1 Good for them.   

2 Now if the monkey had a bomb on his head, it'd be really offensive.

3 It's just a fucking monkey!

4

The cartoon wasn't funny, but it wasn't racist.

Don't we have enough real racism left in this country to worry about?

5 bandit

Well, not a monkey technically, but an ape. They are the closest animals get to being human. Close but no cigar. Have a banana.

6 You know who the real racists are? People who look at a drawing of a chimp and immediately think "black guy!"

I wouldn't go with the infinite monkey theorem, though. Implicit is that the monkeys will eventually churn out something good, like Shakespeare. All we got here was feces flung at a page.

Wait - Shakespeare... Shake speare... shake spear?? Shit, I think I just called Obama a spear-chucker.

Anyway, the cartoon wasn't particularly funny, but it sure as shit wasn't about Obama. The chimp in the cartoon doesn't even bear a superficial resemblance to Obama. A skilled artist could draw a chimp that looks like virtually anyone, and that chimp doesn't look a damn thing like the Obamessiah.

Oh, and one more thing... Attorney General Holder? Yeah, I'm talking to you. You know why we can't have any open, candid discussions about race in this country? You know why we're "cowards"? Because there can be no reasonable conversation with anyone who screams "racism!!!!111!!!!eleventy!!!" at this cartoon.

7

They are the closest animals get to being human.

Lots of sheep in Oklahoma have human DNA in them

8

Why is it some people see a monkey cartoon and automatically think of Obama? Really, Masturbatin' Pete got it right - this situation says more about those people crying "racism" than it does about the cartoonist.

This is like when Bush gave that speech in Israel mentioning the dangers of appeasement and Obama instinctively (and wrongly, considering the actual wording of the speech) complained like he was insulted. ("How dare he call me an appeaser?! I don't care if he didn't mention my name! It was obviously a shot at me!")

9 You know, back before anyone had ever heard of Barack Hussein Obama, the left was calling George W. Bush "Chimpy" or "the Chimperator" or "Chimpy 'Smirk Smirk' McHalliburton" or "Chimpsuit McHitlerCorp," and pointing out his resemblance to a monkey. I recall thinking, "okay, that's fine. Juvenile, but fine. I guess in some respects he looks a little like a monkey, no less than any other human. I think it's the ears."

But I also remember thinking "someday we're going to have a black president, and there's a chance that he won't look any less like a chimp than Bush. Can we draw him as a monkey, or call him one?"

So here we are. And yes, I know that the history of racism has involved blacks being called monkeys and apes, so it's a sensitive issue. But a big part of me wants to agree with Holder. He's right. I'm not going to be a coward about this. I'm going to say "so what if someone draws Obama to look like a monkey? The left did it to Bush, and Obama doesn't look any less like a monkey than Bush does."

I'll tell you when this country will really be past racism: when we can call Obama "Chimpy McRezko, the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers" and not be called racists.

10 "However, there are some in the media and in public life who have had differences with The Post in the past - and they see the incident as an opportunity for payback."

Spell it out, then. Name names, NY Post. You have a decent response, but it could be better.

Sharpton remains the disingenuous race hustler and extortionist he's always been. Call him on it and explain what you think his motives are and how they can apply specifically to him. If you don't attack this charlatan and keep him on the defensive, he will continue to smear your paper and try to capitalize on his "victimhood" on behalf of the Black community.

Respond specifically, pointedly, and wholly so that you may marginalize him rather than him marginalizing you. In an expanded opinion piece, expand on his tactics and his history to keep everyone up to date on how he operates. Keep exposing him to teach the public, new and old members alike, just who this man is. He'll get attention no matter what, so make sure some of it is of the bad sort that he disapproves.

11 And I'm sure Obama wasn't mocking Sarah Palin when he talked about "lipstick on a pig" a few days after her electrifying debut at the GOP convention...right?

12 Good post, Masturbatin' Pete.  Give your arm some rest, you go get yourself a dutch rutter.

13 You know who the real racists are? People who look at a drawing of a chimp and immediately think "black guy!"

I still don't understand the kerfluffle.  The porkulus bill was originally sponsored by David Obey, a white guy, and nine co-sponsors, only one of which (Rangel) is black.  How do you get "Obama" out of that?

Now, if the cartoon had said "sign the next bill"...

14 The whole point of the cartoon was that the Porkulus was drawn up by a drug-addled, psychotic chimpanzee who is prone to go berserk. No race was implied, here.

Some say it is mere human vanity that keeps chimpanzees from being classified closer to their nearest relatives---us. In all our colors.

15 And I'm sure Obama wasn't mocking Sarah Palin when he talked about "lipstick on a pig" a few days after her electrifying debut at the GOP convention...right?

I see what you did there.

The "lipstick" line from Palin's address was probably the soundbite of the whole speech. Days later, Obama just so happened to use the "lipstick on a pig" metaphor. Maybe it was accidental, but his audience laughed and cheered a lot more than you'd expect at what should have been a throwaway line.

Anyway, those who see racism here would have a point if the chimp in the cartoon bore any resemblance to Obama, but it doesn't. What are Obama's most obvious physical traits? He's tall and thin - the chimp is short and squat. He's got huge ears that stick way out - the chimp has tiny ears. The chimp doesn't have Obama's hairline. There's just no way that you can look at that drawing and conclude that it was intended to look like Obama.

16 Delonas is one of my favorite political cartoonists...he's very un-PC and usually draws from the right-ish perspective....very "subversive" in this day and age. This one, admittedly, wasn't one of his best, but good for the Post for showing ssome sack.

17 The whole point of the cartoon was that the Porkulus was drawn up by a drug-addled, psychotic chimpanzee who is prone to go berserk.

...which is an excellent description of David Obey, come to think of it.

18 Give your arm some rest, you go get yourself a dutch rutter.

If it's all the same to you, I'd rather have a Sneaky Castro, Cincinnati Bowtie, or Portuguese Breakfast...

19

I'm sure Obama wasn't mocking Sarah Palin when he talked about "lipstick on a pig"

Some people can see racism from a mile a way during a snow storm, but they can see sexism when it slaps them in the face.

20 Oops, that should be "can't see sexism"

21 I think the monkeys have a right to be pissed off.  Even they know that given enough time, NONE of them would ever have come up with a piece of crap like that 'stimulus' package.

22

A big part of the problem is that the current President's base is people who think that the President authors legislation. I guess Congress is there for foriegn policy matters like telling off Israel and the Pope, and the Supreme Court is for figuring out who has souls and who dosn't.

>I still don't understand the kerfluffle.  The porkulus bill was originally sponsored by David Obey, a white guy, and nine co-sponsors, only one of which (Rangel) is black.  How do you get "Obama" out of that?

Because he is ^{THE LEADER}. Get ready for every critisicism of every Democrat policy proposal to be declared objectively an xenophobic rejection of The Exalted Other.

23 GarandFan

I don't know. There is an outside chance that Congress would actually pass actual gibberish.

24 Dave M

"A big part of the problem is that the current President's base is people who think that the President authors legislation."

sad/true/ominous

25
#15 Masturbatin' Pete
As far as I know the chimp wasn't married to a Klingon.

26 How was it that was flinging excrement at people they didn't like?

If it throws shit like a Chimp...

27 You know, the "Mo-toons" pretty much sucked up all this..*spew*.

Sharpton et al. need to find a new agenda, or retire.  They pretty much got what they gonna git. Skittles.

28 This is a terrible response by the Post. Apologizing implies guilt, and they didn't do anything wrong. The cartoon means what the author says it means, and anybody who reads anything in to it is responsible for their own reaction.

Or does this work the other way - if a law-abiding black guy goes into a store and the clerk assumes he's a criminal and calls the police, does the black guy apologize? "I didn't mean for you to think that I'm a crook. Sorry that you do. Hope there's no hard feelings."

29 The cartoon was hilarious; of course, I saw it while I was having a laughing fit after hearing the whole sad tale of idiotic anthropomorphizing of what's generally regarded as an unstable animal.  What a gift it must be to be a political cartoonist...makes me wish Jeff MacNelly were still alive. 

30 Lots of sheep in Oklahoma have human DNA in them

Wait, I'm getting confused. Are we doing Okie jokes or Scottish jokes?

31 Kudos for the NEW YORK POST they have refused to allow that scandal monger jerk faced stupidhead AL SHARPTON i mean its better then that BOONDOCKS crap

32

I was listening to a Phily radio show Grimaldi and Williams (it might be actually called something else, but it's too lame to fact-check), who were doing a whole show about this topic.  Grimaldi is white and conservative and Williams is black and liberal.  Williams (who insists on putting a Dr. in front of his name, though his intellect indicates that the doctorate might have been in Race Relations or Women's studies) is pretty much the token idiotic liberal.  Obama is our savior, criminals who kill cops are people too, the works.  He kept pestering his co-host to "just admit" that the monkey in the cartoon could possibly have racial connotations to it.  And they interviewed several (black) journalists, who also were all up in arms about the dastardly racism in this cartoon. 

I so want to say to black people with this kind of an attitude, “Look, were you alive when blacks were slaves?  What rights DON’T you have in this country today?  Isn’t a black man currently occupying the highest possible office  that anybody can have in this country?  Do you know, that more than half of the people in this country came from others countries, and never ever had slaves, nor had parents who were slave owners?  What they fuck do THEY have to do with racism that went on in a place they weren’t even AT at the time?  And the Jews suffered more persecution, and are still suffering active anti-Semitism, than any other group of people in history.  In fact, during WWII, there was an active extermination of Jews, not just oppression.  More Jews died in Holocaust, than all of the black people who died as slaves COMBINED during the brief history of the US.  But do Jews continue, all these years later, to demand special privileges and reparations from Germans, and pretty much anybody else who did them wrong throughout history?  Do they use the Holocaust as a pulpit from which to rail against any real and perceived injustices?  Or do Jews just move on with their lives and try to live on their own, without any handouts from others?  Why must black people always be victims, and always want special treatment, just because something evil was done to their race years ago?  Things are not the same anymore.  The world moved on.  US has anyway.  They can do anything they want in this country.  They have all the opportunities that everyone else has.  Is there racism out there?  Of course.  Just like there will be people who hate Jews no matter what, there will be people who hate blacks.  And people who hate Asian.  Or Mexicans.  Or people with glasses.  Whatever.  You can’t change people.  Someone will always hate someone else for no good reason. That’s life.  Deal with it.  Jews deal with blatant anti-Semitism every day, and on such scale, that it’s mindboggling.  In fact, many of the countries in the world actively support this anti-Semitism and those countries that don’t, are that vocal in their defense of Jews either.  But do Jews expect special treatment because of that?  Why can’t more black people be like Morgan Freeman, who said, “I don’t see black people and white people.  I see PEOPLE!”

 

33 New Guy..

Don't hold back..

whatever you do..

34 The Jews deal with so much anti-Semitism that many of them have become anti-Semites themselves.....

35 OT- The National Snow and Ice Data Center underestimated the amount of arctic ice by 500000 sq. km, an area bigger than Montana or California.

36 I think the Post was being niggardly with its response.

37 "I so want to say to black people"

Then say it to black people. What's stopping you?

38

I'd say don't back down a bit from calling Spendulus a total piece of shit that teh Dems own lock, stock and barrell.  And poorly written and even more poorly read.

Something has to be done immediately, and we must spend more money than ever before in a single piece of legislation ... and we don't care what's in it but it's good for Democrats.

This is still the best country in the world, but I wish I had a free nation on another planet so that I could climb into the ship to get me there.  We're rapidly becoming Canada or Europe, and we elected a lying, cheating sack of shit as president. 

Oooohhh the camps are not gonna be fun for some of us kiddies.

39 In other MSM-related news, Pinch Sulzberger's fishwrap has had to suspend quarterly dividend payments to stockholders: http://tinyurl.com/bfrzs9

40 What? No Halliburton?

41

“I don’t see black people and white people.  I see PEOPLE!”

I see stupid people.  Stupid people who have nothing better to do than try to stir up some phony bullshit about a stupid cartoon while their Messiah is actually driving the bus off of a cliff.

Stock market dropped to 7500 today?  Are they playing a game of limbo?  How looooooow can it go?

42 Why can't the NY Post let George W. Bush retire in peace?  Why? Why?

43

Are we doing Okie jokes or Scottish jokes?

Either way, there ain't no virgin wool left.

44

"Then say it to black people. What's stopping you?"

hey notropis, then I'd be accused of being racist.  I was merely bitching, and trying to say that I COULD say all that to black people, but that would be like pissing in the wind.  They don't want to hear it and will ignore it anyway.  And I don't mean ALL black people.  Just the ones who always complain about rampant racism.   People like that don't tend to accept logic and common sense.  So, all of the comments in my prior post would be lost on them anyway.

But thank you for being a smug prick about it.  I was under the mistaken impression that the comments section was for people to comment on and post their thoughts on the blogger's entry.

45 Fresh Air @ 36:

That was awesome, man!

46 FYNQ

47 I just want to apologize to everbody for writing that bill.

What the Hell was I thinking?

48

To them, no apology is due.

I wish they had gone on to say, "and to you, Al Sharpton, fuck you."

49

Umm..I'm not sure it's a reference as directly to the infinite monkey theorum as you are, Gabe, but I waited until the second reference.

The cartoon shows cops having shot a chimp, and it was published days after cops in CT shot a chimp that had mangled a lady.  The subtext is that the stimulus bill is so dumb it had to have been written by a chimp, not that this is the chimp that accidentally wrote it while some other ape was coming up with shakespeare.

Also, to all of you fucktards, chimps ain't monkeys, chimps is apes.  Monkeys have tails and little rodent brains.  Apes are us but for a couple rolls of the dice.

50 It was a stupid and unfunny cartoon, but 'racist' only as a demagogue's target of opportunity.

Incidentally, Blacks are the least chimp-like humans, much better adapted to bipedal locomotion than the rest of us.

51 The word m-o-n-k-e-y is hereby banned until Inauguration Day 2013.

52

When are these news papers going to learn!!!  After the debacle of printing pictures of President Bush as a monkey, the name calling.. Bush McChimp... and the days of violent protests, you would think that the news papers would be  alittle more sensitive... how many people took to the streets to protest the indignity of casting our president as a monkey.. the disrespect, the insult... the papers printing story after story deriding the monkey cartoons, the op ed pieces about the insulting pictures... the chimp referenced names...

oh wait.. that didn't happen... no one protested when Bush was compared to a monkey..

never mind.. .my bad...

 

 

see ya

cathy

53 They should just say that the monkey doesn't have big ears and that proves it isn't Obama, or it's only have racist because Obama is only half black.

54

The Infinite Monkey Theorem is an Epic Fail. If that theory held water we would occasionally get something useful out of Congress.

55
has Sharpton called for a protest against woman beater chris brown yet? just asking.

56

Chimpbama?

Hey, it worked the last 8 years!

57 Testing 1,2,3. I am not a spammer!

58 What's with this site??? I am trying to post an anecdote about the intentional obfuscation of the Afrikans word "Kaffir" with the Hebrew word "Kfir' by those who would claim racism.

59 Kaffir translates as nig*er but Kfir means lion cub. Jesse Jackson claimed Israel was racist for naming its jet fighter after a familiar street slang.

60

I hereby declare these movies and TV buddy shows as racist.

Every Which Way But Lose

Bedtime for Bonzo

Ed

BJ and the Bear

Lethal Weapon

61

 It seems many people missed the topical reference to Travis the Chimp, who on Monday (I think) went berserk and mangled some poor lady in Connecticut; his owner stabbed him with her steely knife, but she just couldn't kill the beast, so the police eventually had to shoot him.  So, it was using that current event to comment on politics, making the joke that the deceased chimp wrote the stimulus bill (although in reality Travis was in show business not politics, and was way cleverer than most Congressman). The cartoon makes no sense otherwise; if it were supposed to be Obama, do people really consider him the author of the bill, and even assuming that point, why are the fuzz involved, and, besides, where is the joke then? 

The cartoonist probably should have expressly labelled the dead chimp as Travis, but there's only so much a cartoonist can do; he can't guarantee that everyone will interpret his references correctly or that his cartoon will be viewed only by intelligent people with a sense of humor. 

(Said by someone who thought using the dead chimp motif in a cartoon was itself in bad taste.) 

62 "The Jews deal with so much anti-Semitism that many of them have become anti-Semites themselves....."

Ah, the dreaded Stockholmberg syndrome.

In re: the current sharpton produced tempest in a teapot- what a spud. Dipshit is using yesterday's playbook, and finally someone is telling this jag to get bent. Thanks NY Post.

Anyway - don't seem to recall this jheri curled phony getting all indignant when ted rall was drawing some lovely cartoons of Condi Rice, does anyone else?

 

63
What, nothing about teh ghey?

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65 #50 -- Especially carrying large electronic appliances.

66 First post and all that, but...

#9 " I'll tell you when this country will really be past racism: when we can call Obama "Chimpy McRezko, the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers" and not be called racists."

If that isn't on a bumper sticker, a tee shirt or sent to our Eric Holder and Al Sharpton immediately, it will be a waste of one of this best comments EVER...

67 Why can’t more black people be like Morgan Freeman, who said, “I don’t see black people and white people.  I see PEOPLE!”

Heh.  That intellectual powerhouse, Flava Flav was on Howard Stern a few weeks back (I know, what an incredible meeting  the minds, huh?) and said basically the same thing.  "I don't sees no color, I only sees people."

In his very next sentence, he then said how awesome it was that we finally had a black President.

Hmmmm....

68

Why not sent all chimpanzees, apes, orangutans and monkeys of all descriptions to government-run, re-education camps where they can be taught to act with dignity and not engage in racist, ape-like behavior that mocks African-Americans? Would that solve the problem?

69 This cartoon is making a monkey out of Sharpton.

70

The cartoon sucked.  It was juvenile nonsense that implied that the people who wrote the Spendulus were merely as stupid as a simian.  The Spendulus was written by sinister humans with a Marxist bent, but apparently that concept was too difficult for the cartunist at the New York Post to understand or communicate.

Yup!  Why them Dems is just a bunch o' dumb monkeys!  Hee!  Haw!

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