Hmmm... Harman Leak a Shot Across Israel's Bow?

Could very well be. The whole controversy is "bad for the Jews," as they say, as it reinforces paranoid suspicions of AIPAC controlling the US government.

Time to question the timing?

Leaks of highly classified NSA wiretaps don't just happen. Someone has to have a purpose, and have confidence that they will not become the subject of prosecution for leaking the material. While the leak may have some relationship to the upcoming trial, I think it is more likely that the leak is an attempt to set supporters of Israel back on their heals in light of a growing U.S.-Israel dispute over Israel's alleged plans to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel denies have imminent plans to attack, although one would not expect such acknowledgment anyway.
Israel's plans to attack Iran have been receiving increased press attention, drawing a public voice of disapproval from U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

Posted by: Ace at 02:07 PM

Comments

1 "....Across Israel's Bow" ?

Posted by: Alamo at April 20, 2009 02:12 PM (Mqupr)

2 Yep, across the bow.

Posted by: PBoilermaker at April 20, 2009 02:13 PM (YIsrA)

3 Well I certainly hope Israel has the gonads (and I think it does) to brush off Gate's "public voice of disapproval."

America is apparently now operating under John Kerry's "global test" bullshit foreign policy. No need for Israel to do so. It can't afford to.

Posted by: Dave at April 20, 2009 02:13 PM (Xm1aB)

4 the truth is always found in what is not being said

Posted by: Exparatrooper at April 20, 2009 02:14 PM (n2vBd)

5 What percentage of Jewish people voted of our young President? Happy now?

Posted by: MikeH at April 20, 2009 02:23 PM (LdYLm)

6 Yup, we've become the french. Stab 'allies' in the back to appease the islamofascists.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 20, 2009 02:23 PM (Haq+B)

7 A goverment using secret agencies' data to persue political causes? No - that just can't be.

Posted by: Yogi Bear at April 20, 2009 02:24 PM (8OFi+)

8
I stand by my prediction: Hillary Clinton took the job at head of State to do one thing: sell out Israel to win favor at the UN, where she plans to be the next Secretary General.

Posted by: D-ling at April 20, 2009 02:25 PM (Lhz3l)

9

sell out Israel to win favor at the UN, where she plans to be the next Secretary General.

That's pretty cynical. It also sounds about right for those bottomfeeders.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 20, 2009 02:27 PM (Haq+B)

10 More Wilderness of Mirrors shit. By the way, a book for book club.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2009 02:31 PM (L64A6)

11 Israel will attack Iran. It has no choice. If Barry does not stand by Israel after the deed is done, then all of the people who voted for Mac and half of the people who voted for Barry will condemn Barry for assraping an ally.

Barry can't have that.

Posted by: eman at April 20, 2009 02:34 PM (5Y1ul)

1st rule of book club: No one talks about book club.

And Isreal is really on their own, it would appear. I hope that isn't the case because it would be criminally stupid of our government.

Which means it's probably true.

Posted by: Eleven at April 20, 2009 02:39 PM (7DB+a)

Glad we're shooting across the bow of that "cruel, oppressive and racist regime in occupied Palestine."

Good choice of friends, Bambi. Chavez, Ortega, now siding with Ahmanutjob over the Israelis...

Posted by: The Q at April 20, 2009 02:41 PM (pfStM)

14 Yeah, not that it hasnt been said, but I agree, no way they can just ignore the nukes. They HAVE to take them out. The fuckers have said they will wipe Israel off the map. No reason for Israel to wait around for em to try.

Posted by: lowfibass at April 20, 2009 02:41 PM (T1ZAZ)

15 8
I stand by my prediction: Hillary Clinton took the job at head of State to do one thing: sell out Israel to win favor at the UN, where she plans to be the next Secretary General.

Well, it's something to think about. I've been wondering why she'd give up a lifetime sinecure in the Senate with a chance to accumulate real power and trade it in for 2-4 years as SecState, knowing full well Obama intends to keep all control in the White House via a bunch of policy czars...

Posted by: XBradTC at April 20, 2009 02:42 PM (vzrxD)

Even if it's true, this doesn't bother me at all on the Israeli side. All governments do that kind of thing. I can guarantee you, we would (and probably have) tried to bribe or blackmail high ranking officials in other countries to cover the tails of our agents. It's SOP. The only person at fault in this story is Jane Harman, and I still think she would have made a better head of the Intelligence Committee. This proves she's about the only Democrat willing to support Israel.

Though corruption really can't be tolerated.

Posted by: Ella at April 20, 2009 02:43 PM (jeP9I)

17 If the Obama administration somehow forces Israel to sit by and take a nuclear strike, then the US becomes an accomplice in a second Holocaust. Obama doesn't speak for me. Go Israel! Hit Iran, and hit 'em hard.

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 02:43 PM (A/vgC)

CHANGE!

Posted by: The 52% at April 20, 2009 02:44 PM (kZVsz)

19 sell out Israel to win favor at the UN, where she plans to be the next Secretary General.

I don't see Hillary being interested in irrelevance, which has been the signature quality of the UNSG.

Besides, UNSGs traditionally do not come from permanent members of the Security Council.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2009 02:46 PM (7YgGp)

-We fire "a shot across Israel's bow", warning our allies not to protect themselves against Iran, who has vowed to wipe out their country.

-Our President courts dictators who detest us and would gladly wipe us off the face of the earth if they could do so; he listens quietly to them rant and rave against the US, and agree with them that they are for the most part correct.

-At the same time, he handles diplomacy with Great Britain in a ham handed manner, at best.

-A report is released from our own Department of Homeland Security with no hard facts, but which infers that the real threat isn't the foreign crazies who would happily annihilate us, have attacked us several times already, killing thousands of Americans and vowing they will do so again. Rather, the real threat is presented by: ta daaah...conservatives and our own VETERANS who have put their lives on the line to protect us from the mad dogs out there.

-And on the homefront, trillions of dollars in debts as far as the eye can see. National "mainstream" news magazines proudly proclaim "We're all Socialists now."

Didn't that great author and proud American Michael Moore write a book a while back called something like, "Dude, Where's My Country?" I'm starting to think he has probably found whatever it is he thought had been misplaced.

Posted by: RM at April 20, 2009 02:46 PM (GkYyh)

21 The question is how do Israeli jets get to Iran to conduct a strike? Through Jordan and Iraq?

Will the US/Obama/Gates give Israel permission to overfly Iraq?

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 02:50 PM (jDX+5)

22 You know #19, i don't agree. People like Hillary don't think the UNSG is irrelevant. They think of that position as a great opportunity for graft (look at Kofi Annan !) and the control of other people. She thought being SecState for Obama would be great too -- a position she's totally unqualified for, but which for the time being satisfies her bossy nature and gives her patronage positions to hand out to keep the followers on board.

Posted by: Bluejade at April 20, 2009 02:50 PM (DjMXQ)

make the Mullahs glow.

Posted by: shoey at April 20, 2009 02:51 PM (IRh55)

24 OT: Meghan McCain Still A Dumbass

Can her 15 minutes of fame please be over soon? She obviously has issues related to realizing that her 60-year-old mom is way hotter than she is. Allahmoby: make yourself useful and ride off into the sunset with this attention-whore-RINO.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at April 20, 2009 02:54 PM (iLxbh)

25
If Obama, the Dems, and the rest of the world has its way, the UN is about to become very powerful. Hillary see the handwriting on the wall and she wants to be historic, too, just like Obama.

Hillary will be thrilled to run the UN in the next few years as it dictates to the citizens of the world on how they should live.

Posted by: D-ling at April 20, 2009 02:54 PM (Lhz3l)

26 I said across her nose, not up it!

Posted by: Helmet at April 20, 2009 02:54 PM (kZVsz)

27 The question is how do Israeli jets get to Iran to conduct a strike? Through Jordan and Iraq?

You don't use jets. You use ballistic missiles.

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 02:54 PM (A/vgC)

28 Donks playing hardball politics with intel leaks...?

Nonsense, responsible, patriotic professionals would never do that...

wait a minute...never mind.

Gawd, I miss Dubya...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at April 20, 2009 02:55 PM (lYKj1)

29 Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 02:50 PM (jDX+5)

I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan and Saudi Arabia quietly allowed an Israeli overflight for the purpose of attacking Iran. There was never any love lost between Arabs and Persians and the Saudis might have more to lose than anybody in the event of a nuclear Iran.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at April 20, 2009 02:57 PM (iLxbh)

30 I don't think they use the "shot across the bow" tactic anymore. This is just the first salvo of an orchestrated effort to tarnish and intimidate. I only question who is behind it. So far, Obama's people seem like unmitigated nitwits so I find it hard to believe they put this together themselves. Sounds like a long-simmering State Department thing , to me. There is a core at State, and I do not know how large, who have it in for Israel. Seriously.

Posted by: prairiemain at April 20, 2009 02:58 PM (uDqa7)

31 "...sell out Israel to win favor at the UN, where she plans to be the next Secretary General."

That's about the most rational thing I've heard all day.

Posted by: Groober Dash Rendar, PhD at April 20, 2009 02:58 PM (Usqb3)

32 When you say "bow" Obama says, "which direction?"

Posted by: Right Wing Extremist 999999999999 at April 20, 2009 02:59 PM (NLtVk)

33 "Will the US/Obama/Gates give Israel permission to overfly Iraq?"

Equal probability to the amount Bambi will reduce the deficit via cutting 100 mil.

Posted by: Groober Dash Rendar, PhD at April 20, 2009 03:00 PM (Usqb3)

34 You don't use jets. You use ballistic missiles.

Posted by: lmg

Nukes? You think Israel would do that? It a hell of a step to take.

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 03:01 PM (jDX+5)

35 The interesting question is what Bama will do if/when Israel strikes. Recall that one wench (Susan Rice?) who held the enlightened opinion that US troops should occupy Israel.

Posted by: Groober Dash Rendar, PhD at April 20, 2009 03:03 PM (Usqb3)

"Will the US/Obama/Gates give Israel permission to overfly Iraq?"

Wouldn't that be up to the Iraqi government to decide? Granted, they will likely be looking to Obama for the signal...

Posted by: reason at April 20, 2009 03:04 PM (kZVsz)

37 I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan and Saudi Arabia quietly allowed an Israeli overflight for the purpose of attacking Iran. There was never any love lost between Arabs and Persians and the Saudis might have more to lose than anybody in the event of a nuclear Iran.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard

Jordan would, or else they are not strong enough to risk intercepting the Israeli jets. Saudi Arabia I am not so sure about. They might like to, but sitting on a powder keg of radical Muslims, I am not sure they would risk it.

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 03:04 PM (jDX+5)

State have always been full of Arabists. As much fun as I had with Obambi in the previous post, it's probably some State careerists that leaked it.

Let us not forget that State transcends Admin policies. For every Bush appointee who was loyal to Bush, there were cockholsters like Wilkerson and Armitage...

Posted by: The Q at April 20, 2009 03:04 PM (pfStM)

Samantha Powers. But Rice isn't the brightest bulb either

Posted by: The Q at April 20, 2009 03:05 PM (pfStM)

Wouldn't that be up to the Iraqi government to decide? Granted, they will likely be looking to Obama for the signal...

Posted by: reason

Well, they don't have any jet interceptors so it would in reality be an American call.

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 03:05 PM (jDX+5)

41 Is this asshole at all distinguishable from a Manchurian Candidate? G-damn Soros must be orgasmic.

Posted by: Groober Dash Rendar, PhD at April 20, 2009 03:05 PM (Usqb3)

42 My pessimistic take on things to come:

I know everybody's hoping Israel will handle Iran, but I wouldn't count on it. Israel is politically paralyzed, and the threat of nuclear annihilation just seems too "out there" for most people in Israel to actually go to war over in the here and now. It's "unthinkable". Israel will probably do nothing, and Iran will get nukes. It's gonna happen, folks.

Once they have nukes, Iran won't do a sneak attack, though. They'll escalate with words and propaganda and threats, in order to provide some pretext before they nuke Israel. By that point, Israel will see it coming, but it may be too late to do very much about it.

Posted by: sandy burger at April 20, 2009 03:13 PM (twiRb)

43 Travis, no ballistic missiles with conventional penetrating warheads. There is a detailed analysis of the issue available on the web from one of the DC think tanks (CSIS, IIRC). The other option is what UAV was intercepting Hamas arms shipments in Sudan (another link I don't have handy on this machine.)

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2009 03:14 PM (L64A6)

44 Nukes? You think Israel would do that? It a hell of a step to take.

They don't have to be nukes, if conventional warheads can do the job. But I don't think the US (under Bush) has sold Israel the bunker-buster weapons they have requested.

But let's face it, Israel is alone now. Their only formerly-reliable ally in the world is now headed by a crypto-Muslim or a Muslim sympathizer who is denying them the weapons they need while funding their mortal enemies. The US has shown it will not take out the Iranian nuke program. Iran has shown that their highest goal is to vaporize the Jews. It's coming down to an existential showdown.

If Israel was my country, and it was my choice? Hell yeah, I'd push the button. And yes, it's going to result in a big, big mess, if not WWIII. But faced with annihilation, what choice is there?

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 03:16 PM (A/vgC)

45 Travis, no ballistic missiles with conventional penetrating warheads. There is a detailed analysis of the issue available on the web from one of the DC think tanks (CSIS, IIRC). The other option is what UAV was intercepting Hamas arms shipments in Sudan (another link I don't have handy on this machine.)

Posted by: Jean

My understanding is that the Iranian facilities are buried fairly deeply. The US has talked about mini-nuke penetrators for exactly this reason. The other problem would be having the warheads ready and enough missiles to do the job. I am not sure how many it would take but it would have to be prepared well in advance.

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 03:18 PM (jDX+5)

46 FWIW, I would personally be very careful firing shots of any sort in Israel's general vicinity

Posted by: doug at April 20, 2009 03:18 PM (UpJts)

47 Can we get a list of Congresscritters taking Saudi moola? Check Bambi's website.

Posted by: mojo at April 20, 2009 03:19 PM (g1cNf)

48 If Israel was my country, and it was my choice? Hell yeah, I'd push the button. And yes, it's going to result in a big, big mess, if not WWIII. But faced with annihilation, what choice is there?

Posted by: lmg

I agree and Obama may just force them into an option that drastic if he forbids overflight.

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 03:20 PM (jDX+5)

49 I have to agree with comments that Barry will be committing political suicide if he does not back Israel up in an attack on Iran. That is if Iran even gives him any choice. If they go apeshit on us with missiles in the region, and Barry doesn't respond. Game over pal. The only person that will still approve of him will be Cindy Sheehan.

Posted by: doug at April 20, 2009 03:20 PM (UpJts)

50
Was it just my imagination, or was Ahmadinejad getting cheered while he excoriated Israel today?

Posted by: D-ling at April 20, 2009 03:25 PM (Lhz3l)

51 43, 44, That's a level of sophistication for missiles the Israeli's don't have. We might be able to do that, but we don't really know. We've never tried it. The US has spend a gazillion dollars on improving the accuracy of its ballistic missiles so they could strike Russian missiles in their silos. And even then, a "hit" was within 500 yards. That's not gonna cut it for a conventional warhead.

Israel has never had to work on accuracy that much, since their historical targets have always been counter-value. You hit Tel-Aviv, we hit Tehran. You just have to be in the ballpark with that type of force.

Posted by: XBradTC at April 20, 2009 03:28 PM (vzrxD)

52 50
Was it just my imagination, or was Ahmadinejad getting cheered while he excoriated Israel today?

yeah, but it was just the usual suspects, all the Arab League nations and whatnot..

Posted by: XBradTC at April 20, 2009 03:30 PM (vzrxD)

State is in it for State, and the interests of the USA are irrelevant. There is one ambassador to Israel. There are what, forty or so ambassadors to Muslim countries? How likely is it that any State employee who is pro Israel will ever be ambasssador to a Muslim country?

They don't hate Israel, they are just looking out for number one. When is the last time you heard of State firing someone for going off the reservation?

Israel better look out for Israel.

Posted by: MarkD at April 20, 2009 03:30 PM (MMy4A)

54 The other problem would be having the warheads ready and enough missiles to do the job. I am not sure how many it would take but it would have to be prepared well in advance.

Israel has two subs with ballistic and/or cruise missiles. I don't really know their capabilities. I have read in the past that Israel is thought to have 300 megatons of nuclear weapons "online". That is several times the amount needed to nuke Iran back to the stone age.

Unfortunately, Iran has distributed and buried its nuclear facilities. Israel probably has the best intelligence on where they are and how to take them out. Some are supposedly buried underneath residential areas. The number of nukes needed to take them out may be similar to the number of nukes needed to totally destroy Iran as a functioning society. The question then becomes, do you solve the problem temporarily, with a limited strike which may still kill tens of thousands of Iranians, or do you solve the problem permanently?

This is getting into "Dr. Strangelove" territory.

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 03:34 PM (A/vgC)

55 Travis:

CSIS
Study on a Possible Israeli Strike
on Iran�s Nuclear Development Facilities
Abdullah Toukan, Senior Associate
March 4, 2009
page 72

There are many answers to deeply buried, and at the current stage of development not all of the target can be buried. It's when the systems are near complete that burying them becomes an option. The entire infrastructure of research and support cannot be buried.

Nor, can the Iranian oil and natural gas export facilities. No cash and the Russians go home. Bomb and missile development stop (or slow).

I would suspect Israel can build more missiles then a broke Iran operating in the dark can. The rest of that report covers the airstrike options. I don't recall if it address the long range strike UAV capability Israel recent used in Sudan.

Israel is not without options and doesn't need our help.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2009 03:34 PM (L64A6)

56 I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan and Saudi Arabia quietly allowed an Israeli overflight for the purpose of attacking Iran. There was never any love lost between Arabs and Persians and the Saudis might have more to lose than anybody in the event of a nuclear Iran.

Hell, the Saudis would probably provide tankers if asked - then they'd lie and say the Israeli jets went over Iraq, 'cause that's just how they roll.

Posted by: Holdfast at April 20, 2009 03:35 PM (Gzb30)

57 Do you have a link, Jean?

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 03:40 PM (A/vgC)

58 I can't post links from here, but Google found it on the first page.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2009 03:44 PM (L64A6)

a shot across Israel's bow?

Looks more like a shot at Gonzo and the GOP to me.

Posted by: flenser at April 20, 2009 03:47 PM (4Dox+)

60 Here is the link to the article Jean referenced.

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 03:51 PM (A/vgC)

Yeah, I have never understood the people who say we could not stop Iran.

Centrifuges take electricity to work. I am pretty sure we could shut down their electric infrastructure for pretty much as long as we chose to.

Of course that would have pretty devastating consequences to the population, and it is, of course, technically a war crime I think.

Posted by: doug at April 20, 2009 03:52 PM (Sa/HV)

62 I should state that the words after page 72 above are mine, not from the report.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2009 03:52 PM (L64A6)

63 Nukes? You think Israel would do that? It a hell of a step to take.

I'm afraid that we're going to live long enough to see nukes fired in anger. In which case, it is better to give than receive.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at April 20, 2009 03:53 PM (1hM1d)

64 Were these guys only so tough with our enemies as they seem to be with our friends. Of course in Obama Land, enemies are friends and friends are enemies.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 20, 2009 04:10 PM (hlYel)

65 Doug, I wanted to take Kharj Island back when they had our embassy. It still the same problem for Tehran.

Iran is very vulnerable to external pressure on her economy and responds to economic threat with asymmetrical attacks. She exports oil and natural gas, but needs to import gasoline. The oil and gas exports go thru very narrow channels and the resources themselves sit under ethnic minorities who have little love for the Persians.

If you have already gone and circled the wagons, and have no fear of Iranian asymmetrical attacks or constraints on Persian Gulf oil flow (conditions that describe Israel), then downsides to an attack on Iran are indirect and "political."

In my opinion, Israel holds the cards and the US will be picking up the pieces if Iran isn't stopped before Bibi gets fed up. I can't see him passing this threat onto another liberal adminstration in Israel or his chidren.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2009 04:16 PM (L64A6)

66 Israel is not without options and doesn't need our help.
Posted by: Jean

That's a very interesting report. Thanks for that.

You can download the report at sic semper tyrannis

The israeliran-range-study from april, 2009 I believe.

Posted by: Travis at April 20, 2009 04:19 PM (jDX+5)

67

. . . I think it is more likely that the leak is an attempt to set supporters of Israel back on their heals . . .

I'd like to think an Associate Clinical Professor of Law at Cornell Law School would know the difference between heels and heals.

Especially stompy ones.

After all, he is some kinda Doctorate or something, prolly certified by the same Cornell School of Animal Husbandry as Keef Olberman.

Posted by: Tinian at April 20, 2009 04:40 PM (Ohodx)

68 Jean, I agree Netenyahu will not avoid attacking if he must. I am not eager to see it. It will be a sh** storm. But I think it needs to happen or we are going to have a very bad situation with Iran exporting assymetrical intefada to lots of western countries under the umbrella of nuclear protection.

Posted by: doug at April 20, 2009 04:46 PM (jCwj+)

69 We need to start prosecuting some of these leaks, regardless of the source.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2009 05:14 PM (f6os6)

70 The leak obviously came out of Holders office. Look at the reporting, Gonzalez is specifically rebuked for stopping the probe to gain political support for the NSA wiretaps.

Cheney's response is to ask for the background CIA memos to be declassified, saying what we learned from interrogation (and the plots stopped).

Obama, being a Muslim (I will recall that Malor scoffed at that, repeatedly) wants the US to be attacked by jihadists (hence the CIA memos thing and the "horror" that we waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the 9/11 Mastermind, 138 times) ... and he wants Israel nuked.

This has broad support among Obama's backers, including many Jews. Who are SWPL yuppies first and Jews a distant second. Just as Gays form "Queers for Palestine" knowing full well that the Hamas, Hezbollah, and PA organizations routinely lynch gays while Israel protects them.

Just as Women routinely back Islamists (think: Megan McCain) because they are "SWPL popular" and anti-American cool.

Most American Jews are SWPL yuppies and would frankly welcome Iran nuking Israel off the face of the Earth, because they are SWPL yuppies and that is what SWPL want.

Holder and Obama's game (the two are cronies) is to make Israel get nuked, and have the US be attacked. So a large-scale surrender on all fronts, particularly speech (nothing that "offends" Muslims and everything offends them), religion, gun ownership, and particularly Straight White Men can be outlawed or restricted or punished respectively.

Women, Gays, Blacks, Hispanics and SWPL yuppies would all endorse such a response. Their enemy is not Jihad but the Straight White Guys who are the hated competitors.

Obama of course is a Muslim who hates America and Whites. That is abundantly clear in the Latin American summit, his groveling and kissing the ring of the Saudi King, his hugs and grins for the Evil Clown, his nodding at Ortega's rant, etc. Israel has to be destroyed in order to further his Muslim agenda, which btw most of his supporters know quite well and agree with.

Israel knew a time would come when SWPL yuppies and Women (think again Megan McCain) would take control of America electorally, due to demographic shifts, seeing that process work itself out inside Israel itself. Rockets rained down on half the country and nearly half STILL voted for Lvni's appeasement/surrender policy that was SWPL yuppie/female-oriented.

THAT'S WHAT NUKES ARE FOR. Last ditch insurance. Netanyahu got the brush off in wanting to meet with Obama (conveniently out of town). He's been told no overflight permission for any attacks on Iran, and various Obama advisors are leaking things to the press about how the US would invade Israel if it attacked Iran. The sale of the F-35s to Israel has been cancelled.

I expect Netanyahu to roll the dice, nuke first, take the consequence later. Obama would LOVE to invade and destroy Israel, on behalf of Muslim nations, and his SWPL Yuppie backers, Women, Gays, Blacks, and Hispanics (his electoral base) would heartily endorse that the way they endorsed Clinton's Air War on Serbia. THAT is what the leaks are about, out of Holder's office, and likely Rice and Power's staff. [Power fantasized about invading and abolishing Israel.]

However, Obama's weak. Reports are coming in that he interfered with the Somali Pirate hostage affair, forbidding specifically any lethal force, presence of SEALs, and the Bainbridge commander finally just ignored him, called for the SEALs himself and gave them the go-ahead to take the shot when they could. The military loathes Obama, and knows him to be both weak and a Muslim who hates America, it's tradition, and military.

Netanyahu knows if he does nothing, Iran nukes anyway. Nuke now, save Israel and gamble on a US military mutiny against the Muslim President.

Posted by: whiskey at April 20, 2009 05:23 PM (L03mw)

71 whiskey, you have to admit, Obama finally got a dog.

Posted by: lmg at April 20, 2009 05:40 PM (A/vgC)

72 One more thing to toss into the mix is increased cooperation between India and Israel, like the Israeli-built spy satellite that the Indians just put into orbit today.

This could signal a possible realignment from the US-as-patron relationship with Israel, to an India-as-equal relationship. It would make sense from the Israeli standpoint to pursue the India relationship as the Obama-lead US begins to cut ties. I'm wondering how much benefit India would receive, other than the obvious high-tech partnerships.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2009 05:43 PM (7YgGp)

73 Israeli's.........doing the job Obama won't do.

Posted by: GarandFan at April 20, 2009 06:36 PM (C3okI)

74 If there's one thing I've learned from the first 100 days of this administration it is to always question the timing.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 20, 2009 07:30 PM (AJ4xq)

75 IllTemperedCur,

India should scare the Gulf states more then Israel. Imagine if the Indian laborers started demanding basic human rights and a significant Indian naval force showed up to support their legitimate call for the redress of grievances.

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79 PM Netanyahu of Israel was supposed to attend the AIPAC Conference this Spring, but was told by Mr. Obama's advisors that Mr. Obama would not meet with him. So PM Netanyahu will just send a video appearance at the conference.
For our Jewish acers, why is Obama so festive and talkative with left wing dictators who are our enemies and who also want to destroy Israel but won't give face time to our ally's Prime Minister?

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