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| Democrats: CIA Briefers May Have Broken Law By Issuing "False Report"Huh? We have only Madame Secretary's claim that they didn't disclose that Zubaydah had been waterboarded. And no one, including the liberal media, believes it. So why are Democrats acting as if Pelosi's claims are true and threatening prosecutions? You know why: They want the CIA to shut up.Democrats on the House intelligence committee said Thursday that CIA officers broke the law in 2002 if they told Nancy Pelosi then that they had not yet engaged in waterboarding. "If they make a false report, absolutely it's illegal," said Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. "If they fail to make a report when they're obligated to that is also illegal — a violation of the National Security Act."Shut up and start lying or you will be prosecuted for lying. Thanks to AHFF Geoff. Vid: Lindsey Graham Says "If There Was a Crime, She Was Part of It." Update at post's end. Full Vid of Pelosi: Already linked by Slublog in DrewM.'s post below, but I'm highlighting it again, largely because I'm going to watch the whole thing soon and want the company. Apparently there's some good stuff at the end when her aide tries to escort her out before she does any further damage to herself, or to the English language. Also, groans from the rest of the press as one reporter attempts to save her by changing the topic to health care. Comments1
Or they are calling madam speaker's bluff.
Posted by: Sue at May 14, 2009 04:53 PM (Jol77) 2
I think it's an attempt to give her an out by changing the subject.
It won't work because she's too stupid to shut her mouth. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 14, 2009 04:54 PM (rfebR) 3
Game on, bitches.
Posted by: The Company at May 14, 2009 04:55 PM (QYuCD) 4
Do they really want to have this fight?
Maybe they need to talk to Bush about how this ends. Short version...not well. It's funny though how the Democrats loved the brave CIA for leaking and standing up to BushHitler but not so much now. My guess is while a lot of CIA leaders maybe liberals, they must have learned from the Church era. I can't imagine they are going to let the Democrats drag them down that hole ever again. Posted by: DrewM. at May 14, 2009 04:55 PM (PLGGU) 5
Come to papa, bitch.
Posted by: Vince Foster at May 14, 2009 04:56 PM (xWk3U) 6
You know, I'm just a moron, but I'm sure it's not a good idea to start threatening the CIA.
Posted by: shibumi at May 14, 2009 04:56 PM (OKZrE) 7
Wow, epic fail. The "torture" debate was supposed to be tearing Cheney a new one for daring to criticize The One Lightworker. Instead, it's tearing at the Dems and pitting them against the lifers at the CIA.
Brilliant. Rove, you magnificent bastard. Posted by: Techie at May 14, 2009 04:57 PM (QYuCD) Posted by: Douglas at May 14, 2009 04:57 PM (uU+Ss) 9
Yeah, I think this is bad. A lot of people think the CIA is gonna teach Pelosi a lesson. Teach her not to mess with the CIA. I doubt it. The CIA can hurt Pelosi and cause her problems. Like they did with Bush. But Bush never punched back. And the CIA thinks Pelosi is the same. Pelosi will burn to the ground the CIA and every intelligence agency we have to protect herself. She will go further than the CIA is willing to go. They will blink. Posted by: Ed at May 14, 2009 04:58 PM (Xw1N9) 10
It's funny though how the Democrats loved the brave CIA for leaking and standing up to BushHitler but not so much now.
Rockefeller did you teller? I think Fedora might be into his conflict. Posted by: Douglas at May 14, 2009 04:58 PM (uU+Ss) Posted by: Harry at May 14, 2009 04:59 PM (RxSlU) 12
Shadow dancing with the CIA is not a smooth move. She had better be glad these dudes are not the Mossad, or worse. Now those dudes seriously roll, and REALLY will not take excrement like this from some political airhead like Meme.
This does make Rove and Cheney look AWESOME!!!!!!!!! Lightworker- 0 Cheney, Rove and CIA- 3 Posted by: freeus at May 14, 2009 05:00 PM (zxRJP) 13
Awww, roadbumps on the route to the 1000 Year Majority.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. (Sorry, this is just what I needed to hear this week) Posted by: Techie at May 14, 2009 05:00 PM (QYuCD) 14
So they really do want more leaked documents.
Palosi has become the ultimate liability. Time for an unnamed source to destroy her completely. Posted by: A. Weasel at May 14, 2009 05:01 PM (bqcfE) 15
Ed, how exactly does Pelosi win this? What's she going to do defund the agaency? I'm pretty sure their rainy day fund(s) can cover any needs until significant "personal" scandals force her from office, and if the party of Obama as a whole goes to war with the intelligence community in the open, the whole rat's nest will burn.
Posted by: Methos at May 14, 2009 05:02 PM (IvOqJ) 16
Uh, I'm thinking that the CIA has files on anybody who might try to give them trouble, and be able to see that it gets out if they need it to.
Posted by: nickless at May 14, 2009 05:02 PM (MMC8r) 17
Pelosi will burn to the ground the CIA and every intelligence agency we have to protect herself. She will go further than the CIA is willing to go. They will blink. I'm not sure if I agree. They have different end games. She wants to keep her job. CIA agents want to stay alive. As in not be killed. Consequently, I would expect the CIA to play harder and dirtier than San Fran Nan. Posted by: shibumi at May 14, 2009 05:02 PM (OKZrE) 18
Let's ask the Soviet Union, previous administrations, and dead dictators everywhere how well taking on the CIA ends.
Posted by: Benson at May 14, 2009 05:03 PM (qzcNU) 19
No, it's not as if she's got shady business connections via her husband.
No way the CIA has dirt on her.................. Posted by: Techie at May 14, 2009 05:04 PM (QYuCD) 20
It's too bad we have no effective Republican spokesmen that could articulate the simple fact that this whole "we-said, she-said" is about the security of senior Democrats, not about the security of the nation, and that is exactly the priority system that Democrats have operated under for the last 20 years.
Posted by: sherlock at May 14, 2009 05:06 PM (FsbnY) 21
I hate razed earth politics.
I was told by the VP of North American Operations, I was just a line worker but the VP NAO had to be sent to lecture me, (I'm not kidding, it was a start up so he was very active, and wanted to "get a feel" for the new satelite(however you spell it.) "I understand you cause a lot of problems, young man" "you mean fix." "do you know who you are talking to?" "You?" areched eyebrows and ear wiggle and stuff. I didn't know he was the VP NAO, I was just doing my job. "Well, I've heard complaints about you, and if _I_ hear complaints. . . " "from who?" "compaints." "who?" "well, . . . Why am I answering your questions?" "because you are in my way." somewhere in there, I don't know when, it wasn't a poignant moment in itself, not like me cutting someone off, but I stood up several times and shoved this midget "don't you know who I am" M'Fer out of my way and yelled stuff like "RAISE THAT HOIST IF IT AINT BEING USED!" Or "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND! Clear that track NOW!" stuff like that. The VP NAO hated me, EFFING HATED ME, cuz I didn't give a damn who he was, I wanted to do my job. He later said, "do you drink?" after talking to some of the people I had been yelling at. "Yeahp, test me, I will have a bac, but not much of one, and truth is, I can do the job better drunk off my ass than . . . .well. . . .you." Oddly enough that moment of arrogance and petulance on my part saved my job. He liked balzy people, and he thought that was ballzy, unfortunately he didn't realize that I thought it made him look week. I quit a month later, I can't work for pussies. Posted by: Douglas at May 14, 2009 05:07 PM (uU+Ss) 22
HOW THE HELL did I do that?
I don't think I jumped tabs, sorry about that, might be an interesting story, but it's completely off topic. Posted by: Douglas at May 14, 2009 05:08 PM (uU+Ss) 23
Hmm, an alternate iteration of the 3 step program might look something like:
1. Pelosi declares war on CIA. 2. ????? 3. Pelosi swinging from a lamppost. A brutha can dream, right? Posted by: Dash Rendar at May 14, 2009 05:09 PM (/TEUM) 24
stand down on that stuff dasher.
Posted by: Douglas at May 14, 2009 05:12 PM (uU+Ss) 25
True that, Pelosi would burn the CIA to the ground. But, the CIA has a secret weapon. They have a brain while Pelosi is unable to actually convey or possess a rational thought.
Plus, the CIA will leak memos up to the point where they are individually mailing results of finger print analysis showing that Pelosi had touched memos condoning water boarding. Sun Tzu would probably point out that this whole battle misses the larger point that the definition of "torture" has already been changed into idiocially including anything Pelosi says it is. Posted by: joeindc44 at May 14, 2009 05:12 PM (QxSug) Posted by: Dick Cheney at May 14, 2009 05:12 PM (PLGGU) 27
"The act provides little in the way of recourse, but the committee is seriously looking at revising the law so that there are ramifications for failing to brief Congress on critical intelligence matters, aides said." Jesus H. Christ... just when you think that there can't possibly be a more odious level of hypocrisy than the present level of playing politics with our national security, right away some damn Democrat goes and proves you are hopelessly naieve. I hope there is a special place in Hell... Posted by: sherlock at May 14, 2009 05:14 PM (FsbnY) 28
"Palomino! Palomino!" Posted by: The Democratic Caucus of Loving Kindness at May 14, 2009 05:16 PM (pmKAK) 29
Look for some leaked documents regarding Adam Schiff soon.
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at May 14, 2009 05:16 PM (dCjum) 30
A hilarious tidbit at the end of the letter - Dem idiocy and facts juxtaposed:
The Democrats also defended Pelosi's decision not to raise objections to waterboarding in 2003, when she says she first learned of the practice secondhand from an aide who attended a briefing with Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), then the ranking Democrat on the intelligence committee. Harman wrote a letter of protest — a letter with which Pelosi has said she "concurred," although she is not mentioned in it. "She's away from Intel now, she's not focused on it, it's not her priority," Rep. C.A. Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said of Pelosi in 2003. "We have all these committees we go to, we get briefed on hundreds and hundreds of things. The specialist, though, was the chairman, or the ranking at the time, Jane Harman. And she did what she had to do, and we couldn't get a response back." In fact, Harman did receive a response from CIA General Counsel Scott W. Muller; it just wasn’t the one she wanted. In a February 2003 letter, Miller wrote: "As we informed both you and the leadership of the intelligence committees last September, a number of executive branch lawyers including lawyers from the Department of Justice participated in the determination that, in the appropriate circumstances, use of these techniques is fully consistent with U.S. law." Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 14, 2009 05:16 PM (5r0Tz) 31
If of the mind that what Pelosi et al. did was nigh treasonous, although i'll forestall saying further that repercussions for individuals who commit treason deserve, um, you know. For teh decorum.
Posted by: Dash Rendar at May 14, 2009 05:17 PM (/TEUM) 32
And yet, nobody in the MSM can see clear to wonder how it is it took Pelosi and her minions nearly a month to come-up with this ludicrous and completely contradicted by earlier statements cover story.
They smell blood in the water but are too stupid to open their mouths for the fresh botox-chum. Posted by: DocJ at May 14, 2009 05:17 PM (2HZhO) 33
I was wondering, since January, when some sort of event would arise that would give Barry the Blind Unicorn God an opportunity to lay out who is boss. And I mean dictator, full-on Big Daddy In Chief. Barry could clamp down hard on CIA, but he isn't... I think he wants Pelosi to get it. Barry is in charge, not some mummified fag hag from San Francisco, who has doubtless had some fantasies about being President if Barry 'n' Joe get hit by some suitcase bomb, or suchlike. Remember she took the lead on the porkulus in the House, and Barry let her do the heavy lifting. He preferred to delegate the socialist details to the servant bitch Pelosi. Now he has to remind her that she's just a draft horse for the Messianic agenda, and nothing more.
Posted by: George Orwell at May 14, 2009 05:18 PM (+PTvX) Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at May 14, 2009 05:18 PM (5r0Tz) 35
CIA , show us what you do so well.
Posted by: I sea kittens at May 14, 2009 05:19 PM (bAL0J) 36
Methos at May 14, 2009 05:02 PM (IvOqJ) shibumi at May 14, 2009 05:02 PM (OKZrE) Well, I'm speaking not as a Washington insider, just some dude. "Ed, how exactly does Pelosi win this?" I don't think she necessarily will win this round per say. The CIA has made her look foolish. That probably won't go away. But, what I think she will do is get revenge. Bloody revenge. I don't know how the committe / investigation nuts and bolts work, but I wouldn't put it past her to do another "Church" style investigation. And any chance she gets, she'll probably try to stick a knife in the agency. I don't know how, maybe start questioning what they do with Black?Unaccountable?Off-theBooks? funding. Hell, threats of prosecutions are already going arround over the claim that the CIA is lying about what it leaked. Maybe they will try to get a law passed that if something goes wrong with a CIA operation and somehow they weren't briefed in just the right way, the briefer and / or Director would be civilly liable. You asked a reasonable question: How would Pelosi win this? I don't know. I'm mostly just saying that I think she's powerful and ruthless and wouldn't hesitate to retailiate, national security be damned. Plus, her district is San Francisco, not Salt Lake City. Demolishing the CIA would be seen as A-OK, not a career killer. "CIA agents want to stay alive. As in not be killed." Some CIA agents want to stay alive. The very, very small number of them who are actually in the field in harms way. The Operators in the field. The vast majority of CIA employees aren't in the field. They are analyists, or support types, or middle to upper level management. The vast majority of the CIA, in my not so impressive judgement, care more about keeping their careers on track. So, if being bold means having to worry about endless hassles from the media and congress, I suspect most will start being more concerned about covering their asses.
Keep in mind, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see the CIA smack Pelosi arround like a pinata over this issue until she breaks apart. But my fear is that it won't end so well. Posted by: Ed at May 14, 2009 05:21 PM (Xw1N9) 37
36 Maybe they will try to get a law passed that if something goes wrong with a CIA operation and somehow they weren't briefed in just the right way, the briefer and / or Director would be civilly liable. No one would work for CIA under those conditions . Posted by: I sea kittens at May 14, 2009 05:24 PM (bAL0J) 38
The majority of 'classified' information shouldn't be classified in the first place. Insofar as (arguably legal) ongoing operations are programs are concerned, I think that those who leak should be thrown in jail. But, burning self-serving politicians for lies? Burn, baby burn. The CIA (and the rest of the IC) is one institution that the Democrats should be afraid of setting on themselves. Posted by: MlR at May 14, 2009 05:26 PM (0vdx6) 39
As a follow up to my #36 comment, the ins and outs of how congress works isn't my area of knowledge. Jack M has some sort of knowledge 'bout this. If he says I'm way off base here, awesome. Glad to be proven wrong. Or if anyone else here knows from first hand experience how this congress stuff works. Me? I just mostly surf for free porn. I'm good at it. Want some cool porn links? I'm your guy. Posted by: Ed at May 14, 2009 05:26 PM (Xw1N9) 40
Beam me up Scotty, I can't stand the smell any longer.
Posted by: sherlock at May 14, 2009 05:27 PM (FsbnY) 41
O.T. Why are we paying for 700,000 immigrants from Gaza?
Why are they coming here, and not to an Arab country? Where were the blogs, michelle, etc. organizing us serfs to stop this madness. Posted by: free at May 14, 2009 05:28 PM (cFwGO) 42
Of course, something tells me we're about to find out again, suddenly, that leaks that harm Democrats are different from those that harm Republicans, or the country specifically. Posted by: MlR at May 14, 2009 05:28 PM (0vdx6) 43
No one would work for CIA under those conditions .
Posted by: I sea kittens at May 14, 2009 05:24 PM (bAL0J) If I may be allowed to channel Glen Reynolds, perhaps that's not a bug, but a feature. . . . Damn it. It always reads smarter when he does that schtick. Posted by: Ed at May 14, 2009 05:29 PM (Xw1N9) 44
Ed ,
... but I wouldn't put it past her to do another "Church" style investigation. Troof Commission ? She mentioned it a few times during her presser . Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 14, 2009 05:29 PM (d0YiG) 45
The headline at HuffPo right now:
Bob Graham: CIA Gave Me False Information The Dems are doubling down? Posted by: stace at May 14, 2009 05:30 PM (g/wgk) Posted by: Z Ryan at May 14, 2009 05:30 PM (PDeVA) 47
The problem for ass-licking acolytes like y'all is to somehow demonstrate that Cheney/Bush did nothing else but lie. Everybody knows this. Except ass-licking acolytes.
Posted by: st. anthony at May 14, 2009 05:32 PM (niioc) 48
Democrats on the House intelligence committee said Thursday that CIA officers broke the law in 2002 if they told Nancy Pelosi then that they had not yet engaged in waterboarding.
What the fuck? Is that how the Dems cover their asses when they get caught in a big fat fucking lie? Note to Nancy: Plausable denial is not an option. You've been outed, and you'll get your ass dragged through broken glass on this one. You'll wish to hell you'd have been waterboarded instead. Posted by: SFC MAC at May 14, 2009 05:34 PM (dX8Ae) 49
st. anthony, Whereas ass-pounding assholes like you can never point to where they actually lied. ESAD. Posted by: Noah Bawdy at May 14, 2009 05:35 PM (dCjum) 50
Well, if Pelosi does manage to burn the CIA to the ground, it's the CIA's fault for being so hard on Bush. Bush, never fought back, maybe, because he felt it's more important not to smack down the CIA in the middle of the war. Who knows. But if Pelosi wins, then we are all in more danger. But that sentence is true in any context.
Posted by: joeindc44 at May 14, 2009 05:35 PM (QxSug) 51
Sun Tzu may also point out that now is the time to point out, based on this idiotic video, that she is simply politicizing national security to score political points. And that waterboarding still ain't torture.
Posted by: joeindc44 at May 14, 2009 05:38 PM (QxSug) 52
Hrm. So Nancy's not complete hung out to dry. Innnterrresting... Let's hope the CIA has massive balls ego.. Posted by: Entropy at May 14, 2009 05:39 PM (cok/k) 53
Oooo, erg got a proxy, but kept his latest nom de imbecile.
Posted by: nickless at May 14, 2009 05:39 PM (MMC8r) 54
The Dems are doubling down? The dems always double down. Like I called it when this first broke: San Fran Nan will make Stonewall Jackson look downright French. Posted by: Entropy at May 14, 2009 05:42 PM (cok/k) 55
Yes, go for it Dems. Because threatening war on the intelligence community is going to make the country that much safer...........
Posted by: Techie at May 14, 2009 05:42 PM (QYuCD) 56
Right now, it seems like there are lots of things to talk about from a government standpoint- White House controlling Chrysler's advertising, Obama taking over GM, swine flu is still out there, Pakistan meltdown, where's Osama, I could go on. Isn't it possible that if Madame Speaker just SHUT UP about this that it would just go away?
But she can't do that, can she? I hope the CIA destroys her. Posted by: shibumi at May 14, 2009 05:44 PM (OKZrE) 57
We need to ask ourselves why Obama released the memo's to begin with, the answer is misdirection see Obama and his people needed a distraction from what they are doing domestically ie... healthcare (we have heard nothing about the fact it is being planned in secret and the public testimony from those doing the planning indicate they are going to ration and not provide health care to the old and infirm as I recall hospice was mentioned), TARP funds (what happened to the ongoing investigations of fraud?), spendulus bill (accusations of the money going to the wrong places), budget cuts (2/3rds of the budget cuts Obama was touting were in defense what effect is that having?), Taxes (95% tax cut is a bald faced lie), Transparancy (not happening) and on and on yet what is wall to wall in the news? Torture that was not torture it is all slieght of hand smoke and mirrors.
Posted by: Oldcrow at May 14, 2009 05:47 PM (ZLiWZ) 58
st. anthony: The problem for ass-licking acolytes like y'all is to somehow
demonstrate that Cheney/Bush did nothing else but lie.
Get your parties straight, Einstein. YOUR camp needs to show that Bush/Cheney did nothing else but lie. If you're trying to insult conservatives, your comment should read, "The problem for ass-licking acolytes like y'all is to somehow demonstrate that Cheney/Bush did anything else but lie." See how that works - the remade comment presumes that the only thing Bush/Cheney did was lie, whereas your attempt at derision MADE NO FUCKING SENSE. Fucking coprophage. Posted by: Jazz at May 14, 2009 05:47 PM (hnq5i) 59
AP and or Reuters is already calling this a distraction for Barry. You just knew that Pravda would be spinning this as best they could.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2009 05:48 PM (ZqjKL) 60
Except ass-licking acolytes.
Posted by: st. anthony at May 14, 2009 05:32 PM (niioc) Ass-licking. You say that like its a bad thing. Why are you such a prude? Even Carrie Prejean seems more sexually liberated than you. For example, Carrie did let a nipple fly. Which was quite spectacular. And speaking of assess, did you see that shot of Carrie in the bikini bottom? That was positively ass-tacular.
But anyway, enough of her. Back to you. You seem quite repressed. You probably just want people to have sex for procreation only, and ban porn. You sir, are are also probably homophobic. Posted by: Ed at May 14, 2009 05:49 PM (Xw1N9) 61
I wish the CIA would double down with some damaging Obama leaks. There's got to be plenty. Just enough to get the Dims to totally back away and stop trying to destroy national security. Posted by: rinseandspit at May 14, 2009 05:49 PM (ao5cQ) 62
Has anyone bothered to tell them that the Nanster's press conference nuclear fail is available for viewing and that really, the Speaker is doing what amounts to a yoeman's job of recreating Meteor Crater in Washington. She really doesn't need any help. Really. Really, really. It's a black hole and they are approaching the event horizon.
My God! Won't someone save the Democrats?! Posted by: Kae Gregory at May 14, 2009 05:49 PM (E+9ug) 63
Getting popcorn ready...
Posted by: John F Not Kerry at May 14, 2009 05:50 PM (HF2US) 64
The dems always double down. Like I called it when this first broke:
San Fran Nan will make Stonewall Jackson look downright French.
I think she reminds me more of Custer than Stonewall Jackson. Charge! Nancy! Posted by: Tim B. at May 14, 2009 05:50 PM (WLldW) 65
The horrible part of watching this idiot try to fumble through the questions is realizing that if the press had asked questions, say, half as probing to Barry during the two year campaign, he would have been reduced to a glop of quivering crap and been sent packing. ALL Libs are like Nancy. You just have to ask a few questions...
Posted by: JS at May 14, 2009 05:50 PM (QxF3p) 66
Does anyone agree that this is primarily a battle for primacy between Barry Rainbowshanks and Nancy Lugosi? Barry owns the CIA now, and Panetta probably does not like the prospect of being Nancy's lapdog either. Barry was not planning this fight, but he has to do one of two things... let his CIA get hung by the lampposts, or remind Nancy that she is a mere underling to the Messiah. If Barry caves on CIA, how would that help him? OTOH, if Barry tells Panetta and the CIA to start some internal purge, how does that help him? Or does Barry tell CIA to crush Pelosi? Barry still remains in control, no matter what. But I wonder what the calculus is on the interior of these scheming, Borgia minds that own our gubmint?
It's like trying to divine the hierarchy of a pack of hyenas. Posted by: George Orwell at May 14, 2009 05:51 PM (+PTvX) 67
I hate to admit it, but Adam Schiff is my Congress critter. I'd like to say that he's a nice guy and I wouldn't mind having a beer with him, but I have to acknowledge that politically--he's a schmuck. He may be pushing the line that the evil McChimpee Halliburton Cheney Hitler cabal got the CIA to lie to La Pelosi in September 2002. By not telling her that waterboarding had already happened they were breaking the law--and now La Pelosi is simply the innocent victim of a crime committed by the CIA! On the other hand, if the CIA now says that they did tell her back then when they actually hadn't, now they're committing another crime, all to victimize La Pelosi.
Schiff is a good little Democrat boy and he'll kneel at La Pelosi's knee tonight and she'll give him warm milk and cookies. Posted by: Pelosi's Inner Bikini Girl Gone Wild at May 14, 2009 05:52 PM (UHTK+) 68
Good to know the adults are back in charge, eh?
Posted by: DocJ at May 14, 2009 05:54 PM (2HZhO) Posted by: ginaswo/mim at May 14, 2009 05:55 PM (Zs7Sm) 70
It's all quite simple: CIA leaks that damage Republicans: Leaked by heroic whistleblowers speaking Truth to Power. CIA leaks that damage Democrats: Leaked by corrupt, lying criminals. Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 14, 2009 06:06 PM (plsiE) 71
The more I read these developments the more I'm convinced this kerfuffle isn't about waterboarding at all, but about who has the bigger sack... the Dummycrat leadership in Congress, or Barry Hussein O'Guiltwhite. It's like some weird mating dance between exotic overbred birds of paradise. Dummycrats on the intel committee are calling the CIA, now Barry's CIA, lawbreakers? Because they didn't tell Lugosi about waterboarding... when it is quite clear they did? Is this not a lot of poker bluff? There are so many holes in Nancy's story that you could strain mulligan stew through it and leave not a drop behind. None of this affects Repugs much, since they are powerless anyhow. But internecine Dummycrat warfare raises eyebrows. One hopes they slit each others' throats in the passion of vainglory.
Posted by: George Orwell at May 14, 2009 06:06 PM (+PTvX) 72
vid of Cantor and Hoyer on the floor, Hoyer lets Nancy twist in the wind, he backs the CIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7SOTT0bJRM Posted by: ginaswo/mim at May 14, 2009 06:06 PM (Zs7Sm) 73
Hmm, issuing a false report...Joe Wilson, anybody?
Posted by: joeindc44 at May 14, 2009 06:07 PM (QxSug) 74
I thought Adam Schiff was Jack McCoy's boss on Law and Order.
Posted by: elliot m at May 14, 2009 06:09 PM (13Ugm) 75
the headline on yahoo says: Pelosi says Bush team misled her on waterboarding if the bitch would have blamed it on Pres. Bush in the first place nobody would have questioned the ole fuckin hag Posted by: ugly kid joe at May 14, 2009 06:10 PM (QOu25) 76
Speaking of Law and Order, this would make a great episode...just need to write in a dead body into the plot!
Posted by: IC at May 14, 2009 06:11 PM (jZNCU) 77
hillbuzz is speculating that the CIA is maneuvering to oust Pelosi & replace her with the slightly less insane Steny Hoyer as Speaker:
Posted by: adagioforstrings at May 14, 2009 06:12 PM (Ka2cY) 78
Wait for it... Michael Sheehy, the aide to Pelosi who attended the meetings, has never said a word. Any minute now, he will proclaim to the world that he neglected to tell her about the water boarding. Or he will lie his ass off and say they never told him about them. I can't believe the CIA/Chaney memos haven't been leaked yet.
Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 14, 2009 06:13 PM (QMGr1) 79
Go ahead you dumb assess, prosecute the CIA . . . then get ready for the full impact of disclosure and the trial.
Posted by: rplat at May 14, 2009 06:13 PM (G1ArL) 80
Bring it on, Bitch! I don't play cards, but I'd love to play poker with Nanny McBotox. Her biggest tell is when she starts flapping her arms trying to defend her blatant lies. And hey, if the CIA lied to Congress, who's to say they didn't lie to President Bush? You can't have it both ways! This is going to be fun. Also, did you notice when she said that the Democrats would have a healthcare bill on the table by the end of July? Gee, what's America doing in July? Yup, we are all going to be on vacation when the big nationalized healthcare crap sandwhich gets shoved down our throats.
Posted by: runningrn at May 14, 2009 06:17 PM (aC/SY) 81
Oops forgot one and it is the 800 pound gorilla, cap and tax.
Posted by: Oldcrow at May 14, 2009 06:17 PM (ZLiWZ) 82
Oh yeah, and Rush was right this a.m. when he said that Dick Cheney gets results!
Posted by: runningrn at May 14, 2009 06:24 PM (aC/SY) 83
Remember when donks thought the CIA was full of honorable people like 00 Soccer Mom? Now they think it's a cabal of lying scumbags.
It's almost as if the donks change their story based on politics. Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2009 06:25 PM (VW9/y) 84
If the Republicans take back the White House in 2012 the new president should appoint Cheney to head the CIA. The lefty heads would explode from coast to coast.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2009 06:27 PM (ZqjKL) 85
34 Wow. Wolf and MSNBC are pushing the "CIA LIED TO CONGRESS" as if its truth. But of course. That was the reason for Shiff's statement, to give the MSM their talking points. Posted by: Javems at May 14, 2009 06:30 PM (/IQA9) 86
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