More Failure to Lead from Obama
The President and the Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar, are catching flak for upholding an eleventh hour Bush Administration rule which took gray wolves off the endangered species list in the northern Rockies.There are some interesting things about the article. First, a Democrat Congresscritter (alas, unnamed) bemoaning the failure to politicize science:
"Making the decision to adopt the Bush administration's flawed delisting proposal the same week that the president pledged his commitment to the Endangered Species Act certainly calls into question whether the Interior Department was coordinating as closely as one would expect to have done with the White House," said Bob Irvin, senior vice president for conservation programs at the advocacy group Defenders of Wildlife. "This was a controversy that did not need to happen." One House Democrat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, framed it in even more blunt political terms. "I just don't see what this does for us," the lawmaker said. "Here we are alienating people who did the most -- who did a lot to help us in the last election."And so he or she confirms what we already know. There is no desire to get the politics out of science. That's just a phrase used to bludgeon whichever opponent can be made to look most "unscientific." On creationism in schools or stem cell policies, that would be the Right. On the Endangered Species Act, that is most definitely the Left. Increasingly, global warming is coming to be seen as an "unscientific" belief, something that warms me right down to my fossil-fuel burning core. The article also lists two of Obama's most recent failures to lead, suggesting that Salazar's delisting of the wolves is another such failure:
Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, a former House member from Illinois, veered off message last month when he suggested that the administration might tax motorists for every mile they drive. The White House made clear that the idea was not under consideration. And Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, a former senator from New York, clarified the administration's commitment to human rights this week after stating earlier that such concerns "can't interfere" with issues on which the United States needs Chinese cooperation.Of course, this is just a continuation of what went on during Obama's candidacy and during the transition. He fails to communicate a coherent policy or strategy to his subordinates, they go off and craft their own, then get smacked down when Obama (and his handler, Emanuel) finally gets around to noticing. Don't get me wrong. I'm just fine with Salazar's decision to delist the wolves. And I'm downright tickled that environmental groups are threatening to sue "their president" over it. But the disconnect between what Obama says and what actually happens is all too noticeable and that's a danger for us all.
1 Yeah, but what about Obama's hook shot? Sweet.
Posted by: Your Ever-Vigilant MSM at March 14, 2009 03:48 PM (f/H4f)
Any politician that speaks on the condition of anonymity, is by default a lying, cockless, fuckweasel.
Posted by: UncleFacts at March 14, 2009 03:57 PM (M+Vfm)
3 "But the disconnect between what Obama says and what actually happens is all too noticeable and that's a danger for us all."
That's only because you don't understand Democratic "nuance".
What Obama says, and what he means, depends on who He is saying it to and when. You also have the problem of conservative dissonance and cognition. You either did not hear what He said correctly, or misconstrued or misunderstood the message as promulgated from within the depths of the Party of Compassion and Inclusiveness. In layman's terms, you are not of the elite and can, on occasion, be forgiven for your unenlightened stupidity, as compared to His Magnificense.
Posted by: GarandFan at March 14, 2009 04:00 PM (237hA)
4 On the other hand, there's a good probability that The One is just 'makin' shit up' as he goes along, thus his underlings can't keep up. Let's face in, their in over their fucking heads. God help us!
Posted by: GarandFan at March 14, 2009 04:03 PM (237hA)
5 How can Obama lead? He hates America and he wantsAmerica to fail, but he doesn't want to be caught making that happen. That's the recipe for the paralysis we're seeing. He doesn't want to do things that are positive for the country, but he doesn't want to get caught doing things that are negative. How do you like your dysfunctional,black radical President now, America?
Posted by: Chas at March 14, 2009 04:06 PM (81ekr)
6 Nothing that Obama says or does has anything to do with leadership.
Everything Obama says and does is about power.
How to get power, how to keep power, and how to use it to remake the world.
Posted by: eman at March 14, 2009 04:07 PM (f0dGF)
7 Barry clearly didn't get the memo from the environmentalist whackos. Animals only go on the endangered species list; they don't come off.
Posted by: Andy at March 14, 2009 04:17 PM (B+HYX)
8 I would love to see the argument that the liberal court would give for standing to some eco-idiot group being harmed by delisting of the wolves from the endangered list.
Yes, clear and unambiguous harm was caused to this fuck-tard by that delisting.
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2009 04:17 PM (f6os6)
9 The importation and release of Canadian wolves in the northern Rockies was a political act from the beginning. And it was promised that once they became established and self-supporting, they would be delisted and have no special exemptions from predator management programs. So its not surprising that the Leftist dirtworshippers want to renege on all of that, because wolves are so cute and cuddly when they rip the insides out of an elk.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at March 14, 2009 04:18 PM (9p0nw)
10 These assholes are never satisfied. The irony is that the wolf huggers are victims of their own success. They cried about the endangered wolves and reintroduced them in various areas and it was so successful that there are enough of them now to take them off the endangered list. Ha ha ha ha.
Posted by: Pocono Joe at March 14, 2009 04:20 PM (unLeg)
11 I really wish Defenders and the government could figure out some humane alternative to mass wolf killings. I've argued the issue as it applies to Palin's Alaska. Hopefully, they can end the aerial shootings soon. That's nothing compared to what they did to wolves in Yellowstone in the 30s. It makes me almost as sick as the ignorant politicization of this issue being carried out by Defenders now with this Ashley Judd crap. They should stick to being an environmental group and leave the partisan witch hunts to the White House.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 14, 2009 04:22 PM (hOG5j)
12 "...But the disconnect between what Obama says and what actually happens is all too noticeable and that's a danger for us all."
The deuce you say!
In layman's (that would be "non-lawyers" to you knuckledraggers) terms, we cannot trust a two-faced liar. Got it.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 14, 2009 04:35 PM (swuwV)
13 *shhhhhhh!* Ixnay, ixnay! I'm trying to get on the endangered list myself! Don't fuck it up for me!
Have you seen one of me recently? Haven't, have you? That's because I'm one endangered motherfucker, that's why. With this bad economy, there's just not enough fecal matter to go around. Shit just costs too much these days, y'know...
I need a bailout!
Posted by: Common Sewer Rat at March 14, 2009 04:44 PM (COZb8)
14 And a lace wig!
Posted by: Common Sewer Rat at March 14, 2009 04:45 PM (COZb8)
15 Good lord they delisted the gray wolf because it was no longer endangered, how clueless do these environuts have to be?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2009 05:01 PM (PQY7w)
16 Conservatives are so aghast at the huge spending going on in Washington and the $1.75 trillion deficit (13 percent of our gross domestic product) it is causing them to overlook an even more basic question about the president: Is he competent? Does he know what he is doing?
To be specific: Does he know how to do anything other than spend money? His stimulus package, of course, took no special ability. He left the details of the projects up to the House Democrats, who are more than willing to fill in the blanks. But his two other major initiatives -- his banking and mortgage relief plans -- are both flawed and highly unlikely to solve their respective problems. Indeed, they are so wide of the mark that one has to ask if Obama is not only a radical but also an incompetent. - (Dick Morris, circa 3/13/09)
I think the answer to that question is patentlyobvious to anyone not mentally deranged. (2:29)
Posted by: 7HEAVENS at March 14, 2009 05:08 PM (IdE3L)
17 The Obama DOJ is also upholding the new Interior Dept rule that allows concealed carry on Federal lands (provided those lands are in a state that allows CCW, and that one has a valid permit).
I was totally fucking astonished to learn this. But there it is.
Posted by: Jones at March 14, 2009 05:19 PM (KOkrW)
What the fuck did Barry do!!!!!11!!!
Posted by: gray wolf at March 14, 2009 05:21 PM (krKUp)
19 I don't know about the conclusion, though. Obama always seems to want it both ways. A (mostly) compliant press was able to let him get away with it during the campaign. Increasingly, since they have no one else to blame, his inconsistency is evident.
Posted by: sears poncho at March 14, 2009 05:30 PM (uj/0b)
20 If a man threatens your family you will kill him. If a wolf threatens your livelyhood, kill him. Anyone who feels different should jump off a tall building with a short rope tied around their neck, they are worthless already.
7HEAVENS , I think you can safely assume O'Dumbo is mentally deranged, after all he's a democrat or a socialist, or a communist, definetly not an American.
Posted by: Scrapiron at March 14, 2009 05:37 PM (GkYyh)
21 The whole gist, coming from the left, is that Conservatives are, by definition, unscientific. Incapable of understanding science. Scientifically uneducated, by definition.
They truly believe this.
The other part of it, of course, is that Conservatives are also stupid. Unlike their innate intellectually superior selves.
Add Christianity to the mix, and boy, howdy, then you have unscientific, stupid, superstitious, rabid, and practically cromagnon!
I get really really sick of the constant, continual put-downs. The snide, crappy remarks from people who I know are nowhere near as smart as I am by any objective criterion, who are not just convinced they are superior (which I wouldn't mind so much), but who also take every opportunity to point that out in a supercilious manner.
That's when they aren't outright wishing us extinct. You'll notice they use that word a lot. It means - they wish us dead.
I've always been a pretty laid-back, accepting sort of person. But in the past couple of years, I've begun to absolutely hate these people.
Posted by: Alana at March 14, 2009 05:39 PM (JE2zV)
22 Of course they are "superior". They are the elite. The compassionate. The caring. The concerned. The enlightened.
As long as it's with someone else's money. Oh, and don't try and come to live in their gated neighborhood. They aren't that 'inclusive'.
Posted by: GarandFan at March 14, 2009 06:11 PM (237hA)
23 I've always been a pretty laid-back, accepting sort of person. But in the past couple of years, I've begun to absolutely hate these people.
I believe that pride comes before the fall, tho. They are overextending themselves in such ridiculous ways that this bullshit is going to come tumbling down much sooner than we think.
I think we have a huge, 30 foot Subway shit sandwich ahead of us but it will get better. A gut feeling.
The struggle is to not sucker punch your favorite mouthy little twat Liberal at work, etc.
Posted by: ErikW at March 14, 2009 06:19 PM (hKtiw)
24 Guvernerrin' is hard, HARD I tell you.
Posted by: Barry at March 14, 2009 07:09 PM (ewXBY)
25 ErikW, now I have the $5 Footlong song running thru my head.When Obama's through with us, the 30-foot shit sandwich will cost us $387.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 14, 2009 07:10 PM (n2eCn)
26 You guys are all missing the point. Obama (PBUH) is challenging us to lead ourselves. He could, with a simple wave of His hand, solve all of these problems. However, much like that lesser being, the so-called "God", Obama (PBUH) only helps those who help themselves. We are not yet worthy of His actual leadership. Only after we have unfucked everything will He deign to lead us, as we will have finally proved ourselves worthy.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 14, 2009 07:26 PM (8MuSQ)
27 Brazil's president Lula ran circles around Obama at joint press conference at his own game, and didn't even need a teleprompter
Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2009 07:50 PM (7FgWm)
28 Robin Hood stole my virginity and gave it to the poor.
Posted by: Your mom at March 14, 2009 08:01 PM (in8Vs)
29 The best thing I can say about all of this is that even Whoopi Goldberg on The View was starting to complain about higher taxes, and none of them seemed to like it. Can you imagine? Rich Hollywood Liberals getting tired of higher taxes, and we've only just begun? In 4 years they won't be so Liberal anymore.
Posted by: 7HEAVENS at March 14, 2009 08:10 PM (vAs89)
30 The election for the 20th Congressional district is March 31 in New York State.
I'm sure Assemblyman JimTedisco would not reject some loose change found in a sofa.
Posted by: Cassandra at March 14, 2009 08:13 PM (ScysQ)
31 Wolves, Mountain Lions, And even Coyotes, at some point become endangered when introduced to natural Deer habitat. The deer hunters dont freakin like the compitition. So, They Shoot. They Shadup. They Dig.
Posted by: Hugh Jass at March 14, 2009 08:25 PM (RiNYE)
32 At some point Obama's constant parties at the White house have got to be pointed out and mocked by the press or comedians, right? I mean even Billy Ray Valentine figured out that partying with a bunch of suckups was not cool.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2009 08:28 PM (PQY7w)
33 When Obama's through with us, the 30-foot shit sandwich will cost us $387.
With an appointed Shit Sandwich Czar to keep tabs on activity related to said Shit Sandwich whom only reports to the Office of the President.
Added cost: $15,000,000.00.
Posted by: ErikW at March 14, 2009 09:05 PM (hKtiw)
34 So basically, Sarah was right, on this as it was with many other things. Frankly I can't think of anything she was wrong about; butthere must be something; our betters like Brooks, Frum and the fair Ms. Bauer, ahem McCain, all say so. So is the minor deity at Hot Air, and increasingly Patterico.Salazar is still wrong on oil development, but he might be persuaded if the pipeline becomes a public works project like the "Big Dig" . Yes I know it's a disaster, but it's the only option available
Posted by: ian cormac at March 14, 2009 09:11 PM (GkYyh)
35 My favorite comment from the link:
yvette5884 wrote:Otter is an idiot, wants to use stimulus funds for "saving for a 'rainy day' fund", and fire teachers. Minnick is nothing more than a Republican in Democrat clothing. Get rid of the old Bush "scientists" who produced reports to his liking and Salazar.
I mean, this is perfect. Fire any scientists who give results and facts that don't match my preconceived knowledge based on their politics not facts or science...
Man, that is some tasty tasty schadenfreude... I don't think I can finish it all by myself. I'm going to save some of this for later.
Posted by: Gekkobear at March 14, 2009 10:27 PM (4lbIA)
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Posted by: ErikW at March 14, 2009 11:28 PM (hKtiw)
Been wanting to say that!
Posted by: ErikW at March 14, 2009 11:31 PM (hKtiw)
38 This thread is so racist that you have left me no choice but to raise your taxes.
Posted by: The Lord Messiah Barack Obama at March 15, 2009 05:27 AM (ztuZf)
39 Did Oblammy have any executive experience before being elected POTUS? Apparently not....
Posted by: nikkolai at March 15, 2009 09:18 AM (1zyVg)
40 The only executive experience President Obama had was the job he got from Ayers running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (which was a costly leftist experimenting failure) and the Joyce Foundation which was primarily concerned with taking guns away from citizens. Strangely enough he doesn't care to bring either of those up.
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