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Italian Cruise Ship Attacked by Pirates, Fights them Off

By returning gunfire.

Six men in a small, white Zodiac-type boat approached the Msc Melody at about 1730 GMT Saturday and opened fire with automatic weapons, Msc Cruises director Domenico Pellegrino said. They retreated after the security officers returned fire and sprayed them with water hoses. The ship continued its journey with its windows darkened.

Pistols for "emergencies". Who'da thunk?

How ya like them apples?

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 12:34 PM



Comments

1 Pirates don't like apples so much.

Posted by: harrison at April 26, 2009 12:38 PM (Gv4O0)

2 The private security company on this ship was Israeli.

Posted by: Tami (no relation to the vaccine) at April 26, 2009 12:38 PM (VuLos)

3 P.S. It's time to start wholesale killin' of these P.O.S.

Posted by: harrison at April 26, 2009 12:39 PM (Gv4O0)

4 I like how the pirates are getting more aggressive, yet failing more and more. Funny stuff. Three shots, three kills. That's the way for hostis humani generis.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at April 26, 2009 12:43 PM (OkrJ4)

5

They were supposed to capitulate and pay ransom. Now the pirates will be mad.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2009 12:43 PM (f6os6)

6

News Alert

Janet Butt Ugly has declared a Health Emergency.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2009 12:44 PM (f6os6)

7 Dr. Death says, "Bullets are bad for pirates' health."

Posted by: mossback at April 26, 2009 12:45 PM (in8Vs)

8

See? When you show greater strength than aggressors, they suddenly aren't quite so aggressive, now are they?

Turn a few of those pirates into shark shit and the problem of piracy will go away.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2009 12:45 PM (ZGhSv)

9 A cruise ship should have cruise missiles when in those waters.

Posted by: Greg Toombs at April 26, 2009 12:48 PM (m4KzJ)

10 We need to find a modern-day Pappy Boyington. You know, have him recruit some volatile and 'highly experienced' inner-city criminals and have them provide
some "security." Pay them by the number of carcases.

They presumably would have the firearms skills, and I don't think they would be afraid of the International Criminal Court.


Posted by: Doc Rochester at April 26, 2009 12:48 PM (aYL9O)

11 It was Israeli security.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 26, 2009 12:53 PM (5r0Tz)

12 What we "need" to do is turn the Somalia Beach into rubble with nothing living there.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2009 12:54 PM (f6os6)

13 Sure would be fun to watch some pirates mistakenly attack a US military supply ship.  You know, one with a few of those CIWS units, which I believe would be better named "Chum-masters".

Posted by: sherlock at April 26, 2009 12:55 PM (L4jPh)

14 10 -- I think you meant Claire Chennault.

12 -- Vic, that pretty much describes it as is.


Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 26, 2009 12:56 PM (CqxjU)

15 Cargo lines don't really care if some poor Philipino or Indonesian crew spend a few months as hostages - just the cost of doing bidness.  If a cruise line loses a ship to pirates, their reputation is trashed and they are done.  Also, I cruise ship might have a crew of over a thousand - adding an 8 man security squad is a rounding error (anyway, you can also use them as bouncers in the on-board nightclubs).  A cargo ship might have a crew of 30 - adding that sqquad would be a 25% increase.

Posted by: Holdfast at April 26, 2009 12:56 PM (Gzb30)

16 Oh, the humanity! We should have given them lunchables!

Posted by: honest cloud at April 26, 2009 12:57 PM (OkrJ4)

17 Show them you mean business, they think twice.

Why is this difficult to understand (for Obama)?

Posted by: mare at April 26, 2009 12:57 PM (X1fsj)

18

Pretty good.  But next time aim for the head and/or center mass.  And instead of spraying water on them, douse them with the hot oil from the deep fryers. 

And in non-related news, this is some scary stuff... we have officially reached worship levels for some     http://tinyurl.com/cpgctd

Posted by: yinzer at April 26, 2009 12:58 PM (pO6hk)

19 One Barrett M107 50 cal on each ship, with two or three crewmen trained to fire it. No pirate boat would get within a half mile. Problem solved forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWJp14tkBlU

Posted by: Bugler at April 26, 2009 12:58 PM (YCVBL)

20 Damn I would have enjoyed doing that!  With my 1954 Soviet SKS and 30 round mags I'd have surprised them!  That sucker may not be as accurate as my hunting rifles,  but it'll shoot a lot of bullets fast!  And that 7.62X39 packs a wallop.  Their AKs are a lot better, but this'll give 'em something to think about! 

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:02 PM (8Fc21)

21 @8 BackwardsBoy

See? When you show greater strength than aggressors, they suddenly aren't quite so aggressive, now are they?

It's amazing that our culture has sunk so far that something so obvious to anyone of average intelligence has to be stated.  Common sense is just not that common.

The vast prosperity of the modern age has left us with way too much time on our hands, and the irony-laden popular entertainment that fills our idle hours has created a majority of idiots who don't understand that irony is irony because it doesn't normally happen.

Nobody tells the stories of the majority who break under torture.  Where is the entertainment value there?  Instead we know of the the men who have the strength and courage to resist, and the idiots extend that to mean that "torture steels the resolve of the tortured."

Nobody tells the stories of the vast collaboration through fear throughout Nazi-occupied Europe or Japanese-occupied Asia.  Instead, we hear of tiny resistance movements full of brave men and women.  But the idiots just know that, "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

Oderint dum metuant.  They aren't going to not hate us.  Teach them to fear.

Posted by: MikeO at April 26, 2009 01:04 PM (hz67i)

22 Spending weeks at a time on a cruise ship, shooting pirates on work time, checking out honies and gorging on good food on off time.  Somebody has a dream job.  I'm jealous.

Posted by: yinzer at April 26, 2009 01:05 PM (pO6hk)

23

19 One Barrett M107 50 cal on each ship, with two or three crewmen trained to fire it. No pirate boat would get within a half mile. Problem solved forever.

Great idea, and it wouldn't (I presume) require any mount that would make the passengers nervous, or perhaps reassured.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:08 PM (8Fc21)

24 Bomb their villages and mine their harbors.  I don't like collateral damage, but this is the surest way to end this.  Too bad it will never be done.  We have become a nation of women.

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 26, 2009 01:10 PM (n1yDn)

25

22 Spending weeks at a time on a cruise ship, shooting pirates on work time, checking out honies and gorging on good food on off time.  Somebody has a dream job.  I'm jealous.

Yeah!

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:10 PM (8Fc21)

26 MikeO

Common knowledge is just so bourgeois don't you know?

You are right. 100%

We have lost much of our cultural wisdom over the last fifty years. Up is down and left is right.

I'm not saying we haven't progressed in many important ways, we have. But people now feel that even those timeless, good things in no need of alteration must be thrown aside. Why? Simply because they are old....it's the end of history, they say.

This ignorance and willfulness is, of course, a temporary luxury, and like all things it will pass away.

Posted by: honest cloud at April 26, 2009 01:12 PM (OkrJ4)

27
Hey, Doc!

Thanks much, but I think your sock puppet bit you in the nether regions.

Posted by: MikeO at April 26, 2009 01:14 PM (hz67i)

28 But if the pirates had been able to get their hands on those Italians' guns, they'd have been able to do some real damage!

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at April 26, 2009 01:17 PM (SWyxd)

29 Wow!  Someone SHOT BACK at the pirates......and they left.  WHO WOULD EVER THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN?  500 miles off the coast?  I thought those 'pirates' were actually Somali 'Coast Guard' according to that eminent scholar and maritime expect Al Sharpton. 

Posted by: GarandFan at April 26, 2009 01:21 PM (C3okI)

30

It's amazing that our culture has sunk so far that something so obvious to anyone of average intelligence has to be stated.  Common sense is just not that common.

Mikeo - This is a very interesting but big subject, but of course you are right.  We are suffering from the effects of decades of Soviet Communist propoganda and demoralization.  It has changed the way many of us think.  Liberal thinking patterns are very rigid (and very gutless) and seek to appease and apologize because they lack faith and confidence in any sort of rational, principled way.  Since they don't have faith in our country, our system and our history, the lack any moral compass, and don't believe anything is worth dying for.  They are capable of the most tortured rationalizations and self deception.  They believe they are so intellectually superior they don't need received knowledge, everyone should question everything.  There are no absoloutes, everything is morrallly relative, etc. ad nausem.

Liberalism is a mental disorder, really.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:22 PM (8Fc21)

31 @28 Janet Napalitano

But if the pirates had been able to get their hands on those Italians' guns, they'd have been able to do some real damage!

Yeah.  And we'd be able to keep Italian guns out of the hands of Italians (or Israeli security companies for that matter) if we'd just close that gunshow loophole.

BATFE says that 90% of these Italian guns used by Italians come from the US.

Posted by: Eric Holder (pardon you?) at April 26, 2009 01:29 PM (hz67i)

32

This ignorance and willfulness is, of course, a temporary luxury, and like all things it will pass away.

honest cloud - I'd love to believe that but I think it is just as likely that it will get much worse, European style.  As Camille Paglia once wrote about a French Liberal:  The Great Liberal French Fog Machine insists on taking a suicidal road because it does not know any better.  We have been there, to our own heart of darkness and found it totally bankrupt and false.  Somehow we have forgotten all that and will have to relearn it.  But this is a hellova time to be learning these lessons the hard way all over again.  And it'll take a long time, I am afraid.  They have too much power right now and they intend to use it.

LIBERALS MUST BE DEFEATED

SEE YOU AT THE TEA PARTY!

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:31 PM (8Fc21)

33 You're only breeding more pirates, wingnuts!

Posted by: Frito/Erg/HonestClod at April 26, 2009 01:31 PM (MMC8r)

34

What were those boats called in WWII that looked like non-combatants but then they would fold back the superstructure and it suddenly became a man o war?

 

We need a few of them out there.

Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at April 26, 2009 01:33 PM (8D00g)

35

I was on a Norwegian Cruise Line cruise around South America this past January, and I noticed that, oddly, all of the security on board were Nepalese.

"Not exactly a sea-faring peoples," I thought.until I remembered,  Gurkhas!  

I bet they might enjoy a chance to shoot at some Somali pirates.

Posted by: DelD at April 26, 2009 01:33 PM (VsTTI)

36

They aren't going to not hate us.  Teach them to fear.

MikeO - It is so hard to understand why they can't see this, but at the core I think they are gutless cowards, because they have no faith in anything but themselves and Liberalism.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:34 PM (8Fc21)

37 33 You're only breeding more pirates, wingnuts!

Posted by: Frito/Erg/HonestClod at April 26, 2009 01:31 PM (MMC8r)

How so, Frito?

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:36 PM (8Fc21)

38 How so, Frito?

Don't ask me, I'm just a sockpuppet!

Posted by: Frito/Erg/HonestClod at April 26, 2009 01:38 PM (MMC8r)

39 Apparently.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:39 PM (8Fc21)

40 I'd love to engage but I gotta go walk my Little Lesbian Girlfriend's dog.  Hasta Luego Frito.  Later.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 01:41 PM (8Fc21)

41 @30 7HEAVENS

Many otherwise reasonable people I know treat Gramsci or Alinsky as though it would take a conspiracy-theorist kook to expect their grand plans to make any headway against our freedom-based society.

These plans don't need to lead people anywhere--they just need to thwart passing the lessons of history to next generations.  Most punks running-around in their CheErnesto/Mao/Hammer & Sickle t-shirts haven't the first clue about the communism's bodycount in the 20th century.  So, these idiots have no problem concluding that we must be racists for not getting on-board with giving collectivism another chance.

Posted by: MikeO at April 26, 2009 01:41 PM (hz67i)

42 It's time for you wingnuts to admit the truth. The current rash of piracy was caused by Bush era deregulation.

Posted by: Typical Left Wing Dolt at April 26, 2009 01:43 PM (70sTG)

43 And a quick internet search shows that cruise liner Grukhas have already tangled with Somali pirates, with predictable results.

Posted by: DelD at April 26, 2009 01:43 PM (VsTTI)

44

#28 But, Janet, you told me the problem was American guns smuggled across the border into the hands of Somali pirates driving the crime wave. Don't you remember our morning conference in the bathroom?

Posted by: janet napolitano's anus at April 26, 2009 01:57 PM (MGu62)

45 This sound like a "mad as hell and not going to take it anymore" moment.  Wouldn't be surprised if this happens more and more.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:02 PM (zplc6)

46 O/T:  Read a great article about the Amish on the Instapundit site.  Seems like they are the only folks who might be benefiting from the real estate bubble.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:03 PM (zplc6)

47 I think Obama should send Megan McCain to Somalia, dressed in black, with all her gay friends, all listening to punk music, so they can have a dialog with the pirates to explain how errant they are in their ways and if they would only embrace homosexuality and punk music their problems would go away...  Yeah, that should solve it....

Posted by: Frustrated Joe at April 26, 2009 02:06 PM (cWg6W)

48 You folks are sooooo insensitive.
Have you ever thought that there feelings were hurt because no informed them, so these "pirates" missed the last afternoon buffet.
HATERS!

Posted by: pantshittingliberal at April 26, 2009 02:10 PM (Z5IS1)

49 O/T:  It is truly such a nice gesture for matt drudge to have enough hysteria for everyone.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:16 PM (zplc6)

50 You kind of feel sorry for the people on the cruise ships.  They finally have an opportunity to take a cruise at a price that is reasonable and look, they get interrupted by a bucnh of pirates, who, by the way, are supposed to be going after cargo ships and got the wrong memo.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:18 PM (zplc6)

51

We have become a nation of women.

Hey, some of us women folk are tough fucklebunnies, you know.

Not me personally, but I'll sic my Air Force and Border Patrol female neighbors on you.

Posted by: Mama AJ, F. B. at April 26, 2009 02:19 PM (X6Zdh)

52 O/T:  I wonder how many people didn't play golf today cause this is a day of record setting heat?

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:22 PM (zplc6)

53 My husband sensed I was about to get a major bitch on about the temp in the house and he turned the AC on.  (ok, so maybe I gave him a preview of the bitch to come...)  Ahhhhhhh!

Posted by: Tami (no relation to the vaccine) at April 26, 2009 02:24 PM (VuLos)

54 PIRATE HUNTING CRUISE

Tired of photo safaris and eco-excursions, where the only thing you catch is dysentery?

Sign up for cap'n Erik's Pirate hunting cruise!

This leisurely 3 week adventure will sail up and down the coast of Somalia in a specially equipped liner.

The SS. Phillips sails under a French flag--guaranteed to bring em sniffing for ransom. You and 30 of your brothers-at-arms lie waiting, disguised as rope and tackle, until the hunting bell sounds. Then it's all up to you!

Each night there will buffet, prepared by our famous Chef Ryback. (He's good with knives!), and a T-shirt* for whomever bagged the most pirates that day.

Bring you own weapons, or borrow one from the weapons locker. Every trip we add more seized weapons to the collection!

Book now, before the UN makes passes the protected pirates act.

*T-shirt is XXL, but shrinks after each laundering. Wash according to your body size.



Posted by: erik at April 26, 2009 02:27 PM (tyGSd)

55 @34 Q-ships, Mystery Ships, and a few other names.  They were designed to take out U-boats, who would surface and demand surrender or crew evacuation before sinking the boat in WWI and beginning of WWII.

http://bit.ly/tg4c
http://bit.ly/OkIul

Posted by: Ranba Ral at April 26, 2009 02:34 PM (fpk1J)

56 "54 PIRATE HUNTING CRUISE

Tired of photo safaris and eco-excursions, where the only thing you catch is dysentery?

Sign up for cap'n Erik's Pirate hunting cruise!

This leisurely 3 week adventure will sail up and down the coast of Somalia in a specially equipped liner.

The SS. Phillips sails under a French flag--guaranteed to bring em sniffing for ransom. You and 30 of your brothers-at-arms lie waiting, disguised as rope and tackle, until the hunting bell sounds. Then it's all up to you!

Each night there will buffet, prepared by our famous Chef Ryback. (He's good with knives!), and a T-shirt* for whomever bagged the most pirates that day.

Bring you own weapons, or borrow one from the weapons locker. Every trip we add more seized weapons to the collection!

Book now, before the UN makes passes the protected pirates act.

*T-shirt is XXL, but shrinks after each laundering. Wash according to your body size.



Posted by: erik at April 26, 2009 02:27 PM (tyGSd)"

hahahha at this point you would have a lot of takers on this one.  In reading this though my thoughts traveled to a new branch of the Coast Guard with the mandate to protect US shipping and Leisure ships around the world.  there would probably be lines of people hoping to "get in" and we would be providing jobs, just not the kind most people envision.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:44 PM (zplc6)

57 This story is PROOF that arming ships to fight off pirates doesn't WORK. Only dialogue and foreign aid will help, along with the admission by America that our arrogance is the root cause of this piracy.

This cruise ship was being PROVACATIVE, flaunting their wealth by sailing through Somali waters while ignoring the human rights of noble Africans who just want the i-Pods they're entitled to.

Oh, and our latest poll shows that 125 percent of Americans think President Obama is totally awesome and want him to do all our thinking for us. Give up you tea bagger neanderthal racist hater conservatives, We Won

Posted by: The MSM at April 26, 2009 02:45 PM (miw86)

58 I sure would like to see them attack a well arm navy ship and see how many of them end up and shark bait and seagull chow

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at April 26, 2009 02:48 PM (gdLZy)

Posted by: Israeli Security Team at April 26, 2009 02:49 PM (miw86)

60 "This can all be blamed on the internet, the home shopping club and HGTV.  The world sees what can be and they want it too."  said with great conviction today by my "admittedly dumb blonde friend" 

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:50 PM (zplc6)

61

muffy, well at least your friend isn't blaming Bush?

I'm down with blaming QVC and HGTV, I think both channels have committed atrocities against good taste and common sense.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2009 02:53 PM (AJ4xq)

62 This is O/T but I'm sitting here thinking about the kids who traveled to Mexico on spring break and got this flu and the other people in other states.  You could have been on a flight with them and not know it so you don't even know you have been exposed.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 02:56 PM (zplc6)

63

Muffy, great idea.  I'd work things out at the gun range and then buy a ticket.

Can you take your favorite weapon?  I'm thinking I'd like to take a BMG.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2009 02:57 PM (WpPL1)

64 It figures. We come here for intelligent debate and you wingnuts cheer on a bunch of bloodthirsty Jooooos murdering poor blacks just out fishing.

Posted by: The Axelrod Troll Team at April 26, 2009 02:57 PM (miw86)

65 @52 I wonder how many people didn't play golf today cause this is a day of record setting heat?

Psshht!! That would be Weak! My buddy and I played twice on the hottest day in recorded Vegas history. (we are both hoping that record stands, as we do Not want to have to that again).

Posted by: Terry at April 26, 2009 02:59 PM (foKte)

66 I thought I might avoid being in crowds since I'm not presently employed. However, I have to go downtown to report for jury duty. Thankfully I have a car so I don't have to take the disease incubators that Los Angeles MTA buses are.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 02:59 PM (miw86)

67 Are we sure this wasn't actually a Sicilian cruise ship?

Hmm... no, they probably would've finished the job and sent a fish back to the families of the pirates.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at April 26, 2009 03:04 PM (lOpq0)

68 ParanoidGirl... did you lose your FB status?! What happened?!

Posted by: Terry at April 26, 2009 03:05 PM (foKte)

69 My friend went for jury duty, she told the truth, they didn't take her for jury duty and one of the lawyers told her as she was leaving "you are not a very nice person".

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 03:05 PM (zplc6)

70 69 My friend went for jury duty, she told the truth, they didn't take her for jury duty and one of the lawyers told her as she was leaving "you are not a very nice person".

I would have said, "you should see how ugly I get when I'm stuck in a room listening to lawyers who watched too many episodes of Boston Legal"

Then I would have shouted... "DENNY CRANE!!!"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 03:13 PM (miw86)

71

Target practice from a cruise shipWait till marketing and advertising sees this..

Posted by: chicocano at April 26, 2009 03:26 PM (P2bg4)

72 Let’s be very honest about what this is about. It’s not about stopping pirates, it’s not about hijackings, they have no idea what the Jolly Roger was about, they don’t know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the little white speedboat. This is racism straight up. They are nothing but a bunch of cruise going Israeli rednecks.

Posted by: Juhneen Barfalo at April 26, 2009 03:29 PM (8CyOt)

73 Do they still have clay bird shooting on cruise ships?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 03:30 PM (miw86)

74

I lost my FB status when I de-cloaked from being a sarcastic sockpuppet in another post.

Now, I'm afraid I'm going to have to work hard to earn my FB status back.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2009 03:31 PM (AJ4xq)

75

Now, I'm afraid I'm going to have to work hard to earn my FB status back.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2009 03:31 PM

Pictures of big tits tend to be very persuasive

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 03:38 PM (miw86)

76

kbdabear, here's one:

http://tinyurl.com/388ygm

 

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2009 03:42 PM (AJ4xq)

77 kbdabear, my friend actually said "I'm a very well informed and educated person and I've read everything about this case and the guy is guilty hands down".  I don't know why the lawyers didn't want to hear that.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 03:48 PM (zplc6)

78 Ahh, good old Israelis.  Never go down without a fight.....

Posted by: experience smeperience at April 26, 2009 03:52 PM (IohMH)

79 Hey Juhneen @ #72. Awww c'mon girl.  Don't leave out the part about the limbic system of the brain.  That's mah favorite part.

Posted by: Cathy at IB at April 26, 2009 04:05 PM (rX6iH)

80

kbdabear, here's one:

http://tinyurl.com/388ygm

 

Funny stuff right there.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at April 26, 2009 04:12 PM (+VlPr)

81 Would a harpoon gun be considered a weapon?

You know, install a harpoon gun, and if anyone asks any questions, just say you're a whaling boat.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 26, 2009 04:12 PM (u61UO)

82

"Would a harpoon gun be considered a weapon?

You know, install a harpoon gun, and if anyone asks any questions, just say you're a whaling boat."

Only if it's on the next cruise boat I'm on.  And instead of dance lessons and poker games, I get to shoot that bad boy.  Then I'm on board with the harpoon gun.

Posted by: experience smeperience at April 26, 2009 04:14 PM (IohMH)

83 Didn't someone recently use a nail gun as a weapon?

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 04:15 PM (zplc6)

84 Muffy, great idea. I already replied, but apparently it didn't post. Question: Can I bring my favorite weapons?

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2009 04:23 PM (WpPL1)

85 81 Would a harpoon gun be considered a weapon?

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 26, 2009 04:12 PM

Yes it would

Posted by: Meghan McCain at April 26, 2009 04:23 PM (miw86)

86 Recently? That was from that Mel&Danny buddy-cop movie. "I nailed him."

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2009 04:24 PM (WpPL1)

87 speaking of Italy:  "Italy's various organized crime syndicates—often lumped together colloquially as Mafia Inc.—are gobbling up gas stations, muscling in on supermarket franchises, making loans to cash-starved businesses, taking over trattorias and acquiring buildings in swank neighborhoods in Rome and Milan investigators say"  http://tinyurl.com/cqu5se (the law of unintended consequences?)  BTW,  on a financial blog I read someone just posted that the market will be up on the news of the confirmed flu clases, how bizarrre is that?

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 04:38 PM (zplc6)

88 I guess it's time to stop relying on the dead hand of government - especially liberal government - to solve the pirate problem, and depend on good old fashioned CAPITALISM.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 26, 2009 04:42 PM (iafWn)

89 85 81 Would a harpoon gun be considered a weapon?

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 26, 2009 04:12 PM

Yes it would

How about guided torpedos?

Posted by: Ranba Ral at April 26, 2009 04:44 PM (fpk1J)

90 "Italy's various organized crime syndicates—often lumped together colloquially as Mafia Inc.—are gobbling up gas stations

Won't that offend the muslims?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 04:44 PM (miw86)

91 Hmmm... most cruise ships offer skeet shooting for onboard recreation... anyway we could incorporate pirate-hunting & hanging into the cruise schedule?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 26, 2009 04:50 PM (iafWn)

92 90 "Italy's various organized crime syndicates—often lumped together colloquially as Mafia Inc.—are gobbling up gas stations"

Won't that offend the muslims?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 04:44 PM (miw86)


Yes, but muslims have a way of piping down when faced with the sort of "foot bath" that involves concrete...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 26, 2009 04:52 PM (iafWn)

93

It's just a matter of time before the Somalies escalate their armament in order to "teach us a lesson." 

I hope brainiacs who are the national leaders of the civilized world are ready for the next move on our part.  Some stuff has to be set up in advace.  If we go into reaction mode, we're not going to like where it leads.

Hopefully someone has sent them a letter letting them know that as soon as they escalate, a multinational force is going to wail on their asses. 

But if there is not agreement among several key countries in advance, you can forget about it. 

We'll see if Obama the International Diplomat can set it up.

Posted by: Steve O at April 26, 2009 05:05 PM (1QEgS)

94 "92 90 "Italy's various organized crime syndicates—often lumped together colloquially as Mafia Inc.—are gobbling up gas stations"

Won't that offend the muslims?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2009 04:44 PM (miw86)


Yes, but muslims have a way of piping down when faced with the sort of "foot bath" that involves concrete...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 26, 2009 04:52 PM (iafWn)"

Is it true that a stewardess was fired becasue she wouldn't cover her head in Saudi Arabia? 

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 05:19 PM (zplc6)

95

Sign me up for the Pirate Safari.

Of course it will only be a matter of time before Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson would be complaining about us taking out dark skinned Pirates.

Posted by: DMC at April 26, 2009 05:26 PM (dC9Dx)

96 There is a nail  gun attachment for our hueys. something like 500 persec.Ooops thats been banned.Can't have biased readings on pirates going through metal detectors.That would be racist.

Posted by: chicocano at April 26, 2009 05:27 PM (P2bg4)

97

Most punks running-around in their CheErnesto/Mao/Hammer & Sickle t-shirts haven't the first clue about the communism's bodycount in the 20th century.

MikeO 

Back from dog walking, yeah it's true but there is so much more to the story.  See youtube of  Bezmanov on Brainwashing a Nation.  A former KGB agent speaks about how the biggest mission of the KGB was to demoralize, confuse, and ultimately brainwash whole nations and peoples (us) that they were: predatory powerful monsters who colonized the world and sucked it dry for our own greedy lifestyles, unjust, corrupt, tyrannical, racist, sexist, and anything else that was negative.  They used the "human condition" of unrest by claiming it came from an oppressive system.  An important element of this was eliminating dicriminatory thinking patterns that allow us to make good judgements and arrive at truthful, real conclusions by confusing discrimination against minorities with being discrimnating, i.e., being able to rationally distinguish between best vs. lesser vs. least and make good choices that make sense.  Also the sexual revoloution that was a part of Communist propoganda from the 30's onward and spread like wildfire in the 60's, and weakened the power of the Christian Church all over this country.  Long Story but very interesting.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 05:28 PM (gYU8Z)

98 http://tinyurl.com/d2fpc8  fascinating link.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 05:42 PM (zplc6)

99 oh now this is frightening:  http://tinyurl.com/dxe5vc

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 05:47 PM (zplc6)

100 w/o Google Chrome cant get tinyurls

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 05:48 PM (gYU8Z)

101 muffy, my paranoid little self so did not need to visit that link. I'm going to forget it exists.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2009 05:50 PM (AJ4xq)

102 muffy - can't get tinyurls what's the long url?  PS I love the name!

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 05:55 PM (gYU8Z)

103 @97 7HEAVENS,

A former KGB agent speaks about how the biggest mission of the KGB was to demoralize, confuse, and ultimately brainwash whole nations and peoples (us) that they were: predatory powerful monsters who colonized the world and sucked it dry for our own greedy lifestyles, unjust, corrupt, tyrannical, racist, sexist, and anything else that was negative.

I am completely with you.  My point was that people are hesitant to believe that the enemies of The West could have accomplished these things because it sounds like something that could work only if the bad guys could coordinate in some grand conspiracy that had many things that had to go right for their side.

It wasn't like that.  All they had to do was to attack the intergenerational transfer of wisdom, and the seven deadly sins took care of the rest.

Wood-eating mold doesn't need to coordinate to topple a house.

Posted by: MikeO at April 26, 2009 05:56 PM (hz67i)

104

grand conspiracy that had many things that had to go right for their side.

Yeah MikeO - They called them the Red Termites, very fitting.  I think their biggest weapon lately is as you say.  No one believes they could have been so successful in this when they were so unsucessful at evrything else.  I always thought that modern art was one of these tools in that: by refusing to use human forms, it erased what used to be the glorification of courage, human acheivement, sacrafice and love.  I can remember statements by the artists to that effect.  When I see David I am uplifted, when I see every downtown modern "art" that looks like a pile of dogshit I am not.  Art was one form of the intergenerational transfer of wisdom.  I have played pop music all my life and as much as I love pop music, it has not uplifted us either.  Long story 

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 06:10 PM (gYU8Z)

105 "102 muffy - can't get tinyurls what's the long url?  PS I love the name!

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 26, 2009 05:55 PM (gYU8Z)"

For some reason I can't post the long link I have tried and tried.  Sorry Paranoid, got that link in an eaail today it is being disseminated like wildfire.

Posted by: muffy at April 26, 2009 06:34 PM (zplc6)

106

I'm pretty sure piracy is protected by the Constitution. 

Posted by: Not Quite at April 26, 2009 07:20 PM (Bs8Te)

107 @107: "piracy" is such a judgmental term, Not Quite.

We should refer to its as "Extraordinary Maritime Rendition."

Yup, that's the ticket!

"Extraordinary Maritime Rendition."

Posted by: Clinton Administration Torture Counsel at April 26, 2009 07:31 PM (iafWn)

108 @54--that could be the one thing that would make me want to go on a cruise.  I love the comparison to eco-tourism!  Haha!  Take a vacation, and do some good in the world.  I'm on it!

Posted by: April at April 26, 2009 07:47 PM (eGKtv)

109 A quote from over at Rightwingnews:

"t's so hip that school kids in Albany, N.Y., coined a term for it: "Baracking." And it doesn't stop there. Those in the know at Albany High greet each other by saying: "What's up, my Obama?" and they respond to a sneeze with "Barack you." Misbehavior is peer-corrected with the admonition, "Barack's in the White House," which translates, "Show some respect."

I'd just LUV for these little misanthropes to have a group run in with a band of Somali pirates at sea. Yeah, "Barak YOU, assholes!

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 26, 2009 07:50 PM (iafWn)

110

April!  Baybay!  Send me an email.

 

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2009 08:17 PM (WpPL1)

111 So when can we expect these criminals to be hauled before the ICC?
And I do mean the security detail on board the cruise liner.


Posted by: RayJ at April 26, 2009 09:04 PM (o2Td/)

112 All you Hobo hunters should go on a cruise. You could pretend to be a disabled cruise ship...wait for the prates...and viola! have'em hanging from the yardarms and others being keel hauled, and other being lashed while tied to the mast. Fun!

Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2009 09:47 PM (u7D15)

113 Gee...I forgot the best park...You could make 'em walk the plank!!!!

Pirate hunting beats hobo hunting.

Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2009 09:52 PM (u7D15)

Posted by: royalmewigs at April 26, 2009 10:27 PM (a7HM/)

115 After watching South Park tonight, I fear the Somali pirates may get a new leader. Pirate Admiral Eric Cartman is obviously a tactical genius with a sharp eye for building esprit de corps.

Posted by: SGT Dan at April 27, 2009 12:31 AM (EGPmD)

116

"as the pirates pulled up next to the ship, the Italian tradition of throwing down their weapons inadvertently became a stroke of tactical genius."

Posted by: World News Daily at April 27, 2009 01:51 AM (SBIko)

117 Maybe its time to scrape the rust off some old Q-ships and get'em decked out with some nice fake manifests of a tempting cargo.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 27, 2009 07:36 AM (9Zeza)

118 Modern pirates are pussies. Hang a couple 'scarecrows' on the mast labeled 'Last Somali Pirate we encountered' and they won't come within range of an average first day army rifleman trainee. All boats are equipped with flares, one shot into their 'scow' and they would be too busy jumping in the sea to attack the ship.

Posted by: Eric at April 27, 2009 08:23 AM (MFvqO)

119

There is no "911" on the high seas.  Self defense is the only option.

Interesting though that the Italians actually fought these thugs off.  

 

Posted by: MAS1916 at April 27, 2009 09:08 AM (EjR/1)

120

pretend to be a disabled cruise ship...wait for the pirates...and viola!

There's been coupla master's theses & such on the concept that what set 17th Cent. buccaneers apart from society wasn't so much the "sense of freedom" but their taste for buggery.

These pirates are teen-aged boys, they tell us. And there's no law against buggery in international waters. No "controlling legal authority," at least.

So if you accosted would-be child moleseters, see, your NAMBLA rejects, and "offered" them a, well, a Q-ship to, well, cruise in...

And so long as they didn't actually kill any pirates, just promised to put them ashore (so we wouldn't have them applying for licenses in Iowa)...

Word would get around pretty fast, I'm a-reckonin', matey. Arrgh.

Posted by: comatus at April 27, 2009 02:00 PM (zFDqJ)

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