"The Curious Case of 200 Nearly Identical Media Headlines"

All within 24 hours.


• Third of Illinoisans went without health insurance in last 2 years: Sun-Times

• Report: 2.5M in Michigan lacked health insurance: Chicago Tribune

• Study: 29% of Ohioans have gone without health insurance: BizJournals

• Report: More NJ residents lacking health insurance: Forbes

• Study: Many Kansans are uninsured: BizJournals

• Report tallies uninsured in Hawaii: KPUA AM 670

• Study: 1 in 3 Alabamians have no insurance: BizJournals

• 1 out of 4 NH residents lacked health insurance within last two years: WBZ

• 1 out of 3 Coloradans lacked insurance in past two years: Denver Post

• Nearly 1 in 3 Idahoans lack health insurance, study says: Idaho Statesman

• One in four nonelderly Minnesotans has been without health insurance, study shows: Twin Cities

• 1 in 3 are uninsured in Georgia, study says: Augusta Chronicle

• 1.3 million Louisiana residents uninsured: Independent

• Millions in N.C. lack health plan: Winston-Salem Journal

• Uninsured are mostly working: Sun-Herald

• Nearly one-third of Wyoming residents went without health insurance in past two years: Wyoming Tribune

• Report finds health insurance lacking in W.Va.: Charleston Gazette

• Nearly 1/3 Of Kentuckians Uninsured Says Report: WFPL Radio

• REPORT: 254K Rhode Islanders Uninsured at Some Point from 2007-2008: ABC 6

The "study" frequently mentioned in the headlines was done by Families USA, a liberal advocacy group:


According to Discover the Networks, Families USA is a member of the "Progressive States Network", which works closely with (you guessed it) ACORN and the SEIU. These ultra-partisan groups have truly one agenda: big government.

Director Blue goes on to take apart the study.

Isn't it odd that the moment a hardcore liberal group sends out a study to the media, 200 headlines blossom?

I'm not sure that happens when Heritage or the AEI sends out a study.

I sorta think it doesn't.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM



Comments

1 Can somebody say Journolist?

Posted by: MilkinaBox at April 09, 2009 12:02 PM (qiyrP)

2 Repeating Democrat talking points leaves the brain much more time to contemplate the personal lives of Sara Palin's children.

/can we call them the Pravda media now?

Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2009 12:05 PM (OKZrE)

3 The "journalists" are scared shitless they'e going to be out of work soon, and want someone *else* to cover their health insurance. Then they can freelance!

Posted by: cassandra at April 09, 2009 12:05 PM (GdalM)

4 Brainwashing is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: Twinks at April 09, 2009 12:07 PM (+2eXr)

5 Journalism has been dead for a long time.

Posted by: zmdavid at April 09, 2009 12:07 PM (A3DV0)

6 If it's on my fax machine, from a liberal special interest group, it must be true!

Posted by: lorien1973 at April 09, 2009 12:09 PM (IhQuA)

7 Brainwashing doesn't turn its' succeptible victims into drooling idiots, it turns them into Progressives.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 09, 2009 12:10 PM (ZGhSv)

8 According to Rassmussen's poll today... Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided.

When information is censored, scary things can happen.

Posted by: Doc at April 09, 2009 12:10 PM (tqHDd)

9 That's what you get when you are too lazy to paraphrase the Dem talking points after they deliver them.

Posted by: Vic at April 09, 2009 12:10 PM (f6os6)

10 5
Journalism has been dead for a long time.

A point that comes up in my household very often, in part because there's a journalist in the extended family.

(He was part of the generation which was getting journalism degrees just around the time Woodward and Bernstein were breaking the Watergate story.)

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 09, 2009 12:12 PM (5uSdS)

11 #8

It's a rhetorical question, but how on earth can anyone be "undecided" on whether they favor capitalism or socialism? Translation really means: "I'm a dunce who doesn't really know what those terms mean." In other words, a great percentage of voting Americans.

Posted by: Twinks at April 09, 2009 12:15 PM (+2eXr)

12 What a coincidence!
Headline from the Salt Lake City Deseret News (April 8th)-
"1/3 Uninsured in 2007-2008" by James Thalman

"A third of Utahns under age 65 were without medical insurance at some
point during the past two years — more than twice the percentage
estimated by local health care policy analysts and advocates — a
national health care policy reform group reported Tuesday."
"These numbers were very high even before the economic downturn," Ron
Pollack, executive director of Families USA, said in a Tuesday conference
call announcing the results of the health policy and advocacy group's
survey showing that one in three Americans were without insurance, at least
temporarily, during the time studied. Best estimates by the Utah Department
of Health, as well as others working on reform in Utah, have estimates
close to one in 10.

So the Utah Department of Health estimates that one in ten are uninsured, but Families USA say that the true number is one in three? ............Huh?

Posted by: elliot m at April 09, 2009 12:16 PM (13Ugm)

13 I wonder what the next item on the agenda could be.

Posted by: huerfano at April 09, 2009 12:18 PM (knHvu)

14 Just a fluke.
Move on, nothing to see hear.

Posted by: Cowboy at April 09, 2009 12:20 PM (tGClb)

15 *here*
I'm an English teacher...I think spelling errors must be contagious. Contage-us? Cundagis?

Posted by: Cowboy at April 09, 2009 12:22 PM (tGClb)

16 11... I generally trust Rasmussen, but I am curious how the question was worder myself. It seems that unless it was defined for respondents, you could get screwey results. Though the definition may lead people down a path as well, so it is a loaded question.

But working with students who always bring every topic we discuss back to equity arguments (whether they realize it or not), I can kind of seehow this kind of result would happen (though that is just a hypothetic personal observation.

Posted by: Doc at April 09, 2009 12:26 PM (tqHDd)

17 Big Labor needs Universal Healthcare. As they wear away what little tread is left on monopolized labor truck, the corporations won't be around to pick up the tabs anymore. The corporations where their labor supply is monopolized will go bankrupt. The bond holders will get paid. The pensions will get paid to only those workers that are guaranteed to get them. The healthcare promises will disappear along with the firms themselves.

This is a huge story. Families USA has put out a full court press at the worst time. The Tea Parties are going to use this against them.

Monopolized labor is bad for every worker outside of the union.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 09, 2009 12:27 PM (AHrTm)

18 15... Judging by what I wrote in 16,it seems spelling mistakes and typing poorly is contagious

Posted by: Doc at April 09, 2009 12:27 PM (tqHDd)

19 Keith Hennessey gives us an analysis of what these numbers really mean.
The question isn't "How many people do not have health insurance?" Rather, he says, it should be "How many people without health insurance need help from the taxpayers?"
Of course, most people won't read into the fantasy behind the numbers been thrown out in the MSM.

Posted by: Home of Joe Biden at April 09, 2009 12:28 PM (mN3EM)

20 WhornoList

Posted by: I sea kittens at April 09, 2009 12:34 PM (bAL0J)

21 99% of uninsured can buy private health insurance if they want to pay for it. It's very cheap and you can sign up online. Now, illegal aliens might have trouble getting coverage.

Posted by: Thinker at April 09, 2009 12:37 PM (+sBB4)

22 I work in healthcare. If I had a dollar for every time I was asked if I could "help" someone get on disability, because they hate their job but need the health insurance, I could buy 10 bushels of free range arugula.
There's alot of stupid, lazy people out there that think the world owes them shit...and they all vote Dem.
We're fucked.

Posted by: Ruckus at April 09, 2009 12:40 PM (o5vMm)

23 We shouldn't be too harsh on these media outlets - they are just trying to earn the federal subsidies headed their way.

Posted by: Bald Ninja at April 09, 2009 12:43 PM (4pdbX)

24 Just looked it up. Can buy private health insurance for 22 yo male for $34 per month - $1 per day.

Posted by: Thinker at April 09, 2009 12:45 PM (+sBB4)

25 An uninformed and ignorant electorate is not a "democracy".

Mobocracy; A condition in which the lower classes of a nation control public affairs without respect to law, precedents, or vested rights.

So we have a media that acts as an arm of the government, increasingly corrupt elections, distant and out of touch politico's and a citizenry that votes out of a profound ignorance.

Can the American Republic survive for long in these conditions?

Posted by: Travis at April 09, 2009 12:46 PM (OceZj)

26 Astroturf!

Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 12:49 PM (t5YAE)

27 Thinker

Health insurance that costs one dollar a day is almost worthless. Decent insurance is more like $200-300 for a young male. Mine costs $500/month.

Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 12:51 PM (t5YAE)

28 Blue Cross coverage $1 day. You may be overpaying. Your 'ass' may have special medical needs, however

Posted by: Thinker at April 09, 2009 12:52 PM (+sBB4)

Posted by: rockhead at April 09, 2009 12:52 PM (DvaIL)

30 There's your answer to what happens when Heritage or the AEI sends out a study.

Posted by: rockhead at April 09, 2009 12:52 PM (DvaIL)

31 "/can we call them the Pravda media now?"

NO! Don't call them that -- it's an insult to Soviet journalists.

Seriously, remember the important difference: the Soviets were forced to be government propagandists, but our douchebag journalists volunteer.

Posted by: Kensington at April 09, 2009 12:53 PM (fThxX)

32 I've got an idea. Let's strike a deal with N.Korea.
We give them our 33% of adults under 30 who think that socialism would be a pretty nifty thing to try. Free of charge! Enjoy your new population! Do with them as you please.
In five years, we check back with N.Korea. We offer to take these people back, but in exchange for getting to return them,NK mustcease all attempts at developing nuclear technology a successful ICBM.

Posted by: reason at April 09, 2009 12:53 PM (sPO/s)

33 32:I've got an idea. Let's strike a deal with N.Korea.
We give them our 33% of adults under 30 who think that socialism would be a pretty nifty thing to try.
Yes, but can you convince the Dead Kennedys to update "Holiday in Cambodia"?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2009 12:56 PM (3K4hn)

34 But working with students who always bring every topic we discuss back to equity arguments

Meaning? Link?

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at April 09, 2009 12:57 PM (kIjlp)

35 Yeah,we obviously need a new fairness doctrine because Rush can talk unchallenged for three hours a day.

Posted by: Mal at April 09, 2009 12:58 PM (Z+SaL)

36 The funny thing (or sad - can't decide) about this thing is that I would really go out on a limb and say that not a single editor of any of these rags would be the least bit embarrassed about the fact that they've just outed themselves as being nothing more than lazy f-ck enabling automatonic, sychophants wholly sold out to the '1'.
I'm sure their advertisers are impressed with their integrity and work ethic.

Posted by: Kae Gregory at April 09, 2009 01:01 PM (RkRxq)

37 Heritage studies don't mean anything you nut, they are full of silly things like citations and facts. Citations and facts don't make people feel good, crazy.

Posted by: MANstreammedia at April 09, 2009 01:01 PM (5q/vg)

38 34 But working with students who always bring every topic we discuss back to equity argumentsMeaning? Link?
Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at April 09, 2009 12:57 PM (kIjlp)
Uh, why would he have or needa link to his personal experience? Do you back up your anecdotal observations of events at your place of work with a fucking link?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 09, 2009 01:02 PM (wgLRl)

39 OT, but this really sucks: 22-year-old Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart was killed last night in a hit-and-run car accident.

Posted by: Monty at April 09, 2009 01:02 PM (/0a60)

40 It all boils down to definitions.
What is "worthless" health insurance? What is "decent?" What did your state legislators toss in there? In NY, we have no choice. Our legislators have mandated coverage for things like mamograms and children's physicals, so all health insurance is expensive here. Want catastrophic coverage only, and willing to pay for everything else out of pocket? You cannot buy that coverage in New York at any price.
On topic, since most young people are woefully uneducated (well indoctrinated, but lacking in facts and with poor reasoning ability), it's not surprising that many picked socialism. Those who want to live off the work of others will always choose socialism. I'm surprised that capitalism prevailed. It may have moved more people from poverty than all other systems combined, but it's messy and there are losers. No wonder it's unpopular, it's too much like life.

Posted by: MarkD at April 09, 2009 01:03 PM (MMy4A)

41 Why even have "newspapers"? Why not just have goverment newsletters? The media in this country is bought and paid for anyway.

Posted by: Terri at April 09, 2009 01:06 PM (5EiNc)

42 I'm posting this everywhere I can.
These articles are completely misleading.
They talk about the "uninsured", with no mention of what sort of healthcare IS available.

Louisiana has a Charity Hospital system, with healthcare available to the "uninsured" statewide.
http://www.lsuhospitals.org/default.htm

From their website:
Louisiana State University operates eight hospitals, which are managed by the Health Care Services Division. Combined, the LSU facilities admit 50,000 patients annually, and they provide nearly 1.2 million outpatient visits, around 70 percent of which are clinic visits.
Mission-driven to care for the uninsured and provide training opportunities for future health professionals, LSU HCSD is a statewide safety net system in which everyone is eligible for care.

LSU hospitals, in providing the majority of care to the uninsured patients in the state, support other community facilities by protecting them from a greater share of uncompensated care.

Posted by: Reine at April 09, 2009 01:08 PM (0V+eT)

43 Markie Marxist sez: "Our Marxist command and control network is pretty impressive, huh? We own America! Ha! Ha!"

Posted by: Chas at April 09, 2009 01:12 PM (yjDfo)

44 What are you implying?
Signed, The Democrat Party The Media

Posted by: Steve L. at April 09, 2009 01:12 PM (T6hME)

45 I think its funny that they cite themselves as a source for their own study. It's this kind of circular citation that is routinely practiced in academia to get a point that has little validity into the mainstream consciousness.

Posted by: thegreatsatan at April 09, 2009 01:18 PM (/6/Wj)

46 All of your headlines are belong to us!

Posted by: Ministry of Propaganda at April 09, 2009 01:18 PM (ADQ8H)

47 And they wonder why they're disappearing.

I still think back to that douche who said we'd miss the newspapers when they're gone, because no one else can provide the hard-hitting coverage of local events like school board meetings. But now and again, it's good to have a reminder that the newsmen don't really care about the local shit. They care about pet issues and reporting on "studies" which require a minimal amount of reporting/work.

It will be a great day when the few remaining papers will all plaster the same human-interest tearjerker concerning all the unemployed journalists forced to suck dick for pocket change.

Posted by: bunny boy at April 09, 2009 01:19 PM (YsSn7)

48 On cue ...

Posted by: bill-tb at April 09, 2009 01:20 PM (7evkT)

49 Minitrulives and is kicking the crap out of Simon Jester.
What they are not thinking about is Mob Rule, it never ends well because once you form a mob it can be taken away from you.

Posted by: Veeshir at April 09, 2009 01:20 PM (zXUuJ)

50 Very nicely done by Mr Ross and I'm glad to see the work done. he also demolishes the 47 million uninsured lie very well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 09, 2009 01:22 PM (PQY7w)

51 Welcome one and all to the wonderful world that will be with the birth of the newest has been superpower the wait for it;
Union of Socialist States of Ameribama

with the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia heralding the charge.

God help us :-)

Posted by: Jesus at April 09, 2009 01:24 PM (GqLIg)

52 Every so often the National Education Association (NEA)publishes a study about teachers salaries in the United States. Invariably, newspapers in about 25 states immediately publish stories bemoaning the fact that their state's teachers make below the national average.

Posted by: Matt at April 09, 2009 01:24 PM (ecpMe)

53 At the same time that The Won is pushing TARP money on the insurance industry?

Surely a mere coincidence.

Posted by: mojo at April 09, 2009 01:31 PM (g1cNf)

54 Every so often the National Education Association (NEA)publishes a study about teachers salaries in the United States. Invariably, newspapers in about 25 states immediately publish stories bemoaning the fact that their state's teachers make below the national average.
That's what I love about my state. The starting, as in zero experience, salary is about $10,000 about the state's median salary. Yet, we still hear constantly how underpaid teachers are. Of course, it nevver seems to come up that teachers work 9 months as compared to 12 months for the rest of us shlubs.

Posted by: Steve L. at April 09, 2009 01:32 PM (T6hME)

55 (Notmuchofa)Thinker,

You say you can get Blue Cross for a dollar a day? Bullshit! So you don't have coverage now?

Insurance at this pricepoint must have very high deductibles and not cover much, Blue Cross for most individuals is 300-500/month for low deductibles/total coverage. There are plenty of instances of folks who had cheap health insurance and discovered that when they got really sick (cancer, major surgery, therapy, PET scans) it didn't cover!

By the way, I received your private email, I am sending you to a specialist in your area that can help you with that anal wart problem. Talking out of your ass is clearly aggravating the situation, so cut it out. Also, ask you partners to use more lube and take it easy in the meantime.

Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 01:32 PM (t5YAE)

56 Then they can freelance!Or get jobs with the Administration (something that's already started to happen).

Posted by: andycanuck at April 09, 2009 01:33 PM (ws1tw)

57 CornhOlist.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 09, 2009 01:41 PM (ws1tw)

58 You can probably get BCBS for about a dollar a day as a 22 year old in some states. It will be very little coverage, but you'll get a BCBS card with a group number and policy number.

But this is just the point. Most of the tax waste comes from the failure of the 47 million to procure the most basic coverage that can supply them with at the least a bi-annual checkup with a Physician. Some probably don't need it as they lead pretty healthy lives anyway. But even they are prone to random catastrophic events.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 09, 2009 01:42 PM (AHrTm)

59 assman, I see why you need so much coverage. Take your meds man.

Seriously, he proved my point that 99% of 'uninsured' people can get health insurance if they want to pay for it - ranging from $34 a month to $500 per month, depending on your situation.

Posted by: Thinker at April 09, 2009 01:43 PM (+sBB4)

60 It's very simple: this is the push towards "universal healthcare" just like the Canadians have (or at least, the ones who can't afford to come to the States to get their medical care.)

Consider, this comes on the heels of Obama toying with the idea of removing a doctor's ability to refuse to perform an abortion for non-medical reasons (conscientious object, religion, or just plain old I-Really-Don't-Want-To-Murder-A-Baby). Refusal to perform an abortion carries a threat of losing various government protections. In response, many doctors (the wonderful man who delivered my daughter, for one) would rather quit than perform an abortion.

And Obama knows this.

A sudden lack of doctors, plus all the new clamor from the MSM about health insurance equals all the impetus he needs to call it a crisis. And we've all seen how the Obama administration behaves in a crisis.

Posted by: The Famous Mo-Pissed Off Conservative at April 09, 2009 01:49 PM (lb7J0)

61 Uh, why would he have or needa link to his personal experience?
A Balrog of Morgoth at April 09, 2009 01:02

I'm just asking what equity arguments means. Jeezus, who pissed in your cornflakes?

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at April 09, 2009 02:02 PM (kIjlp)

62 thinker

someone's (post 5 opinion on what MAY BE POSSIBLE proves exactly nothing, show your facts that you can get blue cross for a dollar a day, you simply can not, consider this a challenge, show your links! otherwise give it up and we will chalk it up to you talking out of your ass, you say you are what 24yo? have you ever bought health insurance?

do you not know any small businessmen who buy their own insurance? obviously not





Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 02:26 PM (t5YAE)

63 I'm just asking what equity arguments means
This is an equity argument: "It's not fair! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!' (pouts, tears up, stomps off in a huff).
Easy to win arguments this way if your opponent is dumb enough to let you determine what's 'fair'.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 09, 2009 02:33 PM (ERJIu)

64 "99% of uninsured can buy private health insurance if they want to pay for it. It's very cheap and you can sign up online. Now, illegal aliens might have trouble getting coverage."

I never disputed that 99% can GET insurance, the issue is that 99% can not AFFORD it! unless they wish to give up food or rent...

Obviously, some smaller percentage CAN afford it but the high cost does leave alot of hard working, low earning folks without the ability to pay.




Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 02:37 PM (t5YAE)

65 I ran some online insurance comparisons in Alabama for a 22 y/o male nonsmoker and couldn't find better than $77/month for a high deductable plan so I don't know about a dollar a day.

Interesting though that Humana has a $3k deductable 0 copay for as little as $125/month.

Posted by: toby928 at April 09, 2009 02:41 PM (PD1tk)

66 from US News and world report:

http://tiny.cc/ZN2mh

Average Single Healthcare Premiums Jump More Than 25 Percent Since 2003
A recent report tracks the costs of healthcare for the last five years. The first of a two-part series
Posted April 1, 2009
$4,704 — Average annual premium for singe healthcare coverage in 2008
$4,479 — Average for singe healthcare coverage in 2007
$4,242 — Average in 2006
$4,024 — Average in 2005
$3,695 — Average in 2004

http://tiny.cc/ZN2mh

Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 02:50 PM (t5YAE)

67 $4,704 — Average annual premium for singe healthcare coverage in 2008

so the average single premium is $392/month

Posted by: Assman at April 09, 2009 02:53 PM (t5YAE)

68 Families USA.

Debt Slavery... For the Children.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 09, 2009 02:59 PM (tlCdo)

69 guess what folks, there is a law in this country that NO ONE can be turned away from a hospital for inablity to pay, they are legally obligated to treat every human being that walks thur their doors. the myth of millions of ppl having no access to medical care is a flat out lie.

Posted by: shoey at April 09, 2009 03:02 PM (IRh55)

70 100% unsurprising.
Newsrooms do this all the time - they receive some press release with a juicy headline and just run with the narrative presented (if it's one to their liking).
No one checks the facts. No one questions agendas (so long as it's from a left wing group). It's an easy story ... free. No additional work required..

Posted by: Warden at April 09, 2009 03:03 PM (QoR4a)

71 One more thing ... journalists LOVE statistics. And no one ever checks the methodology.

Posted by: Warden at April 09, 2009 03:04 PM (QoR4a)

72 >"The Curious Case of 200 Nearly Identical Media Headlines"

The Right-Wing Echo Chamber strikes again!


Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at April 09, 2009 03:12 PM (5Rrm3)

73 C'mon, Ace. You're way too cynical. They would be all over a Heritage study the way Pinch was on Augusta over sexism a few years ago.

Posted by: RM at April 09, 2009 03:18 PM (GkYyh)

74 It would be interested if they suspended all healthcare regulations for 5 years, just 5 years. I wonder what the market would like after it sorted itself out?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 09, 2009 03:18 PM (FO+YO)

75 I wonder what the left wingliberals (90% on welfare of some sort)will do when the government money runs out. In case anyone is not watching, the government is now operating on China's money and they are getting wise to the democrat spending plans. I think that's why M.O. was practicing in the soup kitchen, it's coming to your neighborhood sooner than you think.

Posted by: Scrapiron at April 09, 2009 03:24 PM (1kwr2)

76 This AMAZING coincidence of 200 newspaper headlines all saying exactly the same thing is obviously excellent fodder for the Jon Stewart show, and no doubt Mr. Stewart will be devoting a segment to it tonight, complete with that hilariously wry "I'm shocked, shocked!" look on his face that we've all come to know and love. Yes, it will be tonight. Or tomorrow night at the latest. I don't get cable so one of you cockholsters will have to DVR it for me. I wouldn't want to miss it.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 09, 2009 03:25 PM (FO+YO)

77 Preparing the battlefield .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 09, 2009 03:31 PM (d0YiG)

78 Armed with the proper email list, and suitably left sounding name, I don't think it would be hard to prank the MSM...since fact checking seems to be such a low priority.

Posted by: DngrMse at April 09, 2009 03:50 PM (z4ycv)

79 C'mon, Ace. You're way too cynical. They would be all over a Heritage study the way Pinch was on Augusta over sexism a few years ago.
Yeah I think that's true. I can even see the start of the articles: "Conservative organization has claimed..." First establish that they have a bias to one way. Then you make it so they are only making a claim making the factual information easier for them to argue against.

Posted by: buzzion at April 09, 2009 03:54 PM (Lrsi6)

80 By the way, can someone tell me when exactly "all the healthcare you will ever need for nothing more out of pocket than a $25 copay" became an inalienable right, granted by our Creator?
Insurance, to me, has always been a legalized form of gambling. It is a bet that, someday, you are going to need some sort of major surgery, or fall victim to some sort of major illness, or get maimed in some sort of serious accident. Not purchasing health insurance is a bet that you will never have any of these sorts of occurances happen to you. The varying levels of coverage are all adjustments on just how much you're willing to bet on...
If you want healthcare, figure out a way to buy it! Just like, if you want a car, you will figure out a way to buy it. Healthcare is a purchased service, just like any other. I am sorry to be so callous and cold on the matter, as I am well aware that there are instances where this system fails...
These commercials that I have seen recently, where you have healthy-looking 20somethings talking in shock and horror about how they suddenly had a major illness sneak up on them out of nowhere, the incredulty and unfairness that they either had no healthcare coverage, or that their plan didn't cover their bizzare sudden illness, and the sadness that they had to declare bankruptcy because they couldn't ever hope to pay off their $50,000 medical bills...these commercials anger me, because they give such a tiny slice of such a larger story...You rolled the dice and decided to not get health insurance, and instead blow your money on other tangible things that must mean more to you. Oops, you lost the bet.
-OR-You opted to simply accept whatever the cheapest plan your employer offered at face value, and didn't bother to actually read up on what kinds of coverage you were buying. Or you did, and decided that the bare-bones plan would be enough. Oops, you lost the bet.
Few things incense me, and bring out Puppy-Hating Evil Republican Hulk Reason quite like the sense of entitlement that surrounds healthcare. I typed out a huge rant just now, but I'll CTRL-X it and keep it to myself...

Posted by: reason at April 09, 2009 04:10 PM (q/kmn)

81
If all 200 papers publish the same shit, who needs 200 papers? Sounds like one would be enough. And if all it's going to do is publish lefty propaganda unquestioned, then the right number is zero.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 09, 2009 04:50 PM (VrNoa)

82 Just think, the Boston Globe unions want to protect lifetime job guarantees for fax clerks, typists who copy and paste ACORN emails, and the vaunted journalist who inserts his byline.

I don't know if the 20 layers of editors are union or management though.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2009 04:54 PM (miw86)

83 Another reason that Teleprompter wants open borders and amnesty. Once price and salary caps, regulations, and malpractice premiums drive our current practitioners out, he'll need floods of Indian and Pakistani doctors to tend to the mob of illegals waiting in the clinics for their free health care.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2009 04:56 PM (miw86)

84 "A third of Utahns under age 65 were without medical insurance at some
point during the past two years"

I love how there's always a time condition in these stat citations too. I'm going to be in the Ohio stats for 2008 for the same thing. For about one and a half to two months last year I was without insurance because I quit my job to go back to school, and the new insurance plan didn't follow when I was done like the old one did (they changed companies and payment scheme). I figured the two months was fine until the required school insurance picked me up.

I'd be interested to see how much of the numbers cited are from people like me, and how many are from people who didn't have insurance for the entire duration.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at April 09, 2009 05:12 PM (VNi6L)

85 The new American Pravda machine at it's finest.

Posted by: paranoid polly at April 09, 2009 05:23 PM (YLNjm)

86 Insurance at this pricepoint must have very high deductibles and not cover much,

So?

When I was changing jobs a while back, I faced a gap of about two months between the time my previous insurance stopped, and the time my new insurance took full effect.

I bought Blue Cross temporary insurance on-line with a high deductible ($5,000, I think). It cost about $150 for two or three months of coverage, if I remember right.

Here's the deal: I made a rational purchasing decision, based on my health (which is excellent) and a worst-case scenario (owing $5,000 in medical bills would suck, but would not be a life-ruining event). If my health or financial situation had been different, I could have chosen another policy (there were dozens to choose from). All insurance is gambling -- I made my bet after weighing the expected health-care costs for the period ($0) and the maximum health-care costs ($5,000).

Complaining that full-coverage, low-deductible insurance is expensive is somewhat naive. Of COURSE it's expensive. Insurance companies charge enough to cover all their costs, plus make a profit on top. They're not friggin' charities. The medical care doesn't suddenly become free just because you have insurance. You (or more accurately, a pool of people just like you) pay for every penny of it, and then some.

That's not going to change when the government takes over. The only difference is that you'll no longer have the choice that I did. It'll be one-size-fits all.

And that's going to suck ass.

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