Hope And Change...US Silent About Defending Israel (And The Truth) At UN "Human Rights" Scam Conference

Remember the American and Israel hatefest known as UN World Conference Against Racism held in Durban in 2001? Even Colin Powell found it so noxious that he was forced to pull the US delegation out in disgust.

Well, like a disease that anti-biotics can treat but not cure, the usual cretins are back for more.

Unfortunately, so is the US. The Obama administration decided to participate in the preparatory meetings supposedly to help improve the final product. Alas, when push is coming to shove, they are acquiescing to evil by not speaking in favor of language about the Holocaust (surprise! Iran objected) or against efforts to single out Israel as a racist state (this was offered by some country called "Palestine" which I've never heard of).

As Anne Bayefsky writes at NRO

What is more visible is that the U.S. has little to gain for itself — or for global human rights — from participating. Under the consensus rule, many important suggestions have gone unadopted. A proposal to condemn human-rights violations based on sexual orientation ran into immediate objections from South Africa, Syria, Algeria, Iran, Botswana, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Morocco, Holy See, Libya, Egypt, and China. Pakistan said no to a provision that sought to make violence against women and children a criminal offence. Iran balked at a call for states to promote gender equality, and at a suggestion to ensure that the concept of multiculturalism is not used to infringe human rights.
U.S. strategy is evidently to announce the United States participated actively in the planning session, made proposals, and was given a warm welcome. Continuing efforts to improve the final result, it will be argued, are therefore warranted. The pace is sufficiently slow that this refrain will be repeated until it is so late in the day that walking out would cause a major diplomatic furor, which will in turn be used to justify attendance at the Conference itself. Obama’s hunger for engagement, in and of itself, is apparently his first priority. Israel is way down on the list and and American first principles are now subject to discussion.

There's much more at the link.

It's going to be a long 4 years.

Posted by: DrewM. at 05:24 PM

Comments

1 "All that is required for evil to triumph in the world is for good men to attend UN Human Rights travesties"

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 19, 2009 05:27 PM (gIga4)

2
we now see playing out the reason the main qualification to be president is to be born here. we are watching a foreigner unmake this country, this clown has no sense of what it is to be an american

Posted by: is my unicorn on back order? at February 19, 2009 05:29 PM (y/aZe)

3 Posted by: is my unicorn on back order? at February 19, 2009 05:29 PM (y/aZe)

Oh good God. Aside from the idiocy of promoting this type of Trutherism, it's also decidedly dumb.

There are millions of leftwing Democrats unquestionably born in the US (like Obama) who would do the same exact thing given the chance.

Remember a guy named Jimmy Carter? He was born in the decidedly American state of Georgia and he would probably be actively supporting this crap as opposed to just sitting there and letting it happen.

There are a lot of reasons to loathe Obama, please don't give the left an easy talking point about crazed conservatives.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 19, 2009 05:36 PM (hlYel)

4 Gee, I wonder what all those Jewish voters that supported Obama have to say about this.

Posted by: SpideyTerry at February 19, 2009 05:41 PM (LKH82)

5 Gee, I wonder what all those Jewish voters that supported Obama have to say about this.

Some of them would be happy if Israel ceased to exist.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2009 05:44 PM (Xgw3v)

6 Sadly, the fundies are more supportive of Israel than American Jewish voters. Maybe it's for the "wrong" reasons. Maybe if I were an Israeli I wouldn't care.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 19, 2009 05:47 PM (1g+FW)

7 They should give up being self-hating Jews for Lent.

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 19, 2009 05:52 PM (gIga4)

8 There's no such thing as "global human rights"...

Would it be too obvious if I were to establish a link between rampant climate change and those dirty carbon emitting Jooos?

Posted by: James Hansen, NASA at February 19, 2009 05:55 PM (D/pbz)

DrewM why is the question of Obama's Amercianism such a bugaboo for you? He had his formative years in another country and had a father and step father who were not American who was at best were neutral on America and at worst were America haters. His mother was anti American. His early year mentors were Anti American. His living relatives are not American. His teenage years were not on mainland America. His college sponsors and friends were non American muslims. You are the one that needs to let it go.

Posted by: polynikes at February 19, 2009 06:01 PM (m2CN7)

10 80% of jews voted for their own annihilation this election...... fucking retards..... it is still safe to say retard still, isnt it?

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 06:08 PM (zG+3k)

Also, just to point out, Obama hasn't been "unquestionably" born in the US. There is good reason (his grandmother's statements, conflicting accounts of his birth hospital, lack of any papers - including college transcripts - that show his birth place and nationality, the fact that he used an Indonesian passport when he was 19 to travel to a country that didn't allow US citizens) to question whether he was born in the US or whether he (through his mother's actions) renounced his citizenship. There is, in fact, less documentation proving he is a native-born American than there is circumstantial evidence that he isn't.

I'm not saying absolutely that he is foregin-born and/or a foreign national, though I think he might be. But the only evidence anyone has offered so far is, "Well, duh, of course he is." Color me unconvinced. In fact, it's that attitude alone that makes me think the other evidences are credible.

Posted by: Ella at February 19, 2009 06:10 PM (jeP9I)

12 Polynikes, the statement was:

"We now see playing out the reason the main qualification to be president is to be born here."

Obama was born here. Obviously that particular qualification doesn't solve the problem.

And I'm guessing that Mark Steyn would be far more pro-American in his actions, were he president, than American -born Barack Obama is, or American-born Jimmy Carter is.

Posted by: notropis at February 19, 2009 06:12 PM (bllfZ)

13 Not all of the pro-Obama Jews are agnostic toward Israel or hostile. Many of my friends have been able to hold strong pro-Obama and strong pro-Israel views simultaneously. But I intend to have some further words with them on the subject. Well, with some of them, anyway, the ones I talk politics with. Some of them have a tacit "shut up" agreement with me.

Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at February 19, 2009 06:13 PM (rfaI6)

14 Starting with Jugears and working down the chain, how many people would have to get hit by a bus before we got a president that would be worth half a shit??

Posted by: FORGER at February 19, 2009 06:13 PM (nVRJS)

15 #9, I'm siding with you on this one. Even assuming he was born on Hawaiian soil, which I have seen no conclusive evidence to support, his upbringing was not that of an American. Therefore he's the perfect figurehead for the America-hating left.

I ask a lot of my Jewish friends why the hell they don't support the armed self-defense of the Jewish race and the State of Israel. I don't get a lot of answers.

Posted by: SGT Dan at February 19, 2009 06:13 PM (wyUSq)

16 This is what "The World" values.

Every time some Leftist goes on about "The World's Opinion", I tell them that most of "The World" is an illiberal cesspool of racial hatreds, tribal warfare, organized crime, and despotic governments, and why should I give a damn what they think?

Posted by: Techie at February 19, 2009 06:15 PM (906oR)

17 #14, too many for one single inspired act of God to get all of them at once.

Posted by: SGT Dan at February 19, 2009 06:15 PM (wyUSq)

18 Posted by: polynikes at February 19, 2009 06:01 PM (m2CN7)

To address a number of your points in one swoop, I don't hold people responsible for the beliefs of their parents. Do you?

Are you saying people who spend their teenage years in Hawaii are suspect Americans? Really?

Again, a lot of leftists have similar mentors in their youth. They are often called college professors.

If you want point out Obama's life is non-traditional, well, have it. I don't think that's exactly an item of contention. The issue is, what does it mean? Again, there are plenty of people who were born in all American neighborhoods with white picket fences and all the rest of the Normal Rockwell kit and yet are virulently anti-American.So where does that get us?

I think it's pretty clear that I have no love for Obama or his politics. What I object to is silly conspiracy theories that say Obama wasn't born in the US, a line of 'thought' promoted and made popular by noted Truther Jerome Corsi (whose latest is that the US government is building detention camps!11!!1!1). Personally, I'd prefer to deal with Obama's shortcomings on the merits without having to be lumped in with Truthers.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 19, 2009 06:16 PM (hlYel)

19 Hey! Lets elect a black, muslim (supporter, at the very least). America-hating, white-hating, Jew-hating, most likely not legally qualified guy to be POTUS, just so we can make black folk happy! I mean, what could go wrong, you racist cowards?

Blacks are ruining this country...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 06:16 PM (ijeOD)

20 Moby clean-up on isle 19.

Posted by: Techie at February 19, 2009 06:17 PM (906oR)

21 "Blacks are ruining this country..."

And comments like that will ruin AoS.

Posted by: notropis at February 19, 2009 06:18 PM (bllfZ)

22 It's going to be a long four years?! Seems like a decade already.

Posted by: Kae Gregory at February 19, 2009 06:18 PM (P9zbv)

23 Pakistan said no to a provision that sought to make violence against women and children a criminal offence.

"Unofficial" Ambassador to the National Organization of Women Chris Brown concurred

Posted by: Frank G at February 19, 2009 06:18 PM (Aaspy)

24 "...and I will bless those who bless you...and curse those who curse you..."

Posted by: Reagan's Ghost at February 19, 2009 06:18 PM (KCK4f)

notropis I take almost everyone's comment here at the AOSHQ to contain a little bit of snark and sarcasm. I'm sure that is what the commentor was doing in this instance. The point is that Obama was never instilled with the American Way that people who are born and raised here are. How they choose to accept it as adults will differ but whether it is to the left or right they have a common thread. Its somewhat esoteric but you know it when you see it. Obama doesn't have that thread. His dissent seems to come from someone who sees America from outside looking in and not the other way around.

Anyway, anyone who dares questions Obama's americanism or place of birth always seems to get DrewM's wrath.

Posted by: polynikes at February 19, 2009 06:21 PM (m2CN7)

26 11

"...the only evidence anyone has offered so far is, "Well, duh, of course he is."

We have a winner! I wonder what the new AG thinks about this...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 06:21 PM (ijeOD)

27 The Jews gave up each other to my gas chambers, too... That they should vote for a muslim-educated Kenyan/Indonesian communist illegal alien is no big surprise. Some things never change.

Posted by: Hitler's Ghost at February 19, 2009 06:23 PM (KCK4f)

28 #15

As a proud Jew, Zionist, and ex-USAF combat pilot, I can tell you, it's hard being in the 20% of American Jewry who are unabashedly conservative.

My entire life, I've been told that the military (US & Israel's, FFS) is evil and liberal institutions like the university, press and unions are the pinnacle of inspired thought and achievement.

I can't seem to get my point across that if taken to its logical conclusion, Bambi's multi-culti appeasement will be the cause of a 2nd Holocaust. If I was young and fit enough to do it, I'd pick up a Galil or Tavor and help the IDF kick the crap out of the death-cultists.

Posted by: mikey at February 19, 2009 06:24 PM (fvlUJ)

29 Barack Hussein Obama hearts World Jewry!

Posted by: R Emmanuel at February 19, 2009 06:26 PM (KCK4f)

30 Sorry notropis.

But hey, the new AG says we're cowards, and he wants to talk. YOU keep on with the PC BS that caused this anti-American idiot to get elected. He was elected because of his race. Period. we were told to vote for him or be labeled as racists. Period.

We did, and SURPRISE! We're still racists? Wake up boy...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 06:27 PM (ijeOD)

Are you saying people who spend their teenage years in Hawaii are suspect Americans?

If you want to change things people say in order to think you are making a legitimate argument you are going to have to do it with someone other than me.

Posted by: polynikes at February 19, 2009 06:30 PM (m2CN7)

32 OT: Kyrgyzstan's Parliament pwnd Bambi about Manas AFB today @ http://tinyurl.com/b9kjrm. Response from Bambi? *crickets*

Posted by: '80sBaby at February 19, 2009 06:31 PM (a1BsN)

33 Hey! Let's get something straight here...Congress demanded documentary, detailed proof of my citizenship, but my esteemed colleague Obama was barely questioned. I am perfectly O.K. with that, so stop harping on Hussein! You zenophobic conservatives are beginning to piss me off!

Posted by: John McCain at February 19, 2009 06:32 PM (KCK4f)

34 psst. Xenophobic starts with an "x".

Posted by: Techie at February 19, 2009 06:33 PM (906oR)

35 Posted by: polynikes at February 19, 2009 06:30 PM (m2CN7)

So what exactly did you mean when you included this in your list of things that bring his "Americanism" into question?

His teenage years were not on mainland America.

Were not his teenage years spent in Hawaii? Isn't Hawaii "not on mainland America"?

Anyway, I'm heading out for the evening but would be happy to pick it up anytime.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 19, 2009 06:34 PM (hlYel)

36 Well, I'm sure Obama'll stand up for us when the Taliban's proxies critcize our racist war in Afghanistan. Or our ongoing oppression of North Korea.

/sarc

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 06:35 PM (BDHFy)

37 Also, wow, I'm so glad we're discussing the matter at hand rather than tilting at 5 month old windmills.

If I wanted that, I'd have gone over to Kos.

Posted by: Techie at February 19, 2009 06:35 PM (906oR)

38 "We did"

Doesn't sound like you did. I know I didn't. Just because there are others who insist on talking in "us and them" language, based on race, doesn't mean they can force me to.

I don't need to accept being lumped together with other whites, whether they be Father Pfleger or David Duke. There's this conservative individualist streak in me, I guess. Sorry to see you've lost yours.

Posted by: notropis at February 19, 2009 06:36 PM (bllfZ)

39 Everyday it just keeps getting worse and worse. I wonder what misfortune will this administration bring in two weeks. I can only think in terms of weeks not years or else I'll start getting panic attacks. Ugh.

Posted by: TiNa48 at February 19, 2009 06:36 PM (WT6xs)

40 And another thing...It is time for real bi-partisan surren- er, cooperation in this dire national crisis, so let's stop whining about Marxism give it up for the greater good of the community.

Posted by: J. McCain at February 19, 2009 06:36 PM (KCK4f)

41 He's spending hundreds of thousands to keep his birth certificate hidden from the people who elected him and who want to know, and ANYONE defends that?? How? Why? You're a "truther" because you have the temerity to demand to see if your CIC (chokes on own vomit) is legit?

Yup, it's all good...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 06:39 PM (ijeOD)

42 Savage is on fire tonight on the Americans are Cowards remark. Nice

Second, via drudge

UN: IRAN HAS ENOUGH URANIUM FOR NUKE BOMB

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 06:44 PM (zG+3k)

43 38

"We" as in Americans, as in the people the new AG just slandered, as in he didn't even bother to separate the idiots who voted for Barry from those of us who didn't.

Go do the pedantic thing with someone else...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 06:44 PM (ijeOD)

44 re:42 *polite, golf clapping noise*

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 19, 2009 06:49 PM (gIga4)

45 42

If that's true, awesome! Lets get this over with already.

After the nuke goes off here (and please don't waste a molecule's worth of energy typing that B Hussein will stop that from happening-in fact, one of the terrorists he releases from Gittmo will probably help deliver it), I wonder how many will start becoming curious as to just why Barack Hussein Obama didn't let anyone see his birth certificate back when...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 06:51 PM (ijeOD)

46 Doesnt that directly contradict what the UN said about 6 months ago....just saying

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 06:52 PM (zG+3k)

47 we're screwed 09 right now

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 06:54 PM (zG+3k)

48 "Mark my words. Within the next, first six months of this administration, if we win, there going to -- we're going to face a major international challenge. Because they're going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They're going to want to test him. And they're going to find out this guy's got steel in his spine.

"Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he’s gonna have to make some really tough - I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he’s gonna need help."

Posted by: Lunchbucket Joe Biden (D-Scranton) at February 19, 2009 06:55 PM (B+HYX)

49 JS, calling someone out for making a stupid, blanket racist statement like "Blacks are ruining this country..." isn't pedantic. Nor is pointing out that you are employing the same "we" and "they" mentality as the people you are claiming are ruining the country.

Now, pedantic might apply to someone who's still hanging onto some concern about the proper birth certificate for Obama, given that, since the electors voted, and since he took the oath (twice), he is the legitimate CIC, however wrong and destructive his policies might be.

And if he's to be stopped, or even slowed, it will only be by focussing on those policies.

And it probably won't be helped by profundities like "Blacks are ruining this country..."

Posted by: notropis at February 19, 2009 06:57 PM (bllfZ)

50 well i do believe, from all reports that Netanyahu will be PM of Israel..... This guy will do the damn thing on Iran, so he says anyway

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 06:58 PM (zG+3k)

51 But if we participate in the smearing of Israel at the UN, the Syrian Nazis will love us!

And isn't that what Hope & Change are all about???

Posted by: Rev. Al Sharpton at February 19, 2009 07:00 PM (iafWn)

52 JS, I think if a nuke of any provenance goes off here, we're going to be worrying about more serious things than O's birth certificate. Except possibly if Congress decides to give him the Blagojevich treatment.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 07:10 PM (BDHFy)

53 Now, pedantic might apply to someone who's still hanging onto some concern about the proper birth certificate for Obama, given that, since the electors voted, and since he took the oath (twice), he is the legitimate CIC, however wrong and destructive his policies might be.

So are you saying that making sure that our CIC is indeed a NBC as required by the Constitution, is something thats not worth persuing, especially realizing the damage this clown is doing? Well, with all the lying this guy is doing, are you gonna give him the ben of the doubt on this issue? Cracker please. I for one applaud those persuing this issue and not letting it die and him get away with such "transparency" Does that mean it's the end all, hell no, when will people learn that you attack on more than on front? I for one wanna know why Ohole is fighting it with everything he's got. This is such a big issue, if he were to show his real BC, not that piece of shit COLB that hawaii allowed foriegners to get, would be the biggest SHUT THE FUCK UP in the history of shut the fuck ups......but yet he is still fighting the cases..... On the electors note, it done matter if the cast their votes for him, if it turns out he's not eligibly, there is no statute of limitation on the constitution.

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 07:11 PM (zG+3k)

54 Methos, I don't lose sleep over the issue of Obama's citizenship... but aren't you even a LITTLE curious about just what the hell is Obama hiding?

Birth Certificates aren't usually concerned top secret.

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 07:13 PM (iafWn)

55 49

My statement was not racist. It is based on crime stats, out of wedlock birth rates, affirmative action, set asides, welfare stats, drugs, etc. Please explain how these things, and more, are not ruining this country.

Notice I did not cite genetics as a reason. I do not believe that blacks are inferior or that whites are superior. That is racism. I do believe that their behavior, and their overt support for said bad behavior (go back a few titles and you'll find that Ace himself made this point) is inferior and is wildly destructive to our nation.

Pedantic applies to someone who is concerned about something that has never been settled? How so? Because you say so, because "well duh, of course he is!"? BS

People like you misuse the term racist. People like you think (correctly so) that a white man who belongs to a white separatist group is a racist, but a black man (Barry) who belongs to a black separatist group is not. That's your problem...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 07:13 PM (ijeOD)

56 edit: considered, I meant

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 07:13 PM (iafWn)

57 One
BIG
Ass
Mistake
America

Posted by: odell roo at February 19, 2009 07:14 PM (hetYy)

58 JS, i disagree, cus, lets face it, we been safe for 7 yrs, if we get hit, after all the neutering Ohole is doing, that chorus will just grow louder. And looking into Oholes past will just gain more traction......looking into his past, that includes his birth orgin...... and college records and will bring to light, why fight something that he says is there and genuine, it makes no sense... Face it, if it turns out that he isnt a NBC, will be the biggest blow to the dems other than a nuke going off here. We already know this dude wasnt vetted, question is, on what scale wasnt he vetted. Are you gonna take the Dems/Obamas word for it, i sure as hell dont, never will....

and on that note, i gotta go wash my balls

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 07:18 PM (zG+3k)

59 One
BIG
Ass
Mistake
America

This would make such an awesome bumper sticker

Posted by: TiNa48 at February 19, 2009 07:21 PM (WT6xs)

60 Birth Certificates aren't usually concerned top secret.

Keyes is going after his Oxy records
Rumor is in the Keyes case, O's attorneys have filed a motion to keep his Occidental records and his BC sealed...... now why would he wanna seal his Oxy records...... I know I for one am curious as hell....

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 07:22 PM (zG+3k)

61 Looks like I picked a bad decade to stop sniffing glue. . .

Posted by: Holdfast at February 19, 2009 07:23 PM (Gzb30)

62 Methos

What I mean is if a guy who is a racist and a muslim sympathizer is POTUS when we are hit, and this shouldn't have happened due to his ineligibility, will any of those who call us truthers start truthing themselves?

Just askin...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 07:24 PM (ijeOD)

63 One
BIG
Ass
Mistake
America

Are we writing off M'chelle? Cuz that would make two

Posted by: Frank G at February 19, 2009 07:32 PM (Aaspy)

64 CoolCzech, I'm curious what he's so obsessed with hiding. My comment was referring to the previous 'Hey, people will care about the BC once a nuke goes off here' post. I don't see as a practical matter what difference it makes though. If he's not a NBC, he should be immediately removed from office, regardless of the circumstances. But who's going to remove him in that event? Shame isn't going to make him leave (see Clinton, Bill). This Congress won't do anything about it. The courts have no power over anyone committed to ignoring them. As much as we've discussed revolution, I feel safe assuming the military wouldn't do it. His supporters and/or the media will make excuses.

Now his immensely popular economic policies might beat his support down to a level where his removal would be feasible, but by that point he'll be neutered anyway. And it's not like Buden is that big of a step up.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 07:34 PM (BDHFy)

Filing to keep college transcripts secret? Failing to provide proof of citizenship? When I last applied for a job, either one would have disqualified me from consideration. If I had tried to hire a reputable lawyer to take it to court, I am sure I would have been told to save my money!

Obama is a joke that I don't get, and didn't want in the first place.

Posted by: sherlock at February 19, 2009 07:39 PM (8V5Ut)

66 "To address a number of your points in one swoop, I don't hold people responsible for the beliefs of their parents. Do you?"

I don't think anyone is holding Obama responsible for the beliefs of his parents, but it has been shown that a kid will hold a parent's view more often than not (politics and religion being the main area of study in this area). Obama has shown through groups he has associated with in college (the ones we know about anyways) and speeches and talks he has given (also only ones we actually know about) that he has not broken away from those views.

Posted by: David at February 19, 2009 07:40 PM (HAdov)

67 Methos, im sure the supreme court would have something to say about that, they are also sworn to uphold the Constitution...and it's gonna be a case that gets the job done. Dont underestimate the power of a people when they feel like they've been had. You'll be seeing a lot of second guessing themselves in the media for sure. I know the independents that voted for him will jump ship, it's only the diehards that will keep sucking his....

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 07:42 PM (zG+3k)

68 JS, I think the BC 'truthers' probably would get a notch on their belts back to average respectability (to the extent that Drew implies your opinion isn't at the moment), but it'll just be piling on at that point.

I forget who it was, but someone once told Saddam that they'd like to kill him. He responded "By the time you get to me, there will be no meat left on the bones."

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 07:42 PM (BDHFy)

69 slizzle, the SC might have something to say about it (I'm not sure I see 5 votes there to remove the first black President from office without massive daily demonstrations to sway their opinion). And if enough of the American people turn on him, I think I'd rather keep him in place for the duration of his term (this isn't all going to happen tomorrow, after all) with a Congress too afraid (of us) to support his agenda, than have Biden doing his Gerald Ford impression.

And when I say 5 SC votes, I of course mean WTF will Kennedy do?

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 07:49 PM (BDHFy)

70 Methos, you'd be suprised how often my friends bring the BC issue up, my friend are minorities and dem leaning O supporter (former O supporters anyway) Asking me if he was really born in Hawaii to which i respond, "the jury is still out on that one" I thought it was resolved back in June until somebody explained to me what a COLB really is. seems mad suspect to me. I mean, if he flew to Pakistan when he was 21, in order to get a passport, dont you have to show a real BC? Why didnt he just produce the one he showed to get that? Unless it wasnt an American Passport. I for one am not giving any elected Official the ben of the doubt, especially a shister like Obama, especially in this day and age of passing a trillion dollars and not even reading the bill.

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 07:55 PM (zG+3k)

71 well, if he's not eligible, he's not eligible, who knows how it would be handled, but i'm sure it wont be good either way. If he's allowed to remain, talk about disenfranchisement on the one side of the isle for Dems nominating a man who they never vetted, lied about doing it, and say, oh well about it. That would be a slap in the face to everyone who holds our freedoms and constitution dear to our hearts. Men and women have died to protect that piece of paper, no just parts of it, but the whole damn thing. Of course you'll have riots if hes outted, but i think it'd be worse if he's allowed to stay in. I know i wouldnt stand for it, my dad and my friends have fought and died. My dad was spat on when he came home from vietnam. And if a party, the same party that spat on him, is allowed to trample on that piece of paper, there will be hell to pay. just sayin

Posted by: slizzle at February 19, 2009 08:01 PM (zG+3k)

72 #28, if you're current in any useable tactical or tactical airlift aircraft, I can think of a medium term second career opportunity...interested?

Posted by: SGT Dan at February 19, 2009 08:06 PM (wyUSq)

73 What are Fundies?

Posted by: Dan at February 19, 2009 08:17 PM (ygjiI)

74 I could be wrong but didn't the jews support obama in almost as high a percentage as the blacks?

Posted by: jukin at February 19, 2009 08:18 PM (dCKOO)

75 Hey - OT, but interesting reading for the black helicopter crowd....
http://tinyurl.com/bz2aw3

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 19, 2009 08:21 PM (gIga4)

76 73 What are Fundies?

Fundies are Fundamentalist Liberals that believe things in contradiction to all knowledge and experience... they keep doing the same stupid policy moves over and over.

Obama is a Fundy.

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 08:29 PM (iafWn)

77 slizzle, I agree that he should be removed if the BC indicates that he's ineligible, I jst don't see it happening.

Dan-Fundamentalists (Christians), which is popularly interchangeable with Evangelicals. The term comes from a book (The Fundamentals) that was produced around the turn of the last century to set in stone what basic set of beliefs were fundamental to being Christian (across denominations). It was written in response to the liberal church's efforts to downplay the supernatural aspects of Christianity. So to an honest Christian it basically means 'another honest Christian.' To any liberal, it means 'not me,' and therefore is among the worst epithets imaginable. It has since been applied to militant Islam by folks who think all 'religions' are equally bad and it's stuck.

'Fundamentalist' Muslims of course have no love for Israel (which I think is the source of your questions). A lot of 'Fundamentalist' Christians see the modern state of Israel as the fulfillment of prophecy (Ezekiel's valley of very dry bones vision) on the shortening path to the end of time and Christ's return. As that involves a massive invasion of the current state of Israel (for a battle to take place on the plain of Meggido), many Israelis don't like their interpretation.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 08:34 PM (BDHFy)

78 What pisses me off about the birth certificate thing is that this shouldn't even be a damned question. Liberals ALWAYS talk about "the Constitution" like it's Holy Scripture (even though their judges mangle it freely), but I'm sure most wouldn't even BE disturbed if it turned out he wasn't born a citizen. Hell, if we don't see the birth certificate: how do we know for sure he IS a citizen now, even?

I'm not saying he's not: but why even allow speculation like this to continue, by playing games with a stupid Birth Certificate?

And this is the administration that prides itself on "transparency."

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 08:38 PM (iafWn)

79 I thought Dan meant comment 6, I'm not sure what CoolCzech is getting at.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 08:41 PM (BDHFy)

80

Senator Joe Biden could save Israel with one of his morning farts.

Nothing to worry about here.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 08:43 PM (cTHpq)

81 "Obama had a terrible nightmare. He wakes up Worf Michelle, and cries: "honey what a terrible thing, I dreamed I was spending my own money, not government's!"

Posted by: "Black Jack" Bouvier at February 19, 2009 08:54 PM (XR7nZ)

82 I was referring to #70, wondering why Obama doesn't just come clean with his stupid birth certificate.

It's a good question.

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He will not produce it because that would be end game. How anyone can't see this is incredible...

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 09:07 PM (ijeOD)

87 He doesn't produce an actual Birth Certificate (as opposed to a Certificate of Live Birth) because he knows he doesn't have to. He faces no penalties for failure to produce it.

Instead, he gets to spin anyone asking for it as racist, a troofer, etc. It's all about tactical advantage and scoring points in the arena of public opinion.

Posted by: NEPA Dissident at February 19, 2009 09:16 PM (Ohodx)

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Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 19, 2009 09:18 PM (gIga4)

89 Really annoying all this about The One's BC - do you really think anyone cared where Eighty-Eight was born?

Yeah, That's what I thought.

/

Posted by: Seig at February 19, 2009 09:21 PM (mdr+B)

It's going to be fun watching the fireworks between Netanyahu and Obama. Especially since Obama is clearly unqualified for world politics.

I'd love to see that too but I can't see Netanyahu wasting his time.

If it were to happen, I visualize Obama and Netanyahu opposite each other, both seated in elegant wingback chairs with a fireplace or floral display as background. Two to three camera flashes are going off every second and then Obama addresses both the journalists and Netanyahu at the same time. At this point, Netanyahu stands up, curses Obama in Hebrew, spits on him and then walks out of the room.

That would make me tingly up my leg.

Posted by: ErikW at February 19, 2009 09:23 PM (hKtiw)

91 This is the guy to whom Kathleen Parker sold herself? Way to go, Kathy, you twat. I am sure he will be the picture of cool, collected calm while he tosses Israel under the bus.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 19, 2009 09:24 PM (wgLRl)

92 @90: maybe Netanyahu could just throw his shoe at Obama?

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 09:26 PM (iafWn)

93 Has even one senator or congressman blasted our new MFing, racist, SOB, terrorist pardoning, AG? We're that beat down that no one has the balls to risk being called a racist?

Welp, back to the funny quips, I guess. So what if the new AG is a racist? What could go wrong there?

Again. Reparations, anyone?

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 09:26 PM (ijeOD)

94

What I see is Barry giving a rambling answer to some simple question posed to him by a reporter, finishing up with a slightly-modified repetition of what he had said at the beginning of his long-winded answer and Netanyahu looking at him for a five count trying to not be totally disappointed and then starting with his response...

Sort of like how the female police chief in the Naked Gun movies looked at Frank Drebin.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 09:27 PM (cTHpq)

95

Reparations are coming, the black race runs this country in many ways and us dumb white people of indiscriminate origin are too stupid to see it.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 09:28 PM (cTHpq)

96 91

"...Way to go, Kathy, you twat..."

Can't stop laughing!

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 09:29 PM (ijeOD)

97 Of course, we must draw some sort of distinction between wishing to overthrow the government and not liking the present administration.

Posted by: Helen Hokinson at February 19, 2009 09:33 PM (XR7nZ)

98 Actually I think the most important interaction between Netanyahu and Obama will be over the phone and end with as follows: "I have a duty to protect my people-you might give it a try sometime. I'm bombing Iran. Order your planes to stand down."

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 09:34 PM (BDHFy)

99 What's Obama hiding? I think that if we finally unearthed his college transcripts and birth records and medical records, etc., the world would see just just how ordinary, even mediocre, he really is. And that's what he's afraid of. That's what he's trying to hide.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 19, 2009 09:38 PM (XUV9W)

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Yo’ Honah, suh, aftah due deliberation, we the jury is convinced that the defendant is white as hell, suh!"

Posted by: George Price at February 19, 2009 09:39 PM (XR7nZ)

101

Yep, white and guilty, unless you put on a pained face like Senator Bill Bradley and renounce your being.

Then kill yourself, then you won't be guilty.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 09:44 PM (cTHpq)

102

maybe Netanyahu could just throw his shoe at Obama?

Just before he exits the room? Perfect.

Posted by: ErikW at February 19, 2009 09:44 PM (hKtiw)

103 Anyone ever figure out where the AG is going with his whole "American are Cowards about Race because they don't mix socially, so I'm launching a Justice Department Investigation" thing???

I mean, is it going to be against the law not to invite blacks to your dinner party from now on?

I've NEVER seen a black couple adopt a white baby, but have seen whites adopts plenty of black, Asian, and hispanic kids. Should THAT be investigated???

It's just insane what we have by way of an AG. These days, each time I listen to the news or to Rush I can't help wonder if the country hasn't gone off the deep end.

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 09:46 PM (iafWn)

104 99

Manchurian Candidate. Sort of...

It's pretty fucking obvious to most that the guy is hiding something that would disqualify him for the job of CIC (gags on own vomit). That this is dismissed, out of hand, is the sign of the times.

BTW, this isn't some trivial, embarrassing, minor thing. Like his mom being a, well, dirty thing. You don't spend hundreds of thousands, just to make a point.

Sorry, back to Drew's fantasy. This is settled and over! And who do any of you think you are to ask your new CIC (gags) to see his BC??

Posted by: JS at February 19, 2009 09:47 PM (ijeOD)

105 @101: maybe after he exits the room: just have Obama talking to the reporters about Hope & Change as Netanyahu's shoe comes flying from Stage Left directly into his forehead...

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 09:48 PM (iafWn)

106 My suspicion is that the real secret Obama is hiding is that the African father story if BS: I think the certificate would show that his slut mom fucked the black communist photographer that took those nudie pics of her.

Wouldn't that explain why Obama doesn't give a shit about George Obama living in the dirt-floor shack, or about his own aunt, for Christ's Sake?

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 19, 2009 09:50 PM (iafWn)

107 What's Obama hiding? I think that if we finally unearthed his college transcripts and birth records and medical records, etc., the world would see just just how ordinary, even mediocre, he really is. And that's what he's afraid of. That's what he's trying to hide.

The birth certificate will reveal him to be the bastard that we've always known him to be, no matter where his slut mother initially dropped him. The transcripts will reveal the submediocrity behind the teleprompter that we've always known him to be. Kerry's transcripts showed him to be slightly less academically accomplished than Chimpy McHalibushitler. Plus he's never released his complete military records. Gore's academic records show him to be the bloated dumbfuck who's the "expert" on global warming. Donks hate real records of things.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2009 09:51 PM (Xgw3v)

108 Anyone watch Bambi's press conference with Stephen Harper today? and can we trade Bambi for Harper. Harper gave sharp interesting answers to all the questions, Obama gave alot of uhmmm and ahhs and pauses and campaign soundbites that had nothing to do with the questions.

Posted by: robtr at February 19, 2009 09:51 PM (uJzOr)

109 Shit, CoolCzech beat me fo the slut comment. Godfuckingdammit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2009 09:53 PM (Xgw3v)

110 The UN World Conference Against Racism!?!?

What?!?!

The UN World Conference Against Racism!?!?

You gotta be kidding me!?!

The fucking UN World Conference Against Racism!?!?

Are you out of your fucking mind!?!

Why are we talking about the UN World Conference Against Racism!?!?

NAMBLA has more credibility than they do!!!!

Playoffs?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Che Pizza channeling Jim Mora at February 19, 2009 09:56 PM (t5329)

111

You guys are being mean, mean to black people, and Barry, which means that you are racist.

Now go have lunch at a college cafeteria with some black people as you penance.

I guess that is the penance at the Church of Barry. Say ten Yo Yo Yos and have a talk-in with some black people so that they can yell at you for being white.

Marvelous shit this new Administration is cooking up.

Ooooh, did I say cooking up? Maybe that means I think Barry is a cannibal! oooooooooooh! I'm so gonna get it.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 10:01 PM (cTHpq)

112

No, we cannot have Harper over here to run our country, he was not born here and he's white.

That disqualifies him.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 10:02 PM (cTHpq)

113 97-Helen, I don't want the US government overthrown, I want a Conservative in the White House that will fire about 80% of it. Or less, I don't know how much of it is the military off the top of my head.

I would like to see a minimization of the damage Barry wants to do to us (Recall he said he could be trusted on guns because he didn't have the votes in Congress to take them away). By means within the system.

I certainly wouldn't want anyone to break into the records room of the hospital in Hawaii and scan his Birth Certificate onto the internet for all to see. That would be awful.

(Yes, I know the Watergate break-in backfired)

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2009 10:09 PM (BDHFy)

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115 Just a quick question for all of you morons,

Is JS really as stupid as he seems?

Posted by: NJconservative at February 19, 2009 10:15 PM (nwJit)

116

I've NEVER seen a black couple adopt a white baby, but have seen whites adopts plenty of black, Asian, and hispanic kids. Should THAT be investigated???

No because that would be racist.

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2009 10:18 PM (oRJZj)

117 The future looks grim, I tells ya. I'm gonna be 90yo in a nameless bar with an Obama BC guy to the right and a 9/11 kook on the left. And nobody will have money to drink except some pregnant welfare broad in the corner.

Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 19, 2009 10:20 PM (gIga4)

118

No, we cannot have Harper over here to run our country, he was not born here and he's white.

That disqualifies him.

Now we're enforcing the "Natural Born Citizen" part of the constitution?? Little late for that isn't it?

Posted by: robtr at February 19, 2009 10:26 PM (uJzOr)

119

maybe after he exits the room: just have Obama talking to the reporters about Hope & Change as Netanyahu's shoe comes flying from Stage Left directly into his forehead...

Followed by the cold stare. Putin could take a lesson from Netanyahu.

Posted by: ErikW at February 19, 2009 10:31 PM (hKtiw)

120

"Now we're enforcing the "Natural Born Citizen" part of the constitution?? Little late for that isn't it?"

Well, that really only applies to white people, specifically conservatives, as we know the NYT is of the opinion that McCain isn't a natural born citizen.

See, cuz he's white.

Now if he were black, he could be from another country and become US President without any question.

I'm not sure where my parodying this shit leaves off and realty takes over, honestly.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at February 19, 2009 10:43 PM (cTHpq)

121 Oddly enough, 1/2 of all people have less than average intelligence, yet they can vote.

More Oddly, half of all people think that the Government "makes" money, which they can have, which they vote for (there is no correlation with the above half); and these fuckers are ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIGHT!!!,1!

....

Easier to say this, I can vote for the guy who will grab your average juicer, put him in a slam,work him in the salt mines of moria for just a few extra days a year, "for the common good", and get a big flat screen TV out of it?

FUCK YEAH!!!!

Get on the 'Effin band-wagon! I want my big screen, and if it takes just a few days or weeks off a juicer's life, 'F them!

/

Posted by: Seig at February 19, 2009 10:44 PM (mdr+B)

122 All that is required for evil to triumph in the world is...

...for the UN to initiate a series of conferences.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 19, 2009 10:55 PM (Ygf78)

123 HAHA the birth certificate !! really if he was born outside of the USA don't you think the Clinton machine would have been able to uncover it ?

Posted by: John ryan at February 19, 2009 11:06 PM (LHCAa)

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Posted by: V.P. Joe Biden at February 19, 2009 11:06 PM (d1zSa)

125

HAHA the birth certificate !! really if he was born outside of the USA don't you think the Clinton machine would have been able to uncover it ?

Are you talking about the Clinton Machine that works for Obama? No I don't think so.

Posted by: robtr at February 19, 2009 11:14 PM (uJzOr)

126

I'm not sure where my parodying this shit leaves off and realty takes over, honestly.

Iran has become a nuclear power. Does that help?

Posted by: ErikW at February 19, 2009 11:22 PM (hKtiw)

127

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29283701

Go vote on Santelli's web page that you want to join the Tea Party.

Posted by: Nancy at February 19, 2009 11:27 PM (vohyX)

128

Obambi's grandma is a liar but he's not. yeah, right.

And no one in the US is entitled to ask the question, because no one has 'standing'.

Why the fuck is that, exactly. Why do I as an American citizen, not have standing to question whether someone meets the requirements of the Constitution of the United States?

One of you wise guy lawyer types care to explain that without using case law instead of the plain language of the Constitution?

Posted by: Mephitis at February 19, 2009 11:42 PM (ehXLT)

129

And getting back to Israel and touching on today's other news, here's what a Canadian cabinet minister was doing today. (P.C. = Privy Councilor = cabinet minister, FYI.)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2009 11:50 PM (TpHGM)

130

And no one in the US is entitled to ask the question, because no one has 'standing'.

Why the fuck is that, exactly. Why do I as an American citizen, not have standing to question whether someone meets the requirements of the Constitution of the United States?

How dare you question nine men in black dresses! Heresy! Apostasy! Burn at the cross shall you.

Obama have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: Seig at February 19, 2009 11:55 PM (mdr+B)

131 "On the electors note, it done matter if the cast their votes for him, if it turns out he's not eligibly,"

What you said. I'll follow your lead when it comes to the finer points of the Constitution.

Posted by: notropis at February 20, 2009 02:24 AM (bllfZ)

132 "My statement was not racist."

You make the very strange assumption that "if it's defensible, it's not racist."

"Blacks are ruining this country" is about as self-evidently racist a statement as can be made, regardless of its level of truth or falsity.

How is it not racist to say "blacks are ruining this country?"

You are defining the alleged ruination of the country based solely on race, and nothing else. That would be, by definition, racist.

Posted by: notropis at February 20, 2009 02:37 AM (bllfZ)

133 OK. You win. I've thought it over, and with your help, have awoken...

Affirmative action? Not only not bad for a country founded on the idea of individual liberty, etc, but it's great! Why not reward incompetence?

Out of control voilent crime? We need more, not less!

Birthing out of wedlock babies at a 70-80% rate? Babies are cute!

Rampant drug use? Dude!

Anti-social violence to "protest" when things seem bad? I'm down with it

Electing a racist POTUS, who is a muslim sympathizer, who befriends terrorists, and who feels our very constitution is in need of "fundamental" change, and who has such respect for the people of this country that he will not release his BC. All in the name of having to elect a black man, and nothing more? And then having his AG declare us racist anyway?

It's clear that these things, and more, are doing nothing but contributing to America's greatness.

What was I thinking?

Posted by: JS at February 20, 2009 08:23 AM (oW8Fp)

134

My statement was not racist. It is based on crime stats, out of wedlock birth rates, affirmative action, set asides, welfare stats, drugs, etc. Please explain how these things, and more, are not ruining this country.

Ridiculious on it's face. Even if we grant you everything you say, blacks are 10-15 percent of the population. They couldn't vote Obama in if they all voted twice. Whites are ruining this country. There are enough of them to vote for socialism and so we got it.

Race matters less than creed.

Posted by: kidney at February 20, 2009 08:48 AM (FgUFX)

135

South Africa, Syria, Algeria, Iran, Botswana, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Morocco, Holy See, Libya, Egypt, and China.

Nice company to be in, huh?

Doctrinal prejudice makes strange bedfellows.

Posted by: GamerFromJump at February 20, 2009 09:40 AM (AvBtp)

136

A proposal to condemn human-rights violations based on sexual orientation...

Nice company to be in, huh?

The Islamic world is against it because it stones queers to death (while secretly encouraging it as in the boy-fucking markets). The Vatican doesn't want the leftists at the UN promoting homosexuality or attacking heterosexuality and Natural Law via treaty--the same reason the US (up until now, so far, anyway) hasn't signed the Law of the Seas treaty, war crimes prosecution treaties etc.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 20, 2009 11:26 AM (TpHGM)

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