Tim Geithner...Dumber Than A Box Of Rocks (With All Due Apologies To Boxes And Rocks)

Timmah "The Only Man Who Can Save Us" nearly tanked the dollar because he's, how do I put this? Oh yeah, a fucking moron.

Yesterday China floated the idea of a new currency to replace the dollar.

Today Timmy said, "neato!"

"I haven’t read the governor’s proposal. He’s a very thoughtful, very careful distinguished central banker. I generally find him sensible on every issue," Geithner said, saying that however his interpretation of the proposal was to increase the use of International Monetary Fund's special drawing rights -- shares in the body held by its members -- not creating a new currency in the literal sense.
"We’re actually quite open to that suggestion – you should see it as rather evolutionary rather building on the current architecture rather than moving us to global monetary union," he said.

Even the moderator of the event saw this was a problem and kind of got Timmah back on track

Needless to say, in the mean time currency traders ran for the hills.

When asked last night at his news conference this same issue, Obama said, "I don't believe that there's a need for a global currency." See the difference? When even Obama gets it and you don't, there's a problem.

And yes, I get there's a technical difference in what he's talking about, 'special drawing rights', and a new currency. The thing is, the Treasury Secretary isn't some anonymous technocrat, he's the global spokesman for the US government on financial matters. Geithner doesn't seem to understand he's not back at the NY Fed or the IMF talking theoretically with his fellow economists and bankers. This is a bigger and broader job and one he's clearly not up to.

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Posted by: bill-tb at March 25, 2009 12:15 PM (7evkT)

2 He must want to tank the dollar- he's trying hard to do it.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at March 25, 2009 12:16 PM (gbGqE)

Can't we just do a Ctl+Alt+Del on the whole fucking administration.

I'm starting to wonder if we should've elected someone with experience. (and by we I mean NOT ME)

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 25, 2009 12:17 PM (5GNS+)

4 You won't find anyone who is more proud to be an American than me, but God Damn! this is getting embarassing.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 25, 2009 12:20 PM (5GNS+)

The thing is, the Treasury Secretary President isn't some anonymous technocrat legislator, he's the global spokesman for the US government on financial mattes. Geithner Obama doesn't seem to understand he's not back at the NY Fed Senate or the IMF Illinois statehouse talking theoretically with his fellow economists and bankerslegislators. This is a bigger and broader job and one he's clearly not up to.

See the pattern?

Posted by: Andy at March 25, 2009 12:23 PM (QYJUz)

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They don't care.

They didn't take power to run the country.

They took power to rob the country.

Obama is a looter. Porkulus and the earmark-laden Omnibus Bill is a smash-and-grab. Everything else is primarily diversionary.

In this context, it all makes sense.

Posted by: MikeO at March 25, 2009 12:26 PM (4sSHg)

7 Obama should clarify: he meant to say that Special Olympians were doing an awesome job, and that Geithner is retarded.

Posted by: Dave Weigel at March 25, 2009 12:31 PM (X5yKy)

8 The Dow was up over 100 points this morning. It has started to nose dive. Did Barry shoot off his big mouth again?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2009 12:36 PM (1Jaio)

The crux of the Beck show yesterday with “the Mustache” was that it appeared that Obambi wanted to turn U.S. sovereignty over to the U.N.

Although the Mustache agreed that there WERE elements in the government who favored policies that would do just that he wouldn’t come right out and say it was Obambi.

I think it is time to start thinking impeachment for treason.

Posted by: Vic at March 25, 2009 12:41 PM (f6os6)

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Posted by: Blue Balls The Pirate at March 25, 2009 12:45 PM (uw+0A)

11 I'm kind of a contrarian here: done right, a global currency would actually be a good thing in lots of ways. It would almost certainly increase the global GDP by a significant margin by allowing the smaller/more marginal players a more even playing-field, and reduce the catastrophic crashes of certain economies (like Zimbabwe). For the USA, it would allow us to decouple our monetary policy from foreign policy in ways that aren't possible right now.

That is: if it's done right.

But it's a pipe-dream in reality because there is at present no real infrastructure to support such a GloboBuck. There is no objective arbitrating body to mediate disputes, and no enforcement arm with enough power to impartially impose penalties on malefactors. And since most economies are local first and global second (or third, or fifth), then every regional conflict would lead to a world currency crisis.

Posted by: Monty at March 25, 2009 12:45 PM (/0a60)

12 I think it is time to start thinking impeachment for treason.

I maintain that it would be easier for the US Supreme Court to declare him ineligible for office and replace him with Biden.

(I don't want to address the legitimacy of the "birther" arguments, but it's a damn sight easier for the USSC to declare him ineligible than to get Obama's own party to impeach and remove him.)

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 25, 2009 12:46 PM (Hy1bj)

13 Sorry if I am bursting your bubble, but, just casue the prez said it doesn't mean he gets it or understands it cause I've heard him say one thing one day at one place and time and then seen him change his tune another day at another place and time.

Posted by: muffy at March 25, 2009 12:51 PM (zplc6)

14 "8 The Dow was up over 100 points this morning. It has started to nose dive. Did Barry shoot off his big mouth again?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2009 12:36 PM (1Jaio)"

Timmaay was on power lunch with liesman.

Posted by: muffy at March 25, 2009 12:52 PM (zplc6)

15 I'm not worried. Geithner was just addressing the local Kiwanis Club on Main Street USA and not the Council on Foreign Relations.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at March 25, 2009 12:52 PM (AHrTm)

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Posted by: Blue Balls The Pirate at March 25, 2009 12:45 PM

Hey, make fun all you want. We're still on top.

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17 Posted by: muffy at March 25, 2009 12:51 PM (zplc6)
Oh, I have no doubt Obama doesn't get the economics of it but he does get the politics. All I could think of was this seen from Ghost Busters...

Gozer: [after Ray orders her to re-locate] Are you a God?
[Ray looks at Peter, who nods]
Dr Ray Stantz: No.
Gozer: Then... DIE!
[Lightning flies from her fingers, driving the Ghostbusters to the edge of the roof and almost off; people below scream]
Winston Zeddemore: Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

So Timmy, next time someone asks you if you are in favor of replacing the dollar you say "NO"!

Posted by: DrewM. at March 25, 2009 12:59 PM (hlYel)

18 The selloff today from up 150 to up 50 was caused by a poor auction relative to expectations for treasuries..... only 2x coverage by bids, expected 3x...bad sign for the future gazillion billion dollar auctions

Posted by: Timmy G at March 25, 2009 12:59 PM (5r0Tz)

19 "Wall Street Dealers are giving the Treasury the biggest "fuck you" on new Treasury debt. There's an auction today and a buy program tomorrow. Since Bernanke just announced that the Treasury is buying bonds, Wall Street- the dealers en masse- are basically refusing to show a good bid but then taking out a huge profit out of the Treasury. You want to talk 90% taxes? This is unprecedented." http://tinyurl.com/e88bk

They interrupted an interview for Santelli to speak so you knew Santelli was signaling something.

Posted by: muffy at March 25, 2009 12:59 PM (zplc6)

20 It is perfectly rational what is happening now int he markets - the market wont accept Obama's huge deficits, so they are signaling that.

Posted by: Timmy G at March 25, 2009 01:03 PM (5r0Tz)

21 And dealbreaker is also reporting that they have put Volker in moth balls, guess he lost the power struggle?

Posted by: muffy at March 25, 2009 01:04 PM (zplc6)

22 @11 Monty

RE: The GloboBuck

The unavoidable problem with any internationalist scheme is that the developed world is outnumbered by the shitholes on the globe. At least half the people on the planet would usher-in allah-flavored or marx-flavored totalitarianism if given the opportunity.

One man. One vote. One time.

Hell, in November, our idiot countrymen did the same thing for ourselves.

Posted by: MikeO at March 25, 2009 01:04 PM (4sSHg)

23 done right, a global currency would actually be a good thing in lots of ways. [...] and no enforcement arm with enough power to impartially impose penalties on malefactors.

Nor should there ever be. Any group with that much power would automatically become the single most corrupt body in history. There would be nothing but misery for everyone except a very select few.

Anything that's 'good in theory' only shouldn't be trifled with. This is a serious destabilizing idea, one more easily dismissed if the administration had simply kept their traps shut. Furthermore I doubt it would have enough trust of the average person to be anything but an exercise in world-wide hyperinflation. No trust = no currency.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at March 25, 2009 01:05 PM (kIjlp)

So Geithner would have to make the switch from not paying his taxes in dollars to not paying his taxes in this new currency?

I am sure he could pull it off.

Posted by: Michael at March 25, 2009 01:07 PM (siOQ7)

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Posted by: muffy at March 25, 2009 01:13 PM (zplc6)

26 I really shouldn't read this stuff when I'm already jazzed on caffeine and lack of sleep. It's like speedballing with a little crystal meth thrown in.

Posted by: Joanna at March 25, 2009 01:34 PM (ygqs7)

27 Dumber than what kind of rock - igneous, sedimentary, or metamorphic? Geithner seems replete with ignorance, which would suggest he might be igneous-like, yet he only paid his taxes after being worn down over time, which would associate him with being sedimentary. On the third hand, he's part of the Hopenchange Express, evoking images of being transformative and metamorphic!

So much rock! So much confusion!

Posted by: Jazz at March 25, 2009 01:35 PM (hnq5i)

28 if you read yahoo, cnbc or google, you'd think the market was up about 2% today and everything was great in Obama land, as Reid announced a half hour ago he'd pass Obama's budget.

No mention of the undersubscribed nature of our treasury bond auction v. expectations, and the market tanking since then - first tiem the bond and stock market moved in the same direction in a long time, very ominous.

Posted by: Timmy G at March 25, 2009 01:42 PM (5r0Tz)

29 We really needed this guy? He was the one guy who understood TARP? Really?

I am willing to serve in the job. I know virtually nothing of finance, but I have a PhD in math, so I can figure it out on the fly, which would be better than what Timmah has been doing.

I've paid my taxes (believe me!) and I took micro and macro in college (and I'm willing to bet $5000 that Obama took neither, but we won't get the transcripts, will we?).

I promise the following: No bailouts, no nothing. We'll let the economy ride, let failed companies fail and let the ones that survive, survive.

There is no reason at all to bailout a financial company. It's not like they have to cap wells or sell off heavy machinery at a loss. You don't even have to feel sorry for the fired employees because it seems that they make bank even after firing. Good for them.

Maybe Geithner's been in the financial sector too long. These guys get paid no matter how incompetent they are. But I can be just as incompetent as Geithner at half the price! Perhaps even less incompetent. Shouldn't be too difficult.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 25, 2009 01:50 PM (T0NGe)

30 I prefer "dumber than a bag of dicks".
Posted by: Blue Balls The Pirate at March 25, 2009 12:45 PM

What the fuck did we do?

Posted by: Bag of Dicks at March 25, 2009 01:50 PM (5aa4z)

31 Apology accepted.
I'll check with the Box.
Yep her too, you're good.

Posted by: Rocks at March 25, 2009 01:50 PM (Q1lie)

32 as Reid announced a half hour ago he'd pass Obama's budget.

Aha. That's what happened. Look at Drudge's homepage. Down about 100 for the day after a 200 point spike.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 25, 2009 01:51 PM (T0NGe)

33 Timmy G

It is just one day, one data point, but very weird indeed. I was wondering why the US markets were up early after reading about the UK's failed bond sale. but now it looks like the US's bond problems finally make the option dorks on the defensive.

Weird shit going on.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at March 25, 2009 02:04 PM (kIjlp)

34 Hey, with these two at the controls, we got nothing to worry about. Just make sure you stock up on guns and ammo.

Posted by: GarandFan at March 25, 2009 02:10 PM (237hA)

35 Hmmm.

Jesus H. Christ!

The fucking guy was President of the goddamn Federal Reserve! He had a front row seat for the kinds of loopy shit that happened on the markets every time Greenspan opened his big mouth.

And just now he's getting it that saying stupid shit will tank the markets?

We are soooooo fucked.

Posted by: memomachine at March 25, 2009 02:13 PM (oNWAo)

36 Hmmm.

@ Monty

"I'm kind of a contrarian here: done right, a global currency would actually be a good thing in lots of ways."

Sorry but I completely disagree. If America loses being the standard currency then we're that much more in the hole.

Posted by: memomachine at March 25, 2009 02:15 PM (oNWAo)

500 quatloos on the Newcomers fucking up entirely!

Posted by: Giant Pulsating Brain at March 25, 2009 02:21 PM (nAPly)

38 "We’re actually quite open to that suggestion"

Of course they are open to the suggestion. The American Dollar represents oppression, white european phallocracy, and imperialism. The US needs to be taken down a few dozen notches, it has to stop being arrogant and powerful. What better way than someone else, preferably a non-European, have the leading currency?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2009 02:57 PM (PQY7w)

What a bunch of craven, boot-licking commies. Liberals have been so ashamed of U. S. success, they're finally taking advantage of this opportunity to bring the country to its knees.

Posted by: iowavette at March 25, 2009 03:39 PM (0JTac)

40 Obama is a looter.

Posted by: MikeO at March 25, 2009 12:26 PM (4sSHg)

Racist.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at March 25, 2009 04:23 PM (vHKbW)

41 Hmmm I'm feeling the hate: Obama's economic saviour savaged as Keating lets rip

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42 "When asked last night at his news conference this same issue, Obama said, "I don't believe that there's a need for a global currency." See the difference? When even Obama gets it and you don't, there's a problem."

I understand why you think Barry's statement indicates that he "gets it".
But he doesn't. He is a pathological liar/ scumbag, and the inability to see that in everything he says and does is not good. Some, too many actually, seem to WANT to believe in Barry, for whatever reason, even while knowing everything we know about him.

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