1 You could've just put the headline up there, alone, and we'd have understood. No need to elaborate and link and all that shit.

2 Moderate = Triangulation. Brooks does not seem to hold any any opinion strongly except that one should not act too quickly in regards to anything. He is exactly the wrong type of person to have in a foxhole guarding your back. He should start the Neomoderate party. He, McCain, Specter, Snowe and Collins could all teach us morons how to lead a Republic.

3 "Moderate" is what liars call themselves. Brooks wasn't fooled then, and he isn't surprised now.

what purpose does he serve, exactly? Not only does he undermine the conservative cause and advance the liberal one, but he's just plain wrong along the way as he does so.

Right. That.

4 Amazing, isn't it?

So many of us non-Ivy League, non-Beltway, drooling, Limbaugh-listening proles were able to see Obama for what he was.  And our sophisticated betters fell for him like River City fell for Professor Harold Hill.

Remind me again:  Which side of that equation has the superiority complex?

5 AOS, buck up and stay mad.  If the grassroots has the energy to maintain that level of ire, leverage it man.  We have to keep the base stoked and firing emails at our elected curs in DC if we are going to turn this situation around.

6 "To be honest, I'm a bit exhausted by this constant Caddyshack-esque spat between the so-called elites and the grassroots. I find the elites more annoying, but I'm also getting annoyed by the excesses of the resentments-stoking on the grassroots side where every dispute mutates into an us vs. them cultural Rangnarok."

Sorry, dude, but it's kind of important.  If some of our resentments seem excessive, it's because the consequences of their dilettante embrace of Barack Obama are turning out to be pretty severe.

7 I have zero animosity towards elites who have earned their prosperity and success; they obviously have a role in our party. They err when they think that they should be the gatekeepers of leadership and that non-elites are not to be trusted.

Easy formula for an elite wishing to avoid being an unwanted ass: don't piss on your own party.

8

The only thing more scary than Obama’s experiment is the thought that it might fail and the political power will swing over to a Republican Party

-- Stuff True Conservatives Say, Vol. 1 (unabridged)

No sir! We definetly don't want him to fail.. nuh uh. Why that's incendiary! Republicans? In power? Wash your mouth, sir!

9 Yo David -- Good luck putting together that coalition of the uninterested and disengaged.

10 Remember this triangle?

Angle 1: Republican base
Angle 2: Democratic base
Angle 3: Fiscal Conservative, Socially Liberal

One of these angles is always the biggest, but never larger than the sum of the other two.

My advice to the political advice columnists is to keep talking.  The more they do the greater Angle 3 becomes.

11 Does that make [Palin] smarter than David Brooks?

Umm ... yes..  Yes, it does.

12 Even now this effete prick regards the Republican party as unprepared to lead.  Now in a vacuum that may be a reasonable notion, but contrasted to what these leftist fucks (Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al) are doing to our country? 

When Brooks and the rest fully and unconditionally admit what feckless idiots they have been, I'll be prepared to talk peace.

13

Okay, now I'm getting pissed off again.

Yeah, but at least you had a good excuse to link up that classic Iowahawk piece.

14 David Brooks and his ilk would rather have Barack Obama in charge than a grassroots conservative.  How am I supposed to agree with that position exactly?  Hell, why am I even supposed to tolerate it?

And the best part? Next week, or sooner, Brooks will be back telling us all how/what we should think and shaking his head sadly when we don't take his advice.

15

 The arrogance of Brooks, et al., was matched by the arrogant hissy fit another batch of Ivies who are lawyers and bloggers had when Pawlenty was not picked as Maverick's sidekick. And they, and other bloggers of the Axis of Defeatism, need to be called out as well.

  

16

I stopped reading Brooks a long time back.  I'm not surprised he hasn't gotten any smarter, because he wan't that smart to begin with.

17

in his defense, he was not the only moronic supposed "conservative" or "moderate" who fell for it because obama was just so well pedigreed.  doug kmiec, kenneth adelman, buckley, parker, noonan (and many more) were just as stupid.  To see the centrist in obama, you just had to ignore everything he had ever written, all those he had hung out with or acknowledged as an influence in his life, his voting record and his past employment.  It would seem an impossible task but they did it.

18 Hey David Brooks:  THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!

19

I thought the Reagan Democrats were Irish-Italian-Polish blue collar workers? And getting them on board by following the country club GOP lead is supposed to get them back? I doubt that alot.

20 "Okay, now I'm getting pissed off again."

About fricken time.

21

I continue to think this is destructive. Perhaps we need some catharsis and bloodletting, but at some point we have to stop focusing on what divides the conservative movement and start focusing on dividing the liberals from the Reagan Democrats.

Brooks, Cumdumpster Kathleen, Peggy Noonan and the rest of the elitist pieces of shit who sided with Ø-bammy and trashed Palin can go floss their twats with concertina wire for the rest of their miserable, and hopefully short, lives.

22

Moderate?  That's like, er middle of the road, right?  The yellow line where you always see the road kill?

A moderate, one that doesn't want to stand for anything, but doesn't want to offend anyone.  Usually seen at the Country Club sipping a trust fund gin and tonic. 

Soon, those trust funds are going to be gone and that moderate is going to be thinking, shit I might have to work.  Holy Jesus, this Obama MF was not the Hope and Change I was looking for.

Besides, who gives a fuck about Brooks?  Just another Ghey Andi wanta be with a soft ass.  Not that I would know, really.

Kemp

23

Heed the words of Cato the Elder:

Wise men profit more from fools than fools from wise men; for the wise men shun the mistakes of fools, but fools do not imitate the successes of the wise.

 

24 To be fair, Kathleen Parker is not an elite, never was, and never will be. She's an elite-wannabe. She has social anxiety many of the others don't face and has to do things to get in good with the A-crowd. Like sucking off the back-up place-holder on the football team-- she didn't *want* to do that, necessarily, but she had to do *something* to get invited to that party, yannow?

25 If you're a bit exhausted by the elites vs. grassroots battle, you can always surrender yourself to the tender embraces of Obama-Care. We'll just pretend everybody's right and fade away from history.

David Brooks didn't battle and supported Obama. McCain didn't battle and we got Obama. Steele apologizes that he doesn't want to battle.

Political Peace In Our Time sucks so far. Makes me think battling might have been important.

26 lol, Dennis Green

Thanks.  But you were fired soon thereafter you made this wise comment.

27 To be honest, I'm a bit exhausted by this constant Caddyshack-esque spat between the so-called elites and the grassroots. I find the elites more annoying, but I'm also getting annoyed by the excesses of the resentments-stoking on the grassroots side where every dispute mutates into an us vs. them cultural Rangnarok.*

The battle cry of the unprincipled, especially when they look up and see they're on the short side of the scoreboard.

28
...but I'm also getting annoyed by the excesses of the resentments-stoking on the grassroots side where every dispute mutates into an us vs. them cultural Rangnarok.*

WTF is this?

I'll tell you what it sounds like: It sounds like the moonbats when they say, "Yeah, but the Republicans do it, too."

Dude, here, I'll prove it mathematically: Brooks', the Noonan's, the Frum's, etc., are 100% wrong. We, the other side, are 0% wrong on Obama. QED

29

Imagine just how fucking stupid you would have to not be able to see what a bullshit artist Barry is.

HEY BROOKS YOU IDIOT, HE'S FROM CHICAGO.

Oh, but Brooks can speak unthreateningly and be docile, quote Yeats and happy to be laughed at by cruel little liberal fuckheads.

30 Ace,

Once again you're missing the point. Our "resentments" come from the way the elites look down their noses at us and constantly profess that they know better than we do so we should just sit back and let them run things. Damn it man, this is the exact same mindset of liberalism. We, the mob, are all backwater, redneck, ignoramuses who are too stupid to wipe our own asses and they, the "intellectuals", have to take over for our own good.

I for one am tired of this attitude, regardless of whether it comes from the left or the right; however it's a tad more offensive coming from people who claim to stand on the principles of our founding (ie, the peeps on "our side"), not to mention hypocritical.

These are the same asshats that threw Palin to the wolves (and hell a lot of them joined in!) and spent 6 months playing the victim when they were rightfully called out by the grassroots people for supporting the liberal messiah. The same douchebags that have spent the 3 months post-election telling us that we grassroots people (the bitter clingers who are stuck in our old-fashioned principles) are the reason Republicans lost so big during this election and that we nned to be wishy-washy like them if we want to win over the "middle".

Suprise, suprise! Now that Obama's all but started wearing a "Socialism Rocks!" t-shirt, we find them totally dumbfounded, writing columns that collectively whine "Bbbbbbbut he said he would govern from the center." If they'd listened to us morons they may have had a hint of all this beforehand.

So, yes. I'm angry. I'm resentful. And I still want David Brooks to eat shit and die.

31 "ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 03, 2009 02:24 PM (IoUF1)"


lol, tell us what you really think.

32

I wonder what it's like to be David Brooks and look at yourself in the mirror sporting those ridiculous glasses, elite Ivy League education and massive unearned ego knowing that you're not really very intellegent and that but for the protected confines of the NYTimes you'd be teaching philosophy to business majors at a community college?  The far-left moonbat who works for my free alternative weekly and reliably spouts disproven far left talking points straight from Daily Kos and Media Matters shows more common sense and intellectual consistency than David Brooks (and actually teaches at a community college I believe).  After all he was able to quickly identify Obama as a fellow traveler and supported him accordingly.  Brooks is truly stupid and no veneer of an impeccible elitist education and the quoting of various obscure authors can disguise it.  You can train a moron to regurgitate stuff and call it smarts but the ability to analyze a situation and draw the correct conclusions shows real smarts and Brooks is clearly a fucking idiot. 

 

     

 

33 Sarah Palin wasn't taken in by Obama's easy, Ivy charm. Does that make her smarter than David Brooks?

That proves Palin has more perceptive intuition than Brooks. Of itself, sophistry is its own weakness when becoming its own end to all things.

With Obama, there is no tolerance for opposition.

Hearing Brooks echo below the Obamnibus wheels will provide an interesting rhythm. His "WTF" chorus might have a catchy ring to it.

It will be interesting to note the details surrounding the coming attraction as Obama rolls over the typical white woman Noonan for having presumed to have earned his favors.

34 Couple weeks ago at NRO Steyn expressed his shock that Obama was going to expand "hate crime" laws and extend affirmative action to women.

Obama had posted those policies prominently on his website for two years, and campaigned on them in the longest, most expensive, and most watched campaign ever.

Steyn, a flamboyant broadway afficionado, fashion writer, foreign policy hawk, demography expert, and ex-deejay, is said to be among the highest grossing hacks in the English speaking world.  Couldn't be arsed to take a 5 minute look at Obama's website to read his actual policies, which may as well have been inferred given his ultra-Marxist voting record in the Senate.

Like, fuck, seriously.

35 And yet, in his piece, Brooks is still appalled by "the Rush Limbaugh brigades".

Hey, dipshit:  WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT OBAMA, AND YOU WERE WRONG.

Now, in a rational world, you'd think he might look at us differently after that.

On another board I frequent (music, mostly lefties), I was asked after the election how our side would handle the loss.  I said we'd lick our wounds, then turn on each other and drive out the weak.

It's drive-out-the-weak time.

36 looks like the moderate senators of brooks' dreams aren't listening either-they are on board with all the spending. 

37 "in his defense, he was not the only moronic supposed "conservative" or "moderate" who fell for it because obama was just so well pedigreed.  doug kmiec, kenneth adelman, buckley, parker, noonan (and many more) were just as stupid."

That's not much of a defense; they should all go fuck themselves, and Parker should be forced to call out Sarah Palin's name while she does so.

38 Moderate?  That's like, er middle of the road, right?  The yellow line where you always see the road kill?--Kempermanx

During the campaign, I referenced that center lane designated for Left turn only. At this point, the road kill is RINO.

All those lining up to eat from the Obama pork trough position themselves for slaughter.

39

"Sarah Palin wasn't taken in by Obama's easy, Ivy charm. Does that make her smarter than David Brooks?"

Yes. Just based on that, a lot of people are smarter than David Brooks.

40
Ace, please think back to last fall and how frustrated you were about McCain ignoring the base and continuing his path to failure. Every day McCain would wiff every time Obama threw him a softball. We were on the sidelines trying to coach McCain. "Hey asshole, you're doing it wrong," we said. McCain ignored us, he gave us the finger, he told us, "I can handle it, so please fuck off, my friends."

McCain was wrong; they were all wrong. We were right. This is no time to work together. This is no longer a joint effort. We need to wrest control from these losers, these failures, and start winning again.

41

Mr.Barnum knew whereof he spoke. Given the choice between believing a man's promises absent any proof that he'll make good on them or believing that his past behavior tends to predict his future behavior, your average fool will choose the former every time.

So, good for you, Mr. Brook's that the confusion vapors you inhaled whilst your foolish arrogant head was shoved up Obama's ass have now dissipated. Congratulations. But I can't help but think that the next time a bamboozler invites you to breathe deeply, you'll still take off your common sense hat and insert your cranium. That's your right, I suppose, but I can only offer a hearty fuck you for all the others you'll no doubt try to pull in with you yet again.

42 Mandy P. @ 30 and Big E @ #32:

+100

43

I don't like being around lefties.

Brooks does like being around lefties.

He's an insipid little grandmother to the idiot Rod Dreher.

They both can take their little clubby clubs where they talk softly about important things and shove them up their flabby asses.

44

He seems to be still justifying his original choice by saying the Republican Party is currently unfit for power. I don't see why he is still so torn. Does he really think if the other idiot won we would be in this mess? He apparently has no analytical skills.

45 Posted by: Authentic Conservative at March 03, 2009 02:34 PM (Qd4zK)

Steyn never fell for Obama's bullshit, not once.  He didn't vote for him, didn't advocate on his behalf, and never fell for the Hopenchange.  Lots of conservative pundits to excoriate, but not Steyn.

46 "He's an insipid little grandmother to the idiot Rod Dreher."

Oh don't even get me started on this worthless douchebag.  "Crunchy" con...what a tool.

47

To be fair, Kathleen Parker is not an elite, never was, and never will be.

And some of us went to an Ivy League school and still like Palin.

48

49 David Catamite Brooks: “We moderates are going to have to assert ourselves.”

I can’t stop laughing. I can’t. This guy may be the most brilliant self-satirist since Chico Marx.

50 Here's another little gem from Brooks' piece:

Those of us who consider ourselves moderates — moderate-conservative, in my case — are forced to confront the reality that Barack Obama is not who we thought he was. His words are responsible; his character is inspiring.

So Brooks still hasn't really taken his head out of his ass.  He's just thinking about it.

"His character is inspiring."  Fucking A.  You don't get out much, do you, David?

51 Sorry, but I'm not in the mood right now to forgive and forget.  For their betrayal (and that's what it was), let them gnash their teeth in the outer darkness for now.  We will let them know when they can come inside.

52 Steyn has never endorsed Obama and never said a kind word about him. Please don't try to lump him in with the Frum, Buckley minor, Parker, Noonan, Kmiec cabal.

53

at some point we have to stop focusing on what divides the conservative movement

This is not a division in the conservative movement, it's a division in the Republican party. It's a division between the conservatives and the (for lack of a better word) liberals. And its a struggle between them to determine who will set the direction for the GOP going forward. It's not something that can be papered over.

54

Steyn, a flamboyant broadway afficionado, fashion writer, foreign policy hawk, demography expert, and ex-deejay, is said to be among the highest grossing hacks in the English speaking world.  Couldn't be arsed to take a 5 minute look at Obama's website to read his actual policies, which may as well have been inferred given his ultra-Marxist voting record in the Senate.

Dude, WTF?

55 "Kmiec"

*Ptew.*

Sorry, I can't see his name without spitting on the ground.

56 Brooks is still appalled by "the Rush Limbaugh brigades".
Hey, dipshit:  WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT OBAMA, AND YOU WERE WRONG.--tsj017

Precisely!

Every vote Obama failed to get was a direct vote AGAINST OBAMA'S RADICAL SOCIALISM because that opposition already researched and studied the detailed records.

Yet, Obamanatics can not conceive of history prior to their own perception of the present moment (devolved propaganda).

57

Oooh! Oooh! A chubby club! Can I join?

58

I thought the Reagan Democrats were Irish-Italian-Polish blue collar workers

Hell, those guys were the Nixon Democrats. My dad was one of them. Revered FDR, but LBJ soured him on Donks, George McGovern finished it. People who bust their ass 8 hours a day building things get kinda grumpy about getting shaken down to support fatasses who won't work. Could happen again!

59

Oh, shit! That's "clubby club" not "chubby club". Fuck you, Sen. Gov. E. Buzz Miller, PhD, you teaser.

8=^(

60 and to deflect the blame he should get for his stupidity, he is puffing about rush and the inadequacies of Republicans.  he needs a good shrink

61

There was an interesting subtext to the hostility towards Sarah Palin (and the adoration of Obama). It is the fetish many liberals and MSM commentators (but I repeat myself) have for a certain kind of intelligence: not the common-sensical kind of smarts that Palin obviously has, but rather an abstract braininess that as often as not does not translate into competence at a given job.

My uncle used to call this kind of intelligence "asshole smart". Which is to say, a guy might be a professor in astrophysics but if he can't change a tire then what real use is he to the world? Abstract intelligence is laudable, but is desirable in a job candidate only when it contributes to their ability to do the job. And yet politicians as often as not hold advanced degrees in law, economics, business, and so on; and yet are some of hte most inept and deeply clueless people in society. (And we keep voting for these people; what does that say about us?)

I would not think more of Sarah Palin if she could quote The Rime of the Ancient Mariner or perform differential calculus in her head. And yet there are many out there for whom this abstract ability is the main indicator of personal worth. I find this sad. I have met many people who are perhaps not the brightest bulbs and yet are wonderful people and credits to the species; whereas I have met several PhD's who are execrable human beings, complete moral abysses.

Intelligence is not a moral property, nor is it often even a practical aspect of a person's ability to perform well in a given job. All things being equal it's obviously better to be smart, but all things are rarely if ever equal.

 

62 "Harvard-Princeton axis about which the world turns?"

Hey! What about us Elis?

63

at some point we have to stop focusing on what divides the conservative movement and start focusing on dividing the liberals from the Reagan Democrats.

 

Good idea. What's dividing the Reagan Democrats from the GOP are people like Brooks, Frum, Little Lord Buckley, etc. So we need to show the liberal Republicans the door, and then we can show the liberals in the Democratic party the door as well. It's win-win.

 

64 He seems to be still justifying his original choice by saying the Republican Party is currently unfit for power

The problem is, I agree with Brooks here. The current crop of halfwits, douchewhistles, and bumblefucks that are in charge of the Republican Party are unfit to lead. Hell, they're unfit to lead a cub scout to a candy store.

So yes, Brooks is a twat-stain, but he's pointed out a real problem.

65

Crunchy Con means Easily-Wedgied-and-Swirlied Paste-Eating Whiny Soft-Talking Clubby Little Douchebag to me...

66 Geez...I wonder how many more of these Obambi cockholsters will finally realize that the Unicorn and Skittles actually are the flavor of Obambi's ass???  They sold their fucking souls to put this idiot and his ilk in office and now they are suffering from "buyer's remorse"... FUCKING SUCKS TO BE YOU, David Brooks!

Hate to tell him this, but we told him so....

67 "The arrogance of Brooks, et al., was matched by the arrogant hissy fit another batch of Ivies who are lawyers and bloggers had when Pawlenty was not picked as Maverick's sidekick. And they, and other bloggers of the Axis of Defeatism, need to be called out as well."--eddiebear

Ed Morrissey really likes/liked Pawlenty. But look what a younger version of McCain-as-turncoat-politician Pawlenty turns out to prove himself to be. McCain may well have done conservatives a huge favor by not choosing Pawlenty who promotes "new and improved" progressive defeatism.

68 That's not much of a defense; they should all go fuck themselves, and Parker should be forced to call out Sarah Palin's name while she does so.


Nice!

69
RE:  Ragnarok and bloodletting

What better time than now?  We're still a year away from primary season for the midterms.  Everybody who was not 100% on-board with the STOP-OBAMA-NOW! effort need to be kicked repeatedly when they go down.

When this nightmare of an administration forces the middle to turn away from the disastrous effects of this lefty agenda writ large, that will be a perfect time to instruct them on the principles of true conservatism.  The squishes offer only leftism-lite.

70 Go fellate a shotgun, Brooks.

71 Monty at 02:52 PM
ditto

72

"Sarah Palin wasn't taken in by Obama's easy, Ivy charm. Does that make her smarter than David Brooks?"

Yes.

73


I would like to take a large brimming bowl filled with a nice Quaker granola, softened up a bit with some organic 2% and drive it right into Dave Brooks' eyeglasses, those stupid 1989 Rick Moranis glasses...

But I would do it while talking softly about Russell Kirk, of course.

74

As Clemenza says,"These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps get to rid of the bad blood."

Carping amongst Republicans will be forgotten in the wake of the Obamalypse.

75

Angle 1: Republican base
Angle 2: Democratic base
Angle 3: Fiscal Conservative, Socially Liberal

One of these angles is always the biggest, but never larger than the sum of the other two.

The number of people in this country who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal could fit in phone booth. If you could even find a phone booth these days.

It seems like half the so-called libertarian movement has been supporting the Never-Ending Bailout. And another quarter of it is opposed to actually cutting anything.

 

 

76 It is the fetish many liberals and MSM commentators (but I repeat myself) have for a certain kind of intelligence: not the common-sensical kind of smarts that Palin obviously has, but rather an abstract braininess that as often as not does not translate into competence at a given job.

My uncle used to call this kind of intelligence "asshole smart".

That's it. I have no problem with people who go to school for a lot of years and who are book-smart. But I've known, and worked with/for enough of them over the years to know that expecting them to RUN anything well is really foolish.

IOW, it's the worshipers who bug me.

77 #63
Doubleplus 1!

78 Those of us who consider ourselves moderates — moderate-conservative, in my case — are forced to confront the reality that Barack Obama is not who we thought he was.

That line right there is funny enough to almost make up for the whole thing!

79

Honestly, how in the HELL can someone be so stupid to not see through the Barry bullshit.

He is apparently not part of the liberal establishment that knows who that asshole is yet loves him for it, Brooks must just be a lunkhead.

80 "at some point we have to stop focusing on what divides the conservative movement and start focusing on dividing the liberals from the Reagan Democrats"

This won't be done by obvious persuasion.  It'll be done by a preference cascade as it finally sinks in what an incompetent, socialistic boob Barry is.

In other words -- keep attacking him for his blunders and wrong turns.  No apologies.

81 Maybe Brooks just got some NYT social disease that messed up his head. Took a sip out of MoDo's coffee cup by mistake, or sat on the toilet after Herbert. Shit like that happens.

82 You know what's funny about this?  These "moderate" fuckwits are always telling us how we need a "big tent", we must compromise, "reach across the aisle", blah, blah, blah. So we they and their 'Rat friends nominate the biggest moderate, compromising, reach-across-the-aisling old crank we could find.  Then, when he picks a real conservative (who has actually, you know, ACCOMPLISHED SOME FUCKING THINGS in her career instead of writing memoirs and fucking around in Pakistan) as a running mate to pacify us, they ran like little bitches to Lord Teleprompter so they can bask in the glow of his pendulous man-tits.

In other words, it's not us who are intolerant of dissenting views, it's THEM. They want a big tent, but only so they can fit more liberals inside.  Conservatives and those who didn't go to Ivy League schools and have actually had a real job at some point in their lives aren't welcome.  It's to embarrassing for them to have to admit even being in the same party with us to the faux-intellectual mental masturabators in the salons of Paris and the Manhattan literati scene.

So FUCK THEM.  THEY are expendable.  Sarah Palin and Rush are not.  Hence my earlier graphic comment.

83 there is no such thing as a fiscal conservative/social liberal.  Arnold was the last one offered-how's that going, Caleefornya?  didn't the three wise social Republican liberals just sign off on obama's spending?

84 Think about it... Brooksy is the token "conservative" lawn jockey at the NYT. If he weren't a tool when he went in, he must be one by now.

85

This is not the Barack Obama I thought I knew.

 

 

86

You guys who are always busting on the Creator of Worlds need to go read his piece at Hot Air. It's very well-written and not at all wishy-washy. He doesn't deserve a lot of the criticism he gets here and a quick read will prove it. Now, the Eeyore stuff he comes by honestly.

Palin is a great touchstone for this divide. If you ever passed along any crap like she doesn't believe in dinosaurs or contraception or you snickered when somebody claimed she did, you are on the other side of the divide. Whether you support her or not, that shit ain't funny, and reveals an elitist meanness that your parents should have beaten out of you as a whelp.

87 RE: ASSHOLE SMART

Brilliant.  As my first boss used to say, "I never met a PhD who didn't need one."

88

#50

"His character is inspiring."  Fucking A.  You don't get out much, do you, David?

tsjo17,  Brooks is fucking ghey, with jungle fever, don't you get it?

Kemp

 

89 Roy - he probably has sex with MoDo...that would fuck with just about anyone's head

90

I find this sad. I have met many people who are perhaps not the brightest bulbs and yet are wonderful people and credits to the species; whereas I have met several PhD's who are execrable human beings, complete moral abysses.

I've often said some of the brightest idiots I've ever met had college degrees.

91 #89
So it was hot chick-on-chick action?

92 I can't speak for others but the reason I dislike the "elites" is that they aren't, well, elite.  If someone is wildly intelligent and well educated, they're elite.  If they can only use the right buzzwords and look good in tweed, they're not.

Look, I went to the University of Chicago, a good school.  And, I'll tell you, there are two huge differences between the various students there.  a) Raw intelligence.  Some kids made it in because their parents spent $30k on SAT prep and elite extracurriculars.  Some kids made it in because they were smart as fuck and could ace the SAT with a hangover.  b) Actual education.  Some kids took a ton of soft sciences and avoided all challenging classes.  Other kids were smashed all day long with econometrics and honors physics.

At the end of the day, both of those groups might be called elites but only one set actually was.

Now, tell me, when you look at our elites, don't they most look like the kids who took a lot of SAT prep classes and loaded up on the soft social sciences?

93 Brooks, Frum, et al, are chatters, not thinkers.  They can only reflect the conventional wisdom of the moment rather than shape it.

As Kratos like to point out:  In the end, there's only chaos ... and me.

94

In other words, it's not us who are intolerant of dissenting views, it's THEM. They want a big tent, but only so they can fit more liberals inside. 

 

Case in point: Brent Schundler.

Schundler was elected as the first Republican Mayor of Jersey City, NJ since 1917. He did not do it by being a Giuliani style Republican either, he was the real deal. You might think that the GOP would be interested in a man who can get elected, then re-elected, in a majority-minority city where only 6% of the voters are registered Republicans. You might think they'd consider him a rising star and tap him for higher office.

At least you might think these things if you did not know that the one thing the liberal GOP establishment hates far more than a Democrat is a conservative.

 

95 Case in point: Brent Schundler.

I remember that guy. Whatever happened to him?

96 Miyagi: Now, ready?
Daniel: Yeah, I guess so.
Miyagi: [sighs] Daniel-san, must talk.
[they both kneel]
Miyagi: Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later
[makes squish gesture]
Miyagi: get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes" or karate do "no." You karate do "guess so,"
[makes squish gesture]
Miyagi: just like grape. Understand?

Mr. Miyagi FTW.

97 The gov't could knock down some serious revenue by taxing crow. Because there are a lot of motherfuckers eating it in large quantities right now.

98

If you aren't smart, but want to be seen as such, you learn how to move about with politics and ass kissing.

Michael Steele, Dave Brooks...

You ever wonder why it is people like those two morons who are able to be loved by liberals?

99

Hahahaha

Yeah, Obama really, really was going to be bipartisan and down-the-middle on economics issues, with 90% of his campaign money coming from far left motherfuckers.

Oh my Christ this guy is reeeeeTARDED

100 David Brooks is a cancer on the Republican party. And if somebody reads that line to mean that Brooks, like cancers, is in line for some cutting or should be irradiated or dosed with poison until he shrivels up and dies, well, I'm not an Ivy League educated supergenius, so I'm not smart enough to understand what an incendiary statement that is.

101 There is a difference, in my mind, between the elites and an elitist. Some elites have talent and brains and have worked to attain their status. They have my admiration. Elitists, on the other hand, have a plan for my life and I'd just as soon live it my way, in fact I insist.

102 "the Republican Party is currently unfit for power"

Who died and made David Brooks god, designating the entire Republican Party and all its members as unfit to lead?

Boehner is a fit Republican leader. Palin proved herself fit for power winning Alaska's Governorship. Jindal proved the Democrats in Louisiana unfit for power, and himself fit. Limbaugh is a fit voice leading conservatism throughout America.

Brooks' lament amounts to his own self condemnation. He is unfit to write, and unfit to be read. Regardless of style with focus on content, Brooks is meaningless, and misery loves company.

There are many Republicans fit for power, and that they are rallying to the Constitution is proof of their sensibilities. Those chiding defeatism charge into disaster, even if by sitting still on the fence post blocking the necessary flow of resilient energy.

Socialists coined the slogan, "don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution" in order to exonerate themselves from guilt of commission from their socialist cultural Marxist experiments while at the same time blaming any who dug their heels in against abuse as the culprits of omission who cause the failures embedded in Socialist meddling. It's a Socialist distractive blame game tactic to deny the record simply because it proves the fallacy of what is now hypocritically termed "liberalism".

As things are, Steele and many others have mountains to scale in order to gain through experience the higher strategic ground. Positive criticism is a great teacher, whereas resonating the echo of defeatism causes destructive avalanches. True enough, to win requires the finest observation and communication skills. Perhaps Steele has a limited time frame in his current position dependent upon his own ability to overcome personal shortcomings such as VANITY.

103 Now, tell me, when you look at our elites, don't they most look like the kids who took a lot of SAT prep classes and loaded up on the soft social sciences?

counter, I agree with you 100 million percent. That's what frosts me so much about people blathering about O!'s intelligence or speaking ability and everything every said or written about the likes of MoDo; Brooks; Frum; anyone at NRO, the Atlantic, or Slate; etc and etc ad infinitum. They're simply not that bright, not in common sense and not in quality education. They can spout the buzzwords and ramble on in ways that impress English/writing professors, but they are simply dim. They're not well read, they do not have good thoughts (not in the politically correct way, but in a perspicacious way), and they don't know anything worthwhile.I'm including an adequate grasp of history and literature in that, much less science, logic, or philosophy/religion.

And, seriously, to anyone who thinks Obama is a good public speaker - listen to two minutes of him reading off a teleprompter at his shiniest and then any random clip of Rush Limbaugh or Ronald Reagan. Or, if you prefer, FDR (great delivery) or Winston Churchill (somehwat choppy delivery, but absolute confidence). Those last guys have oratory down. Obama, not so much.

104

There sure are a lot of dumb smart people.

105 "Ragnarok".  Cool.

106
Ace:

May I suggest a new title for this post?

"David Brooks Recalls Conservative Principles and his Clean, Articulate, Neibuhr-esque Ass Fucking, but Mostly his Clean, Articulate, Neibuhr-esque Ass Fucking"

I've taken the liberty of translating his latest lament.

"You wouldn't know it some days, but there are moderates in this counrty--moderate conservatives, moderate liberals, just plain moderates.  We sympathize with a lot of the things that President Obama is trying to do.  We like investments in education and energy innovation.  We support health care reform that expands coverage while reducing costs"

I like things that sound nice.  In fact, as a moderate, I'd say that's my defining characteristic and the defining characteristic of moderates in general.  We like politicians who just keep talking about nice things and don't bother us with any trifles like "How will that ever work?"

"But the Obama budget is more than just the sum of its parts... There is entailed in it, a promiscuous unwillingness to set priorities and accept trade-offs..."

But even a moderate like me, who likes nice-sounding things, knows that some things sound... too nice.  And as a moderate, that makes me moderately suspicious.  Indeed, when I can, for just one moment, stop flattering Obama myself -- for instance with how amazing he is when he amazingly summarizes Neibuhr -- I start to wonder, who does this Obama think he is?

"So programs are piled on top of each other and we wind up with a gargantuan $3.6 trillion budget."

And it's usually right about this time, that I remember what sucks about being a moderate who is a complete whore for someone who's a good Neibuhr summarizer and says other nice things... The BILL !!!

"The US has never been a society riven by class resentment.  yet the Obama budget is predicated on class divide...

"The U.S. has always been a decentralized nation, skeptical of top-down planning. Yet, the current administration concentrates enormous power in Washington...

"The U.S. has always had vibrant neighborhood associations... but... the Obama administration... punishes civic activism and expands state intervention.

The U.S. has traditionally had a relatively limited central government.  But federal spending as a share of GDP is zooming..."

And then I also remember another thing that sucks about being a moderate...  Once we do see the bill, we start thinking about all sorts of things that we should have thought about before the election when we were too busy listening to nice, clean, articulate sounding things like Neibuhr summaries, and shunning stupid rubes whose guns and god  might give us The Social Cancer.

"Those of us who consider ourselves moderates... are forced to confront the reality that Obama is not who we thought he was.  His words are responsible; his character is inspiring.  But his actions betray a transformational liberalism that should put every centrist on notice..."

It's tragic, really.  Why is is that all the best Neibuhr summarizers always fuck me in the ass and then never call.  I feel so... used.

"Moderates now find themselves betwixt and between.  On the left, there is a  president who appears to be... a bold progressive liberal.  On the right, there are the Rush Limbaugh brigades.  The only thing more scary than Obama's experiment is the thought that it might fail and the political power will swing over to a Republican Party that is currently unfit to weild it."

Oh, who am I kidding?  I just can't help myself.  Give me 1,000 sweet-Neiburh-talking ass fuckings!  It's better than being thought of as one of those types!  I live in New York!  I'm cosmopolitan!  I READ NEIBUHR!!!!

"Those of us in the moderate tradition -- the Hamiltonian tradition that believes in limited but energetic government -- thus find ourselves facing a void.  We moderates are going to have to assert ourselves.  We're going to have to take a centrist tendency that has been politically feckless and intellectually vapid and turn it into an influential force.

" The first task will be to block the excesses of unchecked liberalism... It will be up to moderates to raise the alarms against these ideological outrages."

Well I for one am not going to take it any more!  I am going to get my fellow moderates who share my lack of conviction, mushy-headedness and gullibility... my love of nice-sounding things... my love of Neibuhr... and say to all of those clean, articulate, nice-talking Neibuhr summarizers....

... No!  You will not fuck me in the ass anymore!  Everyone look out!  This clean, articulate smooth talker will say nice sounding things and summarize Neibuhr in ways that will make you wet, but all he really wants to do is fuck you in the ass and then not call!

"But beyond that, moderates will have to sketch out an alternative vision... of a nation... in which burdens are shared broadly, rather than simply inflicted upon a small minority... a nation that does not try to build prosperity on a foundaiton of debt... that puts competitiveness and growth first, not redistribution first."

Yes!  We few... we band of moderates!  We will stand up and articulate our vision!   It will be a bold vision!  It will be a courageous vision!  It will be a fashionable vision!  It will be the very same vision, the same philosophy and the same ideology of the rubes, racists and hicks that we actively condescended to and sought to defeat only five months ago!

"Moderates are going to have to try to tamp down the polarizing warfare... face fiscal realities honestly... offer and agenda that inspires confidence by its steadiness rather than shaking confidence with its hyperactivity.

"If they can do that, maybe they can lure the White House back to its best self--and someday offer respite from teh endless war of the extremes."

Because maybe if the sweet-Neibuhr-talking ass fucker that I love so much can just see how I really feel... maybe he'll call me.

107

Whatever happened to him?

The NJ GOP branded him a right-wing wacko and sabotaged his run for Governor. So we lucky people in NJ got Jim McGreevy instead.

McGreevy was too sleazy even for NJ and resigned when it came out that he was sucking random guys dicks in the parking lot and having the state police be his lookout. Plus appointing his boyfriend to patronage positions with the DHS.

But the state GOP was spared a conservative and thats the important thing.

If it seems that my hate for liberal Republicans burns hotter than a thousand suns, well, I'm just returning the favor. It cannot be overstated how much those people detest conservatives.

 

 

108

There sure are a lot of dumb smart people.

Perhaps judgement and intelligence run on separate tracks in the brain.  Who knows.  There has to be some explanation.

109

You can train a moron to regurgitate stuff and call it smarts but the ability to analyze a situation and draw the correct conclusions shows real smarts and -Brooks is clearly a fucking idiot. 

 -Big E

Intelligence is not a moral property, nor is it often even a practical aspect of a person's ability to perform well in a given job. All things being equal it's obviously better to be smart, but all things are rarely if ever equal.

-Monty

Pssssst! Hey elites! This is what smart looks like, you twats.

110

Now, tell me, when you look at our elites, don't they most look like the kids who took a lot of SAT prep classes and loaded up on the soft social sciences?

I sure didn't.  I took "affirmative action" and my brother could run really, really fast!

111

Seriously, it is not credible to pull a "I never saw this coming" on Obama.  Effing blind?   

112 RE: ASSHOLE SMART

Mark Steyn recently laughed about the British Royalty having personal grooms whose job description includes wiping the royal ass clean.

That pretty well epitomizes the extremes.

Marxist new guard self indulging aristocrat thug elitists expect the rest of us to be their royal ass wipers. They know how to take our wealth in order to binge and consume and devour and excrete spending but have neither the will nor the skill to wipe their own ass clean. They would that their shit be our just deserts.

113 Absolutely, Ella.  Also, my definition of elite is simply brains plus education, which, frankly, has less and less to do with a take-the-easy-classes Ivy League education.

I'll give you an example, my grandpa.  High school diploma, spent most of his life working on power lines.  So, he's obviously not an elite, right?  Well, he was nearly a genius with math, had read all the classics, and after retiring, pursued geology like a mad 17th century gentleman scientist.  You'd talk to the guy and he'd blow your mind.

But, to current affectations, he's a blue collar prole and David Brooks (who probably doesn't understand how a single appliance in his house works) is an elite thinker.  What bullshit!

114

OBAMAS NOT WHO MODERATES IDIOTS THOUGHT HE WAS

There, Dave.

Fixed it for you.

115

There sure are a lot of dumb smart people.

Perhaps judgement and intelligence run on separate tracks in the brain.  Who knows.  There has to be some explanation.

They're educated stupid. Not really smart at all.

116

I am by no means a rocket scientist- a bit of a dope really (have to write out the 20% calculations for tips), but Ive been calling bullshit on Barry from day one. 

 

117 A clear distinction between elite and elitist differentiates between the elite "finest" and the elitist "snob".

118

"Those of us in the moderate tradition -- the Hamiltonian tradition that believes in limited but energetic government

 WTF?? People actually trace the tradition of Hamilton? That guy was a douchebag..

I just thought they were, you know, douchebags who weren't paying much attention. I didn't know there's a whole school of commited Douchebagism that they were aiming for.

119
Brooks & Hamilton... that's so perfect.

He idolozes a guy who got himself killed by getting into a duel, and then taking the high road by not shooting at his opponent.


Perfect.

Perfect... perfect... perfect.

120 I went to an elite-ish undergrad school that was Republican-heavy and then to an Ivy for grad school and the big difference was the amount of their self-esteem that was invested in being thought of as smart at the Ivy. During undergrad hardly anyone I knew gave a fuck about learning for the sake of impressing other people. They just worked hard in order to meet objectives (grad school, good job, etc) and then spent the rest of their time getting drunk and trying to get laid, knowing that the rest of their lives would be full of adult responsibilities. Libtards on the other hand, tend to remain adolescent. And the thing about having a deep-seated need to be thought of as smart is that it makes you extremely vulnerable to liberal groupthink. I'm actually surpised that a pussy like David Brooks who desperately needs intellectual validation manages to cling to conservatism at all. I almost don't know whether to despise him for his squishiness or admire the fact that he tries.

121

I'm thinking a bumper sticker reading "So, how's that 'hope and change' working out for you?" could be a good seller.

 

122 "Mark Steyn recently laughed about the British Royalty having personal grooms whose job description includes wiping the royal ass clean."

Are they hiring?  I haven't had a job since before Thanksgiving.

123 "Those of us in the moderate tradition -- the Hamiltonian tradition that believes in limited but energetic government"

I saw what he wrote! He knows nothing of my work! He means my whole fallacy is wrong. How he got to write a column in anything is totally amazing!

124 What a stupid cunt...

125

As a Bubba oriented Republican (Auburn Grad), why can't we have knock down drag out fights between Christopher Hitchens and Rush.  That would be fun!   I'd boo Hitchens pretty regularly and with great enthusiasm, but I wouldn't be surprised if he made a point or two.  Brooks or Parker would be road kill against Rush, and I wouldn't even want to read the box scores.  If we are going to have intellectual superiors on the right could we at least get smart ones?  I know stupid intellectuals worked out great for the Democrats, but do we need to copy everything they do?

126 I know I'm late to the thread.  Don't know about Brooks, but I did rad the Buckley piece pre-election and found it to be such dreck that one could hardly give him the title of "elite."  Like I said before, if this is the intelligentsia that Republicans need to rely on to make the argument, it's no wonder Repubs lost the election. 

127

Ace,

Have yopu read your masthead lately

128 Hoover belonged to the last century's turn deification of engineers. But his failure was in not understanding how to create what he envisioned, his every effort meddling the economic catastrophe further.

FDR took the "inherited catastrophe" and meddled it into a DECADE of suffering through federal socialism.

LBJ took FDR's welfare program and gave America "comprehensive welfare reform" tied with his "Great Society" ribbon.

BHO takes the lead from all of the above in order to simultaneously consume and change all things in the New World Order. Given Obama's first 100 days out-spending the nation's conglomerated deficit since inception, you still ain't seen nothin' yet! To date, nationalization has been the spoken threat. But nationalization assimilates into the New World Order where there is no individualism, only the slavery of collectivism.

Given the opposition to the BHO brand of socialism, his dream is precisely too big to succeed. The higher his pride takes him, the harder the fall. Our misfortune rests in how far we permit BHO to rise, as he most certainly will take everyone down with him.


 

129 Guvnah... a bright and amusing moron you are. God love ya.

130

Guvnah, I second #129.

GYOFB, and I mean that in the nicest way.

 

 

131 "The current crop of halfwits, douchewhistles, and bumblefucks that are in charge of the Republican Party are unfit to lead."

Ehhhh... you're giving a broken clock too much credit. I think he thinks the Republican party is unfit to lead for a completely different reason you do.

132 "but at some point we have to stop focusing on what divides the conservative movement and start focusing on dividing the liberals from the Reagan Democrats."

Yeah, that's what we're doing. 80% of the country is sick of our overlord class.

133 Without reading the 125+ posts above me, and therefore risking repeating a point, my immediate and lasting take on the caricature of Sarah Palin as a poorly-educated rube found its birth in the fact that she went to college at a (western) state university as opposed to the Ivy League or Annapolis or West Point.  It's not difficult to prove that the prominent people in our nation are a legion of snobs. 

If you haven't received an eastern education (plus maybe U of Chicago or Stanford), the cultural elite have no problem painting you as Gomer Pyle.  Even citizens who are closer in IQ to Gomer than Einstein accept the notion that somebody who graduates from the University of Idaho with good grades is dumber than a plagarizing foot-in-mouth opponent who went to Yale. Having gotten an Ivy League "education" myself, I can tell you that I'd much rather have my non-Republican dad be POTUS, with his HS diploma, than 99% of my former fellow students.

It's a shame that money buys influence, trumping well-grounded sense in our media-fed culture.  (And it's a real shame that so many liberals have enough money to be influential.)  If I had one wish, it would be...  Well, OK, if I had 50 wishes, one of them would be to dispel the rumor in these United States that an "Ivy League" diploma is better than any other one when it comes to leadership, sense, and accountability.

134 That said, if David Brooks can be so easily gulled and his supposed intellectual and cultural inferiors on the grassroots side cannot be, what purpose does he serve, exactly?

Um, he sounds purty, using all them big wurds n stuf.  Which makes him smarter than us and like that kinda thing.

Because sure we all saw through Obama, and understand economics, and realize his dream of "more healthcare coverage, at a lower price" is just in violation of simple economic market practices... but he sounds purty.

And that is what counts with today's intelligentsia; oddly the only intelligence worth noting is vocabulary.  If you know all the words, you're smart.  If all you know is math, logic, common sense, economics, and history; you're obviously to be lumped in with those other bumpkins and Nascar folk.

So we'll use all the prety words to try this smashing new idea we've just heard of called Socialism; it makes perfect sense to us and looks like a brilliant economic model... why hasn't anyone tried this before?  And why are these Conservatives throwing rocks at me and calling me names?  We'l they're just rude and foolish not to embrace my new Socialism idea... how dare they.

So, to answer your question:
His purpose is to sound pretty... or if I were to be coarse, all he's got going for him is a pretty mouth... and we all know how far that'll get ya.

135

He idolozes a guy who got himself killed by getting into a duel, and then taking the high road by not shooting at his opponent.

All right, quit mocking poor John McCain.

136 The more I hear from these self-appointed elite thinkers of both political persuasions, the more I'm convinced that the true battle line of human civilization is drawn between collectivist centralizers and liberty loving individualists. May our elite betters burn in the fires of the grassroots.

137 No, Brooks, you are the RuPaul of the conservative movement.

138 Posted by: Kensington at March 03, 2009 02:42 PM (90mpl)
Steyn never fell for Obama's bullshit, not once.  He didn't vote for him, didn't advocate on his behalf, and never fell for the Hopenchange.  Lots of conservative pundits to excoriate, but not Steyn.

Very cleverly worded.  His enthusiasm for McCain\Palin and due diligence on Obama were insufficiently robust.  He is not a conservative either.  He did what many neo-cons did:  publicly support McCain\Palin with limited enthusiasm while standing by and letting the Obama steam roller build momentum.  There is so much dirt on Obama that these guys aren't talking about that it amounts to implicit collusion.

Seriously, the fucker didn't even spend 5 minutes reading the Marxist policy and Marxist website of a Marxist poised to take over his country.  Fuck him, he's useless.

139

Intelligent is knowing that the aqueous precipitation bemoistening your cranium is rain.

Smart is knowing to get out of it.

140 Mark Levin is calling out the elitist weenies by name today, especially Douhat, Frum, Brooks, and Derbyshire.

I don't have an Ivy League degree, in fact I didn't even finish college. Somehow I saw through Obama from the very beginning what the Very Intelligent Brooks just is beginning to see. Where is my 6 figure columnist job?

Peggy Noonan, in between deciding whether to swallow or look for a kleenex is enraptured due to his talent in reading lines off a teleprompter. Noonan is a speechwriter by trade, so it would come naturally that she would judge someone not by results but how they looked reading a speech on tv.

Kathleen Parker simply has jungle fever, and she'll never go back.

Once these whores are kicked to the curb after they're no longer needed, rest assured like Brooks that their continued relevance and income relies on them somehow convincing us that they were with Le Resistance all along, not the first collaborators.

141 Thou call'st me dog before thou had'st a cause, But since I am a dog, beware my fangs.

142 Posted by: Authentic Conservative at March 03, 2009 06:12 PM

Dude, I didn't support McCain, either. I think the DOW would be, like, 2000 points higher if he were President, and the spending bill probably would have been half as big, but we'd be facing just as many bailouts and we'd probably already have amnesty (instead of threats to close down Gitmo). The overall economy would still be collapsing because the fundamentals are weak. O! is just getting us there faster.

McCain was David Brooks. He's an O! fanboy. So, why blame someone for not liking the knock off better than the original?

143

Seriously, the fucker didn't even spend 5 minutes reading the Marxist policy and Marxist website of a Marxist poised to take over his country.  Fuck him, he's useless.

I don't know if this is a parody or serious.

You have no ideal what your talking about.

As for not 'robustly enough' getting behind McCain - fuck McCain.

McCain is useless. Who the fuck COULD get robustly behind him? He lost fucking Indiana.

144 Hey, Ace, here's the problem. The Republican split never gets resolved because it never happens. Both sides talk and talk and never fight it out. This drama will continue until one side or another throws the other out of the party.

The Republicans must be either firmly set as the Northeastern moderate squish party or firmly set as the national home for conservatives. Trying to run it as both is fucking failing. The back-east Rockefeller Republicans who scoffed at Reagan in '76 are still running things, and they now scoff at Palin or Jindal.

The biggest problem is going to be money. Until we the hardcore conservatives exercise the option to defund the party (which will be hard because a lot of us aren't wealthy), it won't listen to us.

145 Authentic Conservative @ 138

Point taken.  However, I can't get too hot and bothered about someone who couldn't get excited about McCain.  He was truly the lesser of two evils.  My problem with dirt bags like Brooks and the supposed conservative "intelligentsia" was that they could not rouse themselves to offer a CONSERVATIVE critique of Obama.  There was plenty of meat out there.  People on the internet were doing a yeoman's work reporting the truth about him.  These "elites" are supposed to be plugged in and we're supposed to believe that they were snowed?  Yeah, that's pretty thin

146

Hahahaha

Yeah, Obama really, really was going to be bipartisan and down-the-middle on economics issues, with 90% of his campaign money coming from far left motherfuckers.

Oh my Christ this guy is reeeeeTARDED

Posted by: TMF at March 03, 2009 03:25 PM (waaUg)

Hey, you are ignoring the 10% that came from the Saudis.

147 I continue to think this is destructive. Perhaps we need some catharsis and bloodletting, but at some point we have to stop focusing on what divides the conservative movement and start focusing on dividing the liberals from the Reagan Democrats.

Ace, between the Limbaugh/Steele threads and the comments to this post (which I haven't read), everyone and their dog has given this what-for, but we need to have this fight.  I'd prefer it be in the 2012 primaries than now, just because of the successful template the Dems had in the '08 primaries.  The left/netroots beat the center/DLC/Clinton faction, and while the PUMAs promised they'd never fall in line, enough of them did to draw a straight line from there to Election Day.

However, there may not be enough left of the party by then to have that fight then, so now it must be.  And like most entities who have internal squabbles between them, provided we realize that we can't win alone, and perhaps make some minor concessions to each other (we promise not to elect Rush Limbaugh RNC chair, they promise not to vote for Obama again), we'll emerge from it stronger and more unified.

Sometimes that clubhouse brawl is exactly what a team needs to get fired up.  So we call a players-only meeting, let out all that cathartic anger at how we're carrying their asses, and come to some realizations.

Yes, if unchecked this may tear us apart.  But last I checked we weren't doing so hot anyway.  And if a party split happens, leaving one left party, one center party and one right party, that's not the worst thing in the world, either.

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149 I'm slow to pipe up here, but the way I see it, this is basically a throw down of all conservative commentators to see what the new pecking order will be.  Bush, like it or not, was the face of the Republican party for 8 years.  Granted, he was unfairly demonized, but now that he's gone, everyone on the right is having a bit of fun poking each other to gauge reactions. 

Seriously, it appears to be an attempt to establish a new pecking order.  Frum, Noonan, et al. who were Bush lackeys are out pushing their own ideas.  Rush is slapping down anyone who challenges his prominence.  And so on and so on. 

Sooner or later it will all settle down and everyone will "know" who the new alpha leader of the GOP will be.

Interesting.  Myself?  I'm line up behind the Rush/Steyn axis of evil.

150

Brooks needs a "high colonic" administered on reality TV. People will

agree they've  never seen such an ASSHOLE and will, hopefully, shun

him in their daily political reading.  Bitch-slapping this girly-man is a waste

of our time.....consider for whom he works.....and whom he betrays.

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Sooner or later it will all settle down and everyone will "know" who the new alpha leader of the GOP will be.

And his name is Entropy.

And his word is Law.

Now bring me sandwiches and juiceboxes and I'll consider spairing your petty lives.

153 "I grow weary of the red-on-somewhat-less-red infighting"

Ex-cuuuuuuuse me, Mr. Holier-than-thou Hobo Killer, but the somewhat-less-red assholes like Brooks, Parker, Frum Noonan, and Buckley started this.  They have repeatedly stuck it in our faces.

Even Jesus only told us we had to turn the other cheek ONCE.  After the second smiting, we are perfectly free to defend ourselves by beating these self-appointed elitists like they were hobos marinated in cheap vodka.

If our fighting back wearies you, try some lesbian bondage porn (it always gives me a pick-me-up).  There's lots of channels on the Interwebs, dude.

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