we should fight and fight hard.

The reason I don't want to fight on her 'racism' isn't because I'm affraid, it's because I don't think we'll win with it.  There are more important issues at stake (in my mind) and better ways to argue them.

Simply not adopting your preferred line of attack doesn't make one affraid of a fight.




Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 05:55 PM (PLGGU)

158 I cannot imagine this woman "struggled" for anything outside of landing a prom date. Discrimination has been illegal all her life. Affirmative action has been in effect her entire life. She most likely got preferential treatment every time she encountered "the system". If she had to "struggle" to meet even the lowered standards in effect for minorities, I question her qualifications for the job. Let's see your SAT and LSAT scores, senorita. Let's see your record of judicial decisions and their rate of reversal. I already know I stand unequal before the law in your courtroom, but I'm not convinced you have any business being there in the first place.

Posted by: lmg at May 27, 2009 05:58 PM (Qt4Y7)

159 I'll admit I'm not terribly perceptive, but would anybody even know she was a latina just from looking at her and knowing her name? I'm sure glad it's pointed out every single time she's mentioned, even by herself. 

Posted by: Splinter at May 27, 2009 05:59 PM (+yf8/)

160

 

 

Hey, the ISSUE where she is the weakest is her revolutionary ruling that a state or  municipality may adopt weapon prohibition laws  which restrict  the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.  That will be the litmus test, not racism, nor other "liberal" positions.  Get the word out to those Senators on the Judiciary Committee who think Americans  have the constitutional right to carry and use firearms. 

Posted by: old one at May 27, 2009 06:00 PM (6mflQ)

161
???

I don't get it - what's the "sex scandal" in the headline?

Posted by: Lyford at May 27, 2009 06:00 PM (LJPyb)

162 Palin steele,  quick, wipe your mouth, you have some of Obama dripping off.....

Posted by: Todd at May 27, 2009 06:01 PM (RNwpX)

163 todd, that was uncalled for.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:04 PM (VDj74)

164

107...DrewM

I get that you're advocating a different approach, not ducking the fight.  So we're square there.  I would argue that we are always on the hill, we're the one's losing ground. 

I don't think labeling the words is necessary.  Just have them repeated over and over and over and over...most people know that what she said isn't what they want in a SCJ.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 06:04 PM (YBTwf)

165 "most people know that what she said isn't what they want in a SCJ"

strict constuctionalists wouldn't...im not sure thats the stance of 'most' people. If you ask most people, I think a majority would actually say that they would like their judges to common sense, fairness, etc into their decision making process as opposed to just literal translation of the constitution. Im sure a poll exists on this topic somewhere.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:08 PM (VDj74)

166 155...if you have to "think" what a SCJ meant, then there's trouble.  Wouldn't the ability to articulate your point clearly and concisely, especially in pre-determined words, be a job prerequisite.  Behind being female and latin, of course. 

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 06:09 PM (YBTwf)

167 Honestly, the average person is more concerned with the result than the process. They could care less how judges arrive at their decisions as long as the result is one they deem proper...ie, overwhelming majority of Americans would think Brown v Board of Ed to be a good and necessary decision...whereas hardcore strict constructionalists don't.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:10 PM (VDj74)

168 165...most people don't want a judge who thinks she's wiser than them just beacuse of her gender/race. 

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 06:10 PM (YBTwf)

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There is a bit of racism in her statement, but certain segments of society have been allowed this until they are called on the carpet for it.  I am glad to see this happening, what is good for one is for another.  An equally vexing problem is that she is a activist judge, she legislates from the bench.  Funny she does this, and 0bama wanted an empathetic justice, yet the whole idea is contrary to the exact oath she would be given to become a justice.  She is under oath to do the opposite of what she is proclaiming to do.

Posted by: Mickey at May 27, 2009 06:14 PM (sDuVh)

170 "Simply not adopting your preferred line of attack doesn't make one affraid of a fight"

Drew

I wasn't implying that you are afraid, although re-reading, I can see how it could be taken as such. That was not my intent.

It's more that waiting for the fight you are guaranteed to win, will be a reeeeealy long wait. I think we need to start standing up to every "bully" they put out there, as sometimes the mere act of calling another out, is a "win", a signal that, you know what Libs?, we're sick and fucking tired of your hypocrisy and double-standards, etc, and you WILL be hearing from us from now on. No one fought Barry on his racism, and look at how that turned out.

Posted by: JS at May 27, 2009 06:15 PM (Sd/wB)

171 what I think she meant is that as a women of latin descent, she can offer perspective that a white man cannot.
Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 05:53 PM

Perspective? How about interpretation of The Constitution? Kiss my perspective.

Posted by: FishFearMe at May 27, 2009 06:17 PM (DL7CT)

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Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2009 06:18 PM (iy1Xt)

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"MOst americans view Brown v. the Board as a just and necessary decision"?

Most americans have no fucking clue what Brown v. the Board says, including you, I would hazard. Because like most liberals, you like to spew horseshit about things you know nothing about.

Posted by: TMF at May 27, 2009 06:23 PM (ZV8JG)

174 and I also dismiss the ludicrous reverse analogy of what if a white man said the reverse.

Despite your continuous use of the word "reverse", you snivelling pussy, a white man did make that analogy when he said:

As I've said before, a Latina womyn is intellectually incapable of interpreting a document written by white men, and she is therefore unqualified.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 05:09 PM (BRTk9)

It's a racially offensive statement, as is the Latina Lawyer's.  It is also a hell of a lot more logically consistent than this Affirmative Action cunt spewing such bullshit as: "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life"

Get your fuckin' shinebox, you pusillanimous little twit.  It's in your Mama's basement. 

We're sick of your side's shit.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 06:24 PM (BRTk9)

175 "whereas hardcore strict constructionalists don't."

You could not possibly be more wrong. And your total ignorance of Constitutional law is laid bare, with one particularly asinine post.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 06:25 PM (w9wXi)

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given that the Republicans in power can't bring themselves to say that an organization that calls itself "The Race" is racist, why even bother with statements like this?  We are supposed to not waste our time with this fight but trust that Orrin Hatch and his ilk will fight like lions on "more important" issues?  The GOP senators line up to kiss Kennedy's ass despite his lies-couldn't one senator call him out for being the vicious partisan liar that he is. 

Posted by: ed at May 27, 2009 06:26 PM (JbI00)

177 ummm, calm down.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:26 PM (VDj74)

178 I think she's going to be Barack's David Souter.

Posted by: mrp at May 27, 2009 06:29 PM (HjPtV)

179 And just think...we'll very probably have fight this same battle over again once or twice more before we can get Obama out of the WH.  What rotten fucking luck to have all these SC appointments coming up during his rule.  The stench of psycho liberal policies will linger for decades in the SC.  Garbage like Kelo can do more damage to the nation than an entire session of Congress.
I do think it was clever of BO to nominate someone as young as possible.  That chica is gonna be around crapping her rich experience all over the SC for a looooong time.

Posted by: Flubber at May 27, 2009 06:30 PM (/ykD9)

180

palin steele,

Why do I have this mental image of you standing over me wagging one finger?.   No it was not uncalled for. This is a comments section, for , you know, comments....

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Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:26 PM (VDj74)

Umm, jam it up your ass, you self important little fuck.  A lot of fucking people have had it with the divide and conquer, outcome based, Kumbaya fucking bullshit.  Why?  Because it always leads to you fucking pussies taking our labor, our money, and our Liberty.  It always leads to illiterate fucks with government sponsored power taking over, little by little, aspects of our lives that are none of your, or anyone else's business.  You calm down with your smalldick, I must control personality disorder.  Fuck you, you prick.  It's close to meltdown.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 06:32 PM (BRTk9)

183 They could care less how judges arrive at their decisions as long as the result is one they deem proper

Exactly the problem with "living constitutionalists" and Sotomayor.  "I don't care how you get there, you can make it up as you go along as far as I am concerned, use any reasoning you like, AS LONG AS MY SIDE WINS."

That is judicial activism in a nutshell.

Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 06:33 PM (Yv052)

184 Right angler,
and palin steele is too fucking stupid to understand it.

Posted by: MrDIe at May 27, 2009 06:36 PM (8tl6j)

185 uhhh Mr. DIe, I do understand that sotomayor would prob bring judicial activism to the court. I never denied that.


Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:42 PM (VDj74)

186 I do understand that sotomayor would prob bring judicial activism to the court. I never denied that.

Run "Do you think that a Supreme Court Justice should employ judicial activism in reaching decisions?" through your magic public opinion poll meter you refer to.  I don't think you'll be pleased with the results.

Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 06:48 PM (Yv052)

187 Yes, and you seem to like that.  Do you even read what you write?

Posted by: MrDIe at May 27, 2009 06:48 PM (8tl6j)

188 "Run "Do you think that a Supreme Court Justice should employ judicial activism in reaching decisions?" through your magic public opinion poll meter you refer to.  I don't think you'll be pleased with the results."

the public doesn't have a clue what judicial activism means.

I truly think if the public really understood what judicial activism is and its implications, the majority would support it.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:50 PM (VDj74)

189 I truly think if the public really understood what judicial activism is and its implications, the majority would support it.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:50 PM (VDj74)

My bad.  I'd forgotten that you were smarter than me.  Good God go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 06:52 PM (BRTk9)

190 the public doesn't have a clue what judicial activism means.  I truly think if the public really understood what judicial activism is and its implications, the majority would support it.

I disagree on both counts.  Yet it is interesting to me that you praise the wisdom of "most people" when you think it supports you, yet proclaim the ignorance of them when it doesn't.  Interesting, but not surprising.

Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 06:53 PM (Yv052)

191 "but what I think she meant is that as a women of latin descent, she can offer perspective that a white man cannot."

This is nonsense on stilts.  She said nothing about "perspective".  She said her conclusions would be -better- than a white man's.  -Better-.  Not "from a different perspective".  -Better-.  You can try to polish that racist turd all you want, but it's still -outright-, -blatant- racism.

And I say this as a Cuban, myself born in Puerto Rico.  The woman is every bit as hyper racist as La Raza.  We're talking KKK levels of racism among these morons.  And here you are making excuses for it.  You ought to be ashamed.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at May 27, 2009 06:55 PM (/y1J0)

192 And I say this as a Cuban, myself born in Puerto Rico.

Shit, Qwinn.  I didn't know you were brown.  Now I'm frightened.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 06:59 PM (BRTk9)

193 Wow, palin steele, after evidencing your total stupidity regarding "strict constructionalism" at post 167 in your account of Brown v BoE, you're not embarrassed enough to just quit posting?

Wonder what it would take....

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 06:59 PM (w9wXi)

194 "Yet it is interesting to me that you praise the wisdom of "most people" when you think it supports you"

Where did I praise the wisdom of 'most people'? Stop making crap up.

Posted by: palin steele at May 27, 2009 06:59 PM (VDj74)

195 Qwinn @ 191

I think we need to cut her some slack, what with being a latina and a woman.  I'm surprised she could even speak in complete sentences with those kinds of handicaps.  It's no wonder liberals need to be around to "interpret" what she says.

/sarcasm induced by the soft bigotry of low expectations

Posted by: sears poncho at May 27, 2009 07:03 PM (uj/0b)

196 194...see your post 165...

Posted by: The Hammer at May 27, 2009 07:04 PM (YBTwf)

197 Where did I praise the wisdom of 'most people'? Stop making crap up.

im not sure thats the stance of 'most' people. If you ask most people, I think a majority would actually say that they would like their judges to common sense, fairness, etc into their decision making process as opposed to just literal translation of the constitution. Im sure a poll exists on this topic somewhere.

overwhelming majority of Americans would think Brown v Board of Ed to be a good and necessary decision...whereas hardcore strict constructionalists don't.

Please.  I'm willing to argue with you, as long as you do so in good faith (even if you are a retard).  But lying about what you said?  I have no interest in whipping you further.  Have the last, floundering spittle.

Posted by: angler at May 27, 2009 07:08 PM (Yv052)

198 Shit, Qwinn.  I didn't know you were brown.  Now I'm frightened.

Heh.  I'm paler than Palin sans her tanning bed.  It's okay though.  My richer life experience gives me the wisdom to understand that it's not my skin color that makes me better than you, it's my genetic racial superiority.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at May 27, 2009 07:14 PM (/y1J0)

199

Posted by: Qwinn at May 27, 2009 07:14 PM (/y1J0)

And I don't doubt for a second that you'd be a better SCJ than that Latina woman.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 07:17 PM (BRTk9)

200 "My richer life experience gives me the wisdom to understand that it's not my skin color that makes me better than you, it's my genetic racial superiority."

heh

(And now I almost feel bad about starting that "Qwinn" thread. Although your genetic racial superiority should allow you to rise above my juvenile taunting -- I hope.)

Qwinn

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 07:20 PM (w9wXi)

201 Posted by: JS at May 27, 2009 06:15 PM (Sd/wB)

I'm really looking at this from a marketing perspective.

Most people will spend 15 minutes or so total over the next 3 months thinking about Sotomayor. They won't do the research, they won't understand the finer points of the argument.

People will look at Newt, Rush and others calling her a racist and then they will look at her, hear the bullet points of her story and think, "WTF are they talking about? She's not a racist, she's a person who has a great story and made it this far, those guys are nuts".

I honestly want to have the 'Republicans are racist fight' but we need a better villain (for want of a better term). 

The she's 'a cheater' argument is easier to make, it doesn't have the associated baggage and is important.

I think my biggest issue is, there's only so much people focus on. You can't really fight 2 or 3 lines of attack, you need a single narrative that's simple and believable.

I wish it were otherwise, I just don't think it is.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 07:36 PM (PLGGU)

202 palin steele, do you get dizzy from all of the contortions your lies and spinning put you through?

It's tough being stupid liberal but sheesh. 

Question:  Do you support judicial activism because you believe most people support it or because you actually believe its a good thing?

Posted by: MrDIe at May 27, 2009 07:38 PM (8tl6j)

203 Posted by: DrewM. at May 27, 2009 07:36 PM (PLGGU)

Understood. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think she merits attacks on all points, simply because they are all valid. The racist thingy has big old legs because it's not a he said/ she said thing. We have the quote which, face it, if it were reversed, would be nucular to a White male. And since only White males can be racist, it is deliciously delicious to say "Oh yeah? Read this" and then watch her twist and squirm and cite "context". And as a bonus, we could tie it in to Barry himself - resurrect his racist (Wright) past. One racist promoting another for SCOTUS.

My point is that if the point is valid, use it. By skipping it, you tacitly forgive it. Face it, if the public won't pay attention to the racist thing, why will they pay attention to anything? She will be confirmed, but have on record EVERY reason she is opposed.

Posted by: JS at May 27, 2009 08:50 PM (Sd/wB)

204

Drew M is right on.  How can you accuse a Latina woman of racism?     Minorities can't be racist.

 

Let's fight it out on the lines Drew M likes, like her hair style!  Its so 70s.  And her clothes, it looks like she shops at KMart.

 

Let's ignore her statements, her record and buy the Kool Aide Drew offers.    After all he's a true conservative!  Just like comrade Putin is a democrat, well actually in the USA he'd be one. 

Let every Dhimmiecrat bray proudly that only a Latina woman (or trannie) CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERY WORKER EXPERIENCES IN THE OFFICE.  ONLY A LATINA WOMAN CAN UNDERSTAND POVERTY.  As well as black, gay male trannies.

So resistance is futile.   Assume a fetal position and allow your moral superiors to dictate the racial quotas that will create a new Zimbabwe as per the desires of our Fearless Leader, the one, the only, der Fuhrer.

Posted by: T Dub at May 27, 2009 08:59 PM (B8gqF)

205 WOW !!!  Hey good people, let's calm down a bit and realize who the real enemy(the libs for you who forgot this for a minute) really is.. Let us not not have this cancer spread among us..Save it for those who really hate us.

Posted by: Mystry at May 27, 2009 09:03 PM (dIHlE)

206 "Posted by: T Dub at May 27, 2009 08:59 PM (B8gqF)"

T Dub, a bit of advice:

Leave sarcasm to the people who aren't total fucking idiots.

Posted by: notropis at May 27, 2009 09:38 PM (tqmsN)

Posted by: lee at May 27, 2009 10:10 PM (DCyrw)

208 http://tinyurl.com/258zvk  This is a link to the Above the Law blog where they are asking the question:  Should Judge Sotomayor be confirmed in a poll.  So far the no's are losing badly to the overwhelmingly positive yes guys.  So you should all weigh in.

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