1 Epic fail. Kinda cool to apply that to a MAJOR FUCKED UP RELIGION.

To quote Nelson Muntz - "Ha ha!"

2 The perps must be part of the unkown ethnicity/religion cadre' that has been plaguing France for some time now.

I'm glad they averted this potential man-caused-disaster before it happened

3 Mosque? As in Islamic place of worship?

Shirley, you jest.

4

This is just the administration, using fear-mongering and the 'threat' of so-called 'terrorism' as an excuse to step on our civil lib-

_{(What? Oh... no, I didn't see that memo...)}

Wow these Obama guys are really on the ball. Better than that last lot, eh?

5

Just three friendly Islamic converts who wanted to blow up a couple of synagogues and shoot down an airplane.  What's the problem whities?  Religion of Pieces!

 

6

Jailhouse converts?

Is that the same Jailhouse in the US that Congressional Democrats wants to send Gitmo detainees? What could possibly go wrong?

7

And we are not, NOT, in a Holy War.

No, ain't happening.

No way, no how.

Shush!

8 So 3 of the 4 were known and convicted criminals who just happened to convert to Islam, therefore every member of the religion should be tarred with the same brush? How about the just uncovered six decades of abuse (physical, sexual and emotional) of children in Catholic institutions in Ireland (and these weren't even converts but the authority figures in the religion). I can therefore, by your fucked up logic, assume all Catholics are child abusers? You really are pathetic aren't you Ace.

9 Suck mine!

10 So I guess that if those guys selling the fake C-4 weren't FBI agents, that they wouldn't be considered terrorists, but just friends of terrorists...or something.

11 Don't worry the liberal leftards will say, "What's the problem?  It's just the shitty Jooos.  No harm, no foul."

Bastards.

12 There's more of mine.

13 Dear Sammy,

Here is the difference:
Catholics (disclaimer, I am one) consider that what the priests did a sin, and are not proud of it.  You do not see Catholics cheering in the streets over the sexual abuse.  We are all, including the Pope, heartsick about it and the Church is taking all sorts of steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

On the other hand, a fair number of Muslims DID cheer in the streets after 9/11.  They have mullahs who preach the glories of jihad.  Unlike Catholics, who consider that the unrepentant priests will go to hell, many Muslims consider the terrorist will get a straight shot to heaven.

I don't know how much plainer I can be.  If you cannot see the difference, I suggest you take a course in elementary logic.

14 So 3 of the 4 were known and convicted criminals who just happened to convert to Islam

Posted by: Sammy

Dude, did you notice how their behavior remained criminal and their targets became Jews?

15 Nothing to see here. Move along.

16 Muslims?  What Muslims?  Where?

17  Hey, if any of them have tax problems, there's always room for them in the Administration.  They seem to have the same worldview as the First Klingon, maybe her staff needs some young go-getters like these fine fellows.

18 Dude, did you notice how their behavior remained criminal and their targets became Jews?

That's the great thing about "jailhouse conversions" to Islam. As long as you target the infidel and the Jew, you don't have to change your thuggish behavior. Not only that, but it's considered a positive should you have a workplace accident and go home to Allah.

19 Diversity uber alles.

20

 So 3 of the 4 were known and convicted criminals who just happened to convert to Islam, therefore every member of the religion should be tarred with the same brush?

Right, because it's so rare that Muslims express any interest in or carry out acts of terrorism and violence in the name of religion.  Not like those darned Lutherans and their bombings, beheadings, kidnappings, hijackings and- perhaps worst of all- serving Jello with fruit and marshmallows in it.

Nope, this here thing with the four who just so happened to follow Islam and just so happened to want to kill innocent people based on thier religion is a complete and total anomaly that doesn't follow any pattern at all.

21 Wait, palin steele told us that the world loves us more now that the Age of Obama® is upon us, so why would anyone want to do this to us?

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23 Sammy,

I don't think Ace is tarring every member of Islam. It is undeniable that Islam has a very serious worldwide problem with people being radicalized though.

24 Muslims eat pigs and fuck their sons. Eat happy thoughts.

25
Since when is it against the law to plant FAKE bombs?! Come on, totally innocent. Unless, of course, it was those radical teabaggers...

26 Yup, those Lutherans go hog wild on a Saturday night I tell ya.  They may let you have two cookies with your watered down koolaid.

Sammy, bite it....big time.

27 #13 Miss Marple, you'll have to excuse me whilst I call bullshit to your defence. The god knows how many page report from the Catholic church admits that the church were fully aware of the abuse, they would prosecute any lay people involved but protected paedophiles if they weren’t lay people, ie moved them on. It gets even worse! There are no names named in the report and there will be no prosecutions as a result of this report. This means that to this very day the Catholic church is protecting paedophiles.

28 I can therefore, by your fucked up logic, assume all Catholics are child abusers?


Catholic's ain't flyin' planes into building's, chopping peoples head's off and taking leisurely drives around Manhatty with Stinger missiles and AK-47's in thier floor boards, shmuck.

Now maybe a thousand years ago we did chop non-believers heads off and place them on pikes, but thank's to modern progression out of the middle ages and into the modern ones and enlightenment, we're all better now.

Unfortunately, most muzzies are still partying like it's 599 a.d.

29 Islam is a disease.

Reminder: The guy in upstate NY who started a whole cable channel to tell us how normal Muslims are? Yeah, he beheaded his wife.

30 Well, maybe if Islam could at some point leave the 14th century, fewer of its converts would be hell bent on blowing up shit.  Just sayin'.

31

#6-Exactly what I was thinking! Let's see if all those Nation of Islam members that are currently in the prison system could be encouraged to join up with these terrorists. I mean, really, what could possibly go wrong?

 

32 The Lutherans have it on good authority that Jesus brought a pot roast to the Last Supper.

33 Catholic priests also don't point to passages in the Bible and say that's where it says it's okay to abuse kids.

34 I think it's about time some annoyed Jews start playing pranks on Muslims by setting up buckets of pig fat on top of half opened doors. Three Stooges Style!

35 Helter Skelter, my aching ass! I'm converting!

36 Did you know maggots eat no living tissue but will eat dead tissue alone? There ya go. End of Islam...maggot bombs.

37 How about the just uncovered six decades of abuse (physical, sexual and emotional) of children


Ummm, Sammy you do realize that Muhammed had a wife who was like 9, and that he consummated with her and that even to this day that is an accepted practice, along with forced marriage in the Islamic world don't you. ?

38

Doesn't everyone want to recruit new members in prisons?  Doesn't every religion teach its adherents how to use Stingers and C4?

 

I mean you really are racists for condemning the religion of peace.  After all they were only targetting JOOOOOOS.

39 Repeat after me:

Islam is a religion of peace. The Koran is a book of peace and tolerance. Their prophet Muhammad was not an insane pedophile. The greatest reward the faithful can attain in the afterlife is achieved through murder and brutality, and this is completely normal for all peaceful religions.

Islam is a religion of peace.

Islam is a religion of peace.

Islam is a religion of peace .

40 Sammy @27:

The report, by your own admission, is from the Church. The Church has exposed the problem, is trying to correct. Yet somehow you conclude that the Church is protecting pedophiles....by exposing the problem. And somehow, this is morally equivalent to activities sanctioned, encouraged, and applauded not only by a not-insignificant number of Muslims, but also by their holy texts, i.e., the Koran and the Hadiths.

I marvel that you are able to muster the cognitive wherewithal to operate a computer.

41

Slammin' Sammy, from Miami, whose favorite hobby is playing with himself while watching videos of himself... playing with himself:

What's with the kneejerk Muslim defense there, bro? Just curious. It's no secret that almost every terrorist - or, in your case, "terrorist" - act is committed by a Muslim. And yet you trot out this weird, apples to oranges, we're-waging-war-against-the-infidels-per-our-scripture vs. religiously-enabled perverts argument. One would assume that an intellectual giant like you would be against both...

42 Obviously the suspects' rights were violated.  Outrage.  Just another day in Bush's Amerikkka. 

Oh, wait....

43 Ummm, Sammy you do realize that Muhammed had a wife who was like 9, and that he consummated with her and that even to this day that is an accepted practice, along with forced marriage in the Islamic world don't you. ?

Oh c'mon man! Don't be such a hater!

44 I marvel that you are able to muster the cognitive wherewithal to operate a computer.


I wouldn't exactly call that a marvel. Lot's of people operate motor vehicles while inebriated also.

45 MUSLIMS FUCK GOATS AND CAMELS! Exclusive on MSNBC, I swear.

Yeah right.

But they do. Oh so yummy & tasty.

46 I tell you what Sammy,
Why don't you go into a Catholic Church and yell "Your God sucks"!
Then try the same thing at a Mosque.

Report back here with your findings.

Tool.

47 I guess sending women, children and the mentally disabled to their deaths as suicide bombers is acceptable behavior in society?
Ladies and gentlemen I give you the religion of peace.

48 Heh.

49 I recognize two of these guys. They were snipers in Bosnia.

50 Screw this shit! We need to talk about those evil IDers

51 Sammy, like most liberal trolls, is a self-hating masochist who enjoys having chamber pots dumped on his head while everyone points and laughs.

He's come to the right place.

52 Allah Akbaaaaar!!!!

Being Muslim is fun. I need a knife now. To go with my prayer rug and Koran.

It's Allah's will PBUH.

heh heh heh

53

I find this schocking. I am shocked, shocked I tell you that converts to the religion of peace would attempt to commit such mayhem.

/sarc

54 Peace and Cosmoline grease !

55 What is Islam's manifesto? 

56 Sammy is awful quiet right now.

57 You know some left-wing clown is going to say this story shows how law enforcement is the only right and effective way to deal with "you know what".

58 Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?

59 Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?
Posted by: sickinmass

Tastes like bacon?

60

Sammy, If Christianity really were the same as I slam, you'd keep your stupid fucking pie hole shut, lest a fatwa be issued against you and in the near future, you meet a bloody death.

But no, deep in you pea sized brain, you realize how easy it is to criticize Christianity, and how safe.  But just  in case you didn't figure it out yet, it's no longer considered edgy.

61 Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?

Because it's there?
To get to the other side?
I don't know, but this one's eating my popcorn?

62 Ultramaroons.  Sad thing is - the one group of people who have probably worked the hardest to actually help these clowns were Jews; as teachers, social workers, defense lawyers, various charities in NY, etc.

Gonna love the stories about how these clowns partied it up, impressed the ladies with that fake Stinger, and then shaved each other - all while the FBI was listening in.

63 Well, I most certainly think the Uighars will do no harm.  Yes. Lets. Release them into the general population.  Great Idea, there, Obama. You dirty fucking son of a bitch.

oops. violated the moron code of conduct. oops.

64

One man was of Afghan descent. The others were jailhouse converts.

Another reason we don't want these Gitmo jihadis to mingle in American prisons.

65 "Sammy" is really Sami Al -Arian . . .

66 61 Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?


Because that's what Axelrod is paying me for

67 This really doesn't fit in the narrative Janet Napalitano's KGB told us to expect.  Have we confirmed that these arent 3 iraq/afghan recently returned vets?   It just doesn't seem possible that anyone associated with islam could do such a thing.

68 Jesus fucking christ, when you make or buy a new batch of explosives, you always test it for effect. Even McVeigh and Nichols knew that much. Hell even my friends and I knew to do that when we were stealing chemicals from our AP chemistry class in high school to make improvised explosives. Goddamn amateurs.

69 Hey guys remember that thing in Mumbai not so long ago? YEAH MUSLIMS!!!! You know those people who go around killing innocent people because of Jihad? MUSLIMS!!! Fucking non-muslims who defend Islam, FUCK OFF!

70

hey SAMMY fuck off

you may return to masturbating into your mother's laundry. Run along now.

71 Man, I must be the world's slowest typer. Last guy to kick Sammy.  I feel like the last cop to the Rodney King beatdown.

72 oops. Sorry Ace.
_{*tip the jar*}

73

Since when is it against the law to plant FAKE bombs?!

That's correct. Do they give out a Nobel Prize for Attempted Chemistry?

74 Better watch it Sammy, if you come to Pennsylvania the Catholics will force you at gunpoint to attend a church bazaar and force feed you potato pancakes, perogies then waterboard you with Genessee beer.

75 Unfortunately, most muzzies are still partying like it's 599 a.d.

Muhammad started hallucinating around A.D. 610 so technically they're partying like it's 699.

76 Thank God the comments are back up. I had to go over to Hot Air. It's like planet of the retards over there. Full retards.

77 Wow, Magic win!

78 and Sammy, Muslims are lucky we Christians have matured in our faith, its the only thing keeping you guys around. 

Go read: The Discovery and Conquest of Mexico, Bernal Diaz Del Castillo (~1580) and consider what might happen if you boys keep pushing.  We may have locked that dark part of soul down; but another day of innocents slamming into the pavement and we may step out.

79

The four African American men, three of whom were said to be jailhouse converts to Islam ...

Islam has little to do with it.  We're talking about four dumb [politically incorrect term for African Americans].

80 MrsPaulsFishSticks -- sounds like fun.

81

Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?

Sammy Has Two Mommies--and they both used to beat the shit out of him while screaming, "You're a fag! You've got a cock! Die, fag! Die!" at him? [Feel better now, OneEyedJack?]

82 I was captured by the Knight of Columbus as a child and forced to submit to their spaghetti dinners.

The horror! The horror!

83 #80
Typical PA summer.

84
What, they're brothers? 

Ok, on three:  1..2..

RACISM!!!!11!

85 Oh dear Lord anything but the FUNNEL CAKES!
Nooooooooooo!
It's torture I tell ya.

86 61 Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?

Because his asshole and two hands are already occupied.

87 #60-- YES YES slam down sammy right intatha mud. Good on ya! Edgy, indeed.

That is the reason for the Keffiyahs all over Manhattan. Edgy. dangerous. Oooh. looky at me.  I'm a jihadi.  mebeee..heh, er not. What? I'm supposed to do what??? oh, dude, yer crazy man.     Kaboom.  You fuckin' useful idiots. sigh.

88

I have to go for a little while. Gotta watch the Christians hang a couple of homos from construction equipment downtown.

BRB! LOL!!!

89
Sammy,
Umm.. You live a hedonistic lefty lifestyle and when you die you come back a Muslim with no drugs and no alcohol and a shitload of sand in your vagina. I don't know about you but I would be pissed off. Maybe that's what reincarnation is?
C'mon you shouldn't hate folks because they believe in one religion or another. I don't hate on the basis of religion. I hate because there are folks in this world that are just assholes.
Islamic apologists and spin doctors really pisses me off. At least with Christianity, we don't make excuses for our nuts. Muslims do.
Just don't spin it and make excuses, MoFo!!

90

The amish, right?  It's always the Amish.

Or those damn Lutherans and their crazy lutefisk jihads.

 

91 I was caught in the middle of a lutefisk jihad once. Got lye on my loafers. Horrible...

92 #79 ummm nk dude, don't go there. 

93 81  thanks, I appreciated the thought.  But we're past that point now, and the kicking is merely a prelude to the skinning.  Anyone got a copy of "How to serve Man"?

94 Wow, I missed the good stuff, but Sammy didn't even have a decent argument to make, and then ran like hell as soon as he met up with any resistance.

In other words...

Pussy.

95

New troll?  And you morons didn't save me any?

That'll teach me to step away for a few hours.

 

96

Frigging Quakers again, eh? Society of Friends, my ass.

97

What my sockpuppet said.

98 Just amazing how you can take something like this 'religion of cult', add a close minded mentality, and then cook on high for a few generations... Scary shit.
Just amazing that with all the alternate theories on anything nowadays, that people just still blindly follow whats been fed up to them.

Sucks to be them

99

Slammin' Sammy. Bubala. Grabbin' your schmekel? Where are you?

Don't get all verklempt. We love ya, you pain in the tochus.

(I think he's off watching videos...)

100 So, should we charge the prison converts with treason and send them to Gitmo?

101 I just hope palin steele is one of the four.

102 They're timing was a little off. This was supposed to happen during the O'Dumbo diversion flight over NYC.

103 58 Why does Sammy suck muslim cock?

Posted by: sickinmass at May 20, 2009 10:16 PM

The same reason palin steele does.

104 Hey sammy be suckin' some Muhamadian cock. Sammy be gettin' some Muhamadiam bofo hard. Sammy be sufferin' from some goat AIDS soon. Fuck po' sammy..........

105

When will this administration finally get serious and do something about the Presbyterian menace. I mean c'mon, everybody knows most Afghans are radical Calvinists!! The Presbyterian menace grows!!

 

Wait, you mean they weren't Presbyterians?? Whats all the fuss about then?

106

"I was caught in the middle of a lutefisk jihad once. Got lye on my loafers. Horrible..."

I feel your pain, my friend.  Damn Lutherans.

107 I marvel that you are able to muster the cognitive wherewithal to operate a computer.

The web would be a much nicer place if only we would go back to using punched cards.

108

32 eman  The Lutherans have it on good authority that Jesus brought a pot roast to the Last Supper.       I know you were kidding, but that’s not going to stop me.  The Last Supper was a Passover Seder.  Roasted meats wouldn’t have been served.   Maybe a nice piece of fish and some matzo ball soup were served.

29 Islam is a disease.   If you consider Islam a Satanic counterfeit of  Judaism and Christianity to confuse people and lead them away from God, it makes perfect sense. 

109 When the Bush administration was in charge we didn't hear about these individual incidents.  He would pile a couple of them together and then, in the midst about a speech about something else, he would say "oh and btw, we averted incidents here and here and here and here.  This administration came right out and told us about this one so I guess that is how they are planning to handle these things.

110 It's peace o' the grave, luv.

111 O Sammy's bin hidin

112

Pedantic crusader:  In the original Passover, the Hebrews were commanded to roast a lamb, share it with family, and then burn the remains before the next day's travel.  ( Exodus 12:3:  Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this month each man is to take a lamb for his family, one for each household. (12:: That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs and bread made without yeast.  Do not eat the meat raw or cooked in water, but roasted it over the fire-head, legs and inner parts.  Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it. (NIV)

There was a stupid PETA campaign some years ago stating that Jesus never ate meat.  As a religious Jew, (yes that's right, we Christians worship a Jew) he would have followed the instructions for Seder as written by Moses in Exodus, Leviticus, et al.

 

As to the Islamic reaction to 9/11, we were in a Muslim country when it occurred, and had to rush and get our kids out of school for almost a week (cool mom, terrorist days) and listened to the celebrations from the followers of the religion of peace.  So Sammy, although you have been smacked pretty hard by these fine fellows, I wish to add my bit for the common good. No Catholics/Christians CELEBRATED what was done to those precious children.  We are horrified, and will do everything in our power to prevent this from happening again.  (Another reason to take a hard look at the new Hate Crimes bill, which purports to protect pedophiles.)  The general Muslim population has never decried the events of 9/11, nor the continued horrific acts of violence (Beslan, the contractors in Iraq and Saudi, Daniel Pearl, Mumbai, and many, many others.) So please get your facts straight before you try to take on the good people who comment here. 

 

113 Mætenloch @ #68,

Agreed, but let's not be telling the bad guys where they went wrong...

114 I used to live at Stewart Army Subpost, back when it still existed.

115 If the existence of Catholic pedophiles excuses these Muslim would be terrorists, then the millions of murders committed by Mao and Stalin excuse whatever right wingers do till the end of time, Sammy.

But they don't or you wouldn't hate Sarah Palin, right, Sammy?

116

Speaking as a Islamic convert myself, I'll be the first to say - fuck these dumbass cocksuckers.  The one thing that really sucks is that they won't get a bullet to the brainstem; no, in 5 years they may get convicted and then will go right back to living off the taxpayer for the remainder of their natural lives.

Sons of bitches.  The FBI should've just let the NY ANG know about the plot and given 'em some fucking coordinates.

117 As ex-cons, I'm not entirely sure their right to vote had been reinstated. But, I wonder, just wonder who these men would have voted for. hmmmmm....

118 and another thing Sammy, its manlove Thursday - so that means thousands of little boys in A-stan are getting raped tonight -- with the blessings of Allah and becoming the next generation of suicide bombers. 

119 A big win in the contingency operations against man-made disaster!  (capture of a terrorist to everyone outside of the Obama Admin.)

120

I have a relative in prison, sadly. He was in a Federal detention center in Philadelphia at election time, and said that they brought them all down to the visiting room, and offered anyone who wanted to vote for Obama, a chance to do so. If you have not been convicted yet, and most of them had not, you can still vote. Then he went to another facility in the state, where again, there was a number on the pay phones, to call and vote for Obama. No where, was there an outlet to vote for McCain.
Additionally, they recruit young men at ALL prisons, to join the Moslem faith. This is NOT to turn these men into religious peoples or to make peaceful men out of them. For the most part, they are hardened criminals or angry young white or black men. It is primarily done to receive the personal advantages of becoming a Moslem. They have far more privileges than other religions, including diet and prayer time. And when they are released, they are soldiers of Islam.This is my biggest argument against bringing the Gitmo terrorists into US prisons! Giving them access to American criminals is NOT a good idea!  

121 will Obumbles be bowing to these Muslims today?

122 Afghan descendent accompanied by jailhouse converts to radical Islam:

Black? Hispanic? MidEastern? White?

N.B., NO RIGHT WING RADICAL INVOLVEMENT, Homeland Security.

That's right, the conservatives are disgruntled that corrupt politicians are unsatisfied with their porky status quo since liberals are going in for the kill and the Constitution's decimation.

Hugh Hewett made a point that Bill Bennett reiterated this morning; America tomorrow may well rely on returning vets to run for public office.

All the more reason for Obama's political party to annihilate our military.

So much tax money spent to pervert voting records, supplementing ACORN falsified registrations, figuring how to twist machine counts, all the while denying our military abroad THEIR VOTES, still!

123

all the while denying our military abroad THEIR VOTES, still!

Great points but that one gets me everytime.  I think that someone should introduce a bill that would make it mandatory for all Military votes be counted before any of the regular votes are counted.  They should always matter and as the active protectors of our freedom there voices should be the first that are heard.

124

Schumer says, "this group was relatively unsophisticated, penetrated early, and not connected to another terrorist group,"

The paragraph preceding says,  "undercover agents posing as Pakistani militants linked to Al Qaeda."

Uh Chuck, these gomers thought they WERE connected to another terrorist group.  If the fake Al Qaeda FBI guys hadn't caught them first, they could have found some sophisticated foreigners to give them the help they needed.

125 "I see "religion," I even see "of," but I'm not seeing "peace." Peace? From people who regard the old testament as the world of god? Get real.... "They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Moses, a terrorist original.

126 Lot of welfare money to give these monsters their big fat bellies.....Thank you bloombergie

127 I guess all that apologizing by Obama didn't amount to much.

128

Thanks Roadking-our votes haven't been counted in three elections so far-2000, 2004 and 2008.  I can't wait to come home, but I wonder what I'm coming home to, when my hubbie and I are disenfranchised for service to our country.  I think your idea rocks.

129

" I guess all that apologizing by Obama didn't amount to much."

Maybe he should have apologized to the FBI

130

Moses, a terrorist original.

Posted by: T Dub at May 21, 2009 07:53 AM (QjWji)

 

T Dumb how many Egyptians did the Soviets kill when the Jews left Egypt?

131 t-dub, surely you've noticed that the barbarism  you allude to is not practiced in the modern age - enlightenment, age of reason and all that. However the Taliban and others still take similar shit seriously, that's the problem. You don't even try to reason, you just desperately look for any half-baked moral equivalence to reinforce your juvenile world-view. 

132 Obviously, what you all don't seem to realize is that if the U.S. would just force Israel to give the Palestinians a state along side Israel (but free of Jews, mind you) that the Muslims would cop a loving attitude toward the Jews and the western world and we could actually begin to enjoy our unicorns.

133 "T Dumb how many Egyptians did the Soviets kill when the Jews left Egypt?" A myth. The Jews were never in Egypt. Perhaps you should do something radical and starting reading books by people who aren't wearing loin cloths. "The New York Times As Rabbis Face Facts, Bible Tales Are Wilting Sat Mar 9, 9:03 AM ET By MICHAEL MASSING The New York Times Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation. Such startling propositions the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity until now."

134 "131 t-dub, surely you've noticed that the barbarism you allude to is not practiced in the modern age " It is still worshipped and hence not far from the surface. I haven't seen any poll but I suspect that most of these primitive bible thumpers are very big backers of torture.

135

Chuck Schumer's dad should be charged with creating a "man caused disaster".

As a New Yorker I just want to say Fhuck Schumer.

136

Moses, a terrorist original.

Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses.

Posted by: T Dub at May 21, 2009 08:29 AM (4o0LC)

 

Why do you call someone who never existed a terrorist?

137

I haven't seen any poll but I suspect that most of these primitive bible thumpers are very big backers of torture.

 

Real torture is trying to read through the utter stupidity that you write.

138
"Why do you call someone who never existed a terrorist?"

Good point. Make that "model terrorist".

139

Forgive me, TDub, for not blindly following the New York Times.

Deaf, dumb and blind to irony is no way to go through life, son.

140 I recall the MSM "rebranding" of the 6 wannabes terrorists in south FL that were caught in a sting by the FBI. they went from being a serious threat to a a group of  not very smart kids led astray by a wise guy undercover agent in about 2 weeks. Do expect more of the same here. Don't expect an investigation into the organized effort to radicalize criminals via Islam in prisons.

141

"Real torture is trying to read through the utter stupidity that you write."

Funny how some people have such difficulty reading the New York Times. Is too multisyllabic or are you only comfortable reading stuff by people in loin cloths?

142

Funny how some people have such difficulty reading the New York Times.

give it time. at the rate they're going, it will be impossible to find the NYT.

143

Funny how some people have such difficulty reading the New York Times.

No difficulty--it's a matter of choice, you see.  I choose not to patronize traitors, dilletantes and communists.

I see you have difficulty reading the Bible.

I also see that you have great difficulty in espousing exactly what you believe, TDub.  That's a sad existence.  Really, I pity you.

144 T Dub - people, smart people even, have been trying to make the same argument that your making for 35 centuries.  But not that you are making them... Hallelujah - I can see!!!

145

Funny how some people have such difficulty reading the New York Times. Is too multisyllabic or are you only comfortable reading stuff by people in loin cloths?

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 08:48 AM (a2h4u)

 

T Dumb are you going in and out of character now?

146 They were supposedly seeking retribution for US actions in Afghanistan. The naked truth is that this a cultural conflict that would happen if we weren't at war anywhere. The media giving these losers cover by evoking A-stan is pathetic.

147 It is still worshipped and hence not far from the surface. I haven't seen any poll but I suspect that most of these primitive bible thumpers are very big backers of torture.

Once again, t-dub, you avoid empirical evidence and retreat to hypothetical bullshit.
The religions are practiced but obviously not in the same form as in the ancient past. God, you're boneheaded, you just stubbornly refuse to honestly analyze the world around you. 
 

148

"T Dub - people, smart people even, have been trying to make the same argument that your making for 35 centuries.  But not that you are making them... Hallelujah - I can see!!!"

The dumb ones apparently. According a poll in Nature, one of the world's most important scientific publications only 7% of the US leadig scientists (as defined in the article) believe in a personal god. But I don't expect that the loin cloth crowd is very big on science....

http://tinyurl.com/2jgm4

149 T Dub is an ignorant, filthy racist. Who sucks.

150

nikkolai is a loin-cloth loving simpleton who hates facts.

151

But I don't expect that the loin cloth crowd is very big on science....

I'm huge on science.  Love it.  Right down to string theory.

I'm also aware of its limitations--life without a certain degree on humility on this tiny blue dot is fraught with peril because we do not, in fact, have all the answers.

Science and scientists are fallible, TDub--just like the rest of us.

152

I love it when the loin cloth crowd froths at the mouth when presented with facts they don't like. Good thing Eistein wasn't one of them. Instead of Relativity we would have had "Time dilation? &%@!!! Drool. Suck. Gonads. Dick"

153

The dumb ones apparently. According a poll in Nature, one of the world's most important scientific publications only 7% of the US leadig scientists (as defined in the article) believe in a personal god. But I don't expect that the loin cloth crowd is very big on science....

 

The loin cloth crowd? You mean Tarzan or Chuck Heston in Planet of the Apes? T Dumb you are at Biden levels of stupidity.

154

I love it when the loin cloth crowd froths at the mouth when presented with facts they don't like. Good thing Eistein wasn't one of them. Instead of Relativity we would have had "Time dilation? &%@!!! Drool. Suck. Gonads. Dick"

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 09:41 AM (a2h4u)

 

If anyone ignores facts that he doesn't like T Dumb it's you. In fact, we could fill volumes with the basic information that you don't know. But you just keep right on getting all of you "facts" from the NY Times and think yourself smarter than everyone else.

155
"Science and scientists are fallible, TDub--just like the rest of us."

Agreed. And recognizing that fact is the strength of science.

Of course that doesn't change the fact that a bunch of primitives in loin cloths who knew nothing of the world beyond a few donkey days ride from Jerusalem don't have a snoball's chance in hell of getting it right.

156

Good thing Eistein wasn't one of them.

Al never could come to grips with quantum mechanics.  His stuff still doesn't work at that level.

Try again.

157

And recognizing that fact is the strength of science.

Refutation:  See warming, global.   

158

I'm curious why tom dubya feels compelled to come here and attempt to turn the FACTS about this article into a comdemnation of Christianity.

Obviously, there is something missing in his life that he would be so bitter and angry to be compelled come here and talk to total stangers the way he does.

Why tom dubya? What's driving this compulsion?

159

"Al never could come to grips with quantum mechanics.  His stuff still doesn't work at that level."

Gee Einstein didn't produce a unified theory - not much of a critique given that it applies to every scientist who has ever been born.

160 I love it when the loin cloth crowd froths at the mouth when presented with facts they don't like. Good thing Eistein wasn't one of them. Instead of Relativity we would have had "Time dilation? &%@!!! Drool. Suck. Gonads. Dick"

 The problem is, t-dub, you don't present facts, just emotional arguments and specious analogies. In fact your comment here is a good example. By the way, you reached a new level of fatuousness with that "Eistein" (Einstein?) line - congratulations!

161

"I'm curious why tom dubya feels compelled to come here and attempt to turn the FACTS about this article into a comdemnation of Christianity."

Because I hear you primitive bible thumpers ragging on Muslims when there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you.

162

Have you ever noticed, T Dub, how people who think they are more intelligent than everyone else, never are, and how people who think that they have all the right answers never do?

163

" The problem is, t-dub, you don't present facts, just emotional"

This simpleton will now reveal how a poll from Nature and a New York Times story about modern archaeology are 'emotional'

164 Pass the popcorn.

165

"I'm curious why tom dubya feels compelled to come here and attempt to turn the FACTS about this article into a comdemnation of Christianity."

Because I hear you primitive bible thumpers ragging on Muslims when there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you.

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 10:02 AM (a2h4u)

 

Oh T Dumb, you're a laugh a minute. You really may be dumber than Biden.

166

"Have you ever noticed, T Dub, how people who think they are more intelligent than everyone else, never are,"

Not at all. I have noticed that low IQ simpletons rely heavily on unprovable claims however.

167

" The problem is, t-dub, you don't present facts, just emotional"

This simpleton will now reveal how a poll from Nature and a New York Times story about modern archaeology are 'emotional'

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 10:04 AM (a2h4u)

 

The NY Times is the center of truthful reporting. They would never make up facts or hid information to support their side of a story. T Dumb how many Soviets worked on the NY Times poll?

168

Not at all. I have noticed that low IQ simpletons rely heavily on unprovable claims however.

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 10:07 AM (a2h4u)

 

T Dumb you've been looking in the mirror.

169

Because I hear you primitive bible thumpers ragging on Muslims when there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you.

Such a mindless statement speaks for itself. Not even in their wildest dreams do Christian fundamentalists chop off clitorises, have public behadings, and the like. But you are just a dupey dupe.

170

Just three friendly Islamic converts who wanted to blow up a couple of synagogues and shoot down an airplane.  What's the problem whities?  Religion of Pieces!

Isn't "diversity" just grand? (sarc)

171 This simpleton will now reveal how a poll from Nature and a New York Times story about modern archaeology are 'emotional' - t-dub (the modern-day "Eistein")

 You're right, I should have added irrelevant distractions to the list. All of the Nature and NYT articles in the world won't reinforce your original (empirically falsifiable) argument that there is a moral equivalence between jihadists and other religions in the 21'st century - that's the point you were trying to make. Why you feel the need to construct that  fictional world in your mind is beyond me.

172 As for the Catholic Church, Sammy, that's your "Liberation Theology" at work. The Left did infiltrate the Catholic Church in many areas.

173

"The NY Times is the center of truthful reporting. They would never make up facts or hid information to support their side of a story. T Dumb how many Soviets worked on the NY Times poll?"

The New York Times is sometimes wrong? That's some critique - you analytic skills are impressive. I assume that'd the result of endless hours of study at Sunday school.

174

"As for the Catholic Church, Sammy, that's your "Liberation Theology" at work. The Left did infiltrate the Catholic Church in many areas."

Note that this knuckledragger doesn't even attempt to make a link.  I suspect he tried that once and got smacked down mercilessly.

175

The New York Times is sometimes wrong? That's some critique - you analytic skills are impressive. I assume that'd the result of endless hours of study at Sunday school.

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 10:25 AM (a2h4u)

 

First, it's a more rare instance when the NY Times is right.

Next, why would you assume that I attended Sunday school? I never did by the way. I could be Jewish or Muslim or worship Jupiter for all you know. You've got a lovely foaming at the mouth hatred of Christianity.

176

Who the fuck is "Eistein"?

177

"All of the Nature and NYT articles in the world won't reinforce your original (empirically falsifiable) argument that there is a moral equivalence between jihadists and other religions in the 21'st century"

Let's see...

Christianity - the religion of those who committed some of biggest genocides in history...

Native North Americans
the holocaust
Rwandan genocide
the Congo (Sudan looks small by comparison)

Then of course there is slavery, lynching, child abuse...

Need I go on?

178

Christianity - the religion of those who committed some of biggest genocides in history...

Native North Americans
the holocaust
Rwandan genocide
the Congo (Sudan looks small by comparison)

Then of course there is slavery, lynching, child abuse...

Need I go on?

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 10:35 AM (a2h4u)

 

You are stunningly stupid.

179

"Because I hear you primitive bible thumpers ragging on Muslims when there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you. "

Show me where. How many Muslims have been beheaded in the last year by Christains? By Jews? How many priests\rabbis have called for holy war against the Muslims in the last year? How many priests\rabbis have said it's OK to beat your wife if she doesn't do what the man says. How many priests\rabbis say it's OK in the eyes of god if you kill your children because they fell in love with someone of a different faith? How many mosques have been targeted with explosive in the last year by christian terrorist cells?

Oh... I'm not a Christain and I haven't ragged on Muslims.

Obviously, you can't hold a civil conversation without resorting to attempted insults.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe if you stayed clear of the insults and took the high road that poeple may do the same to you in return? You'd be amazed at how many people would grant your point made if you actually gave undisputed FACTS.

And you may actually learn something...

"Not at all. I have noticed that low IQ simpletons rely heavily on unprovable claims however."

Aren't you doing just that by siting the NYT story? They have no proof. Hell, the story is FULL of "probably" this and "maybe" that. and you neglected to site this part of the story:

"Even some Conservative rabbis feel uncomfortable with the depth of the doubting. "I think the basic historicity of the text is valid and verifiable," said Susan Grossman, the rabbi of Beth Shalom Congregation in Columbia, Md., and a co−editor of "Etz Hayim." As for the mounting archaeological evidence suggesting the contrary, Rabbi Grossman said, "There's no evidence that it didn't happen. Most of the `evidence' is evidence from silence."

Given both sides, I'd say you have more convincing to do...

180

"Who the fuck is "Eistein"?


Andy sticking to his specialty - typos.  It's probably wise that he stays at the shallow end of the pool.

181

BTW, the New Testament is what Christians follow, not the Old Testament. God showed us a new way through His Son. And the Jews had their own theological change to not practice stonings etc. too. That hasn't happened in Islam, which is why it's a lie to type, "when there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you," when (pretty obviously) you haven't lost your head after decades of being an atheist living in the U.S.

182

Ooh, I hurt Tommy's feewings. 8=^(

183

Note that this knuckledragger doesn't even attempt to make a link.  I suspect he tried that once and got smacked down mercilessly.

For starters, read it and weep, dupe. You really need your head bashed in, to knock the "multicultural" brainwashing out, and your mouth bashed in, so you can fellate Hugo Chavez better.

 

184
"Show me where. How many Muslims have been beheaded in the last year by Christains?"

An oft repeated knuckledragger claim....which I prefer in teh following form:

"The fact that we killed tens of thousand of Iraqi civilians when we bombed their cities is irrelevant. How many Muslims did we behead?"

185

"The fact that we killed tens of thousand of Iraqi civilians when we bombed their cities is irrelevant. How many Muslims did we behead?"

Now see... If you could leave out the insult part, we could have a discussion about this point.  Do you want to restate your post? I'll answer if we can have a conversation without insults.

Want to take a shot at the other questions I asked?

186

"Read and weep. dup"

Link doesn't work. Probably his first.

187

Try again dupe, the link works just fine. The book is meticulously researched, about how the the Left wormed its way into the Church. Dupe's mind needs another swing of the baseball bat, and dupe's mouth needs it too.

Can we drop the banhammer now?

188

"Do you want to restate your post?"

Sure. I find it amusing that you get so hot and bothered about beheadings but not the American specialty - the lethal injection.

189

tens of thousand of Iraqi civilians

Proof, please.

No Lancet quotes allowed.

And I can assure you, that if the objective was to kill Iraqi civilians, much more effective ways were and are available. 

Therefore, TDub, get a grip on the whole question of intent and get back to us.

As for this:

Gee Einstein didn't produce a unified theory - not much of a critique given that it applies to every scientist who has ever been born.

You miss the point (intentionally, I suspect).  Even Einstein had limitations--so let's be a tad more humble as mere humans hurtling around the universe and pretending that we know all the answers when we haven't even scratched the surface.

190

Sure. I find it amusing that you get so hot and bothered about beheadings but not the American specialty - the lethal injection.

This is dupey on so many levels. Putting a vicious animal to sleep permanently is hardly the same as beheading a battlefield prisoner. Let me guess, this dupe wants to free Mumia. Can we hunt down and kill this one, please?

 

 

 

191

"Sure. I find it amusing that you get so hot and bothered about beheadings but not the American specialty - the lethal injection."

I don't believe in lethal injection.

That being said, don't get off track. Do you want to ask the original question again?

You do want my response, don't you?

 

192 And waiting for your response to the other questions I asked you in post #179...

193

"I don't believe in lethal injection."

Excellent. Then you are not all that far away from the proposition that there is a moral equivalence between the Christian right and Jihadis.

194

The fact that we killed tens of thousand of Iraqi civilians when we bombed their cities is irrelevant. How many Muslims did we behead?

Fewer than Muslims killing other Muslims in Iraq and around the world even if you get over that little point of trying to compare wartime combat casualties to the personal act of beheading someone for breaking religious tenets or for e.g. jsut being a Jew.

And re. "tens of thousands", how about "thousands" being more accurate? A study by the Project on Defense Alternatives at Commonwealth Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts (USA), concluded, "Our analysis of the evidence leads to the conclusion that between 10,800 and 15,100 Iraqis were killed in the war. Of these, between 3,200 and 4,300 were noncombatants--that is: civilians who did not take up arms."

195

And waiting for your response to the other questions I asked you in post #179...

Posted by: theBman at May 21, 2009 10:59 AM (/vN7m)

 

You'll never get one. The asshole repeats a few talking points then gets put back in his straightjacket for the rest of the day.

 

196

Going to ask the question again or not?

Going to answer the other questions I asked in #179 or not?

197

"This is dupey on so many levels. Putting a vicious animal to sleep permanently"

Let me help you out. There are two issues; murder and the method - you are doing your best to conflate the two for political purposes.

198 Christianity - the religion of those who committed some of biggest genocides in history...

 Those were not religious movements, for instance one hardly could call the Nazi leadership devout Christians - Hitler dabbled in paganism and the occult, for example. As far as slavery, you conveniently forget that the abolitionist movement was dominated by religious types both in Britain and the U.S.
Yes, awful atrocities have occurred in nations with a Christian heritage but as a rule, in recent times they are not religious movements.  I can't recall the Pope calling for the death of an author as a punishment for blasphemy, Presbyterians don't routinely scream "Death to those who insult Presbyterianism!" at London rallies and from what I can gather, Lutherans are rather lax about punishment for apostates. But you know all of this, you just want to live in a fictional world of moral equivalence.       

199

jsut

Oh, no, I'm suffering from Tomitis. Or is that "Tomitosis"? Doh!

200

Here, let me help you tom dubya:

Q:  How many priests\rabbis have called for holy war against the Muslims in the last year?

A: None 

Q: How many priests\rabbis have said it's OK to beat your wife if she doesn't do what the man says.

A: None

Q:How many priests\rabbis say it's OK in the eyes of god if you kill your children because they fell in love with someone of a different faith?

A: None

Q:How many mosques have been targeted with explosive in the last year by christian terrorist cells?

A: None

See, it's not hard... If you have answers that are different, please post them.

201

"Going to answer the other questions I asked in #179 or not?"

Try to construct argument simpleton. You may find it an interesting experience.  If it has merit (which I sorely doubt) I may respond.

202

"How many priests\rabbis say it's OK in the eyes of god if you kill your children because they fell in love with someone of a different faith?"

How many Mullahs say so? Don't bother responding without hard data.

203

There are two issues; murder and the method - you are doing your best to conflate the two for political purposes.

Dispensing justice to vicious animal murderers is hardly the same as murder. YOU are trying conflate the two for political purposes, and failing..

Projection doesn't just happen at the multiplex.

204

"How many priests\rabbis say it's OK in the eyes of god if you kill your children because they fell in love with someone of a different faith?"

How many Mullahs say so? Don't bother responding without hard data.

Posted by: Tom Dubya at May 21, 2009 11:11 AM (a2h4u)

 

Coming from an idiot who makes everything up it's funny that you demand hard data.

205

"Coming from an idiot who makes everything up it's funny that you demand hard data."

Wrong again. I've posted hard data in this thread...a poll from Nature. Where's yours loin-cloth boy?

206

"Dispensing justice to vicious animal murderers is hardly the same as murder."

Sure it is. Which is why the civilized world has banned it. You yank retards are the last hold out.

207

Then you are not all that far away from the proposition that there is a moral equivalence between the Christian right and Jihadis.

Utter nonsense.  You are going to have to back that one up.

Capital punishment for criminal misconduct is not a religious question--it's a political/judicial one in democracies.  It's a religious question in most Islamic countries.

And just to throw a kink in the whole Christian right as pect of your argument--are you aware that Mexico's Green Party favors capital punishment?

208

Wrong again. I've posted hard data in this thread...a poll from Nature. Where's yours loin-cloth boy?

A poll in Nature magazine. That's your hard data? No wonder why you're so goddamn dumb. How many Soviets helped complete the poll T Dumb?

209

Which is why the civilized world has banned it.

Japan might disagree with you.

210

"Dispensing justice to vicious animal murderers is hardly the same as murder."

Sure it is. Which is why the civilized world has banned it. You yank retards are the last hold out.

Enjoy your dhimmitude, dupe.

211

Wait... T-Dub actually used a NYT story as "proof"?

Dude, most of us over here wouldn't believe the NYT if they printed "The sky is blue" without going outside and checking it ourselves first.

212 If civil law executions = religious law beheadings, then shouldn't we release every convict because being kept against your will in a prison cell is the same as kidnapping?

213 I've posted hard data in this thread...a poll from Nature. Where's yours loin-cloth boy?

Yes, "Eistein", you posted a poll from Nature - of course it was completely irrelevant to the subject at hand. But hey, it makes you look brainy and you can snark about loin-cloth and stuff!

214

Enjoy your dhimmitude, dupe.

And if Tom is English, or a Brit, (taken from his "yanks" comment), that might be coming alot sooner and more literally than he thinks. Be a radical atheist in Finsbury Park, Tom, and then we'll talk about your experiences a few months from now.

215

"How many Mullahs say so? Don't bother responding without hard data."

Funny, you STILL haven't answered the question. The question is:

How many priests\rabbis say it's OK in the eyes of god if you kill your children because they fell in love with someone of a different faith?

it's really easy to answer. I even posted a cheat sheet for you.

That's OK, I'll bite anyways.

What data is hard enough for you?

http://tinyurl.com/p7fhk4

Would the fact that Sharia courts regularly do not punish a man for honor killings be enough? "Judges" in Sharia courts are the highest islamic authority in the area at the time of trail; usually a local Imam or Mullah.

Surely that data is just as "hard" as the evidence you tried to pass by selectively quoting a NYT article...

So my answer to your question would be:

Indirectly MANY, by NOT punishing those that murder in the name of "honor", they effectively tell there followers that it is OK. Whay else would Turkey be logging 1000 honor killings a YEAR! Just lik e MANY condone jihad against "infedels" by NOT condemning it...

Want to try again? These are not hard questions to answer. each one only requires a number, but I'd be OK with generalities.

Oh, and even though you insts it on me, I won't require "hard evidence" I'll be happy to take a site from any non-partisan, unbiased website you may find.

216 The GOP could use these arrests to absolutely nuke Obama's drivel this morning. Dittos to one and all on how THIS criminalization of terrorism DOES NOT WORK YOU FREAKING MORONS IN D.C.!

No disrespect, but I hope and pray all the Jews who voted for Obama now get why, we who are not Jews, could not even remotely fathom why they wanted to support a man who wants nothing but the demise of all Jews in every corner of the world. He wants to sell out Israel to a two party state system which will possibly give the Temple Mount control to Iran! Read Arutz Shiva today! He wants to impose sanctions on Iran because they have been naughty in speaking, "just words", against the total existence of Israel. Yeah, that has really worked in the past! Did you Jews happen to notice that missile launch yesterday? And just how safe are Jews in this nation going to be if we bring GITMO prisoners the our shores?

It is a sad thing indeed when Evangelicals and general Americans in this nation are more worried about the state of Israel, and Jews in this nation than Jews themselves. When will you people ever understand your very lives hang in the balance both in Israel and here in America? God help you, and may he remove the scales from your eyes!

217

166 - T Dub

Of course you haven't.  It was a rhetorical question, Einstein.

 

218

"Try to construct argument simpleton. You may find it an interesting experience.  If it has merit (which I sorely doubt) I may respond."

Still with the attempted insults. You know, there is help for Tourette's Syndrome sufferers out there. If you truely can't help yourself, I'd urge you to seek help. Social interaction is much more rewarding when everyone DOESN'T think you are an crazy asshole. (I don't, BTW. I think you are just missguided and maybe didn't have social graces taught to you when they would have made a difference. Not your fault... or it's Tourette's. Again, not your fault. Some people are compelled to lash out at those they dissagree with or threaten their worldview)

The argument was constructed by you. The argument that you started with this post...

""Because I hear you primitive bible thumpers ragging on Muslims when there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you. "

...is that there isn't a dimes worth of difference between Christians and Muslims. I argue that there is, and ask the questions posted to refute your claim. (For those that are coming into this thread late, tom dubya won't answer the questions I asked of him in post #179)

Typically, if you can't answer simple questions posed by your opponent in a way that would back up your argument in a debate, you consede you argument is without merit.

Now, if you can show me how modern Christianity and modern Islam are no different in their worldview, human rights, and freedoms held as sacred by most western civilizations (i.e. freedom of speech\religon\defense\etc.), I'd think about letting you get away without answering the questions.

Otherwise, your arguement has no merit.

219

Huh.  I wonder what happened to T-Dub.

Oh wait...I just noticed the clock.  Must be time for him to report to his local mullah for his daily buggering.

220 Now where do you suppose they got that C-4 explosives and the STINGER MISSLES? it certianly wasnt from a gun store that liberal dorks want closed down

221

"Oh wait...I just noticed the clock.  Must be time for him to report to his local mullah for his daily buggering."

You seem to be confusing Islam with Catholicism.

222

"Funny, you STILL haven't answered the question."

Apparently this twit thinks people are obligated to respond to his boring questions.  That is weird to say the least.

223

Good, You admit to your arguement has no merit.

See, that wasn't so hard.

224

"...is that there isn't a dimes worth of difference between Christians and Muslims."


The holocaust, Rwandan massacre, slavery, lynching, the Congoloese genocide, the North American Indian genocide - a small sample of Christians at work. But I repeat myself....


Of course there is always the Munich 'massacre' (12 dead) or the Lod Airport 'massacre' (26 dead) but these were child's play compared to My Lai (500+).

225

"Good, You admit to your arguement has no merit."

No but you are welcome to delude yourself if it makes you feel better.

226

"Apparently this twit thinks people are obligated to respond to his boring questions.  That is weird to say the least."

So let me get this straight. You make a provably false - and rather insulting to many - claim. Someone asks you to clarify that claim by answering a few simple questions... and it's "weird" that they would expect an answer?

Seriously? Is that what they are teaching in high school these days?

I see... your answer is, "shut up"

And yes, you are obligated to answer the questions if you want to be taken as anything but a bitter, batshit crazy bigoted liberal fascist.

You do realise that refusing to answer the questions, as you have just done, says more about you than it does the topic discussed. Think about that. What kind of person does that make you?

........

And STILL with the attempted insults...

Seriously tom dubya, get help. You will find life much more rewarding. Tourette's can be quite socially debilitating, as I'm sure you know.

227

"The holocaust, Rwandan massacre, slavery, lynching, the Congoloese genocide, the North American Indian genocide - a small sample of Christians at work. But I repeat myself....


Of course there is always the Munich 'massacre' (12 dead) or the Lod Airport 'massacre' (26 dead) but these were child's play compared to My Lai (500+)."

Of which NONE of these were endorsed by the church.... or cheered about in the streets like muslims did in the middle east on 9\11.

Ahh... I see what you are doing. you are swapping "christians" with "christianity". Typical tactic.

You do realise that christains belive that when things like the above happen, they condemn the FREE WILLED individuals for doing it, and don't think of them as "christians" any more. Most assume they are on the express train to hell for their actions.

Yet when Muslims kill "infidels" they are thought to be rewarded for killing...

Show me the link between the church and those attocities listed above.

Yep, not a dime's difference.

228

"I argue that there is, and ask the questions posted to refute your claim."

Fuck your questions. The evidence is clear. As I've already noted Christians were behind the largest genocides of the last century - the holocaust, Rwanda, the Congo. These are facts and your endless sputtering won't change them.

229


"Show me the link between the church and those attocities listed above"

You don't know the links? You are one ignorant puppy.

BBC: A Roman Catholic priest accused of taking part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide has gone on trial at the UN war crimes tribunal in Tanzania.

And just ask a Jew what he thinks of the role of the Vatican during WWII.

230

Yet you STILL can give a straight answer to those simple questions.

Christianity and Islam VERY different. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit the meme that you were indoctinated with.

You've typed a couple of words on a blog with absolutely no links to back up your claims that christainity backed and gave it's blessings to the atrocities you listed.

I can post lots of stuff with prominent Imams, Mufti's and Mullah's encouraging the followers of Islam to kill those that are not Muslims...

Why don't you post your videos of preachers in christain churches doing the same...telling treir congredgation that killing non-christians will get you on the fast track to paradise...

 

231
"Of which NONE of these were endorsed by the church.... "

Never said they were. Merely that they were COMMITTED by Chrisitans.

By the way your weasely claim that 'they weren't endorsed by the Church" applies equally to Islam you hypocrtical dunce.

"Christianity and Islam VERY different"

So were Jeffrey Dahlmer and Charles Manson.

232

"And just ask a Jew what he thinks of the role of the Vatican during WWII."

The Vatican was silent. And has asked for forgiveness for passed sins. I imagine they are not happy about it.

Who do you think a jew would be more comfortable locked in a room with:

A christian with a loaded gun or a Muslim with a dull, rusty knife?

"BBC: A Roman Catholic priest accused of taking part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide has gone on trial at the UN war crimes tribunal in Tanzania. "

1. Has he been convicted?

2. Has he kept his status as a priest?

3. just 1? you make it sound like there was a christian army decimating all of Rwanda...

 

233

"By the way your weasely claim that 'they weren't endorsed by the Church" applies equally to Islam you hypocrtical dunce."

Dude, what rock have you been hiding under?!?! Have you not seen the videos of Imams\Muftis\Mullahs encouraging violence against jews and christians?!?!

---

FYI, apparently the same medication that helps with ADD, ADHD, anxiety disorders, and depression also help with Tourette's.

You should ask your doctor next time you go if he thinks it will help.

Seriously. You show signs that it may help you.

Oh, just so we are clear...

My answers:

Q:  How many priests\rabbis have called for holy war against the Muslims in the last year?

A: None 

Q: How many priests\rabbis have said it's OK to beat your wife if she doesn't do what the man says.

A: None

Q:How many priests\rabbis say it's OK in the eyes of god if you kill your children because they fell in love with someone of a different faith?

A: None

Q:How many mosques have been targeted with explosive in the last year by christian terrorist cells?

A: None

Just in case we have some late comers to this thread. They may want to see your answers also.

234 Bman - You're wasting your time.  He's a True Believer.  I mean, he actually thinks that the Holocaust was some Vast Christian Conspiracy against the Joo instead of the batshit insane scheme to racially and culturally "purify" the Reichland.  It's a shame that those ethnic Poles, the Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, gay men, and political opponents got caught in the crossfire of the Nazi's Christian Crusade.

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The holocaust was the result of a deranged anti-Semite atheist. Just like you are.

Your atheist comrades in the USSR, China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Cuba etc. put millions of people into early graves dipshit.

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