1 Who gets this?  everyone?  My friends haven't gotten any of these freebees.  My friends also haven't gotten any of the tax credits either.  My friends just pay and pay.

2 Idiot, that is $65.00 if you have a job..She WILL get a free house, etc.......

3 Wow, with that kind of cash, an entrepeneur can 'hire' a corporate mascot--maybe even two, if you get 'em at the shelter.

As for creating new jobs, well, that's what the unicorn is for...right?!

4 OK, so a cut in the percentage of withholding.  That just means people's tax refunds at the end of the year are smaller, and some people will wind up owing instead of getting a refund.  This is only a "tax cut" if you're fucking retarded...which apparently the people who voted for this shit are.

5 I'm sure the CO2 tax will take that tax cut away.  I'll be net negative for my smokes, booze, ammo tax and beef fart tax that is coming.

6

95% of the people get this $13 dollar a week tax cut, even if they pay no taxes. The 30% who pay no taxes will get even more.

 

But, the deadbeats who borrowed more money than they could pay back will get tens of thousands.

 

But lets not quibble about a tiny bit of pork, right Chuckie Cheesedick.

 

Hey has everyone seen that asshole that they think killed Sandra Levy. He is another fucking illegal alien who sneaked in and was granted amnesty under a Bush temporary program.  He is currently in jail for burglary and assaulting two other women.

 

Tell me again why we should offer even more amnesty.

7 This is part of his health plan. Everyone will use the money for their new gym memberships and work hard, get pumped, and go cut and ripped into the grave at 90.

8 Actually it is going to be a net negative for me.  Twelve pack of Beck's beer + sales tax....probably cost around $14.00.  So I'll be negative  a buck.

9 Americans who are stuck on stupid.

10 I received my unicorn recently, but I'm kind of suspicious because it bears a striking resemblance to a feral cat with a used toilet paper tube taped to its head.

11

Wow $65, well first I'm sending flowers to First Cat Socks' Memorial Service.

Does anyone know where and when that is? Is President Obama going to send the VP as his representative? Is Hillary cutting short her Asian trip?

Anyone know what kind of flowers Socks liked? Will there be "Commemorative Plates"?

12 A new twist on Ronald Reagan's campaign slogan
"Are you better off than you were two months ago?"

13 There is video of the guilded Sasquatch criticizing the Bush Tax cuts..

saying something like "$60 extra a month?  what will that get you?"

14 This bald, glaring, blindingly obvious surplus of stupidity in the Nation Below Canada could not have accumulated overnight. Not even nominal Democrats can become this stupid in a matter of weeks.

What has happened is like the unveiling of a statue, pulling off the drapes from a work in progress for years. The kind of people who think $65 is a real tax cut... that a reduction in withholding is a tax cut at all... are people who have honed the keen edge of their stupidity for years.

The ascension of Waffles to Fascist Overlord assisted by the cheerleading sycophancy of the MSM has merely revealed the rot that existed in the national edifice. It's no longer possible to pretend... half of our fellow citizens are literal, smooth-brained, infantile, suckling morons.

15 I'm gonna buy me one of them mansions in Rancho Santa Fe.

16 Ahhh Man!

I wish I still paid taxes so that I can get that rockin 13 bucks!

K

17

"damn sockpuppet"

Always wanted to say that.....in honor of Socks, may he/she RIP.

18 what a fuckin joke.

19

Wow, $65 a month!  If I save up for six months, it will enable me to call in a second rate hooker and buy at least a few lines of blow.  Thanks Bambi!

 

20 First Cat Socks' Memorial Service

Slightly OT what ever happened to the new first dog?

21

To the comment above...

Is this a cut in the tax rate or a cut in tax witholding which, as you point out, wouldn't really be a 'cut' in anything at all?

Even for the working poor this only represents, about 30 cent per hour raise so it's not going to do a hell of a lot to help them either. Although, I do remember times when, about twenty years ago, an extra few dollars each week would have seemed like a God-send.

Maybe it's just me, but this seems like the worst type of condescension.

22 The $65 covers a fraction of the 6 unpaid holidays a quarter that my company has gone to because this idiot got elected and banks are still not doing the business credit thing....thanks BO, thanks a lot.

23 Is that a reduction of what you owe a month (at end of year you will owe $65x12 less) or just what you give?  Some give a lot more so they can have a refund at the end of the year.  I am very confused over all of these word games.  Can someone please explain? 

24 As the magistrate said to Bertie Wooster, "Mind you don't spend it all on drink!"

25

Being the junior Senator from Illinois, I have to send my "tax cut" to Rod, but you all can send yours to the Roland Burris Defense Fund.

I think it's tax deductible but, check with my good friend Tim Geithner about that.

26 @23: Sure, I'll give it a try.

1. You're fucked.

2. When in doubt, re-read 1, above.

There, did that clear things up for you?

27 95% of the people get this $13 dollar a week tax cut, even if they pay no taxes. The 30% who pay no taxes will get even more.


That's the best part of the plan. Thank you lord Obama. Imperial Majesty of the Socialist Welfare State.

28 a feral cat with a used toilet paper tube taped to its head.

I don't feel so bad now. Mine was a jackass with a cotton-candy cone glued between the eyes. And what it produced could not be mistaken for Skittles, despite the quantity.

29 Talk about unstimilating.  13 Obama bucks a week isn't enough to even cover a measly Starbucks habit. 

30 Well, at current Walmart ammo prices .
1. two hundred rds. .45 acp.
2. one hundred rds. of cheap .223.
3. forty rds. quality 30-06.
4.2,ooo rds. federal .22 rimfire.
5. a significant amount of 12 gauge shells.

31
Well, it'll cover my increased alcohol consumption resulting from the current administration's policies, so there's that. Consider it depression offset credits.

32 @28: mine was a Bawney Fwank doll with a dildo sticking out of it's ass.

I feel cheated.

33 Turns out that Obamabot was right, she won't have to pay her mortgage now that Dear Leader is in the White House, we have to pay her mortgage.

34  Is that a reduction of what you owe a month (at end of year you will owe $65x12 less) or just what you give?

Tax-related summary can be found at:  http://tinyurl.com/ctouhc

I think what they're talking about is mostly this provision.

Making Work Pay Credit: New credit; 6.2% of earned income, up to a maximum credit of $400 per earner ($800 for a couple who both have earned income over $6,450).

Since you'll end up owing less in taxes, withholding will be adjusted to match.  The monthly withholding reduction is artificially high for 2009, since this family's "savings" this year would be $65x9.  Next year it would be more like $48x12.

Of course, work doesn't pay for everyone:

Credit phases out at rate of 2% of income over $75,000 ($150,000 for joint filers). Therefore individuals with income over $95,000 and couples with income over $190,000 would not receive any portion of the credit.

35 Heh, my sock puppet was still enjoying being placated by the SoS.

36 This seems appropriate to repost at this point:  The Unicorn Of Hope And Change.

Based on a suggestion from hutch1200.

37 Well, that should make his idiot constituents feel good . . . they sold their souls to him for $65.

38

How simply wonderful that our government is going to allow us to keep some of our own HARD EARNED MONEY.  The Lefty Whack Jobs will frame it like this...."we are going to give you an extra $65.00 bucks a month".  You see, they truly believe they earned this money, and it belongs to them.  Shit birds, all of them.  Digging their filthy paws into our wallets in the middle of the night.  Keep working you dumb asses, we need your loot. 

39 Sixty-five dollars.

Is that enough to buy a ticket to a Tea Party?

40 #20 Buddy the dog was killed by a car soon after the Clinton's moved to NY if I remeber correctly....

41 I will march into HR on monday and demand the Govt continue to withhold this amount as an interest free loan.

42 I can't wait to see how many middle-class folks are appointed to Joe Biden's middle-class task force. I predict approximately ............NONE! Heh.

43 I used to laugh when I'd watch that clip of Peggy Joseph.  Well, I'm not laughing any more. 

Peggy was probably right.  She probably already has a good chunk of her mortgage covered and it has only been a month.

44 I just feel more and more stupid.  My house goes down 30%, that is if anyone wanted to buy it, and I still keep paying my mortgage.  I get paid and they take taxes out and then anything left, a rareity, goes into savings and then when I file my taxes they tax my savings again.  To compound things I have a jumbo mortgage which is really not that jumbo at all.  Who knew?!  I was supposed to be funneling my pretax dollars offshore to a super sekret account?  Who knew?!  I was supposed to be refinancing my house to buy a big screen tv and a brand new mercedes and vacations to europe?  Who knew?!  I was supposed to be maxing out my credit cards and buying anything and everything and not worrying about paying them off or the interest rate???  Who knew?!  Who knew that I was supposed to cultivate the right kind of political relationships and party affiliations to make sure I was one of the "special cases"?   Who knew?!

45 GeorgeO, you saved it. Maybe I'll steal a donkey and E-Bay the bastard! For $65/mo, you too can own an Authentic, Obama promised, Unicorn..... .

46 How about a tax break for a year?  With no takebacks later (because you know they'd do that too - "oops, now you owe us more taxes and we'll penalize you for that year off.  What?  We gave you a year off?  I don't remember that.  Joe?  You remember that?"). 

That would be a lot more helpful than an extra $65 per month.

47 For those who have received their unicorns, bear in mind that the Obama campaign has listed the value of each unicorn at $45,625 (appx. 50 lbs of skittles per day worth $2.50/lb.) on the 1099 forms it has filed with the IRS.  These winnings are taxed as income and must be reported on Line 21 (Other Income) of your Form 1040.

Those who have tried to take advantage of charitable tax deductions have found the process of donating their unicorns fraught with difficulty.  Many equine non-profits, such as hippotherapy centers or equestrian Special Olympics or Paralympics have been reluctant to accept them.  The United Hippotherapy Association has issued a statement declaring unicorns to be "tempermentally unsuited for theraputic activities" and industry insurers are reluctant to issue policies.  Even those non-profits willing to accept unicorns rather than cars, boats, etc. do not want to incur any expense or responsibility for the item before it is converted to cash.

48 I voted for a unicorn and all I got was a sasquatch wearing sofa covers.

At least they weren't the transparent plastic ones.

49 Well Gordon Brown is coming on March 3rd to Washington to talk to the prez. (fox news)

50 Gordo and Barry, Jerking each other of for the cameras?.

51

"So when Geithner talks about harnessing the power of private capital to "start" a market for Big Shitpile – by coaxing hedge funds and other bottom feeders into offering bids that banks teetering on the edge of insolvency just might be willing to accept – he’s not fooling himself, although he may be trying to fool us. I think he knows how implausible it is, just as Milo actually understood the truth about his cotton."Billmon"  http://tinyurl.com/dkk9uw  "If Obama wants to shut down Guantanomo in a year it looks as though this case will be dropped. The Swiss are the only people to appear open to the idea of taking some of those prisoners." http://tinyurl.com/dkk9uw

Well, at least people are discussing.

52 65 bucks won't even buy me a pair of nice earrings!

53 "50 Gordo and Barry, Jerking each other of for the cameras?.

Posted by: hutch1200 at February 21, 2009 02:24 PM (n9FHx)"

The comment that followd was that this comes on the heels of the prz' visit to Canada (the intimation being ole Gordon is jealous or something?) lol

54 Wow, $65/month? After ten months I could by my wife a pair of earrings and Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull for me!

55 $65/month won't come close to covering the power bill for the dope farm in the basement.  I've been looking for a recession proof business, and determined that dope farming was a dandy one.

56 "52 65 bucks won't even buy me a pair of nice earrings!

Posted by: Michelle O at February 21, 2009 02:26 PM (EhZpH)"

"A spokesman for top Italian designer Giovanni Bosco has confirmed that President-Ele made of rhodium and encrusted with diamonds as a thank you gift to his wife Michelle. We expect the future First Lady to receive the ring in time for her husband's January inauguration ceremony. The gift is a thank you for her support throughout the last two years of campaigning.

One of the world's rarest and most precious metals, only about 25 tons of rhodium are mined each year, setting the price at over $7,660 per ounce -- or about ten times the cost of gold. The ring may be uncharacteristically extravagant for Mrs. Obama, but we're sure she'll find a way to wear it with all her usual grace and confidence."   

http://tinyurl.com/6ld8pu

Wasn't this enough already?

57 P/A we here just refer to it as a "cash crop" biz.

58 Hot Air has a vid of Bob Schieffer interviewing an economist who wants to cut taxes.

For some reason I found it compelling.

59 "...a recession proof business, and determined that dope farming was a dandy one."

Can you grow Democrats in the basement?

60

The bags of vomit in D.C. are hell bent on redistribution of wealth. 

Wealth = responsible person who gets up everyday, puts in 8 hrs, pays his/her bills on time, lives within their means...you know...RESPONSIBLE PERSON.

Entitlement Recipient = Lazy, drug addict, irresponsible, stupid decisions, pay for everything on credit, live beyond means, etc. etc.etc......

Having fun yet?

61 I don't know PA.  I'm kind of bearish on the long term outlook for basement dope farming myself.  Unless you live in a Democrat district or near a concentration of heavy hitters in party fundraising, the brown-outs and interruptions to your power supply that are likely to ensue once the "Smart Grid" starts distributing energy more "efficiently" are bound to have a negative impact on crop yields.  I'm not sure that a $65/month subsidy would be enough to make running a generator that often cost effective given the current climate of reduced production/refining not to mention the possible effects of any future cap-and-trade legislation.

62 On one of the Fox News Saturday talkies their was discussion of The Ahnold legalizing mayjane in California as a legitimate way to increase tax revenues. Well, some called it legitimate, others just kinda snorted.

63 Rejoice proletariat! Barry's national health care is coming.

WASHINGTON – Now for the hard part. Even if the national credit card is maxed out and partisanship remains the rule for Washington's political tribes, President Barack Obama and Congress are plunging ahead with a health care overhaul.

This week, Obama will start the dialogue on how to increase coverage, restrain costs and improve quality.

"They don't intend to blink. They intend to plow ahead," said health economist Len Nichols of the nonpartisan New America Foundation. "Health reform is seen as essential to balancing the federal budget and economic recovery in the long run."

Of course it is comrade.

64 @jmflynny

Did they mention just what sort of fines/ prison sentences would have to be imposed to discourage tax evasion by the current participants in this black-market?

65 I make too much to get the extra 65 bucks.  Darn!  Shouldn't have spent those 5 extra years getting my PhD.  It wasn't worth the $65 I'm not getting now.

$65? 

I guess for someone who hasn't really accomplished anything of note that we are aware of (aside from being carried by the media and ignorant/delusional/moonbatty dolts into the US presidency), giving the "typical" family $65 extra/month while shoveling billions to non-stimulative interest groups counts as a great achievement.

I don't make $250,000 (yet).  Where's my tax cut??????

66 Drew - you got your Unicorn?  Fuck, I haven't even got a letter/e-mail/notice that mine is on the way...who's dick to I have to suck to get my unicorn?  Ah, fuck, I'll just use the $65 to buy more Val-U-Rite...unless Obambi has jacked up the price of that...

WE'RE FUCKED!!!

67

Deety, you bury a power cable to your neighbors house while they are on summer vacation. 20 Amps is fine, and most people won't know it's there in the panel. This will not cause a power spike in your bill, if you're being watched. Always grow in the basement, in case thermal imaging is being used. Use sugar water in growth and slow drying process...Also find old garage door opener tracks, with at least one solid panel.  Mount the grow lights to them. Use a tiny motor to make the sun rise and set 3 times a day.

This is what I've heard   

68 Oh, quit your bitchin'. With that sixty-five bucks, you'll get an extra bite of wagyu and arugula every month. Every month. Gratis! What more is there to life, you ungrateful peasants?

69 Maryjane legalization is a pipe dream for tax revenue.

Who is going to grow the stuff commercially?  You think Tobacco has issues, imagine being the lawyer for Big Weed.

It's the same thing I point out for across-the-board legalization.  Pfizer and AstroZymlica aren't going to get into the crack and crystal meth business.  Can you imagine the lawsuits?  Those drugs are always going to be made in Uncle Todd's cousins' trailer park.

70 I used my 65 to buy a nice sized rock and me and my homeboy Barak are gonna do it up! I'll be right over there to his crib.

Here! Wait aminnute. I'm gonna do just a chip right now....

71 Techie, you're talking about that "nazi cold cook" method. That shit sucks. 

72 Are you guys forgetting that this is a DEMOCRAT we're talking about here? Why aren't you all happy with the fact that he hasn't raised taxes, on anyone? What the fuck? Barack Obama could cut Osama bin Laden's throat himself and you'd find something to criticize.

I'll say it again, you fuckers whine and bitch more than any liberal on the planet. What a bunch of crybaby pussies you all are. Go wax your fucking stinking vaginas.

73 $65?? He should have made it $69 so we can at least get our assholes licked while we are sucking the ONES cock.

74 Slightly OT what ever happened to the new first dog?

You didn't really think Obastard was gonna deliver on that promise, did you?   Consider that the "middle class tax cut".   Barry's too busy shredding Nick's asshole to buy a haram animal.

75 WAHHH! My tax cut isn't big enough! WAHH! My candidate lost in the election and Sarah Palin's huge gaping vagina isn't here to save the day! WAH!

Jesus fucking Christ, you faggots. I'm glad this website is here to keep you all in one place. Hopefully someday someone sets that place on fire and thins the herd a little bit.

76 The year is yet young, Nicky.

77 Can you opt out of the national health plan?

78 Nick, Bill Moyers is looking for you

79 Maybe bitching and whining all day on this website will make things better...

Why don't you pussies start being fucking men once in a while and quit crying over every tiny little thing that happens. It would have been pretty fucking nice if you would have demanded this kind of perfection from W. that you are of Obama.

But no, I'm sure you and all the conservative fucks in congress that you all voted for were all just too happy that he got through most of his days without shitting himself. And you sit here and whine and cry at his successor while he makes honest attempts at cleaning up the mess YOU FUCKS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

80 The ap poll says 2/3 of Americans are in favor ot the stimulus bill and that 2/3 of Americans say it won't do anything for them.  How odd.

John Avlon says that the left and the right are attacking the prez so he has to "pander to the middle, the independents, that is the sweet spot"....guy looks like an elvis clone and can't believe anyone talks like that.

81 Liberals have a lot more to be pissed about than you punk fucks do. YOURE the fucking reason I have no retirement and my parents are working at Wal-Mart. YOURE the fucking reason we went to war in Iraq and we have trillions of dollars in deficits already, and YOURE the fucking reason that this country is becoming a shittier and shittier place to live. Your trailer-park dumbfuckery is spreading.

God, I hate white people. Why can't terrorists attack trailer parks, anyway? Oh yeah, because no one would give a fuck.

82 I read that the tax cut shows up in your paycheck starting in June. I retire the last day of May.

Why does Obama hate me?

83 nick's dick has a point.   not sure what it is but.. I think he thinks we all supported W's spending/lack of vetoes, or something. Maybe not, can't quite grasp what the dick actually thinks about us, damned sure he hasn't quite the intellectual grasp of "conservative" yet.  there's still hope.

84

DICK!

85 We got a live one.  Marching orders must have finally been issued over at Kos.

86 Fwank-n-Dodd. All you need to know about FM/FM

87

Anyone know what kind of flowers Socks liked?

Bluebells, daffodils, and tiger lilies are a perennial favorite.

88 Is this tax 'cut' a reduction in the federal income tax rate or a reduction in the amount withheld for the already  bankrupt SS/Medicare system?  I've read that it's the latter and we will pay in the end through reduced SS payments. An old democrat trick, give the fool a nickle today and steal $10 later. But then if you ask a Liberal idiot they will never get old/disabled and the Unicorn will provide they're medical care.

89 That's $65 bucks for the "Average Family".  Which is Two People Working, so that's just under 19 cents an hour.  WooHooo! just stand back and watch the Economy Go White-Hot!  ... Oh, is that Racist?

90 The only way the nut waiting for the 'chosen one' to  pay her bills will get more money is through increased welfare payments. Someone's gotta pay for her big screen LCD TV.

91 Wow $65, well first I'm sending flowers to First Cat Socks' Memorial Service.

Does anyone know where and when that is?

Well you can bet it ain't gonna be held in Chappaqua.

92

about 25 tons of rhodium are mined each year, setting the price at over $7,660 per ounce

Bottom fell out of rhodium in August. It's only about $1300/oz now.

He's a piker.

 

93 52 65 bucks won't even buy me a pair of nice earrings!

Posted by: Michelle O at February 21, 2009 02:26 PM (EhZpH)

--------------------

Yo, Michelle!  Do us all a favor and spend your $65 on brown paper bags.  All Americans will truly appreciate what a kind act this would be.  Plus, it may improve our sex life.

94

My favorite is the tax credit offered to first time home buyers, worth 10% of the cost of your purchase up to $8000.

This is a credit. So if you pay no income taxes, they're gonna just stroke you a check for the whole figure. Free money, easy as pie.

Of course I'm not qualified. I bought a starter home 6 years ago and have been diligently saving to move to a nicer house.

Why can't I participate in this program? Fuck you, that's why Warden. Cowardly racist.

95 So basically, guys like me are footing the bill for first time home buyers. Apparently they deserve a break at our expense. Wheeee! Arbritary rewards and punishment!

96 "To each, according to the wants of a McMansion, Paid for by those according to, and appeased by, a $13/week tax credit?

97 Warden, this is so confuzzling.  I was under the impression taht there is a first time home buyer credit of $7500?  But that you have to pay it back if you have a profit or maybe it is simply added to the back end.  Tehn there is this new one for 8 grand which started out as 15 grand and that one apparently can beused by anyone but i'm not sure if it has to be repaid if you have a profit or if it is tacked on to the back end of your mortgage or if it is taxed as income.  I'm sure nothing is ever "free and clear".  Someone wondered if a first time homebuyer is allowed to have both.

98 Looks like Dick picked a bad day to troll:

"President Obama is putting the finishing touches on an ambitious first budget that seeks to cut the federal deficit in half over the next four years, primarily by raising taxes on business and the wealthy and by slashing spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, administration officials said."


http://tinyurl.com/as5wkt

Hey, but David Axelrod says it's fine, so it's ok for the WaPo.  Nuff Said.

What could possibly be the consequences of raising business taxes in a recession?

99 How is he going to "slash" spending on Afghanistan when he's "surging" troops there?

100 Slash the troops? Literally!

101 I dunno Techie.  Drop them in naked and have them forage for clothing and supplies? 

102 My unicorn looks like a feral pig with a rhino horn.Can t even get close to trim its tusks.How in hell am i going to send it back?

103 You laugh, wait until we're all eating MRE's, brought to us by barrys' rationing trucks.

104 Hey Obama, hate to rain on your parade, but my governor and state DEMOCRATIC legislature just raised my taxes.  Can you shell out some extra money here?  That $65 ain't even gonna cover the tax increase.

105 Buddy the dog was killed by a car soon after the Clinton's moved to NY if I remeber correctly....

Yep.  He knew too much.

106 Chicocano,

You can't.  USPS and UPS will only ship birds and cold blooded animals, a one time, one way exception was made by the Post Office for Obama.  Unicorns are classified as household pets and as such are not accepted by Fedex for transport.

107 But the credit is phased out for higher-income taxpayers, defined as individuals who have a modified adjusted gross income of between $75,000 and $95,000, and married couples filing jointly who make between $150,000 and $190,000. Thus, the administration says many of them will see little or no change in their paychecks.


So now $75,000 salary is consider rich? More class warfare bullshit. Give everyone a fucking tax break including businesses and get the economy moving again. One second thought let the Republicans do it in 2010. Let Barry get his ass voted out of office.

108 Thus, the administration says many of them will see little or no change in their paychecks.

Fuck, I don't make anywhere near $75,000 and I count this as little or no change to my paycheck.

109 The only reason I can see for this bullshit, spread out over the course of a whole year, penny ante $65/mo for the average family, is so the democrats can later claim that they tried "tax cuts" and that they had no stimulative effect whatsoever to counter any future proposals to reduce tax rates.

110

Hmmmmmm,

I don't know if the $7500 credit still applies. That one you had to pay back, so it was sorta stupid. I mean, an interest free loan is nice, but it's not THAT great.

This new credit does NOT have to be repaid. They reduce your taxes dollar for dollar. Or, if you paid less than the amount of the credit in taxes, they write you a check.

Is it taxed as income? I have no idea. I stopped reading after I found out that it, like every other "benefit" in the stimulus, does not apply to my cracka' ass.

111 I think Barry is back on drugs again.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama wants to slash America's ballooning deficit in half by 2013 by cutting spending on the Iraq war, eliminating wasteful public programs and raising taxes on the wealthy, an administration official said on Saturday.

"The deficit this administration inherited was $1.3 trillion or 9.2 percent of GDP. By 2013, the end of the president's first term, the budget cuts the deficit to $533 billion or 3.0 percent of GDP," the official said on condition of anonymity.

"Most of the savings will come from winding down the war in Iraq, increased (tax) revenue from those making more than $250,000 a year, and savings from making government work more efficiently and eliminating programs that do not work," the official said.

He's going to really have to soak this rich for this. Let's see him go after his Hollywood buddies first.

112 65 bucks a month! Sweet, Obsma is da bomb!!!

113

anyone else notice in Jindal's comments that States MUST expand welfare roles in order to get the stimulus money and that it will only last about 3 years and states wil lbear the burden of the cost after that, which they simply can't afford. Notice how nice and timely it is set up that the stimulus money runs out in a presidential election year but not so far in advance that the topic will not be an issue. That leaves the opposition either talking welfare reform or raising taxes to pay for it. Not things to get you re-elected.

The guy has made a career of running for Pres. and he is already planning now on how to get re-elected. I don't believe for a minute the dates and rules of this are any coincidence, its been setup for maximum re-elcetion benefit. Repubs better start planning right now how to handle this issue. Why they aren't talking this up is a mystery. Make it known now, well in advanca

114

# 21 -- "Maybe it's just me, but this seems like the worst type of condescension"

Ummmm, not just you.  When I first him talking about this whopping $500 reduction in witholding (which got cut to $400 by Nancy & Harry), I thought:  "These are the assholes who scream that Bush is out of touch?  They think we are so fucking stupid/hard-up/blind that we can't figure out that $13 bucks a week is an insult?"

Well, I guess they do think that.  And, I guess they were right because more idiots voted for him than for McCain.

115

Seems to me that Obama is blowing his wad pretty quickly. At the rate Obama is going he will have accomplished his goal of destroying this country by the time the first 100 days are up.

How is he going to fill out the rest of the term?

116 Can you opt out of the national health plan?

I'm pretty sure dying will get you out, but you remain on the voting rolls.

117 I am giving my monthly $65.0 to my nonprofit. This way it will at least stay in the U.S. and actually help real Americans.  This will be added to my 10% contribution at the end of the year. So thanks Obama. Its not like it is going to be a major windfall for my family of seven. Maybe it would be better if the Government just kept it.

118 115

By kickin' back on the White House portico and enjoying the fireworks show as the delayed detonation of the various time-bombs seeded throughout the Stimulus Bill and the small print of his various initiatives and executive orders go off in an orchestrated display that will culminate a dazzling grand finale in about 3 to 3.5 years.

I think the press has it wrong when they say that Obama is trying to lower expectations when he keeps on about catasrophy and hard times ahead.  To the contrary, it's just hard for him to keep quiet about the 'surprise party' he and his buddies have been working so hard to set up.

119 has the flat tax been trotted out lately?

120 #116.  Thanks for the belly laugh. 

121 the marketing opportunity here is return on 'investment'.  $13 per week refunded out of how many tens of thousands of dollars per workerbee?

such a deal i have for you.

122 "And you sit here and whine and cry at his successor while he makes honest attempts at cleaning up the mess YOU FUCKS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR."

Sorry, Dickhead, but this time bomb was set by Bill Clinton in 1999 with Fannie Mae. Look it up.

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Didn't Mrs. Obamanation during the campaign lambaste Pres Bush's 600 tax cut (which came in one lump sum) by stating, what good is that tax cut, you couldn't even buy a pair of earings with it?

Now you can't even buy 1/10 of a pair of earings with her husband's tax cuts, and we're up crap's creek along with our children's children because of that porkulus bill. Indeed, Obama will try to offset this spendathon by ripping our defenses to the bone (look for a drastic cut in Iran and Afghanistan as well-we know how democraps love national security defense and our allies).Welcome to unicorn ally. Biden was right, it won't be six months before we're gonna be tested. Gird your loins, Dow going to 3,000 by June? Hope you have some money to buy gold now.

125

Here's the best part - the $65 give-back so elequently bashed in the preceeding comments is the only part of Porkzilla that will have any useful effect (however small that might be). 

The government has been sucking the life out of the economy, and the blood letting is finally catching up with us.  Instead of being content to live off the fat, the State has been eating into the muscle.  The Dems really got it rolling in the 80's - Reagan's policies not only allowed the economy to recover powerfully, but also brought in considerable tax revenue by being willing to take a smaller part of a bigger pie.  Those policies would have been running surpluses by 1986 if the Dems hadn't been flushing our wealth down the social spending toilet.  Then Bush the Elder fell for the Democrat tax increase plan without getting the promised spending cuts, further worsening the situation.  Thankfully Clinton had just enough intelligence to do NOTHING, and let things recover a little during his vile reign.  Alas, then came 9-11, thanks to the Clinton failure to assassinate OBL and Clinton's overall plan to project the image of a weak and decadent America world wide. 

Even so - had the wasteful social spending and other costly jackassery that the government is prone to been slashed back we'd still be in good overall shape.  Bush bears some blame by not fighting back against it - he failed to use his veto properly.  Had the states and the fed been willing to get unreasonable burdens off of the back of US business it would have done great good.  If the government would keep the illegal immigrant problem under control we'd have a much more solid labor market and employment base.  The government creates few, if any, solutions.  It's just multiplies our problems.

126 Where do I go to get my free brick of cheese? Does anyone have the address for the Department of Free Cheese and Skittles?

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Uh, Barry, your math sucks.

$13 a week is an average of $56.30 a month, not $65.

Asshole.

So when you tell me you're going to cut the deficit in half, well....

This is eight inches

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More fun with math

Obama starts the handouts in April. That's 3/4 of the year. At $13 a week it comes to $507 for the year. Last spring $600 in one check did nothing for the economy.

Obama really is an asshole. A lying asshole.

129 "I wonder how this Obamabot is feeling about her $65 a month grant from the Dear Leader."

Reality's gonna be a looooooooooooooooooooooong time catching up with this one, yes.  Not that we're gonna ever hear from her again in the MSM.  Follow up?  Not.

@ 111 "Most of the savings will come from winding down the war in Iraq, increased (tax) revenue from those making more than $250,000 a year, and savings from making government work more efficiently and eliminating programs that do not work," the official said.

1/ The war spending isn't even counted as part of "the deficit," which rightly or wrongly addresses only the normal budget.  

2/ Hiking tax rates on high-income earners/investers is a proven revenue LOSER.

3/ The part where Obie names three or more "programs that do not work" which he's ready to eliminate ... it's strangely missing from my copy of this story.  Just an oversight, no doubt.

4/ Didn't he just last week get done EXPANDING the deficit, by something like TIMES TEN??????????????  Now he's supposedly all Mr Fiscal Responsibility?  Blow me.

130 Prick @ 72 "Why aren't you all happy with the fact that he hasn't raised taxes, on anyone? "

That happy-talk is SO last week, douchebag.  Now he's going to "cut the deficit in half" by raising taxes on actual tax-payers.  Like there was anybody here, including you, who hasn't been expecting this?  Fuckwad.

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Since we have "agreed" ("bipartisanly", I might add) that the demand side drives economic growth, why not have the states reduce sales taxes as a requirement in accepting part of the "stimulus" package?

It takes the tax structure in a fundamentally wrong direction, but I will take it if I can.  Besides I am willing to compromise on my philosophy in order to pick up the economy again.

133 More Fun With Math

The "cut" is $13 per week on average.  That comes to $65 for all those five-week months out there.  However, for the four-week variety, it comes to $52, not $65.

Only February truly fits that bill, though:  the actual "average" month is 4.3 weeks, giving us an average "cut" of $55.90 per month.

It just goes to show that Obama can work magic with numbers - must be something to do with the unicorn Skittles production.  And also that anyone who pays the slightest attention to what the man says is a complete moron.

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