1 Of course, those calling for an end to earmarks do in fact want an end to earmarks; but if no one else is giving theirs up, it's difficult to punish one's constituents alone.

Difficult, but not impossible, and these men didn't have the integrity or honor to do so. Just like Ron Paul.

2 There are no earmarks anymore.  Obama put an end to that shit a long time ago...remember?

3
They pull this trick so often it's predictable.

4

much better put than i just did at the comments on WashingtonWire at WSJ.  Well done.  Am likely to crib (and attribute) them in future posts.  Keep up the good work. 

As if you need my encouragement:

 

Dobbs:  We would stop him!

Ace:  Who is this person who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?

5
Maybe it's just me but...

it's almost as if the Republicans don't want to win back the majority.

6 The heathen republicans will stop at nothing to make it appear that Our One and Only True Saviour has been anything less than divine.  (This time by secretly slipping their foul earmarks into bills that Our One and Only True Saviour trustingly signs.)

7 And thus ends the "Era of Responsible Spending in Washington", strangled in its crib by a hulking $410 billion dollar spending bill.

It was only 2 weeks old, too.

8 Thing is, this kind of stuff is pretty easily explained.  The bias is staggering, and drip drip drip people start to worry that everything they hear about Obama is tainted by this leftward bias.

Obama owns the economic disaster.  Obama owns every last cent of the tax hikes.  Obama is living down to the lowest warnings issued against him during the elections.  People are going to realize this.

9 Why pick on him

Because the Paulbots deserve the mockery.

10 Ron Paul, a week ago:
“We have to regulate the Federal Reserve so they don’t continue to do the same mistakes – print money – and regulate the Congress so they don’t spend money they don’t have and quit borrowing, and lower taxes, balance the budget enough and actually reduce your deficit and reduce your spending..."

11

Is there a full listing of all earmarks, maybe even sortable by state or requesting congresscritter?

I'd like to see what, if anything, my elected officials have asked for.  I've already decided that I won't be voting for them, but it'd be nice to have a few more pieces of argument-fodder when I start to encourage friends to also vote otherwise.

12 Ron Paul is insane.  He is right sometimes, and I love his clarity on certain points about fiscal sanity.  But he's insane anyway.

that's a fucking shame, because a third party would not be a bad idea if one wasn't insane.

13 MATT DAMON!

14 Lol

15 Well I guess the RNC wants another round of sit-outs come 2010.

As for Obama....just another promise under the bus.  I hear Gibbs is out looking for a bigger bus right now.

16 nice work Ace. 

17 I'm against Obama's plans and yet I'm going to pay for them this April. Aren't I a hypocrite, too? Hypocrisy sucks.

18 As long as your pointing out the broken promises don't forget the 5 days of public review and comment before signing.

19 O/T:  Hey guys, you want to buy a house?  It's a relocation, but the owner has no idea that the housing market is declining,   He bought at the top of the market and he is asking to make a serious profit.  Well, as I said, it's a relocation, guys moving to DC, so eventually, he will get realistic, they all do:  "Secretary Tim Geithner,has put his Westchester home up for sale: The five-bedroom Tudor in Larchmont is now on the market for $1.635 million.   But as smart as he may be when it comes to economic matters, one thing is for certain. If, as ,some are suggesting, Geithner's career comes to a premature end, the former president of the New York Federal  Reserve will not be turning to a career in interior design. A video tour of Geithner's painfully furnished home—accompanied by the cheesiest soundtrack you've heard in ages—is below:"  http://tinyurl.com/albxy7
h/t dealbreaker

20 I don't have a huge problem with earmarks, but manage it.  Cap it at reasonable $ figure per Senator and Congresscritter, based on seniority or whatever, and institute some transparency.  Bringing home the bacon is a reasonable political act, in many cases the constituents know what they need and can't get it through the regular bureaucracy.

It would be much better if Senators were still appointed by the States and the list came from the legislatures instead of campaign donors.

21 Hey, I uhhh grandfathered these ummm last ever earmarks in. Or something.

22

15:

You're playing into the MSM's hands by sitting out.

 

And, funny, this started at Media Matters a few days ago. Nice to see The Deciders are able to ignore the pressure and cocktail party shunning that would occur if they don't heed David Brock

23 Intellectual consistency is not in the Constitution!

You can Google it.

24 Politico showing slight balls:

The old bulls won.

Pulled between his campaign rhetoric and his own party’s congressional barons, President Barack Obama largely sided with his Hill allies in unveiling an earmark proposal Wednesday that shies away from any strict crackdown on the practice.

Obama proposed further transparency for the spending goodies prized by many members of Congress – but stopped far short of the kind of serious limits reformers wanted.

“Rather than trying to fine tune a fundamentally flawed process, we should take aggressive steps to prevent unauthorized earmarks,” said Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.), a leading anti-earmark critic on the Hill.

Feingold’s GOP partner – and Obama’s former presidential rival – went further.

“The President’s rhetoric is impressive, but his statement affirms we will continue to do business as usual in Washington. . .” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who has led the fight against earmarks. “The President could have resolved this issue in one statement – no more unauthorized pork barrel projects – and pledged to use his veto pen to stop them. This is an opportunity missed.”

25 I dunno, I checked out the video of Geithner's house, and I didn't think the furnishing was that bad. Not worth 1.63 million, but not that bad. I was expecting tacky country with those cut out hearts and chintz everywhere, or brass, chrome, and shag rugs. (That would have matched the cheesy music better.)

26 "25 I dunno, I checked out the video of Geithner's house, and I didn't think the furnishing was that bad. Not worth 1.63 million, but not that bad. I was expecting tacky country with those cut out hearts and chintz everywhere, or brass, chrome, and shag rugs. (That would have matched the cheesy music better.)

Posted by: Andrea Harris at March 11, 2009 03:41 PM (vLf8O)"

I didn't think it was that bad either but cityfile has a tendency toward "cattiness".  With all the comments though, got curious:  "Mrs. Geithner, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Albert Sonnenfeld of Princeton, N.J., is a research associate for Common Cause, a public-affairs lobbying group in Washington. Her father is a professor of French and comparative literature at Princeton University. Her mother, Portia Sonnenfeld, is conductor of the Chamber Symphony of Princeton....His father is the program officer in charge of developing countries for the Ford Foundation. His mother, Deborah Geithner, is a piano teacher." http://tinyurl.com/daxab6

27 This is Ron Paul explaining why earmarks are actually good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq_5H1XKVww He says that even if you stripped every earmark, the amount of money in the bill would be the same (because it is pre-set), but the extra money would be for the President to allocate rather than the Congress.

28 Maybe it's just me but...

it's almost as if the Republicans don't want to win back the majority.

There's a subtle point that many commenters here are missing.  Republicans in Congress, like Democrats and Independents, already have what they want - a seat in Congress.  In their list of priorities, that seat is #1 by a long shot, and the health of the party at large is somewhere near the bottom.  No Congressman is going to give up earmarks unless the electoral threat is serious enough to outweigh the benefit of the campaign cash he receives in return.

Now, I'm sure the Republicans in Congress would love to have a majority again.  But for many of them the whole point of being in the majority is the extra campaign cash that flows when you're a committee chairman.

29 Trying again with hopefully correct formatting...
This is Ron Paul explaining why earmarks are actually good:
http://tinyurl.com/cy934l

He says that even if you stripped every earmark, the amount of money in the bill would be the same (because it is pre-set), but the extra money would be for the President to allocate rather than the Congress.

30 Did they pick up on the fact that 25% of the billions in pork going to Ma ends up in a Kennedy's personal bank account one way or the other.

31 "Mrs. Geithner, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Albert Sonnenfeld of Princeton, N.J., is a research associate for Common Cause, a public-affairs lobbying group in Washington. Her father is a professor of French and comparative literature at Princeton University. Her mother, Portia Sonnenfeld, is conductor of the Chamber Symphony of Princeton....His father is the program officer in charge of developing countries for the Ford Foundation. His mother, Deborah Geithner, is a piano teacher."

Gosh, do ya reckon they still poop like regular folks?

32 right, I thought the same thing.  Interesting that with business on the outs, the real power players will be in education and government.

33 Congress put in place a system whereby the federal government steals our money, and individual Congressmen try to steal some of it back for their constituents. They also created a slew of agencies, and then hamstrung them with so many rules that they can't get anything done unless ways are found to circumvent the rules. This is how earmarks originate. When you actually look at the projects the earmarks are for, and strip away the MSM fun and games, most of them seem to make sense and are actually worthy projects. The problem is their origin in a compound clusterfuck of a system. Burn down that system and leave the money with individuals and the states, and much of this issue would go away.

34 "Gosh, do ya reckon they still poop like regular folks?"

I mean come on, everyone knows accomplishments are for traitors! Who do they think they are doing shit! Damn pinkos. This "I'm with stupid" shit is definitely the card you deer ticks should play over and over.

35 Posted by: silly at March 11, 2009 03:28 PM (zplc6)

I see a bailout for Ikea coming.

36 I mean come on, everyone knows accomplishments are for traitors!

They certainly aren't for Democratic Presidential candidates.

37

"Bonus: Top GOP porker? Ron Paul"

the Paulbots will be inconsolable for about 5 mins... then it's time for a HotPocket!

 

38

the toe headed stooge, i mean ronpaul  said this while campaigning:

Deficits mean future tax increases, pure and simple. Deficit spending should be viewed as a tax on future generations, and politicians who create deficits should be exposed as tax hikers.

does he want some wine with that cheese (ronpaul), he is still pissed b/c the rs snubbed him in 2008, i wonder why?  his earmarks are on purpose to deflate the arguments that we use as conservative rs against earmarks? im not for them, if you want them then voluntarily pay more in taxes than everyone else does in your tax bracket, otherwise stay the fuck out of my bank account!

i can just imagine a ronpaul steering committee meeting for his up coming election strategy;

ronpaul: "When the federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans". ( said this sober i guess)

steering committee response: cheers and  plugs into the wall a bong made from an old breast pump

ronpaul: "Justifying conscription to promote the cause of liberty is one of the most bizarre notions ever conceived by man! Forced servitude, with the risk of death and serious injury as a price to live free, makes no sense". (also said this, probably because gays are subjected to regular beatdowns in the military)

steering committee response :  cheer again, one member then busts out the dope brownies and passes them out, another stupidly says: "hey man, what about those ear mark things you put in the omnibus bill"?

ronpaul: "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads”. (actualy said this sober - i  think)

Steering committee response: aaaawwwwesome dude, great fucking sound bite dude,I can use it when called out by the press about earmaks when you start saying spending is out of control!

ronpaul: (under his breath) you stupid fucking idiots, your so guilible.

conservatives need to tell our other fearless leader m. steele that we will not even think about going to the polls or sending money to the rnc until he starts stripping the letter r from legislators like paul, spector, collings, and other fuck that votes for this shit

 

 

39 Change-mad rush for the Bamabucks.The Gong show continues-ring the bell.

40

I mean come on, everyone knows accomplishments are for traitors!

I'd like to thank Frito Johnson for that 100% authentic, lefty intertubes gibberish.

41 Just like that hypocrite Thomas Jefferson calling for an end to slavery.

42 To all you idiot critics, how can you blame a politician for earmarks against which s/he voted?

43

g_ _ll_t_n_ .

would you like to buy a vowel?

 

44

To all you idiot critics, how can you blame a politician for earmarks against which s/he voted s/he inserted?

Fixt.

45 But remember this is the same media we've got to tip-toe around so don't say anything they can take out of context (like you want Obama to fail).

46 Unilateral Disarmament is stupid in war, politics and spending.

47 He(Ron Paul) says that even if you stripped every earmark, the amount of money in the bill would be the same (because it is pre-set), but the extra money would be for the President to allocate rather than the Congress.

How about having Congress give back said funds to the people it's owed to, namely, the people who had those funds  removed from their paychecks under duress.  I am really getting sick of being screwed over by the people who supposedly represent me.

48 I fail to see the hypocrisy on Ron Paul's part.  Paul is very clear that he is against federal income tax, so asking for his constituents money back in the form of earmarks attached to legislation that he would never vote for in a million years does not strike me as hypocrisy.  If you are truly pissed off about what he is doing then you should call your congress man or woman and demand that they stop shoveling money into Ron Paul's district by refraining from voting for shitty legislation.

49 so asking for his constituents money back in the form of earmarks attached to legislation that he would never vote for in a million years does not strike me as hypocrisy

What if I don't want a fucking bridge? What if I just want my money back? Why can't he push for lowering taxes?

I'll tell you why - because then he wouldn't have a big shiny bridge to point to. A bridge with a sign next to it proclaiming that Ron Paul brought to the district.

He's a whore just like all the other whores in that den of whores. Fuck Ron Paul and his nutbag fanatic supporters.*


*It's nothing personal - I'm a hater and I'm required to post at least 15% ad hominem content to keep my ranking.

50 I fail to see the hypocrisy on Ron Paul's part.

Really? You really fail to see it? The very man who rails most against earmarks is the guy who asks for the most? That hypocrisy eludes you?

51 Yesterday David Shuster said that based on Tuesday's stock rise, Obama had a mandate for his policies.  Not shitting you.....it drops 2,000 points and it's ignored, it gains 300 and it means the market trusts Obama.

Paying attention to the nimrods on MSNBC is akin to following feministing and finding it newsworthy (ahem!!!!!).

52

Really? You really fail to see it? The very man who rails most against earmarks is the guy who asks for the most? That hypocrisy eludes you?

I must have missed something in that FOX News interview.  I could have sworn they said John McCain is the one that rails most against earmarks, and Ron Paul is unabashedly FOR earmarks, because it is the only way in our current system to maintain accountability for the money spent.

53 Hutch, yep, you definitely missed something if you think Ron Paul campaigns for more earmarks.

Christ

54 50 and 53, Ron Paul does not rail against earmarks, and, indeed, says we need more of them (as previously posted in this thread):<br><br>
<a href='http://tinyurl.com/cy934l'>http://tinyurl.com/cy934l</a>

55 Bah.

http://tinyurl.com/cy934l

56 Ron Paul is unabashedly FOR earmarks, because it is the only way in our current system to maintain accountability for the money spent.

That is the most intellectually dishonest thing ever written on this blog.

57 Yes he does now... he used to consider them a mark of evil and in the presidential campaign he criticized them. Now, since he's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he's trying to explain why that's okay all the sudden.

And since his explanation has all the brilliance of a mongoloid child, he's still facing the same problems of gross hypocrisy. The separation of powers concept and the US constitution pretty well establishes that legislative department approrpriates money for projects, and the executive department administrates the money that congress appropriates.

Ron Paul is trying to avoid that. He's a scumbag politician that people think is Jesus. Hey, that sounds familiar!

58 And Paul's remarks on Cavuto are unabashed Capitol Hill BULLSHIT.  Paulbots, you need to trade up.

59 I know noone cares (least of which, the parent, NBC), but I just officially de-listed MSNBC from my TV channels about 20 minutes ago. Between Maddow, Matthews, and Olbermann, I just couldn't stand flipping by the channel anymore. Just momentarily seeing their smug little mugs framed by anti-Republican chyrons and juvenile, mocking graphics... It's like Air America in video form. And with a less tasteful presentation.

60 I'm still laughing at the idea of King Constitution claiming that the executive department doing its job is so reprehensible that we need more earmarks.

61

 Yes he does now... he used to consider them a mark of evil and in the presidential campaign he criticized them. Now, since he's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he's trying to explain why that's okay all the sudden.

Clearly that is the case.  During the presidential race he and Tim Russert staged the whole "aren't you a hypocrite because you put earmarks into bills" debate on "Meet The Press" just to boost television ratings.

62 Ace, sorry I interrupted this thread with the information about Geitner selling his house.   The thing that struck me about this is the fact that he bought this house, according to the article in the post, linked at dealbreaker, at the height of the market.  Now, at the time, he was probably coming here to be head of the NY Fed, (didn't check but seems about right) and he thought nothing of purchasing that house.  Ace, he didn't see the buble bursting.  No one saw the bubble bursting.  Why is that?  How come a hand ful of hedge fund managers made a mint cause they saw the bubble coming and yet the bankers didn't see it?    Today they were saying those same guys have made a fortune again shorting.   Geez, I'm at the point of wishing the government would short the crap out of the companies they now practically own to get their/our money back.

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65 Goddamned spammers are breaking the blog!  Even the lace wig people are pissed!

66 I love how people still defend that Ron Paul nazi big government liar.

He's not worth spit.  He's no honest.  He had a chance to own up to his actions, and lied about them, and backtracked inch by inch as proof came out.  This doesn't only apply to his newsletter, but to earmarks, donations, and a myriad of other issues.

Ron Paul is no leader, and he's not even a real man.

67 During the presidential race he and Tim Russert staged the whole

Correct, he was on the show talking about earmarks because he was revealed to be a hypocrite about small government, as I noted.

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69 A little secret here.  Earmarks are one percent of the budget. If all earmaks were removed it wouldn't eliminate one dime of spending.  Why??  Because the money has already been appropriated .   Either individual congress critters are going to earmark it or the executive branch will spend it as they see fit.   

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