Predictable: CNN Demands YouTube Yank Embarrassing Susan Roesgen Video Based on Specious Copyright Claim

CNN permits a lot of YouTube videos of its news (and "news"). Apparently they consider them free advertising.

But here, they've claimed copyright.

The question of whether an excerpt is fair use does not, and cannot, turn on whether the company claiming copyright feels the excerpt is helpful or harmful to its corporate cause.

Posted by: Ace at 01:26 PM

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1 CNN = No Bias, No Bull...

HAAAA! I'm happy to see CNN crumble

Posted by: C. Jordan at April 19, 2009 01:30 PM (dUG1X)

2 I downloaded the You Tube and converted the file to a WMV for all to use.

Download it and repost it to You Tube as often as possible.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/they_never_learn

Posted by: Stephen Macklin at April 19, 2009 01:30 PM (R7LgM)

3 Can we ever expect anything less from the COMMUNISTS,NEWS,NETWORK after all its owned by RED TED TURNER and run by BIG BAD WOLF BLITZER

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at April 19, 2009 01:31 PM (PEc2j)

4 Their problems would be solved if the just fired Susan Roesgen ... but ehy must actually like her (lack of) style

Posted by: bill at April 19, 2009 01:31 PM (zIEEc)

5 CNN lost all credibility when they sold their souls to Saddam during the run up to the first gulf war.
They covered for that maniac just to stay in country.

Cretin Network News.

Posted by: Boeing at April 19, 2009 01:35 PM (YaBmG)

6 CNN's a little late to the party. The whole country allready seen it,.... oh about a hundred times allready.

Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 01:35 PM (+FzLa)

7 CNN just continues to be stupid and make things worse.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2009 01:38 PM (f6os6)

8 Look how this reporter handled a protester against Bush.

http://tinyurl.com/df9r8l

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at April 19, 2009 01:39 PM (tl2xt)

9 Speaking of CNN, WTF is with this clip? Were CNN and Charles Jaco faking the news in studio during Gulf War I?

Posted by: nickless at April 19, 2009 01:42 PM (MMC8r)

10 Sorry, wrong clip-- this is the RAW FOOTAGE for the clip in #9, that shows it's all in studio...

Posted by: nickless at April 19, 2009 01:46 PM (MMC8r)

11 @10

Now that's fuckin' funny !

Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 01:53 PM (+FzLa)

12 Wow

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2009 01:55 PM (f6os6)

13 Lay off CNN guys. They're in the right here. It's all covered under the FCC's "Cone of Copyright" doctrine which surrounds all television news reporters 24/7. It surrounds them, penetrates them, it binds the galaxy together.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 19, 2009 02:02 PM (7YgGp)

14 Within DAYS of the aniversary of the Bay of Pigs, we get our president cozying up with the fascists we gave into 47 years ago.

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10 Posted by: nickless at April 19, 2009 01:46 PM

Amazing stuff.

Posted by: Squatch at April 19, 2009 02:05 PM (COZb8)

16 This is why digital archiving is both a boon and a danger. A boon because a video or sound clip can be parallelized and distributed widely enough to route around censorship; a danger because if it is suppressed, then the history it documents could be wholly lost, or the document could be changed. We've already seen foreign governments routinely put out photoshopped propaganda as "news", but luckily we still have other resources for finding out what is true and what is false.

Being old fashioned, I believe that history is fixed and describes what actually happened, not what we wish happened. It remains to be seen if this quaint view survives the digital revolution.

Posted by: Monty at April 19, 2009 02:06 PM (dCZbI)

17 The protesters need to bring their own cameras and shoot whatever the news crews shoot. That way you have your own legal copy and you can show what the "news" edits out.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at April 19, 2009 02:07 PM (bB2sB)

18 For those who don't know how to grab a YouTube video, try this freeware.

Posted by: ChrisinMB at April 19, 2009 02:15 PM (UTdJp)

I'm no lawyer but it seems to me that selectively enforcing copyright would preclude the holder's ability to enforce it at all.

Is CNN using the same lawyers as the Church of Scientology?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 19, 2009 02:18 PM (bZ9KY)

The protesters need to bring their own cameras and shoot whatever the news crews shoot. That way you have your own legal copy and you can show what the "news" edits out.

Something like that actually happened back in the 80s with 60 Minutes. They did a feature about a nuclear power plant under construction in Illinois and featured all kind of stuff about waste and abuse by the plant officials. They did a hit interview of the plant manager that made him look like a prevaricating idiot.

The plant also filmed right along beside them and they made their video. They showed what actually went down in a side by side comparison of the �real� interview vs the 60 minutes edited interview. I saw this video and I wish I had a copy of it because it was in an old open real format and you will never be able to find it again.

The idea was to get local PBS stations to air the video all over the country but CBS threatened a lawsuit to the local staions and the public never got to see it.

After I saw that video I never watched 60 minutes again and I never trusted CBS news again.

This is the same kind of shit that was done to Sarah Palin to make her look bad.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2009 02:21 PM (f6os6)

21 Next time someone shoot's some VX off, I'll have to remember to grab my tin can. Gas mask's are so overated.

Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 02:24 PM (+FzLa)

22 CNN: Certainly Not News

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 19, 2009 02:28 PM (IqfKc)

23 DMCA gives websites like youtube protection if they enforce takedown notices. It's easier for youtube to just enforce the takedown notice than defend a person's free speech.

Posted by: Dr. Evil at April 19, 2009 02:30 PM (/TcVM)

24 CCCPNN

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Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 02:32 PM (+FzLa)

25 #20 Vic - that is why when Palin or any conservative politician or spokesperson that grants an interview should insist on taping the interview as well with their own people. Hopefully that would keep everyone honest and no 'creative' editing done.

Posted by: Cheri at April 19, 2009 02:39 PM (AQtrD)

26 Right, we saw this with Palin clips, where they maybe keep pushing a question till she gives a response they think they can twist, or that sounds least intelligent.

If some TEA partiers had gotten angry or more aggressive in response, they could have cut out all the Roesgen antagonistic crap, and color the news their way. As it is, it just reveals how biased CNN is.

Posted by: bill at April 19, 2009 02:40 PM (zIEEc)

Right, we saw this with Palin clips, where they maybe keep pushing a question till she gives a response they think they can twist, or that sounds least intelligent

In ABC interview they actually cut and pasted responses from one question to another to make her look bad. They could have also done that at CBS but we were never able to get access to unedited transcripts.

What I didn�t understand then is why there was a huge outcry from the McCain camp. After the election was over and I saw what came out of the McCain camp I then understood.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2009 02:44 PM (f6os6)

28 What fools CNN are, after everybody has seen it, and the buzz is starting to fade, then they assert their copyright claim, so it can all be re-posted and re-linked.

Posted by: Kazinski at April 19, 2009 02:47 PM (/Z7uv)

29 bias bullshit

Posted by: ding at April 19, 2009 02:48 PM (Xomyd)

30 At the Santa Monica Tea Party four Code Pinkers tried to crash the party with a banner. The crowd simply swallowed them up.

Around five pm KABC-TV pulled the Pinkers out of the crowd, marched them across the street from the tea party, and filmed their banner in tight close-up.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 19, 2009 02:49 PM (CqxjU)

31 I posted the video on YouTube ... I'm sure peeps will go viral on YouTube now like a muthafucka posting this video.

CNN's demand to pull it proves that the video puts their reporter in a BAD LIGHT. I've heard lots of lefties say that it actually makes Roesgen look good - but CNN pulling the video PROVES they aren't proud of her performance.

Oh - and she's on leave now?

Oh - and she applied TWICE for a job a FOX?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

You can't make this shit up. Woman is a FOOL.

And looks like CNN gets Fox's sloppy seconds.

Posted by: HondaV65 at April 19, 2009 02:50 PM (9vlDt)

32 The thing that strikes me funny about the Code Stinker's are, these wrinkled old hippie gasbag's are supposed to be anti-war protester's, not anti-tax conservative protester's. No way in hell this mob wasn't rented out by the DNC, because their all grass rootsy and shit.

Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 02:53 PM (+FzLa)

33 We didn't start the flame War, it was alway's burnin' since the world's been turnin'..........

Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 03:02 PM (+FzLa)

that is why when Palin or any conservative politician or spokesperson that grants an interview should insist on taping the interview as well with their own people. Hopefully that would keep everyone honest and no 'creative' editing done.

I always think about Connie Chung interviewing Gary Condit about the Levy affair. Condit was smart enough to absolutely insist that the interview air unedited. And boy oh boy did Chung come off like an idiot. How many times can you ask the same question, Connie? Your editors aren't going to save you this time. It just showed in spades how these fucks manipulate what we see and hear.

Any politician that didn't learn a lesson from the Chung/Condit interview deserves whatever they get. I give Sarah a pass because she wasn't able to call her own shots thanks to the douchenozzles running McCain's campaign.

Posted by: jaleach at April 19, 2009 03:03 PM (gHrZU)

35 Could someone hand me a shovel?

Posted by: CNN at April 19, 2009 03:06 PM (miw86)

36 And looks like CNN gets Fox's sloppy seconds.

True, but I think since they already have Andi Cooper, MSNBC will get
Shep Obama's stretched rectum to poke.

In some fairness to Shep, he did mock CNN over Roesgen's drama queen act. Mildly

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2009 03:10 PM (miw86)

37 Could someone hand me a shovel?

One shovel comin' right up.

Posted by: MSNBC at April 19, 2009 03:11 PM (+FzLa)

38 Yes, but did they tell YouTube that -in exchange for incurring $25,000 more debt per person from the Porkulus Bill- they were eligible for a $400 tax credit? Susan Roesgen believes that's a very persuasive argument.

Posted by: Ted K. at April 19, 2009 03:13 PM (tbIP7)

39 Susan Roesgen - Scrunt. It can't be said enough til that bitch is unemployable

Posted by: Frank G at April 19, 2009 03:15 PM (Aaspy)

40 I almost feel bad for giving the h/t to NewsBuster's on the second video from Founding Blogger's. Somehow I feel complicit in her impending unemploment.

Guess I'll have to drink myself into a stupor to feel better and get rid of the guilt. Not that I wouldn't do that anyway mind you, but right now, it's a convenient excuse.

Posted by: Blazer at April 19, 2009 03:23 PM (+FzLa)

Which one of you guys is sockpuppeting Spurwing? Cause I know damned good and well he can't spell that many words right. The old Spurwing would've spelled it cominuts noosnet wruk.

Posted by: pendejo grande at April 19, 2009 03:28 PM (gudTT)

42
Probably the most laughable counterpoint of Susie Scrunt's was that the guy should be jumping for joy because the Benevolent Blagos of the state of Illinois were getting 50 billion dollars to play with. Yay, team!! I'm surprised she didn't hit him with the clincher, how much the Daley Machine was getting in stimulous $$$

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2009 03:37 PM (miw86)

43 CNN has no fear of embarrassment! All televisions are tuned to CNN, the Fox News stomachs are roasting in hell!

Posted by: Baghdad Bob at April 19, 2009 03:40 PM (miw86)

44 Freakin' hypocrites. Spineless cowards. Predictable losers. I'm just truly surprised it took them this long.

Posted by: katya at April 19, 2009 03:50 PM (oRJZj)

45 Stephen Macklin, thank goodness for smarter people than me with the same spirit of righteous rebellion. Thanks for doing that with the vid. Resistance!

Posted by: katya at April 19, 2009 03:52 PM (oRJZj)

46 bill at #4, if they did that they'd be admitting that they were wrong and we were right. Never going to happen. But maybe they'll promote her to the Yukon or something which would actually be better than firing her.

Posted by: katya at April 19, 2009 03:54 PM (oRJZj)

47 Send her to cover the Harare Zimbabwe beat. If she survives a couple of years of that, upgrade her to covering all the soccer tournaments on Easter Island.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2009 04:04 PM (ysoZG)

#20 Vic - that is why when Palin or any conservative politician or spokesperson that grants an interview should insist on taping the interview as well with their own people.

A commenter, I think here, also suggested Palin (and future GOP candidates for any office) wear a digital timer on her/their lapel so viewers could follow how chopped up the time was from when a question was asked and when it was answered, or show how out of order the answers were being cut and pasted, and how much time was missing before the next question was asked.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2009 04:10 PM (vulJH)

49 No, what they should do is to get agreement in writing that the answers will be unedited. McCain's people should have known that.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2009 04:25 PM (f6os6)

Speaking of unedited remarks from politicians, C-SPAN is airing Gov. Palin's speech from the Indiana RTL Banquet at 6:30 PM Eastern.

Posted by: Mr. Wednesday Night at April 19, 2009 04:28 PM (7dXKM)

51 Does this mean that CNN has implicitly admitted that its coverage of the Tea Party in Chicago was less than satisfactory?

Posted by: FireHorse at April 19, 2009 04:40 PM (5KNeJ)

52 CNN, as usual, is full of shit! That video has 'fair use' written all over it. It's already been re-posted on YouTube. And by people that will probably tell CNN to go get fucked.

Posted by: GarandFan at April 19, 2009 05:03 PM (C3okI)

53 Does this mean that CNN has implicitly admitted that its coverage of the Tea Party in Chicago was less than satisfactory?

No it just mean's we got caught stacking the deck. That scrunt Roesgen is a rank amateur.

We'll know better next time and send Campbell or Christiane in. They know how to keep the cool under pressure from all of you right-wing terrorist's without batting an eye.

Plus Campbell will suck you off to get good press, which is an extra added benefit.

Christiane will at least show you her tit's and maybe, just maybe give you a handjob if your real nice, but if you've ever seen sun-dried raisin's,......well then, you've seen her tit's.

Posted by: CNN at April 19, 2009 05:43 PM (+FzLa)

54 We here at Rock Bottom would be very interested in hiring Susan Roesgen. If anyone hears about her return from vacation, we'd be willing to pay you for the tip. We offer free tickets to the 2009 Candy Convention, but are willing to negotiate.

And CNN? Don't look now but our ratings are better than yours. We have what you (well, maybe not you, literally, but normal analysts) would call "credibility" and people know it. Say "hello" to fourth place. News at eleven.

Posted by: Godfrey Jones at April 19, 2009 05:48 PM (swuwV)

55 Lawfare will destroy us--from our basic freedoms, to losing the war with our internal enemies. We need "loser pays" as soon as possible, but oddly, it's a feature of European culture the lefties are not too excited about.

(And sockpuppetting Spurwing Plover should be a bannable offense. Spurwing is an AoSHQ treasure.)

Posted by: Flubber at April 19, 2009 05:55 PM (dVb3R)

56 Isn't it about time videographers and archivers start posting to other video venues? There are others besides YouTube, right?

We know Google bought YouTube and Google is a fundamentally liberal organization. It would follow that YouTube would project the sentiment of its owners and skew (once a critical mass is reached) that which is controversial and critical of the Left such that it doesn't remain so damaging.

Maybe Rupert Murdoch could find some interest in a right-leaning social-video-networking portal that competes with YouTube in the big pool of the internet.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 19, 2009 06:22 PM (swuwV)

mean's ... right-wing terrorist's ... her tit's ... sun-dried raisin's ... her tit's.

I wonder who wrote this? I wish we could easily trace hash marks from our homes.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2009 06:29 PM (vulJH)

58 Have the managerial brains at CNN considered that instead of pulling the video from Youtube... they should pull Roesgen from CNN?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 19, 2009 07:16 PM (iafWn)

59 CoolCzech@58:

WRT "managerial brains at CNN" - Heh. Good one.

If the object was having integrity, sure. But it isn't. The truth conflicts with their goal. She was either put on assignment to manufacture a hit piece or did it of her own accord with management blessing.

Just stating the obvious. I know you know this.

In this case, we can blame CNN for both the crime and the cover-up. Well played, CNN. That took serious commitment. Plus the follow-up with other on-air talent perpetuating the vulgarity smear? Nice touch.

CNN might as well start shilling for the "Fairness Doctrine" and bailout subsidies from the taxpayer 24/7 now because it'll be out of business in short order with the current management and credibility gap.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 19, 2009 07:47 PM (swuwV)

60 Ha.

Too late.

Posted by: Alana at April 19, 2009 08:34 PM (JE2zV)

61 I have to give credit to CNN. It's not easy to establish and destroy a franchise in such a short time. I'd boycott their advertisers, but I don't know who they are.

Posted by: MarkD at April 19, 2009 09:19 PM (VI20d)

62 @61: neither does CNN. It will be delicious, passing by Wolf Blizter on the street as he's begging for handouts...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 19, 2009 09:37 PM (iafWn)

63 13 Lay off CNN guys. They're in the right here. It's all covered under the FCC's "Cone of Copyright" doctrine which surrounds all television news reporters 24/7. It surrounds them, penetrates them, it binds the galaxy together.

Awesome, when do we get to chop off a hand, and chuck them down the reactor core?

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Watching their hysterical and idiotic interviewer in Chicago on Wednesday, it seems a valid thesis.

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