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I'm relinking the best day of the entire campaign season.

Now -- who got it right? David Brooks Brothers or "Caribou Barbie"?


Perhaps the grassroots wouldn't distrust and actively hate ostensible intellectuals if the supposed intellectuals could get over their hubris in believing "This time, we've got the right team of sharpies to finally make socialism work."

Hey, Swells, want to know why we like Palin and distrust you? Pretty simple -- she gets it right and you get it wrong. The fact that you are eminently well-credentialed in your great errors is no mitigation at all. It adds to the crime, in fact.

Posted by: Ace at 02:22 PM



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1 Haha.  AP is going to stop linking to AOS.  (kidding, I think)

Posted by: Amused Observer at March 03, 2009 02:25 PM (u4q3y)

2

It's like you said in your update below, Palin and Joe The Plumber never went to Ivy League schools, don't know how scoring in polo works, and probably never tasted wine from a bottle costing more than $20.  Both of them saw right through Obama's veneer and correctly assessed him for what he was.  Brooks, Parker, Buckley et al took their criticism a little too personally and this is where we are now.

Who's right?  If Brooks and Buckley are realizing they were stupid and dupe-able then we don't to listen to them anymore.

Posted by: EC at March 03, 2009 02:27 PM (mAhn3)

3 Look, this needs to be read and re-read.  One reason Palin got it right was that she wasn't willing to call a pig's ear a silk purse.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 03, 2009 02:27 PM (AZGON)

4 God I love that woman.

Posted by: trailortrash at March 03, 2009 02:30 PM (pseS/)

5 Can you carry lipstick in that silk purse, George?

Posted by: reason at March 03, 2009 02:32 PM (kZVsz)

6 Born Again Keynesians just don't know how to comport their religion to the modern, globalized, trading world.  They're running out of shovels.

These are the Roman roads that crumble so long as they are policed, repaired, and planned by Keynesian Contractors.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at March 03, 2009 02:32 PM (AHrTm)

7 "Hey, Swells, want to know why we like Palin and distrust you? Pretty simple -- she gets it right and you get it wrong."

That about sums it up.

Posted by: notropis at March 03, 2009 02:32 PM (UDXwm)

8

How quickly are we enacting the planks of the American Communist Party? Pretty damn fast, it looks like...

 http://tinyurl.com/bglbrc


 

 

Posted by: Juliet16 at March 03, 2009 02:33 PM (2xgu5)

9

Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer, dead!

Brooks ... Parker ... Buckley ... Noonan - come on, who's with me?

Posted by: Bluto Blutarsky (R-Faber) at March 03, 2009 02:33 PM (WsTw8)

10 Goodness, I got a little chocked up. We could have had her next to the president and instead we have Obama and Biden. It's lost its humor.


This drives home, again, that the Palin haters are dead to me. I never go to HotAir or several other pathetic sites. Good riddance, fools.

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 02:36 PM (X1fsj)

11 "There's a time for politics, ad a time for leadership. A time to campaign, and a time to put our Country First."

FUCK YEAH.

The only mistake Caribou Barbie made was overestimating John McCain's "guts and determination."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 02:37 PM (hPdh9)

12 chocked = choked

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 02:37 PM (X1fsj)

13 "The only mistake Caribou Barbie made was overestimating John McCain's "guts and determination."

And the pathetic nature of the handlers and advisors McCain hired.

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 02:39 PM (X1fsj)

14 I'll carry Palin's lipstick anywhere she wants.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 03, 2009 02:40 PM (AZGON)

15 Ivy League = highly mis-educated...

It not that they don't know a lot, but so much of what they know is wrong...

Posted by: phreshone at March 03, 2009 02:40 PM (oH2N4)

16 And the pathetic nature of the handlers and advisors McCain hired.

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 02:39 PM (X1fsj)


His staff was like the State Department in the 1940's and 50's... infiltrated by the enemy...

Posted by: phreshone at March 03, 2009 02:42 PM (oH2N4)

17 Ah, America.  What you could have had . . .

Posted by: kev at March 03, 2009 02:42 PM (RYqhx)

18

Palin and Joe The Plumber... don't know how scoring in polo works,

The RINOs are chukka fuckas.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 03, 2009 02:43 PM (TpHGM)

19 I was about to type that same thing #11, until I saw yours.  The seppuku candidate had resolve until he was nominated and realized he might actually win.

Posted by: A.G. at March 03, 2009 02:44 PM (JoIvi)

20 It's a losers game but imagining "what could have been" is an eye opener. Especially now that we know Obama will not be moderate in any way.

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 02:49 PM (X1fsj)

21 People like Jeff B. are the ones who hate Palin, and deserve to be shunned.

Posted by: Pipe Barackage at March 03, 2009 02:51 PM (Z9IOH)

22

"Niedermeyer, dead!"

"Oh, it's the mail plane..."

"How can you tell it's a mail plane?"

"There.  Between the wheels, you can see it's balls."

Posted by: Dusty Bottoms at March 03, 2009 02:52 PM (F26eZ)

23 Not only right; but, I bet she could take Obama in a one-on-one in b-ball, too.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at March 03, 2009 02:52 PM (4s1it)

24

"This time, we've got the right team of sharpies to finally make socialism work."

Bingo. Jonah Goldberg showed as much in Liberal Fascism.

It's the core distinction between liberal (i.e., socialist/progressive) and conservative. The former keeps trying to perfect the political machine. The latter realizes it will never lead to heaven on earth, but to hell.

The worst form of government is the one we started America with. Except for all the others.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at March 03, 2009 02:52 PM (2QFX4)

25

"It's a losers game but imagining "what could have been" is an eye opener. Especially now that we know Obama will not be moderate adequate in any way."

FT.

Posted by: reason at March 03, 2009 02:53 PM (F26eZ)

26 Saw this on CNN... Looks like the administration is already working on trying to get dirt on Palin for 2012 by hiring the guy who headed the investigation in Troopergate....

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Posted by: Jo at March 03, 2009 02:53 PM (LB4Hc)

27 It's really too bad she stunk up her interviews after that speech and didn't do better than she did in her debate.

Also, it sucks that McCain didn't handle her properly. But more importantly, it sucks that McCain was an awful candidate.

Posted by: lorien1973 at March 03, 2009 02:53 PM (IhQuA)

28

One famous Alabamism goes like this:

"You been to college?"

"Not enough to hurt."

One can have one's head filled with information. Without common sense, one won't know what to do with it, or be able to discern between what is true and what isn't.

Give me common sense over a Hahvahd degree anyday.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 03, 2009 02:55 PM (ZGhSv)

29

Perhaps the grassroots wouldn't distrust and actively hate ostensible intellectuals if the supposed intellectuals could get over their hubris in believing "This time, we've got the right team of sharpies to finally make socialism work."

Right on.  The Germans couldn't make communism work!  How anyone can have faith in super efficient planners after the Berlin Wall fell is beyond me.

Posted by: Matt at March 03, 2009 02:56 PM (ecpMe)

30 16 His staff was like the State Department in the 1940's and 50's ... infiltrated by the enemy

-------------------------------
I watched the VP debates with the French boyfriend of Palin's stylist, a card-carrying Democrat. Ever wonder how wardrobe receipts and green room gossip made headlines?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 02:57 PM (hPdh9)

31 "didn't do better than she did in her debate."

What? She crushed Biden and even the libs were saying it.

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 02:57 PM (X1fsj)

32 mare at March 03, 2009 02:57 PM (X1fsj)

Oh come on. She did okay - better than I thought she would - but she didn't have anything specific to counter him with. Biden's been a dumbass in DC for, what, 30 years now and she couldn't hit him on any of those things?

I loved her before she was picked. She was the one I was hoping McCain picked. After the VP speech I was ecstatic. It was downhill from there, unfortunately.

Now I think she's part of the GOP's problem. She's a big spender (wanted to increase fed funding for special needs from $8 billion to $40 billion) as well.

Posted by: lorien1973 at March 03, 2009 03:00 PM (IhQuA)

33 27 The general consensus was that Palin did fine in the debate. Even the French mob I watched it with had few criticisms.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 03:00 PM (hPdh9)

34 How retarded is this latest Obama fascist marketing ploy?

Put a stamp on it -- that’s what the White House says.

President Obama announced today that his administration will begin stamping an emblem on projects funded by the economic stimulus package so that people can easily recognize the effects of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

All projects will be stamped with the ARRA logo (short for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) and lists the recovery.gov website on the emblem.

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:01 PM (5r0Tz)

35 McCain's mistake with Sarah Barracuda was keeping her on such a short leash. He tried to teach her to recite his lines, and it became glaringly obvious she knew she'd been had. She was much better when unscripted and speaking from her heart.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 03, 2009 03:01 PM (ZGhSv)

36

@34

What's this? A new Stamp Act?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 03, 2009 03:03 PM (ZGhSv)

37 At the time, I thought Obama reacted so badly to her speech because she made fun of him. And that was probably part of it, but more importantly: She divulged his agenda.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at March 03, 2009 03:05 PM (cvmgB)

38 All projects will be stamped with the ARRA logo (short for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) and lists the recovery.gov website on the emblem.

Typically ARRAgant.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at March 03, 2009 03:06 PM (cvmgB)

39 The big differences between Palin and the rest needs to be stated clearly... she is commmitted and honest, but mostly she is genuine.  A real self-made woman, with the clear potential to be a great leader.

Posted by: sherlock at March 03, 2009 03:07 PM (ZrS0c)

40 " All projects will be stamped with the ARRA logo (short for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) and lists the recovery.gov website on the emblem."

That's just creepy.

Posted by: mare at March 03, 2009 03:09 PM (X1fsj)

41

What's the phone number for that government website, G?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 03, 2009 03:09 PM (TpHGM)

42 Basically yea, a new stamp act. it's on tapper's blog, and the logo is there too.  i tried to paste it in here but was rejected.

incredible hubris of obama..........branding pork as his.

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:09 PM (5r0Tz)

43 32 According to The Orange Sewer, Sarah Palin cut the special needs budget by 62% in 2008. Of course, you have to weigh the data and make the connection between oil prices and the Alaska budget, but it's easy to examine those same budgets and shoot down your "big spender" allegation.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/3/163229/8631

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 03:10 PM (hPdh9)

44 gibbs is being grilled on the president's buy stock recommendation and the crash ofthe markets since inauguration....fun to watch, but sad that obama is signaling he wont change course no matter how low the markets go

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:11 PM (5r0Tz)

45 40 He wants to be FDR today and make his ARRA a new WPA.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 03:11 PM (hPdh9)

46 That word "Reinvestment": watch out for that "re-" part.  That means redistribution of wealth, kiddies, and we all know how great that always works!

Posted by: sherlock at March 03, 2009 03:11 PM (ZrS0c)

47 The giggle fest between the "reporters" and gibbs is almost unwatchable...they're talking about the potential destruction of trillions more in market wealth like its a fucking joke

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:12 PM (5r0Tz)

48 44 George Soros (the man behind the curtain) said there is no bottom, meaning President Obama will continue talking the market into the toilet.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 03:13 PM (hPdh9)

49 O/T:   Who is this vapid congresswoman with the mouse grey hair and the new eye job who is having an orgasm in public over the presidents budget.  Before the orgasmic cheerleader statements she was quick to accomplish her mission of blaming it all on the republicans and pres bush.

Posted by: silly at March 03, 2009 03:15 PM (zplc6)

50 You know, nobody has problems with Victor Davis Hansen. I think he's a bit more elite than Brooks. Creditials wise anyway. I think its a revealing indictment of our educational system that those who should know better don't.

Posted by: Iblis at March 03, 2009 03:16 PM (9221z)

51 Brooks, Parker, et al, don't have to love Sarah Palin as I do, they just need to be a little less asshole-y about her.   She represents many people who think as I do, and when you diss her, you diss us. 

OMG, she drops her "gs" when she speaks, oh, the horror!  She says things like  "kinda" and "sorta", oh, the torture!  I'll bet she doesn't even lift her pinkie finger when she drinks her hot tea! 

Posted by: THeREsaD at March 03, 2009 03:16 PM (MO2LE)

52 "47 The giggle fest between the "reporters" and gibbs is almost unwatchable...they're talking about the potential destruction of trillions more in market wealth like its a fucking joke

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:12 PM (5r0Tz)"

Gibbs provides a valuable role model for any and all middle school girls.

Posted by: silly at March 03, 2009 03:17 PM (zplc6)

53

Brooks sucks but he is not the only Republican pundit that feels that he has to balance his rhetoric to appear fair.  Jonah Goldberg has the annoying habit of doing that in everyone of his articles or postings. No wonder he wanted to fire Coulter. His latest.

.....As for the substance of Ross et al.'s opposition to Limbaugh, I have no problem with them objecting to Limbaugh's ideas. I think sometimes Limbaugh's critics have the better argument and sometimes Limbaugh does. But it sometimes seems like the objections to Limbaugh often boil down to frustration with the guy's influence and success more than anything else. Fine. If you think he's wrong, that's worth complaining about.......

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2009 03:18 PM (m2CN7)

54 its true silly --- every answer begins with a stupid giggle from gibbs, and almost every question is interrupted by a stupid gibbs joke.  a few of the reporters are not laughing and trying to act like professionals, but 90% of them are going along with the circus.

it is sad to say, but america is looking more and more like rome in its last decades

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:20 PM (5r0Tz)

55 Was in the car and Rush Linbaugh was talking about James and Sarah Brooks who will lose their ability to attend the Sidwell friends School cause of some amendment that is going to take their voucher away.  Rush Linbaugh said the kids themselves sent a message to the pres asking that they still be able to get the help to attend friends.   RL said this is somthing the teacher's union wants so it will pass.  He did ask a good question.  You would think the people who benefit from this program would be up in arms that it is going by the wayside and they aren't.  RL assumed they didn't know.   Here's where "trust but verifty" should come into play.

Posted by: silly at March 03, 2009 03:21 PM (zplc6)

56 It must be a bad camera angle cuz I can't see any white hoods or burning crosses. /snark

Posted by: payaso at March 03, 2009 03:21 PM (wJ2/3)

57 Parker, James and Sarah Parker, not Brooks

Posted by: silly at March 03, 2009 03:22 PM (zplc6)

58

Iblis at March 03, 2009 03:16 PM (9221z

Hanson went to University of Cal and Stanford.  I think east coast elitists pundits are the problems. .

Posted by: polynikes at March 03, 2009 03:23 PM (m2CN7)

59 Its been 6 months to the day she made that speech. I still remember it and love it. Palin 2012 can't come soon enough.

Posted by: JennyC at March 03, 2009 03:25 PM (sVxR1)

60 "54 its true silly --- every answer begins with a stupid giggle from gibbs, and almost every question is interrupted by a stupid gibbs joke.  a few of the reporters are not laughing and trying to act like professionals, but 90% of them are going along with the circus.

it is sad to say, but america is looking more and more like rome in its last decades

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:20 PM (5r0Tz)"

It looks almost as though he is trying to take every serious question and make it into a joke so he doesn't have to address it.  It is paiful to watch.  (hint to BO, women handle the job of pres secy much better than men IMHO)

Posted by: silly at March 03, 2009 03:25 PM (zplc6)

61 lorien -- A quibble about the VP debate: go rewatch the debate. Palin sparred with Biden easily and caught him in a big fib about Afghanistan and whether a surge-like strategy could be implemented there. Of course, Biden completely made up things like his mythical US-France invasion of Lebanon to displace Hezbollah.


Posted by: Robert_Paulson at March 03, 2009 03:26 PM (zjgCD)

62 Gibbs just now:

"I'm a little surprised with the speed in which the head of the RNC [steele] apologized to the head of the Republican party [rush]"  And then he ran off the stage.

It is sad that the Presidency is reduced to such idiotic fighting with a talk show host as its main political strategy.

Posted by: G at March 03, 2009 03:31 PM (5r0Tz)

63 I love that speech and Sarah. I have it on my iPod and I listen when I am at the gym. It is the best motivator. Should I run one more mile? Hell yes!

I can't think of one thing she said in that speech that isn't true today.

Brooks et al could do themselves a huge favor and write columns based on how Sarah got it right. They might win back some credibility with us po' folk.

Posted by: Trish at March 03, 2009 03:34 PM (0U5Kd)

64 I wonder what the jobs market in Alaska is like for a moderately intelligent 54 year old who is in good shape for his age, enjoys the outdoors, has a varied lab background and most importantly LOVES HIS COUNTRY!!

Posted by: teej at March 03, 2009 03:36 PM (QdUKm)

65 Hanson's real problem is he's spent too much time around Palin type people and "gasp" , he actually likes and respects a lot of them.
 Damn yeoman farmers , they just won't act like they're supposed to.
Y'all remember that "sumbitch ain't been born yet " story?

Posted by: aubrey at March 03, 2009 03:36 PM (U1Lxs)

66

George Soros (the man behind the curtain) said there is no bottom, meaning President Obama will continue talking the market into the toilet.

The cynical side of me says that Soros took big short positions in the dollar before Zero was installed, and that was supposed to be his payoff for all the bucks pumped into Juggy's campaign. So far the dollar's stayed fairly up compared to some of the other currencies, so no payoff for Soros. Kinda makes all those horrible things Teleprompter Messiah is doing to our economy not so mysterious. That's the cynical side.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 03, 2009 03:46 PM (ERJIu)

67 Save us, Caribou Barbie!

SAVE US

:sobs:

Posted by: tsj017 at March 03, 2009 03:49 PM (TBwnU)

68 Watching that 3+ minute ovation at the beginning reminded me of why team Obama was so unnerved, and so determined to destroy her by any means possible. I hope she comes back stronger in 2012.

Posted by: Nice Deb at March 03, 2009 03:53 PM (MHx40)

69 27 It's really too bad she stunk up her interviews after that speech and didn't do better than she did in her debate.

Also, it sucks that McCain didn't handle her properly. But more importantly, it sucks that McCain was an awful candidate.

Posted by: lorien1973 at March 03, 2009 02:53 PM (IhQuA)

She didn't "stink up" anything.  The Couric interview was filmed and edited to make her look bad.  Her answer about what she read should be taken in the context of the question, in which Cunty Couric asked "what do you read up there in Alaska", as if to suggest Alaskans were illiterate. It wasn't a serious question. It was presumptuous, elitist gotcha crap.  Had she rattled off a list of magazines I'm sure Cunty Couric would have had more gotcha crap to throw at her, like trivial minutia from a specific article that nobody would remember. 

In the Gibson interview she didn't fuck anything up.  Charlie asked her about the Bush Doctrine.  Charles Krauthammer (who is no fan of Palin BTW) coined the term and said it was correct for her to ask which aspect of it he was referring to, as it could mean any of several deferent things.

And as far as the debate performance, I don't know what more you could have asked for.  She got everything right, managed to throw some hammers at Ø-bammy, and Joe The Biden beclowned himself with his typical gaffes.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 03, 2009 04:00 PM (IoUF1)

70 lorien1973: "It's really too bad she stunk up her interviews after that speech and didn't do better than she did in her debate."

Palin did fine, much better in the latter than the former. The mistake was Team McCain not insisting upon its own team of watchers/video to resplice all that hit the cutting room floor at CBS. As far as prep goes, Palin on her own would have been better. She's a natural. The thing that impeded her was having to adopt McCain's positions since she is more conservative that he is philosophically. Furthermore, she had an abbreviated timeframe to memorize McCain's legislative record, one that meanders pretty widely. She'd have been much better with her own trusted handlers rather than acquiesce to the entrenched D.C. crews that think they understand people outside the beltway but fundamentally don't.

In the debate, she schooled Slow Joe, the mulit-decade D.C. veteran, so much so that he became an afterthought. Concerns were made post-debate not that Palin wouldn't be a good VP but that McCain might die and she'd be President. It was Obama who she was getting matched up with. Biden was essentially taken out of the equation, so much so that Axelrod pretty much relegated him to mute because when he spoke, he damaged his own team. That's how good Palin was. Joe Biden hurt his own cause, but Palin made him a moot point.


"Also, it sucks that McCain didn't handle her properly. But more importantly, it sucks that McCain was an awful candidate."

Agree on both points. McCain played the milquetoast candidate we thought he was. He wouldn't take the gloves off and he shot himself in the foot when Bush's economic team and the Congress convened to stem the economic collapse. There's more, but that was the beginning of the end.

And it still would have been better to have McCain at the helm than Obama, Marxist/Socialist/Democrat catechism. So, Brooks is still the idiot we thought he was, too.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 03, 2009 04:29 PM (swuwV)

71 Oops. "...than he is philosophically."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 03, 2009 04:31 PM (swuwV)

72 Ace got a little too close to the punch bowl at that CPAC thing.

Posted by: dr kill at March 03, 2009 05:04 PM (JWAjn)

73

"It looks almost as though he is trying to take every serious question and make it into a joke so he doesn't have to address it.  It is paiful to watch."

He's been watching a lot of The West Wing, trying to get the proper flow and tempo to pull off some C.J. Craig-style sass and zing.

Unfortunately, the world is not scripted by Aaron Sorkin.  Equally unfortunate is the fact that, regardless, we still seem to have a TV-quality actor in the Oval Office.

Posted by: reason at March 03, 2009 05:09 PM (V40IZ)

74

Ace, your riff sums it up.  Perfectly.  I fondly recall your original Palin riff, "I've got a fever.  And the only prescription is more Moose Belle."

More Moose Belle.  Indeed.  Start printing the t-shirts.  But in the meantime, we must start recruiting state house and US House candidates.  Yes, a hero can save us, but I'm not gonna to stand here and wait.

Posted by: Dano at March 03, 2009 05:10 PM (HOZum)

75

"In the debate, she schooled Slow Joe, the mulit-decade D.C. veteran, so much so that he became an afterthought. Concerns were made post-debate not that Palin wouldn't be a good VP but that McCain might die and she'd be President. It was Obama who she was getting matched up with. Biden was essentially taken out of the equation, so much so that Axelrod pretty much relegated him to mute because when he spoke, he damaged his own team. That's how good Palin was. Joe Biden hurt his own cause, but Palin made him a moot point."

YES.  YES YES YES.

I am so glad that my wife and I were not the only two people that noticed this.  All of a sudden, it was Palin vs. Obama, because, all of a sudden, she was "one heartbeat away from the presidency."  It was virtually guaranteed that creaky ol' McCain didn't have four more years left in him (to which I hope that, in 2012, he makes an ad with all the soundbites to this effect, followed by a still picture of him with his huge dopey grin, flipping the bird with both hands.  "I'm John McCain, and I'm still alive, bitches."  But I digress...)

Posted by: reason at March 03, 2009 05:19 PM (V40IZ)

76

we still have to get us another RNC Chair, Steele is useless and he won't be getting a penny from me, ya don't get to say "ok you guys were right, but oh, by the way, he's staying" wrong answer

Posted by: shoey at March 03, 2009 05:20 PM (IRh55)

77

Steele is on Hannity kissing ass and brown-nosing.. just pisses me off

Posted by: shoey at March 03, 2009 05:22 PM (IRh55)

78 Watching this video makes me so sad.. That speech got me so fired up and I was sure we had this one. I kept telling myself, surely we are not going to elect a socalist POS whose middle name is Hussein.

Posted by: Matt at March 03, 2009 05:49 PM (r6SJw)

79 You know, nobody has problems with Victor Davis Hansen. I think he's a bit more elite than Brooks. Creditials wise anyway. I think its a revealing indictment of our educational system that those who should know better don't.

NOBODY is more elite than VDH.  A classics professor who is also a vintner?  Please.  The difference is he's a thoughtful, reasoned conservative voice, not a pompous upper-west side blowhard like Brooks, who cherishes his role as the media elite's "good" conservative.  At least George Will has the intellect to play around the fringes of that crowd and know he's being played.  Although I'd have more respect for Will if he's reach across the table and smack that insufferable dweeb Stephanopolous in the mouth once in a while.  That, or grope Claire Shipman under the table.



Posted by: Ombudsman at March 03, 2009 05:53 PM (fWF4Q)

80 Steele is on Hannity kissing ass and brown-nosing.. just pisses me off

Easier for him than a lot of other folks. Rimshot.

Posted by: Ombudsman at March 03, 2009 05:54 PM (fWF4Q)

81

VDH also runs his own business--the winery--that puts him in a league apart from the elitists and more in line with we plebians.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 03, 2009 06:35 PM (TpHGM)

82 I feel as Paulie did in this scene from Goodfellas when Henry begs him for help after Henry lied to him and disobeyed his orders;

Henry: I'm all right now, I'm clean Paulie, I can be trusted. On my kids I'm clean

Paulie: You looked in my eyes and you lied to me. You treated me like a fucking jerk. Like I was nothing to you.

Henry: Paulie, after what you said I couldn't come to you, I was ashamed. I'm ashamed now. But I got nowhere else to go Paulie, you're all I got and I really need your help.

Paulie: Take this (pulls a wad of bills from his pocket) Now I gotta turn my back.

Brooks, Buckley.... Now I gotta turn my back

Posted by: kbdabear at March 03, 2009 07:13 PM (miw86)

83 "Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer, dead!

Brooks ... Parker ... Buckley ... Noonan - come on, who's with me?"

Right there with ya...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 03, 2009 07:50 PM (wyTrB)

84 81 Agreed.

I can respect an elitist who wrote a book on the Peloponnesian Wars, because at least they have a degree in political science or history, something relevant to what they write about.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2009 07:52 PM (hPdh9)

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Anyway, people can have elite credentials but still be down to earth. It depends on how they were reared, or what field they wound up working in. Geography makes a huge difference too.

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His Hanson Papers web site says, "Hanson, who was the fifth successive generation to live in the same house on his family’s farm, was a full-time orchard and vineyard grower from 1980-1984..." but maybe he just grew the grapes to sell to wineries, stace, seeing as it didn't specifically mention a winery? Still, he ran a real business--a family farm--that puts him in a different class than the others. (I did see raisin growing and just "farmer" mentioned on other bio sites.)

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