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| Global Warming Alarmists Wasting No Time Taking Credit for "Predicting" Decade of CoolingLike Windows, every new iteration of global warming theory is backwards-compatible. And like Windows, it's often a little buggy and requiring of emergency patches.The Earth has been cooling for a decade. While it may be true (or not, depending on whose figures one uses) that 1998 was the second-warmest year on record, and that seven or eight of the years since were in the top 10, no year since has been warmer than 1998 and nearly every one has been cooler than the one before it. The trend is decidedly downward. Indeed, the drop in temperatures since late-2007 has been so precipitous --nearly a full degree Celsius-- that almost all of the global warming that has occurred since the late-1970s has disappeared. ... When I wrote last year that this 20-year intermission in upward temperature trends bruised the credibility of global warming scientists and alarmist environmentalists, several of them wrote me to say they had never predicted steadily rising temperatures. No, no, they insisted, all along they had expected periods -- even some long ones -- in which temperatures would retreat before surging ahead again. So the currently cooling fit right in with what they had been predicting all along. This, of course, was revisionist hogwash -- if only because the 2007 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claimed there was no doubt that disastrous manmade warming was already upon us. The IPCC further predicted temperatures this decade would rise 0.3C and by similar amounts every decade through 2100.Read on. Now that the Arctic icepack is nearing record mass, the global warming cultists are claiming they never claimed that declining arctic ice was an important proof of their theory. Comments1
Put all these lefty whackjob kooky global warming numbnuts on a small dingy and send them out to sea
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70o predicted high in Denver. All of our glaciers just melted and I now own prime beachfront property. I absolutely love global warming. Please drive more!
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I cant convince even my sensible friends that GW is bullshit. Its just "common knowledge" now, impossible to reverse Posted by: TMF at March 02, 2009 01:28 PM (waaUg) Posted by: Darling at March 02, 2009 01:31 PM (YoMt3) 7
I cant convince even my sensible friends that GW is bullshit. Its just "common knowledge" now, impossible to reverse Yep. No matter what happens, it's just proof of what they have been predicting. It's like a religion. Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2009 01:32 PM (VW9/y) 8
Okay, in defense of Windows, every piece of software is buggy. Seriously. I work in software (tech writer), and everything has quirks.
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If these Global Warming Alarmists keep insisting upon themselves, they're going to lose their integrity - and their media time slots - as audiences start calling them on their BS. Sure, xNBC will advance the nonsense since General Electric has a tangible interest in running a global warming commercial so it can sell "green energy" hardware, but everyone else will realize they've become the small-hours infomercial channel people fall asleep to.
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And like the new "ribbon" interface in Microsoft Office 2007 this latest iteration is eagerly embraced by college students who primarily point and click in Word or Powerpoint to repackage blatant idiocy. Those who like numbers and analysis use Excel and, for the most part, loathe the ribbon.
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I cant convince even my sensible friends that GW is bullshit. Its just "common knowledge" now, impossible to reverse
Have you given them the hockey stick talk? Namely that we now know that the event that triggered warmism - Mann's hockey stick - was a deliberate fraud? Posted by: 18-1 at March 02, 2009 01:36 PM (odYmd) Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2009 01:36 PM (VW9/y) 14
These idiots should have just stuck with the Ozone Layer alarmism.
Did they ever admit they were wrong about that, or are they convinced that banning freon made it all better? Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 02, 2009 01:39 PM (Xo7U/) 15
Had a similar argument with a global warming nut. He said this is all predicted in the theory and the theory also states we are not cooling enough right now. You can't win. Posted by: robtron12 at March 02, 2009 01:39 PM (gue+Q) Posted by: robtron12 at March 02, 2009 01:40 PM (gue+Q) 17
These idiots should have just stuck with the Ozone Layer alarmism. They gave themselves a big pat on the back for making it all better. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 02, 2009 01:40 PM (5GNS+) 18
Reminds me of the Jehova Witnesses having to continuously revise the Watchtower and the date for their rapture. I think it was supposed to happen in, what, the late 19th century, and they kept pushing up the date? And now they just say it's in the near future...but it's gonna happen. Posted by: Darling at March 02, 2009 01:40 PM (YoMt3) 19
He said
this is all predicted in the theory
Was he able to cite a reference? Let alone one with an actual verifiable mathematical model? Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 02, 2009 01:41 PM (Xo7U/) 20
Had a similar argument with a global warming nut. He said this is all predicted in the theory and the theory also states we are not cooling enough right now. You can't win.
According to what was argued 10 years ago we should all be underwater now, except for Of course, based on other environmentalist theories, we should have ran out of oil/gasoline sometime in the early 80s to create CO2 in the first place. Posted by: 18-1 at March 02, 2009 01:41 PM (odYmd) 21
Have you given them the hockey stick talk? Yep, and ever time I need to buy a new stick - and to clean up the mess. Posted by: Roy at March 02, 2009 01:43 PM (cB77O) 22
If you people understood thermal dynamics you'd understand that there is global warming that is causing the Earth's temperatures to drop. As the areas around the equator warm, the cooler temperatures are pulled down from the arctic and up from the antarctic. Put a cast iron skillet on the stove and heat it up. The skillet gets warm and then hot. As the skillet gets hotter the handle actually begins to cool as the stored energy in the handle migrates toward the warming of the skillet! Go ahead, get the skillet red hot and then stick out your tongue and touch the handle of the skillet. See? Quite cool indeed. Posted by: Dang at March 02, 2009 01:43 PM (xhwOW) 23
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They gave themselves a big pat on the back for making it all better. Yeah, the activists probably take credit for banning CFC's in hair spray. And in 10 years, when the weather is the same it is now, they'll say, "See? See? We saved the planet!" They, with the help of Obama, are going to spend trillions of $$, destroy the oil and coal industries, and then take credit for there being no signs of global warming. Posted by: Darling at March 02, 2009 01:44 PM (YoMt3) 25
Reminds me of the Jehova Witnesses having to continuously revise the Watchtower and the date for their rapture.
Heh! When Oral Roberts said God was going to "call him home" if he didn't fundraise by a certain date, people mock him. When Algore says we only have six years left before the world is destroyed* (see Rush's "Algore Doomsday Clock"), people follow him. Whole world's gone insane. * Obama's proposed cripping taxes on energy to "decrease carbon emissions" will destroy the country, but the planet will still be here. Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 02, 2009 01:44 PM (Xo7U/) 26
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He generically cited the IPCC. I wouldn't doubt he uses a prayer rug when he reads the report. Posted by: robtron12 at March 02, 2009 01:45 PM (gue+Q) 27
"Had a similar argument with a global warming nut. He said this is all predicted in the theory and the theory also states we are not cooling enough right now. You can't win.
Posted by: robtron12 at March 02, 2009 01:39 PM (gue+Q)" It's not a theory, it's a hypothesis. A theory has to have a large degree of verifiable evidence; not a bunch of computer models that the methodology is kept hidden. Posted by: Ann NY at March 02, 2009 01:46 PM (n82VB) 28
(Crippling, even. Champions of Differently-Abled-Americans who wish to take offense with my typo are cordially invited to bite me.)
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@22 Hey! -- Thath bullthit ath-hole!
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"Now that the Arctic icepack is nearing record mass,"
I'd pull back from that statement, unless you've got some other info. Global sea ice area (not mass) is nearing the 1979 to 2000 mean. http://tinyurl.com/2nv9n6 Posted by: Master of None at March 02, 2009 01:48 PM (gyNYk) 31
As the skillet gets hotter the handle actually begins to cool as the stored energy in the handle migrates toward the warming of the skillet! ah yes, the magic skillet theory. Posted by: Darling at March 02, 2009 01:49 PM (YoMt3) 32
These fucking idiots have become a parody of themselves. It would be funny is it wasn’t for the fact that their scam is being used by the communists to bankrupt the U.S. and usher in communism. Posted by: Vic at March 02, 2009 01:53 PM (f6os6) 33
As the areas around the equator warm, the cooler temperatures are pulled down from the arctic and up from the antarctic. Yeah, like magic. Then a hurricane is created and hits landfall and destroys a tree in Virginia Beach. Then they birds that lived in that tree are homeless and wandering and depressed and decide to migrate north to look for new digs. The birds end up flying above the Hudson River and get sucked into a jet's turbine, die, and the plane crashes in the Husdon. No, seriously, doesn't radiation account for anything in thermal dynamics? Doesn't the handle warm a little from the heat radiated from the middle of the skillet? Posted by: Darling at March 02, 2009 01:55 PM (YoMt3) 34
Global Warming....
Yep had to shovel out the Wife's car twice this morning. Shit that global warming stuff s FREEZING! The new mantra is "It causes extremes in general"... uh huh.... Posted by: Melodic Metal at March 02, 2009 02:04 PM (weVyN) Posted by: DelD at March 02, 2009 02:12 PM (eCJ/j) 36
Too bad Obama has stacked his cabinet and his energy and environmental team with nothing but acolytes of the church of global warming.
Posted by: Just A Grunt at March 02, 2009 02:14 PM (zI1iy) 37
Why doesn't any of the "oops, we got that prediction wrong, we have to change x, y, z elements of the theory" happen out in the open? It's almost like there's no falsification left in climate science. Maybe it's a cultural thing, but in economics we always seemed to take the positivist idea seriously. If there was some element of your model at odds with observed facts, that was a problem!
If I had the time, I'd create a graphical timeline of all the climate models and predictions as published, and the results, and see which bore out.
Any climate science people want to take that up? I'd be happy to be proven incorrect on this.
Posted by: DrSteve at March 02, 2009 02:20 PM (/rYqL) 38
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As the areas around the equator warm, the cooler temperatures are pulled down from the arctic and up from the antarctic. Yeah, like magic. Then a hurricane is created and hits landfall and destroys a tree in Virginia Beach. Then they birds that lived in that tree are homeless and wandering and depressed and decide to migrate north to look for new digs. The birds end up flying above the Hudson River and get sucked into a jet's turbine, die, and the plane crashes in the Husdon. No, seriously, doesn't radiation account for anything in thermal dynamics? Doesn't the handle warm a little from the heat radiated from the middle of the skillet? No. It doesn't. This is Goodwin's Law of Thermal Dynamics. As an object increases in temperature the heat from surrounding matter will dissipate heat toward the area of rising temperature - causing the surrounding matter to, in fact, cool. Here's another home experiment. Boil a pot of water on a snowy day. Take the pot of boiling water outside and, while standing by a large pile of snow, pour the boiling water over your head and quickly put your head in the snow. See? The snow you put your head into has melted. This proves Goodwin's Law of Thermal Dynamics. Posted by: Dang at March 02, 2009 02:23 PM (xhwOW) 39
DrSteve---
It's because there's no "science" in "climate science." It's all horseshit fantasy stuff. Really reeks of Malthus and Ehrlich. Posted by: Fresh Air at March 02, 2009 02:25 PM (BkFHY) 40
The most powerful science journals, including Nature, and Science, have bet everything on GW. To be against it is to be like the Pope who forced Galileo to recant. They hate Republicans too, editorializing about the glory of Obama in funding their research , following their advice to kill off the oil companies, and in building ultra fast computers to give jackbooted government agencies the "algorithmic" power of prediction needed to rule the world as they see fit. To them, Bush was a near death experience. The alarmism they create is platinum content for the media. They are not going away in our life time.
Posted by: mytralman at March 02, 2009 02:26 PM (26p91) 41
"Had a similar argument with a global warming nut. He said this is all predicted in the theory and the theory also states we are not cooling enough right now. You can't win.
Posted by: robtron12 at March 02, 2009 01:39 PM (gue+Q)" It's not a theory, it's a hypothesis. A theory has to have a large degree of verifiable evidence; not a bunch of computer models that the methodology is kept hidden. Posted by: Ann NY at March 02, 2009 01:46 PM (n82VB)
It's not even a hypothesis. A hypothesis is a reasoned proposal that explains something observed and can be tested using the scientific method. Global warming cannot be tested, therefore it is a WAG. The fact that the scientists that worship at the altar of the Algore falsified their observations (Mann's hockey stick to name one of many falsehoods) relegates the WAG to a hoax. Posted by: RB at March 02, 2009 02:28 PM (ewXBY) 42
And AL GORE will claim he invented the GHOST DEMATERIALISER and he invented WARP SPEED and HE IS STILL A ANNOYING STUPIDHEAD
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at March 02, 2009 02:28 PM (b2ETh) 43
If I had the time, I'd create a graphical timeline of all the climate models and predictions as published, and the results, and see which bore out. Any climate science people want to take that up? I'd be happy to be proven incorrect on this.
I've seen a few of these over the years. They *all* showed warming continuing, though depending on the model the scope of the rise varied quite a bit. *None* showed cooling for 10 or so years. Well, I bet they do now. My guess is of the cooling period doesn't last 10 years thought we will hear a lot of "warming trend accelerates faster then expected!" Posted by: 18-1 at March 02, 2009 02:28 PM (odYmd) 44
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Global Warming....
Yep had to shovel out the Wife's car twice this morning. Shit that global warming stuff s FREEZING! The new mantra is "It causes extremes in general"... uh huh.... In the Global New World Order, presided over by Dear Leader for Life Obama and his trusty Environmental General, Al Gore, there is no such thing as logic or science. Cooling means warming! War is peace! Slavery is freedom! /George Orwell is a more accurate prophet than Nostradamus. Posted by: shibumi at March 02, 2009 02:35 PM (tZB/c) 45
"It's not even a hypothesis. A hypothesis is a reasoned proposal that explains something observed and can be tested using the scientific method."
Okay, so I was being generous. Posted by: Ann NY at March 02, 2009 02:44 PM (n82VB) 46
It's not even a hypothesis. A hypothesis is a reasoned proposal that explains something observed and can be tested using the scientific method. Global warming cannot be tested, therefore it is a WAG. The fact that the scientists that worship at the altar of the Algore falsified their observations (Mann's hockey stick to name one of many falsehoods) relegates the WAG to a hoax. Ya’ll are all being overly generous. They haven’t even come up with a verifiable OBSERVATION yet. Posted by: Vic at March 02, 2009 03:00 PM (f6os6) 47
BTW, I got a 3.99 average in Heat Transfer, Thermo, and Fluid Flow so I know more than those morons.
Posted by: Vic at March 02, 2009 03:01 PM (f6os6) 48
My freezer is undergoing global warming, everything in it is frozen solid. Can I get a government grant with lots of moolah schmoolah to study this mysterious effect?
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at March 02, 2009 03:09 PM (RdRrk) 49
Global Warming is the best theory ever... When it's hot that is proof of global warming and when it's cold well surprise surprise that too is proof of global warming. I'm glad they gave that Nobel prize to Al Gore - he's a lot smarter than Newton or Einstein.
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I got about 10 inches of global warming today and it's fucking March. Send these jagoffs to clear my driveway.
Posted by: JWF at March 02, 2009 03:35 PM (1l37M) 53
Why doesn't any of the "oops, we got that prediction wrong, we have to change x, y, z elements of the theory" happen out in the open? We have a consensus that says we don't have to do it that way. And I have the awards to prove it. Posted by: just a guy named Al at March 02, 2009 03:39 PM (knHvu) 54
Dang at #22, I really hope that was sarc. Really, really, really.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 02, 2009 03:45 PM (B+qrE) 55
When you catch a liar in the act, they obfuscate, deny, change the subject, or attack you. What did you expect, an apology?
Posted by: MarkD at March 02, 2009 03:50 PM (MMy4A) 56
The whole thing was a scam from the get-go to destroy the white man's unfair western capitalism imposed upon the world. Today we have massive hikes in gas taxes and carbon fees and regulations with the express purpose of destrying the oil and coal industries. Posted by: Darling at March 02, 2009 04:13 PM (YoMt3) 57
The trend is decidedly downward. Indeed, the drop in temperatures since late-2007 has been so precipitous --nearly a full degree Celsius-- that almost all of the global warming that has occurred since the late-1970s has disappeared. Careful: unless the latest data is overwhelmingly against the 30-year trend, it will not entirely undo that trend. Go here: http://tinyurl.com/2ngnbt Go to third grid down (Line of Best Fit"). Put an "initial" data point at the grid's left edge, and another "final" point at the right, but not all the way to the edge. Example: at (0,-3) and (1,2) You'll form a trend line. Add a bunch of data points along that line, above and below it, such that you maintain its slope. That's the equivalent of measurements taken to yield the upward trend in warming. Now, add points to the right of your "final" point, but below it. See how many you have to add, and how low the values, before you can entirely undo the trend line and make it flat, or decline. Get the picture? The upward trend (slope of the line) may be declining, but it certainly hasn't disappeared just because we've had a few relatively cold years. (for the record, I think AGW is a crock of warm shite.)
Posted by: effinayright at March 02, 2009 04:16 PM (Odl8J) 58
Well, I don't know nuttin' about thermal dynamics, ice mass at the poles or solar cycles, but I do know this: I have lived in Cleveland OH for 25 years. Winters are cold, dark and long, with intermittent blizzards to spice things up a bit. Summers are short and moderate with pool and boating season lasting a scant 3 months. This pattern has not changed in 25 years. Global warming is BS, through and through.
Posted by: FreezingInCleveland at March 02, 2009 04:26 PM (DaNDN) 59
Keep the pressure on.
Now that they admit the cooling since '98, every weather pattern they attributed to "warming" since then (and they are legion) are called into question. Call them on it. Have them explain on the record the past decade of hurricanes, droughts and all other localized weather that they had labeled products of a warming globe. Posted by: krakatoa at March 02, 2009 04:46 PM (mhdbo) 60
But...but....but....Al says we're all gonna die if we don't follow his rules. Yeah, Al doesn't follow his own 'rules', but that's just 'cause Al's a, you know, an "alpha male". Told us so himself once. The "elite" are "different" from the rest of us. They make the rules, we follow them. I mean, well, if ya can't trust the guy that invented the internet, who can you trust?
Posted by: GarandFan at March 02, 2009 05:26 PM (237hA) 61
The very first power plant that needs to be shutdown for sequestration retrofitting should be the Capitol Power Plant in Washington DC. Hell, even better, let's see them put in a smart grid with 80-90% "wind and solar clean, green energy!!11!1!!"
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It was 65 degrees in the house this morning when I woke up. This is in Palm Beach fucking County -- SOUTH FLORIDA. The "sunshine state".
I'm in the middle of replacing the whole 20 year old AC/Heater unit and all there is up in the attic where the old air handler and heater used to be is an empty hole, its going to be another cold night tonight. This is the longest and coldest winter I've seen since I've been here. This (relative) cold and wind is going on 4 months now. Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2009 11:21 AM (Ygf78) 65
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Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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