North Korea Claims To Have Conducted A Nuclear Test. And More? Report N. Korea Also Launched A Short Range Missile

The country's official Korean Central News Agency reported that the test was carried out Monday.
Lee Dong-kwan, a spokesman for the South Korean president, says that a nuclear test may have been carried out in the North.
Seismologists from the U.S., South Korea and Japan reported earthquakes in an northeastern area, where North Korea conducted a nuclear test in 2006.
A 4.7-magnitude earthquake was registered in northeastern North Korea at 9:54 a.m. (0054 GMT), the U.S. Geological Survey said.

And then this...

Just hours later, North Korea appears to have test-fired a short-range missile, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.
Pyongyang has so far not commented on Yonhap's report.

Slow Joe Biden may have underestimated the number of people lining up to test Obama.

More: Just for fun, I checked to see if N. Korea was part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. They were, until they go caught in 2003 and then they bailed out. It's almost like treaties don't, you know, stop countries from doing whatever they want.

BTW, what did the N. Koreans say back in the day?

The official Korean Central News Agency said that, although Pyongyang was pulling out of the NPT, it had no intention of producing nuclear weapons.
"Our nuclear activities at this stage will be confined only to peaceful purposes such as the production of electricity," Friday's statement said.

Just like the Iranians, sans the Jew baiting of course.

Tomorrow's Conventional Wisdom Today...This failure of diplomacy clearly shows the need for more diplomacy. The Six Party Talks have done nothing to stop N. Korea's nuclear program. Obviously this demonstrates the importance of redoubling efforts to conduct more Six Party Talks.

Just remember...missile defense remains unproven. However, when it comes to diplomacy, especially 'smart' and 'tough' diplomacy, everyday is a new day.

Ah, the building CW (at least according to CNNI reporters and analysts)... North Korea only reacts to carrots, not sticks, so start handing out the carrots! Again, this unfortunately runs afoul of all experience.

Hey, guess who published a piece called "Get Ready for Another North Korean Nuke Test" just 5 days ago? John "The Mustache" Bolton, that's who.

If the next nuclear explosion doesn't derail the six-party talks, Kim will rightly conclude that he faces no real danger of ever having to dismantle his weapons program. North Korea is a mysterious place, but there is no mystery about its foreign-policy tactics: They work. The real mystery is why our administrations -- Republican and Democratic -- haven't learned that their quasi-religious faith in the six-party talks is misplaced.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently rejected "linkage" in Russia policy as "old thinking." Disagreement in one area, she argued, shouldn't prevent working on "something else that is of overwhelming importance." Whatever the merits of linkage vis-à-vis Russia, de-linking a second North Korean nuclear test from the six-party talks simply hands Pyongyang permission to proceed.
Even worse, Iran and other aspiring nuclear proliferators will draw precisely the same conclusion: Negotiations like the six-party talks are a charade and reflect a continuing collapse of American resolve. U.S. acquiescence in a second North Korean nuclear test will likely mean that Tehran will adopt Pyongyang's successful strategy.

So, we've got that to look forward to.

Posted by: DrewM. at 10:39 PM

Comments

1 I want to say something snarky and funneh, but I'm too busy digging my fallout shelter.

Posted by: XBradTC at May 24, 2009 10:43 PM (HZGpT)

2 How could The Sheriff have let this happen? At least no one knows where his secret bunker is.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at May 24, 2009 10:44 PM (JyfVU)

It's being reported here on Canadian media that it was a unicorn-fission device of 1.02 megaskittles. And there are pics of the cotton candy cloud breaking out of the underground bunker visible on air satellite photos. More news to come, shortly.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2009 10:45 PM (MB+jN)

4 I just want to give a very special shout out to Jimmy Carter, without whom this would not be possible.

C'mon, Jimmy, don't be shy. Stand up and take a bow.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 10:45 PM (Dec0Z)

5 I want to say something snarky and funneh, but I'm too busy digging my fallout shelter.

I'd say that qualifies, but it's hard to tell from 30 feet under concrete.

Posted by: Drumwaster at May 24, 2009 10:45 PM (Ymor3)

6 It's a special feeling being within range of an NK missile.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 10:47 PM (Dec0Z)

7 Their last test fizzled since it was based on a flawed Pakistani design. I wonder if they improved on it this time.

Plutonium is pretty twitchy, and requires very precise engineering to get it to detonate, something that NK isn't known for. On the other hand you could almost slam together by hand two subcritical U235 pieces and likely get some kind of explosion.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 24, 2009 10:48 PM (7z9RL)

8 Quick Obama will jump into action to prevent the west coast from being under threat! Now, Idaho, Utah, Montana, not so much. They are states that didn't vote for him!

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 10:48 PM (bwCsF)

9 Can't tell you how happy I am that the Jug Eared Fuck, isn't going to be putting any money into that stinky missile defense thingy.

Seriously, fund that AND ACORN?

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 24, 2009 10:50 PM (vZVv7)

10 Do you have any idea how fucking busy I am?

Posted by: Kim Jong-il at May 24, 2009 10:52 PM (SqDdD)

11 Obviously we didn't make enough concessions yet.

Posted by: lmg at May 24, 2009 10:53 PM (Qt4Y7)

The very next pargraph.in the article following the excerpted quote is :

"The quake, measured at a depth of 6 miles (10 kilometers) underground, occurred 40 miles (70 kilometers) northwest of the city of Kimchaek, the USGS said."

(emphasis mine)

This seems a bit deep for a nuclear test site. I think that there are a few mines that are 2 or so miles deep.

This sounds like a true geologic event that the NK's are capitalizing on.

I vote for the 24 hour rule.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 24, 2009 10:54 PM (Bg4Sb)

13 I'm sure Obama is preparing a sternly worded letter at this very moment....with exclamation points and some words in all caps...even.

Posted by: Tami at May 24, 2009 10:55 PM (VuLos)

14 Churchill & lmg

"North Korea conducts nuclear test. Sheriff nowhere to be seen and Obama wondering if he needs to make more concessions, news at 10 on Olberdouche."

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 10:55 PM (xfm1e)

15 I for one would like to thank President Obama for creating or saving 300 million U.S. lives today.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at May 24, 2009 10:56 PM (JyfVU)

16 But I was certain that by now he'd understand that we mean him no harm. If only he'd unclench his fist.

Posted by: Powdered Milk Man at May 24, 2009 10:56 PM (SqDdD)

17 12,

Hmmm, perhaps patience is in order here.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 10:58 PM (Dec0Z)

18 Arbalest,

Actually it looks like it could be a real test. It's like right on the fucking spot where they test at Hwadae-ri.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 10:58 PM (xfm1e)

19 I guess those "severe repercussions" from the missile test didn't exactly do the trick.

Posted by: exceller at May 24, 2009 10:59 PM (6beBT)

20 After all these months and years of worrying about being overtaken by socialist communists or Islamic extremists, wouldn't it be a kick in the teeth if we were, instead, wiped out by a crappy little country run by an undersized lunatic?

Posted by: katya at May 24, 2009 10:59 PM (oRJZj)

21 http://alturl.com/ikab
That's today's map.

http://alturl.com/dtmf
Failed nuclear test back in 2006.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 11:01 PM (xfm1e)

22 #12 Good catch. This may be just a quack quake in NK. I'm sure a nuclear test has a distinct signature.

North Korea also carried out a nuclear test in October 2006 in Kilju, a test that drew sanctions from the United Nations ...

Yeah, I think they downgraded Dear Leader's Netflix account.

Posted by: lmg at May 24, 2009 11:01 PM (Qt4Y7)

23 I suggest the UN Security Council send them a sternly-worded letter.

Posted by: Barack at May 24, 2009 11:03 PM (B+HYX)

24 The depth seems far-fetched, six miles?

Posted by: exceller at May 24, 2009 11:03 PM (6beBT)

25 Obama is a moron. When will he ever learn that some men just want to watch the world burn?

Posted by: katya at May 24, 2009 11:04 PM (oRJZj)

26 I suggest the UN Security Council send them a sternly-worded letter.

GENOCIDE!

Posted by: lmg at May 24, 2009 11:05 PM (Qt4Y7)

27 I glad I picked up potassium iodide tablets and gas masks cheap after the Y2K bust. But the good news is that Amazon has both very cheap here and here.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 24, 2009 11:05 PM (7z9RL)

28 Within six months there will be an international test of the new President. Obama will need your help and support, so I ask you to please be quiet in the halls while he takes the written test. Grades will be posted in the main auditorium at 6 PM

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at May 24, 2009 11:06 PM (93F13)

29 A USGS map of historical geologic activity in and near NK shows the location of today's event is outside the known activity zone.

It also lists the depth as zero km, but that may difficult to determine for now.

I'm leaning toward nuke test.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 11:06 PM (Dec0Z)

Somebody get me the Undersecretary for Non-Violent Conflict Resolution, and I mean now.

And who do you have to fuck around here to get another goddamn vodka gimlet?

Posted by: The Office of the Teleprompter of the United States at May 24, 2009 11:06 PM (YSqbQ)

Good thing this world is not my home.

Posted by: katya at May 24, 2009 11:07 PM (oRJZj)

32 Meanwhile, Susan Boyle continues to wow. Can this woman sing, or what? If teh morons have not checked in on this spectacular phenom by now, you are missing out. There. Said it.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at May 24, 2009 11:07 PM (cIkZu)

33 Oh yaaaaaay! It's so fun fun fun living in interesting times.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 24, 2009 11:08 PM (kvgzh)

34 Of course the North Koreans are pathologically obsessed with conquering, destroying 'someone' they consider themselves at war with. Who is that again? It's on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't remember...

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2009 11:08 PM (7qa+J)

35 Also, where is my free lace wig?

Posted by: Hugh Jass at May 24, 2009 11:10 PM (cIkZu)

It's on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't remember...

France?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2009 11:10 PM (MB+jN)

37 I could use a lace wig right about now.

Posted by: katya at May 24, 2009 11:10 PM (oRJZj)

38 Now my test complete. Send giant ants create by radioactive to Seoul

Hail Kim ants

Posted by: Kim Jung-il at May 24, 2009 11:11 PM (93F13)

39 Methos, the world?

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 11:11 PM (xfm1e)

40 My first reaction was the same as 12. 6 Miles deep is too deep. My second reaction is Maybe their method of measuring depth isn't all that accurate. The fact that it is in the same area as their original "fizzle" test indicates that it might be for real.

David

Posted by: Dave at May 24, 2009 11:11 PM (EOnG1)

41 David, USGS seems to have updated their information and it's now looking like it was on the surface.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 11:12 PM (xfm1e)

42
From the USGS:

25 MAY 2009 (145)

ot = 00:54:43.76 +/- 0.19 NORTH KOREA
lat = 41.331 +/- 4.0
lon = 129.011 +/- 3.5 MAGNITUDE 4.7 (GS)
dep = 0.0 (geophysicist)

75 km (45 miles) NNW of Kimchaek, North Korea (pop 179,000)
95 km (60 miles) SW of Chongjin, North Korea (pop 582,000)
180 km (110 miles) SSW of Yanji, Jilin, China
380 km (235 miles) NE of PYONGYANG, North Korea

the notation (geophysicist) means the depth was checked by a geophysicist. I would not trust that, they are sneaky bastards.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 11:12 PM (Dec0Z)

43 Has it been six months yet ? This gonna be funny watching the idiot man child squirm if it really was a nuclear test.

David

Posted by: Dave at May 24, 2009 11:14 PM (EOnG1)

44 It's kind of funny it's almost 2 AM when this went off. Maybe Obama got that 2 AM phone call for the first time in his life now.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 11:15 PM (xfm1e)

Weird, I just got done watching 10.5 the Apocalypse on the Sci-Fi channel, the sequel to 10.5. Not content with destroying the Space Needle and California, the earth decides to carve a channel right through America straight to the Gulf of Mexico.

The "scientists" in the film don't know what caused the disaster. Maybe they should've looked into what North Korea was up to...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 24, 2009 11:15 PM (AJ4xq)

46 I was going for
South Korea or
US!!!!!!!!!
but 39 is acceptable. A for effort

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2009 11:16 PM (7qa+J)

47 It's still not on Drudge.

No Hollywood angle to it, I guess.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 11:16 PM (Dec0Z)

48 Wah hoooh, what is it good farr, absorutery nothing. Say again

Posted by: Kim Jung-il at May 24, 2009 11:17 PM (93F13)

49 Is it me, or has the world gone apesh*t crazy since the Party of the Save Mother Gaia Talking Solves Everything Evil Doesn't Exist came into power? I mean, sure Bush had some weird *ss stuff going on in the latter part of this term, but now it's like we've now fallen into super bizarro world.

Thanks 52%.

Posted by: shibumi at May 24, 2009 11:17 PM (OKZrE)

50 Ya Methos, I was thinking of Kim this way.

Kim: Time to piss off ol Bush!
World: Knock the fuck off Kim
Kim: Fuck you! I declare war on you!

Posted by: Kaitian at May 24, 2009 11:17 PM (xfm1e)

51 Hmmmm 12,
A nuclear test, followed years later by seismic activity? Send that design back to R&D, boys.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at May 24, 2009 11:19 PM (7qa+J)

52 Gird your loins (and maybe shave your scrotum, otherwise Barry gets a rash on his chin) ...

Posted by: Joe Fucking Biden at May 24, 2009 11:19 PM (czm9r)

53
This is just a distraction. We must not cling to the false choice of a nuclear vs a non-nuclear North Korea.

My plan will take us beyond the old hatreds of the past.

First, I plan on flying to Pyongyang to meet with Kim jung Il without pre-conditions.

When we meet I will slowly unbutton my white Sea Island cotton shirt, then POW!!!

I hit'em with my moobs. Just imagine my moobs glistening with extra virgin olive oil.....

Who could resist? No one. That's who!

But I'm not done. Oh, no!

I slowly, sensually unzip, pirouette, then KAZOW!!!,/b>

The Mangina!

Well, after that he'll be putty...Just like putty in my mou- uh, bu- uh, hands.

Yes, he Kim Jung will!

Tee-hee.

Posted by: President Barak Obama at May 24, 2009 11:22 PM (oEAm5)

54 Yeah, we give 'em enough time, they'll get it right. Then we can use that 'smart diplomacy' as a missile shield.

Posted by: GarandFan at May 24, 2009 11:23 PM (C3okI)

55 44 It's kind of funny it's almost 2 AM when this went off. Maybe Obama got that 2 AM phone call for the first time in his life now.

Thank you for calling the voice mail of the Teleprompter of the United States of America. All too often, calls of international importance come into this office when your hard working president is asleep in the gentle but toned arms of the First Lady.
If you are a Democratic donor and wish to donate, please press zero and an operator will assist you. All other calls please press one and leave a message. Thank you and God Bless Obama and the United States

Posted by: Obama's voice mail at May 24, 2009 11:24 PM (93F13)

56 Don't come crying to me people, I voted for Palin. Reminds me of mom.

Posted by: Superman at May 24, 2009 11:25 PM (7qa+J)

57 Somebody just pissed off the Japanese.

Not a smart move. They don't like nukes.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 11:25 PM (Dec0Z)

A commenter at HotAir says the Japanese are calling it a nuke test. (But without a link.)

BTW, Obama still hasn't appointed an ambassador to Japan.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2009 11:26 PM (MB+jN)

BTW, Obama still hasn't appointed an ambassador to Japan.

Obama is a moron.

Posted by: katya at May 24, 2009 11:28 PM (oRJZj)

60 Fortunately, my plan doesn't require me to use a keyboard properly.

MANGINA!!!!!

Posted by: President Barak Obama at May 24, 2009 11:28 PM (oEAm5)

61 Oh no they didn't ...

Posted by: Godzilla at May 24, 2009 11:28 PM (JyfVU)

62 Iran testing missiles. NK testing Nukes. Pakistan falling apart. This is the time we decide to cave on the missile shield to Russia? Excellent! Wow. I thought it would take 4 years for Mr. O to destroy us. Who knew there was an express train!?!

Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 24, 2009 11:29 PM (ivwt+)

63 Are you saying N. Korea wasn't rhapsodized by Obama? The one is slipping.

Posted by: chris at May 24, 2009 11:30 PM (nYumm)

64 Time for another Apology Tour.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 11:30 PM (Dec0Z)

However, when it comes to diplomacy, especially 'smart' and 'tough' diplomacy, everyday is a new day.

I'm just worried about "The Day After" frankly. I saw the movie, don't want to live it.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 24, 2009 11:30 PM (AJ4xq)

66 Drudge has finally awoken and put the siren up ....

Posted by: Churchill's RSS Feed at May 24, 2009 11:31 PM (JyfVU)

67 Time for another Apology Tour.

What the crap do we have to apologize to North Korea for?

Posted by: katya at May 24, 2009 11:32 PM (oRJZj)

68 Maybe the Russians will save us again.

Posted by: Tom Dumbya's Ass at May 24, 2009 11:32 PM (JyfVU)

Also, in all seriousness related to my previous 10.5 comment, what sort of geologic impact does it have on the plates that like to shift along fault lines to have a nuclear weapon discharged underground?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 24, 2009 11:32 PM (AJ4xq)

But... but!!! Didn't Obambi tell us the world would respect us if he took office?

Yet, just today, Netanyahu and Kim Jong-Il flipped us the bird!!!

Just like our European allies mooned us over Afghanistan and Gitmo.

Rumor has it that Michelle is in the WH tonight hurling all the vases Hillary never got round to hurling 9 years ago.

"Man up"! She's heard screaming, hopelessly, at her bi-guy.

I suspect Secret Service drones like "Aaron" on 24 are wincing in the halls.

Posted by: effinayright at May 24, 2009 11:33 PM (TIBUh)

71 #67... for our existence (of course) which seems to annoy everyone so much. We are the root of all problems. Just ask the UN.

Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 24, 2009 11:34 PM (ivwt+)

72 BTW, Obama still hasn't appointed an ambassador to Japan.

He's going down the list of RINO governors who might run in 2012 to call and offer the position to

Posted by: kbdabear at May 24, 2009 11:34 PM (93F13)

Oh no they didn't ...
Oh, yes, they did.

Posted by: Rodan at May 24, 2009 11:34 PM (MB+jN)

74 I'll admit I voted for Obama, everyone I know did. Give me a break, I was kind of busy last year to pay attention. Superman was right this once.

Posted by: The Batman at May 24, 2009 11:35 PM (7qa+J)

75 62 Iran testing missiles. NK testing Nukes. Pakistan falling apart. This is the time we decide to cave on the missile shield to Russia? Excellent! Wow. I thought it would take 4 years for Mr. O to destroy us. Who knew there was an express train!?!

I'm just old enough to remember the last few years of the Carter administration, and it felt a lot like things do now - things falling apart at the edges, the center not holding, and not much hope that it would get better. Of course events are happening a lot faster now. I just hope that Obama wises up more than Carter ever did.

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Posted by: royalmewigs at May 24, 2009 11:36 PM (SmUut)

I've got Memorial Day off, leave me the hell alone.

Posted by: TOTUS at May 24, 2009 11:36 PM (6beBT)

Okay, something just for the computer geeks. I am working systems maintenance this evening and I just got the follow error message from our log servers which seems applicable somehow:

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Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 24, 2009 11:37 PM (ivwt+)

79 The USGS is pretty damned good at their job.
I await a statement from Ob saying that it never happened, nothing to see here, just a peaceful nuclear power test* or maybe exploding unicorn farts.
Then we will write them a letter telling them how angry we are.

*: Remember, all liberals know that nuclear power plants can explode just like a bomb.

Posted by: Flubber at May 24, 2009 11:38 PM (/ykD9)

80 Thank God, the lace wigs are here. They'll know what to do.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at May 24, 2009 11:38 PM (JyfVU)

81 BTW, Obama still hasn't appointed an ambassador to Japan.

He's going down the list of RINO governors who might run in 2012 to call and offer the position to

He can always send Arnold, seeing as how proof of citizenship is no longer required to be President.

/runs and hides

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2009 11:38 PM (7qa+J)

82
Sure I'll take care of your little problem, chum.

But it's gonna cost ya.......

Five billion metric tons of meal worms and dead flies.

Posted by: Gamera at May 24, 2009 11:39 PM (oEAm5)

83 BTW, Obama still hasn't appointed an ambassador to Japan.

He's going down the list of RINO governors who might run in 2012 to call and offer the position to

I believe he's already appointed John Roos as ambassador to Japan.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 24, 2009 11:39 PM (7z9RL)

84 You know if Barry the Hutt emptied out a boomer on North Korea, the MSM would back him up on it.

Anybody else, no way.

Posted by: eman at May 24, 2009 11:40 PM (Dec0Z)

85 Oh no they didn't ...

Yu, sucks to be you 'zilla

Posted by: Mega-Shark and Giant Octopus at May 24, 2009 11:40 PM (7qa+J)

MayBee at HotAir said, "Obama had announced on May 21 one of his best fundraisers, John Roos from Palo Alto, CA was going to take the position." So I don't think he's active yet, Mætenloch. I'll Google and see if he's there yet. (Or if he's been confirmed etc. yet.)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2009 11:42 PM (MB+jN)

87 I'm just old enough to remember the last few years of the Carter administration, and it felt a lot like things do now - things falling apart at the edges, the center not holding, and not much hope that it would get better. Of course events are happening a lot faster now. I just hope that Obama wises up more than Carter ever did.

I was in my 20s back then. The events are similar but by then the DemSM knew that they had a total loser at the top and so did the Dems. They thought Teddy might take the primaries in 80 from Jimmah and bring back Camelot. Jimmah was getting heat from the media at about 1/4 of what Bush got, which means for a Democrat he was getting hammered.

The main difference is that when Carter fucked up the media called it as such. Now when their Teleprompter Messiah fucks up, they coo like parents whose baby just shit his diapers. Obama is not just fucking up, but he and the media think he's doing fantastically and is smart enough to cooly wave away any crisis. Why wise up when you think you're perfect in every way

Posted by: kbdabear at May 24, 2009 11:44 PM (93F13)

88 Who's laughing now assholes? Next time I say to gird your loins I suggest you listen up.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 24, 2009 11:46 PM (6beBT)

89 What we obviously need to do is unilaterally disarm, remove that antagonistic missile shield, and close Gitmo.

Remember, the Axis of Evil are just friends you haven't met yet.

Posted by: Mine is the last voice you will ever hear at May 24, 2009 11:47 PM (JyfVU)

90 Batman, I don't know what you're talking about, everyone here at the Daily Planet knows he's the best President we ever had. Clark will come around. If he knows what's good for him.

Oh and Barry posing in front of Clark's statue, I hate to brag, but that was my idea.

Posted by: Lois Lane at May 24, 2009 11:47 PM (7qa+J)

91 Another good reason for the sensible people to get out of California.

David

Posted by: Dave at May 24, 2009 11:48 PM (EOnG1)

92 HE'll get to ir after waffles

Posted by: billypaintbrush at May 24, 2009 11:48 PM (6Bzc0)

93 Quick, someone give Kim Jong the coordinates for San Fransisco !

Posted by: Dave at May 24, 2009 11:50 PM (EOnG1)

Things we had better start getting to know more about… quickly

link

Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 24, 2009 11:51 PM (ivwt+)

The N. Korean mouth is to be ignored. They'll make the claim, no matter what.

An earthquake either at or very close to a known nuclear test site is troubling.

Part of the problem is that 6 miles down, assuming the data is good, seems too deep for a mine, but not necessarily impossible. 4.7 seems about the size of the previous fizzle. I can't remember.

I still vote for the 24 hour rule.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 24, 2009 11:52 PM (Bg4Sb)

96

Can't a guy finish his double wagyu ground burger with aragula and dijon?

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 24, 2009 11:52 PM (93F13)

97 USGS info says depth 0 miles with an uncertainty of +/- 3.3 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/qmqeby

Posted by: Anachronda at May 24, 2009 11:53 PM (f5hkO)

98 3.3 miles above 0. That could be a unicorn fart.. well or an airburst. same likelyhood on both.

Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 24, 2009 11:54 PM (ivwt+)

Apparently, Roos is supposed to be the man but it hasn't been officially announced (and Congress approved?) yet seeing the bottom paragraph of this now very ironic item from Real Clear Politics.

And while Googling for Roos appointment information, I found this "The consequences of that decision [andy: Japan going nuke] would be earthshaking."

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2009 11:54 PM (MB+jN)

100 The Korean pol who jumped off the cliff yesterday...Coincidence?!? I think not.
I don't feel safe with obama. Just sayin'

Posted by: sickinmass at May 24, 2009 11:55 PM (/i4dU)

101

A 4.7 earthquake corresponds to the energy of a few hundred tons of TNT - another fizzle like the last N. Korean test.

Posted by: Typical Undergraduate at May 24, 2009 11:58 PM (PB0gV)

102

I only just noticed it was the same journalist writing both pieces. Doh! I was about to post accusations of plagiarism as the same phrases are used in both articles.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2009 11:58 PM (MB+jN)

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Posted by: Anachronda at May 25, 2009 12:00 AM (f5hkO)

104 They fired missiles, too. Tonight that is.

Posted by: Benson at May 25, 2009 12:06 AM (qzcNU)

105

Norks threatened this, along with missile tests, from around April 29 because the UN owed the Norks an apology.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2009 12:09 AM (MB+jN)

106
Map of Taliban controlled and contested territory in Pahkeeston

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 12:12 AM (93F13)

107

Re. Bolton, maybe Hillary can hit the reset button with the Norks?

And shouldn't someone give Ace that call in the middle of the hobo night that there's an important story breaking?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2009 12:12 AM (MB+jN)

108 Well, this is interesting. If memory serves correctly, we've always utilized our satellites to keep us abreast of any North Korean activities. We knew they were setting up missiles before they launched. We knew about the last nuke test before it happened. Why the surprise now? Where are our satellites? Don't tell me Barry gave secret orders to stop monitoring our enemies? I wouldn't put it past the fucker.

Posted by: jaleach at May 25, 2009 12:13 AM (gHrZU)

109 Hey, who is this Batman guy, anyway? Let's start looking into his background.

Posted by: Perry White at May 25, 2009 12:14 AM (ClaUM)

110 Negotiations like the six-party talks are a charade and reflect a continuing collapse of American resolve. U.S. acquiescence in a second North Korean nuclear test will likely mean that Tehran will adopt Pyongyang's successful strategy.

Bolton is prescient, as usual. We would probably get better results if we just handed our international security over to him, Krauthammer and VDH,

Posted by: Mine is the last voice you will ever hear at May 25, 2009 12:14 AM (JyfVU)

111

Where are our satellites?

Pirating HBO for the One?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2009 12:17 AM (MB+jN)

112 Did Barry stagger into the WH emergency meeting tonight still wearing his Winnie-the Pooh pajamas?

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 12:19 AM (Dec0Z)

113 Sure, things look bad now, but at least we didn't turn over the reigns of the State Department to an unqualified hack as a political favor in order to help mend divisions within the ruling party.

Posted by: The Mayan Calendar at May 25, 2009 12:20 AM (JyfVU)

114 I personally am not worried. When Barack Obama is elected, the North Koreans will lay down their arms and embrace us in global brotherhood. Barack's aura alone will cause the North Koreans to cease all hostile efforts. Palistine and Israel will be one, and insurgants globally will cease their opposition in the presence of the Great One.

I can't wait to Barack's election... how many more months must we suffer in a world devoid of his transformational greatness?

Posted by: HatlessHessian at May 25, 2009 12:22 AM (7r7wy)

115 The game is afoot. Let's see what Affirmative Action Jackson does about this.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at May 25, 2009 12:23 AM (OtE8p)

116
> 7 On the other hand you could almost slam together by hand two subcritical U235 pieces and likely get some kind of explosion.

Posted by: Mætenloch

It takes about 75 pounds if you're doing it by hand.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 25, 2009 12:24 AM (LV+t1)

117 The latest North Korean nuclear test has taken us all by surprise. We sit and stare at the television, its pulsating cathode ejaculations striking terror deep into our sweat soaked loins, as we see and hear the mushroom cloud. We feel violated, unclean, as though the North Koreans penetrated us in a sexual way. Every inch of our sinewy bodies, our very buttocks, tingle in outrage over this dastardly deed. The sphincter puckers. But we go on, as we must, in the face of great adversity.

Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at May 25, 2009 12:25 AM (gHrZU)

118 If we had fixed healthcare back in '93 when Hillary told us to, this never would have happened.

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 12:27 AM (Dec0Z)

119 The CNN coverage, which was the only live thing I could find up to a few min ago, was doing its best to sound as panicked as possible, but also reaching the exact opposite conclusions as Bolton. Their conclusions were the Norks want to dismantle, they long to dismantle, but they want something in return. That something was what they couldn't figure out.

The only thing missing was the wind whistling between their ears.

Posted by: Doc at May 25, 2009 12:27 AM (AghBu)

120

from AP : "Yonhap said North Korea fired a ground-to-air missile with a range of 80 miles (130 kilometers) from its northeastern Musudan-ri launch site." Notice it is a ground to air interceptor.

This would be fuck you, come get us?

Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 25, 2009 12:28 AM (ivwt+)

121 From the NYT, just yesterday, test ban treaty would prevent testing.

I did not know that..

Posted by: Clark Hoyt, wondering if we'll ever get a story right at May 25, 2009 12:29 AM (JyfVU)

122

I am more than a bit concerned that North Korea was able to "surprise" us this way. And not the good kind of surprise with cake and balloons and goody bags filled with useless plastic crap made in China.

No, the bad kind of surprise, like coming home to find your favorite toy inexplicably melted in a freak "accident" that for some reason your mother, despite being the only one home at the time, has no idea about.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 25, 2009 12:30 AM (AJ4xq)

123
> 87 ...
The main difference is that when Carter fucked up the media called it as such. Now when their Teleprompter Messiah fucks up, they coo like parents whose baby just shit his diapers. Obama is not just fucking up, but he and the media think he's doing fantastically and is smart enough to cooly wave away any crisis. ...
Posted by: kbdabear

This is Bush's fault.

Posted by: Comrade MSM at May 25, 2009 12:30 AM (LV+t1)

124 I am more than a bit concerned that North Korea was able to "surprise" us this way.

That's what I said. Let's hope the next surprise isn't a "nuclear test" in an American city.

Posted by: jaleach at May 25, 2009 12:31 AM (gHrZU)

125

>This is Bush's fault.

"Yes! Obviously a result of the failed policies of the past."

Posted by: UofC Conservative at May 25, 2009 12:32 AM (ivwt+)

126

On the other hand you could almost slam together by hand two subcritical U235 pieces and likely get some kind of explosion.

Funny story: Enrico Fermi almost blew up Chicago demonstrating experimentally this very fact underneath the stadium at the University of Chicago. (He pulled back at the very last minute.) Question to ponder: If Fermi had blown up Chicago, would we have Obama today? Discuss.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 12:33 AM (kw6LA)

127 This is Bush's fault.

Well, obviously. The real question is how can we give Obama even more power as a result?

Posted by: Congress at May 25, 2009 12:34 AM (JyfVU)

128 Tomorrow's Conventional Wisdom Today...This failure of diplomacy clearly shows the need for more diplomacy. The Six Party Talks have done nothing to stop N. Korea's nuclear program. Obviously this demonstrates the importance of redoubling efforts to conduct more Six Party Talks.

As John McLaughlin would say, you have stumbled uncontrollably into the truth. We do need to redouble our diplomacy efforts - by entering into Twelve Party Talks. Clearly if Six Party Talks didn't get the job done, the answer is to add more parties. Now, who should the next six be? I would like to start the party search by nominating Madagascar. I have no doubt that they have some valuable insights to bring to the proceedings and will help us get this whole this squared away pronto.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 25, 2009 12:34 AM (uD923)

129 I say again, my father was born in Kenya and it's all Bush's fault.

Posted by: Jug Eared Fool at May 25, 2009 12:39 AM (UHTK+)

130 Question to ponder: If Fermi had blown up Chicago, would we have Obama today? Discuss.

If so, it wouldn't be much of a loss. Other than the Field Museum and the comedy stylings of the Chicago Cubs, would the US even miss the Windy City?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2009 12:39 AM (9Lm5R)

131

Heh @ 126:

By the end of 1942, the team was ready for its first test. The equipment was set up in a squash court at the University of Chicago. It was December 2. The moment was tense: if their theories and experiments until now proved wrong, they could blow up half of Chicago. A few of the rods were pulled out, and the reaction began. More rods came out. The reaction was self-sustaining. The team could increase or decrease the energy output by adjusting the rods. Fermi's idea had worked, and the first controlled, self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction -- the first controlled flow of energy from a source other than the Sun -- was achieved.

~ PBS

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at May 25, 2009 12:40 AM (JyfVU)

132 All I care about is that when my gay staffers give each other AIDS from drilling each other in the ass, is that they have access to the same benefits that traditional married people have.

It's what we do in the State Department.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2009 12:41 AM (lX0t+)

133 Don't blame me, I inherited this mess.

Posted by: Pres'dent Obama at May 25, 2009 12:41 AM (KyqYb)

134 The state departments officials statement can be summarized like this:

"uhh..."

Posted by: Doc at May 25, 2009 12:43 AM (AghBu)

135 The White House has just received an extortion demand for "one hundred birryon darrah"

A quick check has revealed that this payment is authorized under TARP.

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 12:43 AM (Dec0Z)

136

Drill, baby, drill!

Posted by: andi sullivan at May 25, 2009 12:43 AM (MB+jN)

137 The real bomb comes on Tuesday: will Prop 8 stand or not?

Posted by: Anxious Andi at May 25, 2009 12:43 AM (JyfVU)

138
eman @ 135: Damn that was funny!

Posted by: Stitches at May 25, 2009 12:44 AM (KyqYb)

139

I, for one, welcome our new North Korean overlords.

Anybody got any good recipes for cooking bugs and dirt soup?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 25, 2009 12:45 AM (AJ4xq)

140 # 134 -

Actually, the State Department just issued its first response. It's all thunder and lightning as you can imagine.

Posted by: Intrepid Reporter at May 25, 2009 12:47 AM (JyfVU)

141 Anybody got any good recipes for cooking bugs and dirt soup?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle

Pretty much anything goes, except never mix grasshoppers and beetles.

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 12:47 AM (Dec0Z)

142 As John McLaughlin would say, you have stumbled uncontrollably into the truth. We do need to redouble our diplomacy efforts - by entering into Twelve Party Talks.

The Khitomer Peace accords must go on. With Gorkon gone, Michelle will stand in his place to plea for peace. Watch out for Valeris, General Chang, and Admiral Cartwright though, they've met with Dick Cheney to sabotage to talks

Posted by: Ambassador Sarek at May 25, 2009 12:48 AM (93F13)

143

A 4.7 earthquake corresponds to the energy of a few hundred tons of TNT - another fizzle like the last N. Korean test.

According to Wikipedia, that magnitude is about correct for a small atomic bomb.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 12:48 AM (kw6LA)

144 Fortunately, I have played both STALKER and Fallout 3, so I know everything I need to know about survival in a radioactive wasteland. Now, to finish that GECK.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at May 25, 2009 12:49 AM (OtE8p)

145

I believe the following Shakespeare quotation applies well to anything the State Department has to say:

It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 25, 2009 12:51 AM (AJ4xq)

146 Actually, the State Department just issued its first response. It's all thunder and lightning as you can imagine.

US "gravely concerned"? That's way tougher than "deeply troubled". This rates a sternly worded letter at the very least

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 12:52 AM (93F13)

147 Churchill @ 131, okay I had heard a slightly different story, that he was under the stadium. Oh well, it's about right. Actually if you really want to know the truth behind the Manhattan Project and all that, read "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes. It is very long, but it is a good read, he does a good job at telling the story.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 12:54 AM (kw6LA)

148 The Wikipedia data suggests the Norks may have hit 5-10 kilotons.

Not a big nuke for sure, but it would destroy a city.

We are now free to regard North Korea as a strategic threat.

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 12:54 AM (Dec0Z)

149

Oh No!

There Goes Tokyo!

Kim Kim Jong Il!

Wooooooooo.......

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 12:55 AM (kw6LA)

150 I'm gravely concerned as well...that what I just took to be a fart is something far, FAR more ominous.

Posted by: jaleach at May 25, 2009 12:55 AM (gHrZU)

151 Chemjeff, the squashcourts were under the stadium.

Posted by: XBradTC at May 25, 2009 12:57 AM (HZGpT)

152 Oh great, good news as usual! This Obama nightmare is never a dull moment, you have to say that much.

So I really should stop the procrastinating and give in to the drink early this evening.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 12:57 AM (hm0CN)

153

151 Chemjeff, the squashcourts were under the stadium.

Oh well THAT explains it! Heh. Who'd put squash courts under a stadium, anyway?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 12:58 AM (kw6LA)

154

Oh No!

There Goes Tokyo!

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 12:58 AM (93F13)

155 Chemjeff @ 147 -

I wasn't nitpicking your story, just linking the rest of the story for those morons (myself included) who aren't as steeped in UC arcana.

I was "heh"-ing your exit question, as it's actually a rather interesting.thought experiment.

Posted by: Churchill at May 25, 2009 12:59 AM (JyfVU)

156

I guess that means I'll be cancelling that luxury Aleutian Island cruise that I had been dreaming of...

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 12:59 AM (kw6LA)

157 Have the NKs picked their next Dear Leader or is their a power struggle going on?

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 01:00 AM (Dec0Z)

158 > 7 On the other hand you could almost slam together by hand two subcritical U235 pieces and likely get some kind of explosion.

Posted by: Mætenloch

It takes about 75 pounds if you're doing it by hand.

Back in my weightlifting days I could practically juggle 35lb plates, so no problem. Of course uranium is about twice as dense as steel, so 75lbs of U235 would be about the same size as a 35lb plate.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 25, 2009 01:00 AM (7z9RL)

159

Oh great, good news as usual!

And we haven't even gotten to his Supreme Court pick. Good times, good times.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:00 AM (kw6LA)

160 there, not their

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 01:01 AM (Dec0Z)

161 So can Nork missiles reach Hawaii?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:02 AM (kw6LA)

162 I think the Norks know how to make a big boom. They are trying to figure out how to make the bomb small enough and light enough to use on one of their missiles.

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 01:04 AM (Dec0Z)

163 I present to you, fellow moronites, a taste of Kosack:

I'm with you. Overreacting does nothing but exacerbate the situation, which is why I'm glad we have President Obama. I've had some disagreements with him lately but...I have no worries about him approaching this in a calm, deliberative manner.

I'm kind of surprised at some of the reactions. People need to chill.

by jaywillie on Sun May 24, 2009 at 09:49:53 PM PDT
[ Parent ]

This is what you get when you put the children in charge. One of the next comments was this gem:

The North Korean's forgot it was Memorial Day but this test seems to me that they're simply needing attention. Best thing that Obama can do is not respond to the test. Even if it was a real nuke test, there's nothing we can do about it. It's not like we can have more sanctions or invade the country.

by i8pikachu on Sun May 24, 2009 at 10:45:28 PM PDT
[ Parent ]

Ahhh. The bliss of burying your head in the sand up to your ankles.

Posted by: Stitches at May 25, 2009 01:05 AM (KyqYb)

164

So let's summarize Obama's foreign policy in a mere 4 months' time...

- Pissed off the British PM

- Even the French think we are becoming too socialist

- Pakistan is near collapse

- Both Iranian Prez AND Israeli PM thumb their nose at him (now that's rare- Israel & Iran agreeing on something)

- Situation in Afghanistan doesn't seem to be getting much better

- He gets warm hugs from Chavez

- And now Norks test a nuke

On the upside, Obama polls well in Germany.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:06 AM (kw6LA)

165 Maybe Kim is still pissed off about that Team America movie.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 25, 2009 01:07 AM (AJ4xq)

166 OK, maybe our State Department came off sounding kind of weak -- at least the Brits sacked up.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at May 25, 2009 01:08 AM (JyfVU)

167

The North Korean's forgot it was Memorial Day

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA like Dear Leader fucking cares! That's the funniest bit. What, they are supposed to schedule their work tests only between 8-5 on a work day?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:08 AM (kw6LA)

168 er, nuke tests

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:09 AM (kw6LA)

169

Ahhh. The bliss of burying your head in the sand up to your ankles.

Or somewhere else. (But up to the same distance.)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2009 01:09 AM (MB+jN)

170

On the upside, Obama polls well in Germany.

Give him time, chemjeff, he hasn't gone there to apologize yet. I guarantee he sticks his foot in it somehow.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 25, 2009 01:10 AM (AJ4xq)

171 Even if it was a real nuke test, there's nothing we can do about it. It's not like we can have more sanctions or invade the country.

by i8pikachu on Sun May 24, 2009 at 10:45:28 PM PDT
[ Parent ]

Well, we could decapitate their government and destroy their military.

Posted by: eman at May 25, 2009 01:12 AM (Dec0Z)

172 159 Oh that's right. I heard Karl Rove saying that Obie was going to put off the Supreme Court pick for maybe six months too, so he can get exactly what he's looking for and make sure the person is confirmed. I'll start collecting drink mix advice early next week.

Hey, glad you're off that Pilates thing ... one day I come in and you're talking about titty-phucking like a regular guy, the very next time I come in you're almost getting talked into a Pilates class.

I didn't want to have to show you pics of Massachusetts "men" in my exercise and dance classes as a sort of emergency intervention. But *threat* .. if I have to I will. Just kidding, exercise is exercise. Whatever floats your boat; I will judge not

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:12 AM (hm0CN)

173

"It's better to have him inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in" - LBJ on the reappointment of J Edgar Hoover

Courtesy of Hot Air, Colin Powell will continue to bless the GOP by staying inside the tent and pissing on the floor

http://tinyurl.com/qa3tck

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 01:13 AM (7FgWm)

174 I think it's past time that we had a "Hands Across North Korea" event. It's sure to bring everyone together and solve the problem, just like it did here in the 1980s. I don't remember what that problem was, actually, but I'm pretty sure forming a line solved it.

Posted by: Dumbass moonbat at May 25, 2009 01:15 AM (gHrZU)

175 British junior foreign minister Bill Rammell Monday called North Korea's announced nuclear test a "clear breach" of UN Security Council resolutions and urged it to return to disarmament talks.

How can these guys say things like this with a straight face? "Yeah, shame on you for developing the greatest weapon mankind has evern known. Now throw it away and submit yourself to the UN."

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:15 AM (kw6LA)

176

130 'the comedy stylings of the Chicago Cubs' DUDE!!!!! you just don't realize the greatness of Da Cubbies.

anywho, doesn't NK have a missle that can reach hawaii, the big long dong or some shit? this kind of sucks for us who actually live here. I wonder if a lace wig will save me from radiation sickness and that 2000 degree blast?

Posted by: navycopjoe at May 25, 2009 01:15 AM (ab2xT)

177 I'd love to stay and hang out with all of you, but the pitcher of alcohol I consumed earlier has caught up to me so I am going to have to take myself to bed, curl up in a fetal position, and pray that some miracle keeps us safe a little bit longer.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 25, 2009 01:15 AM (AJ4xq)

178 So, after four months we've pretty much been reduced economically to hoping Japan sneak attacks Pearl Harbor again so we can restart the war machine, and militarily it looks like our best shot is to lure foreign enemies into accepting TARP funds so we can order their leaders to step down after bankruptcy reorganization.

Posted by: The Mayan Calendar at May 25, 2009 01:15 AM (JyfVU)

179 Hey sis don't worry about it, I'll do weightlifting before I do Pilates. But thanks for the offer of an intervention.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:16 AM (kw6LA)

180 Give him time, chemjeff, he hasn't gone there to apologize yet. I guarantee he sticks his foot in it somehow.

He's going to Germany around D-Day (June 6) to apologize for Dresden and the rest of the bombing. Seriously.

Posted by: XBradTC at May 25, 2009 01:16 AM (HZGpT)

181 173 Colin Powell will continue to bless the GOP by staying inside the tent and pissing on the floor

If they ran it like a really good "party" we could get a bouncer to just ask him to leave.

But my drinks might be even more watered down.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:17 AM (hm0CN)

182 Well fancy that... I guess this will get the bidding started; let's see...

We've got...Iran, Venezuela, Sudan, heck, even the Saudis may slip a bid in.

So many potential customers, so little time...

Thank God for my NBC training.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 25, 2009 01:18 AM (lYKj1)

183

I wonder if a lace wig will save me from radiation sickness and that 2000 degree blast?

Only if this is what you mean by "lace wig".

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:18 AM (kw6LA)

184

The North Korean's forgot it was Memorial Day but this test seems to me that they're simply needing attention. Best thing that Obama can do is not respond to the test. Even if it was a real nuke test, there's nothing we can do about it. It's not like we can have more sanctions or invade the country.

Dude, that kind of sucks for those New Yorkers, but it's not, you know, like my house that got blown up. The radiation is far enough away so my hair won't fall out, right? Obama is right not to overreact. He should just ignore it, it's not like you know war ever stopped anybody anyway. Nothing we can do about it, Obama is being totally cool

Posted by: Kostard at May 25, 2009 01:20 AM (7FgWm)

185 179 Hey sis don't worry about it, I'll do weightlifting before I do Pilates. But thanks for the offer of an intervention.

Whew. Okay, life totally makes sense again. I'm just running out of states to leave and I simply can't watch the whole world Massachusetts-sized.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:21 AM (hm0CN)

186 Nancy Botox is in China right now. Wonder how she feels about this.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2009 01:21 AM (9Lm5R)

187

What do the Chinses have to say?

NK is like China's little bastard child (remember, Mao's son died there fighting the US), and although the Chinses know deep down that their child is a little piece of shit, they aren't going to let anyone else point that out.

The US is so desparate to get in bed with NK's mom that they don't dare bellittle momma's little bastard, even when he threatens to murder. All the US State Dept wants to do is appease so that they can keep tapping China's sweet, sweet cash reserves.

Posted by: In Exile at May 25, 2009 01:25 AM (S9XrR)

188 "...would the US even miss the Windy City?" It would have in 1942.

Here is a clue: the most-read phrase in the English language is not "Close Cover Before Striking." It is "Royal Silent Flush. Sloan Valve Co. Chicago."

Posted by: comatus at May 25, 2009 01:26 AM (XTm8J)

189 186 Is she already in China? That was zippy, I wonder what the plane/travel situation was.

Because I just saw that witch (sorry witches) at a presser yesterday. I thought.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:27 AM (hm0CN)

190 189 Didn't mean those italics.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:28 AM (hm0CN)

191

Whew. Okay, life totally makes sense again. I'm just running out of states to leave and I simply can't watch the whole world Massachusetts-sized.

You have a friend in Nebraska.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:30 AM (kw6LA)

192

Oh, Geraldo said tonight on Fox that our fears of Gitmo prisoners in our neighborhood lockups is way overblown. They're really nice guys when you get to know them.

Makes me feel so much safer. Fetch me a bottle from the vault

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 01:35 AM (7FgWm)

193

anywho, doesn't NK have a missle that can reach hawaii, the big long dong or some shit?

Well according to this source, of the missiles the Norks actually have, the one with the longest range is only 1500 km which isn't far enough to reach Hawaii. But it's surely far enough to reach Japan. Of course who knows how the FAS guys know how many of which missiles the Norks actually have. That would seem to be a very difficult thing to know.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:36 AM (kw6LA)

194 191 Kewl! Corn, and male free dance classes.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:37 AM (hm0CN)

195 @192 Geraldo is one of a select list of people that can make me root for hurricane destruction, as long as he's included.

Posted by: Doc at May 25, 2009 01:38 AM (AghBu)

196 Is this the overnight thread? And this is the new system/server or whatever?

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:40 AM (hm0CN)

197

194 Don't forget football. And cows. And bars. And beer. Lots of beer.

Of course I can't absolutely guarantee that the dance classes are male-free. After all, there are perverts and state politicians here. But even then I can guarantee that the words "arugulua", "chianti" and "metrosexual" will never leave their lips.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:41 AM (kw6LA)

198 197 I'm glad you said all that ... I had to go to Wikipedia just to make sure they had corn there! And I thought Omaha steaks were there, and they're good, but I wasn't sure.

Okay, I stand educated.

there are perverts and state politicians here

Ah, but no full on Kennedy crime family? Well, with luck your serial killers can match if not beat these Boston stranglers and whatnot.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:46 AM (hm0CN)

199

Ah, but no full on Kennedy crime family?

No, not really. We don't really have hereditary elected offices here. Actually, out of the places I've been, this place is the most zealously anti-fraud and anti-corruption when it comes to public offices. There was a story here not long ago about this city worker who sent this political advocacy email, using his private account to other private accounts, and on his own time, but because the email went through a public server, he was fined something like $500. Now that might be a bit of overkill, but it just goes to show that they take these things very seriously.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:52 AM (kw6LA)

200

And I thought Omaha steaks were there, and they're good, but I wasn't sure.

Yeah, Omaha steaks are good, but they are the steaks designed for exports. The stuff we keep for ourselves are the really good steaks.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 01:54 AM (kw6LA)

201 199 Wow. If only they could fit that on a billboard Nebraska would be a tourist mecca, and the tourists would stay.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:55 AM (hm0CN)

202

You can bet the Iranians were the for this and for the nuke test. Just might have been an Iranian nuke that was tested...

Posted by: paranoid polly at May 25, 2009 01:55 AM (YLNjm)

203 Hey, it's almost 3:00am.

Posted by: chris at May 25, 2009 01:55 AM (nYumm)

204 203 You cannot beat that for truth telling.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 01:57 AM (hm0CN)

205 201 Yeah, it is just a very fiscally prudent place. People here actually understand where tax money comes from and they don't spend it frivolously. I really think it's because that most everyone here is not far removed from the farm, and they understand how much hard work goes into farming. It is gratifying, really.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 02:06 AM (kw6LA)

206 205 The exact opposite of here. It's disheartening, and Sickinmass is best at describing the lunacy but I guess everyone's heard this is the state where Obama's aunt was holed up illegally in gov't. housing and Deval Patrick (Obama's mini-me) has a program giving cars to people without jobs.

I hope the pendulum swings back to people respecting where things (like money) come from soon. But I worry that Obama's setting us up for a generation of freeloaders and kids who think they should be CEO's straight out of college and Presidents with no experience b/c they're so darn special!

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:11 AM (hm0CN)

207 Like I saw a big campaign for the Boys and Girls Club after school program for grade schoolers that keeps underpriveleged kids off the streets and it was a billboard that said:

"Be a star"

???

What kind of value is that? Just be special, for nothing? Anyway if one thinks Obama's a narcissist I wonder what will follow.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:16 AM (hm0CN)

208 206 You have my sincere condolences. Nebraska awaits you.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2009 02:24 AM (kw6LA)

209

206 You have my sincere condolences. Nebraska awaits you.

nebraska , great place to ski.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 02:35 AM (DqJGH)

210 208 lol! At least I have that

...   It's a mighty quiet internet out there tonight for good reason I guess.   Are you listening to music or anything?   I'm listening to dance music right now.

There's news too.   Looks like American Thinker has an article trying to prove Bill Ayers wrote Dreams of My Father.

The Brits are fighting Obama's banking proposals.

Fan favorite Susan Boyle just won that British talent show.
___

You reading or doing anything interesting?

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:35 AM (hm0CN)

211 Joan and Chemjeff

Nebraska's great ski country too? I'd thought it was flat.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:37 AM (hm0CN)

212

211 Joan and Chemjeff

Nebraska's great ski country too? I'd thought it was flat.

i think i need to end my posts with a sarc sign or something geez.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 02:38 AM (DqJGH)

213 212 You know what, actually that would have helped.

If Palin Steele shows up I volunteer to babysit It tonight. I want to debate. (Have It call me names, or whatever debate means in hermaphrodite Troll-ese)

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:41 AM (hm0CN)

214 213 Should have stuck a smile on that "it would have helped"

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:42 AM (hm0CN)

215

i thought it was pretty obvious really, you can pretty much assume all or 99% of my posts are sarcastic. this is a humor blog kinda (why i like it anyway).

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 02:43 AM (DqJGH)

216 So noted.

You know, I'm rarely sarcastic. I usually do mean what I say, or I'm just joking and playing around with no intent to harm.

Trolls are the exception. They can phuck it.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:52 AM (hm0CN)

217

216 So noted.

You know, I'm rarely sarcastic. I usually do mean what I say, or I'm just joking and playing around with no intent to harm.

Trolls are the exception. They can phuck it.

yeh well this site is pretty outrageous, hobo hunting, midget pron, skandis, valu-rite vodka, boobies and such are standard fare. there are some very funny posters here (i guess i'm not one of them). i am serious sometimes but i come here for a laugh.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 02:57 AM (DqJGH)

218 If Palin Steele shows up I volunteer to babysit It tonight. I want to debate. (Have It call me names, or whatever debate means in hermaphrodite Troll-ese)
Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 02:41 AM

Last night it was proud of the fact it was a back door man

The Doors - Back Door Man

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:01 AM (93F13)

219 Me too. I didn't mean I am serious while here, just that I mean what I say.

No, I'm not serious at night either.

Speaking of funny posters, it'd be cool if one of them were here.

there are some very funny posters here (i guess i'm not one of them)

Me neither, having fun and being funny really are two diff things. Sadly.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 03:03 AM (hm0CN)

220 kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:01 AM (93F13)

Speak of the devil. Glad to see you!

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 03:04 AM (hm0CN)

221 kbdabear why are you such a back door man hater ? butt sex is not the be all and end all (heh). but it can be enjoyable and i'm not ashamed to admit it.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:04 AM (DqJGH)

222
The Doors - Love Her Madly

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:07 AM (93F13)

223 221 kbdabear why are you such a back door man hater ? butt sex is not the be all and end all (heh). but it can be enjoyable and i'm not ashamed to admit it.

The rectum is the body's exhaust pipe. I don't shove my evening meal up my ass, why should I sail my ship up the wrong canal?

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:09 AM (93F13)

224

here's one in honor of memorial day.

http://tinyurl.com/ktsek

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:11 AM (DqJGH)

225

So the Norks tested a short range missile and a nuke today? That could have dire implications.... For SK and our strategic positioning. Depends on the missile's payload capacity.

Now everyone last go round was looking at the nose cone on the last missile to have a guess as to intentions - the Taepodong II is a liquid fuel rocket, I wonder if the Norks put a metal slug up there to test capacity? If they are developing smaller nuke designs, that could have horrific consequences.

Imagine a short range missile to take out our SK bases or disrupt supplies mixed with a med range strike to Okinawa or Guam... What would our response be? I think the Norks may believe Obama doesn't have the sack for MAD. A conventional war in NK is hell, just ask any Frozen Chosin survivors (like my great-uncle... man that dude has some stories).

Posted by: flashoverride at May 25, 2009 03:12 AM (E/X9t)

226 Ricki Lee Jones - Falling Up

Ricki is familiar to us boomers as the late 70s version of Jewel

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:14 AM (93F13)

227

The rectum is the body's exhaust pipe. I don't shove my evening meal up my ass, why should I sail my ship up the wrong canal?

the ass gets no respect i guess. it's more than an exhaust pipe. if you don't enjoy anal don't do it.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:16 AM (DqJGH)

228 For Memorial Day

Sarah McLachlan - I Will Remember You

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:18 AM (93F13)

229 Ricki is familiar to us boomers as the late 70s version of Jewel

Oy. I am unclear, is this intended as a compliment or not

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 03:19 AM (hm0CN)

230 I like Jewel, too bad she went off the tracks with that awful Intuition song and CD.

Here's some country from her, it fits her well Jewel - I Do

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:23 AM (93F13)

231

judas !

i don't believe you. you are a liar.

play fucking loud.

http://tinyurl.com/yzmz5x

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:24 AM (DqJGH)

232

help me i think i'm falling in love again.

http://tinyurl.com/dy64hf

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:29 AM (DqJGH)

233 Bob Dylan could never sing and was a lousy guitar player. The only reason he ever made it was that he gave Pete Seeger some good acid

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:29 AM (93F13)

234 230 Nice, sounded great.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 03:30 AM (hm0CN)

235 Joni Mitchell on the other hand was brilliant. River is on my playlist every Christmas.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:30 AM (93F13)

236

233 Bob Dylan could never sing and was a lousy guitar player. The only reason he ever made it was that he gave Pete Seeger some good acid

you sir are an idiot .

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:30 AM (DqJGH)

237

This is what we've come to?

Jewel and Sarah McLachlan?

WHAT.THE.FUCK over.

Posted by: flashoverride at May 25, 2009 03:32 AM (E/X9t)

238

we are idiots babe it's a wonder we can even breathe.

http://tinyurl.com/3hcqnf

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:33 AM (DqJGH)

239 For PGiS and her terrorist squirrels

Bill Murray - Caddyshack

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:34 AM (93F13)

240 237

This is what we've come to?

lol. What music do you like? Put up a link, it's still a somewhat free country.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 03:35 AM (hm0CN)

241
> 158

>> It takes about 75 pounds if you're doing it by hand.

> Back in my weightlifting days I could practically juggle 35lb plates, so no problem. Of course uranium is about twice as dense as steel, so 75lbs of U235 would be about the same size as a 35lb plate.

Posted by: Mætenloch

Excellent! The 75lb bomb example uses U235 in the shape of plates - much like weightlifting plates. Slam two of those puppies together and you're a one-man WMD!

If you do it, take a vid. It'll be a hit on YouTube.

Posted by: Comrade MSM at May 25, 2009 03:40 AM (LV+t1)

242 For those who liked 60's folk and rock by people who could actually sing and play instruments

Crosby Stills & Nash - Wooden Ships - Live at Woodstock 1969

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:48 AM (93F13)

243

I'm not sure that you all can handle teh Fear Factory...

Anyways, to all those who have laid down the last full measure of themselves so that miserable wretches like me and mine might have the freedom to live, talk, and pray in the manner of our choosing..

Semper Fi, brothers. I can only hope that the remainder of my life is worth the sacrifices made on me and mine's behalf.

RIP, LCpl Lam. I'll see you again, brother.

Posted by: flashoverride at May 25, 2009 03:50 AM (E/X9t)

244

242 For those who liked 60's folk and rock by people who could actually sing and play instruments

what instruments do you play kbdabear ?

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:51 AM (DqJGH)

245 Hawaii and Alaska.... the last two states to join the Union and the first to be melted off the face of the planet by incoming Nork nukes...

Posted by: Scott in OC at May 25, 2009 03:52 AM (LsIYA)

246 Beautiful song written by David Crosby, performed live in 1991 by him and Graham Nash. This was on their first album in 1969

David Crosby - Guinnivere

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:53 AM (93F13)

247

it's a big old goofy world.

http://tinyurl.com/93l3n5

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:53 AM (DqJGH)

248 great article about how Ayers probably wrote dreams of my father.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 03:55 AM (hm0CN)

249 Played trumpet at one time but my lungs can't handle that now

I play the piano, never had formal private lessons, learned from my mom, music teacher in HS.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 03:56 AM (93F13)

250

is it too much to ask ?

for passionate kisses

http://tinyurl.com/qz9834

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 03:58 AM (DqJGH)

251 A melodious tune from bygone months, as well as a mighty popular club banger.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:00 AM (hm0CN)

252 Hey, I played classical piano and represented Scranton in the Delaware state fair. Played the violin in a string quartet with Yo Mama. Opened on the road for Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin on my Les Paul Gibson. I could have been Jeff Beck if I could have gotten that limey accent down right.

I got out of practice with all my missions over Afghanistan & Serbia, and then teaching law to the Supreme Court. Now I just entertain at the White House on Wednesday nights with the Kazoo and spoons

Posted by: Joe Maestro Biden at May 25, 2009 04:03 AM (93F13)

253 251 Okay, I'll fess up. That really is a popular club song I hear, but it's a vulgar joke too

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:05 AM (hm0CN)

254 Apparently that song is also the musical interpretation by a Conservative DJ of what Dick Cheney's terrorism speech meant, a subtle message from Cheney to Obama.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:09 AM (hm0CN)

255 Did I ever tell you about the time I went over to India with the Beatles to meditate and bang Mia Farrow with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? They left early supposedly because they thought he was a phony, but it was really because he went to the can and they didn't hear a toilet flushing or sink running before he came out. The Maharisi starts blessing everybody's guitar and the next thing you know you couldn't have gotten John or Paul to play their own instruments for all the hashish in Dehli.

Posted by: Joe Yogi Biden at May 25, 2009 04:12 AM (93F13)

256

ok that was pretty funny. make sure you have like a smiley face though so i know you are kidding, that was a joke right ?

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:15 AM (DqJGH)

257 Yoko Ono singing a song she wrote with a techno remix

Warning: May cause permanent psychological damage.

Yoko Ono - Kiss Kiss Kiss

Posted by: Joe Yogi Biden at May 25, 2009 04:18 AM (93F13)

258 AoSHQ is the Las Vegas of Joe Biden impersonators

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 04:19 AM (93F13)

259 Joe Biden loved anal.

But Joe's really untruthful, it was my Bangladeshi house boy's rear that he kept tormenting. And I heard him call out his own name-- first and last-- with every rabid stroke.

Posted by: mia farrrow at May 25, 2009 04:20 AM (hm0CN)

260 i'd rather be waterboarded than hear yoko ono.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:20 AM (DqJGH)

261 Beatles - Across the Universe

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 04:22 AM (93F13)

262 You Biden impersonators are the new kings.

But Elvis is grave wrapped bacon now, still, consider it an honor.

Posted by: las vegas mob rule say so at May 25, 2009 04:24 AM (hm0CN)

263

you really have this obsession about the butt sex. it's ok though most people don't judge and the ones who do are hung up repressed losers who never get laid so they are kinda bitter .

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:26 AM (DqJGH)

264 259 Joan, that one was me.

I really should do even more smiley faces.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:29 AM (hm0CN)

265 Good gawd woman, lay off us.

Posted by: sis's endless smiley faces at May 25, 2009 04:30 AM (hm0CN)

266

264 259 Joan, that one was me.

I really should do even more smiley faces.

lol, i thought it was kdabear my bad.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:31 AM (DqJGH)

267 the ones who do are hung up repressed losers who never get laid so they are kinda bitter

I'd phuck kbdabear.

What? Just trying to be helpful

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:35 AM (hm0CN)

268 Live from the Overnight Lounge at the AoSHQ

It's Frank, Dino, and Sammy

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 04:35 AM (93F13)

269 268 That was cool.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:39 AM (hm0CN)

270 From the Pyanmunjong Lounge

Kim Jong - So Ronery

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 04:39 AM (93F13)

271

267 the ones who do are hung up repressed losers who never get laid so they are kinda bitter

I'd phuck kbdabear.

What? Just trying to be helpful

i'm kinda selecetive in who i phux, but that's me, your mileage may vary.

i don't even know how to do the emoticon thingies.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:40 AM (DqJGH)

272 Thankya vurra much. Vegas Elvis 1970

Elvis - Suspicious Minds - live in Vegas

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 04:42 AM (93F13)

273 i'm kinda selecetive in who i phux, but that's me, your mileage may vary.

Blog chatter does not equal any real world mileage.

____

Smiley do a : and a ) with no space in between

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:45 AM (hm0CN)

274 ”Þ—o‰ï‚¢”Þ—o‰ï‚¢”Þ—o‰ï‚¢”Þ—o‰ï‚¢”Þ—o‰ï‚¢

Posted by: ”Þ—o‰ï‚¢ at May 25, 2009 04:47 AM (YPrNY)

275

i volunteered for the army on my birthday 'cause they draft the white trash around here first anyway.

http://tinyurl.com/6orgpq

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:49 AM (DqJGH)

276 I did like those earlier song links too, btw.

I just wanted to post that joke song since I found it first while here connected to a lovely club song posted here.

Posted by: sis at May 25, 2009 04:53 AM (hm0CN)

277

Blog chatter does not equal any real world mileage.

that's good .

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 04:55 AM (DqJGH)

278 Hands up anyone here who thinks that Japan couldn't have a working nuke, with a built-in cell phone, mounted on a ballistic missile and in fully operational status inside of six months?
.......
You there at the back, straight to the principal's office!

Frankly, I figure it's 50/50 they already either have them or the ready-to-assemble parts sitting on shelves. It's not like NK or the Chinese appeared out of nowhere last week and the Japanese are hardly a stupid country. If Pakistan could get one to go off on the first test....

Posted by: Flubber at May 25, 2009 04:58 AM (/ykD9)

279 Star Trek Mash - Wrath of Kirk

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 04:59 AM (93F13)

280

have no worries.

http://tinyurl.com/qetsdm

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 05:02 AM (DqJGH)

281 ParanoidGirlInSeattle

Absolutely none. The forces involved are many orders of magnitude apart. You conld have some locla activity due to fractured salt domes and water tables, etc. There actually used to be a discipline for investigating the use of ADM (Atomic Demolition Munitions) for large scale civil engineering projects and certain military priorities.

On the depth issue, I believe the propagation backtrack models are biased towards actual geologic activity, so when someone came it and looked the data in the morning it was adjusted. The USGS is a civilian agency and isn't looking for these types of event. Those that are would not have been fooled.

Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2009 05:04 AM (xCBQ4)

282

the things she does to please, she's just a little tease.

http://tinyurl.com/ba5y8f

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 05:06 AM (DqJGH)

283 Flubber, I think we have agreed on this site that the Japanese and South Korean devices are three bolts from being ready. The Taiwanese device just sort of clicks together if you follow the instruction carefully.

Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2009 05:07 AM (xCBQ4)

284

none of you stand so tall, pink moon is going to get you all.

http://tinyurl.com/2g2f9a

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 05:16 AM (DqJGH)

285

let me love you , let me show that i do. let me do a million impossible things so you know that i do.

http://tinyurl.com/r7w3eh

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 05:21 AM (DqJGH)

286

My Gawd, when you come into these threads early in the a.m., you just know everyone was drinking. I just got up and find out the Norks are phuking around again. Where's that woman Billy Jeff is married to? Doesn't she have like, I dunno, a job or something where she is supposed to be handling s#it like this? Dick Morris was right, they did hide her out of the way. Or killed her and stuffed her in a trunk. Either way.

P/S-I am not usually up at this time in the a.m. with the tv on, but is it usual for Asian porn, and I mean pretty racuous porn, to be on Showtime now? Seems off, somehow.

Posted by: di butler (no longer mentioning her tits) at May 25, 2009 05:29 AM (oNWMY)

287

i'm not drinking, i'm drying out. need to catch a train.

http://tinyurl.com/csxc4z

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 05:33 AM (DqJGH)

288 Well, this is nice to wake up to. Have they dusted off Jimmy Carter yet? We can't have a proper international crisis without Jimmy right there, in the thick of things, giving away the proverbial farm, and promising untold riches in exchange for hollow promises to be good.

Posted by: DngrMse at May 25, 2009 06:00 AM (vRJar)

289 maybe jesse jackson and jimmy carter will both go over and straighten this out. maybe the north koreans will keep both of the imbeciles.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 06:08 AM (DqJGH)

290

If it weren't for nuke test, pirates, and terrorists, there'd be nothing funny about O Presidency.

/off

Posted by: momma at May 25, 2009 06:12 AM (penCf)

291

290

forgot ACORN, higher taxes, dictatorship, Hillary Clinton, Tim G. and Joe B.

Posted by: momma at May 25, 2009 06:13 AM (penCf)

292 joe b is teh funny.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 06:16 AM (DqJGH)

293

take five

http://tinyurl.com/45cnhb

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 06:24 AM (DqJGH)

294 If I wake up one morning and I'm vapor, I'm going to be really pissed off and haunt someone's ass.

Of course, I'll be vapor and thus have no mind, corporeal form, and likely no sentience... but I'll still be pissed.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at May 25, 2009 06:26 AM (nS7nk)

295 The Spirit of Locarno!

Posted by: Lord Halifax at May 25, 2009 06:27 AM (Sx0vj)

296

Of course, I'll be vapor and thus have no mind, corporeal form, and likely no sentience... but I'll still be pissed.

i don't blame you it sucks having no corporeal form.

Posted by: joan at May 25, 2009 06:34 AM (DqJGH)

297 Hillary needs to give the US people hope. She needs to mail us each a 'reset' button. I just pray she gets is right this time. I sure as hell don't want an 'overcharged' button.

Posted by: momma at May 25, 2009 06:48 AM (penCf)

298 This summer is going to be long and hot.

Sumer is Icumen in,Loudly sing, cuckoo!Grows the seed and blows the mead,And springs the wood anew;Sing, cuckoo!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 25, 2009 06:56 AM (otlXg)

299 Wait. Has Obama apologized to North Korea for the decades of U.S. aggression yet? Boy's and girls, I think that right there is the problem.

Somebody get Hillary over there quick with a basketball signed by Michael Jordan and a crate of whisky and porn. That should take care of that

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 06:58 AM (+FzLa)

300

Well I have reviewed the last 50 entries and it looks like another night of Valu-Rite and posts about titties, anal sex, general obscenities, and with a little bit of “our incompetent leaders are not only getting us all broke but are going to get us all killed”.

Yes, it is good that Il Douche has saved a few million dollars by essentially killing the missile defense program right about the time it is ready to be deployed. All that while spending a mega-trillion quatloos on welfare, and other social programs to make his communist brethren happy.

I really feel for my grandchildren. Perhaps when they get to be my age they will have a ‘rock” with a plaque dedicated to the “Wolverines” who freed the country from the Communist Oppressors who took over the country in the early 21^st century.

Posted by: Vic at May 25, 2009 07:07 AM (BYokb)

301 It is clear that N.Korea And other rogue nations of their ilk now know America has a “soft” president” We are now seen as a weak, ineffectual vacillating dinosaur that does not have to be taken seriously at all. Welcome to the world of a “do nothing ” U.S.A.This is just the beginning. Now the next in line to get out of hand is Iran/Hezbollah-Hamas. Their suitcase nukes are on order from North Korea as well as their nuclear tipped missiles and It is now known that America will run away from confrontation at every turn, more concerned with Khaled Sheikh Muhammad’s water-boarding that with Dire national security threats. In the minds of these despots “softness” is known as weakness and this weakness is the white flag of cut and run defeatism and apologia that our current administration proffers as our “new national security policy’ The clock is running and we are short of time….

Posted by: blogforce one at May 25, 2009 07:08 AM (R1Dx5)

302

Somebody get Hillary over there quick with a basketball signed by Michael Jordan and a crate of whisky and porn. That should take care of that.

Yes, kumbaya and it all started with THIS.

Posted by: Vic at May 25, 2009 07:16 AM (BYokb)

303
9 UncleFacts at May 24, 2009 10:50 PM (vZVv7)

So is the new title "The J.E.F.C.I.C." ?

Posted by: Beto The Elder at May 25, 2009 07:20 AM (F1b/5)

304 And here's what our own dear leader has to say about this,http://tiny.pl/3x7v,lord I hope I did this right this is my first time trying to post a link.

Posted by: Tee866 at May 25, 2009 07:22 AM (Vti3Z)

305 "It's almost like treaties don't, you know, stop countries from doing whatever they want." Apparently this dumbass is unaware that the US violates the nonproliferation treaty all the time; the agreement with India, protecting Israel's program from Security Council pressure, continuing to develop weapons, failing to negotiate the elimination of nuclear weapons, etc. "I can violate the NPT and you can't" Hypocritical yank wingnut...

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 07:23 AM (mXHTU)

306 Dang it lets try again.
http://tiny.pl/3x73
yeah I think I made it work.

Posted by: Tee866 at May 25, 2009 07:25 AM (Vti3Z)

307 "Just for fun, I checked to see if N. Korea was part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. " Had to look it up? Shows just how ignorant this dumbass is. Just the kind of bimbo the world needs for advice on the NPT.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 07:26 AM (h0rZ/)

308 Did you mean like this Tee? http://tiny.pl/3x73

Posted by: Beto The Elder at May 25, 2009 07:29 AM (F1b/5)

309 Yeah I did, but dangit I will get the hang of how to do that if it kill me lol.

Posted by: Tee866 at May 25, 2009 07:34 AM (Vti3Z)

310 "So It's almost like treaties don't, you know, stop countries from doing whatever they want." So what else is new? The US violated the UN charter, a treaty, when it invaded Iraq. Perhaps you should moralizing hypocrites should "look that up"

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 07:37 AM (h0rZ/)

311

So let's summarize Obama's foreign policy in a mere 4 months' time...

- Pissed off the British PM

- Even the French think we are becoming too socialist

- Pakistan is near collapse

- Both Iranian Prez AND Israeli PM thumb their nose at him (now that's rare- Israel & Iran agreeing on something)

- Situation in Afghanistan doesn't seem to be getting much better

- He gets warm hugs from Chavez

- And now Norks test a nuke

On the upside, Obama polls well in Germany.

The Chi-Coms told him he was fiscally irresponsible. The commies in Bejing have a better understanding of economics and are more capitalistic than the commie in Washington DC.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2009 07:41 AM (LKofM)

312 If so, it wouldn't be much of a loss. Other than the Field Museum and the comedy stylings of the Chicago Cubs, would the US even miss the Windy City?

Now that's just crazy talking. If we had lost Chicago, we never would have had this timeless masterpiece.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 07:46 AM (+FzLa)

313

Tee

It return after the link.

Posted by: momma at May 25, 2009 07:48 AM (penCf)

314 I'm sure this made Kimmy shit his pants (with laughter):

Statement from our Dear Reader:

The danger posed by North Korea's threatening activities warrants action by the international community. We have been and will continue working with our allies and partners in the Six-Party Talks as well as other members of the U.N. Security Council in the days ahead.

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 07:48 AM (VuLos)

315

313

it = HIT sorry, had a Biden moment.

Posted by: momma at May 25, 2009 07:49 AM (penCf)

316 Well maybe the Norks are just hungry again and this is another desperate cry for attention. Maybe Obama could just send them over a bunch of........

Fie Dorrar, Fie Dorrar Foot Rongs !

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 07:52 AM (+FzLa)

317 Maybe T Dub should look up the Oil for Food scandal and a completely compromised UN Security Council, before he expounds on morality and international law. Maybe he should look at the violations of Security Council resolutions by Saddam Hussein before OIF. Since he has a bug up his ass about Israeli nukes, maybe he should look up how Dimona was built, and how those same "International Good Citizens" subsequently built Hussein's reactors.

On the other hand, I kind of hope that NK is dealing technology to Iran, since it's not the US that's going to be in range of an Iranian missile. And it's not going to be a US missile shield that's protecting the Europeans, thanks to super smart Obama. Guess we'll see continuing accomodation from the Euros to their soon to be muslim overlords. T Dub's probably going to look good in a burka.

Posted by: sears poncho at May 25, 2009 07:53 AM (uj/0b)

318 Right...they were doing so well under Bush.. 2007 Gen Musharraf declares emergency rule while still awaiting Supreme Court ruling on whether he was eligible to run for re-election. Chief Justice Chaudhry is dismissed. Ms Bhutto is briefly placed under house arrest. 2007 Benazir Bhutto assassinated at election campaign rally in Rawalpindi. 2008 The two main governing parties agree to launch impeachment proceedings against President Musharraf. 2008: Elections postponed to 18 February. Suicide bomber kills more than 20 policemen gathered outside the High Court in Lahore ahead of an anti-government rally. 2008: Marriott Hotel in Islamabad devastated in a suicide truck bombing which leaves at least 50 dead. An Islamist militant group claims responsibility. 2008: President Zardari warns the US military that missile strikes on Pakistani territory are "counter-productive". The government borrows billions of dollars from the International Monetary Fund to overcome its spiralling debt crisis.

Posted by: T_Dub at May 25, 2009 07:54 AM (h0rZ/)

319 All I care about is that my butt sex having staff get domestic partner ship status.

Now buzz off while I go munch a carpet with my GF.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2009 07:57 AM (lX0t+)

320 "Maybe T Dub should look up the Oil for Food scandal and a completely compromised UN Security Council," Oil for food scandal? Do you know how many UN officials were found to be involved dumbass. I doubt it. Maybe you should look it up. Besides UN corruption was small potatoes compared to that in Iraq were 12 billion went missing under yanks supervision.

Posted by: T_Dub at May 25, 2009 07:59 AM (mXHTU)

321

2008: President Zardari warns the US military that missile strikes on Pakistani territory are "counter-productive".

And Obama has been attacking Pakistani territory with drones on a weekly basis, killing dozens of innocent civilians in almost every attack.

Got any outrage for that, T Dumb?

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:01 AM (70sTG)

322 I uhhh, uhhhh am very dissapointed that North Korea chose to...uhh, uhhh.........hey quick every body look at my dog isn't he cute ?! Here comes Michelle in a sleeveless dress too,.... man look at those guns !

Well guys,..... gotta run before my waffle gets cold.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 25, 2009 08:01 AM (+FzLa)

323 We get it T_Dub, everything Republicans do is bad, bad, bad....everything Dems do is good, good, good. You can sign off now.

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 08:03 AM (VuLos)

324

Even better:

Remember how we knew weeks in advance before the first test that the Norks were gonna try to detonate a nuclear weapon?

We had no clue this time around.

Way to go, Obama. Your pick of Norm Panetta and charm offensive with the CIA are working wonders.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:06 AM (70sTG)

325 Clues for semiliterate morons Number of Oil for Food program indictments of UN officials: 1, Benon Sevan accused of taking approx $100,000.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:07 AM (h0rZ/)

326

Clues for semiliterate morons Number of Oil for Food program indictments of UN officials: 1, Benon Sevan accused of taking approx $100,000.

Crooks are always so eager to arrest themselves.

Care to explain to us how Kofi Annan's son got that Cadillac, T Dumb?

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:11 AM (70sTG)

327 "We get it T_Dub, everything Republicans do is bad, bad, bad....everything Dems do is good, good, good." Apparently the facts don't support this retard's view of developments in Pakistan..

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:13 AM (QjWji)

328

Awesome! The world has beat us to our celebration of the lives our country has given so others would have their liberty back.

I love the NEW USA were everyone in the world nutbar community and his sister has nukes they are ready to detonate ...if we don't give them what they want..I guess nukes are the new black.

Posted by: ford at May 25, 2009 08:15 AM (Ki7fm)

329

Somebody detonated an IED outside a Starbucks in New York City this morning.

Must have been a Republican. Right, T Dumb?

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:15 AM (70sTG)

330 Well thank god for those Iranians and their peaceful nuke program. No way they would do anything this crazy.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 08:17 AM (+FzLa)

331 "Care to explain to us how Kofi Annan's son got that Cadillac, T Dumb?" A Cadillac? Maybe you should tell us, dumbass. I need a laugh.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:19 AM (QjWji)

332

Maybe you should tell us, dumbass. I need a laugh.

Look it up.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:21 AM (70sTG)

333 Huma Huma! yummy yummy!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2009 08:21 AM (lX0t+)

334
"Give him time, chemjeff, he hasn't gone there to apologize yet. I guarantee he sticks his foot in it somehow."

The upcoming D-Day observances will be the perfect opportunity to apologize to Germany. For the bombings of Dresden and Hamburg, for starters; and no doubt for all manner of other misdeeds that we committed during the war that we unilaterally declared on the Germans.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 25, 2009 08:22 AM (Bs1J8)

335 "Somebody detonated an IED outside a Starbucks in New York City this morning." Muslim extremist or right winger militia? The odds are about 50-50.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:22 AM (QjWji)

336 By depriving the Great Satan of its coffee, its vital spirits will be diminished.

All hail Lord Obama!

Posted by: NYC Terrorist at May 25, 2009 08:25 AM (lX0t+)

337

"Somebody detonated an IED outside a Starbucks in New York City this morning." Muslim extremist or right winger militia? The odds are about 50-50.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:22 AM (QjWji)

Yep -- them muzzies and militia kooks are always protesting Starbucks.

Right, T Dumb?

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:26 AM (70sTG)

338 305 Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 07:23 AM (mXHTU)

307 Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 07:26 AM (h0rZ/)

320 Posted by: T_Dub at May 25, 2009 07:54 AM (h0rZ/)

327 Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:13 AM (QjWji)

How many friggin' T Dub's are we blessed with this morning?

Will the real T Dub please stand up. Oh...God luv ya, what am I saying...

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 08:27 AM (VuLos)

339 We are so fucked.

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at May 25, 2009 08:27 AM (OmeRL)

340

Found this link via gateway pundit:

http://tinyurl.com/qgdp8c

Freedom is a gift only given to you from your God and your vets/soldiers.

Please don't remember them just today, but everyday.

Posted by: momma at May 25, 2009 08:29 AM (penCf)

341 "Look it up" I did. a) It wasn't a Cadillac it was a Mercedes b) Had nothing to do with oil for food. Annan's son lied to avoid paying 20,000 in import duties... Doesn't surprise me that morons who have to rely on trivia to trash the UN can't get the facts straight.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:33 AM (QjWji)

342 "Would the real T Dub stand up?" They are all me. These 'freedom loving' wingnuts banned me, so I'm forced to use an anonymizer.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:34 AM (QjWji)

343 Wait, it gets even better. Via Drudge:

Iran has sent six warships to international waters, including the Gulf of Aden, to show its ability to confront any foreign threats, its naval commander said on Monday.

I question the timing.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 08:35 AM (+FzLa)

344 You're FORCED!? Forced?

Here's an idea...How 'bout going some place where you're welcome, so you're not FORCED to break in. I know...strange concept...but give it a try.

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 08:38 AM (VuLos)

345 Muslim extremist or right winger militia? The odds are about 50-50.

I've got $10 on some "green" asshole who objects to people being allowed to purchase beverages in disposable cups.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 25, 2009 08:46 AM (HsTjj)

346

Doesn't surprise me that morons who have to rely on trivia to trash the UN can't get the facts straight.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:33 AM (QjWji)

I'm sure you're also a big fan of the UN "peacekeepers" who rape the locals and sell their children to prostitution rings.

Right, T Dumb?

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:47 AM (70sTG)

347 Komodo Dragon Attacks Terrorize Indonesian Villages
Once again, I question the timing.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 08:48 AM (+FzLa)

348 Well, if the Wikipedia link from last night is on the mark, a 4.7 mag. shock corresponds roughly to a 16-17 kT blast (approx. Hiroshima sized). The Richter scale is logarithmic and the energy of the blast scales pretty much the same way. Of course, there are corrections for the geology of the test site, etc., etc.

Everyone knew that even if the first test was a fizzle (and it was), the Norks would eventually get their shit together, fix what was wrong and retest. Preznit O'Drama has no damned excuse for sitting down on the job on this one.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 25, 2009 08:49 AM (SHKl9)

349 It's almost as if the previous century never happened.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2009 08:53 AM (0qe2I)

350 "I'm sure you're also a big fan of the UN "peacekeepers" who rape the locals and sell their children to prostitution rings." Hardly. Of course they don't seem to have anything that can compete with My Lai under their belt.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:54 AM (h0rZ/)

351

Wait, it gets even better. Via Drudge:

Iran has sent six warships to international waters, including the Gulf of Aden, to show its ability to confront any foreign threats, its naval commander said on Monday.

I question the timing.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 08:35 AM (+FzLa)

Even better:

Iran's Ahmadinejad rejects Western nuclear proposal

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday rejected a Western proposal for it to "freeze" its nuclear work in return for no new sanctions and ruled out any talks with major powers on the issue.
[ . . . ]

Breaking with past U.S. policy of shunning direct talks with Iran, Obama's administration said it would join such discussions with Tehran from now on.

"Our talks (with major powers) will only be in the framework of cooperation for managing global issues and nothing else. We have clearly announced this," Ahmadinejad said.

"The nuclear issue is a finished issue for us," he told a news conference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Obammy is doing one heckuva job.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 08:55 AM (70sTG)

352 "It's almost as if the previous century never happened." A reference to the gazillion American nuclear tests?

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:55 AM (mXHTU)

353 God I love burrowing my face in her nether regions.

Huma Huma!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2009 08:55 AM (lX0t+)

354 My new policy--ignore the idiot. Then laugh when a jihadi cuts off his head.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2009 08:56 AM (0qe2I)

355 Iran has sent six warships to international waters, including the Gulf of Aden, to show its ability to confront any foreign threats, its naval commander said on Monday.

Wow. Six. I think they are going to need some bigger boats.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2009 08:57 AM (0qe2I)

356 From Debka:

Continuing its western thrust, Iran has secretly established a new base on an Indian Ocean shore, DEBKA-Net-Weekly reveals. It is located under the nose of the US Navy.

Looks like somebody's asleep at the switch over at the CIA.

Preznit O'Drama has no damned excuse for sitting down on the job on this one.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

Gonna be the funnest 4 year's evah !

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 08:58 AM (+FzLa)

357 "Iran has sent six warships to international waters, including the Gulf of Aden, to show its ability to confront any foreign threats, its naval commander said on Monday." If you find this surprising given the constant threats from Israel and the US, I suggest you detach your retina from your navel

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:58 AM (h0rZ/)

358

Present.

Posted by: BarryHusseinSoetero at May 25, 2009 09:00 AM (3PqHz)

359 Apparently this dumbass is unaware that the US violates the nonproliferation treaty all the time; the agreement with India, protecting Israel's program from Security Council pressure, continuing to develop weapons, failing to negotiate the elimination of nuclear weapons, etc. "I can violate the NPT and you can't" Hypocritical yank wingnut...

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 07:23 AM (mXHTU)

Only the truly moronic talk this way. This isn't kindergarten where we have to treat everyone fairly. We're the superpower, we're the one calling the shots. Treaties are for trade and the UN is simply a vehicle we use when it serves our purposes. People like you will get us all killed. Newsflash, no one gives a shit about the nonproliferation treaty.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2009 09:00 AM (6beBT)

360 Wow. Six. I think they are going to need some bigger boats.

Of course by Iranian warships they mean a few jon-boats powered by 25 hp outboards, but provocative nonetheless.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:01 AM (+FzLa)

361

Hardly. Of course they don't seem to have anything that can compete with My Lai under their belt.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 08:54 AM (h0rZ/)

How do you know that?

After all, they successfully covered up the rape and prostitution atrocities for years.

There's no telling what the UN is guilty of.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:05 AM (70sTG)

362 That T-Dud is one funny guy.

My only regret is I won't be able to hear his high pitched screams as his clothes and hair catch fire and his eyes melt from his skull like candlewax as he's slowly vaporized in the ensuing nuclear flash.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:06 AM (+FzLa)

363 "Only the truly moronic talk this way. This isn't kindergarten where we have to treat everyone fairly." Fine. But spare us your whining hypocrisy when someone else does the same.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:07 AM (h0rZ/)

364 "My only regret is I won't be able to hear his high pitched screams as his clothes and hair catch fire and his eyes melt from his skull like candlewax as he's slowly vaporized in the ensuing nuclear flash." You'd never know it fron bimboboi here, but so far, yanks are the only 'vaporizers' on the planet.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:11 AM (h0rZ/)

365

Fine. But spare us your whining hypocrisy when someone else does the same.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:07 AM (h0rZ/)

You argue that what's fair for one is fair for all. Which means you support my ownership of fully automatic weapons, grenades, RPGs, land mines and explosives.

If you don't then you're a hypocrite.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:13 AM (70sTG)

366 Nonetheless T-Dud, I'll be listening for those screams, they'll be like sweet, sweet music.

In fact, I'll masturbate to them.

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:14 AM (+FzLa)

367 "There's no telling what the UN is guilty of." "I'm a wingnut and I believe absence of evidence is evidence" Tinhead.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:14 AM (h0rZ/)

368 "Only the truly moronic talk this way. This isn't kindergarten where we have to treat everyone fairly." Fine. But spare us your whining hypocrisy when someone else does the same.

Say, Whinus, you might consider investing in a browser that uses carriage returns and linefeeds. Bad enough that you dribble w/o jamming all your text together into one solid block.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 25, 2009 09:14 AM (SHKl9)

369 "I'll be in my bunk.' I think he meant bunker....with his sheepdog.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:15 AM (h0rZ/)

370

Can you lay off the "Yanks" business? Some of us originate from below the Mason-Dixon line here, after all, and the whole denotation/connotation thing doesn't have quite the impact you seem to imagine it does.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 25, 2009 09:15 AM (U1wig)

371

Yep, T Dub, it's too damn bad them Nazis kicked Einstein and the other Jewish scientists out of their douchebag Reich. Then the world could have been all fair and junk and the Nazis could have had their own nukes.

Then London would have been a smoking crater.

But dammit, we need fairness!!!!

Posted by: experience smeperience at May 25, 2009 09:16 AM (mLWOo)

372 "Say, Whinus, you might consider investing in a browser that uses carriage returns and linefeeds." Sorry but the anonymizer I'm forced to use because of the wingnut penchant for McCarthyite censorship, doesn't recognize them.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:17 AM (rnRtA)

373 Can you lay off the "Yanks" business?

He can't lay off the Yanks business. The same way his mom couldn't lay off the Yank's when they were stationed over there.

In fact, she couldn't get enough.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:19 AM (+FzLa)

374 "Yep, T Dub, it's too damn bad them Nazis kicked Einstein and the other Jewish scientists out of their douchebag Reich. Then the world could have been all fair and junk and the Nazis could have had their own nukes." So how many times must one repeat a point until you get it, retard? It ain't about fair, its about you dumbass, self-absorbed, whining wingnuts complaining when others do the same as you.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:20 AM (rnRtA)

375

"There's no telling what the UN is guilty of." "I'm a wingnut and I believe absence of evidence is evidence" Tinhead.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:14 AM (h0rZ/)

The UN fails to conduct or hides the results of internal audits, will not allow outsiders to audit them, regularly rapes the people it claims to protect while selling their children into prostitution and hides these atrocities for years.

I can see why you're such a big fan of them, T Dumb.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:21 AM (70sTG)

376 "But dammit, we need fairness!!!!" Never made such a claim. Amazing how often you wingnuts are mislead by the 'voices' in your head.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:23 AM (rnRtA)

377 Say, Whinus, you might consider investing in a browser that uses carriage returns and linefeeds. Bad enough that you dribble w/o jamming all your text together into one solid block.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 25, 2009 09:14 AM (SHKl9)

I'm sure you felt this was clever. It wasn't.

Posted by: exceller at May 25, 2009 09:24 AM (6beBT)

378

I mean, try using a more apt descriptive term - how about "Americans"? As in, "T-Dub shelters beneath the defense provided by Americans while sniping at them in defense of the Mullahs and the purveyors of Juiche socialism," or "A beneficiary of a system of global trade, commerce, and communication whose very existence depends upon the blood and treasure of Americans, T-Dub lashes out in impotent fury over his complete insignificance in the general scheme of things."

Better yet, how about "Knowing in his heart of hearts Americans are nothing like the caricatures he's constructed in his fevered little mind is the only thing that affords T-Dub the courage to say what he says. Especially on this day, of all days."

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 25, 2009 09:24 AM (U1wig)

379

So how many times must one repeat a point until you get it, retard? It ain't about fair, its about you dumbass, self-absorbed, whining wingnuts complaining when others do the same as you.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:20 AM (rnRtA)

T Dumb:

Do you think sociopaths should be allowed to own firearms?

And please explain why or why not?

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:24 AM (70sTG)

380 Googling 'UN Scandal' gets 692,000 pages.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 09:25 AM (MMC8r)

381 That T-Dumb a real hoot. He can't see the his jihadi neighbor's packing up the van full of explosives across the street, because he's too busy worrying about us crazy wing-nut's way over here across the pond.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:26 AM (+FzLa)

382 No one in the O'Bambi adminstration had any clue as to the NORK's detonating a nuc-u-leer devise. The grand predictor was the always reliable Ambassador John Bolton who called it a few days past. Then again, "The Stash" is a conservative loon who's always babbling about something, and not to be taken seriously. Matter of fact, no conservative has any degree of reliability in international affairs because they are unable to set and adjust their feel-o-meters. Only liberals use feelings instead of some whacked-out wrong headed conservative logic

Posted by: Fish at May 25, 2009 09:26 AM (FnA4R)

383 I'm sure you felt this was clever. It wasn't.

I was referring to T-Dub, not you. Read for comprehension.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 25, 2009 09:27 AM (SHKl9)

384 Results of google search of the terms 'soldier' and 'rape First page of hits consists entirely of topics involving rape by US soldiers. No doubt the UN also controls the internet.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:27 AM (rnRtA)

385 This President will be tested and tested and tested and tested (breathe) and tested and tested etc etc

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2009 09:29 AM (pe9jE)

386 Results of google search of the terms 'soldier' and 'rape First page of hits consists entirely of topics involving rape by US soldiers.

Yea, that patriotic Google never ceases to amaze me. I see their celebrating Memorial Day over there on their home page as usual.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:30 AM (+FzLa)

387 See da new Moovee I made "Return of the Trolls"

I be seen in a cameo in dat one smokin' a doobee.

Posted by: Ahnuld at May 25, 2009 09:31 AM (lX0t+)

388 Hmmm, the latest links on Drudge are saying that Russian scientists are estimating the yield between 10-20 kT. Looks like Kim is on the move, as I indicated in post 348.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 25, 2009 09:34 AM (SHKl9)

389 "Googling 'UN Scandal' gets 692,000 pages." Googling "US soldier guilty of rape" gives 4,460 hits". Doing the same for a"UN soldier guilty of rape" gives "No results" Damn those blue hat guys are good at controlling the internet.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:34 AM (rnRtA)

390 Wonder how many T_Dub's live in Oxford, UK? Cuz there sure is one that registers on a lot of online dating sites.

Nah...couldn't be. Our T_Dub is too busy battling 'yank wingnuts' online to worry about dating.

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 09:35 AM (VuLos)

391 Results of google search of the terms 'soldier' and 'rape First page of hits consists entirely of topics involving rape by US soldiers. No doubt the UN also controls the internet.

Try 'peacekeeper rape,' Suzy.

Or 'UN corruption.'

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 09:35 AM (MMC8r)

392 Please excuse the delay, as we need more time in deciding just how this is Bush's fault.

Posted by: The MSM and Your Democratic Congress at May 25, 2009 09:36 AM (+FzLa)

393 Lordy, I love that muff!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2009 09:36 AM (lX0t+)

394 "Looks like Kim is on the move, as I indicated in post 348." Actually kim is ill. This is probably about his successor.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:37 AM (tpEh1)

395 "Try 'peacekeeper rape,' Suzy. What's the matter? Your little wingnut sausage fingers too fat for the keyboard? "peacekeeper rape" 450 hits.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:41 AM (rnRtA)

396

Googling "UN peacekeepers" as a term along with "rape" as a word (Google advanced search) yields 50,700 pages.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:42 AM (70sTG)

397 is anyone watching the One running his mouth about NK?

Can anyone say Chamberlain?

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 09:42 AM (5r0Tz)

398 a "robust non proliferation regime"

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 09:42 AM (5r0Tz)

399 "Please excuse the delay, as we need more time in deciding just how this is Bush's fault." Let me help you out. N Korea built their nukes during Bush's watch.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:43 AM (SY6a4)

400 "peacekeeper rape" 450 hits.

Leave off the quotes: 83,300 hits.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 09:44 AM (MMC8r)

401

"Try 'peacekeeper rape,' Suzy. What's the matter? Your little wingnut sausage fingers too fat for the keyboard? "peacekeeper rape" 450 hits.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:41 AM (rnRtA)

Hah hah!

Googling "UN peacekeepers" as a term along with "rape" as a word (Google advanced search) yields 50,700 pages.

You're a weapons-grade idiot, T Dumb.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:44 AM (70sTG)

402 N Korea built their nukes during Bush's watch.

Hmmm, wonder who helped them build the plant's. His name escapes me right now, somebody help me out here.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:45 AM (+FzLa)

403 "Can anyone say Chamberlain? " Do wingnuts say anything else? A bit laughable given that the US refused to stand up to Hitler until he declared war on them.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:45 AM (SY6a4)

404 apparently it's three missiles - two were at our spy planes

North Korea also fired three short-range missiles, one around noon and two more later in the day, an official with South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The first had a range of about 130 kilometers, Yonhap News said, quoting an unidentified diplomatic source. The second two were fired as a warning to U.S. spy planes monitoring the nuclear test site, the news service said.

Obama said in reaction to the first report that North Korea “appears to also have attempted a short-range missile launch.”

“We’re going to need major carrots and major sticks to bring North Korea back to the negotiating table,” said Cheong Seong Chang, a research fellow at the Sejong Institute in Seoul. “The U.S., South Korea and Japan will likely push for stronger sanctions at the UN Security Council.”

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 09:46 AM (5r0Tz)

405 Let me help you out. N Korea built their nukes during Bush's watch.

I thought Clinton and Carter and Albright 'solved' that problem.

So much for the value of diplomacy and appeasement.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 09:47 AM (MMC8r)

406 403

hey buddy, it was your country's leader that ensured Hitler's rise to a world power by failing to check him in the late 30's.

Deal with it, historical fact.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 09:47 AM (5r0Tz)

407 399 "Please excuse the delay, as we need more time in deciding just how this is Bush's fault." Let me help you out. N Korea built their nukes during Bush's watch.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:43 AM (SY6a4)

They had nukes in the mid-90's. You really are a fountainhead of misinformation there limey smuck.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 09:48 AM (5r0Tz)

408 While Kim Jong-Il was dancing the Hustle with Maddy "Miss Bon Ami" Albright, the NORK engineering and non-proliferation staff were busy constructing a few nukes, Star-rucks, and General Tao's North Korean take out.

Posted by: Fish at May 25, 2009 09:50 AM (FnA4R)

409 The Won just addressed the issue. Essentially, he said it was not nice of them.
Problem solved.

Posted by: the real joe at May 25, 2009 09:50 AM (cgltv)

410 A bit laughable given that the US refused to stand up to Hitler until he declared war on them.

Yea, maybe we should have sat that one out. That way you could be speaking German right now. However you'd probably prefer that.

Hell, everyone knows real Germans speak with British accent's anyway.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:50 AM (+FzLa)

411 Results of google search of the terms 'soldier' and 'rape First page of hits consists entirely of topics involving rape by US soldiers

t-dub's lame attempt at analytical reasoning - the number of google hits implies U.S. soldiers commit more rapes? I just googled "Obama promises unicorns" and got over 52,00 hits, therefore by your logic I conclude that Obama actually did promise unicorns.

Posted by: rian at May 25, 2009 09:52 AM (i9UrF)

412 "Hmmm, wonder who helped them build the plant's. His name escapes me right now, somebody help me out here." The objective of the agreement was the freezing and replacement of North Korea's indigenous nuclear power plant program with more nuclear proliferation resistant light water reactor power plants, You referring to the agreed framework where Clinton promised to replace North Korea's indigenous nuclear power plant program with more nuclear proliferation resistant light water reactor power plants? The US never followed through.. Try reading a bit. It does wonders for one's general level of knowledge.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:52 AM (SY6a4)

413 “We’re going to need major carrots and major sticks to bring North Korea back to the negotiating table,”

In a just world, we'd be sending those carrots and sticks to Kimmy boy over on a Tomahawk.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:53 AM (+FzLa)

414 Google search of "Obama promises unicorns": No results. Once again doing a search proves too difficult a wingnut.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:55 AM (SY6a4)

415 Try reading a bit. It does wonders for one's general level of knowledge.

OK--can't resist. You mean like your ignorance of the state of play of capital punishment in the "civilized" world? The world is not just Europe (thank God)--unless you consider the Japanese to be uncivilized.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2009 09:56 AM (0qe2I)

416 Thgis shows the acendencey of the so-called third world. We aRE ADVANCING ON YOU AND WILL SOON HAVE A BOMB, INFIDELS SAHLL BURN IN ATOMIC FIRE FROM HELL!!

Posted by: Khalid Sheik Mohammed at May 25, 2009 09:56 AM (bQOqo)

417

Try reading a bit. It does wonders for one's general level of knowledge.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:52 AM (SY6a4)

From someone too stupid to use Google.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:57 AM (70sTG)

418 "Just remember...missile defense remains unproven. However, when it comes to diplomacy, especially 'smart' and 'tough' diplomacy, everyday is a new day." ..........

Well, my SDI works brilliantly, thank you very much. Teh Diplomacy, however, remains unproven.

Sincerely,

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at May 25, 2009 09:57 AM (7FgWm)

419 Doing a Google search of T Dub confirms he's actually a 14 yr. old girl from New Zealand.

Actually, that makes total sense.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 09:59 AM (+FzLa)

420

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:59 AM (70sTG)

421 452

no results? Are you retarded TDub?

52,100 results for Obama promises unicorns.

Results 1 - 10 of about 52,100 for obama promises unicorns. (0.21 seconds)

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 09:59 AM (5r0Tz)

422 er 414

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 10:00 AM (5r0Tz)

423 T. dub ♥ Member since: 07 July 2008

Level 5

Best answer

About me: Hey, I'm Taylor! Thanx for visiting my profile page!

i'm a 14 year old girl from New Zealand.

I love playing sports especially soccer, netball and rugby!

I love music and can't live without it! some of my fav bands/singers are: Cobra Starship, Fall Out Boy, Paramore, The All American Rejects, Panic at the Disco, The Academy Is..., We The Kings, Hey Monday, The Maine, Paramore, The Cab and LOADS more!

I also love:
♥Hanging out with my awesome friends ♥Ronaldo and Beckham
♥Shopping
♥The Twilight saga (Team Edward!)
♥Penguins!

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 10:02 AM (5r0Tz)

424

C'mon, guys - T-Dub is just lashing out in denial of his own feelings here: America, the very idea of it, intoxicates and obsesses him. As P.J. O'Rourke so aptly put it, America is the beautiful, desirable girl to T-Dub's frustrated junior-high self - the intensity of hatred he expresses is just a measure of how deeply smitten he is with her and how desperately he wants to disavow that.

He's hyper-aware of his (and his country's) own insignificance, and everything, literally everything seems to conspire to constantly throw that in his face with an annoying reminder of his impotence to do anything about it.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 25, 2009 10:02 AM (U1wig)

425 421

Our troll is being disingenuous, searching in quotes to narrow the searches for exact string matches to 'prove' his point, when, sans quotes, hits abound.

Either that, or he's too dumb to understand the subtleties of AlGore's internet.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 10:02 AM (MMC8r)

426 As P.J. O'Rourke so aptly put it, America is the beautiful, desirable girl to T-Dub's frustrated junior-high self - the intensity of hatred he expresses is just a measure of how deeply smitten he is with her and how desperately he wants to disavow that.

Damn. P.J. was watching me all through my teens, it seems.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 10:04 AM (MMC8r)

427 I suspect this is him, complete w/ photo:

http://tinyurl.com/qdetoq

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 10:11 AM (VuLos)

428 Too bad little Euro-pansies like T Dub don't spend more time worrying about the impending muzzie takeover and dhimmification of Europe instead of trolling American smart military blogs.

Of course, he's probably welcoming the pulsating throbbing cocks of his new Islamic overlords.

Now go get your fuckin' shinebox.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 10:12 AM (+FzLa)

429

414 Google search of "Obama promises unicorns": No results. Once again doing a search proves too difficult a wingnut.

Lying proves easy for foregn trolls. How is life in the Third World?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at May 25, 2009 10:13 AM (clULM)

430 Google search of "Obama promises unicorns": No results. Once again doing a search proves too difficult a wingnut.

Geez, t-dub, that's just pathetic

Posted by: rian at May 25, 2009 10:17 AM (i9UrF)

431

I hope all you people posting the “back and forth” with the idiot troll realize that once again he has been successful in changing the topic of the post. That topic is supposed to be the NK nuke test and Il Douche’s anemic response which in turn will invite more of the same. Instead you are talking about him and America’s evil foreign policy.

Posted by: Vic at May 25, 2009 10:21 AM (BYokb)

432 RRrraaaaaaarrrrrr! RAAAARRRRRR! Rar!

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 25, 2009 10:22 AM (K5AMb)

433 Let's all give T Dub credit. He's turned doubling down on stupid into an art form.

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 10:25 AM (+FzLa)

434 I love the meme: Bush should have done more with respect to crisis X from the left.

He used sanctions, multi-lateral diplomacy, and patience to deal with an intractable dictator; wasn't that their prescription for Iraq and now Iran? If a penniless, hermit kingdom with insane leaders can develop nukes and multi-stage ballistic missiles while their people literally eat grass -- we are expected to accepted the settled wisdom that sanctions, strongly worded letters, and solidarity with our European allies would have stopped Iraq and will stop Iran; with larger economies, oil and gas income, and leaders who appear to be far more sophisticated. Come on.

Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2009 10:27 AM (xCBQ4)

435 Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .

Hey, it's not good, but it's not bad for a 14yo girl.

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 25, 2009 10:27 AM (K5AMb)

436 Can you lay off the "Yanks" business?

He can't lay off the Yanks business. The same way his mom couldn't lay off the Yank's when they were stationed over there.

In fact, she couldn't get enough.

That's very funny. But I don't think that T Dumb is the result of some GI knocking up some limey broad. I think T Dumb is a 100% inbred limey. The typical horse face, rotten teeth, scrawny, spotty kind.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2009 10:27 AM (LKofM)

437 427

Heh. Gotta be him. Explains why he's so angry, and why he spends much time desperate for interaction, even with people he has to antagonize: he's not gettin' any.

And with that pallid, scrawny, gormless visage, there's not a woman in Britain you could blame for that.

It does explain his desires for cock, though.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 10:31 AM (MMC8r)

438 Wow, I've been called a dumb ass by T Dub, it hurts bad. Funny how T Dub has nothing to say in the way of refutation about the points I made. Then again, given how T Dub comports himself on this site, it makes sense that Muhammad is a more popular baby name in the UK than George. The flower of british maidenhood is turning away from the likes of T Dub and towards those swarthy Pakis.

Posted by: sears poncho at May 25, 2009 10:31 AM (uj/0b)

439 "From someone too stupid to use Google." No doubt this retard neglected to use quotes and thinks the fact that 'unicorn' and 'Obama' appear on the same page is significant.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:33 AM (SY6a4)

440 What happened to the quality of the trolls on here? Erg and Seattle Slough and even Honest Cloud were entertaining, not tiresome.

Posted by: Dave J. at May 25, 2009 10:36 AM (jNE9Q)

441 "Funny how T Dub has nothing to say in the way of refutation about the points I made." You mean this "Maybe T Dub should look up the Oil for Food scandal and a completely compromised UN Security Council, before he expounds on morality and international law. I've already dealt with that. Read the thread bimbo, I don't have time to repeat everything enough times so that even you will get it.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:37 AM (SY6a4)

442 "52,100 results for Obama promises unicorns. " Apparently the idea of searching for a PHRASE is way too advanced for the luddite crowd.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:40 AM (SY6a4)

443 Short review: Number of UN officials indicted in the oil for food scandal: 1 for accepting a 150,000 bribe. Number of billions that went missing in Iraq under the coaliton authority: 10-12 billion (we will probably never know the exact amount)

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:42 AM (SY6a4)

444 442 "52,100 results for Obama promises unicorns. " Apparently the idea of searching for a PHRASE is way too advanced for the luddite crowd.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:40 AM (SY6a4)

Wow, you really are completely deranged.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 25, 2009 10:42 AM (5r0Tz)

445

No doubt this retard neglected to use quotes and thinks the fact that 'unicorn' and 'Obama' appear on the same page is significant.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:33 AM (SY6a4)

;">"Try 'peacekeeper rape,' Suzy. What's the matter? Your little wingnut sausage fingers too fat for the keyboard? "peacekeeper rape" 450 hits.

;" class="posted"> Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 09:41 AM (rnRtA)

;">Hah hah!
;">
;">;">Googling "UN peacekeepers" as a term along with "rape" as a word (Google advanced search) yields 50,700 pages.
;">
;">;">You're a weapons-grade idiot, T Dumb.
;">

;"> Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 09:44 AM (70sTG)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

450 versus 50,700 hits.

T Dumb is too stupid to use Google.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 10:43 AM (70sTG)

446 Yeah, T Dub, counter accusations don't really deal with the points I made. Maybe, where you come from that kind of argument is thought valid, but it really doesn't cut it. If you don't have time, I would suggest that you actually stop masturbating in front of the computer, and try reading a logic book. It may help you to present your arguments in a cogent manner. Ah, who am I kidding? There's no curing stupid.

Posted by: sears poncho at May 25, 2009 10:43 AM (uj/0b)

447 Here's how my friend put it:

"North Korea's testing nukes and Iran's testing long range missiles. We say we don't have to worry about Iran because they're at least five years away from having enough fuel for a weapon, and North Korea can't deliver a nuke anywhere. Am I the only one who sees what a little cooperation could do?"

No, you're not. Unfortunately, the people that do aren't in a position to do anything about it in the short term.

In the end, there will be only... Iranian missiles with Nork nukes.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 25, 2009 10:50 AM (otlXg)

448 Am I the only one who sees what a little cooperation could do?"

Like the NorKs have been cooperating with the Syrians (Iran's little brothers)?

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2009 10:51 AM (MMC8r)

449 #448

Yes, one cannot forget the Nork/Syrian connection.

To repeat what many have said here - we are so screwed!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 25, 2009 10:53 AM (otlXg)

450 "Yeah, T Dub, counter accusations don't really deal with the points I made. " I repeat: One indictment of a UN official. How many Bush administration types were CONVICTED? The UN looks like boyscouts by comparison.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:55 AM (4o0LC)

451 "It may help you to present your arguments in a cogent manner." It would help if you would read the thread before spouting off...

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 10:57 AM (SY6a4)

452 t-dub, the point is that one can't draw the conclusions you are making from google hits. There are many variables that go into the results - one important social variable is that U.S. soldiers discovered to have committed crimes are brought to justice, thereby generating many more news articles. But once again, you know this, only your ideology trumps objectivity.

Posted by: rian at May 25, 2009 10:57 AM (i9UrF)

453 12 party talks? It would be twice as effective. In theory...

Posted by: JS at May 25, 2009 10:59 AM (g8z3o)

454 "Wow, you really are completely deranged. " Apparently this prmitive doesn't know what a phrase is.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:00 AM (4o0LC)

455 "Wow, you really are completely deranged. " Apparently this primitive doesn't know what a phrase is.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:00 AM (4o0LC)

456

T-Dub! Dude! Check it out!

America's flipping her hair and giving you one of those come-hither glances!

Made you look, wanker.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 25, 2009 11:07 AM (U1wig)

457 "t-dub, the point is that one can't draw the conclusions you are making from google hits. " Wrong. The point is that you have to distinquish between phrases and words placed randomly on a page. "one important social variable is that U.S. soldiers discovered to have committed crimes are brought to justice" Right like when Calley was found guilty of ordering the My Lai massacre and sentenced to house arrest. You yanks are such navel gazers...

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:08 AM (SY6a4)

458
Oil for food scandal? Do you know how many UN officials were found to be involved dumbass. I doubt it.

Ummm, he was talking about the UN Security Council, not UN officials. Do you know how many UN officials are on the UN Security Council? I doubt it. Nice try at redirection, though. And about the original point:
The 500-page report paints an ugly tableau of bribery, kickbacks, corruption, and fraud on a global scale—without a doubt the biggest financial scandal in modern history. It amply demonstrates how the Iraqi dictator generously rewarded those who supported the lifting of U.N. sanctions on Iraq and who paid lip-service to his barbaric regime. Oil-for-Food became a shameless political charade through which Saddam Hussein attempted to manipulate decision-making at the U.N. Security Council by buying the support of influential figures in Russia and France.Besides UN corruption was small potatoes compared to that in Iraq were 12 billion went missing under yanks supervision.

Another falsity, refuted time and again (especially here at AoSHQ). The money did not go missing, as was press mistakenly implied. The money was given to the Iraqi government, on time and in full. The SIGIR's criticism was that the CPA had no provision to track the money after delivery, to ensure that the Iraqi agencies were using it for the Iraqi people's benefit. The CPA argued that it wasn't their responsibility, and that there was no practical way to track the funds after they entered the Iraqi system.The press garbled the story, and people like T. Dub didn't bother to look any further.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:09 AM (VUelL)

459
Pixy!!!! Freaking lame editor. Here's the middle part:

nd about the original point:

"The 500-page report paints an ugly tableau of bribery, kickbacks, corruption, and fraud on a global scale—without a doubt the biggest financial scandal in modern history. It amply demonstrates how the Iraqi dictator generously rewarded those who supported the lifting of U.N. sanctions on Iraq and who paid lip-service to his barbaric regime. Oil-for-Food became a shameless political charade through which Saddam Hussein attempted to manipulate decision-making at the U.N. Security Council by buying the support of influential figures in Russia and France."

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:10 AM (VUelL)

460 Yes, we're navel glazers. We are not worthy of your brilliance.

Yes, to everything you have said or will say.

You can leave...you work here is done.

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2009 11:11 AM (VuLos)

461
TDub can't find "peacekeeper rape" hits on Google?

Of course not - that search term makes it sound like somebody is raping UN soldiers. That's not the problem.

Not to mention that using a phrase search when searching for content is generally not a very successful strategy.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:16 AM (VUelL)

462 "We gave the money to the Iraqi mafia who we appointed so it's not our fault" That's an impressive defense.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:21 AM (h0rZ/)

463 "Not to mention that using a phrase search when searching for content is generally not a very successful strategy." Not using a phrase when you are trying to imply the phrase actually appears somewhere is imbecilic.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:23 AM (h0rZ/)

464 "The 500-page report paints an ugly tableau of bribery, kickbacks, corruption, and fraud on a global scale—" The Heritage Foudation? Gimmee a break imbecile,

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:25 AM (h0rZ/)

465
"We gave the money to the Iraqi mafia who we appointed so it's not our fault" That's an impressive defense.

And look at the goalposts move. First it's "they lost the money!" now it's "they gave it to the wrong people!!" Why do you think that intepretation is any better than your first? You clearly haven't done any reading on any of the subjects you're discussing, particularly this one. Try reading the actual SIGIR reports, my friend, as I have. Or any reports, for that matter.

Or perhaps you'd like to tell us about North Korea's uranium program, which started immediately after Clinton's agreement. I don't expect you'll say anything pertinent or even entertaining, but at least you'll be on topic.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:25 AM (VUelL)

466
"The 500-page report paints an ugly tableau of bribery, kickbacks, corruption, and fraud on a global scale—" The Heritage Foudation? Gimmee a break imbecile,

Who wrote the report? Clue: Not The Heritage Foundation.

Dipshit.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:26 AM (VUelL)

467 Unlike you morons, T Dub has substantial international support.

Posted by: Axis of Onanism at May 25, 2009 11:28 AM (YCVBL)

468
Not using a phrase when you are trying to imply the phrase actually appears somewhere is imbecilic.

Nyoop. Maybe you can't remember the argument very well. Let me help. Only you were looking for "peacekeeper rape." Everybody else was looking for evidence of rape by peacekeepers. You couldn't find your phrase. Everbody else found the rapes.

You really don't want to think too deeply, do you?

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:32 AM (VUelL)

469 "The Heritage Foundation's stated mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies" In other words they have an agenda. This becomes obvious on reading their reports....they discuss evidence which promotes their agenda and ignore the rest.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:33 AM (h0rZ/)

470 And why should it matter if it -were- written by the Heritage Foundation? Only in the addled brains of T Dub and his drooling comrades has the Heritage Foundation ever been discredited, and it only has been so because it doesn't put up a charade and a facade of pretending to be "objective", like the sycophants in the MSM do despite their being ten times as partisan as HF could ever dream of being.

Are liberals embarassed to quote the Brookings Institution as a source, when even the LA Times admits it is liberal? Of course not. So why the hell should we be embarrassed about HF?

We REALLY have to stop buying into their bullshit premises.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at May 25, 2009 11:34 AM (/y1J0)

471
This becomes obvious on reading their reports....they discuss evidence which promotes their agenda and ignore the rest.

Petty, petty. You could easily have followed the Heritage link to the source and made an informed decision, but that would have required being able to absorb information and actually wanting to know the truth. Suffice to say that the UN independent investigation concludes that the Iraqis used favoritism in oil contracts and kickbacks in humanitarian relief efforts and oil contracts to support those

Just one sentence from Chapter Two of the UN report:

"In allocating its crude oil, Iraq instituted a preference policy in favor of companies and individuals from countries that, as Tariq Aziz described, were perceived as "friendly" to Iraq, particularly those that were members of the Security Council."

So far The Heritage Foundation is batting a much higher percentage than you are.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:43 AM (VUelL)

472
Oops. Dangling sentence:

"the Iraqis used favoritism in oil contracts and kickbacks in humanitarian relief efforts and oil contracts to support those countries that would support them on the UN Security Council."

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:44 AM (VUelL)

473 I thought Obama was supposed to be the leader who knew how to connect the dots, no?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 25, 2009 11:47 AM (vq/GC)

474 Wrong. The point is that you have to distinquish between phrases and words placed randomly on a page.

That wasn't your point, you were disingenuously using google hits to validate a premise. I called you on it. Go back to Nature polls, they may be irrelevant but at least it's Nature magazine - we might stumble on something interesting if we go to the link.

Posted by: rian at May 25, 2009 11:48 AM (i9UrF)

475 "Petty, petty. You could easily have followed the Heritage link to the source and made an informed decision, Only in wingnutland would one value the opinion of a group who has made up their mind before even beginning their 'studies'.

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:48 AM (h0rZ/)

476 Here it comes!

T_Dub is gonna tell us the Source for his 100% unbiased, factual, no-spin-whatsoever news!

Please share, T_Dub! Is it the Telegraph? *snort*

No, wait a minute, it must be the Sun. Right? The Sun? *chuckle*
No, no, too many scantily clad undressed females in the Sun to suit your needs....

must be... The New York Times!

Thats IT, isn't it, T_Dub?

Posted by: TXMarko at May 25, 2009 11:50 AM (Fo3yl)

477
Only in wingnutland would one value the opinion of a group who has made up their mind before even beginning their 'studies'.

Hahahaha!! TDub gives up. Surrenders completely. He is now my bitch, but I'll give him away for a link to the Jennifer Connelly on a horse gif.

Repeating his/her same lame argument, even when he/she knows that The Heritage Foundation didn't do the study. At least I think he/she knows.

I have to admit, though, that The Heritage Foundation's partisan bias was completely exposed by TDub's entirely objective, open-minded, fair comments. It's refreshing to have someone so willing to consider events without bringing in his or her own agenda.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 11:54 AM (VUelL)

478 ""In allocating its crude oil, Iraq instituted a preference policy in favor of companies and individuals from countries that, as Tariq Aziz described, were perceived as "friendly" to Iraq, particularly those that were members of the Security Council." Wrong. "There is no question that the bulk of the illicit oil revenues came from the open sale of Iraqi oil to Jordan and to Turkey, and that that was a way of going around the Oil-for-Food Programme [and that] we were fully aware of the bypass and looked the other way." Sen Carl Levin in an interview for the New York Times

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:55 AM (mXHTU)

479 More from Levin "We have to look in the mirror here and recognize that the direct sales that we consented to and even facilitated were the major part of the illicit revenue."

Posted by: T Dub at May 25, 2009 11:56 AM (h0rZ/)

480 It's refreshing to have someone so willing to consider events without bringing in his or her own agenda.

T Dub ventured out of the tightly controlled comment environment at FDL ---where all comments are censored to ensure no alternatives views are aired --and got spanked!

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 25, 2009 11:57 AM (vq/GC)

481 478

Thank you T_Dub, I rest my case.

New York Times, it is!

Posted by: TXMarko at May 25, 2009 11:58 AM (Fo3yl)

482 Ya know, now that I think about it, a flaming skull complete with Kim Jong hair would have been appropriate for this post.

Is that too much to ask for ?

Posted by: Blazer at May 25, 2009 11:59 AM (+FzLa)

483
"There is no question that the bulk of the illicit oil revenues came from the open sale of Iraqi oil to Jordan and to Turkey, and that that was a way of going around the Oil-for-Food Programme [and that] we were fully aware of the bypass and looked the other way."

Now proving that you don't understand how the scam worked, or even what Levin meant. Note the difference between a "sale" and a "kickback" on a sale. Keep trying, though - I'm pleased to see that you're actually doing a little reading.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 12:04 PM (VUelL)

484
I'm pleased to see that you're actually doing a little reading.

But you might try the Duelfer report or the UN report if you actually want to get a handle on what really happened. At least, that's what an honest investigator would do, rather than cherry-picking quotes to try to indict the US.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 12:10 PM (VUelL)

485
TDub's too slow. I'm out of here.

Remember to poke air holes in the lid of his jar.

Posted by: geoff at May 25, 2009 12:17 PM (VUelL)

486
The reason why I hate you yanks because you have more MRI's, toothbrushes and better dental plans.

Posted by: T_Dub at May 25, 2009 12:46 PM (1tvww)

487
BTW,
My meds are finally adjusted.
Got wheeled in front of the computer.
Have on my favorite bib.
New clear covers for keyboard and screen.
The orderly has a nice chair and a new I-Pod.
Best news my MRI appointment got moved up to June 10, 2011

Posted by: T_Dub at May 25, 2009 12:53 PM (1tvww)

488 June 30 2008:

With much fanfare and choreography, but little substance, the [Bush] administration has accepted a North Korean "declaration" about its nuclear program that is narrowly limited, incomplete and almost certainly dishonest in material respects. In exchange, President Bush personally declared that North Korea is no longer a state sponsor of terrorism or an enemy of the United States.

--John Bolton
http://tinyurl.com/ryt7r9

Rice and Bush collapsed on North Korea. I don't know what they'd be doing if they were in office now, but I bet it wouldn't be much.

Posted by: arhooley at May 25, 2009 01:20 PM (/8Y/s)

489

Rice and Bush collapsed on North Korea. I don't know what they'd be doing if they were in office now, but I bet it wouldn't be much.

Posted by: arhooley at May 25, 2009 01:20 PM (/8Y/s)

With poll numbers in the negative range, Bush would've received zero support for anything other than talks -- especially after the 2006 elections.

The dems & MSM even savaged him for holding multilateral, rather than unilateral, talks.

Posted by: Tinian at May 25, 2009 01:38 PM (70sTG)

490

sohbet ve aþk odalarýnda sohbet edilebilir. sohbet siteleri irc forum

Posted by: web günlüðü at May 25, 2009 01:39 PM (ObJLx)

491 True, Tinian. It was sad. Maybe we'll hit zero hour with the Norks, and the Won will have absolutely positively no choice but to stop them, and it'll be okay since it's, ya know, *Him* that's doing it. Silver linings etc.

Posted by: arhooley at May 25, 2009 01:47 PM (/8Y/s)

492 343 Wait, it gets even better. Via Drudge:

Iran has sent six warships to international waters, including the Gulf of Aden, to show its ability to confront any foreign threats, its naval commander said on Monday.

That's just Achmedajihad's helpful hand to America to get the price of oil back up to 140 bucks a barrel and get those selfish Yanks out of their SUV's and into Government Motors green machines. I hope Obama's Magic Windmills are ready

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2009 01:59 PM (93F13)

493

T Dub:

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Now there has been a second test, also probably a success.

Combine this with the NK Taepongdo missile: Obama’s platitudes will soon be, if they are not already, meaningless. How will Obama handle this?

Who’s up for paying billions (of dollars/yen/…) to keep Kim and Friends in power?

South Korea has a problem, obviously.

Japan has a serious problem, as the Koreans have not forgotten the Japanese occupation.

China has a problem, in that while Kim may be favorably disposed towards China, and may have to be, the treatment by China over the last 1000 years or so may be glossed over/ seriously edited, but it has not been forgotten.

If North Korea implodes (looks likely) who will take over? Northern Korea was once part of China (for how long), and Korea has paid tribute to China. How likely is China to allow a unified Korea? How likely is South Korea to willingly accept the border of China along the current DMZ?

I wonder if the North Korean political bosses and generals have thought this issue through.

Then there’s the Iranian connection: perhaps the Iranian facilities are not relevant to the current situation in the M.E. and an Iranian bomb will appear much earlier than expected.

VP Joe Biden (best known for dropping out of a Presidential race due to being exposed for plagiarism) certainly called things correctly when he said Obama would be tested.

I fear that he got everything else wrong though.

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And when you limeys slaughter unarmed Irish Catholics you're given medals for it. In fact, the only people you were able to handle in the 20th Century were unarmed Irish Catholics. You got your asses kicked out of every other country on the globe. Sad fact is your own country is being over run and you don't have the balls to do anything about it. Tosser.

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