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| Attorney General Eric Holder Says America Is "A Nation Of Cowards" When It Comes To Talking About RaceI wish I could say I was making this up but alas, no such luck. "Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," said Holder, nation's first black attorney general. Race issues continue to be a topic of political discussion, Holder said, but "we, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race." He urged people of all races to use Black History Month as a chance for honest discussion of racial matters, including issues of health care, education, and economic disparities. Race "is an issue we have never been at ease with and, given our nation's history, this is in some ways understandable," Holder said. "If we are to make progress in this area, we must feel comfortable enough with one another and tolerant enough of each other to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us."The idea that we don't talk about race enough in this country is simply laughable on its face. As Ace pointed out after Obama's "Toss Rev. Wright And Grandma Under The Bus Speech" in Philadelphia last March, it's that some things are never on the agenda for discussion that creates problems. I agree with Ambinder that this was, however, a lecture, not a "dialogue." Futhermore it was a lecture for white people only. Whites were told that legitimate grievances over black criminality -- oh, by the way, the real and enduring source of racial tension -- and Affirmative Action were "exploited" by politicians and media to stoke "fear" for personal gain. Hence, not really legitimate at all. Meanwhile, as regards Wright and black hatred and borderline insane paranoia, he counseled "understanding" by whites -- but no call for blacks to give up such retrograde and hateful fantasies and scapegoatings. My idea of a truly groundbreaking speech would involve a Cosbyesque riff on some of the real causes of white resentment, starting first and foremost with rampant black criminality and anti-social behavior, and blacks' acceptance of this as not only acceptable but justified -- perhaps even obligatory -- given past and current racial discrimination.Now if Holder wants to have that kind of discussion, then yeah maybe we need to talk more. However given the fact that that didn't happen after his bosses big race speech in Philly and Holder's typical liberal litany of "health care, education, and economic disparities" I'm not exactly holding my breath for it to happen now. MORE: Here's a link to the speech as prepared for delivery. On the whole it's not as bad as the provocative excerpt of 'cowards' (though thats not to say its good by any stretch). Instead it is the usual mushy liberal line on this stuff....some how we will become less race conscious by being more race conscious. I think the more pernicious, though less shocking statement in the speech is, "Simply put, to get to the heart of this country one must examine its racial soul." That is profoundly wrong. The soul of America is not race, it's freedom. America is an idea, a shared set of assumptions more than anything else. We are not loyal to clan, tribe, race, religion or even the land. We are the descendants of people who believed in an idea and welcomed (often imperfectly) those who shared that ideal. Thats not to say race isnt a very important element of America it clearly is. Thats mainly because it's one of the most obvious ways in which the rhetoric of America did not match the reality. Yet no one who is remotely honest denies that astonishing progress has been made and continues to be made (see Obama, Barack and Holder, Eric for proof of this) despite the efforts of those who would live only in the past. To say that race is the heart of this country is to insult not only America but to many, many blacks throughout history. Personally, I think some of the most remarkable people this country has ever produced are blacks who volunteered to fight and often die in the service this nation before they were recognized as full citizens. Imagine fighting in a segregated unit in WWII on the side of freedom and against a racist regime only to return to the Jim Crow south. Yet many did because they believed that some day America would do the right thing and they wanted to be a part of it, to contribute their share to the idea of America and make it possible. Today we live in a world where students think they should get As for trying and yet here were men who were willing to die for a nation that did not embrace them as full and equal citizens. Their faith in America was simply incredible and it has been proven to have been well placed. Those men didnt fight for black America or their race. Just like every other serviceman they fought for America the ideal, America the imperfect, America the possible. To say that America is at its heart and soul about race seem and attempt to cheapen that. And that is unforgivable. Comments1
Barack Obama Hates White People...
Posted by: obscenely fat sweaty he-bitch AKA ClassicCon at February 18, 2009 04:03 PM (q1YBo) 2
Fuck off, Holder.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 18, 2009 04:05 PM (Xgw3v) 3
I agree with him in that we're a nation of cowards, but beyond that we diverge. This nation of cowards refuses to stand up to those who stoke racial hatred. The Jessie Jacksons, the Al Shartons, the Jeremiah Wrights, the Barack Obamas of this world. Cosby tried and was taken to the woodshed. Until the silent majority of this nation get's its stones in place on this issue...a nation of cowards we remain.
Posted by: Rogue at February 18, 2009 04:06 PM (Pltz3) 4
Eric Holder admits he's a coward when it comes to the issue of race, the issue blacks have yet to come to terms with themselves, both in self acceptance and in mutual respect for others.
Posted by: maverick muse at February 18, 2009 04:06 PM (Z4SL/) 5
Something is wrong with my irony meter. The needle is wrapped around the right peg.
Anyways, I'm willing to quit cowering before race and remove affirmative action. When do we vote on it? Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2009 04:10 PM (FcR7P) Posted by: Andrew the Noisy at February 18, 2009 04:12 PM (V0QP1) 7
I don't even know what he means by "talking about race." Seriously, what the hell does that mean? Whites admitting guilt? Indians openly giggling about their now legal roulette wheels? Asian kids spilling it about math? What? A black man is President of the United States, for crying out loud. What else can we talk about? Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 18, 2009 04:13 PM (B+qrE) 8
The elitists are the cowards, pointing their own guilty finger at everyone else. Note well, blacks are not wanted in the elitist San Francisco neighborhoods, and neither are the homeless, nor are the illegal aliens in that refuge of intolerance.
Any citizen is a coward who puts up with convoluted double-talk without legitimately demanding from their Constitutional Government that public servants fulfill their job responsibility descriptions. Posted by: maverick muse at February 18, 2009 04:14 PM (Z4SL/) 9
He urged people of all races to use Black History Month as a chance for honest discussion of racial matters
Oh sure, the shortest month of the year. Racist. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 18, 2009 04:14 PM (PQY7w) 10
Uh-huh. 620,000 Americans died in the Civil War because we're cowards on race. And Harry Truman ran up against his own party to support civil rights legislation because he was a coward too, I suppose.
Fuck you Eric Holder. Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/tard at February 18, 2009 04:14 PM (IoUF1) 11
No single force has been more of an impediment to racial harmony in the past 40 years than the Democrat Grieveance Machine, designed to divide us not unite us, and to create suspicion, guilt, and a sense of victimhood for the express purpose of creating more unhappy, resentfull people, and thus more Democrat voters. And on a personal note, Eric: Fuck you, you corrupt lying asshole scumbag. Posted by: sherlock at February 18, 2009 04:15 PM (cq3pU) 12
Holder is absolutely right. I will go farther... We are a nation of cowards when it comes to issues of race, gender, sexual preference, religion, culture, nationality, and sexuality... Not because we don't talk enough about these things but because the place where we spend most of our time is required, by law, to be sanitized of such discussions. How can it be otherwise when the termination of an employee who fails to bathe leads to an EEO complaint and a settlement that leaves the supervisor permanently damages? How can it be otherwise when requiring one's staff to get off the phone and get to work leads to complaints of gender, sexual preference, or cultural insensitivity that destroy a manager's career? How can it be otherwise when employees self select their cliques so as to avoid admitting into their confidences those who can scuttle their careers? Mr. Holder, we are INDEED a nation of cowards on such issues and it is the law that is to blame G-Veg Posted by: G-Veg at February 18, 2009 04:15 PM (EGSGm) 13
Joined by loony left commenters, Al Sharpton's been busy talking about race today--does that count? (BTW, does anyone want to Google "bush +chimp"?) Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2009 04:15 PM (TpHGM) 14
I can only hope Holder and his ilk keep this up. The Even Greater Upchuck of 2010 will make The Great Upchuck of 1994 look like mild indigestion.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2009 04:16 PM (ujg0T) 15
Wearing that moustache is courageous. Posted by: Conn at February 18, 2009 04:16 PM (o6DfR) Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 04:16 PM (Q1lie) 17
Race issues continue to be a topic of political discussion, Holder
said, but "we, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with
each other about race."
Eric, that's because for a lot of us it doesn't matter, you stupid ignorant race-baiting cocksucker. Posted by: SaintGeorgeGentile at February 18, 2009 04:17 PM (onyQj) 18
why, we can talk about reparations for slavery and how much each black person should get, otherwise you can shut the fuck up and sit down.
Posted by: obamatron at February 18, 2009 04:17 PM (IRh55) Posted by: conservative movement at February 18, 2009 04:17 PM (xyyHG) 20
ace's old site
Posted by: Ben B. at February 18, 2009 04:17 PM (rs7M9) 21
Is anyone else getting sick to death of the incessant twisting by liberals of every single statement, concept or issue in order to fit a leftist, politically correct template? These people are heinous. Anyway, it was great to go back and read the classic dissection and skewering by Ace of Obama's race reconciliation speech made last year. Sadly, I wasn't in the AoS loop at the time so I had missed it. Well worth a look or a re-read as the situation warrants.
Posted by: RM at February 18, 2009 04:18 PM (GkYyh) Posted by: obscenely fat sweaty he-bitch AKA ClassicCon at February 18, 2009 04:19 PM (q1YBo) 23
The only people that want to continuously rant about race are those that directly benefit by race. The Jacksons, Sharptons, and Farrakahns (and now the Holders) of the world keep harping on the subject, saying that whitey doesn't do enough. The rest of us are busy ignoring race, and just trying to survive and (hopefully) get along. I've got white friends, black friends, Asian friends, Hispanic friends -- but I don't think of them that way; only as "friends."
Fuck off, Holder. Come back when you're willing to give up race-baiting and start judging people "not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Fat chance of that happening, though. Posted by: Avant-Gard Liberal Artist (currently starving) at February 18, 2009 04:19 PM (SKS9c) 24
Gang , this fairness doctrine stuff is much more frightening than everyone realizes. They will knock Rush and Hannity off the air and try to crack down on Pajamas, AoS, Michell, and Townhall.
be afraid, this is the real deal. Posted by: Ben B. at February 18, 2009 04:20 PM (rs7M9) 25
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Eric, that's because for a lot of us it doesn't matter, you stupid ignorant race-baiting cocksucker. This is all that really needs be said for, I'm guessing, the vast, vast, vast majority of Americans. Posted by: ECM at February 18, 2009 04:20 PM (q3V+C) 26
What else can we talk about?
Well I tell ya - true story: Yesterday morning I'm riding down the elevator with a large group of students. All were women, all black except one white girl and me (white). The white chick continues her conversation with the other women where they were obviously discussing the proper color of underwear to utilize when wearing white pants. A very important topic. The black women were telling her to wear black panties with white pants. I had to interject and inform them that that may be true for black women, but I highly advise nude underwear for whites! Very open communication. If this isn't open discussion of race and differences, I don't what is. We all had a good laugh. Holder doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Posted by: KelliPundit at February 18, 2009 04:21 PM (fa7Rm) Posted by: Fresh Air at February 18, 2009 04:21 PM (BkFHY) 28
Very open communication. If this isn't open discussion of race and differences, I don't what is. We all had a good laugh.
Holder doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Posted by: KelliPundit at February 18, 2009 04:21 PM (fa7Rm)
Your racist racism was so racist that I just puked on myself... Posted by: obscenely fat sweaty he-bitch AKA ClassicCon at February 18, 2009 04:23 PM (q1YBo) 29
Ok, I'll take him at his word.
Mr. Holder, I know 'us white people' all look alike to you, be we came from all over the damn place fleeing crappy situations. I understand you're upset that the Arabs were enslaving people all throughout Africa and South America for shipment by the Dutch to wealthy British and American landowners. But you're so fucking focused on your own racial issues that you haven't the first clue about any -other- race's issues. The massive waves of immigration throughout American history were filled with people of a very wide swath of ethnicities. The Irish, Italians, Germans, Chinese, Japanese have all historically arrived with squat for resources. Currently (at least near Seattle) we have a wave of eastern Europeans, Russians and Mexicans. As much as we disparage illegal immigration, even the illegal immigrants are doing a far better job of working their way out of the economic lowest-rung than the Americans of African decent that insist on considering themselves victims. PS: Please don't give me crap about my ancestors owning yours - it's actually the opposite. I'm Cherokee, thanks. (I knew you couldn't tell us white people apart.) Posted by: Al at February 18, 2009 04:23 PM (CyBUS) 30
The political left shut down debate on race, so if you think of Holder as a leftist, his remarks are so hypocritical as to be deranged. If you think of Holder as David Duke, then his call for honest debate makes sense. Posted by: Chas at February 18, 2009 04:26 PM (81ekr) 31
How's this for racial conciliation, stop robbing, raping and killing, particularly your own kind, and your lives will be better off. Oh and please stop with all of the conspiracies that have supposedly been spawned to keep
you down. They haven't. Your really not that important in the scheme of things. Have a nice day! Posted by: McLovin at February 18, 2009 04:27 PM (RwvN1) 32
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The political left shut down debate on race, so if you think of Holder as a leftist, his remarks are so hypocritical as to be deranged. If you think of Holder as David Duke, then his call for honest debate makes sense. I don't think of him as a leftist or David Duke... I just think of him as an idiot. IMHO, the reason we don't have an honest dialogue about race is that a large chunk of this country won't let the discussion end unless all parties agree "It's all whitey's fault!" People on the left are just talking into an echo chamber with that crap while people on the right ignore them and try to move on with their lives. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 18, 2009 04:28 PM (cP6N3) 33
I think that Holder's referring to the most important racial discussion:
Which would you prefer? Reparations to descendants of slaves or monetary compensation to families of those unfairly impacted by historical involuntary servitude? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 18, 2009 04:28 PM (X1/sS) 34
I'm 3/4's Sicilian. Sicily has never been ruled by a Sicilian throughout recorded history and they were calling us n*ggers centuries before any African sold his brother into to slavery to the white man. Where's my money?
Still want to talk about race Mr Holder? Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 04:28 PM (Q1lie) 35
What an agressively boring man. And this has what to do with being AG? America is going to get pretty tired of fours years of black history month. If I'm a coward it's because I'm afraid of being bored to death. Posted by: Eleven at February 18, 2009 04:29 PM (7DB+a) 36
The time for debate is over! The people want action!
Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 18, 2009 04:30 PM (gIga4) 37
Another day and yet another statement from the BO administration to smack my head over...Eric Holder, with all due respect -- WTF are you babbling about?
Posted by: billygoat at February 18, 2009 04:30 PM (x0n2J) 38
This can't possibly be true. It just can't be,... nobody could poke a sleeping tiger like this.
The typical white folks that voted for the cocksucker in chief are not going to remain silent about this. It may be a quiet comment in November 2010, but the heretofore clean fan will be getting dirty soon. Posted by: is my unicorn on back order? at February 18, 2009 04:30 PM (50kDg) 39
Ruce just isn't that interesting.
Posted by: exception at February 18, 2009 04:31 PM (o5wq5) 40
I had to interject and inform them that that may be true for black women, but I highly advise nude underwear for whites!
The politically correct answer would be no panties. I'm starting to like political correctness. Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 04:32 PM (Q1lie) Posted by: Kestrel♠ at February 18, 2009 04:32 PM (8G9NO) Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 18, 2009 04:32 PM (X1/sS) 43
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I'm 3/4's Sicilian. Sicily has never been ruled by a Sicilian
throughout recorded history and they were calling us n*ggers centuries
before any African sold his brother into to slavery to the white man.
Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 04:28 PM (Q1lie) Now we just call you a Guinea-WOP-Dago-Goombah.Kidding, of course. Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/tard at February 18, 2009 04:33 PM (IoUF1) 44
He urged people of all races to use Black History Month as a chance for honest discussion politically correct recitation of racial matters, including issues of health care, education, and economic disparities approved viewpoints. Kids, dust off last year's George Washington Carver report and turn it in again. It's the only safe thing to do. Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 18, 2009 04:36 PM (2QFX4) 45
In my experience, it seems that everyone knows what the racial problem is. White people talk about it with other white people. Black people (so I'm told) talk about it with other black people. Apparently, though, it's something you don't talk about in "mixed" company.
The only reason people shy away from mentioning things in mixed company (of any type) is that whatever it is is usually very very embarrassing for one of the parties. Posted by: mr.frakypants at February 18, 2009 04:37 PM (pffBj) Posted by: billygoat at February 18, 2009 04:38 PM (x0n2J) 47
The politically correct answer would be no panties. The CORRECT answer would depend on a matrix of factors. Think nude, fat Germans on a beach and I believe the truth of my assessement will be apparent. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 18, 2009 04:38 PM (B+qrE) 48
where i work there a number of black ppl, they are generally nice, decent ppl who i get along with very well, i have tried to talk to them about race and politics, i wanted to find out why they were joined at the hip to Dem Party, we discussed various aspects of poltics and i got the impression they held some very socialist views which seemed to me to be very closely tied to their identity as blacks, now believe it or not i can be very tactful when i want to be, so i asked, tactfully, about this pattern of socialism and blackness that i was detecting, and tried, very respectfully, to explain how i felt about socialism, this lady went ballistic! yelling at me, red-faced, spit flying about how i "just couldn't understand!" and "we've been kept down!" and "you owe us" i've never tried, or will i try, to talk to a black person about race and politics again Posted by: obamatron at February 18, 2009 04:38 PM (IRh55) 49
I'll participate in an "honest discussion of race" when the political left removes the gun they have pressed to my head, the one they're threatening to destroy my life with if I even begin to sound like anything they can label "racist". Holder is trying to bait non-blacks into honestly expressing themselves so that they can be labeled "racist" and destroyed. Nothing in this country has changed. I'm not taking the bait. Holder can shove his invitation. Its a trap. Posted by: Chas at February 18, 2009 04:39 PM (81ekr) 50
We were a melting pot until the black kids only hung out and ate lunch with the blackkids and then the latino kids only hung out with and ate lunch with the latino kids and the chinese kids only hung out and ate lunch with the chinese kids. And the Irish kids and the Italian kids and the Polish kids and the Jewish kids and the Wasps couldn't understand this seperate table seperate neighborhood mentality. They were seeing these kids segregate themselves and were hurt.
Posted by: dictionary at February 18, 2009 04:40 PM (zplc6) 51
I don't know if I agree with him or disagree because I can't figure out what he is trying to say.. If he is saying we are too fucking politically correct and overly sensitive to everybody's feelings to admit what the real problems in our country are, then yes he absolutely correct. If he is saying that we are cowards for not confronting all of the fake grievances that are fabricated by the democraps to control blacks and hispanics then he is a complete fucking tool. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 18, 2009 04:40 PM (E6GUg) 52
Seattle is a good example of not talking about the real race issues. The Seattle Public School District has a school, The African American Academy. 96% black and one of the worst performing schools, if not the worst, in the district. After years and years of not educating the students, it is finally being shut down due to budget issues. Yea, lets talk about race, lets talk about how black men to a much higher degree than other races do not financially or emotionally support their kids. Let talk about how education is not valued in black culture. Lets talk about how Vietnamese boat people can come to this country 30 years ago with nothing at all, not even knowing the language and are not thriving members of the community. Oh, you do not want to talk about race as much? Posted by: AndrewsDad at February 18, 2009 04:40 PM (C2//T) Posted by: shoey at February 18, 2009 04:41 PM (IRh55) 54
Let's consider the case of Sampson, a 58-year-old white janitor and student majoring in communication studies at Indiana University-Purdue University, Indianapolis Sampson's troubles began last year when a co-worker complained after seeing him reading a book titled ''Notre Dame vs. the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan.'' The book's cover features white-robed Klansmen and burning crosses against a backdrop of Notre Dame's campus. It recounts a 1924 riot between Notre Dame students and the Klan in which the students from the Catholic university prevailed. ''You used extremely poor judgment by insisting on openly reading the book related to a historically and racially abhorrent subject in the presence of your black co-workers,'' Lillian Charleston wrote in a letter to Sampson.Sampson eventually prevailed and recieved an apology, but it shows just how hard it is to talk about race in America. Posted by: Neo at February 18, 2009 04:42 PM (Yozw9) 55
Kestrel,
That's wasn't too freaky until you scroll down to the pick of him lying down with a blanket, table and bowl of oranges on his lap. Is he using his dick to hold it up or something? Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 04:42 PM (Q1lie) 56
Colleges & Universities across America just called and said: Holy Shit! Why didn't we think of this before? Let's create an African-American Studies department in our school to "explore" these "issues" and "raise awareness." Posted by: Darling at February 18, 2009 04:42 PM (4ZV2D) 57
Morgan Freeman was on 60 Minutes, and was asked, "How do you end racism?" His simple answer was the opposite of Eric Holder's. He answered "Don't talk about it." Four magic words that will end the racism.
I am suggesting Morgan Freeman's birthday (June 1) as a "Don't talk about it" day when even the news media would agree to "Don't talk about it." If this took off, maybe there could be two "Don't talk about it" days, then 3, then 4, then.... Posted by: Smorgasbord at February 18, 2009 04:42 PM (cY73y) 58
I'm just glad that the entire nation will get to see what it's like to live in New Orleans. We've been a blacktopia for over thirty years now, and I think everyone would agree that New Orleans is an economic juggernaut that serves as an example of the unlimited possibilities of free market capitalism.
In addition to our astoundingly low crime rate, our highly educated and skilled populace give our vibrant city the benefits of their unique cultural perspecti.... BBBWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!! Seriously, this country is FUCKED. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 18, 2009 04:43 PM (bu0Ek) 59
I can not even begin to tell you how offended
I am by his words. He has some real cajones standing up there talking like that. It offends me almost as much as the two black boys calling each other n*gg*r today as I walked past them on my way into my kids middle school. WTF does he want us to talk about? Isnt segragated on the weekend what Michelle Obama wanted in her senior thesis? Seriously. I am SO over the double standard we have in this country. Oh, to be able to call a spade a spade and it not be deemed racist. Conversation? You want a racial conversation? Bring it on. But dont bitch when you dont like what some have to say about it. Posted by: c17wife at February 18, 2009 04:43 PM (8SapG) 60
OK let's be honest about race. If Eric's boss were 100% white he wouldn't be president. It's just that the lefties and mediatards wet their panties at the thought of electing an African-American (even half of one) that he was given a free pass and his empty resume was never questioned. Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2009 04:43 PM (1Jaio) 61
If we don't talk about race enough, then why in G-d's name do we have Black History Month? What about Asian History Month, Hispanic History Month, Jewish History Month, Slovenian History month....... etc. ad infinitum?????
The problem is we talk about it TOO MUCH. That's why creeps like Sharpton and Jackson have so much influence. Perhaps if we all thought of ourselves as Americans first, then it wouldn't be an issue. Holder is an exasperating ass-clown. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2009 04:44 PM (9Cooa) 62
"...use Black History Month as a chance for honest discussion of racial matters, including issues of health care, education, and economic disparities." Well, of course. Isn't that why Black History was concocted? Posted by: Darling at February 18, 2009 04:45 PM (4ZV2D) 63
This such tiresome shit. But hey, Holder! We can have a discussion about race. In fact we are. It's not the one YOU want to have, though.
Posted by: Scooter at February 18, 2009 04:45 PM (ULs1K) 64
I agree with Holder, even though I suspect we disagree about the details. Americans (white Americans) are cowards about race. I don't really understand why that is but I have no doubt that it's the case. Sure the left tries to enforce their view of things. But you don't have to play along with them. Posted by: flenser at February 18, 2009 04:45 PM (2VmJc) 65
Kids, dust off last year's George Washington Carver report and turn it in again. It's the only safe thing to do.
It'd be safer to dust off the W.E.B DuBois report. Modern American teachers so love socialist icons. A Brooker T. Washington report is a sure path to a failing grade. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 18, 2009 04:46 PM (X1/sS) Posted by: Barry O at February 18, 2009 04:48 PM (knHvu) 67
I'm not touching that one with a ten-foot pole. (Not that I'm prejudiced against tall people or Polish people, mind you. Some of my best friends are really tall Polish people.)
Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2009 04:48 PM (5KNeJ) 68
No shit right? Post-racial president. What the fuck happened to that?
Posted by: Eleven at February 18, 2009 04:49 PM (7DB+a) 69
I am SO over the double standard we have in this country. Oh, to be able to call a spade a spade and it not be deemed racist. Then do it. The reason you get called a racist at present is that everyone is so cowed over the topic. I really don't understand the mixture of guilt and fear which the typical white American feels over the topic of race. That includes white conservatives. Maybe especially white conservatives.
Posted by: flenser at February 18, 2009 04:51 PM (2VmJc) 70
Well, I would say that 53% of this nation are indeed race "cowards".
Because of the color of B. Hussein Obama's skin, this 53% didn't have the nerve to tell his unqualified jerk he had no business running a lemonade stand much less running for the presidency. So yes, there are a lot of cowards around especially in our MSM who lacked the cajones to point out to this empty-suit that if he were white, his candidacy would be the joke of the century. Posted by: LogicalSC at February 18, 2009 04:51 PM (WGx+b) 71
Is he saying that whitey should start using the N-word again?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 18, 2009 04:51 PM (E6GUg) 72
Given the ethnicity of the current occupant of the highest office in the land, I find the whole issue of race to be laughable.
Posted by: Farmer_Joe at February 18, 2009 04:52 PM (z4es9) 73
btw, she chose to call her political goals "community oriented", maybe it was the whole socialism thing that set her off, but i doubt it because she admitted she don't know what socialism was Posted by: shoey at February 18, 2009 04:54 PM (IRh55) 74
I don't think of him as a leftist or David Duke... I just think of him as an idiot. I thought you weren't going to think of him as a leftist. Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2009 04:55 PM (Lrsi6) 75
Farmer_Joe: FAIL
Lord Obamicorn ascended to the presidency IN SPITE OF your racist racism. That does not mean that you are not still a racist, Racist. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 18, 2009 04:56 PM (bu0Ek) Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 04:58 PM (Q1lie) 77
Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said he will travel to Guantanamo Bay Navy base in Cuba to advance President Barack Obamas plan to close the prison camp for suspected terrorists. Holder, speaking to reporters today at the Justice Department in Washington, said his Feb. 23 trip will give him a first-hand look at conditions at the prison that holds about 250 detainees. We need to have our feet on the ground to really see what is going on down at the facility, to see how people are being detained, to talk to people down there about the interrogation techniques that are being used, Holder told reporters. I think that will be an important first step as we try to resolve the issues that the president has put before me.
Eric, first pull your head out of your ass. Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2009 04:59 PM (1Jaio) 78
White people aren't permitted to talk about race.
Posted by: Greg Toombs at February 18, 2009 05:01 PM (vAu1O) 79
First can we discuss how when all these subgroups (blacks, chinese latinos etc) who live in their enclaves, make it and become upper middle class or lower upper class they themselves treat members of their subset worse than anyone else ever could.
Posted by: veritas at February 18, 2009 05:01 PM (zplc6) 80
America will never be able to heal this sore until we, as a nation, are finally willing to admit that it's all the white man's fault. And even when we do, the scar will never go away. Posted by: Morris Dees at February 18, 2009 05:01 PM (Ohodx) Posted by: jaleach at February 18, 2009 05:02 PM (gHrZU) 82
Screw you Holder. I'm afraid we are going to see a lot more of this for the next four years. Ugh. Grievance mongers.
Posted by: Nico at February 18, 2009 05:02 PM (F6Jj4) 83
Especially Republican white people.
Posted by: Greg Toombs at February 18, 2009 05:02 PM (vAu1O) 84
Holder is not stupid. He's setting down a marker for what Obama will pushing for:
Extended Affirmative Action, increased even more, to satisfy Blacks who voted 99% for Obama, or thereabouts. Reparations for Slavery, i.e. a tax on Whites to give money to Blacks. Presumably Oprah does not have enough money. This agenda is clearly being driven by Obama's calculated political need to have enthusiastic Black political participation, shouting down of opposition to his policies (as "Racist") and employing patronage aimed nearly completely at Blacks and Hispanics. This is based solidly on Obama (and Holder's) experience as racial grievance polititicans, extorting money from the White taxpayer in exchange for "moral authority" and status building and other "SWPL" yuppie status markers. It is however, a profoundly stupid move in the sense that it assumes the same good times and "don't rock the boat" attitude among the White working-middle class majority. If Whites are last hired, first fired, which they are, under Affirmative Action, and in particular White Men, as Robert Reich suggested, that does not mean much in GOOD TIMES. Because there is always another job, paying as much if not more, or flipping that house, or whatever. Money to be made, a lot of it, and speaking up and getting labeled "Racist" jeapordizes that whole business of making money. Affirmative Action, "reparations" and the shouting of "racism" were enabled by EVERYONE making money and being afraid to rock the boat. Now, that's gone. White men in particular are hit hardest, they are told through the media that they are the enemy, and they know well and good their wives will leave them if they are not making money. If they are single, they're going to dating zero if they don't make money. The Sexual marketplace and Sexual Revolution insures this. Right off the bat you have a whole class of people made into losers, with nothing left to lose, and open racial appeals on a spoils basis deeply appealing and VERY effective. A guy who's broke, threatened with living out of his car, no woman around or even worse, a woman threatening to leave him unless he makes money soon, well he's likely to be very attentive to Spoils arguments: that taking money from White guys to enable permanent Welfare, while discriminating against him in hiring, education, etc. is wrong. The Jessie Helms "Hands Ad" (which btw ran during a recession IIRC, 1983). You can find it in YouTube. White working/middle class people care about being called "Racist" during good times because their upside opportunities are hurt. They don't care much at all during bad times because there is no upside, and they care about getting out of their downside. This is something that Holder and Obama, who grew up politically in uninterrupted good times, do not understand. They put along with Robert Reich their cards on the table, and it's going to burn them. Any state with a sizeable Black or Hispanic population will see Republicans seize on the Spoils politics (i.e. Whites and White Men ought to get their "fair share" and not get excluded) on the basis of Affirmative Action and the Spendulus forbidding White Men from profiting. Along with Welfare. A compelling counter-portrait of Big Government existing to Punish White Men (especially) and reward Blacks and Hispanics economically is potent stuff in a recession. Because it is true and everyone knows it. Holder, Reich, and Obama unleashed this, and IMHO will regret it deeply. [Particularly since by all measures of popular culture, Whites are not racist and deeply resent being called it.] Posted by: whiskey at February 18, 2009 05:03 PM (L03mw) 85
... and we have a government of dickwads and idiots when it comes to talking about pretty much anything. Posted by: Mister Tan at February 18, 2009 05:04 PM (0KuYt) 86
71 Is he saying that whitey should start using the N-word again?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks When does the Blazing Saddles/Richard Pryor concert movie retrospective being? Posted by: ClosetCoward at February 18, 2009 05:05 PM (vAu1O) 87
whiskey at February 18, 2009 05:03 PM (L03mw) But I thought living in a triracial nation is a great thing! Posted by: jaleach at February 18, 2009 05:07 PM (gHrZU) 88
#41 Oh my god Kestral!! you must have been near the end of the internets for that one.
P.s. anybody know when White History Month is?? just asking... Posted by: PISSED at February 18, 2009 05:08 PM (9yNsI) 89
OT: I think that Ace drunkenly mistook Chris Hitchens for a hobo.
Hitchens Beaten By Syrian Thugs in Beirut /from HotAir Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 18, 2009 05:08 PM (X1/sS) 90
If you were 100% you could join the mafia, right? Soooo cloooose!
I only said I was 3/4's Sicilian. I never said I wasn't 100% Italian. The mafia has always been pretty conservative you know? Except for laws and shit like that. Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2009 05:09 PM (Q1lie) 91
If you were 100% you could join the mafia, right? Soooo cloooose!
No, he could join, but he could never become a "made man." Posted by: Milesdei at February 18, 2009 05:10 PM (ACHxk) 92
OMG, and we laughed when the nuts on the conspiracy sites said we would end u paying reparations.
Posted by: veritas at February 18, 2009 05:10 PM (zplc6) 93
blow it out your ass Holder. The only cowards here is you and Zero, you prick
Posted by: assholes at February 18, 2009 05:10 PM (hphNR) 94
Wow. My first reaction was to get on here and just blast away at Holder's ignorance. But, y'all have beat me to it, so all I can do is echo some of the sentiments I've just read;
Fuck off Holder What an asshole Pull your head out of your ass Stupid ignorant race baiting cocksuker There, I'm starting to feel a little better. Tony Posted by: Tony at February 18, 2009 05:14 PM (F26eZ) 95
Just in time .. a cartoon thats racial .. http://www.nypost.com/delonas/2009/02/02182009.jpg .. or is it ? Can we talk ? Posted by: Neo at February 18, 2009 05:16 PM (Yozw9) 96
#41 Sadly, I expect the only time Obama ever held a gun in his own hands in his life was as a toy. Posted by: Teleprompter Messiah at February 18, 2009 05:16 PM (4J4oK) 97
I have this image of Holder and His O-liness fist-bumping and spouting Eddie Murphy's "worst nightmare" line from "48 Hours."
Posted by: Jazz at February 18, 2009 05:18 PM (hnq5i) 98
#95 FAT AL Sharpton is alllll over it already...
Posted by: PISSED at February 18, 2009 05:20 PM (9yNsI) Posted by: PISSED at February 18, 2009 05:21 PM (9yNsI) 100
On second thought, if this gets Amos 'n' Andy back on tv maybe this discussion thingy wouldn't be so bad. That's the type of thing you meant, right Eric?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 18, 2009 05:21 PM (Xgw3v) 101
My favorite part of the article is that blacks were only allowed to start voting a few decades ago. Few has always meant two, at the most three. So, African Americans were only allowed to start voting in '78 or '88?
Posted by: Dr. Evil at February 18, 2009 05:22 PM (9xg1W) 102
Why is it, Mr. Holder, that we as a Nation only seem to want to recognize in our Universities, government offices and elsewhere black people and no other race at all? Anybody else notice President's Day being celebrated a whole lot more this year than last? I do...wonder why. Is it because white Presidents don't deserve notice? Asshole. Posted by: Sen. Gov. E. Buzz Miller, PhD at February 18, 2009 05:23 PM (sf4Oe) 103
As the saying goes, "Guilty dog barks first". How many whites do YOU associate with on the weekends Mr Holder? That's what I thought, a$$hole. Do as I say, not as I do - he's learning from the king, President Hap-a-blab...I mean, Obama. Posted by: Joycer at February 18, 2009 05:23 PM (h6qju) 104
I really don't understand the mixture of guilt and fear which the
typical white American feels over the topic of race. That includes
white conservatives. Maybe especially white conservatives.
Fuck that. I tell my students straight up that the reason western Europeans traveled the world spreading their culture, language, and values is because they could. I never apologize for western imperialism and colonialism--the "peaceful indigenous peoples of the world" were killing, raping, maiming, torturing, and selling each other into slavery. When Columbus arrived he found a bunch of primitive fuckwits who had developed neither written language nor the use of the wheel, but if they had compasses, sextants, maps, ships, and guns, they'd have been doing unto others exactly what the Euros did to them. Yeah, I feel bad about the Indians, but that was just the way it was back in the day. Will to power baby. Because they could. And they did. With the result that I don't have to go out into my yard and shit in a hole; I have indoor plumbing, and medicine, and this nifty electronic computing device that allows me to transmit my thoughts to morons worldwide. These and innumerable other benefits are enjoyed by people everywhere thanks to the Western European cultural and intellectual tradition. Posted by: Milesdei at February 18, 2009 05:24 PM (ACHxk) 105
Oh, and Holder can suck my Western European balls.
Posted by: Milesdei at February 18, 2009 05:28 PM (ACHxk) 106
When the PC crowd and the race baiters say they want to talk about race or that we should sit down and have an open discussion what that means is hey whitey, sit there in that chair and let me tell you how guilty you are.
Then Im going to tell you what you owe me because you are guity.
Hes right about one thing. A lot of the whiteys out there are cowards. We should all stand up at the race lectures and then tell them to get fucked because we are tired of hearing bull shit.
Slavery ended 150 years ago so there are no blacks left in this country who are slaves. Gov school segregation ended 45 years ago so there are no blacks who are segregated in schools.
99% of the racism left in society today is perpetrated by blacks. Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2009 05:29 PM (f6os6) 107
Eric Holder, eat shit and die bitch.
Posted by: usmc8511 at February 18, 2009 05:34 PM (lzwRt) 108
I think whenever these idiots make statements like this, we should always respond with: "link or it didn't happen"
Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 18, 2009 05:37 PM (gIga4) 109
Holder is right--I'm a coward about race. I won't tell a black American what I think about his race. Because what I think about black America isn't very pretty, and it's thoroughly backed by inconveniently non-PC statistics.
This nation has wasted untold billions trying to elevate an unwilling, resentful minority. No one will acknowledge the failure, save for chip-on-my-shoulder types like Eric Holder, beneficiary of Lord only knows how much indulgence, fiscal largesse, and nervous dissembling, who alludes periodically and conveniently--like his contemporaries--to white America's guilt. Larry Bird, it was said, would be just another forward if he were black. Eric Holder would be doing wills and estates in Indianapolis if he were white. If by paying a one-time fee of slave reparations would either a) incontrovertibly guarantee in perpetuity black ownership and commitment to changing their parlous, pathetic, self-inflicted collective racial suicide, or b) ensure prompt, fair repatriation, I'd take a second job to support the effort. That's not boasting. Posted by: railwriter at February 18, 2009 05:39 PM (XcsD4) 110
LOL! And it comes full circle. This site was at the front lines, disparaging any who tried to warn what would, and has, happened if a black, other than the proverbial few like Sowell, et al, was elected. Now AOS is outraged? Drew can't believe it? LOL again. I told you that blacks hate whites, and that don't just mean "ghetto" blacks.
We were told that stereotypes are bad bad bad! Drew said "don't generalize, you racist!" This sounds awfully close to generalizing, doesn't it - "...My idea of a truly groundbreaking speech would involve a Cosbyesque riff on some of the real causes of white resentment, starting first and foremost with rampant BLACK criminality and anti-social behavior, and BLACKS' acceptance of this as not only acceptable but justified -- perhaps even obligatory -- given past and current racial discrimination..." (My caps. Oh, and before you keep Cosby up on the pedestal he's been given, don't forget his "brotha light" comment about Clarence Thomas, a TRUE American hero...) And he's right - "blacks" as in collectively, DO find criminal and anti-social behavior, acceptable, and justified. Everyone agrees that liberals are/ have ruined this once great country. They agree that the things liberals vote for have no place in America. Well, blacks vote liberal 90 - 95% of the time. You do the math. Is every single black bad, a white-hater, a liberal? No. But the vast majority love intimidating, and beating the shit out of idiot whites with the giant chip they carry around, and like children throwing a tantrum, they get/ got what they want. One more time - reparations, anyone? Posted by: JS at February 18, 2009 05:41 PM (HzzwH) 111
#84: Like I said, 2010 can be even better than 1994 if we just get our act together now. What Holder is basically saying is Heads His Side Wins, Tails Your Side Loses. Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2009 05:42 PM (ujg0T) 112
All you cracka-ass racists who didn't vote for Obama gonna pay. I told you:
Always Bet On Black. Posted by: Empire of Wesley Snipes at February 18, 2009 05:44 PM (bu0Ek) Posted by: Morris Dees at February 18, 2009 05:50 PM (Ohodx) 114
If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all. Its not just advice anymore, its the law.
Posted by: post-apocalyptic hobo hunters at February 18, 2009 05:50 PM (PD1tk) 115
"Holder is trying to bait non-blacks into honestly expressing themselves so that they can be labeled "racist" and destroyed. Nothing in this country has changed. I'm not taking the bait. Holder can shove his invitation. Its a trap." Bingo. Posted by: another dime-a-dozen white male engineer at February 18, 2009 05:50 PM (V40IZ) 116
>>Everyone agrees that liberals are/ have ruined this once great country. They agree that the things liberals vote for have no place in America. Well, blacks vote liberal 90 - 95% of the time. You do the math.<<
Don't be coy, JS. Sack up and say what you mean. Allusion is almost as pussy as stereotyping. Posted by: railwriter at February 18, 2009 05:54 PM (XcsD4) 117
"Race issues continue to be a topic of political discussion..."
Yeah, by people who can't seem to get over it. Everyone else appears to be doing fine. Posted by: GarandFan at February 18, 2009 05:55 PM (237hA) 118
As far as Holder's life experience goes, he has come in contact with COWARDS only.
In his little circle of low-lifes, they are either corrupt lawyers, corrupt politicians or corrupt lobbyists. So in his corrupt world, that's probably true. They are all COWARDS. Posted by: kasper at February 18, 2009 05:55 PM (+pMZ4) 119
"Holder said the workplace is largely integrated but Americans still self-segregate on the weekends and in their private lives."
In other words, that whole thing about freedom of association? It's cowardice, plain and simple. Obama needs to regulate our free time for the betterment of the country. So we can truly heal. Posted by: red speck at February 18, 2009 05:56 PM (6RSWl) 120
railwriter: why attack JS? It seems you and he (and I and just about everyone else here) are tired of the double standards.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2009 05:57 PM (ujg0T) 121
Why the hell did he give THIS speech anyway? Um, hello..black Pres. and black AG. That said, his premise is wrong. The more we talk about race, the more racist we become. It is my experience that all of this "we're still racist" shit makes me self conscious. I double, sometimes triple, think everything I do. Do I open the door? Do I avoid that puddle so it looks like I'm veering away or do I just walk through it? It would also help if the President did not embody many of the stereotypes generally associated with Kenyan-Hawaiians. He is filled with hate, doesn't care that his decisions will hold "his people" down, and he doesn't seem to have a good work ethic.
Posted by: outraged at February 18, 2009 05:59 PM (penCf) Posted by: JS at February 18, 2009 06:02 PM (HzzwH) 123
I'm also sick of the word "racist". It is never applied properly. Ace and Drew tried mightily to paint me with that brush. I for one, do not think that blacks are genetically inferior to whites. I do think that their behavior, is...
Posted by: JS at February 18, 2009 06:05 PM (HzzwH) 124
Should the issue of reparations arise, I suggest the gov't make a personal visit to collect my share.
Might wish to bring lunch, too. Posted by: irongrampa at February 18, 2009 06:05 PM (ud5dN) 125
My mom taught in a Columbus, OH inner city middle school. Her students put her in the ER twice and tried to lock me in a bathroom with them (daddy told me that whenever a man wants to use his balls, and you don't want them to, put their balls out of commission). Through it all, mom never used race as a description, ever. If she were talking about a student named 'Harry' and you asked her "the black one or white one" she would say "you know, the one with that cowlick."
Posted by: outraged at February 18, 2009 06:08 PM (penCf) 126
Democrats were invited to have a discussion on race in the 1850's. Democrats viewed black America as property. Democrats said that America was "founded on the white basis. It was made by the white man, for the benefit of the white man, to be administered by white men, in such manner as they should determine." As usual, Democrats were wrong. Grotesquely, horrifically wrong.
Posted by: Sam Adams at February 18, 2009 06:09 PM (1kwr2) 127
The real irony is, liberals forever call for "National Discussion About Race."
And yet the kind of PC world they have created for us will fire you in a heartbeat if you dare breath a word about it at work! Anyone that talks about does so in a hushed whisper, looking over their shoulder. We're living in a virtual state of terror, thanks to the "liberal" speech codes. So, Mr. Holder... Why don't you just shut up and kiss my hairy, pimply white ass? Posted by: CoolCzech at February 18, 2009 06:11 PM (iafWn) 128
If by paying a one-time fee of slave reparations would either a) incontrovertibly guarantee in perpetuity black ownership and commitment to changing their parlous, pathetic, self-inflicted collective racial suicide, or b) ensure prompt, fair repatriation, I'd take a second job to support the effort. That's not boasting. Frankly, if they want "reparations", give them repatriation. 40 Grand and a one way plane ticket to Cape Town. Do it now, pre Porkulus, while the dollar still has some value. Leave and don't return. Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2009 06:12 PM (ujg0T) 129
Suck my motherfucking cock, Holder.
You, and Sharpton are nothing but a couple of race baiting assholes. Posted by: UncleFacts at February 18, 2009 06:16 PM (M+Vfm) 130
The real irony is, liberals forever call for "National Discussion About Race." Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2009 06:16 PM (ujg0T) 131
I'm sure thrilled that, by electing President Huggy Bear, we have transcended all the racial divisions of the past.
Huh? You mean liberal white guilt is not only alive and well, but all you guilty white liberals who voted for Waffles are cowards to boot? How's that redemption through politics working out for y'all? Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2009 06:19 PM (v6gTb) 132
What the fuck is "goony-goo-goo?"
Posted by: Bobby Rush at February 18, 2009 06:23 PM (D/pbz) 133
"Holder said the workplace is largely integrated but Americans still self-segregate on the weekends and in their private lives."
Maybe the people he pals around with. And what pray tell, does Mr Holder make of the Congressional BLACK Caucus? Isn't that self-segregation? Or to use Democratic nuance, is that 'different'? Posted by: GarandFan at February 18, 2009 06:37 PM (237hA) 134
Btw, that doll at #41 is a bargain: The face looks like Barack Obama, but the way the clothes fit it could double as Hugo Chavez. Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2009 06:37 PM (5KNeJ) 135
I'm sure someone above already posted something like this, but I'll do it anyway because it needs to be said. I work in a large government office. My coworkers are from everywhere; Asian, Hispanic, white, black, native born and immigrants. I work with Vietnamese boat people and the kids of Vietnamese boat people. Refugees from Laos. People who escaped Central American civil wars in the 80s. People from Rwanda and Togo and South Africa. Filipinos. Russians, Azeris, Bosnians. All this in one building. The ONLY people who complain about "racism" are the blacks here. The least paid person here makes over $50,000 a year, and the upper groups make well over $100,000 a year. The chip on these peoples' shoulder is as big as Gibraltar. I'm sick of it. Other workers are sick of hearing about "racial tensions" at work that no one can see except the blacks making the complaints. I'd say 87% of America has moved beyond "racism" and doesn't give a rat's ass what you are or where "your people" came from. The remaining 13% better get with the program. This bullshit's tired. Posted by: Scott at February 18, 2009 06:41 PM (Wi1fh) 136
I thought the liberal pov was that people can do whatever they want and never have to deal with the consequences? Live beyond your means, have unprotected sex, murder, rape, riot . .. why would they want someone to pay for what someone else did, a long time ago?
Posted by: estee at February 18, 2009 06:43 PM (xlYqZ) Posted by: John Adams at February 18, 2009 06:52 PM (cWg6W) 138
We have our first "affirmative action president" why doesn't he do away with "affirmative action" and have everyone compete on a level playing field and let the chips fall where they may.
Posted by: veritas at February 18, 2009 06:53 PM (zplc6) 139
Haters.
Posted by: Colin Powell at February 18, 2009 06:59 PM (KZKfb) 140
Mr Holder: I did not choose my parents. I did not choose my race. Never owned slaves. With that being said. Fuck Off.
Posted by: wildman at February 18, 2009 07:03 PM (AJ0mr) 141
Fuck you Holder.
Posted by: folatio at February 18, 2009 07:05 PM (mkoY7) 142
Yeah, I'm ready to talk about race. Say, how come so many black men shirk their responsibilties by impregnating women then bailing on their offspring like cowardly little pussies? What's the black illegitimacy rate, like 80%? I'm ready to talk about that. When we're done we can talk about black crime. Sure seems to be a lot of it. Posted by: Warden at February 18, 2009 07:08 PM (QoR4a) 143
Why did 95% of blacks vote against the white guy? Are they racists? We should talk about that. I'm ready for these kinds of dialogues. Posted by: Warden at February 18, 2009 07:10 PM (QoR4a) 144
Two posts in a row about racism? OK, what is this a subterfuge for? Sort of like when you happen upon a "scene" in a big city and several people find their wallets missing.
Posted by: oh oh at February 18, 2009 07:11 PM (zplc6) 145
Anytime I want someone to open up to me I call them a coward, and then bingo they can't wait to tell me what they really think.
I triple endorse the observation that the last thing anyone should be talking about in public is race...worse than religion, or sex. Don't do it. It will not end well.
The AA measures should be dropped, there is no reason for them now. Posted by: ford at February 18, 2009 07:15 PM (Ki7fm) 146
Farakan, the Jacksons, Sharpon, most of Obama's crowd (black and white) and all the other professional race-baiters, of which there are many in Congress, have done one hell of a lot more to hurt black people than I ever did. And I have male ancestors who didn't talk about freeing black people, they fucking died fucking doing it. And that's why I don't want to talk about racism, black folks. But check back with me when you quit following con artists who tell you that you aren't responsible for your own life. Maybe then as just Americans we can work together on fighting the real racism that exists in many places in the world. And by the way, shitloads of honorable black men and women are doing just that in the US armed forces... I'm talking to those of you who think you are a victim that is owed something special. Get over it - you are being sold a bill of goods and living a lie! Posted by: sherlock at February 18, 2009 07:16 PM (jdXw+) 147
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Dude, I wish I could have had you for a teacher...
Posted by: CMS2004 at February 18, 2009 07:19 PM (ALA0+) 148
what fucking bubble do these people live in? holder you could be fucking lime green and 98% of people wouldn't give a shit but you would still be an asshole. thank god february is only 28 days. i can't take any more of this garbage. Posted by: unamerican hate mongering evil libertarian aka e.koenig at February 18, 2009 07:24 PM (2J+Vs) 149
thank god february is only 28 days. i can't take any more of this garbage. Sadly, this february is going to last for at least four years. Maybe, God forbid, eight. Posted by: jaleach at February 18, 2009 07:28 PM (gHrZU) 150
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Dude, I wish I could have had you for a teacher... Anyone else read this and get a mental image of Sam Kinnison as a history teacher in Back To School? "Is
she right? 'Cause I know that's the *popular* version of what went on
there. And a lot of people like to believe that. I wish I could, but I
was *there*. I wasn't here in a class room, hoping I was right,
thinking about it. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 18, 2009 07:30 PM (U7TcP) Posted by: railwriter at February 18, 2009 07:37 PM (XcsD4) 152
I want to talk about the racists who ordered armed federal agents to break into the home of Cuban immigrants to kidnap a 6-year-old and deport him to one of the most repressive tyrannies in the world. Wanna have that discussion of race, Holder? What an asshole.
Posted by: Reiver at February 18, 2009 07:37 PM (ySLG7) 153
This made me so angry. Here's what I wrote to Diane Finstein and plan to write to others as well. Dear Ms. Feinstein: RE: RACE-ERIC HOLDER CLAIMING WE'RE "RACIAL COWARDS." MY TAKE: Okay, we have a mixed-race president. ERIC HOLDER holds power and in (case he's still on Planet Earth), we have black people in govermnent, black CEOs, black teachers and black talk show hosts (KGO included). While I understand there are still race issues: Don't beat it to death (just like Ellen Degeneres and her Gay issue)....everybody got so sick of hearing about it, people were so thoroughly repulsed, they didn't want to hear anything more about it. ???Is that the desired outcome??? If things were still that bad, Eric Holder and Obama, (many white people voted for him but you wouldn't know that from Eric Holder), would have never gotten where they are at now...or Clarence Thomas or Taliafaro of KGO. NOW FOR RACISM: 3. And while we're at it: RETURN GERONIMO's Bones held either at Fort Sill and/or the Skull/Bones Society in New Haven Connecticut at Yale University to his descendents (especially Harlyn) with their desire to bury the remains in the Gila Mountains! How's that for racism? Sincerely, (P.S., I have a black manager) and I have black friends..I married a Latino and the family I'm in has Latino, Dutch-Filipino and black and American Indian.----I also voted for CYNTHIA MCKINNEY (who I think is NOT beholden to the CFR, Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs and the Rothschilds/Rockefellers)._______I would have voted for either Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin but I didn't see their names or a write-in so I voted for CYNTHIA MCKINNEY (who I also believe would have never gotten where she is if "racism" was indeed still that bad).
ADDENDUM: Would he also care to address: And that anyone who opposes ILLEGAL ALIENS & SUPPORTS SOVEREIGNITY of this nation are called: "Racists, Xenophobes, Nativists, etc?" While he's at it, he should explore the idea of AZTLAN/ANAHUAC from: 1. La Raza.
Posted by: Roxan at February 18, 2009 08:17 PM (4Y7xd) 154
The former USAG must have been the most effective in history. All he left Holder to worry about is a freakin cartoon. Actually Holder is a cartoon character himself.
Posted by: Scrapiron at February 18, 2009 08:29 PM (GkYyh) 155
We are also slothful and lazy. Just ask Michelle Obama.
Posted by: Lily at February 18, 2009 08:37 PM (gIQ7K) 156
Holy Shit! Why didn't we think of this before? Let's create an
African-American Studies department in our school to "explore" these
"issues" and "raise awareness."
As a general rule of thumb, any college major/department with the word "studies" in its title is bullshit. Posted by: Ombudsman at February 18, 2009 08:37 PM (fWF4Q) 157
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