ASU Denies Obama an Honorary Degree, Stating His "Body of Work" Is Yet To Come; Liberals Barnicle, Mitchell Go Crazy

Everyone's goofing on ASU here, including Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan.

I guess I'm partisan, but I kinda get ASU's point.

Lots of elitist digs at ASU, too.

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Comments

1 I'll put ASU up against the Cornell Ag School any day.

Posted by: kev at April 10, 2009 01:17 PM (Zz0oZ)

Andrea Mitchell ain't worried cuz she knows that Barry knows the issues and the facts.

Andrea Mitchell ain't worried cuz she knows that ASU is a buncha racist rednecks.

Andrea Mitchell don't know shit.

Posted by: jaleach at April 10, 2009 01:18 PM (gHrZU)

3 No honorary degrees should be given to anyone. It's just dumb. What, are you going to go around saying "I'm an honorary Doctor". the only degrees that matter are the ones you earn. Notre Dame is the most wrong in all of this.

Posted by: muffy at April 10, 2009 01:18 PM (zplc6)

4 I'm surprised ASU had the balls to state the obvious.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at April 10, 2009 01:20 PM (fagDq)

5 The phrase they should be using is piece of work

Posted by: toby928 at April 10, 2009 01:21 PM (PD1tk)

6 Sorry, I am not watching the video. I would rather watch porn some where else.

Oh, ASU are racists. There ya go, dems, I said it for ya.

Posted by: Ginger at April 10, 2009 01:25 PM (TeSUC)

The MSNBC's description in the video box says;

"ASU witholds honorary degree from Obama"

Maybe it's just me, but doesn't that wording imply that Obama somehow "earned" the degree, and now ASU is just being a jackass and not giving Obama what he earned?

The arrogance has reached an all-time high. I'm not talking about Obama's arrogance, I'm speaking only of the media and their belief that this President is the greatest evah, and needs to be treated as such.

The scary thing...if this is only the first few months of his term, what's it gonna be like 3-4 years from now?....wait, I know...

"The Pope witholds sainthood from Obama"

Posted by: conservativeinthecity at April 10, 2009 01:25 PM (i3tSP)

Second good point for AZ. First they offloaded that sorry shit Napolitano on Obama and now no “honors”. Perhaps that State is now looking up.

Posted by: Vic at April 10, 2009 01:26 PM (f6os6)

9 I really don't think these elitists realize that their Ivy League wussmanities degree barely compares to engineering at ASU or any big state U.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 10, 2009 01:26 PM (T0NGe)

10 I have spent all of my life not liking ASU. Except for today.

Posted by: MAJ O at April 10, 2009 01:26 PM (bQ4oU)

11 "The Pope witholds sainthood from Obama"

It will be said about the Nobel prize, at least.

Besides, if he wants a degree from ASU, maybe he should make his transcripts available.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 10, 2009 01:28 PM (T0NGe)

12
By the way, on the video, I love the way that Obama has mastered the Mussolini head-tilt, complete with squint and pouty mouth. He's well on his way to being a Fascist in form as well as substance.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 10, 2009 01:33 PM (0joCR)

13 The real slap in the face is that ASU actually went on the record to state that he had been considered for an honorary degree but was declined. Usually the process of nominating, vetting, and approving candidates for HDrs is a secretive one, to avoid embarrassment for all parties (the Deans and others at the universities who are vying for a limited number of HDr slots each year and the candidates themselves). It's really unusual for a university to have a spokesperson come out and say "yeah, we considered him but decided he wasn't good enough."

Good for ASU in recognizing what so many of us already knew -- Lightworker has achieved very little despite all of the advantages he's enjoyed.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 01:33 PM (KQBGs)

14 BTW - fuck Pat Buchanan.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 01:33 PM (KQBGs)

15 His body of work being overseeing the dismantling of the USA. He's not quite done with that yet.

Posted by: rockhead at April 10, 2009 01:34 PM (DvaIL)

What is the degree that the Wizard of Oz gives to the Scarecrow??? We could give Barack that one.

Posted by: ford at April 10, 2009 01:35 PM (Ki7fm)

17 How do you "withhold" something that wasn't earned?

Posted by: Bosk at April 10, 2009 01:35 PM (fazYB)

18 You know, maybe Notre Dame could have pulled this. Deny him the honorary degree and he might turn down the invite.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 10, 2009 01:35 PM (T0NGe)

19 18 You know, maybe Notre Dame could have pulled this. Deny him the honorary degree and he might turn down the invite.

Absolutely. There is not a one-to-one correlation between giving a commencement address and receiving an HDr. In the past, Notre Dame had bishops and other clergy give the address -- and on multiple occasions -- so obviously the person giving the commencement address doesn't have to receive the HDr.

ND's problem is that Rev. Jenkins forgot his vows. He's shown no humility or obedience to the church hierarchy.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 01:38 PM (KQBGs)

GO DEVILS!

*sniff* My alma mater made does me proud!

Posted by: Salty Alaskan at April 10, 2009 01:40 PM (QohqE)

Oh to have sat in on the review board meeting:

"Well, what's he done that we can give him a degree for? ....Anyone?"

Posted by: TakeFive at April 10, 2009 01:40 PM (/3pxq)

22 I should go and talk at ASU. They'd love the Nobel Prize I won years before in Physics.

Posted by: President Joe Biden at April 10, 2009 01:41 PM (+YWed)

23 What a bunch of worthless cocksuckers on that show; honorary degrees are a fucking joke anyway and an insult to anybody that worked to earn a real one. Of course we still don't have any documentation to realize just what the fuck Preznit DynOmite ever did to earn his.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 10, 2009 01:43 PM (dYNX5)

I'd like to bestow an honorary kick in the ass to Obama.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 10, 2009 01:44 PM (1Jaio)

25 Rock on, Arizona State.

Almost makes up for John McCain being elected to anything there. You know. Almost.

Posted by: Ella at April 10, 2009 01:44 PM (jeP9I)

Can anyone who has experience with this explain what is the protocol for honorary degrees? Is it typical to get one if you are a commencement speaker?

Also, how many honorary degrees does Bush II have? Obama?

And can I get an honorary G.E.D.? It would help out quite a bit. You know, with the job search and everything. I'm just sayin'. Job offers don't just grow on trees. It's a tight market out there.

Posted by: Ed at April 10, 2009 01:46 PM (VplQ7)

27 God they make me sick on that clip. There you go ASU grads the world over, they are smarter than you cuz theys on the TV! Go get a job with your lawn moving degree of whatever. Rednecks.

Posted by: Alex at April 10, 2009 01:50 PM (sAP8F)

28 Arizona State University, BRAVO, Sun Devils!

Chicken shit Obama has yet to produce his university transcripts, senior or graduate theses, or anything substantial. His books were written by Ayers. If anyone "deserved" credit for Obama's successes, it would be Ayers to get an honorary degree--but THAT would need to come from Columbia or some Ivy League institution that promotes inbred lame brains who bomb American citizens and destroy the Constitution.

Send this group of media assholes to hell. And the Sun Devils have the pitchforks to deprive the empowerment of MSNBC's prevailing insanity.

As per the MLK Holiday, IT WAS CELEBRATED AS A MEMORIAL DAY IN ARIZONA though not given the designation as a day-off from work and school. The rationale: George Washington and every other great American NO LONGER enjoy their own individuated federal holiday. Since conforming to the day-off status that required a former holiday being relinquished and no longer observed, do recognize how the ACLU and NAACP have corrupted the MLK message, revising King's color blind "Dream" (MLK plagiarized) into the perpetualization of black victimization to promote "black supremacy" and reverse discrimination.

Mecham was impeached because he was a crook with savings and loans just like Obama using ACORN to ruin Fanny Mae & Freddy Mac.

Fuck MSNBC!

Posted by: maverick muse at April 10, 2009 01:50 PM (G6YRo)

What is the degree that the Wizard of Oz gives to the Scarecrow???

Scarecrow got a “testimonial” because he didn’t have a brain.

Posted by: Vic at April 10, 2009 01:50 PM (f6os6)

30 Sure, he's young and hasn't written or done much, makes sense. Being the president is pretty impressive, but I wouldn't give him an honorary degree for winning a popularity contest, no matter how big.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 10, 2009 01:53 PM (PQY7w)

31 "And can I get an honorary G.E.D.? It would help out quite a bit. You know, with the job search and everything. I'm just sayin'. Job offers don't just grow on trees. It's a tight market out there."--Ed

Hey, graduate degrees make a prospective employee verboten for the jobs Obama promises to create for illegal immigrants by spending all those higher tax dollars he's imposing.

Posted by: maverick muse at April 10, 2009 01:56 PM (G6YRo)

32 To hell with Harvard I'm sending my kids to ASU!

Posted by: Mrs. Compton at April 10, 2009 01:58 PM (DzFTv)

33 Interesting Joe Scarborough mentions what would happen if Ronald Reagan spoke at Princeton and this happened to him.

It used to be the custom for the President to speak at Harvard's commencement at 50 year intervals of its anniversary. This obviously presented a dilemma in 1986 when the applicable person to show up would have been Ronald Reagan. There were protests from faculty and alumni over reports he would get an honorary degree.

So Harvard decided 3/4ths of the way through his presidency that he would be allowed to speak, but wouldn't get the honorary degree that went along with it.

Naturally, Reagan decided "screw them" and didn't show up.

If I were Obama I'd probably take this as a snub, and I might even not blame him for not showing up, but this isn't unprecedented and Obama in 2009 is yet to be the man Ronald Reagan was in '86.

Posted by: AD at April 10, 2009 02:01 PM (B9p4m)

Fuck it, why don't we just let Rahm Emanuel decide what degrees Obama gets, and print them up? I mean, we have no idea of what courses he took and passed or failed... he might be a fucking nuclear brain surgeon for all we know!!

Maybe the Oval Office should just appoint who gets degreee and who doesn't, just like they appoint CEO's, and be done with all this meddling in education by faculties that may not realize yet that dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism?

Posted by: sherlock at April 10, 2009 02:04 PM (ZrS0c)

35 See that seal on the Honorary Degree? It says Arizona State University with the official seal and has the motto on it. It's real, so there..pfffftttt

Posted by: Keith Olbamamann at April 10, 2009 02:07 PM (miw86)

36 It's my view that the reason given by ASU for not making the award is/was an excellent reason for not electing The One in the first place. He hasn't done a damn thing but write two books--about himself.

Posted by: joated at April 10, 2009 02:10 PM (1kwr2)

Wussmanities Degree

AmishDude, thanks to you my coffee-soaked keyboard is stickinggggggggggggggggggggg

Posted by: sherlock at April 10, 2009 02:10 PM (ZrS0c)

38 What a classroom full of snot-nosed, arrogant, condescending, coddled little nancypants brats. Every one of them needs time with a switch and then a bar of soap in their pieholes.

Posted by: Jazz at April 10, 2009 02:20 PM (hnq5i)

39 Can anyone who has experience with this explain what is the protocol for honorary degrees? Is it typical to get one if you are a commencement speaker?

Usually the university takes nominations for the degree recipients and has a process to vet the list and determine who receives the degrees. Because the conferral of a degree does reflect on the university, the faculty usually play a pretty large role in determining who will and who will not get a degree. At some universities, the nominations are sent to the board of trustees or regents for approval.

Which leads to the question: why does Andrea Mitchell hate academic freedom?

Posted by: Slublog at April 10, 2009 02:21 PM (qjKko)

40 As a recent ASU graduate, I have never been MORE proud of my university :0)

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at April 10, 2009 02:25 PM (u3hU2)

Honorary degree? You mean the kind someone gets just for showing up?

That explains a lot about the people who believe themselves "entitled" to receive something just for being there.

Speaks volumes.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2009 02:26 PM (mAhn3)

42 Can anyone who has experience with this explain what is the protocol for honorary degrees?

At the institutions where I've been there is a nomination process that goes through the university president's office, although ultimately the decision to award the degree falls on the board of trustees (at many places the board of trustees actually approves each degree awarded, even undergraduate degrees). There is a lot of politics involved as schools usually have a limited number of honorary degrees that they'll award each year. Deans are usually involved heavily in determining who is nominated from their schools and making sure that the folks who are nominated would be acceptable to their faculty. Others weigh in as well, including members of the president's cabinet, the board of trustees, and key alumni. The Vice President for Advancement (who oversees alumni relations at most places) also weighs in... truth be told, people do get nominated for honorary degrees based on factors beyond just their "achievements" in their professions, service to the university is also a factor.

At some point there is approval by the faculty (I think this can either be by general vote, through the faculty Senate, or by the Deans) and a vote by the Board of Trustees.

I was at a university where the engineering dean wanted his alumnus to receive an honorary doctorate in management (that was what his alumnus wanted and that alumnus was an "important" one as well as a major donor prospect). The president's office relayed the request to the management dean who discussed it with his senior faculty leaders and concluded that the management faculty would not go for it. The engineering alumnus simply hadn't achieved enough of note in business to warrant the HDr. After some very careful politicking, the dean sent a very carefully worded note to the president in which he provided his personal support for the alumnus to receive an HDr -- in some other field.

Is it typical to get one if you are a commencement speaker?

I think there's a lot of variation on that. Some places make a point of not inviting external people to speak at commencement to avoid upstaging the graduating students and I believe other places may actually hire speakers.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 02:27 PM (KQBGs)

43 and I worked damn hard for my ASU degree, did the Magna Cum Laude thing while working full time and even with a 'baby break' to have my son...50 hrs a week at work, 2 hrs every night on campus, lunch breaks nursing my son, yep

what did Obama do? Roll into town with his Frank Marshall people to see in Chicago list, trade on his racial mix, agitate poor people and play the race card til he knocked the better candidate out, twice?

yeah frak that, he wants an ASU degree let him earn it..

so is he going to 'forgive' my 40,000 student loan debt or is that not an option for Irish-Italian white girls born in Queens?

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at April 10, 2009 02:29 PM (u3hU2)

44 40 As a recent ASU graduate, I have never been MORE proud of my university

If you can, try to send a donation to the university accompanied by a note saying how glad you are with their decision. Send it directly to the Advancement Office (you can direct the gift to your old department, but make sure the development people handle the gift directly). The VP for Advancement will undoubtedly be collecting feedback about this decision and sharing it with the president and trustees.

If you are the right age (45+) and have the patience, you might also want to contact the Planned Giving office. Tell them that you were motivated by this decision to include ASU in your will. They may call you once (to try to find out the amount), but usually planned giving people are very circumspect and won't pester you incessantly... but they will track your intention and report it to the VP.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 02:34 PM (KQBGs)

Can't we just quote the video from MSLSD? eww.

Posted by: paranoid polly at April 10, 2009 02:39 PM (YLNjm)

46 AND I love how my beloved ASU just announced the Navy ROTC is joining our Army and Air Force ROTC on campus at ASU
Cuz we know who the real heroes are....

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at April 10, 2009 02:53 PM (u3hU2)

He hasn't done a damn thing but write two books--about himself.

And I helped. A lot. Seriously.

Like a lighthouse guiding a ship to port, or any of a dozen other nautical references that I use over and over again when I'm writing shit down.

Posted by: B. Ayers at April 10, 2009 03:17 PM (gQ+XA)

As a U of A Wildcat grad and native Arizonan, I would like to give my ASU colleagues an attaboy!

This shows that regardless of our differences, and the fact that this podunk shitkicker state DOES maintain the OLDEST college football rivalry, we are aligned on one thing: POTUS is a NOT-US and gets no degreeez.

Posted by: JDubya at April 10, 2009 03:42 PM (rYaSa)

49 Notre Dame's loophole on this is that it's customary to give HDrs to all its keynote speakers.

Notwithstanding, this is fucking humiliating for every Catholic and member of the Notre Dame family, to be so schooled by a public uni. Believe me, the pressure is mounting up there by the day as more and more bishops come out against this shit. The One might not be disinvited, but Rev. Jenkins might well find himself out of a job soon. He's losing backing within the order.

Posted by: Filly at April 10, 2009 03:56 PM (lsiux)

50 49 Notre Dame's loophole on this is that it's customary to give HDrs to all its keynote speakers.

That may be so in recent times, but historically that was not necessarily the case.

In any event, Father Jenkins has an obligation to respect the U.S. bishops' instruction to Catholic organizations to not honor and give a platform for people who actively work in opposition to Church teaching.

The "loophole" he can use with President Obama when he calls to withdraw the invitation is that he (Jenkins) failed to follow proper protocol (a concept with which the Obama administration seems to be all too familiar) and get his bosses' go ahead to extend the invitation.

Jenkins should be apologetic to Obama. He's handled this whole thing very poorly. But the embarrassment of admitting his (Jenkins') mistake should not preclude him from doing the right thing.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 04:24 PM (KQBGs)

51 <i>36 It's my view that the reason given by ASU for not making the award is/was an excellent reason for not electing The One in the first place. He hasn't done a damn thing but write two books--about himself. Posted by: joated</i>

And... we're not REALLY all that sure about those books either.

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Posted by: Paul_In_Houston at April 10, 2009 04:32 PM (RmqD+)

52 In any event, Father Jenkins has an obligation to respect the U.S. bishops' instruction to Catholic organizations to not honor and give a platform for people who actively work in opposition to Church teaching.

Jenkins will point to the Land o' Lakes statement on that, plus his jaw-dropping "we're not honoring his pro-abortion decisions because we say we're not" statement. Which is, of course, bullshit.

Posted by: Filly at April 10, 2009 04:34 PM (lsiux)

53 Damn, JDubya. As a two time ASU alum, I hafta give you props on your post (4

. While I always hope that the Wildcats fail miserably at EVERYTHING they do on the athletic field, that's as far as it goes. I can't believe I'm sayng this, but I'd gladly work side by side with Wildcats in order to beat this punk. If Obama can bring Cats and Devils into alliance, he truly is the antichrist.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at April 10, 2009 04:34 PM (DVl4L)

Go Sun Devils! (Except next September, when they come to Athens) But this is a pretty ballsy move to make in the lefty infested world of academia.

Also, ASU coeds are outrageously hot, and as a Georgia grad, I don't say that lightly.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 10, 2009 04:48 PM (oQzPK)

55 It'll be interesting to see if/when the University of Chicago law school decides to give Lightworker an honorary doctorate.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 04:59 PM (KQBGs)

Maybe andros can swing an honorary degree from Pace for Troll Studies?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2009 05:20 PM (vulJH)

57 The One will not be denied!!!!

Michael M. Crow, president of Arizona State University, tells POLITICO that the school is reconsidering its widely mocked plans not to give President Barack Obama an honorary degree when he speaks at commencement on May 13 and will “honor him in every way possible.”

A formal decision has not been made, but it was clear from Crow's comments that the university is headed in that direction. ASU risked becoming a national punch line if it did not quickly retreat from its policy against conferring honorary degrees on a sitting politician.

Of course it did. No one dare not worship the One. All non believers will be dealt with by our fair press.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 10, 2009 05:29 PM (wENJ0)

58 Truly proud of Arizona today. Hope they stick to their guns.

Posted by: Have Blue at April 10, 2009 05:41 PM (CrOVI)

The breeder Biden bought a puppy from is being harrassed by activists and authorities.

Not nasty conservatives, but the animal rights nutbars and their allies.

Posted by: Have Blue at April 10, 2009 05:46 PM (CrOVI)

I've got a question? Where the fuck did Mike Motherfucking Barnicle go to school? Isn't he a proven plagiarist or something else sleazy? Yet he can look down his flat, gin-blossomed nose at Arizona State?

I knew I hated that guy for some reason; I am sick and goddam tired of these ass-bag journalists, who probably went to expensive diploma mill schools that throw a degree at anyone who pays the tuition, shit on state universities like they are in Belize or someplace.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 10, 2009 05:55 PM (oQzPK)

61 Maybe they can give TOTUS a communications degree.

Posted by: Michael at April 10, 2009 06:06 PM (siOQ7)

62 Too bad ASU caved.

I have to say, I was unaware of the tradition of U.S. presidents demanding speaking time at commencement ceremonies and honorary doctorates, but based on Crow's statement, I guess that's what they do.

Next time some lib academic screams "academic freedom" at me as an explanation/excuse for some ridiculous behavior, I'll make sure to mention this case.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 06:32 PM (KQBGs)

63 Lots of elitist digs at ASU, too.

Don't worry, even now MSNBC is planning a two-hour special on Arizona State University: The Oxford of the American Southwest. All is forgiven now that they have caved.

Posted by: Y-not at April 10, 2009 06:33 PM (KQBGs)

64 He has an honorary resume, an honorary background story, honorary authorship, why not an honorary degree? Perhaps a BS in Reading Aloud.

Posted by: t-bird at April 10, 2009 06:42 PM (FcR7P)

65 UGAdawg at 60 - Not plagiarism IIRC (meaning I'm too lazy to look it up right now). Barnicle wrote soft human-interest stories for a Boston paper. Wrote a story or series of stories about a nurse who worked with kids with cancer. Caused some interest and people tried to contact her to support her. Barnicle became defensive about letting any one know how to get in touch with her and it came out that he had made the whole thing up. Turns out many of his other stories were the same, either made up from whole cloth or at least exagerated grossly. Now PMSNBC and Mathew's specifically are the only ones who will touch him with a ten foot pole journalistically.

Posted by: Have Blue at April 10, 2009 06:53 PM (CrOVI)

66 Barnicle has also been the Kennedy family's personal cum-dumpster; so much so that I think it permanently altered his DNA. Andrea Mitchell would have a difficult time being less professional than Mikey was when JFK Jr died and anybody brought up the possibility that he might have somewhat fucked up.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 10, 2009 07:07 PM (dYNX5)

Just a procedural delay...ASU is waiting for the One's trascripts to arrive from Columbia and Harvard...then it's a go!

Posted by: Andrew at April 10, 2009 08:15 PM (VKG9j)

68 Hellfire! A guy who has been elected President of the United States and most powerful leader in the world doesn't deserve some pansy elitist university "honorary" degree.
He's done okay without academia approval I guess.

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Posted by: royalmewigs at April 10, 2009 10:56 PM (eoWqu)

70 I thought it was very fitting to have Obama speak at a college like ASU. I mean, consider the acronym: it is USA spelled backwards. Very Obama to choose a school that hates America. But it turns out even he is too liberal for them. You know their mascot is the "Sun Devil?" Do they hate God too?

David Horowitz should look into this.

Posted by: N. Daatum at April 10, 2009 11:35 PM (g1l3w)

71 what's with the gaggle of elitist douches mocking ASU? smirking to each other like it's not a real school. particularly that andrea mitchell. someone push her off her chair so i can laugh.

Posted by: anna at April 10, 2009 11:39 PM (AA6vI)

72 Anna, that would be the state school/anti Pac-10 hate, except Cal-Berkeley and probably Stanford.

Posted by: JS at April 11, 2009 01:34 AM (geqYz)

73 Considering most of their audience either dropped out of High School or never went to college, why are the MSNBC douche nozzles insulting ASU?

Got news for them: tens of millions of Americans went to state schools or non-Ivy League private schools. They are what made this country great, until their douche of a Former President-elect communized it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2009 07:04 AM (iafWn)

74 @68: "The most powerful leader in the world"???

That sounds awful unilateral and arrogant, you LIBERAL MOTHERFUCKER.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2009 07:08 AM (iafWn)

Honorary degree? You mean the kind someone gets just for showing up? That explains a lot about the people who believe themselves "entitled" to receive something just for being there. Speaks volumes.--Posted by: EC

The Empty Suit would pad his voting record count of "present" with another entitlement present to augment his fictitious accomplishment résumé.

Posted by: maverick muse at April 11, 2009 07:17 AM (G6YRo)

76 He has an honorary resume, an honorary background story, honorary authorship, why not an honorary degree? Perhaps a BS in Reading Aloud. Posted by: t-bird

love it

Posted by: maverick muse at April 11, 2009 07:27 AM (G6YRo)

77 He's done okay without academia approval I guess.

You stupid cum-dumpster; who does academia approve of more than Ann Dunham's little bastard?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2009 07:30 AM (dYNX5)

78 With Obama, one step forward places you ten leaps backward.

ASU invited Obama to speak at commencement and Obama agreed to do so without any honorary degree involvement. Being what happened, the ASU student newspaper documented the story in their own fashion. The story as retold disturbs the chips on American shoulders. Drive by media thugs terrorize Arizona. The ASU President attempts to keep the peace without substantiating anything beyond a record that is being misrepresented according to Mike Allen, Politico, whose own agenda is printed loud and clear in "the story".

At least from 1950s-1980s, the Board of Regents were indeed the governing bodies of the universities in Arizona; UofA, ASU, NAU. Whereas, the university president played the public relations role, and most certainly never had the legislative/judicial/executive power over the Board of Regents under which the president functioned.

Mike Allen twisted ASU Pres. Crow's arm and writes his Politico piece "announcing" presumptively what Mike Allen would determine as ASU policy since in his wisdom Mike Allen rules the Board of Regents.

Obama agreed to address the ASU commencement without their invitation containing any expectation any honorary degree. Whenever university officials were asked, they responded with professional simplicity stating circumstances as understood from their institution. But, being themselves philosophically above any and all universities' Board of Regents, the presumptive MSNBC and Mike Allen/Politico know best what "must surely happen" to make Obama happy so that the world will live as one.

Obama made an agreement under given circumstances. That Obama get more from the deal than stipulated provides America with ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF OBAMA DISREGARDING CONTRACTS and exercising opportunistic aggression at the expense of citizens and institutions. This is more socialism, spreading the wealth of an academic degree "with all rights and priviledges therein" by political decree.

For Obama to be anything other than "honored to speak to the graduates of ASU without further ado" proves his predation. Bend over and petrify for Obama's pleasure. If you fail to receive Obama in the fashion he determines at any time after an agreement is reached, punitive measures follow. Hit and Run. Mike Allen and the MSNBC will see to your initial ridicule. Obama's bandwagon celebrates what his bus ran over.

This former ASU Board of Regents Scholar defies Obama and his White House Spokesman for allowing the brouhaha to exist and for their perpetual promotion of Obama inspired conflict at the expense of those whom Obama agreed to accomodate.

THAT Democratic diplomacy earns consistent failure, whether abroad, in Washington DC, or any locale including Arizona State.

Posted by: maverick muse at April 11, 2009 08:52 AM (G6YRo)

79 Contrary to Montini's Blog at the AZ Republic newspaper, ASU is holding firm.

by Anne Ryman - Apr. 11, 2009 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

What do broadcaster Hugh Downs, former U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and humorist Erma Bombeck have in common?

An honorary degree from Arizona State University, something that, as of Friday, ASU had no plans to bestow on President Barack Obama, the university's commencement speaker on May 13.

Posted by: maverick muse at April 11, 2009 09:01 AM (G6YRo)

80 God bless 'em. Hold firm, ASU.

Posted by: Filly at April 11, 2009 10:11 AM (lsiux)

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