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Joe Klein Claims He Didn't Say What He Said and/or Didn't Mean What He Meant

Predictable. Though hard to figure out what he's claiming. He repeats the assertion even while claiming he meant nothing of the sort.

Obviously, I didn't mean to imply second-class status for disabled people. On the contrary, the distance and perspective that comes with physical deficits often leads to enhanced insight and abilities. The greatest President of the past 150 140 years--(Thanks, commenter flownover!)-- sat in a wheelchair.

Ah, nothing like following up a slam on the disabled with a reverse-bigotry claim about them having been granted superpowers via their afflictions.

Classic overcompensation. Why, some of my best friends are Jews/blacks/gays/not really my friends but rather people I see in the commissary on occasion, acting all weird n' stuff with their bizarre cultural and/or lifestyle baggage.

So it is possible to write brilliant, nuanced commentaryon the war in Iraq, for examplewithout visiting there. But it sure does help to understand a complicated situation in an unfamiliar culture if you can see it for yourself. Indeed, I believe the leavening effects of direct experience are especially valuable for those who are blinkered by ideology and debilitated by extreme views.

And while Krauthammer's skills are impressive, his commentary has been dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong. Given his influence with the Bush Administration, his unflinching support for American unilateralism--his invention of the notion of a unipolar world--did extensive damage to our nation's security and reputation overseas, and caused the unnecessary loss of life.

Still, it seems clear that my remark could be construed by some as insensitiveand if I have caused any discomfort to any disabled person, I apologize sincerely. In the end, Krauthammer's deficit is not a matter of body, but of judgment.

Meanwhile, Joe Klelin's able-bodied, fully-ambulatory, and luxuriously-padded ass remains safely in his Manhattan condo. Where he gets his Iraq information from real first-hand sources -- Maureen Dowd, Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald.


Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM



Comments

1

Joe Klein bears an eerie resemblance to a ferret. With all due apologies to ferrets, of course.

Posted by: JWF at May 20, 2009 02:40 PM (1l37M)

2

What influence did Krauthammer have over the Bush administration? This is news to me. Or is it just the classic lib smear, blame Bush, attach to Bush, etc.

 

Posted by: booter at May 20, 2009 02:43 PM (eimUK)

3 This explains why there has been that campaign lately to cast social approbation on the use of the term 'retard'.

Posted by: torabora at May 20, 2009 02:44 PM (EPyqH)

4
>> his commentary has been dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong.


The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

What a fucking scumbag.

Posted by: dan-O at May 20, 2009 02:47 PM (teb/C)

5 So, wait, is everything ultimately about Bush?  He's like 6 Degrees of himself.

Posted by: ushie at May 20, 2009 02:47 PM (GkYyh)

6

So, if you haven't been to Iraq, you will remain "blinkered by ideology and debilitated by extreme views" and shouldn't opine on it.  You can run for President, but you can't write any op-ed pieces about it.

What's worse, the original insult or Klein's apology.  I'm not sure.

Posted by: SlaveDog at May 20, 2009 02:47 PM (LDTnn)

7 This from a guy whose credibility was located in then-President Clinton's colonoscopy.

Posted by: sulla at May 20, 2009 02:48 PM (sCuXD)

8 Leftards talking about judgement after showing incredibly poor judgement. These people have no sense of hypocrisy. Born without that gene, among others, that contribute to any form of functional thought. Klein would do well to put Zero's man meat back in his mouth. 

Posted by: maddogg at May 20, 2009 02:48 PM (OlN4e)

9

I googled dickhead, Joe Klein's name came up first.

Looks like he paid to be there!

Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at May 20, 2009 02:49 PM (2+9Yx)

10

If I ran the world, I'd impose the death penalty on anyone using the term "American Unilateralism."  That canard has been so fantastically and completely debunked so many times that the term's use is simply a demon-inspired lie.

Of course, if I ran the world and imposed my will in such a manner, then that really would be American Unilateralism, now wouldn't it? 

Hmmmm.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2009 02:50 PM (69J41)

11

The greatest President of the past 150 140 years--- sat in a wheelchair.

 

Hahahahahaha

 

I guess he is going to join Nancy in the hole digging contest now.

Posted by: Vic at May 20, 2009 02:51 PM (BYokb)

12 How do you combat the disinformation that is spewed by this army of idealogical thugs? The American people, well those who bother to pay attention anyway, are consistantly mis-informed and under-informed by these gatekeepers.

Posted by: pendejo grande at May 20, 2009 02:51 PM (PXZI9)

13 It is also interesting how he starts off his post like this:

>> The usual neoconservative malingerers have been hammering me...

You see, the issue here is not that he made a reprehensible comment.  It is that all those damned neocons are making a big stink out of it.  "It's not something I did, it's all those usual people that are out to get me!"  Freud would have a fucking field day with this schmuck.

Posted by: dan-O at May 20, 2009 02:51 PM (teb/C)

14 When did Ronald Reagan or Abe Lincoln sit in a wheelchair?

Posted by: Luca Brasi at May 20, 2009 02:54 PM (YmPwQ)

15 Meanwhile, Joe Klelin's able-bodied, fully-ambulatory, and luxuriously-padded ass remains safely in his Manhattan condo. Where he gets his Iraq information from real first-hand sources -- Maureen Dowd, Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald.

Don't forget about me! I was the number one source for liberal columnists for awhile.


Posted by: Scott T. Beuchump at May 20, 2009 02:56 PM (PLGGU)

16 In the end, Krauthammer's deficit is not a matter of body, but of judgment.

I've pondered this comment extensively over the past five or six seconds and gleaned some exceptionally deep insight, insight that can be summarized by an explosive BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! and a hearty "Pot, meet kettle!"  Projection's a fucking bitch, Klein, you inadequate bag of pus.

Posted by: Jazz at May 20, 2009 02:56 PM (hnq5i)

17 What is it with liberals and digging holes?

They just can't help themselves.

And did Klein imply that Krauthammer is directly responsible an untold number of 'unnecessary' deaths?

Un-freakin'-believable!

Posted by: Dysfunctional at May 20, 2009 02:57 PM (FTiH0)

18 his commentary has been dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong.

Now he's picking on Andi Sullivan? This guys hates everybody, handicap people, gays, gays with handicaps. Hasn't he heard how great diversity is?

Posted by: Rocks at May 20, 2009 02:57 PM (Q1lie)

19 Indeed, I believe the leavening effects of direct experience are especially valuable for those who are blinkered by ideology and debilitated by extreme views.

Uh.  Huh.  So it's not that what he said wasn't what he meant, he just meant it, you know, in the manner in which it was meant.  Got it.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 20, 2009 02:59 PM (SHHaV)

20

Besides the fact that FDR sucked, Lincoln, despite being one of the 5 damn presidents or whatever everyone knows about and "freeing the slaves", kinda sucked.

The man got the country into a civil war. They tried that shit on Andrew Jackson and I'm pretty sure he threatened to personally invade and conquer any state that seceeded all by himself, rather then send the army, and they shut right the hell up.

Best President of the last 150 years was Reagan. 2nd place goes to Calvin Coolidge.

Posted by: Entropy at May 20, 2009 03:00 PM (m6c4H)

21 one of the libtard commenters calls Krauthammer a chickenhawk. i'm gonna punch the next hippie I see.

Posted by: Nancy J.J. Pelosi at May 20, 2009 03:01 PM (k7SeR)

22
Hey Klein: Christopher Pike just told me to tell you to fuck off.

Posted by: The veiny headed aliens in Star Trek at May 20, 2009 03:02 PM (teb/C)

23

I love how the commie/libs define "Greatest Presidents".  Thus:  "Those whose fiscal policies turned garden variety, cyclical recessions into full blown depressions so deep that they had to back into a World War in order to pull ourselves into economic health."

Which is just the set-up for Obama being named the Second Greatest  President of the Last 140-150 Years.  He's already accomplished the full blown depression thing, and his lax attitude on Iran getting the bomb will probably result in Israel disappearing in a ball of flame, and our inevitably being drawn into the bloodbath that may follow in the middle east (quite certain the Israelis will blow the place to hell if their own destruction is assured.  Can't say I'd blame 'em, either).  Or perhaps Obama will get us into a war with China or Pakistan.  He's incompetent enough, just like Roosevelt.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2009 03:02 PM (69J41)

24 I resent the term neoconservative. I'm not a neoconservative. That term implies that I am predominantly liberal (left leaning). I am not. Neoconservatives are running the damn Republican party right now, and look what a cluster fuck that is.

Posted by: maddogg at May 20, 2009 03:03 PM (OlN4e)

25 I can't let it go - Krauthammer's got bad judgment?  Who just impugned the mental faculties of every wheelchair-bound American?  Who was it, Klein?  Say it again?  Who?  That's right, baby, YOU, you piece of shit.  You're not fit to clean Krauthammer's diaper.  Fucking "empathetic" fuckstick, you'd need a firehose enema to clean the shit outta your brains, but the shit's the only thing that keeps your IQ out of the negatives.

Posted by: Jazz at May 20, 2009 03:03 PM (hnq5i)

26

Every time I consider stopping my hatred of liberals, something like this happens and gets me hating them all over again.

Oh who am I kidding, I've never considered not hating liberals.

Posted by: T. AKA Ricky Raw at May 20, 2009 03:06 PM (w+Fw3)

27

Notice how when Klein apologized, he shifted the nature of his insult from the personal cut he took at Krauthammer to a disparaging remark about disabled people in general.

Call it nuance.

Posted by: CTN at May 20, 2009 03:07 PM (uBaXM)

28 There's something odd about that walleyed hunchback holding the rocket-launcher over there. I just can't quite put my finger on it.

Posted by: Monty at May 20, 2009 03:08 PM (/0a60)

29 Will you short sighted partisans get your heads out of your asses and understand the import of what Klein is saying. It is well past time that we do something about all these people with physical handicaps thinking they have a right to take part in national discourse and express their opinions.

I fully understand that it's probably too late to prevent this dangerous, unqualified expressing of opinion, but at the very least we should institute a rating system so we can alert the reader to whether the author of a piece has a physical handicap. That way the reader know to reduce the import they place on what they are reading.


Posted by: steve_in_hb at May 20, 2009 03:09 PM (/SI8o)

30 The Hammer would totally kick my ass, if he wasn't in that chair.

Posted by: Joke Lyin at May 20, 2009 03:10 PM (ZTpPi)

31 Time for us to pitch in and buy Krauthammer a bigger wheelchair.

something in a straightline six cylinder, I'm thinking.

Maybe if Iowahawk reads this moron-blog he could slap something together.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at May 20, 2009 03:11 PM (ruzrP)

32

Cavuto interviewing one of the commies from Il Douches administration just before Il Douche signs the bail out the deadbeats bill; he asked if they werent bailing out the deadbeats. Il Duches minion said it was going to enable them to go after the people who committed fraud. He then explained how this was the evil people who froced these loans on people who couldnt afford them.

 

I guess that means he is going after Bwaney Fwank, Piss Dodd, and all of F&F friends of Bill.

 

I swear how can these assholes tell such outrageous lies ad not be called on it.

Posted by: Vic at May 20, 2009 03:13 PM (BYokb)

33

Meanwhile, Joe Klelin's able-bodied, fully-ambulatory, and luxuriously-padded ass remains safely in his Manhattan condo. Where he gets his Iraq information from real first-hand sources -- Maureen Dowd, Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald.

These words should be on a  bronzed plaque somewhere, labelled:

"The Art of teh Smackdown"

Posted by: sherlock at May 20, 2009 03:15 PM (G9/8V)

34 Even though he is Jewish by birth, Klein is  a classic Jewish anti Semite in the traditions of Leon Trotsky, Matyas Rakosi, Rudolf Slansky and Lazar Kaganovich.

Posted by: Scipio at May 20, 2009 03:16 PM (DaNDN)

35 Hey Joe, how's that walk back working on closing Gitmo?  You haven't laid down your sword before the neocons, but you have already dulled your blade so as to render it as effective as your walk back on Krauthammer.

Joe Klein is delusional.  He should go back to writing for Jan "I don't know what the fuck I want or like" Wenner.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at May 20, 2009 03:17 PM (GtYrq)

36 The greatest President of the past 150 140 years--(Thanks, commenter flownover!)-- sat in a wheelchair.

Lincoln used a wheelchair? I did not know that.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 20, 2009 03:18 PM (ZJ/un)

37

Stand up there Krauthammer!

Give Kraut a hand folks!

Posted by: Joe biden at May 20, 2009 03:19 PM (ZTpPi)

38 In all fairness to Klein, put yourself in his position:

He's a leftist Democrat writing for a leftist pro-Democrat "mass media" magazine. He trashed the Clintons in "Primary Colors," and his peers hated him for that.

So, now, he is forced to overcompensate by being extremely left-wing in order to curry favor with his bosses and peers. If he deviates from the left-wing talking points even once, they will lose all trust in him as "one of them," and therefore possibly lose his job.



Posted by: RJ at May 20, 2009 03:19 PM (vQdwt)

39

The greatest President of the past 150 140 years--(Thanks, commenter flownover!)-- sat in a wheelchair.

 

Obama is in a wheelchair?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 20, 2009 03:20 PM (1Jaio)

40 heh @ 39

Posted by: The veiny headed aliens in Star Trek at May 20, 2009 03:22 PM (teb/C)

41 stupid sockpuppet

Posted by: dan-O at May 20, 2009 03:22 PM (teb/C)

42 Hey, if you're offended that I called that evil, NeoCon, warmongering cripple Krauthammer a "cripple", I'm sorry you got offended.

Is that good enough for you?

Can I go back to sucking Obama schwank now?

Posted by: Joe Klein at May 20, 2009 03:23 PM (WHoJw)

43

Translation: Krauthammer = war criminal.

Nuance. Genius.

I always knew that wormy little creep was a prick, this simply confirms it.

Posted by: TMF at May 20, 2009 03:27 PM (ZV8JG)

44

FDR - Everyone's favorite fascist.

But you know, that's being a little(!) hard on the poor ol' wheelchair-bound blinker-wearer.  Everybody was a fascist back in the early-mid 20th century.

Even the folks who streamed out of Chermany in droves before and during WW2, folks who hated and feared Hitler (no, not Bushitler), were fascists.  It was the thinking man's way of governing.

Created by a Frenchman, perfected by a German.  What in the world can you expect?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 20, 2009 03:28 PM (LkVus)

45 In other words, it's the same old Liberal Boner Waxing:  You don't think like me, therefore there's something wrong with you, so you need re-education until you see the light.

Fuck Klein and his ilk.

Posted by: nickless at May 20, 2009 03:28 PM (MMC8r)

46 #20:

I like you. :-]

Posted by: RJ at May 20, 2009 03:29 PM (vQdwt)

47

"...his unflinching support for American unilateralism--his invention of the notion of a unipolar world--did extensive damage to our nation's security and reputation overseas, and caused the unnecessary loss of life."

Is that defamation? If not it should be.

Posted by: Javems at May 20, 2009 03:30 PM (hq71Y)

48

Awesome job storming Joe's virtual castle, Morons!  Now finish him off!

Posted by: The Governator at May 20, 2009 03:31 PM (aC/SY)

49 #24:

You got that right!

Posted by: RJ at May 20, 2009 03:36 PM (vQdwt)

50 But it sure does help to understand a complicated situation in an unfamiliar culture if you can see it for yourself.

I hate to ask an obvious question, but had Joe Klein ever been to Iraq? I thought that DC politics was Klein's specialty.

Oh yeah. What right have I to think.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2009 03:36 PM (oT+Ek)

51

The original comment made me kind of shake my head over. Typical liberal condescension and hypocrisy.

But the apology is even worse and makes my blood boil.

Who says Roosevelt was the greatest president? Where is this written other than on liberal stone tablets?

I understand your reasoning perfectly, Mr. Klein. It's acceptable to opine if you are in a wheelchair. Geez, if you are politically correct enough you might even have some extra insight. But not if you are a conservative, because in that case you are by definition "blinkered by ideology" and "debilitated by extreme views". Did it ever occur to you, sir, that Mr. Krauthammer might think YOUR ideology is "blinkered" or "extreme". And that maybe, just maybe, HE could be correct. Your opinion is an opinion, just that and nothing more. Your liberalism does not make your subjective evaluation of a situation a fact.

And while Krauthammer's skills are impressive, his commentary has been dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong.

Again, your opinion, sir, not a fact. And not even an opinion that is supported by any citation or analysis of Krauthammer's writing. Simply a demagogic assertion. Other than the skill part, my opinion is that quote describes your work pretty accurately.

 ...and caused the unnecessary loss of life.

Quite a stretch. The man is actually blaming the death of people on Charles Krauthammer? I'm speechless. I'm sure, sir, you don't even know what AoS is, and could care even less. But why don't you sample some opinions that do matter?

Take a Krauthammer column about the war. You pick the column, Mr. Klein. Let Ace pick one of your screeds about the war. Give the two columns to 1,000 randomly selected members of the armed forces who have served or are serving in the ME to read. Let's see what they say. After all, they are the ones who were right there. And to quote you:   it sure does help to understand a complicated situation in an unfamiliar culture if you can see it for yourself. Indeed, I believe the leavening effects of direct experience are especially valuable for those who are blinkered by ideology and debilitated by extreme views

Or are our soldiers not nuanced enough for you?

These liberal spews, full of circular reasoning, projection, stereotyping, arrogance, unproven assertions, demagoguery, and hypocrisy (these include some of the worst crimes you can commit if you are conservative) help us see who the enemy is. For that I thank you, Mr. Klein.

Sorry for the long rant. Don't know why this got under my skin so much.

Posted by: RM at May 20, 2009 03:41 PM (GkYyh)

52 You know what, Joey? I've never been to Mars, but bet your ass I'd have some rather bellicose things to say if the fucking Martians started attacking. Of course, we could just show them one of your columns  and maybe they would leave us alone, thinking Earth devoid of intelligent life.

Posted by: UGAdawg at May 20, 2009 03:43 PM (IE6OO)

53 Obviously, I didn't mean to imply second-class status for disabled people.

That "obviously" boils my blood.  Whiny lefties love using that deflective construct. 

We need a constitutional amendment that says that the act of beating or killing anyone within thirty seconds of his uttering any of the following is not a crime:

1.  "Obviously, I meant/didn't mean. . . "

2.  "I'm sure we can all agree that. . . "

3.  "As you know. . . "

4.  "My heart was in the right place when I. . . "

Posted by: MikeO at May 20, 2009 03:49 PM (hz67i)

54

Indeed, I believe the leavening effects of direct experience are especially valuable for those who are blinkered by ideology and debilitated by extreme views.

In other words, if you agree with Klein, no need to travel anywhere or experience the "leavening effects of direct experience".  Congratulations, you already possess the "correct" viewpoint.

If, however, you have the temerity to disagree with Klein, and are thus "debilitated by extreme views" and "blinkered by ideology", well, you should do some traveling, Bub.  And if you come back with the same views, well, you're probably retarded or something. 

Posted by: Fred at May 20, 2009 03:52 PM (O7Waf)

55

MikeO - my other favorite phrase (and by "favorite phrase," I mean "phrase that causes blood to shoot from my eyes") used in the same context is Barry's "Now let's be clear..."

Posted by: reason at May 20, 2009 03:54 PM (q/kmn)

56 Klein has been getting all kinds of well-deserved hell over calling Krauthammer a myopic chickenhawk, but the real problem with that Politico piece was that they said Krauthammer was The One True Voice, to whom all conservatives pay fealty.

I mean, come on.  The man's good, but he's just one of many. 

Posted by: Loren Heal at May 20, 2009 03:56 PM (1/FwS)

57 @55 reason,

Thanks for that.  I've been worried that I'm turning into a hypersensitive little weenie.  "Honestly. . . " gets me going, too.

This is giving rise to some ideas regarding a reverse-Alinsky move.  What if people started filing hostile-workplace harassment complaints over these superfluous language tics?

Posted by: MikeO at May 20, 2009 03:58 PM (hz67i)

58

How about Obama's use of this doozie: "Now, as I've repeatedly said...."

Ugh.

Posted by: Fred at May 20, 2009 04:06 PM (QDTRf)

59 Klein is a tool.  Always has been a tool.  Always will be a tool.  A ferret-faced, bad bearded, bucktoothed insipid tool.  He's the personification of that Upper West Side lockstep lib groupthink, the distillation of Pauline Kael's "Nixon couldn't have won..I don't know anyone who voted for him".

This is the asshole who wrote "Primary Colors", and didn't have the balls to put his name on it. 

He has two problems with Krauthammer.  The first is that Dr. K. is his intellectual superior.  Even Klein won't deny that.  But what galls him is that his intellectual superior has the temerity to be a conservative.  How in hell can a guy that smart not toe the liberal line?  How can he be so deluded?

And Klein spits out the hateful (at least in lib circles) epithet "neo-con", which etymological roots, "con", meaning "conservative", and "neo", meaning JOOOO.
Which makes it all the more ironic coming from Klein.

Screw you, Klein.  My contempt for you is boundless.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 20, 2009 04:12 PM (fWF4Q)

60 @58 Fred

Good call on that one, too.  The funny thing about it is that the 21st Hijacker throws that crap out there to buy time for his sluggish, sub-par brain when he's selecting what Marxist verse to toss-out there next.  It reminds me of the terminator's menu of things to say from the original movie.

So, he's using these in place of the "ah, uhh, uh, ah" stuttering and stammering that he does when his TelePrompTer fails, but when he says them, they're usually demonstrably false.

He's such a liar that even his stammer syllables are lies.

Posted by: MikeO at May 20, 2009 04:18 PM (hz67i)

61 Run, a conservative writer is being bellicose!!!

Posted by: hudson duster at May 20, 2009 04:19 PM (A0+VT)

62 "And while Krauthammer's skills are impressive, his commentary has been dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong."

The only thing Krauthammer does for a living is "commentary." So if his "commentary has been dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong," then which skills, in Klein's mind, are impressive?

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not too impressed with people who I think are "dangerously bellicose, arrogant and wrong."

I guess what he meant was: "For a cripple to come this far is impressive, even if he doesn't know what he's talking about. And if he could just get up and out of that wheelchair (Stand up, Chuck!), maybe he could see things from my point of view (no offense, Chuck!)."

Posted by: notropis at May 20, 2009 04:21 PM (Q8NuD)

63

They say that the first rule of getting out of a hole is to stop digging.  While I'll grant you that stopping digging is important not being a narcissistic douchebag would actually give one the tools to put the shovel down.  Mr. Klein can't put that shovel down because to stop digging would mean that he was wrong to dig in the first place and he ain't having that.  So he'll keep diggin away until he can't hear the people screaming "asshole" at him anymore or until he hits China. 

Also, I like the way he makes it about CK, so if CK held the same views as Mr. Klein then CK's disability wouldn't be an impediment but since he doesn't it is?  If the problem is not with his body but his judgement then why even mention the body?  Also, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld and many right-wing (and otherwise0 journalists visited Iraq and have similar views to CK, what's their problem Klein? 

 

 

Posted by: Big E at May 20, 2009 04:26 PM (CBGRs)

64

Krauthammer can't get the nuance of the Iraq war unless he's with me seeing it through the booze soaked clarity from a barstool in a Green Zone bar

Posted by: Ernie Pyle Klein at May 20, 2009 04:28 PM (93F13)

65 Joe Klein..........real class act.

Posted by: GarandFan at May 20, 2009 04:36 PM (C3okI)

66

I swear how can these assholes tell such outrageous lies ad not be called on it.

Posted by: Vic at May 20, 2009 03:13 PM (BYokb)

Because the would-be "callers out" sat while Obimbo said "You voted for me" the Saturday before last and didn't question the accuracy or the implications of those four words.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 20, 2009 04:37 PM (Vlq0g)

67 In addition to the previous commentors who talked about phrases overused by libtards, how about the end of Joe's apology?  The tried and true libass mea culpa "If I have (fill in the blank) to (blank) I apologize--kind of like I'm sorry but--not really sincere because the apology is predicated on someone else overreacting not on true remorse for what was done.

Posted by: runningrn at May 20, 2009 04:47 PM (aC/SY)

68
A large enough plurality don't care about the truth, and since lying demagoguery is now an acceptable part of public discourse, facts are now meaningless.

I passed-out in front of the TV a couple of weeks ago, and woke in the middle of the night to that Kevin Trudeau cockholster selling some get-out-of-debt book.  He was sitting at the head of a hen-party table, railing about the interest costs of long-term loans, and equating the charging of interest to theft while the idiots around the table did their bobble-headed nodding and cluck-clucking in agreement.

It's finished.  The only way this gets better is if we start anew.

Most of the fistfights I've seen in my life were stupid and started over nothing, but there were a few I've seen that sprung out of situations that could not be resolved any other way.

Posted by: MikeO at May 20, 2009 04:50 PM (hz67i)

69 The tried and true libass mea culpa "If I have (fill in the blank) to (blank) I apologize--kind of like I'm sorry but--not really sincere because the apology is predicated on someone else overreacting not on true remorse for what was done.

Posted by: runningrn at May 20, 2009 04:47 PM (aC/SY)

Or even better:  I'm sorry if you have an insufficient appreciation of the nuance of what I'm saying that you failed to note the creatively artistic ways I used the words and fell back on taking their definitions literally.  Oh the humanity.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 20, 2009 04:55 PM (Vlq0g)

70

Joe Klein to the handicapped ---> "Keep you mouths shut because you lack perspective and could therefore get people killed. Leave it up to those with enhanced abilities like myself."

Keep digging Joe, let it all out. Tell us how you really feel. We need to expose who the real bigots are in this country.

 

Posted by: exceller at May 20, 2009 05:10 PM (jx2Td)

71 Jefferson Davis was in a wheelchair!!??

Posted by: Jubal Anderson Early at May 20, 2009 06:30 PM (k7Xlb)

72 If any disabled person was so stupid and mentally disturbed to take offense at what I said, then I'm sorry that they are so stupid.

Posted by: Joe Klein at May 20, 2009 06:51 PM (iafWn)

73 Krauthammer was The One True Voice, to whom all conservatives pay fealty.

Of all things that piss me off about the left, this is one of the most pissy.  They assume we get our marching orders from Limbaugh/Coulter/Krauthammer, because of course nobody can think on his own, oh no.  These trog conservatives would be so much more REASONABLE and NUANCED if they didn't have such hatey-hateful leaders!

Posted by: Filly at May 20, 2009 06:52 PM (gTylJ)

74

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