1 Well, best of luck, and I admire your reasons - but to paraphrase:
Looks like you picked the wrong day to quit smoking.

2 Quitting is easy I do it every day.

3

Im in..been looking for an excuse, and this looks like a good-un

Will be with you cold turkey, tried everything else, they didnt work. Hobo poulation might go down a bit that first week or so, tho.

Kane

4 I like the Comrade idea, but the "K" is too hard core for me. This is American style fascism/socialism/communism - it comes with a smiley face!

(as in Goldberg's Liberal Fascism - you still haven't read it? It's the manual for our glorious future!)

5 How will my taxes to fund my side businesses Early Day Care get funded in CA?

6 I am going to start smoking, but only smuggled cigarettes.

7 Hey! How will this fund MY business' bailout?! RACIST!

8 Just don't give up sniffing glue

9 Amen, Kane. I predict a sharp decline in the hobo population, not to mention the stock of Valu-Rite, around these parts in ten days.

10 Commit Lozenge: worked for me bud. Good luck.

11 I remember some town hall talk show back in the 90s when Ratface Waxman was on to scream loudly about the EEEEEVVVILLL tobacco companies, all the millions of people they killed, and how they were going to kill us all unless Ratface himself took charge of the problem

An audience member asked "Congressman, you've told us quite a bit. Why don't you have tobacco banned?

Waxman's face went blank and he stuttered, "well, we don't want to infringe on people's free choices"

12 Here's my more complete list

Don't quit drinking.
 Do quit smoking.
Don't quit sniffing glue.

Don't  quit amphetamines

13 I've cut my smoking in half, but I now want to work towards cutting it completely. Not only very expensive, I'm starting to worry seriously about heart issues

14 I quit smoking about 5 years ago; I used microwave popcorn for the hand-to-mouth cravings. It was effective, but five years later I am now addicted to the Pop Secret... I need to find a "butter patch."

15 Umm. here in southern virginny, a fair amount of tobaccy farmer's are black. If we tax tobaccy so much, that it's no longer a lucrative enterprise, then how do we keep from disenfranchishing said black's who depend on that lucrative enterprprise to put food on the table?

A bit of a conundrum perhap's ?

16 Grow your own

17 That's unpatriotic.

Smoke your cigarettes, pay your taxes.

18 12 Here's my more complete list

Don't quit drinking.
 Do quit smoking.
Don't quit sniffing glue.

Don't  quit amphetamines

SURELY you don't expect to do all that

19 Don't all you guys quit! Who am I going to bum a Kool off of?

20 @18 12 Here's my more complete list

Don't quit drinking.
 Do quit smoking.
Don't quit sniffing glue.

Don't  quit amphetamines

SURELY you don't expect to do all that

I will do that, and DON'T call me Shirley

21 Are you sure that's a stogie Mr Sullivan? I don't taste any smoke

22

Tax-free cigarettes with the Golden Dollar logo coming soon to a gulch near you.

23 Somewhat related: Has anyone calculated somewhere what the new "Tax Freedom Day" is?  Recently, it's been in May, but I'm wondering how pushed back it will be henceforth. . . .

24 The patch works for me...every time I quit smoking.  Actually, the first time I quit (for 6 years) it was cold turkey.  The couple times after that was with the patch.

It works, but I always seem to find a reason to go back after a year or so.

25 I will do that, and DON'T call me Shirley

It's your show now, you're the head honcho, the big cheese, numero uno

26 I'm in.

I'll quit.

27 I think Tax Freedom Day is April 13th this year.  Prob'ly comes early because of the $13 a week tax cut we're getting.  I hope it's paying for someone's increased tobacco taxes.

28 Somewhat related: Has anyone calculated somewhere what the new "Tax Freedom Day" is?  Recently, it's been in May, but I'm wondering how pushed back it will be henceforth. . . .

When our great-grandchildren dig America out of the debt that Obama is foisting upon our children and grandchildren.

Or 2010, when we might have a chance to stop or repeal some of it.

29 Seems like the Black, er, uh, African American Market will thrive this year on tobacco sales alone.

What happens when the S-CHIP program doesn't receive enough funding from tobacco tax?

A tax on alcohol?

Maybe Barry should think seriously about legalizing marijuana so he can tax the bat snot out of it too.

30
Can anyone help me with my drinking problem?

31 Took the Chantix for one month (instead of the recommended 3 month course) and quit.  I have had 2 drags in 14 months, so I can tell you that it worked for me.  Funny thing is, I quit because of the taxes and it's pretty much the only reason I quit.  I really liked smoking and I still miss it.  Like sticking it to the man even more.

32

27 I think Tax Freedom Day is April 13th this year.  Prob'ly comes early because of the $13 a week tax cut we're getting.  I hope it's paying for someone's increased tobacco taxes.

--I can't believe it makes that much a difference.  Even so, enjoy it while it's this early . . . I ecpect it to be puched into June for those who are not utter freeloaders.

33 I think of cigarettes like cigars. One in the morning, one after lunch, one after dinner.That's about a pack a week. Been doing that for about two years. I refuse to believe that level of moderation can be harmful.

Plus, each cigarette is far more relaxing and enjoyable than just puffing one every hour or so.

34 I quit drinking every time I fall asleep, or pass out.

35
How much you wanna bet there will be a nicotine tax imposed on us in the near future? Can't let you quitters get away without paying your fair share, you know.

36 Well, if nothing else the Indians will benefit from the new tobacco (and maybe alcohol too?) traffic.  I know I take advantae of the duty free stores when I can, but then I'm in Canada so I'm used to high taxes --and it's pretty damn ominous when you read op-eds predicting the average tax load will be lower north of the 49th than below for the first time in decades. . . .

37 Bart: Are you guys crooks?
Fat Tony: Bart.. uhm. Is it it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
Bart: No..
Fat Tony: Well suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Nuh-uh
Fat Tony: And what if your family don't like bread. They like.. cigarettes.
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away.. you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell no!

38 15 Umm. here in southern virginny, a fair amount of tobaccy farmer's are black. If we tax tobaccy so much, that it's no longer a lucrative enterprise, then how do we keep from disenfranchishing said black's who depend on that lucrative enterprprise to put food on the table?

Over here in SE Michigan, a fair amount of auto workers are black. If we drive the auto industry into the ground, how do we keep from disenfranchising said blacks who depend on the auto industry to put food on the table?

39

I second using Commit.  Loved the cherry flavor ones then one day I bought the Cappuccino flavor.  Mild and soothing and doesn't interfere with my  coffee.  Commit was the only reason I was able to quit smoking.

But I am now addicted to Commit Cappuccino.  I always have them with me.  It's my security blanket.  So actually I quit smoking, I just didn't give up nicotine.

I miss smoking, but I feel great.  Best of luck.

40 Don't all you guys quit! Who am I going to bum a Kool off of?
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 05, 2009 09:49 PM (miw86)

Reggie Love

41 Once they figure that tax receipts from cigarette sales suck, they'll tax booze more (already doing that in most states), "unhealthy foods" (also being done or considered in most states)

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet

42 You could always buy cigarettes from one of those online Indian reservation sellers. You can buy three cartons for what you pay now for one. No taxes on them, either. You do have to pay shipping.

43 When I quit eight years ago, I used the patch, acupuncture, herbs, and a really nasty case of bronchitis. I still crave it every day, but I never want to go through quitting again.

44 But I am now addicted to Commit Cappuccino.  I always have them with me.  It's my security blanket.  So actually I quit smoking, I just didn't give up nicotine.

My ultimate goal, of course, to give up nicotine. While at the same time giving President Oteleprompter the finger.

But, I'll turn to things like that if it gets really hard. Which, given my hatred for what's happening to our country, I don't really think it will be that hard.

Welcome, LiveFreeOrDie. Best of luck on our shared journey.

45 You'll run out of things to quit long before the government runs out of things to tax.

46 No taxes on them, either. You do have to pay shipping.

Technically you are reimporting from a sovereign entity and you are responsible for paying the taxes on it.  And, hell yes, the gubmint will come for it's money.  Michigan went after smokers awhile back and people were getting hit for bills in the thousands.  After all, there's interest and penalties you know. 

47 AliceH, there's a girl I work with who quit because she's pregnant. She's dying for a smoke, but when I told her the price of cigarettes with the new taxes tacked on, she's sworn off for good. Go look at the prices now, you'd be surprised compared to even 8 years ago.

48 About 20 days ago I went to get a pack of cigarettes and the price had gone up almost a dollar. I then read that cigarette manufacturers had jacked up the price ahead of the imposition of the tax to prevent people from stocking up in advance. I walked out of the store and decided to quit that day. I am ready to crawl the walls and start smoking the carpet but I will be damned if I pay that new tax.

49 I quit over a year ago, not had one puff. Still sort of miss it. I quit cold turkey after several attempts after smoking for 20 years, starting when I was 12 (what can I say, I'm English and I needed something to take the smell of beer off my breath). Couple of keys :

1) Don't quit for like 3 days, and think you can have a quick puff because you managed to stay clean for a few days. A quick puff will become one cigarette which will turn into a whole pack, that turns into a pack a day etc...

2) The key is to learn how to do everything without having a cigarette in your hand. Driving, watching tv etc.. I used to love putting the kid to bed, coming down stairs, making a coffee, having a cig, reading ace with my coffee. I learned to do it without smoking.  At work, I'd fix a problem in some code, and normally, go for a cigarette, I had to learn to reject those, Ah, I'll just go for a cigarette moments. You keep finding yourself having that instinctual urge to reach for a cigarette and then you'll catch yourself "Ah, I don't smoke anymore'. It's like that for the first few months, but only the first couple of weeks is where you are really craving it.

3) Try whyquit.com - it's a bit preachy and feel good (kind of like AoS ;-), but it has a number of scary stories, tips, hints and so on (just like this AoS).

I went flying a kite with my son the other day, he let go, I had to leg it after the kite, caught up with it and realized I wasn't out of breath. I'm  fucking James Bond I am.

Oh, and sticking it to the man is aaaawesome!

50 Quit or not quit , these vermin will be hunting us soon no matter what you do

51

Technically you are reimporting from a sovereign entity and you are responsible for paying the taxes on it.  And, hell yes, the gubmint will come for it's money.  Michigan went after smokers awhile back and people were getting hit for bills in the thousands.  After all, there's interest and penalties you know.

Yikes! Well, maybe that isn't an option for most. I live in a state where I can drive to a reservation in less than two hours. I've bought smokes there before when I was passing through. Super cheap and paid in cash. No way can they track that transaction.

52

I quit smoking years ago after a zillion abortive attempts. Finally succeeded using a combination of hypnosis and nicotine gum. It sounds like you're committed to trying cold turkey, but if you're one of those people who need to smoke their 1st cigarette within a half hour of waking up, consider starting off with the gum or lozenge.

Good luck! Quitting's rough, but you won't believe how much better you feel once you succeed.

Oh, my other tip: Get a big ass jar and, every day, deposit the $ you would've spent on your habit. It's a good motivator and you'll have a real nice slush fund in a few months.

53 Chantix works and you don't have to even want to quit.

But if you don't quit, smoke roll your owns.  $3.50 for a pack of Drum and you can get 40 smokes out of it. You can probably get Top or Bugler for $1.50. Great tasting tobacco too.

54 When I was about 12 years old I remember my step dad quit smoking, he went cold turkey as well, but he also did this: Every time he had the urge to smoke, he instead ate a pickled jalapeno. The burning in his mouth distracted him so much from the urge to smoke he ended up forgetting about it altogether.

55
I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay for some political hack's pension, or pay for Obama's trips on AF-1. Fuck them.

56

I quit for good many years ago by using two techniques:

1. Got shitfaced drunk New Years Eve and smoked a whole pack (normally I smoked about 3 packs per week).  Next morning (I think it was the next morning...) I didn't want no cigarettes, and that helped get me started on cold turkey.  I was never the type to roll out of bed and light up anyway.

2. Listened to my kid.  I was showing her how to look both ways before crossing the street to be safe, and she looked up at me and asked me, so how come you smoke, Daddy?  As they say, out of the mouths of babes.

Actually #1 was a response to #2.

57

The sad thing about this is when the Republicans retake control of the government, they won't repeal the tax.

58 Dose this tax include cigars?

59 Dose this tax include cigars?

Yup.  I believe some of those went up even higher.

60

I am not going to let these bastards beat me down into compliance. I WILL continue smoking. I will also do everything in my power to avoid giving the gobberment a single penny because of it.

I already buy from the injuns. Now I'm going out looking for actual smugglers. Everything black-market tastes better anyway.

Resistance through organized crime!

61

I used Chantix to kick a 25+ year habit.  Really knocked down about 90% of the cravings.  I only had to take it a month and I cannot recommend it enough.

62 Seems like I heard somewhere a couple of weeks ago, maybe even here at moronville, that the vaunted Obama $13 per week tax cut was going into affect in March. You can't tell by looking at my checks cause they always vary due to me being all workaholic and shit and picking up all the extra hours I can get, but my wife's on salary and her check remains constant. Best I can tell her check increased by $1.65 last month. Now I've got a BS in Mathematics, but even if I didn't I'd be pretty sure that $1.65 per month is not the same as $13 per week. Surely that cocksucker wasn't lying to us. Surely not. But anyway, we're gonna get busy stimulating the shit out of the economy with that extra $1.65. I'd invest in Hershey stock if I was y'all. An extra Reece's or two per month may change the world.  

63
Yup.  I believe some of those went up even higher.

oh...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2r3a4o2.jpg

64 Did they tax pole, too?

65 Good luck to you future former smokers who really just want 30 year old kids to die.

66

I'm in. I won't have one before I go to the "tea party" and no more after it.

Why can't we have a big old beer party instead. Tea party sound so,.. sissy-la-la.

 

67 Actually you only save the state taxes from the Injuns. Even they have to collect the federal. You are supposed to pay a "Use tax" which matches what the state would charge to the state. Good luck with that. So many people get them delivered here now the mailman has like 10 boxes every day. If they crack down you can always go to the reservation and stock up. The reservations always have great places to camp near by.

68 Vinnie you talking about the boys at Jawa? A few over there I read are quitting as well, as am I.

69 Yes Broker1, and some people off a forum I run as well.

70

Last year, my  governor, Jim (30weight) Doyle imposed a 1.00 tax on a pack of smokes, on top of the existing state and federal exise taxes.  So, I started rolling my own.  A one pound bag cost 23.00, and papers cost 3.00, and made 2 cartons and change, lasting 3 weeks. 

This year, the gov wants another 75 cents per pack, the feds tossed on 63 cents, and I laughed because I had found the loophole.  Sure, it's a bother to sit down for an hour and a half to roll a week's worth, but I watch football every Sunday, and now 24 on mondays, and the entire time I roll cigarettes, I'm taking pleasure in sticking it back to the government sideways and breaking it off.

Then somebody at work told me there would be a HUGE increase in the tax on raw tobacco, which of course I didn't believe, so I check the porkulus bill, and tucked in with the other tobacco taxes was a 2200 percent increase in the tax on bag tobacco!  what to do here..oh yeah..fucking eleventy!111!!1!1

So I got myself 11 pounds of tobacco, a whole bunch of papers, and have been slowly cutting back.  I got enough to last to my birthday in July, then it's cold turkey time for me too.

Good luck to all of you who try to quit, I am going to use my rage as a motivator.  It should work, I've got plenty.

71 This is a good idea.

I'll try it.  Maybe outrage will carry me where willpower alone couldn't.

72

Tobacco tax for SCHIP is the bait for the bait and switch.  They don't expect nor do they desire for revenues to grow from the tax, but they do want the middle class health entitlement to be put in place.

Tell people it's coming from income taxes, and they are more critical of it, tell people that you want to tax an "undesirable" behavior to pay for it, and it's ok, right?

73 Mother-in Law on Long Island has been buying her smokes from the Indians for years... until the state A.G. sued for the list of buyers and sent out BIG bills to every customer. She was so outraged, she quit. Best of luck quitting, morons.

Thousands of Ma residents travel nearby to NH for their smokes. NH has a 5 carton limit per transaction because of the volume. There is a war brewing between MA and NH over taxes. Border towns in MA are suffering terribly. Now, (are you sitting?)the two states are rushing to build the first toll booths on I-93 in a retaliatory way. Coming to a state near you.

74 #67: Here in Washington State at a tribal-owned gas station, cigs were $4.90

Just prior to April 1st they went up to $5.69 and the clerk said they were  going up another dollar after April 1st, but NOT at that shop.

Bought a pack today (after church - HA!) in Puyallup at a tribal drive-thru and they were $5.43

75 I would do commercials for Chantix for free for the rest of my life.  A 17 year can a day smokeless tobacco habit and I quit in a week. 

76

If the tax was on backbones, not a swinging dick in here would owe one cent.

Do the words "What's next" mean a damned thing at all to you? Give this up, give that up, let the nannies lead you around by your little shrivelled up nutbags. Bet you got the gas tax thing all figured out too. Subjects, is what you are.

May you live for fucking ever. In squeeky-kleen Nooterville. OUTLAW!

77 Super cheap and paid in cash. No way can they track that transaction.

*cough* _{red-light cameras} *cough*

78

_{red-light cameras}

Not in this state. They don't have them. Yet.

79 Hey -- now I got a come-back for all those firty looks:

"I'm smoking for the chiiiildren!
What in hell is the matter with you??!? Cheapskate."

80 Ripe green tobacco
About to be taxed still more
Just 'for teh children'

81

This is why I laid up a serious cigar inventory...  at my current rate, I'm good for 3 or 4 years.

Sigh.

82 Jess,
 same here.
Ma tax on cigars = 30%
NH = 0%
NH = 25 min. drive.
I also stock up on other items NOT taxed.

83

Tax Freedom Day.....in the old days, people used to call it "Christmas"....

84 http://tobaccoseed.ca/
If you plant it, it will burn.

85

Oh, and best of luck giving up the smokes!  I'm cutting back for now...will have to look into Chantix.  I've tried everything else already & haven't made it past 6 months. 

86 Chantix works. it'll be one of Pizers last inventions before Obamacare brings the Cuban medical system to America. I don't pay tobacco taxes.

I almost quit alcohol. I pay very little tax there.

I've been killing children by denighing them health care dollars for over a year now.

I fight the cocaine growers by buying expensive coffee beans.

Now that I've learned from our Treasury secretary, I cheat like a big dog on my taxes. What they don't know won't hurt them.

Work for cash when you can. Don't pay tax.

Fix your own car. Don't pay tax.

Recycle your aluminum...don't pay tax.

Buy second hand...don't pay tax.

I flip off illegals.

I buy my gas from the Indians...they don't pay some of the gas tax.

Government is NOT helping.Starve the beast.

87

I went to cigars a few years ago, then lately, roll your own, but I only smoke a few a day.

I guess I'm going to try to quit for good with the rest of you. Sucks, though.

88 Cigarettes are over $9 in NY and I don't know anyone! who stills buys them one pack at a time. Everyone has somewhere else to get their cartons from.
If you don't smoke, and you don't drink and you don't fuck, you may not live longer but it will sure feel like it.

89
Popcorn
  Said
  Fuck
  You

90 So Komrad, what are you going to replace the obligatory "after sex"cigarette with?

91 The left and the right
May mouth off at each other,
But both hate taxes.

Ditto to: 'starve the beast'

92 Smokers stick those long, hard cigarettes into their mouths, their greasy tongues flicking playfully over and around the head of the stiff filter. The inhalation of the toxic fumes stimulates their appendages, engorging them with blood.

93 So Komrad, what are you going to replace the obligatory "after sex"cigarette with?

More sex. My wife is really, really looking forward to April 15th.

94 Hey Joe! You useless piece of white shit!

Gimme a light and make it snappy!

95

I quit 15 years ago ... cold turkey.

I won't say it was easy, but i don't miss it.

 

good luck!

96

Hilarious. The envirolefties are going to be furious! They like to go to Antarctica so they can personally witness the global warming schtuff!

Now Obama says they can't.

http://tinyurl.com/ctt9ld

97 Damns, I's gonna quit slinging weed and get some cigarette plants.  Gone get some menthol ones, too.

98 What should you do if your girlfriend starts smoking?   
Slow down. And possibly use a lubricant.

99 Gee thanks, now when they don't have enough money for SCHIP they're either gonna take it out of my paycheck or run up more debt.

100

If they tax my fried chicken, I'm gonna get mine from the black market.

What's happening, sick?  Making some girlfriend jerky?

101 95

I quit 15 years ago ... cold turkey.

I quit cold turkey too, always warm it up in the microwave first

102 good luck.the only person i knew,who used chantix,said it worked great.And during that time got divorced and all kindsa fun stuff,but didnt go back.so hey  worth a try for hardcore peeps(no im not promoting it as a paid poof-boy)

103
>If they tax my fried chicken, I'm gonna get mine from the black market.
FTW!!!₁₁₁!!!

104 You're quitting smoking? Does that mean you're decided to stop being cool?

105

Good luck quitting, neocons.  Even if you're successful, I'll just make up the difference by increasing taxes on alcohol.

Think you can give that up after I've completed my plans for the country?  Didn't think so.

106 government run health insurance to children up to age 30.

30?  Bah!  Wisconsin covers any childless adult who doesn't qualify for Medicare, within income guidelines.

107 The SOcial MarketPlace (SOMP) reality is politicians and their SCHIP program don't provide health care -- health care providers choose who gets care. 

SCHIP is little more than Medicaid program expanded to include all sorts of folks.  This doesn't change the poor reimbursement for SCHIP/Medicaid care.  Rather, it's likely to make it worse. 

As a simple exercise in how the SOMP works, call around to a few local clinics and try to set up a Medicaid/SCHIP appointment. You'll probably quickly find that most clinics have one of various policies to limit/ration the number of Medicaid/SCHIP patients they see.  Some may not see them at all, some may limit to X patients/time period, some may only provide appointments to fill in cancelations, etc, etc. 

The Medicaid reality is these programs frequently pay 40% or less of regular fees.  More than it costs to provide the care in many cases.  While politicians have no trouble paying top dollar to build roads, schools, and teach kids in poor areas, they apparently have no trouble paying 40% or less for health care.   If politicians really wanted to provide quality care to those truly in need, they'd make the unreimbursed cost of charity care tax deductible -- you'd have providers falling all over themselves to provide top notch care without the red tape rationing of Medicaid.  There would be a self limiting feature in such a system -- Providers would only provide as much care as required to end up paying little or no income taxes... 

 Expanding the number of folks on SCHIP is only going to make it harder for the truly needy to get health care, as the line to get second rate Medicaid care will be many times longer. 

So, while the politicians on the left may jump up and down for expanding SCHIP, all they've really done is make things worse for those of limited means that they supposedly care so much about.   Sad....  

On the bright side, if a lot of fools drop their regular health insurance for SCHIP taxpayer welfare coverage, it's likely to make it easier to get into see your doctor, while the SCHIP/Medicaid waiting lines will get longer and longer....   

108

i've come to believe the only way we fight this government tax spree is too bankrupt them.  therefore not only did i quit i am also going to sign jup for every program i can.  if every american signed up for all these stupid programs the gov would quickly go broke, china would quit buying our debt and the gov will fail.  Hawaii showed the way.... 

 

109 nicorette gum is pretty good

I don't smoke any more, but I still chew the gum.

chew a lot less gum than I smoked cigarettes, so it's probably less money, and certainly less stinky clothes, house, and fewer upper respiratory viruses too.

and my kid's got asthma, so I can't smoke anyway

110 unseen, do you have suggestions for programs that actual employed, middle class people can plunder?

I mean, er, access.

111

How about those nicotine delivery sticks that ape smoking an actual cigarette? Has anyone used those? It looks like a good idea as it gives you something familiar to do with your hands and mouth. (But not "familiar" in an Andrew Sullivan way, that is.)

112 i swore I'd never be taxed into giving up my last remaining guilty pleasure but 8 bucks for a pack of cigarettes is ridiculous. I refuse to fund one more entitlement program so S-CHIP is going to have to do without my contribution. In protest, I've decided to spend all of my (now greatly increased) disposable income on decidedly non-PC purchases. This month, a Berreta Px4 Sub-Compact 9mm. Next month, something made out of baby seals.

113 do you have suggestions for programs that actual employed, middle class people can plunder?

-----------------------------

I've got THOUSANDS!!! And a fucked-up Riddler jacket!!!

114 I live an hour away from the Moapa reservation. No state or federal tax on cigs and booze.

My loophole may kill me, but at least I'll enjoy the ride.

115 Can we impeach the entire US government? There are only a few senators and representatives who are worth a crap.

116

110

I'm just starting to look into it myself.  I never thought I would even look at these programs but i think if the majority of americians start asking for a handout the governemt will soon change its tune.  After all the entire going galt movement is to stop paying the taxes to the freeloaders.  We might as well double our pleasure and not pay the taxes and have to have them pay out more which will be less money to the freeloaders. 

higher education looks like a great place to start esp with all the online course available now.  You can work and collect your $200 and pass go. 

 

 

117 I bought 2 cartons before the tax increase and plan on quitting cold turkey when those are done. It's going to be tough, but the habit has just gotten too expensive.

118 It's not my thing, but what's stopping you from growing your own tobacco?  It wards off pests, too!

You can easily make your own cigarettes with filters.

119 The internet tells me you can grow 1/10 of an acre for personal use.  Just live in the right climate or grow it indoors, and be careful to age it correctly before smoking.

Seems like this would be more popular, since smoking is so expensive.

120 I wonder at what point we start seeing a cigarette mafia and renewed underground interest in smuggling alcohol after the inevitable ultra-taxation of that.

Maybe we could be the next Kennedy's, but not let our descendants pry the money from our cold, dead hands some way so that they don't turn into liberal weenies.

121 120 Wait until that gov prop on growing consumables on your property without a licence passes.  Then, if they catch you, you'll not only have to pay back tobacco taxes, but $500,000-$1,000,000 fine and maybe jail time for growing unlicenced produce and threatening interstate commerce.

122 You know... R Ral has a point.  They are trying to take away every basic ability for independence we have.  It's been coming on since 1805, and sped up a lot in the 1930s and 1960s.  Now I don't think I can take much of it.

123

My husband promised to quit smoking after we got married-when he came home smelling like a ham house, I went to a different bedroom.  Not another cigarette touched his lips.  He never looked back, after 17 years. (And I was much happier!!)  But now, we are both cotemplating it, just trying to deal with the stress of this wretched beast of a government.  But not to fund SCHIP or any other entitlement program for the hands out brigade.  I like the idea of growing tobacco for fun and profit, but would that fall under the dreaded HR 875?  Would the government confiscate my property because I didn't grow tobacco properly?  We currently live in a former Soviet bloc country, and I can tell you, Communism RUINS a nation.  These people have been free from the Soviet Union's shackles for over twenty years, but they still walk around with dour faces, and stand in lines.  They haven't learned a thing about customer service, because that's not necessary in a command economy-you are told what you can and can't buy. The buildings they currently build look like Soviet apartment houses in three years.  The food is nasty (how much cabbage can a person eat?) and the resulting smells perfume the air on all the public transport.  Do you want that in America??  Heck no.  (Sorry, my husband gave up cigarettes, I gave up profanity.  It's just as hard, and there's no gum or lozenge for that.) Now I see my beloved country facing the prospect of becoming what the country I am living in broke free from, and I am heartbroken.  Sorry for the rant.  No curse words, no cigarettes, and we aren't allowed guns here, so no hobo hunting (although the fields are ripe.)  Pray for me.

124

Seems like I heard somewhere a couple of weeks ago, maybe even here at moronville, that the vaunted Obama $13 per week tax cut was going into affect in March.

Don't be fooled.  This isn't a tax cut.  It is a reduction in withholding.  Barring some miraculous change (i.e., a real tax cut,) you'll owe about $600 in taxes come next April.  There are rumors floating around about a $800 tax credit to offset it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

125

It might be time to quit--not for health reasons, but just to deny these bastards the additional tax money.

My beloved Winchester little cigars have gone from $2-$3 per pack to $4-$6 per pack.

Bastards.

126 Loose tobacco here in michigan went from $18 a bag to $78 or something like that. $3 a pack for ciggs. I don't smoke, but I'm outraged for the folks that do.

By my minimal math skills, that's about a 100% tax. Fuck the government. Honestly.

127

Yikes! Well, maybe that isn't an option for most. I live in a state where I can drive to a reservation in less than two hours. I've bought smokes there before when I was passing through. Super cheap and paid in cash. No way can they track that transaction

Jaleach, I am late to the party but... Pennsylvania actually owns the liquer stores in state so they take their revenue very seriously. They were sending cops over the border into Maryland to observe people who had PA plates buying alcohol. They simply sat in the nearest store lots. They were busting people who were buying for personal use.

128

Growing tobacco is professional-level gardening. It will grow, but needs a lot more care than corn and beans to get it started. It does not ward off pests; it protects your tomatoes by attracting the pests to itself. Once you have a crop, you can easily dry it to smoke in a pipe. But making cigarettes is a long complicated process: boil the leaf, add a sticky agent like sorghum or syrup, carefully press into blocks (while watching for mold), dry completely, grate into shreds, then roll. And the filter tubes aren't cheap; it's like the primer shortage for reloaders, and cotton is hard to grow. It makes an interesting hobby, but actually producing enough for regular use requires survivalist-level commitment.  

Short version: I do not have to go to work. In separate seasons, I've proven to my satisfaction that I am able to grow and preserve my own food, manage a few animals, brew my beer, press my wine, distill liqueurs, maintain the machinery, build the house, load the ammo and grow tobacco (have not mastered weaving or tanning). Doing those all at the same time is more than a full time job, and you can't do anything else.  I'll have to do it all if/when  SHTF--supplies will be harder to order--but, short run, I choose my battles so I get out more. 

A lot of this Galt talk is such loose shit that it borders on japery. Go talk to people who really do it all. It's desperately hard. The point of the Gulch parable was that those survivors set up a division of labor and a healthy trade economy. It was the failed society that devolved into subsistence. It's far easier, even now, to make this government go away, than to establish a million independent farmsteads. 

129 @ Walmart, their generic patch costs less than comparable tobacco products for the same nicotine dose. A new first.

130

Some advice from someone who quit after a heart attack:

 

1. You will NEVER get rid of the desire for a cigarette. It has been 3 years since I quit and every now and then I still get the urge.

 

2. For at least the first 6 months you will have to stay away from old places where you smoked a lot, like favorite bars etc. Also stay upwind of smokers because smelling the smoke will make you want one.

 

3. COLD TURKEY is the only way to go. I had tried all kinds of smoke weaning programs – no workee. Cold turkey is tough but it is the only way.

131 Good luck on the quitting.
I have been quitting off and on for about 25 years.
The patch works best for me. Those lozenges are like taking a dip of smokeless tabaccy. NASTY!
I like smoking...ok love it, but due to health reasons and quite honestly, the price, Im done now.

Im just curious how far we will allow ourselves to be pushed before the big freak out happens.

132 With all the stress Odorkwad is causing me, I've been considering taking up smoking.

/sarc

133 Someone needs to make a shirt that says something along the lines of "Support Children's Healthcare - take up smoking!"

Like that, only funny, of course.

134 Chantix is the way to go.  Not only does it kill the anxiety, but it gives you the coolest dreams evah.  I've been on it for a month and haven't had a cig in over a week.

135

Chantix is the best invention  since gunpowder.  I've been on it a month & don't want a cigarette at all.  also, because i'm not smoking, i'm not snacking & have LOST weight.  go figure.

and i wasn't even bitchy much to my husband's relief.

136 but when the apocalypse comes, i'm going back to smoking & drinking.  don't know where i'll get the cigarettes, but i figure i will deserve both of those vices at that time.

137

Growing tobacco is professional-level gardening.

Growing up in the South in the 50s I learned about "cropping" tobacco. It is hard, hot, and brutal work.

It is easier to quit.

138

Oh, number 4 on the advice:

4. Be prepared to gain about 15 pounds be hungry all the time.

139 Well, looks like the $60 million they put in the Stimulus to educate/prevent smokers to quit worked.  Maybe I shouldn't be so pessimistic about the rest of the +/- trilion dollars.

140 no one likes a quitter

141 I'm surprised no one has mentioned electronic cigarettes. Got mine last week and it's pretty good. Obama's gonna stop me from smoking.

142 What a good idea for you and yours! I quite menthol cigarettes 10 years ago so I know what you'll go through. Stick with it and drink lots and lots of water. I used to buy my cartons from the Indian Reservations because they are tax-free and even though 10 years ago they were $25.00/carton, and even though I really never had that "extra" $100.00 a month leftover or to put elsewhere (??) I'm still glad I did and you can too. Best of luck to everyone!  : )

143 I quit cold turkey almost 13 years ago. I still miss smoking sometimes, but I'd never go back.

The first week is the worst. Get through that one week and you'll be okay. You can do it.

144 Try the electronic cigarette.  No smoke, no tar and you can ramp down the nicotine dosage as you progress.  One of my coworkers is using it and recommends it, having already tried to quit with multiple other methods, he thinks this one might actually be working for him.

145

The patch worked for me.  You need to work out because you will gain weight - and a lot.

Or ... I'm sure Obama's new health program will cover weight loss programs and ... you'll be in there!

146

If, as VP Biden insists, it is patriotic to pay taxes and taxes have increased on tobacco does this mean.....wait for it.....that it is now patriotic to smoke?  Next time you talk to a liberal ask them if they smoke.  If they don't, call them a hypocrite who wants kids to die.

147 I've been working on quitting for a couple months now... went from a pack a day to a pack a week (with help from the patch).  It's getting about time for the final cut though... April 15 sounds like a good a date as any to make the point.  So I'll be right there with ya.

And yes, depriving Il Duce II of his extortion funds is the single biggest motivating factor at this point.

Qwinn

148 You will NEVER get rid of the desire for a cigarette. It has been 3 years since I quit and every now and then I still get the urge.

Yes and no. I've been off them for about 16 years. At some point, the random cravings drop off to a real once-in-a-blue-moon type thing, and they're very mild. The thought of actually smoking a cigarette right now really disgusts me.

149 HondaV65:

Actually, the first time I quit, I gained a crapload of weight because I replaced smoking with drinking (diet) soda.  That shit makes you gain a -ton- of weight, no matter what they say.  Next time I quit, I drank water instead of soda, and didn't gain a pound.

Qwinn

150 And oh yeah, any time you get a craving for a smoke while quitting, drink some water instead.  It really helps.  Well, helped me anyway.

Qwinn

151 I resent that the gov't selects a group of people to punitively tax because they feel it is unhealthy. It would be great if people banded together to protest the tobacco tax and demand that taxation be equal across all product lines and not pinpoint users of a particular product.  Why not overtax high end wines, food at an expensive NYC restaurant, the expensive beef that Obama served at the White House and so forth. How about taxing everyone who is a runner and uses a park path for running - let these so-called healthy people kick in money for health care - not just smokers.  There must be a way to find out if this is legal - to overtax a portion of the population.

152

Best of luck to all of you who are trying to quit.  My son says he can't, even though the tax on his roll-your-own tobacco went from $1.09 lb. to over $24!  He has very little to begin with so, as usual, the liberals taxes hit the poor the worst.

I quit many years ago with the aid of Reeds root beer, cinnamon, and spearmint candies.  Reeds, quite unfortunately, is no longer in business but other sharp tasting hard candies may work as well. 

Andy D.

 

 

153 Don't buy from the Indian reservations. They have to report who purchases from them and that is how the states track you down.

You can, however, buy from out of the country. If you buy the ones for the EU market they taste a little different but are much cheaper. There are also foreign sellers who will ship US smokes. Those cartons are about $56 each including shipping.

Because they are based out of the country, they are outside of US jurisdiction. You could still run into problems but the risk is much smaller than with an Indian reservation purchase.

Screw quitting, I'd rather keep smoking and avoid the tax. I know it's bad for my health but I'm too much of a rebel to do what the fucking nanny state demands. Hell I'd be more inclined to quit if they would stop fucking with our lives.

154 I guess the alcohol lobbyist have better friends in Washington. I'm waiting for the raise in taxes for Wine, beer and liquour...stock now!

155

Why not overtax high end wines, food at an expensive NYC restaurant, the expensive beef that Obama served at the White House and so forth. How about taxing everyone who is a runner and uses a park path for running - let these so-called healthy people kick in money for health care - not just smoker

 

I have been saying that for years. Here in the South taxes on cigarettes were traditionally low but they more than made up for it on the taxes on alcohol. I have maintained that singling out things that people looked on as “sin” for punitive taxes was a violation of the 14^th amendment. Unfortunately the courts, being liberal, have never agreed with that.

 

But not to worry; Il DuceII is going to fix that for you. He is going to have punitive taxes on everything.  Cigarettes is just one step in the process.

156

We're with you. Not only is it bad fo yo health, I refuse to support SCHIP, where I've got the choice. Goin' for Commit, as soon as I go Galt.

 

"Patches.....We don' need no stinking patches!"

157 Go cold turkey.  Anything else just develops another addiction and postpones your ultimate goal.  You can do it.  Go for long, long, long, long meditattive walks. 

158 Galt didn't quit why should any of us? The point of going Galt isn't to deprive the govt. of something, it is to work in opposition to it. In order to stop the motor of the world, you have to throw a wrench in somewhere. Gather friends, find a sympathetic grower, start a private brand using non-US funds or favors to barter. I don't know the whole workings of it, but I would think 100sq.ft. would grow enough for annual personal use. Of course location is an issue but global warming is going to make all of America suitible to grow tobacco soon. Surely you could dry it in one of those food dehydrators. And hydroponics are perfectly legal. Of course there is always Cuba if you really want to go Galt.

159 Behavior modification. Why is it that the Government can do it, but we can't seem to do it back to government.

I admire all of you that want to and claim to be quitting. But unfortunately, the government is going to claim this to be a huge success either way. They either get lots more income "FOR THE CHILDREN" tm ... or ... they stopped a lot of "bad" behavior.

When there are actually good things that can be done instead ... kick a hippies ass, or hunt a hobo.

160

I live in the wonderful state of NY.  I went to purchase a carton of cigarettes at the price of $92.40.  No way am I paying that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Quit I will.  So the Schip will not be funded and the cigarette companies will be going out of business.  What a great country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

161 I was a 2-3 pack a day smoker when I quit. If I can do it anyone can. BTW in addition to really wanting to quit, I used acupuncture. Doesn't work for everyone but it did work for me. Good luck.

162 Yea, screw that. I'm gonna go do my social-conscience-charity-white-guilt thang and start goin to the Seminole's for my ciggies.

And, while I'm too lazy to do it myself, I have informed some local independent entrepreneurs that it may be to their economic benefit to re-sell some tax-free ciggies purchased from our beloved local Tribe to their friends. Simply charging just a little bit extra for transportation.

Raising the tax only encourages the pure-free-market of the black-market system.
The Free-Market always works. And, as usual in a capitalistic system, everybody wins. The Seminole Tribe gets their money, the businessperson gets their cut, and the end customer gets their product at a lower price. Screw the government, if they dinna spend so much money on worthless crap they wouldn't need...so much money.

Now, raise the ciggie or beer tax to pay for summore F-22s, tanks, submarines and really big aircraft carriers, and/or to pay for combat veteran's medical bills... I'd be cool with that.

I support the Drink For Freedom Bill!
And the Smoke em if you got em For America Bill!
Alternatively, Light One Up For the Troops, Fire it Up For the Troops, or  Ciggarettes Kill...Terrorists! tax.
(SRLY, any legislator reading this and thinkin the Drink For Freedom Bill(or any of the others), as described, is a good idea, show some ovarian or testicular fortitude and actually call it that, thnx)

163

Best of luck with quitting.

I tried everything and I found a product called Ariva. It's basically compressed tobacco that tastes like a breath mint.

So instead of being hooked on cigarettes, I got hooked on these things since each one packs the same punch as a cigarette.

They were a lot less cheaper than a pack a smokes ($2 - $3 a pack online) and they were easier to quit once I got used to not smoking.

Just my personal experience. Sure it's not for everyone.

164 I quit a few days ago when the price rose to about 8 bucks a pack here in Arizona.  Doing well enough. The fed tax is one thing, the state tax increas, earmarked specifically is one that is really going to hurt them in the end. Wait, a take that back, it is going to hurt EVERYONE. 'Cause when the tax revenue falls way short, which it will, they are not going to cut program funding, they will simply cast a wider tax net to make up the shortfall. 

165 I didn't know electronic cigarettes existed before this thread. Can anyone recommend a brand - where to get one?

166 Good luck. I am a very light smoker, only about 3 packs a week.  But I did quit once for about a year and used the patch to do it.  Worked great.

167

 I'm pretty sure that you have to have a BATF license for to grow Tobacco, in fact for each plant, and that your harvest would be subjected to taxation - even if not sold - for the crop to mearly exist meant it was therefor to be subject to the rule and order of law.

So you cant legally grow your own, surely cant grow & give away, nor dare you sell any to your friends. 

OT Side story:   ~20 years ago I ran Video-Assist Camera assisting a 35mm film crew making a Promo for Winston Salem - the main prop in the film were these wooden pallets stacked about 5 feet high with all of thier different cuts and cures of tobacco. They custom blended these together to reproduce a consistant brand&taste.  The opening shot (and seen in most of the background) in the script was of a huge "select" warehouse FULL of these huge bales of tobacco: 150' wide (for dolly moves) and 3 shelves to the ceiling (for crane shots) and various work in progress pallettes scattered in the foreground.  I arrived on set a day early just as the (Winston painted )18 Wheelers were departing from the warehouse.  I dont smoke*, but it smelled really good!   The Grips were cordinating how to move all the pallets around with the director to show the various colors and textures - some of the guys were climbing and walking around on top of the stacks of tobacco and got a warning that if they were not smokers they could get a skin contact overdose.

 Then THE MAN arrived: Several (Actual T-shirt wearing) BATF agents introduced themselfs and needed to have a little pow-wow with whom ever was "in charge here".    What we had no concept of was that all this stuff wasnt our average movie prop - this stuff was MONEY!  Hey, no big deal right; Winston had just dropped millions of dollars of it off here for FREE, right?  It was'nt any worry to us about some of it being stolen. The problem was far worse as explained by teh BATF:  We would be responsible for the TAXES LOST if any of it went missing, and that was some big bucks considering the tonnage! BATF thus made us hire 24/7 security and I'm sure weighed every pallet when it got shipped back.

 I felt sorry for the smoking actor because he had to do these deep long drags in just the exact lighting for 2 long days !

 * Few of the advertising/winston marketing/execs/film crew smoked either.

168

oops I was wrong: you can grow 33Lbs per adult, per year.

"Seems kinda light..."

How many cartons or packs a day is that?

Cocksuckers!

169 Do you suppose if I started smoking from now until the 15th, I could be a quitter, too?  My daughter smokes, and no matter what the price, she will continue to do so.

170

i quit the day he signed the bill.

 

171

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet

This i just it... I've been telling people this for years. When there are no smokers left to tax, what will they tax next? Gotta get the money from somewhere... although it will be more fair, seing as how less than 20% of the population smokes (and about 40% of those earn less than $90k a year).

172

A punitive penalty IS NOT a reliable revenue tax. That's why many states have incredible fines for "throwing litter or burning objects along highways." They don't plan on making money from litterbugs, they plan on scaring littering wrongdoers away from it.

The revenue shortfall for this bullSCHIP will be predictable if the desired smoking cessation happens. And then the Commiecrats will hit us ALL up with more taxes. Just think about that the next time you are tempted to join the anti-tobacco jihad.

Some people think smoking is SO evil, taxes on it should be incredibly high. Okay, fine with me (no pun intended). But we CANNOT have a punitive penalty as a source of revenue.

We have already passed the point of revenue maximization on smoking taxes.

 

173 I switched to e-cigarettes three weeks ago and have not looked back.

I like smoking, I refuse to quit, and the e-cigarettes are not taxed as a tobacco product. Plus they actually taste and feel like smoking even though the "Smoke" is only vapor.

Naturally there are already efforts to make the e-cigarettes illegal, so anyone interested in e-smoking had best get one while they still can.

174 What brand of e-cigarette works, with widely available refills?

175 Hypnosis works like a charm. I tried to stop for years. 1 week of hypnosis and never smoked again. That was 30 years ago....

176

A heart attack works wonders for a “quit smoking program” also. Nothing like shaking hands with the rider on a pale horse to clarify your desire to quit.

 

Unfortunately the side effects are somewhat harsh and it is not recommended by the FDA. 33% of the people using that program die.

177 Adolfo, I just did a search on e-cigs. There are a number of sites that offer them. I didn't take time to research prices, etc. It looks like they are an innovation by the Chinese. I'm going to look into it further later today. But first I need a cig.

178 @175: You can get NJoy e-Cigarettes at Costco's web site. Just search for "NJoy".

There is also a good forum called "e-cigarette-forum dot com". Lots of information there about brands, form factor, refills, etc.

So far within the last three weeks ... me, my wife, my boss, two co-workers and my brother-in-law have made the switch. (Tobacco taxes in our state are just out of control)

I smoked one analog cigarette two weeks ago and found that I prefer the e-cig now.

It tastes ... cleaner. (plus I like some of the other flavors available)

179

Good luck to you, you can do it.  I smoked over 2 packs a day for 30+ years, I loved my cigarettes.  I quit 4 years ago using the Nicotrol Inhaler, a little cig shaped device with refillable nicotine cartridges-prescription only.  Best high I ever got-bar none and I could use them anywhere real smokes were banned-flying overseas too.  I was in hog heaven, high as a kite and I still had the hand-to-mouth thing going that I didn't get with the patch or the gum.  I used the inhaler for almost a year and then carried it around empty for a few months because I was a little afraid to let it go.

Every once in a while I get a craving, but it is fleeting. I have to say this is one of my proudest accomplishments,  I had tried multiple times before, but always failed and figured I was just a big loser with no willpower.

Every day at work I see patients who smoked and now have to deal with some awful health issues-it is far worse than you can imagine.

Like I said, you can do this. 

180

I've been putting off quitting again for a few months.

I'll be doing it now along with the rest of you and using the saved money to expand my garden or buy another gun.

181 do go cold turkey. I did it over 10 years ago. Just take it one day at a time. It is more mental than anything else. I smoked for over 25 years. I still take it one day at a time. I quite smoking when the Va tax rate jumped back in 2000. so now is a good excuse.

182 I am a smoker that chooses to roll my own and buy tobacco by the pound. (I make my cigarettes with a machine and they look just like Factory Smokes)In the past, I was able to make a carton for around $7-$10.00 depending on manufacturer sales and coupons.

Thanks to this SCHIP bill passing, my favorite Tobacco has increased in price from $12.00lb.to $45.00 a pound on 4-1-2009.
This is so outrageous that Tyranny does not describe this tax. How can the Feds justify an increase of a tobacco tax by $25.00 a Pound? This is a fascist partnership between the Feds and Big 4 Cigarette companies that allows them to force people that roll their own to pay what people that buy factory cigs by the carton. There are about 10,000 vendors that sell RYO and their livelihood is threatened by this massive increase.

183

The $12.00 American Tobacco I used to buy has already been taxed to the hilt. In the last 4 years, it has increased by about $1.50 a pound every year with state and federal tax. Rolling Tobacco has to be highest taxed item in the history of the USA. This countries economy was founded on the sale of tobacco, read your US History. There would be no America without tobacco sales to Europe in the 1600-1700’s. It was the number one export crop in the USA for 150 years. By 1700, America exported 36 million pounds of tobacco a year to Europe.

I have been making my own for about 15 years not just because of the cost but there are no chemicals added to roll your own tobacco like Marlboros or Camels that add Ammonia ect to get people hooked quicker.

A $25.00 dollar per pound increase so families that make more than I do(250% of the poverty rate=60K right now) can get free health insurance off the backs of smokers.

We are loosing our Freedoms and Liberty one by one in this country. I do not recognize the country I grew up in anymore. I think I will get into the smuggling business of tobacco just as the founding fathers did over the tea tax. I for one am hoping Americans finally wake up and start a revolution to throw the corrupt criminals in Wash DC in Prison for Treason. They no longer represent the people but the Rockefeller Elite One World Government crowd that ignore and abhore our Constitution.

It is not just tobacco taxes people! They are systematically destroying private enterprise in this country one at a time. When it is your business, you will not be laughing. Many tobacco outlets have already gone out of business since April 1.

I think I will get into smuggling tobacco and follow the lead of the founding fathers to avoid this outrageous excise tax.

The feds added a clause to the SCHIP Bill(scroll to the last paragraph) fearing that smuggling was going to increase due to the cost increases they have imposed: DUH

184 I smoked for forty years and quit hundreds of times. I've been smokeless for three years now. Chantix works.

185 Huh, never smoked in my life, I guess I'm a patriot without even knowing it.

186 I already quit the day the tax went into effect. 

187 I've been a social smoker for years but lately I have been increasing the habit up to about half a pack a day. Picked up two packs and a subway (their meatball sandwich is my other really bad sin...) on Saturday and gave the clerk a twenty and my change was less than a buck. I have been toying with quitting for years too and now I have multiple motivations: health, cost, smell, and finally the damn taxes. A fine tea party tribute. Now I just need to find one in Austin as I am not sure I want to deal with the crowds at the Alamo this weekend.

188

Thanks for the e-cig advice. I'm looking into Njoy. My last attempts to stop failed because gum and candy didn't have that inhale burn that I crave so much.

If Njoy doesn't work, I'll try the prescription nicotine inhalor another poster mentioned above.

My first child is on the way, and I'm looking forward to a long life teaching him to screw the nanny state.

189 I'm in. I have one left. For the past couple of days, instead of buying a new pack, I have replace that thought with, "No. I need to buy a pack of ammo first." Not sure how long it will take till it turns to, "No. I need to shoot my Glock first." It helps me from feeling I'm turning into a greenie.

190 ^{65 Good luck to you future former smokers who really just want 30 year old kids to die.}

I just want 30 year old kids to die between the legs of.

191

I used Phillippians 4:13 when I quit smoking.

Worked for me, however YMMV.

192 I'm a quitter and so can you!

193 @189 adolfo, Your welcome.

Keep in mind that the difference between the e-cig and the prescription inhaler is that the e-cig is meant as an alternative to smoking, where the significantly more expensive and much less satisfying prescription inhaler is a smoking cessation device.

I don't intend to quit my nicotine habit. I LIKE smoking. I do object to the "sin" taxes and dictatorial social stigma, but have to admit that analog smokes smell like ... smokes.

The e-cig's nicotine vapor is simply a nice clean, non-smelly, no ashes, alternative to smoking burning tobacco.

194 Phillippians 4:13...
OK , I'm in too.

195 I quit five years ago, and honestly it wasn't half as hard as I thought. From day one I just said I don't smoke, nasty habit, never touch the stuff. Had cravings in the evening or around wine. Three weeks in I felt fine. Everyone's different I guess.

196 I'm up for it as well. In Chicago, cigarettes are $9/pack. Over the Cook County boarder they are $5.50. Ten minute drive, but what's the point when most of that is taxes. I think I'll go cold turkey. I'll just carry around a picture of The One for inspiration. The thought that I am funding our great journey to socialism is inspiration enough to quit.

197 YOU CAN DO IT!
I found it helpful to replace the habit with gum or toothpicks at first, you know, after meals and such.
Makes me feel like smoking again just so i can quit and stick it to the man!
Just kidding.
Best of luck.
E

198 I'm a cigar smoker, this year i'll be growing aging and rolling my own smokes. Of course its more work, but every puff will be my big thumb in those assholes eyes! heheheh. Also remember the Indian reservations, cheaper there.

199 The next nasty habit our Obamalords are going to heal you of is your antisocialist ammo habit.

200 I have the entire DHHS email list in 2 Excel spreadsheets, (100,000+) if anybody wants to express your displeasure.

They are the govt agency in charge of S-CHIP. You have the right to petition the government to redress grievances, and these are .gov emails.

I’ll post it up if someone wants it. Names, Job titles, mailstops, phones, faxs, and emails.

UPDATE: already got a req:   http://tinyurl.com/dz4j3g
http://tinyurl.com/dmx7n8   Tell'm I said hi... next step - autodialer

201 I haven't smoked in 6 years. For me the trick wasn't to quit smoking, but to quit buying them. I didn't have a lot of friends that smoke at the time, so I didn't have to worry about bumming though...

Best of luck! As the great comedian-philosopher, Rob Schneider said, "You can do it!"

202 Check out e-smokers site.. great way to still smoke, without the tar and chemicals, and not pay the taxes...

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Hang in there, I quit cold turkey, on October 16, 1983 at 8:15am after smoking 3 packs a day for 20 plus years.  Even though I still crave one once in a while it can be done.

You can do it, just do it!!!

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