Clinton "Disappoints" on Tibet

Paying her first visit to Asia as the top US diplomat, Clinton said the United States would continue to press China on long-standing US concerns over human rights such as its rule over Tibet.
"But our pressing on those issues can't interfere on the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crisis," Clinton told reporters in Seoul just before leaving for Beijing.

A year ago, when it wasn't their problem to deal with, they were sniping and badgering Bush to stay away from the Olympics. Resolutions were passed. Letters were written.

Sometimes it's like watching a kid get a job, and checking account, and start paying their own bills for a change.

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 08:46 PM

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1 The wimpiness of this administration will cause great harm to this country. Obama promised to bring 'respect' back to the country. They are laughing at us now.

At least with Bush, they feared us. Fear is good. Keeps the nuts away.

Posted by: MagicalPat at February 20, 2009 08:51 PM (O49GA)

2 Obama is making W look like a freakin genius!

Posted by: Hammer at February 20, 2009 08:55 PM (GkYyh)

3 Security crisis? Shit, we have a new crisis every day! What's this one about?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 20, 2009 08:56 PM (Ygf78)

4 Gosh, it's like everything they say is just political crap to be tossed aside when the rubber meets the road.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 08:56 PM (1g+FW)

5 Don't be concerned.

It's just words

Posted by: JayC at February 20, 2009 08:59 PM (sijwh)

6 Got news for you- the kid may have his first job, but YOU are paying his bills.

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2009 08:59 PM (FcR7P)

7 Given that the Chinese beat Tibet protesters on American soil in full view of the police during the Olympics torch relay and nothing happened in consequence, I hardly blame her for folding.

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 20, 2009 09:00 PM (gIga4)

8 Frak all that, where is Gabe and our Battlestar Galactica forum? I needs me fix, yo. Lets see those cylon honeys!

Posted by: MrMCM at February 20, 2009 09:00 PM (taagk)

9 I understand the hypocrisy but I agreed with W's position and now that Obama is following it is fine by me. I don't want to go to war to free fucking Tibet.

Posted by: robtr at February 20, 2009 09:02 PM (uJzOr)

10 Crisis. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at February 20, 2009 09:05 PM (hKtiw)

11 Free fucking Tibet.

Posted by: Corona at February 20, 2009 09:06 PM (pI8vF)

12 robtr,

I agree. But the fact that Obama's supporters truly thought he wouldn't throw Tibet under the bus is just too delicious to ignore. Also when one realizes we're having to turn a blind eye to what China is doing in Tibet so that they will be willing to buy up some of the bad debt Dodd and Frank forced on us it really is worth noticing, loudly.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 09:08 PM (1g+FW)

13 Hold on ........ when did global climate warming change injustice become a crisis ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 20, 2009 09:10 PM (d0YiG)

14 When everything became a crisis...a crisis that can only be solved by Obamaman...part super-hero, part love god, all together bad-ass.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 09:12 PM (1g+FW)

15 "Global climate change crisis?"

Damned straight! It's freaking freezing outside, and I demand something be done to change it!

Honestly, how long does the weather have to blithely continue to ignore all the alarmist computer models before liberals finally move on to their next pet "cause"?

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 20, 2009 09:12 PM (iafWn)

I just get through reading one thread and there are two new ones posted. I can't keep up with this fucking admin. Especially if you figure that for every one thread here, there are at least 10,000 more examples of their incompetence that could be posted.

Posted by: outraged at February 20, 2009 09:13 PM (penCf)

17 I'm not surprised. China has the goods on the Clintons, and they play hardball.

Posted by: toby928 at February 20, 2009 09:14 PM (PD1tk)

18 Reminds me of an episode of MASH. Potter leaves Hawkeye in charge while he's gone. Hawkeye over-reacts when the others won't follow his directions. He complains to Margaret about it, hoping for a sympathetic ear. She responds, "It's hard to be the clown when you're in charge of the circus." Unfortunately, Obama is proving to be a real clown and he is in charge.

Posted by: GarandFan at February 20, 2009 09:14 PM (237hA)

19 The global warming crisis. . .didn't China just make it snow? Problem solved.

Posted by: outraged at February 20, 2009 09:16 PM (penCf)

20 In any event, Tibet, as Tibet, is gone. The Chinese won, not least by immigration.

Posted by: toby928 at February 20, 2009 09:16 PM (PD1tk)

21 I will not have China loaning me money and I won't buy their crap either.

comprende ?

Posted by: john Galt at February 20, 2009 09:17 PM (xEmIS)

22 Another bad week for Barry. Time is whining that Netanyahu as PM will just ruin poor widdle Barry's plans for world peace. Doesn't the world know how historic he is? Why doesn't it act like our fawning media towards him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 20, 2009 09:19 PM (vUfG1)

23 Tibet still lives. Screw China. And Hezbollah. And other earthbound assholes.

Posted by: Corona at February 20, 2009 09:19 PM (pI8vF)

24 What's with throwing the "global climate change crisis" in the mix? Just seemed like a good time? Libs never stop.

CRISIS, CRISIS, CRISIS!!

Posted by: Twinks at February 20, 2009 09:20 PM (KGbOi)

25 Hillary doesn't placate.
Placate - is that slang for oral sex?

8 Frak all that, where is Gabe and our Battlestar Galactica forum? I needs me fix, yo. Lets see those cylon honeys!
Posted by: MrMCM

Roger that, Mr Mid Century Modern - want me some Sharon 'Boomer' Valerii #8 action.
I like those ethnic types. Does that make me a racist?

Posted by: Galen Tyrol at February 20, 2009 09:24 PM (VSBAA)

26 Sometimes it's like watching a kid get a job, and checking account, and start paying their own bills for a change.

Nah. It's more like watching that kid use the car keys and whiskey you just handed them.

Apologies to PJ O'Rourke....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 20, 2009 09:26 PM (MlEgW)

Screw this, I want to know what the President and Lt. Whorf, er I mean the First Lady are doing for "date night"?

The guy has had a tough month and he needs to unwind, he's only human you know, or half human or something.

Posted by: solitary knight at February 20, 2009 09:30 PM (4VlL4)

Another bad week for Barry. Time is whining that Netanyahu as PM will just ruin poor widdle Barry's plans for world peace. Doesn't the world know how historic he is? Why doesn't it act like our fawning media towards him?

Yeah, well, reality's a bitch.

Obama was great at pretending to be president. Now that he's president for realz, the Great Exposing has begun.

Posted by: tsj017 at February 20, 2009 09:37 PM (TV9JE)

29 Hillary doesn't placate.
Placate - is that slang for oral sex?

The Secretary of State very good at placating.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at February 20, 2009 09:40 PM (rTGYp)

30 Fucking climate change.
See if you can adjust the tides while you are at it.

Posted by: the real joe at February 20, 2009 09:45 PM (udP/u)

Hillary doesn't placate.
Placate - is that slang for oral sex?

Yeah but watch the overbite

Posted by: Dick Hertz at February 20, 2009 09:56 PM (uJzOr)

Our new AG is talking about race.

Our new SofS is talking about global warming.

Our new Energy Sec. doesn't have a clue about OPEC.

Our Pres. thinks he's in Iowa, not Ottowa. He also thanks citizens of the wrong country for getting him elected. (He obviously thought he was in Iowa, so he was thanking Iowaans, right..right?

Damn, maybe that last one wasn't a fuck up.

Posted by: outraged at February 20, 2009 09:57 PM (penCf)

33 DC, 2009:
Clown car or clusterfuck?

Posted by: the real joe at February 20, 2009 10:06 PM (udP/u)

34 Sometimes it's like watching a kid get a job, and checking account, and start paying their own bills for a change.

boy you said that right!

Posted by: Alana at February 20, 2009 10:22 PM (JE2zV)

35 Gentleman, it's gonna be a looooooooong 2 years.

Posted by: Techie at February 20, 2009 10:23 PM (906oR)

But our pressing on those issues can't interfere on the global economic crisis

If the title of this post doesn't get changed to "Hillary's Big But" I'm not paying for my subscription this month.

Posted by: MamaAJ at February 20, 2009 10:24 PM (X6Zdh)

37 a year ago we thought we were in alot better shape economically.

Posted by: John ryan at February 20, 2009 10:50 PM (LHCAa)

38 Countdown to all of the lefty anti-war types protesting this fascist regime in 5....4....4....4....4....

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 20, 2009 10:56 PM (vUfG1)

39 I don't know about y'all, but I've been reminiscing about the good ole days.

...Back when Barry O had his own Presidential Campaign Seal, and subsequent Office of the President Elect Seal...

Bwahahahahaha!

Go get'em, Tiger. You rule!

Posted by: Fritz at February 20, 2009 10:58 PM (D/pbz)

40 1 The wimpiness of this administration will cause great harm to this country. Obama promised to bring 'respect' back to the country. They are laughing at us now.

^^Very true - but it will be great fun when we get a conservative with balls in the White House again - and start kicking those people in the balls once more.

Democrats ... LOL. Hillary ... LOL.

It's all a reload of the Matrix ... back to the days of malaise of Jimmah Carter. Only thing is ... Carter knew he was talentless. These people actually think they're hot shit.

Watch and Laugh.

Posted by: HondaV65 at February 20, 2009 11:04 PM (9vlDt)

41 A year ago the left cared about human rights. Now that their guy is in charge, and well, omelets and broken eggs, you know...

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 11:12 PM (1g+FW)

42 Though you have to give Obama this, on Guantanamo, renditions, habeas, Iraq and Tibet he sounds more like George Bush than he does campaign Obama. And he's sending seventeen thousand more troops to Afghanistan without the cooperation of even one of our western allies. That's irony.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 11:16 PM (1g+FW)

43 Hillary looks like an old bridesmaid being given away by herself.
Sorry.

Posted by: NortonPete at February 20, 2009 11:25 PM (fVuwW)

44 She failed to mention the current tranny crisis. Do these people have no compassion?

Posted by: RB at February 20, 2009 11:27 PM (ewXBY)

45 ^{33
DC, 2009:
Clown car or clusterfuck?} ^{Posted by: the real joe}

Clown car on the way to a clusterfuck?

Posted by: mrcaniac at February 20, 2009 11:27 PM (Rbulg)

I'd be cool if Hillary played hardball with the Chinese. We didn't defeat Communist Russia by kissing up to them and telling them how we just can't quit them. The Chinese are an evil, soul-crushing regime. Free people and free markets (I know, I know, we don't have either - bear with me) can overcome anything. Except for the Socialist-fueled Great Depression, our country had significantly worse depressions with more bank failures and higher unemployement and got through them in four years or less. We can adapt, we can recover, we can succeed.

Screw the Chinese and the rights-shredding horse they road in on.

Posted by: Ella at February 20, 2009 11:29 PM (jeP9I)

47 No this is now about Tibet. The Olympics thingy was about Darfur, I think. Shit, can we get a fucking Lib in here to tell us what they are fucking protesting now, or why, or who, or if it is all hunky dorey now.

Posted by: mrcaniac at February 20, 2009 11:30 PM (Rbulg)

48 Has someone seen Skippy's favorite chew-toy? Hurry! We're in crisis mode.

Posted by: braininahat at February 20, 2009 11:32 PM (8M1gG)

49 mrcaniac,

As long as their guy is in the saddle the bodies can be piled to the moon.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 11:38 PM (1g+FW)

Obamaman...part super-hero, part love god, all together bad-ass.

Yeah, however, not actually responsible for getting anything done.

Posted by: Chas at February 20, 2009 11:39 PM (81ekr)

51 Hillary's a Chicom at heart. What do you expect?

Posted by: Chas at February 20, 2009 11:41 PM (81ekr)

52 Getting any thing done? Obama is to cool to actually work, dude.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 20, 2009 11:59 PM (1g+FW)

53 You're right, but these asshats tripping all over themselves is funny to watch, scary as hell to live in.

Posted by: mrcaniac at February 21, 2009 12:02 AM (Rbulg)

54
Can someone please post a video of one of those ass whipped Buddhist monks reaction to this news? Maybe one from Al Gore's favorite fund raising temple. That would be fun.

If ya ain't gonna fight your own fucking battles, don't expect anyone else to either. Fat guy shoulda told ya somethin' like that. Now fuck off.

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I'm not personally acquainted with any American conservative Buddhists. Must be just the way things work out. As much as we like to hold a sense of reverence for Very-Old-World Buddhism, the home-grown variety has mostly had a firm slant to the left. With a lot of heavy thinking and feeling behind it. And politics.

So American Buddhists have a heavy overlap with ideological proponents of hard-line ComChin. Buddhism must be a remarkable discipline indeed, or their heads would have exploded by now.

Can you pop rice? I need a snack for watching SOS Hill's official meeting with the Dalai. Should be double-billed with Pelosi vs. The Pope.

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Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 21, 2009 12:47 AM (MlEgW)

What the fuck is your problem with this?:

...they were sniping and badgering Bush to stay away from the Olympics. Resolutions were passed. Letters were written.

...and, what, not doing so is supposed to be a fucking improvement?

Sometimes it's like watching a kid get a job, and checking account, and start paying their own bills for a change.

Oh, fuck you (and your eminent domain abuse and coerced, late-term abortions), "Dave in Texas". It is not like fucking watching a child get a fucking job. It's like watching Ace of Spades cave in to the PRC's politburo just because y'all don't like Tibet.

Posted by: Chris S. at February 21, 2009 12:49 AM (34aun)

60 I like Tibet. I just wasn't surprised that Obama threw it under the bus with all his other inconvenient promises. I wasn't surprised that he didn't listen to the people he conned into voting for him on the issue either. That's sort of his m.o. Maybe you should take this policy reversal up with him now that he's in the White House. I'm sure you can change his mind, Chris.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 21, 2009 01:07 AM (1g+FW)

61 Chris, I think he's more making the point about how the Dems are now in a position to worry about the consequences of their choices rather than sniping from irrelevancy. And remember, it's the Clintons who consider China to be 'our strategic partner.'

If we go to war with China somewhere down the road, it'll probably be on behalf of our friends in Taiwan. 'Liberating' our debt and Tibet may be side benefits, but not the purpose. And keep in mind that an awful lot of ethnic cleansing would have to be done to free Tibet as a practical matter.

Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2009 01:12 AM (+rq0E)

62 "Sometimes it's like watching a kid get a job"... Literally. China is literally saving Obama's ass right now, by not dumping all their dollar holdings and U.S. Treasury bonds - as the Chinese ought to be doing, due to the way Bernanke and Obama are printing Monopoly-game dollars that will be worthless by the time the Chinese-owned bonds come due.

Posted by: ellersburgwhoresonellis at February 21, 2009 01:55 AM (LM0Wp)

We need the Chinese to keep buying T-Bills if we want to borrow money for the Hopenchange.

Kind of like you don't go lecturing Vinnie about beating people up when you owe him money.

Posted by: kbdabear at February 21, 2009 02:19 AM (7FgWm)

64 ellersburgwhoresonellis,

The time will come when they will...sometimes when thing go bad you have to take your medicine before you can get better. That first Bush and now Obama haven't had the courage to do or say that is going to make things much worse in the long run. And I'm still not certain how to survive the financial storm on the way. bad times.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 21, 2009 02:40 AM (1g+FW)

65 a year ago we thought we were in alot better shape economically.

two years ago, we were.

Posted by: toby928 at February 21, 2009 08:28 AM (PD1tk)

66 DJIA end of session on January 4th 2007, the start of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress: 12,800.18
National unemployment rate for December 2006: 4.5%
2006 Federal Budget Deficit: $247.7 billion
Average Monthly GDP growth for 2006: 3.4%

Posted by: toby928 at February 21, 2009 08:30 AM (PD1tk)

67 The AP and Reuters need to print Rodham-Clinton referencing Hillary since her husband is still mucking around. Regarding the Clintons and human rights, one word.

Waco.

On the "Bush Doctrine"--Hefty, Hefty, Hefty
On the Cluelessly Malleable Obama---Wimpy, Wimpy, Wimpy

Posted by: maverick muse at February 21, 2009 08:36 AM (Z4SL/)

68 Are they REALLY calling her "Rodham-Clinton"?

So it would be President Rodham-Clinton?

I guess that would go down better than another "President Clinton," actually...

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 21, 2009 09:17 AM (iafWn)

a year ago we thought we were in alot better shape economically.

And currently, we're in a lot better shape than most people believe. But Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and Dodd are working overtime to change that. Enjoy your Democrat overlords, Johnny.

Posted by: The Band at February 21, 2009 10:23 AM (H2ikU)

70
Soros is saying the current situation is worse than the depression.

So can we now say that our grandparents who lived through the depression were a bunch of pussies? Fucking malcontents? Jeez, it's not that bad, Gramps. You were going on and on like you had a hard time or something! "Oh, I had to eat the corpse of my Aunt Milly in back of the barn where I was supposed to bury her." Shit, man. Grow up!

Posted by: Dang at February 21, 2009 11:53 AM (xhwOW)

71 "the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crisis..."

i.e. leadership crisis

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at February 21, 2009 12:05 PM (Bmhbf)

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