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Report: Obama to Force GM Into Bankruptcy

Fourteen billion dollars down the drain to achieve what could have been achieved for nothing.

As Obama's taking over the board of directors, I worry that he'll make the company do bizarre things in bankruptcy -- like, rather than breaking contracts with the UAW, give them all a big parting bonus.


Posted by: Ace at 03:26 PM



Comments

1 I can't believe I'm seeing this in my own country. Didn't this used to be America?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 01, 2009 03:28 PM (FO+YO)

2

14 bil could have bought 3 spanking new Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carriers.

You know, real stimulus.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 01, 2009 03:30 PM (B+qrE)

3

I'm in ur car company, stopping the engine of the world.

Posted by: John LOLt at April 01, 2009 03:31 PM (O7Waf)

4 Yeah, but then it would have been money well spent.

Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2009 03:31 PM (lF2Kk)

5 OK, where the fuck did the twenty billion go?  It's not like Waggoner put it in his mattress, is it?

Someone got rich here.  We need to know who.  Did Timmah use this as another "hide the salami" like AIG?  Are we going to see GM Execs being burned in effigy next?

WHO HAS THE MONEY, EAR-BOY?

Posted by: brian at April 01, 2009 03:32 PM (cPWTF)

6 $14,000,000,000.00 down a swirling, sucking eddy of despair.  All it bought was happiness in the Obama camp. "Never waste a good crisis, even one you help manufacture!"

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 01, 2009 03:33 PM (4L5Tl)

7 And these were supposedly the smartest people we've EVER had in an administration.


Thanks again 52%, you fucking retards.

Posted by: UncleFacts at April 01, 2009 03:33 PM (M+Vfm)

8

Didn't Drew already post this?

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2009 03:35 PM (+hPIb)

9
But he has interest in running or controlling GM.

chyyyyyyeaaaaa right

Posted by: Darling, just an entertainer at April 01, 2009 03:36 PM (9xxhL)

10
What a coincendence!

Obama is also forcing the United States to go into bankruptcy. Hmmm, I see a trend...

Posted by: Darling, just an entertainer at April 01, 2009 03:38 PM (9xxhL)

11

"As Obama's taking over the board of directors, I worry that he'll make the company do bizarre things in bankruptcy"

I'll go get my robe and wizard hat!

Posted by: Barney Frank at April 01, 2009 03:38 PM (+hPIb)

12
The real kick in the pants? Obama will say his usual bullshit line: The U.S. GM will emerge stronger.

chhyyeeeeeaaah right

Posted by: Darling, just an entertainer at April 01, 2009 03:39 PM (9xxhL)

13

I'll go get my robe and wizard hat!

Coke Zero out nose.

Painful.

Fuck that hurts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 01, 2009 03:39 PM (B+qrE)

14 @8

Nope.

That was Slublog.

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 03:40 PM (1jglO)

15 @11 Barney Frank

I'll go get my robe and wizard hat!

Just walk on over to the senate offices and borrow Robert Byrd's.

Kleagle, Wizard, who knows the difference these days?

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 03:40 PM (4sSHg)

16 Wait until the banks go bankrupt.  I mean, wait until they admit that they've been bankrupt for the past year.  Oh and all that taxpayer money that they sucked in?  Just it disapeared like a dime bag in a trailer park.

Posted by: Toad at April 01, 2009 03:41 PM (o5vMm)

17 Present.

Posted by: President Overwhelmed at April 01, 2009 03:43 PM (/PEZV)

18 You guys just love to hate all those union workers with their big, rough hands and sweaty overalls that just peel off like the skin of a bananna ...

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:44 PM (etcrC)

19 WHO HAS THE MONEY, EAR-BOY?

UAW of course.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 03:44 PM (7YgGp)

20
Remeber the episode of STAR TREK called The OMEGA GLORY?

It was about a post-apocolyptic society and it had YANGS vs THE COMS

Yeah, that's us in 200 years.

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 03:45 PM (9xxhL)

21 #17  he he he! good one.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 01, 2009 03:45 PM (4L5Tl)

22
I'd think you'd be happy the bankers have run off with the loot leaving workers to look for handouts?

You'd "think" that but you're a shithead.

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 03:46 PM (9xxhL)

23 What the fuck are you babbling about, erg?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 03:46 PM (/PEZV)

24 Abolish money!

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:46 PM (etcrC)

25 Re: 20   "Me a YANG! Me kill Coms!"

Posted by: GregInSeattle at April 01, 2009 03:47 PM (gbGqE)

26 My gender sciences professor said all of you are WRONG!

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:47 PM (etcrC)

27 Which has exactly what to do with this post, you mush-brained pinhead?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 03:48 PM (/PEZV)

28 Had GM been allowed to file Chapter 11 in the first place, most of the workers would have retained their jobs, some would have to go, union contracts would have to be renegotiated but GM might have come out of it in a much better position without costing the tax payer 14 billion.

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 03:49 PM (jZNCU)

29 Somewhere along the line Ace's Knucfleheaded Mommy told him that unions hurt workers.

Fortunately for me, I had a REAL Mommy who showed me how to douche properly and look pretty in a dress.

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:50 PM (etcrC)

30 Is our resident troll off his meds?

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 03:50 PM (jZNCU)

31

The never ending knucklehead self-hatred of workers.

Workers and unions are not synonyms, erg.

I looked it up and everything.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 01, 2009 03:51 PM (B+qrE)

32 My Dear Mr. President,

You will rue the day you fucked with me.

A melodramatic opening, perhaps, but an attention-grabber, wouldn't you agree?

I once had an associate by the name of Edward Picstanowicz. You probably never knew him. And even if you wanted to you missed your chance -- parts of him ended up in three different landfills and his head was mailed to his wife along with a box of chocolates and a note with the same salutation I opened this letter with.

I find it...awkward...to be forced into a position whereby I have to explain myself to my underlings, but you have unfortunately screwed up so badly that I cannot leave this situation to one of my many capable middle-management people. And I suspect that the chastisement that I have in mind simply wouldn't carry the force if it came from anyone other than myself.

Our compact was simple: I would stay out of your business and you would stay out of mine. Simple, efficient, with no room of misinterpretation. Or so I thought, at any rate.

Therefore I send you this letter to prepare you. Please do not think of it as a threat; schoolyard bullies threaten. Nor should you take it as one of those meaningless foam-at-the-mouth screeds of which you no doubt receive many every day. No, think of this letter this way: the party is over, everyone has left but you, and the host is holding out your hat and coat. It was fun having you at the party until you made a nuisance of yourself. Now it is time for you to leave.

You may take comfort in the fact that your long journey need be neither uncomfortable or painful. My father, a soldier of some renown, might have said: "Don't run or you'll just die tired." My associates will be visiting you soon with some bitter medicine that you must needs take; but once the medicine is taken there will be no more pain or fear.

You may want to remind your successor that there is a difference between running things and only thinking that you run things.

Yours Very Sincerely,

[NAME REDACTED]

Posted by: Monty at April 01, 2009 03:51 PM (/0a60)

33 The biggest problem is this country is an administration that thinks they're so "S-M-R-T" (intentionally misspelled) that they can do whatever they want and everything will turn out fine.

This moron's hubris is going to be a serious problem when the shit hits the fan for real, not just on problems he's causing himself.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 01, 2009 03:51 PM (RKHDZ)

34 Unions don't hurt workers, they affect the profitability of the company the workers work for. Especially if they are in competition with foreign companies that don't unionize and therefore offer much more cost effective products. Simple Econ 101 stuff.

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 03:52 PM (jZNCU)

35 I'd think you'd be happy the bankers have run off with the loot leaving workers to look for handouts?

Whatever, fish-boy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 03:52 PM (7YgGp)

36 I hope some of you assholes here have lost your job and blah blah blah and blah blah blah

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:53 PM (etcrC)

37 Yeah unions are great for workers.Ask the steelworkers and the shipbuilders and.......

Posted by: steevy at April 01, 2009 03:53 PM (xnC9d)

38 Erg must be smoking Barack again.

Posted by: monkeyfan at April 01, 2009 03:54 PM (cEE8N)

39
The 'worker' without a job is not a fucking worker, you asshole.

From the Left's dictionary
worker -- noun, a person who does not work

When Obama says he's gonna give tax-cuts to workers, he means welfare to people who never have any intention of working.

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 03:54 PM (9xxhL)

40 You wingers don't know culture.

You know ... like giving Ipods away to foreign dignitaries.

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:55 PM (etcrC)

41
...job offers produced by the keynsian stimulus.

hahaha, okay who's doing the parody this time?

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 03:55 PM (9xxhL)

42 IC,

That may be true but you miss the point entirely.  I don't see any provision in that chain of events you've laid out for having politicians and bureaucrats dictate automobile design.  Sorry, but any policy that does not weaken the private sector, increase the power of government or ideally combine both is just epic FAIL in D.C.

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 03:56 PM (1jglO)

43 Erg says:  Unemployed Workers Suck the government tit and vote democrat!

Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2009 03:56 PM (knHvu)

44

I hope some of you assholes here have lost your job, but have the moral fortitude to refuse unemployment insurance and job offers produced by the keynsian stimulus.

Name a job produced by the "stimulus" and I'll buy you a nice bottle of single malt, dolt.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 01, 2009 03:57 PM (B+qrE)

45 #32
This has the flavor of "The Screwtape Diaries." Perhaps we're living in the era of President Screwtape.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 03:57 PM (AZGON)

46 Ideology first, knuckleheads.

You first. North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela. Take your pick, you syphilitic Marxist numbskull.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 03:58 PM (/PEZV)

47 blah blah blah the glory of the union worker blah blah blah capitalist thieves blah blah blah

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 03:58 PM (etcrC)

48

"My Dear Mr. President,
You will rue the day you fucked with me."

This was as far as I needed to read before I knew the author.

And thanks for the correction, Deety!  I do try to pride myself on accuracy.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2009 03:59 PM (sPO/s)

49 33 The biggest problem is this country is an administration that thinks they're so "S-M-R-T" (intentionally misspelled) that they can do whatever they want and everything will turn out fine.

I am so smart, I am so smart, s-m-r-t


Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 03:59 PM (miw86)

50 I can't tell if Erg is happy or unhappy that GM is potentially going into bankruptcy.

Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2009 04:00 PM (lF2Kk)

51 Letting GM go bankrupt is Keynesian stimulus?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 04:00 PM (/PEZV)

52 OK.  So there isn't a single CEO or Business exec in the Obama Cabinet.  Is there at least a B School grad?

http://is.gd/qa3d

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 04:01 PM (AHrTm)

53 Embrace the command economy.

Posted by: lorien1973 at April 01, 2009 04:01 PM (IhQuA)

54
#50

With all the brain-rot that comes from watching Jon Stewart, I doubt erg knows himself. I bet he's still struggling to understand why the USSR failed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 04:01 PM (/PEZV)

55 In fairness, its $14 Billion worth of guaranteed loans.
The taxpayer isn't on the hook. . .YET.
*IF* GM can turn things around in the next 5 years, the taxpayer MIGHT even make money on the deal since the gov't is borrowing at 2% and lending at 5% return.

Posted by: looking closely at April 01, 2009 04:01 PM (PwGfd)

56 Deety,
I did not lay out any chain of events. My whole point is for free market to dictate the viability of a company, in any sector. If auto industry accepts unionization of its workers and all the additional costs (up to $1600 per car) that comes with it, fine, that is their prerogative. However, when consumers decide that they prefer a Honda or a Toyota to a GM car, because it is cheaper, you get better mileage and a whole lot more car for the sticker price, and GM slides into bigger and bigger deficits, they have no right to come crying to the tax payers for a handout.

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 04:01 PM (jZNCU)

57 #54

The USSR failed because of the capitalists.

Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2009 04:02 PM (lF2Kk)

58

Your tax dollars at work.

The question is where the 14 billion went. 

Posted by: Joe at April 01, 2009 04:02 PM (+GRGs)

59 We've seen the fruit of the demise of unionization.

Unionization gave us GM.

The "demise of unionization" gave us Toyota.

Tell me, erg, which company would you rather be employed by right now?

Posted by: sandy burger at April 01, 2009 04:03 PM (twiRb)

60

I remember when Americans used to say it can't happen here.  Now I realize how the Communists come to power.  Its amazing how many Americans are motivated by class hatred, envy, and greed.

 

Its amazing the way the Left uses the politics of fear and hatred.  Small bet, the next victim of the Left's two minutes of hate now that their attempt to smear Limbaugh has failed, will be Justice Roberts.

You can always tell what end Barney Frank will be on once he starts braying.

 

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at April 01, 2009 04:03 PM (0Qynq)

61 37 Yeah unions are great for workers.Ask the steelworkers and the shipbuilders and

After I get my bailout and bankruptcy cash, I'm going to do my bit to save the steelworkers. Pork rinds and chili bacon double cheeseburgers for all.

Posted by: Ron Smellmyfinger at April 01, 2009 04:03 PM (miw86)

62 I hope some of you assholes here have lost your job, but have the moral fortitude to refuse unemployment insurance and job offers produced by the keynsian stimulus.

Actually, I DID lose my job, fish-face, back in mid-Nov. But I didn't draw unemployment and whine like a little bitch. I banded together with some like-minded folks in my area and started a company of our own.

We didn't need the fucking government to do it either, just our own chutzpah and desire to work. The only thing that I want or need from the government is to stay the fuck out of our way.

We have very little money to work with, things are certainly precarious, but I'm happy as a fucking clam.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 04:04 PM (7YgGp)

63
Some might not remember ergastularius used to pick cute handles such as "Friedrich von Hayek" and lecture us on true conservative economics.

That's when it thought it was useful to try to turn us against the 'neo-cons' in the GOP. Now with Obama in the White House, it's dropping all pretenses and admitting it's a hardcore leftist.

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 04:04 PM (9xxhL)

64 It doesn't pay to be responsible anymore for anything.

CNN's Production Assistant Crackwhore wants you to pay off her useless college education loans to the tune of $115K.

Makes me want to barf.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at April 01, 2009 04:05 PM (MFQJZ)

65 erg,

Our Hot Air troll called in sick. Could you take over for him for a shift? andros said he'll come in early to fill in here.

Posted by: David Assholerod at April 01, 2009 04:05 PM (miw86)

66

We've seen the fruit of the demise of unionization.

The demise of unionization apparently is the cause of all our economic woes, morons.

I'd slap my forehead over the revelation, but my head just rolled off into the corner and burst into flames at the sight of such economic stupidity.

Erg, get back on the lithium.  Stat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 01, 2009 04:05 PM (B+qrE)

67 #62 - Good for you, and good luck with your new company.

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 04:05 PM (jZNCU)

68

but have the moral fortitude to refuse unemployment insurance

You make no sense but what else is new.  Employers fund unemployment  insurance too.  Thats part of your compensation.  Its not a giveaway.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2009 04:06 PM (m2CN7)

69
Keynesian stimulus job offers = green jobs, I think

green jobs = invisible jobs, I think


Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 04:06 PM (9xxhL)

70 However, when consumers decide that they prefer a Honda or a Toyota to a GM car, because it is cheaper, you get better mileage and a whole lot more car for the sticker price, and GM slides into bigger and bigger deficits, they have no right to come crying to the tax payers for a handout.

I should probably give the White House credit where credit is deserved.

Geithner drives an Acura.
Orzag drives a Honda.
Summers drives a Honda.

Final score: ALL HONDA.

I never knew about the "two fleet" rule Holman Jenkins wrote about in the WSJ today.  And Kaus has written about the Wagner Act is a good case for regulation gone awry.  But I think the common enemy here is Keynes.  The Keynesian school must die.

Frankly, I love bohemians that write and compose music.  The ones that write economic policy are the ones I worry about.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 04:06 PM (AHrTm)

71 Have I mentioned that I STILL don't have a job?

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 04:07 PM (etcrC)

72

"I can't tell if Erg is happy or unhappy that GM is potentially going into bankruptcy."

The bankruptcy itself isn't an issue that needs opinion.  The important thing to remember here is that anything negative that happens is the fault of a Republican.  Anything positive that happens is sweet Democratic schadenfreude that should be rubbed in the face of every Republican you know.

This is a lot easier to remember, and doesn't require comprehension of anything complicated that you might not know anything about.  Plus, it fits neatly onto a Post-It Note!

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2009 04:08 PM (sPO/s)

73

but have the moral fortitude to refuse unemployment insurance

You make no sense but what else is new.  Employers fund unemployment  insurance too.  Thats part of your compensation.  Its not a giveaway.

If he'd ever worked for a paycheck he'd know what the "SIU" withholding deduction meant.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 04:08 PM (miw86)

74 Poor erg, the cognitive dissonance is finally getting to him.

Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2009 04:09 PM (lF2Kk)

75 #64 CNN crack whore

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. Let's pay for her nails and hair while we're at it. It's not like Anderson Cooper isn't filthy rich enough to show his patriotism and pay off her bills.

Samantha, I hope you fall into a BMT ventilator shaft and ride the third rail.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 04:10 PM (AZGON)

76 Everything I know about "work" I read in a textbook.

Posted by: ergastularius at April 01, 2009 04:10 PM (etcrC)

77 We are in business hours at this time

For one concerned about the "workers", erg doesn't seem to be doing much work. Unless he's a paid troll

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 04:11 PM (miw86)

78

And shit wages and shit bennies and no tax-base.

That is a lie.  Bald-faced, ass-in-the-wind, Tommy Flanagan, your-mother-would-slap-you lie.

I also love the lib focus on finding SOMETHING to tax in every argument.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (B+qrE)

79

Where did the money go? What happened?

Is this on purpose?

Posted by: who knows at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (7FgWm)

80 Yeah. Fuck the worker!

Change "worker" to "blonde worker with huge chesticles", and the "!" to "multiple times and in multiple positions, over the course of several sultry days", and I'm on board with your plan, Ergs. Let me know.

Worker-fucking: it's the choice of a new generation!

Posted by: Monty at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (/0a60)

81 This erg meltdown is more entertaining than any movie I've watched in the last year. More, you trained seal! More! Dance when I snap my fingers!

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (/PEZV)

82 64 It doesn't pay to be responsible anymore for anything.

CNN's Production Assistant Crackwhore wants you to pay off her useless college education loans to the tune of $115K.

Makes me want to barf.

Ugh.  Someone who racks up $115K in student loans is someone who deserves no sympathy, IMHO.



My entire college education probably cost less than one semester that woman had at her private college in New York.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (RKHDZ)

83

What a bunch of stupid fuckers, you people

That sounds racist. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (m2CN7)

84 I used to think Erg had a double digit IQ but today, I'm not too sure, he might be sliding into the single digit territory.

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (jZNCU)

85 There's a good Barone piece from the Delphi bankruptcy days about how this failure was baked-in over fifty years ago.

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 04:12 PM (4sSHg)

86 But you don't even know you blame yourselves.

You know what? That would make a great rock lyric. It would go perfectly on some whiny soundtrack to a movie about people who feel ways about stuff.



Posted by: Monty at April 01, 2009 04:14 PM (/0a60)

87 Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 04:05 PM (jZNCU)

Thanks. It's a bit scary, but I refuse to go down without a fight. Something that erg the fishfucker obviously doesn't understand.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 04:15 PM (7YgGp)

88

""The "demise of unionization" gave us Toyota."
And shit wages and shit bennies and no tax-base. "

You know what?  Maybe if your job, eight hours a day, is putting the little Chevy bow-tie sticker onto a grille, you shouldn't be making as much money as, say, the person who studied the aerodynamic properties of that grille in order to maximize airflow to the radiator, and minimize wind noise.  Maybe if you ignore the company-sponsored, free, cessation program, and continue to blow what little money you make on cigarettes anyway, you shouldn't expect the company to bend over backwards to cover any expense greater than $20 in the treatement of your self-induced emphysema.

You choose your life, man.  Nobody chooses it for you.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2009 04:15 PM (sPO/s)

89 But you don't even know you blame yourselves.

What was his other classic line about us?  It was something along the lines of "you're wrong, and you don't even know why you're wrong", I think.

Posted by: sandy burger at April 01, 2009 04:16 PM (twiRb)

90 I know that the GOP "leadership" has been sucking big donkey dicks for years now, but I still cannot believe that they help usher this jug-eared, inexperienced Marxist into the Oval Office.

Posted by: physics geek at April 01, 2009 04:16 PM (MT22W)

91 Pfffft. Work for government? In your dreams.

Put.Down.The.Barack.Pipe.

Erg I don't think you realize that many of us capitalist pig bosses here are still in a position to make sure that you lose your job. Austerity and all that.

Be sure to rip that Obama decal off of your Government Motors vehicle. I hear tell that they just may be an indicator of who will be getting the axe in the next round of layoffs.

Posted by: monkeyfan at April 01, 2009 04:17 PM (cEE8N)

92 Ah, yes. The never ending knucklehead self-hatred of workers.

The 'workers' from the job bank, paid to do nothing but show up because the Union demands they keep 'jobs.'  Even when there are no 'jobs' for them, GM has to pay them, and the Union confiscates their cut.  The cow dies, but the leeches keep sucking.

Posted by: nickless at April 01, 2009 04:17 PM (MMC8r)

93 Hillstrom didn't just choose to go to private school.  She chose to go to private school on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

They really don't get it.  Bernake has to be operating on the precondition that most Americans are fucking stupid.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 04:17 PM (AHrTm)

94 Bankruptcy? But I was going to get on the waiting list for the first model designed by the Obamessiah

Government Motors (GM) unveils its first model


Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 04:17 PM (miw86)

95 Bernake has to be operating on the precondition that most Americans are fucking stupid.

Evidence indicates the number is 52%.


Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2009 04:20 PM (/PEZV)

96 Ding fucking ding.

That is why bailouts of every stripe should ALWAYS be opposed.

Nothing good and nothing to further free markets can come from it.

The government must not be allowed to rape the economy and pick winners or losers.

Why did we need this lesson?

ANd fuck you George Bush for getting the ball rolling on this.

Posted by: nutmegory at April 01, 2009 04:20 PM (2bYlb)

97 Two big thumbs up from Hugo and Raul.

Posted by: kbiel at April 01, 2009 04:23 PM (HAib+)

98 CNN's Production Assistant Crackwhore wants you to pay off her useless college education loans to the tune of $115K.

From the piece..
Some might say, “Sam, you shouldn’t have gone to a private school in New York City if you wouldn’t be able to pay it off.” Well, I made a lot of mistakes when signing up for my loans, but I was uneducated on the process and on the repayment and now I’m stuck.

She's saying "I'm too stupid and lazy to check the terms of my loan, I'll call it "uneducated" and play the victim. Uneducated me plans on becoming a reporter so I can tell you what to think. For a very large salary that could pay back the loans, but why should I when I can stick you schmuck suckers out there with the loan"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 04:24 PM (miw86)

99 ergastularius at April 01, 2009 04:07 PM (etcrC)\

Didnt some union  guy remind us that Toyota employees (non union) make more per hour than union employees do?

Care to try again?

Posted by: lorien1973 at April 01, 2009 04:26 PM (IhQuA)

100

"Well, I made a lot of mistakes when signing up for my loans, but I was uneducated on the process and on the repayment and now I’m stuck."

Welcome to life outside of college.

Lesson #1:  MISKTAKES HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2009 04:27 PM (sPO/s)

101

#100  Reason, I was told when growing up, never sign anything you don't understand.

I think we should make that her Lesson #2.

Posted by: who knows at April 01, 2009 04:30 PM (7FgWm)

102 "Yeah, that's us in 200 15 years."

Fixed it for you.

Posted by: JB at April 01, 2009 04:31 PM (rVxHX)

103

No, no, no! This could work! Once they take over GM, the gummint can exempt themselves from CAFE, safety regs, and environmental regs and stamp out Tata Nanos like nobody's business.

Cheap cars for everyone!

 

Posted by: Anachronda at April 01, 2009 04:31 PM (3K4hn)

104 29 Somewhere along the line Ace's Knucfleheaded Mommy told him that unions unicorns hurt workers.

And that's the way it is, babe.
   ---erg

Posted by: EyeTest at April 01, 2009 04:31 PM (ip+1t)

105 And Michael Moore gets a chill up his leg from watching the mighty finally fall.

Posted by: jmflynny at April 01, 2009 04:35 PM (JIM+5)

106 More from that spoiled brat idiot twat:

I chose to go to a private school and I chose to work in a field where the starting salaries are low. Does that mean that I chose to live a life of struggle, wondering how I am going to pay my rent, afford the basics of living and still stay in my chosen career field…all while putting up with high interest rates and an amount of debt that brings me to tears?

In spite of your generation's attitude that a degree entitles you to a vice presidency and 6 figure salary within a week after your hire date, that's exactly what you chose.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 04:35 PM (miw86)

107 Just because I'd like to sit on Obama's lap and let him tickle my fanny doesn't mean I'm not a Republican.

Posted by: andros at April 01, 2009 04:35 PM (k39jK)

108

Yeah, $115,000 for student loans is insane outside of law or medical school. And even then, if you're going to borrow that much for law school you better damn well make sure you graduate in the top 10% of your class (or have relatives who work as partners in a firm that can get you a job) or you are fucked.

I went to a state school for my degrees (I've three of them) and I owe 25 grand. Hardly a budget buster, let me tell you. Of course, I didn't borrow willy nilly when I went. I took enough to cover what I needed. I knew people that took the whole fucking offer every semester. In graduate school, that was $10,000+ every semester. Now those jackoffs owe $70,000+ for their liberal arts degrees. Not smart, not smart at all.

Considering how my post college career has gone, I'd probably have been better off not even going. Job offers were better before I went. But I'll still be able to manage my debt because it's pretty low compared to what a lot of folks are carrying.

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 04:37 PM (gHrZU)

109 all that money should have been used for those cheap handbags/rolexes/hentai lesbo pr0n we always see.

Posted by: eddiebear at April 01, 2009 04:37 PM (wnU1W)

110 "Well, I made a lot of mistakes when signing up for my loans, but I was uneducated on the process and on the repayment and now I’m stuck."

Welcome to life outside of college.

Lesson #1: MISKTAKES HAVE CONSEQUENCES.


Lesson #2: YOU'VE BEEN SUCKING THE WRONG DICK, SAMANTHA.

You're at CNN - Anderson Cooper is all about the pole, not the hole. But it's not all gloom and doom - I'm sure that a girl with your qualifications could find a top-flight job in the secretarial or food-service industries.

Or porn. There aren't a lot of blonds who do porn - you should look into it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 01, 2009 04:38 PM (xGIqT)

111
oh hi andros

how do you feel about Obama trying to control controlling GM?

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 04:38 PM (9xxhL)

112 106 More from that spoiled brat idiot twat:

I chose to go to a private school and I chose to work in a field where the starting salaries are low. Does that mean that I chose to live a life of struggle, wondering how I am going to pay my rent, afford the basics of living and still stay in my chosen career field�all while putting up with high interest rates and an amount of debt that brings me to tears?

Honey, it means you're an idiot.  Your failure to plan properly is NOT my problem. 

Want to do something about it?  I recommend finding a "generous" older executive to help take care of your rent and bills until you pay off those loans because you're apparently not going to solve this issue by using your brains.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 01, 2009 04:39 PM (RKHDZ)

113 andros,

Thanks for coming in early to fill in for ergastularius. There'll be an extra jar of K-Y Jelly on your desk tomorrow!

Posted by: David Assholerod at April 01, 2009 04:40 PM (miw86)

114 Where do I go to get in on that robe and wizard hat thing?

Posted by: andros at April 01, 2009 04:41 PM (k39jK)

115 I chose to go to a private school and I chose to work in a field where the starting salaries are low. Does that mean that I chose to live a life of struggle,

…all while putting up with high interest rates and an amount of debt that brings me to tears?


Please tell me this is parody. Please. You know what, little Miss Tuffett? People like you make many of us want to see you fail. Because it's the only way you will learn anything. But you don't want to learn, you want to leech. I seriously hope you are mugged, and soon. If that won't unstuff your brainpan, nothing will.

In the end it won't matter, because you will just default on your obligations, and do nothing but blame everyone else. Your parents should be ashamed of you.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 04:43 PM (AZGON)

116

#94...

"hand signals to communicate with fellow drivers in a more efficient and exact manner. "

My guess would be that, like myself, most others here have already mastered the art of communicating through hand signals. One signal can say so much.

Posted by: jmflynny at April 01, 2009 04:43 PM (JIM+5)

117
andros, do you believe in the global warming hoax?

Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 04:44 PM (9xxhL)

118 @107 andros

?????

The Dow was up yesterday.

Where does Ed get his financial news?

It's particularly rich to see this coming from you.  Since when has observable fact and verity been of interest to you?

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 04:44 PM (4sSHg)

119 100 years of pork, not so much.

Posted by: andros at April 01, 2009 04:41 PM (k39jK)

mmmmm..... pork.

100 years, 200 years, whatever. Those asses won't grow huge on arugula you know. UAW Fatasses need lots of pork to fill those lawn chairs we put on the sidewalks in front of the plants.

Posted by: Ron Smellmyfinger at April 01, 2009 04:45 PM (miw86)

120 That does it, I'm going to pole-dancing school.

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 04:47 PM (g+PZY)

121

Please tell me this is parody. Please. You know what, little Miss Tuffett? People like you make many of us want to see you fail. Because it's the only way you will learn anything. But you don't want to learn, you want to leech. I seriously hope you are mugged, and soon. If that won't unstuff your brainpan, nothing will.

Well, at least she's working in her chosen field. She's not leeching. Yet. She ought to give serious consideration to stripping at night. She could pay those loans off in no time.

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 04:47 PM (gHrZU)

122 Where did all that "transparency" go?  WHO was supposed to keep track of where and how the money was spent?  Where's the spreadsheet?

Posted by: GarandFan at April 01, 2009 04:49 PM (x9n+V)

123 Quit paying your bills, Samantha. It's not like you can be arrested for defaulting on your loan.

Steal someone's identity to fraudulently run up $5000 of credit card charges? Criminal.

Borrow $115,000 with no hope of ever paying it back? Somehow sympathetic.

Bullshit. If I were in charge of Sallie Mae, I'd sell Samantha to some fucking sheik or white slaver in Serbia. Can't pay your loan? Gimme some collateral or it's coming out of your vajay-jay.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 01, 2009 04:49 PM (xGIqT)

124 She's definitely good looking enough to strip for extra cash. Is it degrading? Probably, but she'll make a fucking shitload of money for the next few years that will more than pay off those loans. It might suck, but such is the world we live in. You gotta work with what the good lord gave ya.

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 04:51 PM (gHrZU)

125 @121 jaleach

She ought to give serious consideration to stripping at night.

As some true genius posted here long ago in the context of girls who pull trains, self-esteem is not for everyone.  Ms. Hillstrom's piece and her chosen profession confirm it. 

She could retire that debt in no time if should would just. Go.  All. THE. WAY!!!

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 04:52 PM (4sSHg)

126 But my boss Andi Cooper didn't have to go through such poverty! Oh wait, who did you say his mommy was? Gloria vandersomething?

I've been here for 3 months! Why haven't they promoted me to executive producer? I have a DEGREE dammit!

Posted by: Samantha Hillstrom, CNN crack whore at April 01, 2009 04:52 PM (miw86)

127 Dear Monty:

I heart you.

Heart and whatnot,  Alex

Damn.  I should have figured out how to make that display in pink flashing sparkly text for the full effect.


Posted by: alexthechick at April 01, 2009 04:54 PM (SHHaV)

128 @124 jaleach

She's definitely good looking enough to strip for extra cash.

Heh.  I'd gladly bankroll a smelly hobo to sit for a lapdance or two from her. 

I'd pay him extra if he butters her popcorn during the show, IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 04:55 PM (4sSHg)

129 Dear Samantha,

"Sex and the City" was just a tv show. Welcome to Hopenchange Real World, you dumb twat

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 04:55 PM (miw86)

130 Hopefully, in 20 years, she'll be able to look back at that column and be embarrassed.  Or she'll just be the same self-absorbed crybaby she is at 23.

Posted by: nickless at April 01, 2009 04:56 PM (MMC8r)

131 Go to the big boss's office, bend over and spread 'em. Beats living on ramen noodles, dear.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at April 01, 2009 04:57 PM (miw86)

132 Obama's a fucking GENIUS, man!!!

Posted by: Stupid Hippie at April 01, 2009 04:57 PM (Tq7Eu)

133 MikeO,

You bring Teh Ruthless. I approve.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 01, 2009 04:58 PM (xGIqT)

134 120 That does it, I'm going to pole-dancing school.

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 04:47 PM (g+PZY)

I love to see the florishing of the entrepreneurial spirit....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 04:58 PM (7YgGp)

135 Please tell me this is all just an April fools joke!

Ace still likes Grapes, Yo? -- Teh' grape shit is still, like, on, right?... huh?

You can makes wine from grapes, BTW.



Posted by: joetee at April 01, 2009 04:59 PM (prdCq)

136 Don't you come near my husband and my network president you little golddigging slut!

Posted by: Andrea Wetpanties Mitchell at April 01, 2009 05:00 PM (miw86)

137 Granted, if Obama actually demands a GM board stocked with the likes of Ralph Nader and Jane Fonda, the company is screwed.

However, let's give credit where credit is due:

1. Wagoner deserved to be fired; he led GM on its death dive for the last decade. He went hat in hand to Obama, instead of doing the right thing - filing for bankruptcy. He agreed to quit! After all, he could have told Obama to fuck off and stick his money, and file for Chapter 12 instead right up to the last minute.

2. That said, it's GOOD that GM may wind up forced into bankruptcy, along with Chrysler: best thing for them.

3. Oh yeah... too bad about the $12 billion. Sucks. But wasn't it Bush that gave them the loan? Anyway, it might still get recovered.

So... if Obama forces GM to actually do what analyst after analyst said they should (shut down or ditch Pontiac, Saturn, Hummer, Saab, and get out from under their UAW obligations) it will be good for GM, and finally give it the chance it needed all along.

But I agree: if Obama tries to make GM the world's first Envirowhacko Car Company... GM's death will only be put for a while longer, or until Uncle Sugar gets tired of keeping it on life support.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 01, 2009 05:00 PM (iafWn)

138 A shame and a mistake. But isn't it refreshing to have a president that can learn from his mistakes? And change? Very refreshing after the last 8 years of failure to admit mistakes and adapt.

Posted by: RRowdy at April 01, 2009 05:00 PM (D2t2Y)

139 alexthechick:

I heart you right back, m'lady.

Posted by: Monty at April 01, 2009 05:01 PM (dCZbI)

140 Can anyone tell me where to find a good vibrator in London? I'm so worked up reporting on Teleprompter Messiah that I can't hold back much longer

Posted by: Ann Compton at April 01, 2009 05:02 PM (miw86)

141 Speaking as a former union member (Teamsters Local 383, Machinists/IAMAW local 1426), I can testify that it's pretty sweet getting paid 3x the minimum wage for a job a minimally competent chimpanzee could do. Until the company wises up and realizes the chimps in Tennessee don't go on strike.

Message for the brain-dead CNN producer making $1200 a month trying to pay off a $100k+ J-school loan: my 16 year old daughter makes $8/hour slicing sammiches at the sub shop, and would be happy to trade jobs with you. Although you may require training.

Posted by: iowahawk at April 01, 2009 05:02 PM (veL4N)

142 I picked the most expensive school for a low-paying career. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.

I live in the most expensive city in the nation, and housing is sky high for a crackerbox. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.

I have to drive a car in a state with high fuel and insurance prices. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.

I shop at stores that sell expensive food and clothing, it's all expensive here. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.

I picked the finest doctor and dentist in the Manhattan area. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.

I deserve a vacation as much as anyone. The French Riviera has gotten very pricey. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.

I want to send my kids to private school because they are your future too. It's not fair I have to pay so much, the rest of you have to pay it for me.





Just pay me. I own you, and always will, as long as you let me blackmail you with your guilt.

Posted by: The Uncensored Liberal Mind at April 01, 2009 05:03 PM (AZGON)

143 The saddest thing about that article wasn't the thing itself, it was all the comments in the train of it that were all, "Oh, well said!"  "Thank you for this article!"  One was very, very sure that CNN had already given her a raise upon reading said wonderful intelligent article!

And that, my friends, is why I end each semester at the college I teach with my head in my hands, because they are almost. all.  like. this.  I cannot tell you how many times I've had students come weeping up to me AFTER the final wondering if they can turn in papers that were due, like, a month ago.

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 05:03 PM (g+PZY)

144

She could retire that debt in no time if should would just. Go.  All. THE. WAY!!!

Heh. She wants to be a journalist. Self-respect isn't an issue in that field. An ego the size of Montana, yes, but self-respect? No. She made a bad decision. She fucked up. The first step in recovering is admitting you fucked up and then figuring out how to fix it. How can she make a shitload of money fairly quickly? Stripping. She won't even have to quit her real job. Just work nights and weekends at the strip joint.

As an aside, her account of her troubles just kills me. How does she think tuition got so out of control in the first place? Because the government got involved and the schools started jacking tuition up as a result. That, and suddenly every university decided to become a mini-federal government with all sorts of "programs" and "projects" that have no fucking place in higher education. All that diversity bullshit. Libraries that look like stadium sized Starbucks coffee houses. A laptop for every student. Oversized faculty salaries. When the boomers went to college, those fucks could work in the summer and afford all of their education costs. Try doing that now. Asking the government to get more involved will only result in even higher education costs.

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 05:05 PM (gHrZU)

145 Sell off Chevy to a company that still actually loves cars. Sell Caddy to BWM. Sell Pontiac to Toyota. Sell Buick to Mercedes.

What's left over, Chairman Teleprompter can build fleet ecoboxes as government cars. This is in reality the UAW Fatass Preservation Act anyway.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 05:06 PM (miw86)

146 Until the company wises up and realizes the chimps in Tennessee don't go on strike.

Oh, sure. Until the nukes fly. Then the radiation gets to the chimps. Then you know what you have? Radioactive monkeys! And if thirty years of pulp sci-fi has taught me anything, it's this: you cannot depend on radioactive monkeys! They are liable to do anything, up to and including becoming supervillains!

Will we learn nothing from the Planet of the Apes documentaries?

...or was that not the point you were trying to make, 'Hawk?

Posted by: Monty at April 01, 2009 05:08 PM (dCZbI)

147 But I agree: if Obama tries to make GM the world's first Envirowhacko Car Company... GM's death will only be put for a while longer, or until Uncle Sugar gets tired of keeping it on life support runs out of American taxpayer's money.

FIFY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 05:08 PM (7YgGp)

148 Oversized faculty salaries.

Not all of us, believe me.  Those of us who are in Adjunct Nation teach the shit courses the Lord and Mighty tenured fucks won't lower themselves to (without benefits, of course), so as to keep their schedules free for "Pentagon Bombing 400" with Tenured Professor Bill Ayers.

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 05:08 PM (g+PZY)

149 @141: Screw you, Iowahawk! We chimps have organized as the United Simian Autoworkers and Satirists. A million of us have come up with a nice parody of Hamlet we'd like you to consider posting on your website...

Posted by: Minimally Competent Chimpanzee at April 01, 2009 05:09 PM (iafWn)

150 #143 - I know exactly what you mean. Before I ditched the academia for the private sector, my college students were all filled with a sense of entitlement. Never mind they don't deserve it, they should get an A and graduate with a 4.0 straight into a $100,000/year job. Needless to say, their first few semesters were pretty rough, academically speaking.

Posted by: IC at April 01, 2009 05:10 PM (jZNCU)

151 "hope some of you assholes here have lost your job, but have the moral fortitude to refuse unemployment insurance and job offers produced by the keynsian stimulus"

Why should one refuse something they have paid for?  I paid  for the "insurance", don't I get to use it?  Oh, and I get back far less than I paid.  Let me make it simple for you erg...I paid for the whole Happy Meal and only got the empty bag.

Posted by: SJR2 at April 01, 2009 05:12 PM (y8Ojq)

152 Filly, very curious what you say. What do you think... I suspect that vast hordes of soft-brained college graduates will simply default on their loans and refuse to pay. I suspect most government-backed student loans aren't worth a penny on the dollar. It all goes on the public's back in the end. The new fascist order will "forgive" enormous sums in student loans, by legislative fiat, in the coming years.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 05:12 PM (AZGON)

153 Decisions, decisions...all these choices.  Heck, do we make 15mph rubber bumper cars for safety or do we make three wheelers with 2cly engines for global warming?

Go ahead and try to race that!

Can I get a windmill on top of that one please.  Trucks?  No, we don't need no stinkin' trucks, let the people carry stuff on their heads in the traditional way.  There are no construction jobs anyway.

If I put Ralph Nader on the board, will he sue himself?

All these decisions.  Damn.

Posted by: President Obama at April 01, 2009 05:13 PM (VotgB)

154 That does it, I'm going to pole-dancing school.

Filly,

You do realize that in addition to completing a 2 year post grad course on pole dancing, you won't be eligible for state certification until you've done your full time unpaid 6 mo. internship?

How do you think you're going to swing that without me?


Posted by: Sallie Mae at April 01, 2009 05:13 PM (1jglO)

155 This isn't FAIR!!!  Rachel, Ross, Monica, Chandler, Phoebe, and Joey lived in such a nice huge apartment. Well, I do too but it's just not FAIR that I have to pay 6000 a month rent and 1200 a month in student loan payments


Posted by: Samantha Hillstrom, CNN crack whore at April 01, 2009 05:13 PM (miw86)

156 Oh, sure. Until the nukes fly. Then the radiation gets to the chimps. Then you know what you have? Radioactive monkeys! And if thirty years of pulp sci-fi has taught me anything, it's this: you cannot depend on radioactive monkeys! They are liable to do anything, up to and including becoming supervillains!

Will we learn nothing from the Planet of the Apes documentaries?

Holy fuck, I'm dyin' here.

Monty, you bastard. Now I have to really bring my game to even get in the same zip code as Monty-funny. And I'm not even close to being up to the task.

Oh well, there's always drink.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2009 05:15 PM (7YgGp)

157

Filly at April 01, 2009 05:08 PM (g+PZY)

You have my sympathy, believe me. I was a TA while in graduate school, and I saw up close and personal how things play out. It's why I chose not to go on for a doctorate. Why kill myself for the next ten years and still not get a tenure track job?

Another reason was the students. They sucked. Over 90% didn't belong in college. Couldn't write, couldn't form a coherent argument, couldn't spell. Being a TA, I graded thousands of tests. Every time I stumbled over a smart kid's exam I cried with joy. Such elation was a rarity, sadly.

When I referred to oversize faculty salaries, I meant tenured profs. Adjuncts are indentured servants (TAs are slaves, but I got lucky and worked for a cool prof that liked me and gave me hardly anything to do. Easiest money I ever made).

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 05:18 PM (gHrZU)

158 You do realize that in addition to completing a 2 year post grad course on pole dancing, you won't be eligible for state certification until you've done your full time unpaid 6 mo. internship?

How do you think you're going to swing that without me?

But... but I picked a private school in the overpriced piece of real estate in the Western Hemisphere!  How could this possibly have gone wrong?!

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 05:20 PM (g+PZY)

159 Student loans have been securitized just like mortgages, credit card debt, and car loans. Writing them off or "lowering them to 1 percent", or just plain forgiving them throws another huge turd into the toxic assets punch bowl.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 05:20 PM (miw86)

160 @159: did I mention we dabble in economic policy, too?

Posted by: Minimally Competent Chimpanzee at April 01, 2009 05:23 PM (iafWn)

161 jaleach, thank you for making me feel better... the only lower form of life on a campus than an adjunct is a TA. 

Usual Collegiate Order of Importance:
1) NCAA athletes (football and basketball ONLY)
2) Students' mommies
3) Students





4) Assistant to the Undersecretary of the Dean


5) Rest of faculty


6) People in charge of salting the french fries in the dining hall





7) Adjuncts
TA's

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 05:24 PM (g+PZY)

162 If a twatwaffle like Samantha is at all representative of as little as 25% of twentysomethings, I think we might need an invasion of radioactive chimps. An asteroid or two would be helpful too.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 05:25 PM (AZGON)

163 Then you know what you have? Radioactive monkeys! And if thirty years of pulp sci-fi has taught me anything, it's this: you cannot depend on radioactive monkeys! They are liable to do anything, up to and including becoming supervillains!

That's the BEST-case scenario. Worst-case, you have Matthew Broderick running around defying authority and Helen Hunt refusing to show her titties.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 01, 2009 05:27 PM (xGIqT)

164 What do you think... I suspect that vast hordes of soft-brained college graduates will simply default on their loans and refuse to pay.

Without a doubt.  They EARNED it, after all. I heard a line on a sitcom in passing which stated, "But your education is your right!"  I about hurled the remote out the window, but it seemed more efficient to just cram it up my ass.  Saved everybody the trouble.

Posted by: Filly at April 01, 2009 05:28 PM (g+PZY)

165 Mmm baby, government manufactured cars.  This is gonna be good folks.

I am glad Obama is failing.

Posted by: Walgreens Check Out Clerk at April 01, 2009 05:29 PM (X69s8)

166 Ms. Hillstrom graduated with a BA in Communication Arts.

Ugh.  You can get this degree from just about any state school for very inexpensive costs.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 05:32 PM (VeUJ4)

167 I about hurled the remote out the window, but it seemed more efficient to just cram it up my ass.

PLEASE DESCRIBE YOUR EXPERIENCE IN VERY SPECIFIC DETAILS!

Posted by: Barney Frank at April 01, 2009 05:33 PM (rEPj1)

168 #162

How about chaos?

In the end, there will be only.... asteroid chaos?!?!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at April 01, 2009 05:33 PM (otlXg)

169

Filly,

At the school I went to, tenured profs were required to teach entry level courses. I graded many of those exams. Adjuncts also taught those classes (before they got rid of adjuncts and cut the number of classes due to budget cuts). They DID NOT get TAs to help them.

I had a cool prof as a boss who only made me grade exams, and even then he insisted that he grade half of them. How cool is that? My fellow TAs were running around like shit flinging chimps and I'm there surfing the Internet during my office hours going, "What's the big deal?" Easy money.

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 05:33 PM (gHrZU)

170 GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY TRANSMISSION YOU DAMNED DIRTY CHIMP!

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 01, 2009 05:34 PM (1AonH)

171
Remeber that movie with the MONKEY who helped that GUY IN THE WHHELCHAIR and the MONKEY turned into an EVIL LITTLE BASTARD?


Posted by: Darwing Plover at April 01, 2009 05:34 PM (9xxhL)

172 One of my friends works as a stripper.  Her bedroom closet is full of shoe boxes packed full of cash.  Her condo and car are both paid off and she owes zero money to anyone.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 01, 2009 05:34 PM (ysoZG)

173

Ugh.  You can get this degree from just about any state school for very inexpensive costs.

But then you don't get to work for teh CNN. You end up polishing the knob of a fat, greasy station manager at KRAP-TV in Podunk, Missouri. That's simply unacceptable for our darling. She's big time, baby!

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 05:36 PM (gHrZU)

174

ahh fuck i had my money on $30 billion before bankruptcy.

Posted by: Unamerican hate mongering evil libertarian at April 01, 2009 05:36 PM (2J+Vs)

175 172 One of my friends works as a stripper. Her bedroom closet is full of shoe boxes packed full of cash. Her condo and car are both paid off and she owes zero money to anyone.

That's cause unionized chimps like us pay well for a good piece of stripper ass....

Posted by: Minimally Competent Chimpanzee at April 01, 2009 05:36 PM (iafWn)

176 One of my friends works as a stripper.  Her bedroom closet is full of shoe boxes packed full of cash.  Her condo and car are both paid off and she owes zero money to anyone.

Yes, PA, your mom is an inspiration to all of us.

Posted by: Monty at April 01, 2009 05:38 PM (dCZbI)

177 The Purple Avenger said:

One of my friends works as a stripper.  Her bedroom closet is full of shoe boxes packed full of cash.  Her condo and car are both paid off and she owes zero money to anyone.

But next year the dollar wont be worth shit.

Posted by: Walgreens Check Out Clerk at April 01, 2009 05:39 PM (X69s8)

178 @144 jaleach

RE:  Self-respect

I devised a rule when I was in school:  Humiliation is like pain in that the vectors superimpose rather than sum end-to-end.  When you hurt in multiple places, you feel only where it hurts the most.

Some believe that I use this rule to justify humiliating people to myself since nothing is added so long as I don't humiliate them more than they already humiliate themselves.  What would be the point of that?

The more interesting corollary is that it is impossible to make your point with people like Ms. Hillstrom unless you start with humiliation that exceeds their not inconsiderable self-debasement, hence my offer to bankroll a hobo hot butter dispensing machine.

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 05:39 PM (4sSHg)

179 Reasons College got so expensive:

Staffing the Office of Redundancy Office:  Your typical college administration has now at least 5 people doing the exact same job in 5 different departments.  Then you get into the hierarchy:  Veeps, Assistant Veeps, Associate Veeps, Deans, Assistant Deans, Associate Deans, Adjunct Deans, Dept. Chairs, Assistant Dept. Chairs, Associate Chairs, etc etc etc........

Assuaging the Liberal Guilt:  You've got to have the following on campus, bare minimum:  Women's Office, Minority Office (lots of schools break these up further into actual ethnicity;  Black Students Office, Hispanic Students Office, etc.)  GLTQWTFBBQ Office, Non-traditional Students Office, etc.  And their budgets may never be cut, lest you wish to be portrayed as bigoted hater.

Misplaced Ire:  College is now the standard American educational goal, for better or for worse.  Colleges can basically set what fees and tuition they want and people will still be lining up to apply.  Then, angry newscasts and letters to the editor start popping up about how "College dreams are slipping away from the people", and the response is................raise the limits for Stafford loans and re-adjust interest rates.  What was the last major school to :LOWER tuition and fees?  They increase costs because they know they can get away with it.

Competing for Princeton Review Scores:  All students issued laptops, iPods, Blackberrys, I2 access, passes to Transgendered Armenian Appreciation Bonanza, and a valet named Jeeves!  What fun (BTW:  Parents, all checks made out to ________ Bursar's Office, thank you in advance).

Student Loan Sharks:  Of course, it's reasonable to get into $125k of non-negotiable debt for a BA in Asian Art.  You'll be curating the Met in 6 weeks after graduation, no worries!  Sign here, please.

Posted by: Techie at April 01, 2009 05:41 PM (QYuCD)

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Posted by: Evil Elvis at April 01, 2009 05:44 PM (miw86)

181 Ah, forgot something near and dear to our little CNN friend.

JOKE MAJORS

I'm sure the curriculum at (I'm guessing Barnard or Columbia from the context clues) is so vastly superior to a Communications degree from say, SUNY Buffalo or Stony Brook as to be worth that additional $60k.  Hell, I'm certain that CUNY offers a Communication degree, if she must absolutely stay in Manhattan.  Fordham and NYU are ready when you are, honey.

Of course, this could also speak volumes about the hiring practices at CNN and how they've come to be staffed by MENSA members.

This also applies to :

Journalism
______ Studies
General Studies
Liberal Arts



BTW, CNN is still based out of Atlanta, so why didn't she go to Emory, Oglethorpe, or hell, Mercer?

Posted by: Techie at April 01, 2009 05:49 PM (QYuCD)

182 Student loans have been securitized just like mortgages, credit card debt, and car loans. Writing them off or "lowering them to 1 percent", or just plain forgiving them throws another huge turd into the toxic assets punch bowl.

Yes.  But the real problem is this is the next 'constituency' in line at the Bank of Obama.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 05:50 PM (VeUJ4)

183 Ms. Hillstrom graduated with a BA in Communication Arts.

Ugh.  You can get this degree from just about any state school for very inexpensive costs.

Hell, you can even get one from an Ag school. (Or so I hear.)

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 05:54 PM (1jglO)

184 Liberal Arts is a solid degree.  But you need to be an individual with the high capacity for understanding the curriculum and how you can apply the skills to producing for yourself.

We need so much more Charles Murray and so much less John Dewey.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 05:54 PM (VeUJ4)

185

An asteroid or two would be helpful too.

Oh, it will only take one,... c'est moi.  But, I think I'll wait for you to get down on your knees and beg, bitches.

Posted by: Big Fucking Asteroid at April 01, 2009 05:54 PM (ZrS0c)

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During my weekly foie gras luncheons with the lads down at the Epicurean Club, I like to bring certain unfortunate cases to the attention of my companions, so we can possibly do some good while at the same time fending off the deadly ennui that threatens to consume our lives. We noodled about with several ideas and I think we have come up with a solution that will help you and provide us with the diversion we so desperately crave.

If you undertake to come to the club every day from two-ish until six-ish and peform the actions which I will detail later, we will take over the payments on your student  loan until such a time as the debt is settled or your humiliation and self-loathing drives you to suicide.

The lads have agreed to grant you exclusive use of the "blue room" upstairs, and to inform the staff to provide you with clean linens, towels, and access to the club toilet. However, you will be responsible for procuring such lotions, oils, appurtenances, apparatuses, aids, and gels as any Epicurean member may require as part of the transaction. You are also responsible for your own laundry fees and costs associated with emergency-room visits, bail, etc.

Please refer to overleaf #1 for specific duties you will be required to perform. Overleaf #2 is a legal disclaimer which you will be required to sign and have notarized.

We look forward to working with you!

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Chet Lollard, Knickerbocker, Boulevardier and Man-About-Town

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Posted by: Evil Elvis at April 01, 2009 05:56 PM (miw86)

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Posted by: Techie at April 01, 2009 05:58 PM (QYuCD)

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Posted by: Cincinnatus at April 01, 2009 05:58 PM (K5AMb)

190 Shit.  Samantha Hillstrom was editor of the Marymount College student newspaper.  She was also not just a member of the "Senior Marshals".  She was the chair.

We're fucked if this is what student leaders look like after graduation.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at April 01, 2009 06:00 PM (VeUJ4)

191 News reports say Obama is going to visit the Queen. Why has no one told me he's on his way, I have to get the good candlesticks out!

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 01, 2009 06:01 PM (miw86)

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Posted by: toby928 at April 01, 2009 06:02 PM (PD1tk)

193 Marymount? the one in VA?

No, Marymount Manhattan..................LOL.  Millionaire's Daycare, and she's wondering how she got that much debt!

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Entertaining horny stockbrokers and paying off student loans and living expenses without taxpayer bailout = PRICELESS

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2009 06:06 PM (miw86)

195 I have to get the good candlesticks out!

Slow down there buddy!  You don't want to hurt yourself.

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 06:07 PM (1jglO)

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My buddy took some singles, folded them lengthwise, rubbed some baby oil on them and stuck them in with dickhead's laundry.

The real punchline was that dickhead had met his wife in a strip club--she was a dancer--and she went ballistic when she found the bills.

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 06:08 PM (4sSHg)

197

Did they really advertise this dumb ass fucktwat as the smartest president ? What a fucking joke. Is somebody adding all these idiotic moves hour by hour instead of day by day ? Un fucking believable.

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Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2009 06:23 PM (2hcV2)

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Posted by: Johanna Lapp at April 01, 2009 06:27 PM (xqhoO)

200 CNBC reporting that it is possible that AIG is paying european banks at 100 cents on the dollar and American banks as little as 30 cents on the dollar.

Posted by: muffy at April 01, 2009 06:27 PM (zplc6)

201 Oh and btw, if you don't come from money and you want to go to law school, almost any law school, you have to take loans. Sure you can work or go to night school, and that's fine, but if you want to make it out in 3 years you got to expect to take some debt on. That being said, nobody but nobody owes me anything for the cost of my education but me. I signed the documents, it's my ass. And if I can't pay, for whatever reason, it's my ass.

Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2009 06:43 PM (2hcV2)

202 Oh and btw, if you don't come from money and you want to go to law school, almost any law school, you have to take loans.

Just be careful who you end up working for in that first job when you're done ...

Posted by: Mitch McDeere at April 01, 2009 06:47 PM (vyzdL)

203 "201 Oh and btw, if you don't come from money and you want to go to law school, almost any law school, you have to take loans. Sure you can work or go to night school, and that's fine, but if you want to make it out in 3 years you got to expect to take some debt on. That being said, nobody but nobody owes me anything for the cost of my education but me. I signed the documents, it's my ass. And if I can't pay, for whatever reason, it's my ass.

Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2009 06:43 PM (2hcV2)"

There is a petition somewhere online, saw it the other day, to bailout student loans and forgive them.

Posted by: muffy at April 01, 2009 06:54 PM (zplc6)

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Posted by: steevy at April 01, 2009 06:54 PM (jNxRh)

205

I've put numerous young ladies through college...one single at a time.(plus $20 in the lap dance room)

I once helped a young lass pay off her boob job with this technique.

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 06:58 PM (gHrZU)

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Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 06:59 PM (AZGON)

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Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 01, 2009 07:03 PM (v1djO)

208

Well, Sammy can forget about stripping. I hit Google and found a pic. Scroll down to the last one on the page. This gal has an ass that puts Lt. Worf to shame:

http://tinyurl.com/cbtb2w

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 07:03 PM (gHrZU)

209 #208
Was that Marymount or a livestock pen? Sheesh. I didn't know you could get a swine to wear organdy.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 07:06 PM (AZGON)

210 Obama's Revenge Against GM.   Great piece from American Thinker.

What does a true grandiose narcissist do when he begins to fail, openly, visibly and in public, right in front of 300 million people, over and over and over again?
You tell me.

Posted by: sis at April 01, 2009 07:11 PM (hm0CN)

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Posted by: Latest Troll at April 01, 2009 07:21 PM (MHx40)

212 I've put numerous young ladies through college...

Huh.  Dental Technicians need a B.A. now?  Who knew?

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 07:26 PM (1jglO)

213 I loved that link:

I chose to go to a private school and I chose to work in a field where the starting salaries are low. Does that mean that I chose to live a life of struggle, wondering how I am going to pay my rent, afford the basics of living and still stay in my chosen career field�all while putting up with high interest rates and an amount of debt that brings me to tears?

Note that nowhere in there did it say "worked part time" or anything like that.

Posted by: Jay at April 01, 2009 07:37 PM (iy1Xt)

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Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 01, 2009 07:39 PM (ysoZG)

215 Let's not allow this precious snowflake to pass by unremarked:

I also chose a private college to pursue my bachelor degree. I graduated in 2005 with the hope of becoming a teacher or working for a non-profit. Unfortunately I was left with the over 70,000 in debt and monthly payments (interest only) of more than $600. Now four years later my outstanding balance has grown to $87,000…and i am working a nanny to maintain the income necessary just to make my monthly payments-which dont even make an impact! I can’t give back to the community and apply my teaching skills when the salary doesnt cut it. I feel stuck and abused by the system.

You shouldn't feel abused by the system, sweetheart.  You should be livid at the cruel prankster that convinced you that you needed a college degree to be a baby-sitter.

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 07:46 PM (1jglO)

216 Some might say, “Sam, you shouldn’t have gone to a private school in New York City if you wouldn’t be able to pay it off.” Well, I made a lot of mistakes when signing up for my loans, but I was uneducated on the process and on the repayment and now I’m stuck.

Uneducated on the process and the repayment? Who cares about the process, how uneducated do you have to be to know that once you sign those papers you're on the hook for that money? If she really was "uneducated", why didn't she have mommy and daddy there to educate her?

And to top it all off, where exactly were this chick's parents to tell her, "Honey, do you really think it's a good idea to rack up $115K in undergraduate debt to be a reporter?"

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 01, 2009 07:48 PM (fc4BE)

217 I can’t give back to the community and apply my teaching skills when the salary doesnt cut it.

Listen, you pimply white gash, you don't give back, you are the one who takes from the community, to the tune of $87K. Paying your debts is the minimum we expect of you, and you will not do so. You are a thief. You contribute nothing.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 01, 2009 07:49 PM (AZGON)

218 I've never met a stripper that actually finished college. 

Posted by: Walgreens Check Out Clerk at April 01, 2009 07:51 PM (X69s8)

219 Hehehe...starting to look reeeaaallll smart buying that Pontiac now that it's backed by good gubmint money.

I got a brake light out.....yo, Obama!

Posted by: redstatedeb at April 01, 2009 07:53 PM (ykmvs)

220 I never said they actually got DEGREES...#215 that the same dingbat??

Posted by: steevy at April 01, 2009 07:55 PM (jNxRh)

221 Hey, Walgreens, I actually did meet a stripper who finished college, but it was for one of those Guiness Book of Records thingys. Wooooot!!11!

Posted by: redstatedeb at April 01, 2009 07:56 PM (ykmvs)

222 I can’t give back to the community and apply my teaching skills when the salary doesnt cut it.


If her "teaching skills" touch even remotely on the subjects of basic composition or mathematics, I would just as lief she not apply them.

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 07:59 PM (1jglO)

223 #220

No.  Different dingbat that "can relate to your personal struggle in every way!" in the comments.

Posted by: Deety at April 01, 2009 08:04 PM (1jglO)

224

If her "teaching skills" touch even remotely on the subjects of basic composition or mathematics, I would just as lief she not apply them.

Ha. That's what I thought when I read that. I always cut everyone slack over posts to blogs and websites since most comments are made quickly and usually without the benefit of a spellchecker. We all make mistakes and don't catch them. But that dolt really churned out some crap. How was she able to post a comment written with a crayon?

Posted by: jaleach at April 01, 2009 08:07 PM (gHrZU)

225 I fear it wont be long before the gubmint has a student loan bailout.

Posted by: steevy at April 01, 2009 08:10 PM (jNxRh)

226 Man, the pics of the chick are frightening. She has old lady arms. She needs to call Michelle to get some arm toning tips.

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Posted by: 海佩货架 at April 01, 2009 08:25 PM (Xf8DY)

228 If 14 Billion$$$ has gone into GM, that means to me that the property, plant, and equipment has been "nationalized" by duh1.

The entity is not bankrupt...it bit the apple and lost its soul.

The creditors can get bailed out too.

This is evil.

This will not end well.

All hail Lord Obama!

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But ... hey well - back on topic - yeah this financial crisis is a ECONOMIC VIETNAM - call Kissenger and Nixon to get us out of this fucked up mess!  We keep throwing CASH into this damn meatgrinder!

Posted by: HondaV65 at April 01, 2009 08:41 PM (9vlDt)

Posted by: ceaecw at April 01, 2009 08:53 PM (YRTmg)

231 Oh and btw, if you don't come from money and you want to go to law school, almost any law school, you have to take loans.

No, the Green Machine has nice programs for Lawyers, Doctors, and other limited line communities.  Degree, experience, certification, job, and paycheck.  There are always options.

Posted by: Jean at April 01, 2009 09:33 PM (xCBQ4)

232 @208 jaleach

This gal has an ass that puts Lt. Worf to shame:

Well, I'm sure there are certain parts of town where that huge ass would be a huge asset.

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 10:18 PM (4sSHg)

233 @218 Walgreens Check Out Clerk

I've never met a stripper that actually finished college. 

At Club XTC on Manor Road outside of Austin, Texas, somewhere around 2000/2001, there was a dancer working there who taught English at a private high school.

She's the one who told me that the full nude joints were better for the girls since they served no liquor (BYOB) and since the bouncers were a lot more protective.  She had worked titty joints in the city, and things were way too wild.

Posted by: MikeO at April 01, 2009 10:23 PM (4sSHg)

234 Report Reality: Obama to Force GM USA Into BankruptcyFIFY

Posted by: rockhead at April 02, 2009 12:00 AM (DvaIL)

235 These days fourteen billion is chump change, the sort of thing the Feds lose behind the seat cushions. Any bailout below a hundred billion is hardly worthy of note. What's the total price tag on this thing so far, twelve trillion dollars?

Posted by: flenser at April 02, 2009 07:41 AM (X62da)

236

This is a bluff.

There is NO way that Obama is going to put the fate of the UAW in the hands of a bankruptcy judge when he can pull puppet strings. 

He installed a CEO that is more favorable to unions, and what did it cost him?  Nothing.  It may have enven made him more popular.

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