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| Change! Obama On NAFTA And TradeOnce upon a time Obama described NAFTA as “devastating” and “a big mistake”. After pointing out that was mere words, he has been continuously shifting to a more reasonable position on trade. Yesterday his 'evolution' continued as he faced the facts of life as President and having to deal with your largest trading partner. Needless to say NAFTA is suddenly a lot more palatable.In a joint news conference, Obama said he wants to find a way to keep his campaign pledge to toughen labor and environmental standards -- and told Harper so -- but stressed that nothing should disrupt the free flow of trade between neighbors. "Now is a time where we've got to be very careful about any signals of protectionism," the president said. "Because, as the economy of the world contracts, I think there's going to be a strong impulse on the part of constituencies in all countries to see if we -- they can engage in beggar-thy-neighbor policies." The president's message served as a reminder of last year's private assessment by Canadian officials that then-candidate Obama's frequent criticism of NAFTA was nothing more than campaign speeches aimed at chasing support among Rust Belt union workers. "Much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy," the Canadians concluded in a memo after meeting with Austan Goolsbee, a senior campaign aide and now a member of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers.Why it's almost as if Mr. Hope and Change lied to his whack job friends on the left! The horror. Of course the real horror is that he will make it up to them in some other way but at least on this issue he's not making things worse. Small blessings and all of that I suppose. Below the fold...video of Obama during the primary promising to opt out of NAFTA if he didn't get labor and environmental standards renegotiated. Comments1
"These are my principles. If you don't like them...........I have others."
Posted by: Techie at February 20, 2009 12:20 PM (906oR) 2
Attention union members! Your seat is now waiting for you under the bus! Posted by: EC at February 20, 2009 12:21 PM (mAhn3) 3
i guess that part of me is still hoping that Obama will change into a free-market conservative. oh, and Skittles... Posted by: fretless at February 20, 2009 12:22 PM (4+LTj) 4
I think someone told him that his followers do not care what he says.
Posted by: Mr. Pink at February 20, 2009 12:24 PM (NM1Nu) 5
I can't even blame Obama for going back on this one. What he said about renegotiating NAFTA during the campaign was the most obvious pandering to labor imaginable. Of course he was lying. If someone believed it, then they deserve to be lied to.
Posted by: kefka at February 20, 2009 12:25 PM (OwIMw) 6
Drew, he didn't lie. He "maneuvered politically".
Posted by: FreakyBoy at February 20, 2009 12:25 PM (4s1it) 7
I find his flexibility refreshing and presidential
Posted by: obama's whack job friend on the left at February 20, 2009 12:27 PM (PD1tk) 8
Obama to all those Union members in Ohio he pandered to: "How's my ass taste?"
Posted by: sears poncho at February 20, 2009 12:27 PM (uj/0b) 9
The union idiots will still vote Dem no matter what he does so who cares. He could go on stage at the Apollo and start slitting the throats of retired UAW workers while the clown ran around him honking his horn and they would still send in millions to his campaign.
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Kefka, you got it. And the best part, where is Big Labor going to go? They're going to take it like Tina Turner getting home 20 minutes late.
Posted by: sears poncho at February 20, 2009 12:32 PM (uj/0b) 12
Its never what Barack talks about, but Michelle who tells you what he's really going to do. Really. None of us are uniformed or uninvolved, none of us will ever go back to our old lives, ever again.
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Where are the Union Thugs(tm) when you need them? My union rag came yesterday. It was all about how they can organize a local ice cream stand and their 7 workers. They demand year round pay. It was 11 degrees this morning and won't break 25 degrees. Makes me want frozen yogurt for lunch, heh. When they close down, I'm gonna miss those little hotties, sorry, seasonal workers, on a summer night. Posted by: hutch1200 at February 20, 2009 12:33 PM (sfH9l) 15
uninformed. yes, thats what I said
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Feh. I don't trust this, either. Obama, I think, just spins a circle - never really going anywhere, never picking any one direction and sticking to it. He'll throw NAFTA under the bus next time he's at a labor function, then screw labor next time he's in Canada. This isn't an endorsement or attachment to NAFTA. It's just a matter of what kind of bill gets to his desk first. If Pelosi and Reid send him something reneging on NAFTA (maybe something with "Buy American" restrictions) he'll sign it.
Posted by: Ella at February 20, 2009 12:34 PM (jeP9I) 17
Drew, Rush Limbaugh was talking about the ABC reporter that said Obama was the first president to step down into the office of the presidency since President George Washington. I didn't catch who it was.
Posted by: missg at February 20, 2009 12:36 PM (kT3gg) 18
When will white do what's right?
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Long as he don't try to fuck with the free flow of chronic, snort, and blow coming out of Mexico, I could fucking care less. Posted by: typical white obama voter at February 20, 2009 12:37 PM (PXZI9) 20
"Obama said...", "The President said...", "The White House said..."
What the hell does that mean anymore? Everything he's said or done in the last two weeks has been a reversal of some previous position. Thank goodness he's at least restoring the stock market to the levels we first saw in 1997 under Bill The Good. Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2009 12:38 PM (FcR7P) 21
This just means he'll push that much harder to get Card Check - aka, the You Don't Really Want That Union Goon To Corner You In a Dark Alley, Do You? program - passed. Remember, all this crap has nothing to do with jobs or prosperity. It has everything to do with funneling dollars into the pockets of people who will help elect Democrats: which means not union rank-and-file, but union bosses. Call me a cynical bastard if you like, but if you remember that Obama is just a Chicago precinct captain writ large, it all makes sense. Posted by: Brown Line at February 20, 2009 12:39 PM (VrNoa) 22
Well, he can't very well come out and say that by "toughen labor and environmental standards" he means "f*ck Mexico" - I mean, be serious, on the whole Canada has much tougher environmental and labor standards than the US (and thus lower productivity), but he could not very well come out and say that - it would be keeping brown down.
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Drew, Rush Limbaugh was talking about the ABC reporter that said Obama was the first president to step down into the office of the presidency since President George Washington. I didn't catch who it was.
That would be Jake Tapper. He does good work, although there are some times where he gives Dems the benefit of the doubt. By far, he is the most sensible, non-biased MSM reporter out there. Do you remember Robert Gibbs cursing the day Jake Tapper was born, when he was getting his ass raked with questions about Dem cabinet nominees' disclosure forms? HAHAHA! Posted by: EC at February 20, 2009 12:46 PM (mAhn3) 24
Jake denied he said that to Ace directly, I think.
Posted by: missg at February 20, 2009 12:48 PM (kT3gg) 25
Can I get some more syrup with these waffles?
Saw one of these religious medals fetish objects souvenirs advertised in the paper yesterday - Dear Leader's face in profile with "in god we trust" in big letters right under his puss. Made it look like he got upgraded from mere savior. CONSUMER WATCH / L. A. Times Obama coin: Change you can't quite believe in Franklin Mint is offering this 'authentic' altered half dollar for $9.95. No, make that more like $22. By David Colker January 17, 2009 So you got yourself one of those widely advertised Obama coins from Franklin Mint that's covered in 24-carat gold and depicts the president-elect. With it came a "certificate of authenticity," signed by the 36th director of the U.S. Mint, Jay W. Johnson. The good news: The coin, priced at $9.95, has guaranteed monetary value. The bad: That guaranteed value is only 50 cents. http://tinyurl.com/b92xd9 Posted by: Dorothy Healey at February 20, 2009 12:48 PM (VSBAA) 26
It was Terry Moran. Posted by: missg at February 20, 2009 12:51 PM (kT3gg) 27
Heeeeeeyyyyy...you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes!
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Posted by: missg at February 20, 2009 12:48 PM (kT3gg)
Holy fuck. I just heard it on Limbaugh. The bit he played was from Terry Moran this morning on some internet radio show but it's what I sent around in that email on inauguration day. When Ace gets back and settled in, I'll ask him if we can check the transcripts for what Moran said that day. Just to be clear...I did misidentify the speaker and still feel awful about that (for Ace and Tapper). Posted by: DrewM. at February 20, 2009 12:56 PM (hlYel) 29
What are you talking about? PS...I have a great new slogan: Taxpayers are ATMs Obama, Americans That Matter Posted by: outraged at February 20, 2009 12:59 PM (penCf) 30
Just another promise with an expiration date. Nothing new here. Time to move on. Nothing to see.
Posted by: GarandFan at February 20, 2009 01:01 PM (237hA) 31
Kinda OT but still related: Insta has a new post about the East Valley Tribune editing one of it's stories about an Obama visit to a highschool. Drudge had it linked yesterday too under the link "Uh Oh..." The reporter completely re-wrote the article which Google cache captured, and now the original original story is back at the same link with a disclaimer saying a "technical error" removed it from their webpage. Right and East Asia has always been at war with Eurasia too. Posted by: EC at February 20, 2009 01:02 PM (mAhn3) 32
Give Barry a break. It's not every day that he's in Iowa Canada.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 20, 2009 01:03 PM (1Jaio) 33
hahaha, Guvnah Quinn is calling for the resignation of Senatah Burris. Burris is black, so it's pretty obvious that Pat Quinn is a racist. btw, I'm calling for the resignation of Pat Quinn. Posted by: Darling at February 20, 2009 01:03 PM (DqKLf) 34
BTW that chick at the top of the Drudge page is god damn smoking hot.
Posted by: Mr. Pink at February 20, 2009 01:08 PM (NM1Nu) 35
Sorry but I cannot listen to that voice anymore.
Posted by: baldilocks at February 20, 2009 01:09 PM (SDAu2) 36
BTW that chick at the top of the Drudge page is god damn smoking hot. You mean the weight loss chick? Oh yeah...it's almost NSFW. Posted by: EC at February 20, 2009 01:10 PM (mAhn3) 37
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Posted by: Mr. Pink at February 20, 2009 01:11 PM (NM1Nu) 38
DrewM, Any chance that you can write up something about the Dobson High School kids story changing and changing back in 24 hours? Just another example of media bias that we like to read about here at Moron HQ. Posted by: EC at February 20, 2009 01:14 PM (mAhn3) 39
I'd have felt better if NAFTA had really lived up to its expectations and had truly opened up new markets for our goods instead of merely transferring a gaggle of good paying manufacturing jobs south of the border, down Mexico way. Free trade only works on an even playing field. I'm not a protectionist or a union member, but looking out for America's interests first seems to me a common sense policy. Which explains why it won't happen. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 20, 2009 01:18 PM (ZGhSv) 40
BTW that chick at the top of the Drudge page is god damn smoking hot. You mean the weight loss chick? Oh yeah...it's almost NSFW. All I see is an old lady in an AIG insurance ad?.... Posted by: CanaDave at February 20, 2009 01:18 PM (E6dGa) 41
Oh yeah, the 43 guys before... Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 20, 2009 12:32 PM (B+qrE) This is not to be picky but only that this is a favority trivia / trick question of mine. There were only 42 other guys before Obama. Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2009 01:20 PM (m2CN7) 42
paying manufacturing jobs south of the border, down Mexico
Hey, they have done fair trade, we sent them jobs, they sent us illegals. Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2009 01:20 PM (f6os6) Posted by: krukke1 at February 20, 2009 01:20 PM (GMn5O) 44
It was Terry Moran, Rick Moran's idiot-non-savant sibling whom Rush played today, and Terry said in effect that Obastard had to take a "demotion," when he became Lord Presidential Unicorn.
Because of His Divinity, no doubt. I'm more and more puzzled, every day, at the swift growth of my apprehension, and at the denial spread across the nation. This stock market is headed to 3500... and I am certain most of the 52% (homo douchebagus) have investments in equities. We've lost 2000 points since Unicorn planted his hooves and spoor on the Oval Office carpet. Is the religious lunacy that grips the 52% so powerful that they are happy being bankrupted? The rest of us are not that much of a minority... we are the 48%. At least this group ought to be spitting, snarling mad. Where is our voice? Is the MSM still so powerful that they can ignore us utterly? Or rather, how can anyone take the MSM seriously any longer? Is everyone a bunch of "cowards" about Obastard because Commissar Eric Holder will call us racists? Posted by: George Orwell at February 20, 2009 01:29 PM (AZGON) Posted by: Techie at February 20, 2009 01:32 PM (906oR) 46
It's almost like the fraudulent one has no idea what the fuck he's doing. Oh, wait . . .
Posted by: CB at February 20, 2009 01:35 PM (9Wv2j) 47
I've fallen and I can't get up!
Posted by: Old Lady Dow at February 20, 2009 01:37 PM (m2CN7) 48
It's almost like the fraudulent one has no idea what the fuck he's doing. Oh, wait . . .
Why would a committed socialist want the investor class and capitalism to succeed? He knows what he's doing. Posted by: tachyonshuggy at February 20, 2009 01:45 PM (gljje) Posted by: wiserbud at February 20, 2009 01:47 PM (IHbof) 50
OK, polynikes, I forgot Grover. But in my defense, William Howard Taft should count as at least two people... Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 20, 2009 02:53 PM (B+qrE) 51
Dorothy Healey at February 20, 2009 12:48 PM RE: Obama coins What's great is that Barry isn't going to get his face on one of those shiny dollar coins you see out and about. They release four a year (I think), and the program runs for ten years. If a president isn't dead, he doesn't get on a coin. So we probably won't get one with W. We also, however, won't get one with Barry. BOO HOO! Of course, Congress is probably working on a bill that will give Unicorn Man an exemption. It'll be fun to see them explain why Barry gets one and Clinton and Bush don't (if the latter two are still alive in ten years, of course). Posted by: jaleach at February 20, 2009 03:14 PM (gHrZU) 52
But in my defense, William Howard Taft should count as at least two people... I can't argue with you there. He's my other presidential trivia answer to Who was the only President to serve on the Supreme Court. I guess at that time we could say the SC was made up of 10 justices. Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2009 03:29 PM (m2CN7) 53
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