1 And 1 Present!

2 At least we know who "owns" it.

3 Someone voted 'present'? We have a mini-Obama in the making, folks

4 Just shows how impotent republicans are.

5 Ha, IC, you beat me to the punch.  Present, really!?  No shame.  Maybe it's a procedural thing.  Bye-Bye private sector. 

6 How soon before Democrat bureaucrats get to decide whether I can live or die under their Healthcare system?

7 So bipartisan house opposition?

8 Uh, lorien1973 (4)?  It's a side-effect of having 176 members in a legislative body where you need 218 to get anything done.

You know that, right?

9

I think I'm going to celebrate by selling stocks. If only I had employees I could fire a few. Oh, I know, I can fire the guy that mows my lawn.

10 You need a new graphic for this stuff.

Maybe a $1 trillion bill with Obama's ears on the front and a blank check on the back - alternate which side you put up with each new shovel-ready blackhole.

11 I ownder if The One will tout the "bipartisanship" of the NO vote?

12 At least the House Republicans held the line, now if only the Senate Republicans would grow some balls, especially those 3 asstards traitors.

13 BOHICA, we are so screwed.

14 It seems they are actually embracing their Pork-Bloated Monstrous overlords.

15 @2 At least we know who "owns" it.

Brotha Please. You know it's gonna get at least 2 republican votes for the final passage, and will be heralded forever more as "Bipartisan", with any blame for the complete collapse being spread evenly. Well, except for it all being Bush's fault in the first place.

16 Just shows how impotent republicans are.

Uh, lorien1973 (4)?  It's a side-effect of having 176 members in a legislative body where you need 218 to get anything done.

You know that, right?

What he said.  Maybe lori thinks the Pubs should've pulled guns and taken hostages. 

17

No Republican votes ?  WOW....I didn't know my Rep (Castle-DE) had it in him...he was rumoured to be one who would cave.

He may run for Senator in 2010 for Biden's seat.  He'll get my support based on this vote alone.

18 Who are the seven dems who opposed? We should all send them an email saying thanks for standing up for the right thing even though it probably hurt them with their party.

19 Two Republicans didn't vote?  How does that work?

20 Yeah, well since Pelosi held on to every globule of fat for dear life, what could the GOP members do?

Here's hoping for a filibuster.

21

What he said.  Maybe lori thinks the Pubs should've pulled guns and taken hostages. 

I like that idea, why didn't they?

22 Maybe lori thinks the Pubs should've pulled guns and taken hostages.

Say what, now?  Taken us where?

23 I wonder how many "Obama-cans" come away from this fight remembering why they they became conservatives and republicans in the first place. My guess is lots.

24

Well, that'll turn things around in a jiffy Im sure

25

Anyone seen H.R.-645, which calls for the construction of "military civilian detention camps", to be used for detaining American civilians during a "national emergency"?

The author of this piece of shit is corrupt Florida Congressman Alcee Hastings (D-Impeached).

I've tried e-mailing Ace about this several times now, and can't get through.

Couple this legislation with their Blair Holt Firearms Licensing Act, and it's pretty easy to see where we're headed.

I'm with Patrick Henry. Praise God, and pass the ammunition.

26

My ass is starting to hurt from all this stimulus.

27

Begala blamed the republicans for denying the recession and obstructing and delaying this bill

In the comments section the moonbats were going crazy.  One even said that all the republicans that vote no on this bill should be guilty of treason.  That is pretty consistent with the democrat form of democracy; everybody gets an oppinion/vote as long as it is the same as our oppinion.

Not one of them acknowledged that the democrats don't need a single fucking republican vote to pass porkulous.

BTW: the republicans that Begala noted as deniers were congressional and senatorial heavy hitters Bill O'Reily and Karl Rove.  I also belive the quotes he used from them were from June.

28 Posted by: DocJ at February 13, 2009 02:33 PM (g8ibn)

Yep. I know how math works. Thanks for the tip though. It's just funny that every republican voting no still makes it a blow out.

If the republicans were capable of making an argument up there, you'd think more than 7 democrats - especially since lots of them people come from formely red districts could be switched.

Their opposition, while cute, isn't very coherent, obviously.

29 Is this an all out war against our messiah by the EVIL Republicans?!?!?

30

"What he said.  Maybe lori thinks the Pubs should've pulled guns and taken hostages."

yes.

call me what you want, i don't care...

 

31 Didn't Bambi promise 15 Republicans would vote for this?

32 The Dems own this bill -- they are going to eat, swallow it, regurgitate it, barf it up, and eat it back down again, and no doubt, choke on it.

2010/12 can't come any sooner.

33 #16-"-Maybe the Pubs should have pulled guns and taken hostages."

Works for me!  Maybe we could make sure some of our Senators are armed when their turn to vote comes today?  While they can still have guns, that is.

34

Brotha, Please.

Actually, you're right, Terry. And if not through "bipartisan both sides own it" crap, then in waiting a year or so there will probably be a plurality of Americans who think that the Republicans still control both Houses, just like they wrongly believed that was the case since 2006. So I guess the GOP will have to remind the public continually about who the majority party is.

35 OBAMA LIED, AMERICA DIED

36

Nice on the GOP for doing something.

Now...you fuckers better keep it up...

37 Huh, maybe DeFazio got my email heh...

38 The media minions will now begin to talk up the economy...mark my words.

39 What was all that bullshit from the kos kids about Boosh ruling through the "politics of fear"?  Isn't that EXACTLY what Pelosi, Reid, and Obama have done to ram this thing through without a single American having read the entire bill?

"We have to act now, or we're all going to die!"
- lefty moron, who in no way believes in the politics of fear.

40 Christopher, I bet it wasn't socialist enough for him.

41 5 no shows?

42 28.

Yeah, sure - the Republicans could have presented God-Himself to tell said Democrats the Spendulus wouldn't work and it still wouldn't have persuaded at least 40 of them to toss Zero under the bus on this.

Go gloat somewhere else.

43 @34 So I guess the GOP will have to remind the public continually about who the majority party is.


Except we know they won't. If I've learned anything over the last year, it's that our elected republicans have no will to fight. They're not in it to serve the people.. they won the lottery for the Best Job Ever, and they are not about to do anything would limit the number of junkets or cocktail parties or lobbiest paid vacations they can soak up.

44 26
My ass is starting to hurt from all this stimulus.

Well, Joe Lieberman is up there comparing it to prodding a frog... and he means it in a good way!

45 this had to be done, Queen Bug-Eyes has a dinner date in Milan... No Scarifice too Great for the Unicorn Collective!

46 Those 3 fuckwits in the Senate better vote "No."

It also shows what a lie the "Blue Dog Democrats" is.  Not one of them will vote "No" tonight in the Senate.

These are the same douches who would never vote for an Assault Weapons Ban.

Yeah, right.

Toe that fuckin' line.

47

Oh, God.  Nancy's on TV.  I'm gonna start drinking early today.

At least they won't have any political cover when this thing doesn't work.  Of course our kids will be broke.  She just said "the biggest tax cut in history." Lying bitch.

48 Queen Bug-Eyes has a dinner date in Milan.

Hopefully she will choke on her calamari.

49 What with Pelosi needing a vote by today so she could catch her plane I was hoping for a filibuster, just long enough to either make her cancel (which her ego wouldn't allow) or shut down the bill for the eight days she is gone. Give the public time to actually a) read the damn thing, which no one has done and b) hate it more.

50 On the bright side, Mrs. Pelosi has enough time to get to the airport.

*headdesk*

51 Excuse me if this has been answered, any word on Clyburn abstaining?

52
Uh-OH!

Rush just said he hopes this fails and "hopes this bill will prolong the recession."

So that will be the topic for the MSM/Dems this weekend. Nothing about the substance about the government boondoggle of a wasteful spending spree, but all about how Rush Limbaugh and the Republicans want America to fail.

Mark my words.

53 Alex -

That's the senate.  There's no parliamentary procedure to stop anything in the House.  Besides, the Republicans have been short-circuited out of any consideration in the house.  They have no reason to show up.

54 Honestly, how difficult would it be to run a full page add with say, the top 10 offending wasteful expenditures in the bill, or put together some radio and tv commercials.

It would be so easy, that not doing it just shows that none of them care, including the RNC.

It's all bullshit, and we all so very, very fucked.

55

Sam Adams,

Looked over H.R.-645 and it's not exactly what you proport it to be.  Not saying it couldn't be used to do what you're saying, but let's try to stick with the bullshit on our shoes and not look for shit that isn't there ... yet.

56

@34 So I guess the GOP will have to remind the public continually about who the majority party is.

Hell, half the Liberals still must think Bush is President from all their incessant bitching and whining about "Bush did this" and "Bush did that".

57 Hey I've started "channeling" Alec Baldwin!

"It's time to get the hell out of this country."

Oh wait, I don't think I even believe in physic powers, maybe it's just me.

The End of The Republic is Nigh. Here.

58

Hey, doesn't Monty Burns have a trillion dollar bill?

Oh, that's right, he foolishly let Fidel Castro take a quick look at it. Thought I was on to something there.

59 Brian-I guess you're right. And I think we all know how far a cry for a filibuster in the Senate would last.....

60

I e-mailed the Penn fuckstick senator a said that I am hoarding money and PTO to throw at his opponent, I care not if their a D or R.

Sadly, that means I may be supporting Matthews to defeat Spectre. What fucked up times these are!

61 Ha! My Congressman (DeFazio) voted against. Good for him.

No, he's not a conservative Democrat. He's reliably left on pretty much every other issue, and he'd probably vote for the spendulus if the vote count was close and his vote was needed.. But he's got a bug up his ass about federal spending, and it's the only reason why he's not completely insufferable.

62 The Dow is still negative. Shouldn't there have been a rebound in the market because porkzilla passed? What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

63 I guess Obama's promise for openness and transparency must have already expired.  This is the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

64 Any idea when the Senate will vote? Right now, later this afternoon, or evening?

65 #6 -- Thursday.

66 @62 What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

didn't you hear? the market isn't an indicator any more!

67 Their opposition, while cute, isn't very coherent, obviously.


Every Republican votes no, and that's not coherent?

68 @62 What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

My guess, the stimulus bill wasn't big enough.

69
What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

"Financial Markets Disappointed In GOP Partisanship"

70

From bloomberg.com:

The 1,400-page stimulus plan would provide a half-trillion dollars for jobless benefits, renewable energy projects, highway construction, food stamps, broadband, Pell college tuition grants, high-speed rail projects and scores of other programs. It would raise the nation’s debt limit to about $12 trillion.

Democrats released the text of the plan late last night, prompting complaints from Republicans they didn’t have enough time to review the legislation before voting on it.

“Not one member has read this,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner, an Ohio Republican.

71

Man, I can almost feel that $13 burning a hole in my pocket!

My own personal recession is over!

72

#62,

If the DOW is down, it's because even porkulus wasn't big enough to fix W's mistakes.

If the DOW is up, it's because "The hope of the quick passage of the Spendulus, um, the stimulus package raised the mood of Wall Street, which closed up for the day". 

73 What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

Market Tanks On Divisive Stand By Republican's.

74

Every Republican votes no, and that's not coherent?

No means Yes!
 

 

75
I have to agree that the Republicans are being specific enough in their oppostion. Saying it's "Too big" is not good enough. Saying "it might no be much help or create many jobs" is not good enough.

They need to say, in no uncertain terms, that this bill is going to cost million of jobs in the private sector and make this recession into a depression, because that's what it's gonna do.

The influx of all this cash will give a short, false bump in the economy and then it's all going to fall apart -- energy prices, layoffs, inflation, interest rates, etc.

76 "What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?"

Obama delivers on Campaign promise to keep greedy businessmen in check.

77 The MSM Headline is hilarious!  About a third down the page:  "House" OKs $787 stimulus package, with a photo of "beaming" Pelosi to the left of it.  Didn't somebody here mention the Dems signing some "loyalty" agreement?  The number can't be a typo, that's pretty much the worth of the package.

78 And. Here. We. Go.
down 76

Although pretty light volume. Could snap back.

79 Seriously, who voted "present"?

80

"What's the matter, can't you read 1400 pages in an evening, you evil white Republican!!!!"

The media is a sick fucking joke.

81 @43  you are right.  The repubs will not really fight any of this, they are just happy to be there. 

82 Although pretty light volume. Could snap back.

My guess is that it will end higher - maybe +75 or so and all of the credit will be given to the Lightworker.

83 @66  didn't you hear? the market isn't an indicator any more!

It shouldn't be - not today, anyway.  I mean, turn that around:  What if the markets end up today?  Wouldn't make this stimpack any less insane.  There are some technical indicators that suggest it should end the week up, too.  Give it at least a week.

84 They need to say, in no uncertain terms, that this bill is going to cost million of jobs

That and have an opposition bill in hand. Going on offense without a coherent bill based on tax cuts seems like stupid way of getting the public behind you. If we're going to throw rotten fruit at the main act, we better have an bearded, trick shooting, contortionist in our sideshow.

85 I bet it wasn't socialist enough for him.

Possibly, or he's with Feinstein and the tax cuts are too much to bear.

86

If the republicans were capable of making an argument up there, you'd think more than 7 democrats - especially since lots of them people come from formely[sic] red districts could be switched.

So, would the converse apply as well, the part about Dems not being able to "talk" one single GOP rep over to their obviously clearly-reasoned position?

Or was that not really an argument?

I'm going with "B" on this.

87 Wow, the Donks in the House passed the spendulus budget again and gained 3 whole votes! And all that after Reid & Teh Obamessiah asked 'em to cut it back a bit, too. Nice to see the Wicked Witch of the West COast is such a good team player.

AoSHQ to Democrats: you bitches STILL own that mess!

88 Shoulda known that that Jugear's cum-gargling cunt McCaskill would vote for it....

Bitch.  Hope you slide under a gas truck and taste your own blood.

89

As the bill was doomed to pass anyway I think that all of the Republicans should have voted present as a tribute to Obama's time as a state legislator and show of bipartisanship.

90 How did it pass with all the evil Republican obstructionism?

91 @89 I think that all of the Republicans should have voted present as a tribute to Obama's time as a state legislator and show of bipartisanship.

Now See?! that right there is some Good Shit! Why Not do something like that? What do you possibly have to lose? What a bunch of pussies.

92 Yeah, sure - the Republicans could have presented God-Himself to tell said Democrats the Spendulus wouldn't work and it still wouldn't have persuaded at least 40 of them to toss Zero under the bus on this.


Democrats haven't listened to My words for years. Why do you expect them to listen to Me now?

93 I know many of us here may be comfy with our prosperous American lifestyle, and things are just not sufficiently bad to rebel, but rebel we must. And now, before we have no leverage (i.e. no job, no house, no where with all to pay taxes).

Starve this monster.

There really may be no choice after it passes in the senate to do anything (barring armed insurrection) other than a massive tax revolt on 4/15/09.

To be effective, all in disagreement with this bill must stand together and revolt.
The consequenses? Governmental confiscation of your assets.  At least it will occur overnight instead of the death by 10,000 lashes this bill ensures.

I am afraid, in spite of our protests, we do not possess the gumption.

94
I can't sum up this bill in one word: Jobs. Shit.

95 we better have an bearded, trick shooting, contortionist in our sideshow.

LauraW?

96

(CNSNews.com) – Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) predicted on Thursday that none of his Senate colleagues would "have the chance" to read the entire final version of the $790-billion stimulus bill before the bill comes up for a final vote in Congress.

“No, I don’t think anyone will have the chance to [read the entire bill],” Lautenberg told CNSNews.com.

 

Read the entire bill? The Dims won't even get past page 1.

97

What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

Bush lied?

But seriously, notice how poor Obama has to suffer from vicious obstructism by his opponents, while GWB always had the honor of being opposed by that most honorable of motives, principled dissent!  Funny how that happens.

98

Well, on the bright side...when I'm old and someone asks me if I remember when it all went to shit, I can point to this day on the calendar.

 

99

What will be the spin if the market ends up down for the day?

"Financial Markets Disappointed In GOP Partisanship"
 

We have a winner!!!!

100 LauraW?

I think she tried out for the part but the hump got in the way.

101

7850.41 -82.35 (-1.04%) 

Porkzilla or Spendzilla, we report, you decide!

102 Tell our Senators to vote Present instead of No.

103 mark 64 - apparently its set for 5:30ish tonight.

104

Dear Mr. DeFazio,

As you are my representative (that I have never voted for) I am pleased to see that you voted no on this obscene insult to the American people.  Since I have witnessed your voting record in the past, I am quite certain that you voted against it for all the wrong reasons.  Still you voted NO and that is good enough for me.

Instead of my weekly tradition of telling you to "Go Fuck Yourself", I have temporarily upgraded your status and my new message is "Thanks for not Fucking Up too bad this week"

Regards,

Lemmiwinks

P.S.:  Thanks again for that stupid fucking $17 million dollar pedestrian bridge across I-5 to the Gateway Mall that no-one ever uses. It goes nicely with your collection of other stupid fucking pedestrian bridges and bike paths that nobody ever uses.

105

And the spin on the down market is:

 

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks retreated in wobbly trading Friday as investors itched for more specifics on how the U.S. government will prop up the slumping housing market and fractured financial system.

 

So that's the problem with the market. Itchy investors.

 

106 Listening to the Senate debate on C-SPAN.  Chuckie Shumer is a lying cockholster.

107 If Heath Shuler doesn't watch it, he's gonna get a spanking from Pelosi. Not the erotic kind, lucky for him.

108 I wonder if Nazi Pelosi will try and impress the Pope with her intimate knowledge of Church doctrine during her Rome trip.

109 #108, thanks for the laugh, I needed one after this week.

110

She's going to Rome, because she is Italian, and that's why she's going to Rome.

Because she's Italian...

She's going to Rome.

God is she an idiot.

111 According to Drudge... nobody in the house had a copy of the bill, just portions. Nobody read it. Nobody debated the actual bill.

112 Where do you get a copy of this bill? Is it online, can we download it?

113

I guess I can't wait to be able to say: "Because of the Obama failures of the last eight years..."

114 IC, Malkin seems to have a link to it, in the lead story.

115 Granny Rictus?

I'd hit it...   with an aborted fetus!1!!11!

116 dow closed at -82.41 (1.04%). if the spendulous didn't pass the loss would have been -824.10, so put a fuckin smile on your pasty faces...bitches

117

I know I've said this before many times and I'm sure some people are getting tired of it, but we need to do all we can to cause Obama's plans to fail. For those of you who say this is wanting the country to fail all I have to say is the Dems and Obama are not the country.

First switch to cash only, cut up any credit cards and go with an envelope system. It works people. If you have any big purchases coming up start setting aside cash for them.

Try and find friends who have skills you need and trade work or pay them in cash. Find a nieghbor who knows plumbing or is an electrician, you would be suprised how much you can save doing it this way as opposed to having a company guy come in and do it.

Stay home. Seriously don't go out, have house parties or visit friends. You would be suprised how much fun you can have with a twelve pack of beer and a  board game. Don't go to the movies. They hate us any way why give them money. Read a book.

If we on the right pull out of the economy as much as possible the Dems plans will fail all that much sooner. They depend on us busting our butts to make their plans work. If we don't this will fall apart.

If you look at it over 50% of the home loans that have been redone are already in forclosure again. The vast majority of people on their side will only take from the system they will not contribute so if we stop the whole thing will come crashing down.

118 Wow, how many Oregonians do we have on this site?

119

Each of us can be our own John Galt.

120

This time, all Republican and 7 Democratic Representatives voted "no". This is an interesting change.

My guess is that the 3 Republican Senators and possibly 1 or 2 Democratic Senators are now having second thoughts about spending $800bilion (that does not exist), particularly in light of the stated intention to spend even more later.

I bet that more than a few Representatives and Senators are starting to (finally) question the financial wisdom of spending this titanic amount of money, and at the order (no reasoning / facts, just orders) of a man who’s already spent $190million and failed to achieve anything.

Anyone giving odds that the Spendulus fails to pass the Senate?

121 dow closed at -82.41 (1.04%).


The market to watch will be Monday, when "the one" signs Americas death warrant.

122 Completely and utterly off-topic, but...this week's sign that Britain is a completely lost cause:

http://tinyurl.com/adwye6

123

@55 Mastour:

This legislation is offered by the political party which supports

a) the destruction of America's anti-terrorism intelligence apparatus,

b) the withdrawal of charges against our Islamofascist Gitmo guests,

c) the defeat of our forces in Iraq,

d) the silencing of conservative talk radio

and

e) the complete elimination of our 2nd Amendment rights.

If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, go right ahead.

 

124

Dan Lipinski, the vacuum-skull that voted present, is the poster child for Chicago-style Donk nepotism. His dad Bill, after winning the primary for reelection, had his kid Dan put on the ballot instead. Dan's the kind of guy who can't count to 21 without getting arrested for indecent exposure. I mean, check out his official picture:

 

http://tinyurl.com/cchyld

 

125 Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee
but the levee was dry
and good old boys were drinking whiskey & rye
singing this will be the day AMERICA DIED............

126 The market to watch will be Monday

Closed Monday. Options are expiring next week so there's a good chance for a pop up.

127
"First switch to cash only, cut up any credit cards and go with an envelope system. It works people. If you have any big purchases coming up start setting aside cash for them."

This is about a right as rain – I can tell you personally that a cash based household budget does work and will save you a fortune over the long run. Another thing not mentioned was to aggressively de-leverage as fast as possible (i.e. all consumer debt, save home mortgage) and put together about 3-6 mos. of living expenses for an emergency. I don’t know if the above will affect the macro economy but what it will do is allow the your household to weather fluctuations (or crashes) in the macro economy.

128

Wow, how many Oregonians do we have on this site?

Pretty much every conservative in Oregon is on this site.  So I'm guessing 5 of us?

129 If any of your morons have the opportunity, Tom Coburn is speaking on the Senate floor right now and he is magnificent.  Fuck, I am stuck with Kennedy and Kerry and instead of a smart, sensible, principled guy like Coburn.

130 There are a crapload of conservatives in Oregon, just none in Portland or Eugene.

131 Listening to Coburn on CSPAN.  Why hasn't he been out in front of the media the past two weeks?  Of course, the assumes that the MSM really wants to interview a Republican other than the three traitors who voted yes on the last vote....

132 Coburn is knocking one out of the park with this speech!  Truly inspiring!!

133 Lipinski would have been better served to have voted NO. But he didn't and Pelosi will exact her revenge regardless.

Lipinski's is right on point about "buy American". There is a California State project that has CHINESE steel in it. Worse yet the imported steel was welded in China and the CHINESE welds are shit. Much coverupperage is ensuing after the whistleblowage. Now we already had the same scenario in regards to cassion work on domestic welds in the Bay bridge project. But when you are dealing with a entity an ocean away you are dealing at a disadvantage out of the gate.

Regardless of party though, under the flag of "fair trade" American jobs have been eviserated. This will handicap efforts to re-build the economy when materials spending flows overseas. I know the argument is that EVENTUALLY dollars have to be repatriated over here but we have 2 out of 3 printed dollars untaxed being used as nominal currency in foriegn lands. The globalization strategy isn't working isn't working for the American middle class. Evidence? Wage jobs pay has remained essentially flat for the past 9 years.

134

If any of your morons have the opportunity, Tom Coburn is speaking on the Senate floor right now and he is magnificent.  Fuck, I am stuck with Kennedy and Kerry and instead of a smart, sensible, principled guy like Coburn.

i got Nelson and Martinez in FL, Martinez is moderate enough to tick me off at times but i'm glad he's...so far...voted against this crap pork bill. Nelson meanwhile is nothing but a dem talking point.

135 Hey chattering class...

chatter...call these three traitors.

Specter        202-224-4254
Snowe         202-224-5344
Collins         202-224-2523

136 There are a crapload of conservatives in Oregon, just none in Portland or Eugene.

Oh I know, I live on the Eastside... the one with all of the toothless hillbillys and the blood red counties.

137

Dan's the kind of guy who can't count to 21 without getting arrested for indecent exposure.

I never understood the meaning of the insult "pencil-neck" until I saw his picture.

138

Those brave Democrats passed this wonderous bill over the objections of the EVIL Republicans.

 

WASHINGTON – Handing the new administration a big win, House Democrats passed President Barack Obama's $787 billion plan to resuscitate the economy on Friday despite a wall of Republican opposition.

Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., who withdrew his nomination to be Obama's Commerce secretary, said he would vote against the bill.

 

139 this is bullshit. we are screwed

140 Jo.. you said it yourself:

"Of course, the assumes that the MSM really wants to interview a Republican other than the three traitors who voted yes on the last vote...."

They didn't want to hear from Coburn (other than Fox&Friends in the am... seen Coburn on there a couple of times during this mess), the Media wants this mess to pass.. so they didn't dare talk to Sen. Coburn or Sen. Sessions (who pretty much nailed it with his earlier speech on the floor).

141

There are a crapload of conservatives in Oregon, just none in Portland or Eugene.

I was kidding of course!  I run into more conservatives than liberals all of the time but when I watch the local election results every year all I can't think is "you gotta be fuckin' shittin' me????"  We gotta be getting close to a breakthrough though;  Kulongoski only beat Mannix by a handful of votes.

142 Try as they may, the European Socialists in Washington can no longer blame GW. The failed economy now belongs to them. 2010 can't come soon enough.

If Barry makes it to 2010 I'll be amazed.

http://www.saveyourcontry.org

143

Nice photoshop!

I'm developing a very low opinion of anything that comes out of Illinois.

144 Again, the bipartisan part of this is the opposition, a fact that will be studiously ignored.

Yeah Mannix probably won, to be honest. If you trust the vote by mail system I wanna sell you a bridge. He was winning until they counted all the Portland votes - right up to the wire. They happened to find enough to get him through.

I voted for Kulongowski last time though. Better a do-nothing twit than a loser Repub like Saxton. Who the hell thought he'd be a good idea?

145 Damn, Slu.  That Photoshop just slays me.

146
You know how the Dems are so fond of demanding timetables?

Well, I want a fucking timetable showing exactly by when that 3 4 million jobs will be created.

And I want to know right now how exactly Obama is going to measure a "saved" job.

147 Repub like Saxton. Who the hell thought he'd be a good idea?

Um, the Oregon Republican party.

It needs to be fixed/nuked/ from the ground up. To many 100year old Hatfield and Packwood people in it.

148 A 'saved' job is the number of jobs needed to get the number of jobs created/saved by this bill up to the 4 million figure used by Obama.  So when, for example, this bill kills 5 million jobs, there will be 9 million 'saved' jobs counted to bring the number up to the expected level.

149

If you look at it over 50% of the home loans that have been redone are already in forclosure again.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at February 13, 2009 04:29 PM (XhjAw)

Do you have a source for that, SDBoy?  I'd like to share it with some people.

150 Stimulated yet?  I'll just keep rub'n then.

151 Mitch McConnell just said, on the floor, to stick the Stimulus, but not quite in those words.

152 My Congresscritter Kratovil, a Dem, voted against it the first time but I don't see his name on the list this time.  Burn in Hell, you bastard.  And, enjoy your short stay.  You will be gone in 2010.  Fuckwad.

153 Senate votes at 5.30pm? Are they flying in zombie Teddy again?

154 I think Teddy is too ill to travel from Florida.

155

Fairness Doctrine, it's got the word "Fairness" right in the title, how can you oppose "fairness"... besides, it's for the children (sniffles) why do you hate children?

156 Nope Uncle Teddy won't be voting on this 1 so really all we need is one of those turn coats to vote no and it won't pass,but do you think they can do it?

157 Oh, great, here comes Johnny Mac . . . freakin' douchenozzle.

158

Those crooks in the nation's brothel are having one heck of time with my money.


Did anybody notice that it's Friday the 13th?

159 fuck Mitch McConnell, the only reason he's going to vote no on it is that he knows if he votes yes he will not be re-elected, he wants this craptastic bill to pass, he's a big gov. repub and i detest him as much, if not more, than the obamatrons, he should be receiving his daily oral sex from A. Sullivan and George Will about now (i know, doesn't make much sense, i'm just pissed off as all hell)

160 Specter got bribed with a 6 million dollar pet project added to the debt package, so you know he'll stay bought. The others will just be bipartisan and hell, they agree with the idea anyway.

161 Excellent 'shop, Slu.

Was that post-it-note on the podium in the original?  It scares me.

162

Reminder:  While I do not believe this monstrosity will work--IF it does not, we have no more bullets, folks.  The inflation this thing will cause will force interest rates up at the worst possible moment.  Debt holders are likely to put a steady stream of T-bills on the market to stay ahead of the dollars drop, thereby exacerbating what will become a vicious cycle.

We ould have been much better off in the long run doing absolutely nothing AND letting the weak banks fail.  Now we'll have inflation, a still non-sensical energy policy, wobbly banks and institutions/individuals that will expect the governmetn to step in, no matter what.  What happens when the government cannot do so?

 

 

163 who here wants to wager a bet the if the repubs can get a filibuster...that the dems will make them go by the old rules and actually stand there and do the filibuster oldschool style?

164

Was there any significant cut in the payroll tax, or is that just not enough fun as a statist porkfest for the Obamunist and his coherts?

165

Bye-Bye private sector. 

The chamber of Commerce and National Association of Manufacturers have been pushing hard to get this thing passed.

As I keep saying, Americas corporate chieftans are all socialists.

166 BTW, I'm watching Beck now.  He just said that in this bill it says that anyone who takes TARP money agrees not to object to the EFCA (card-check) bill.  Socialist bastards.

167 166 BTW, I'm watching Beck now.  He just said that in this bill it says that anyone who takes TARP money agrees not to object to the EFCA (card-check) bill.  Socialist bastards.

And yet they removed the provision that anyone taking money would have to use e-verify.  Brilliant.

168 I would really love to embrace a throbbing pork loaded monstrosity myself,... jus' sayin'

169 so far...33 Aye, 28 Nay

170 _Revolt.

171 now 44 ayes, 32 nays...

172 I swear I'm ready to throw things at my TV sitting here watching C-span I really want to hurt someone how can they be laughing and back slapping when they are signing away our great nation. OMG!!!!

173 I think Snowe and Collins voted 'Aye' 

174 173 I think Snowe and Collins voted 'Aye'

As did Specter.

175 I heard Snowe as aye and I just heard Spectre as aye.  Fuckers.  Not sure about Collins....

176 Cong. Lipinski voted "present"? Does that mean he'll be arrested for impersonating the President?

177 Update please.

178 I believe the ayes are now at 52 for those of you w/o Tv or linky to CSpan2

179 Can they twist their arms and get them to change their votes by 9 when voting closes? Nope I didn't think so but it was a nice dream

180 I'm watching CSpan2 on my computer.  They don't have a count on the screen.  You are awesome to be keeping score here, Cyn!!

181 Can we start the revolution already, please?

182

Update please.

183

You are awesome to be keeping score here, Cyn!!

I only hope I'm keeping it right and that they're not re-reviewing votes and stuff! I didn't break out my senate bingo card with all their names on it; next time I think I will!

Ayes: 54, Nayes:32

184

correction with update:

Ayes now 56

Nays are 37

185

Part and parcel of the Second American Revolution, after the Great Collapse, was a renewed national spirit. That "can do" atttitude, once prevalent during the 20th century, but widely derided by those who later were uncovered as domstic enemies, came out from hiding. From the ashes of the Worldwide Trade War (2010-2014) was borne the seeds of the greatest time of human affluence and prosperity that we continue to enjoy to this day.

Future History Volume II

186 Didn't read this whole thread but didn't I read somewhere that Reid would keep this open for the senator who's currently attending a funeral (no, I don't mean Ted's own, either! Ha)?

187 Yup, some Dem senator is attending his mother's funeral and will be flying in later to vote "Aye"

188 Check out HCR6.  Glenn Beck just had state Rep.  Dan Itse on who talked about it.

189 186 - Cyn
Apparently the White House was sending a plane today for that Senator.Sounds like he was going to bury his mother and then turn around and get on a plane...

190

Yeah. attending a dead person's funeral is so much more important than the most important vote you will ever make...than spending more in one single bill than we have spent in 232 years.

Dead people are rolling over in their graves right now...President's Day what a joke.

191 No change: Still at Ayes 56, Nays 37

192 2010 - bring it, bitches.  Our motto should be - You fuck with my country, I terminate your fucking political career.

193 Sherlock: I like your sentiments and I'm wondering how I can subscribe to your newsletter. Thanks, Cyn

194 I dunno, am feeling so pessimistic these days..The voting public is still 1) really stupid or 2) really don't care or 3) head over heels in love with Obama and I fear that as bad as things may be in 2010, they will still vote the Dems back in. Unless Obama gets caught in some sort of real nasty scandal. Sigh, maybe I jued need to get out of southern CA, all these cars with their Obama/Biden stickers on os giving me a severe case of road rage.

195

IC-your forgot this one: 4) All of The Above

 

196 I see on my live stream confirmation that Aye votes are at 57

197 Cyn - good catch!!

198 Have any Dems voted Nay?

199

I didn't keep track of who specifically voted one way or the other--I now have my senate name list handy if they do a review, though.

200 Per Malkin, Snow, Collins, and Specter voted yes.

Which means we're screwed.

201 Anyone know a humane source of horse heads?

202 If you were looking for dick heads, the US Senate would be a good source.

203

200 Per Malkin, Snow, Collins, and Specter voted yes.

Which means we're screwed.

Not quite, I believe. With Teddy not there they need one more Repub and I recall. Otherwise they'll have to fly him back and I read that he's too sick now.

204

How come spending money a lot more money than I have doesn't work for me, but for the federal government it's sound fiscal policy?  Should I borrow a huge amount of money and then spend it as fast as I can?

Since the Democrats are out to wreck America to soften it up for extreme socialism, their reckless spending is sound policy for them.  Too bad for the rest of us.

205 #201 I like the way you think, Sherlock.

206 The Donks are fucking us up the ass...we need to flush the toilet that is Congress starting in 2010...fire all of them that screwed us based on "their principles"...take back our government, then go after the lobbyists and "special interest groups", then clean out the waste in government...stop this fucking bullshit

207 They don't need any Republicans to vote for the bill. It's not a 2/3rds vote to pass, just to get cloture, which they can get easy.

208 Markie Marxist sez:  "We're going to break the back of American capitalism, by piling debt onto it until it snaps!  Ha!  Ha!"

209 Hey, I'll bet Hillary has line on a reliable horse-head supplier.

210

Reminder:  While I do not believe this monstrosity will work--IF it does not, we have no more bullets, folks.  The inflation this thing will cause will force interest rates up at the worst possible moment.  Debt holders are likely to put a steady stream of T-bills on the market to stay ahead of the dollars drop, thereby exacerbating what will become a vicious cycle.

We ould have been much better off in the long run doing absolutely nothing AND letting the weak banks fail.  Now we'll have inflation, a still non-sensical energy policy, wobbly banks and institutions/individuals that will expect the governmetn to step in, no matter what.  What happens when the government cannot do so?

Don't bring your fucking "facts" and "economics" and "analysis" into this thing.  Whatcha tryin' to do?  Bring down the Republic?  This carefully crafted, balanced, and thoughtful stimulus bill will create or save 4 million jobs!!  These are workers with children!!  DO YOU FUCKING HATE CHILDREN, ASSHOLE?!?!?!1111!!!!111!!1111

211 Oh, and "cockholster".

Just doin' my part.

212

@207: Live stream of CSpawn2 is reading "60 Ayes Needed".

213 What's taking them so long? I have to go back to work soon.  And why are they flying in some guy who's burying his mother?

214

If you were looking for dick heads, the US Senate would be a good source.

Hell, my local Democratic Party office maintains a list of thousands of those.

215 Because they need his vote to get to 60.

216 Somebody check my math here: 56 confirmed Dems plus 2 Indies=58. Ted didn't vote so that leaves 57. Of this, we have the three Repub Traitors Snowe, Collins, & Spector, so we're at 53 Dems voting Aye. Then, we have the one funeral attendee so only 52 Dems have voted for this...?! Is my math right?!

217 Geeat, they are at 57 and all 3 traitors voted yes. This thing is going to pass and I have never been so afraid in my life. this is the begining of the end

218 Anyone know a humane source of horse heads?

You need the other end if you're thinking about congressmen.

219

cspan says they are at 57 and there are 3 dems left to stil lvote

 

220

I just heard that HR45 is folded into the Stimulus Bill...

But, the fight is only over when you lay dead.

221 And on a Friday the 13th, no less. Purrrrrrfect.

222 Unless Gillibrand votes no .......

223

Live stream of CSpawn2 is reading "60 Ayes Needed".

I think they are wrong and 207 is right... AFAIK this is not cloture, just a straight-up vote and all they need is 1 more than half.

224
What is HR45?

225 Anyone know a humane source of horse heads?

Funny you should ask.  We're running a special.  (There's been a rush on rotting fish lately though.)

226 As of Friday the 13th:
This economy shall henceforth be called the DEMOCRAT economy.

Every financial decision made from this moment is being made with the knowledge that the D's run the US economy, 100%. All hiring, all firing, all buying and selling, all contractual obligations that are either met, cancelled or defaulted upon. All of it.

So...they own it. They own it all. Anything good that happens will be in spite of the horrors of the Democrat Economy, anything bad is because of the Democrat economy.

227 If all they needed was 51, they would not still be counting.

228 HR45 is, were fucked. Buy a gun, today!

229 I suppose the 4 million jobs saved He means will be the 4 million jobs left.

Know the three R's.  Have the three G's (Gold, Guns, God).

And seriously look up HCR6 out of NH.  It was gonna come out of there or TX.

230 I suppose the 4 million jobs saved means will be the 4 million jobs left.

How many government employees are there? 

231 Ummm....  there will be 4 million... that count as jobs.  Not volunteers... or "volunteers".

232 What is HR45?

Posted by: flenser at February 13, 2009 06:26 PM (BhlZI)

Kind of like "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", but the music isn't as good.

233 Freepers who did keyword searches on the bill found no reference to guns, firearms, etc.  Nasty rumor

234 In 2006 there were 14.6 million federal employees, if including postal, military and govt contractors.  The civil service component was 1.9 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/
content/article/2006/10/05/AR2006100501782.html

235 Anyone know a humane source of horse heads?

Posted by: sherlock at February 13, 2009 06:12 PM (8V5Ut)

Try a pet food company; it worked for The Godfather.

236 Gallows Humor, Anyone? - Considering what day it is, an appropriately-themed photoshop is in order:

Thank you for covering her face, anyway.

237 I believe they need 60 votes because this bill increases the federal debt. Can't increase the debt on a straight majority vote.

I THINK.

238 Do they have 59 votes already and are just waiting for that Senator to be flown back in to cast the 60th vote?

239 Ugh, Lipinski is my rep.  I just wrote him an email to say that "Present" is for pansies like our former senator-next time man up and say "no" if that's what you mean (thanks for the effective "no," not that it matters).

240 From what I understand, they have 57 votes. Brown is being flown in tonight. Bayh and Gillibrand have not voted yet. Not quite sure why.

241 What is HR45?

You can find the answer right here:

http://lmgtfy.com/

242 I still like the Sam Adams protest idea, whoever came up with that. I'd love to see it on TV. Tens, even hundred of thousands of Samuel Adams drinking Sam Adams beer marching on Washington.

243 Why are the folks on HotAir saying some sort of gun control regulations were sneaked into the stimulus plan? I scanned the summary of the Stimulus plan and say no mention of any gun control regulations. Did you guys see anything?

244 You know what the famous beauty Catherine Deneuve said:

After 40, a woman must choose between the face and the body.

245 As a lifelong squishy Republican senator independent hog farmer, I know that subsidized pork is succulent, tangy, crispy, and deliciously yummy. But as of today, Black Friday the 13th, I am deeply concerned that... 

246 HR 45 or some version of it was not sneaked into the bill, was it?

247 Fuck this shit!!!!!  Not one of those fuckers read this fucking bill!!!!!  I'm soooo mad at this shit.

248 Tens, even hundred of thousands of Samuel Adams drinking Sam Adams beer marching on Washington.

Yes, i'm in. And if anyone feels the need to relieve himself, I know just the location.

249

Part and parcel of the Second American Revolution, after the Great Collapse, was a renewed national spirit. That "can do" atttitude, once prevalent during the 20th century, but widely derided by those who later were uncovered as domstic enemies, came out from hiding. From the ashes of the Worldwide Trade War (2010-2014) was borne the seeds of the greatest time of human affluence and prosperity that we continue to enjoy to this day.

Future History Volume II

I like it. Unfortunately, I predict:

The Second Great Inflation (2009-2013)

A post inflationary recession (2014-2015)

 

250 H.R. 45 is the bill Bobby Rush is doing that sets up a federal license for a handgun. They want a disarmed populace. A disarmed populace is an enslaved populace.

251

It's going to pass; there's no stopping this monstrosity now thanks to the fucking scumbag traitors Specter, Snowe and Collins.

Hot tar. Feathers. Rubber hose.  Some assembly required.

Those cocksucking piece of shit cowards need to be stripped of committee assignments and funding, then run out of the party right fucking now.  In effect the Dems already have a supermajority- if the likes of Specter, Snowe and Collins can't muster up the integrity to vote against this pork filled monstrosity that threatens to destroy the economy, what won't they side with the Dems on?

 

252 235 Anyone know a humane source of horse heads?
Posted by: sherlock at February 13, 2009 06:12 PM (8V5Ut)

Yeah,

http://www.rpgshow.com/stock-lace-wigs-clearance-sale-c-47.html

253

As per Samuel Adams, I am about to drink one in honor of the First Patriots.

254 58 aye's - Two demoscum, Bayh - IN, Brown - OH, still to vote..

255 Senator Specter  = Senator Sphincter

256 We are screwed, Dems at 59, just waiting for that plane to land to officially screw us over.

257 All the squealing, like the imperialist pigs you are, isn't going to make a bit of difference. This is change, revolutionary change. I OWN your bitter, clinging asses, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it...Just make sure you get out that checkbook on Apr 15, as otherwise...well, never mind, JUST DO IT!

258

To think, we would have held the line if it hadn't been for 3 traitors...

Total lack of representation by our Congress. I'm up for another tea party.

Paraphrasing The Two Towers, there are no words in any language that can decribe this treachery. 

259 Would it be too much to hope that Bayh might vote Nay?

260 Pelosi would murder Bayh for ruining her vacation.

261 #259, only Brown is left.

262 259 Would it be too much to hope that Bayh might vote Nay?

That's what I'm praying for.  Probably futile, but can't hurt to give it a shot.

263 Bayh - aye...  59...

264 C-Spawn2 still showing Bayh & Brown haven't voted with 58 as Aye.

265

The hand gun bill, the fairness doctrine, hell-even the repeal to the 22nd ammendment to remove presidential term limits can and will all pass. this vote proves it, there is no voice of reason that is in control.That is terrifying

With this turd, Zero has just garaunteed himself a fillibuster proof voting majority-thats what its intended purpose was. More people working for the government, more getting welfare, unemployment and health care. Coupled with the union, ACORN and Green industry votes it is a garauntee that Zero will become dictator. No one is going to vote against their meal ticket in any election. And yes, there is legislation to repeal presidential term limit. While it has been introduced over and over and died in the past, it's because niether party had enough power in all branches to get it to pass. Coimncidentally now they do as well as having pending legislation to remove term limits. Overwhelming majority in House and all they need is 3 squishies in the senate. These 3 squishies didn't give a shit that their vote would cripple this country, they sure won't give a shit bringing a dictator to power. if you don't think it's possible or it's not coming, think again. Who ever thought this dooms day stimulus would pass? That is the plan that has been set in motion now, but people won't realize it until its the 11th hour and Zero is supreme dictator presiding over a 3rd world econmy America

 

266 Now I just heard Bayh Aye

267 123

@55 Mastour:

This legislation is offered by the political party which supports

a) the destruction of America's anti-terrorism intelligence apparatus,

b) the withdrawal of charges against our Islamofascist Gitmo guests,

c) the defeat of our forces in Iraq,

d) the silencing of conservative talk radio

and

e) the complete elimination of our 2nd Amendment rights.

If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, go right ahead.

Sam Adams,

I'm with you and don't disagree.  All I'm saying is there is shit if front of us that we need to contend with first. If and that's a big if we can check this first salvo, we can address the ones they are throwing at us, but the way it's looking we are truly fucked.
 

268 @258: I'm not so sure it's all because of 3 traitors: I can't help wondering if the GOP planned on going along with the stimulus all along, and these three are just the designated fall guys, allowing the rest to vote No.

I'm just skeptical that the same people that spent like sailors for a decade suddenly saw the light...

269 Maybe Brown's plane will be delayed long enough to end the session and the vote will get postponed eight days. Enough time to ferment public anger over the giant steaming mound of manure in the bill to force vote changes.

270 That's it, then.  Fully fucked for life (several generations' worth).

271

C-Spawn2 still showing Bayh & Brown haven't voted with 58 as Aye.

It's over.  It's passing.  The vote is being held open long enough for Bayh and Brown to vote yes.

Anyone know of a good militia in Minnesota?

272 Jody C.

Everything you mentioned has a good chance at passing.  Repealing the 22nd amendment will be extremely difficult based on all the hurdles required to do that.

The interesting thing with the permanent majority is that it will require producers to keep the majority intact.  Right now there is the incentive of money, take that away and actually penalize it and where do you get the money.  Its not even like the US has the money to float loans for awhile to keep up the farce.  The house of cards could tumble quick.  Its just a matter if the new minority of producers will stand up and say NO.  That will be the real interesting story of the next 2-8 years.

273

If you guys are holding out for Brown, don't.  He was one of the original Kos Kandidates.

It's over.  Drink while you can still afford it.

274 @#272, David:  "The house of cards could tumble quick."

This is just the start of the "Stimuli."

And the house of cards WILL tumble quick.

275

If there are three people in the US I hate more than Specter, Snowe and Collins right now, I can't think of who they might be.

I've never wished cancer on anyone before, but I might just make an exception for Specter.

276

Anyone know of a good militia in Minnesota?

Heh; with your handle, "Hollowpoint", I'm thinking I might come up there and hook up with you!

277 Three weeks.

It took them three weeks.



God help us all.

278 Fuck this.  Fuck this.  Fuck this.  What companies are liberal?  I know Costco is.  What else do I need to ban and fuck with?  I already don't use Google.

279

268 I honestly thin that the new blood R blood in this Congress is more conservative than their predecessors. Also, the people who were against this measure overwhelmingly voiced their opposition to these reps like never before...

Personally, I prefer not to become cynical about the Rs sudden reversal. Besides, what would the Republicans have to gain by this move? I've heard many say that they won't vote Republican unless the RNC kicks out those three, so it can't be votes...I believe that, after 7 yrs, they have finally found their spine; I could be right, or I could be wrong. We shall see.      

280 "No" to anything GE or NBC, Progressive Insurance are others I can think of.

281 13.5% GDP deficits? That's "Change I Can Believe In!"

282

Brown is an asshole. He's as Socialist as they get. Gawd, work is going to suck tomorrow. It's Valentine's Day AND my Lib co-workers are going to be gloating.

All. Day. Long.

283 What company published Obambi's books? Random House. No more for them.

284 Whats truly ironic, is that the one thing Obama could do to guarantee his re-election in 2012 is veto this monstrosity.

285

Heh; with your handle, "Hollowpoint", I'm thinking I might come up there and hook up with you!

Cool.  You do know how to gut a squirrel, right?  With the inflation that's coming, I'm not sure I'll be able to afford the $1.2 million a pound of ground beef will cost.

286

C-Spawn 2 noting that Brown is expected on the floor about 10:30pm EST.

287 Well, I'm leaving the GOP and going IND.  Fuck this.

288 I may even switch my registration to democrat.  I don't want to be denied health coverage, afterall.

289

Fucking hilarious.  Jimmy Carter is gonna be on with Olbermann discussing whether Carter believes Obama can solve the financial crisis.

Jimmy fucking Carter.  Liberalism is a mental disorder.

290
220

But, the fight is only over when you lay dead.

I shall exert every faculty I possess in aiding to prevent the Constitution from being nullified, destroyed, or impaired; and even though I should see it fail, I will still, with a voice feeble, perhaps, but earnest as ever issued from human lips, and with extinguish, call on the people to come to its rescue. – Daniel Webster

291 They're going to wait 3 hours for this cocksucker to cast a vote? ...nice job/work, if you can get it.  Of course Barry is providing a jet for his departure/arrival.

These people should all be horsewhipped.

292 If you want to quote Two Towers, use Samwise...

I know. It's all wrong. By rights, we shouldn't even be here. But we are... It's like in the great stories Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was, when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing - this shadow... even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines, it will shine out the clearer. Those are the stories that stayed with you... That meant something... Even if you were too small to understand why... But I think Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going, because they were holding onto something. (What are we holding onto, Sam?) That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And its worth fighting for.

293

I may even switch my registration to democrat.  I don't want to be denied health coverage, afterall.

Oooo; hadn't thought of that. Damn.

294 A march on Washington really would be cool, too bad we guys on the right have, like, jobs and stuff.

295 Well, just remember what Biden said: 30 percent chance this won't work.

Translation: "We're gonna spend even MORE money in the near future!"

296 To the GOP,

I would highly suggest you run with this shit during the next election seasons. I want you to fucking bury the dems with this bill. Remind the people who passed this bill. Enough of the compassionate conservatism. All that gives us is a good ass fucking. Time to grab your balls and fight for the Republic.

297

#272 David

Difficult hurdles? Are they more difficult than everything that happened for this criminal act they just passed? People have been melting the phones screaming at their reps and being ignored. Pelosi, Reid, Shumer etc. all blatantly insulting we the chattering voters. Kerry and his ilk telliung us we don't know better but they do know better how to use our money. All Dems in Washignton being Marie Antoinette, Zero using such over the top fear mongering, it's cartoonish. Zero lying through his teeth. And all politicians having 10 hours to read 1400 pages and many admitting on camera they didnt even read it before voting for it!!This thing was loaded with 40 years of pork bills and we all knew. This was not something that was completely unknown. Republicans held the line and STILL this atomic bomb passed.

There is no hurdle to difficult to over come after seeing all of this insanity and it still succeded. It's gonna happen, he has stacked the voting roles for it to happen. His megalomania intentions have been pretty clear

298 I am glad the republicans did not have any input to this bill. It would have been the equivalent of putting water fountains on the boxcars carrying the Jews to the concentration camps. This is going to kill the economy and Ofuck and the democrats own it 100%. Good let the change begin and elect conservatives.

299 Have you ever stopped to think of all the laws that need rescinding? It's staggering.  After four year of this, it'll be Herculean.

300 288 I may even switch my registration to democrat.  I don't want to be denied health coverage, afterall.

Posted by: InCali at February 13, 2009 07:27 PM (gUKfo)

I've been registered as a Dem for many, many years.  Did it to vote in one of the primaries and never bothered to change it.  It's fun to fuck with them when they call me at election times.  Of course, except for random primaries, I've never voted Dem for anything in my life.

301 It seems to me that the present sheep in congress who like to think and act like they are productive human beings (those who supported the economic stick-it-to-us bill) are absolutely worthless. We are again at the juncture of "taxation without representation" in a MAJOR way. Can we collectively develop enough fortitude to create a groundswell of conservative influence to generate a tidal wave to sink the Titanic of Corruption in Washington, DC via a revised Boston Tea Party? What say ye?

302 Fuck this.  Fuck this.  Fuck this.  What companies are liberal?  I know Costco is.  What else do I need to ban and fuck with?  I already don't use Google.



That may be the best way to hit them back. I watch movies for free on line and I down load music for free too. Go economically after any companies that support the Dims or liberal causes. Fuck them all.

303

A march on Washington really would be cool, too bad we guys on the right have, like, jobs and stuff.

How about the 4th of July weekend? The 4th is on a Saturday this year and the importance of the day is appropriate.

304

What companies are liberal? 

Maybe Ace, or Gabe or somebody could start a list for us as we contribute names. I tried to find if anyone had already created such a list but didn't immediately find anything. Oh, don't forget to add Apple, Nike & Starbucks to the list!

305

Lord, and I thought I was the only LOTR geek.

I do not know why, but I feel like Paul Revere has come running by on horse yelling that the Redcoats are coming.

306 I was wondering something tonight. 2010 will be a non presidential election year. If I am not mistaken, fewer people will vote in non presidential election years than presidential years. Usually that means, the dumbass voters stay home while the more informed voters go and vote. I am hoping that will be the case for 2010 because I think that will help our side.

307 Well, how about a million-man & woman march on Washington with loaded, shouldered arms, sickinmass?  "Sorry, we don't need a permit.  We ARE the permit."

308 pelosi to the pope on her military jet--sharrod flown back to vote on a military jet--don't ever say that progressives are afraid to use the military.....as their personal chauffeurs

309 I would bet those Dems voted no with permission from Nan because they are in conservative areas.

310 ErikW@303

I say we march on Washington while congress is in session. We all know, they will be snorting coke off their hooker's ass and not in session on the 4th

311 Jody,

2/3 passage of both house and ratification by 3/4 of the states.  That is a huge hurdle.  Not impossible, but a lot more than 1/2 of the house and 3/5 of the senate.

I think you would need 38 states to pass the amendment if my math is correct.  There are still 13 deep red states out there.  Assuming Franking wins they need 8 republicans to cross in the senate and 38 in the house.  I don't see the votes in the next two years.  If the dems steal 2010, then we can revisit the math.

312 ARM UP!!

313 Somebody want to bring out the guillotine and wipe the cobwebs off of her? Its time to behead this beast of a government that we have.

314

Fucking hilarious.  Jimmy Carter is gonna be on with Olbermann discussing whether Carter believes Obama can solve the financial crisis.

Jimmy Carter!!!!  Happy days are here again.........

315 What Companies are Conservative? We should list and support the hell out of 'em.

316 Mallaise part II^tm

317 Jody, one other point that would be hysterical is that they start the amendment process, it doesn't get ratified immediately and then a Republican takes over and serves 3 or 4 terms after red states ratify.

While that would be karma and irony at its best, I still don't like the idea of even a Republican Conservative president serving more than 2 terms (even Reagan).  Power will corrupt the best of the leaders.

318 Go find an Appleseed and take the edge off your frustration:

http://www.appleseedinfo.org/

319 After snorting the coke off the hooker's ass, he will be forced to read her tramp stamp on her back; Liberals Have Small Dicks!

320 #282 -- right up until they're laid off.

321 We on the right do own the patriots and the founding fathers, we should play that up. Seriously, that ought to be our brand: the founding fathers, the constitution, the revolution, and the founding of the USA. Nobody can argue with that without seeming like an anti-American jerk. An all-Samuel Adams march would be really distinctive and mind blowing.

322 I downloaded a copy of the spendzilla bill today. Searching through it in Adobe, I can only find one reference to firearms, and thats in regards to money for the ATF project Gunrunner. Thats where they try to prevent guns from making it into Mexico.

323 Things may get bad. That means more willing to get involved. Writing and calling doesn't seem to work. They work for US! Starve them.
I. Am .In

324

"A march on Washington really would be cool, too bad we guys on the right have, like, jobs and stuff."

 

we play by the rules and lose, they break them all and win, i can not remember ever feeling so frustrated and angry about politics...

325 It's Valentine's Day AND my Lib co-workers are going to be gloating.

All. Day. Long.

_____________________________________________________

Solution:  Piss in the water cooler.  Problem solved.

326 CDR M, Cyn & Indian outlaw -

I did a quick search and found a list of conservative companies, although I can't vouch for it:

http://tinyurl.com/bsvnfx

The buyblue.com site looks as though it was changed to buyblue.org, but it says its undergoing regular maintenence, so there's nothing there. We can find this out via donations, yes?

327 That should be a trillion dollar bill that is burning how do we get trillion dollar bills with obamas mug on them? any artistes out there?

328 Here's an article about companies that support the GOP. It was written by a liberal nutter. So take it with a grain of salt. Sorry, you will have to copy and paste it. Hyperlink won't work for me. http://tinyurl.com/chy6jl

329 315 What Companies are Conservative? We should list and support the hell out of 'em.

Very few.  Big business loves big government.  It is an undeniable fact.  Big businesses have already achieved dominance... thus they turn to seek out permanence.  It is why many big businesses liked FDR.  Why they really like the ChiComms.  Why they liked Mussolini and Hitler.  It totally fucks their competition and establishing permanence through government keeps them from having to compete, cut costs, and innovate.

330 #329, bingo, its a lie that big business like small government.  Big businesses don't mind regulations because that cements their position of market share.  Its the medium to small businesses (and consequently consumers and taxpayers) that get killed by this stuff.

331 You know what is pissing me off right now? When you go to the home page of the RNC, they are more worried about selling some fucking stupid Valentine's Day cards. I don't see anything about the porkherinthehole bill.

332

I happened to find a site for Christian values with a list of companies as well.

TinyUrl.com is your friend for making linky love ;-)

333 Here's a listing of donations from opensecrets.org showing the amounts donated and which way the companies or organizatiosn tilt:

http://tinyurl.com/6x7g8d

334 Great link Shannon!  I added to my book marks and will be forwarding it on to friends.  I am a small business owner and in our neck of the woods we support one another... of course most small business owners are conservatives.

335 Shannon! You are on F.I.R.E!

336 Frustration?  Anger?

Do like I'm going to do.

Sunday morning, early, I am going to take a walk with a map of my local neighborhood.  On this map, I am going to mark all the houses with a car in the driveway sporting an Obama/Biden bumpersticker.

Then, come Tuesday, I am going to go back to work,  I am going to do my job, and I am going to John Galt myself slowly out of the economy.

Once the collapse comes (no food in the grocery stores, 9-1-1 ringing busy, Obama's Americorps domestic army thugs running wild, etc.)--and the porkulus pretty much  guarantees that it will--I will have a nice little map to guide my "Are you Sarah Connor?" tour.

337 FDR tried to put Henry Ford's head on a pike because he wouldn't give into FDR's New Deal shennanigans, there are no Ford's left in the world, ppl like Ford are decidedly unappericated these days, they actually expect to make good on their own devices, without cutting the obligarchs in on any of it... the gall of some ppl, go figure 

338 To think I lived long enough to see Jimmy Carter crawl his anti-semitic ass out from under the rock he's been all these years.

SOB is starting to look like Gollum, too.

339 Ginger's link puts Costco as a Repub contributor; this page has other names too. Good find

340 The RNC and DNC are impotent when it comes to policy.  Always been that way.  In all honesty do you want the best ideas coming from national Republicans, think about that?

Its all about local.  We have to start local.  We need good men and women in local positions.  Take back our schools and our local press.  That will eventually bubble up to the county and state level and then the national politicians will steal all the good ideas that the Conservatives governors tried like they did in 1994.  We can't win the inner cities yet, but you can be damn sure that you can get a Conservative school board in the suburbs and red states that can force a lot of the liberal BS right out of the schools.

341

Where the hell did my Country go? Who let the Fascists in?

 

342 If you are looking for someone to support, shop Walmart.  We all know the libs hate that place, so something must be good about it.

343 WalMart has been screaming bloody murder about that CardCheck shit. I will now spend the extra $13 I'll soon be receive at my local WalMart.

344 Don't a lot of companies support both parties? I thought I read that somewhere.

345 ...Well, how about a million-man & woman march on Washington with loaded, shouldered arms, sickinmass?  "Sorry, we don't need a permit.  We ARE the permit."...

They'd open up on you. Look what was done to the bonus army in '32 (from: wikipedia)

On 28 July, 1932, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the police evacuation of the Bonus Army veterans, who resisted; the police shot at them, and killed two. When told of the killings, President Hoover ordered the U.S. Army to effect the evacuation of the Bonus Army from Washington, D.C.

At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, Fort Myer, Virginia, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of Civil Service employees left work to line the street and watch the U.S. Army attack its own veterans. The Bonus Marchers, believing the display was in their honour, cheered the troops until Maj. Patton charged the cavalry against them — Hundreds of veterans were injured, several were killed; a veteran's wife miscarried; and many other veterans were hurt.

The Posse Comitatus Act — forbidding civilian police work by the U.S. military — did not apply to Washington, D.C., because it is the federal district directly governed by the U.S. Congress.

346 The threat to our freedom is very real folks and for the doubters, take a look at what more than 20 states are doing, because of the very bad vibes coming from the White House. News yesterday was that ammunition in CA has grown by 100% and the manufacturers cannot keep up with it. Sounds like thinking Americans can see a very big storm coming. I hope Alana reads this. New Hampshire Bill

347 Yes, Ginger, they are often AC/DC. That link of Shannon's at OpenSecrets shows the percentages contributed to D's & R's. Amway has given 0% to Dems.

348 Um, I just looked Anheuser Busch the owner of Sam Adams contributed to the dems. Might want to put down the bottle of Sam Adams and pick some other beer.

349 BTW, I found the Sam Adams thing on campaignmoney.com

350 Not one red cent to the RNC until the Three Traitors are thrown out. Let's roll, BOYCOTT MAINE, and FUCK FRANCE!

351 Ginger@331..
Email Michael Steele, tell him to take down stupid valentine and post the pictures of these three commies and disavow them as republicans. I just did!

352 sickinmass: what are the other 20 states looking into this? I'm reading your link now, btw.

353 But, hey, music & movies were better in '32.

354 Most  Big Companies sit the fence and pick both to win and pad the pockets of both parties with lobby money .  All of DC is corrupt!  Have you ever met a national politician?

355 Any chance that oBOMBa/Pelosi made a deal with Spector?  He supports the spendulus and he gets a few vetoes when oBOMBa is trying to find a S Court nominee? 

356 345-Well that's why revolution is a bad idea.  I favor secession (Just say the word, Texas!) and leaving the Obama states with the national debt.  Our civil war went on for quite a while and was not a sure thing for the North for much of it.

And figure we've got a couple hundred thousand Iraq war vets who are no fans of Obama and have firsthand knowledge of the sort of tactics that made the typical Obama voter want to flee.

But, um, let's try and vote him out in 2012 first, 'kay?

357 cyn..The Mrs. yelling at me. hold please ('my bad 'choice of words..sorry)

358 sickinmass:uh not sure where to go with that...wtf... for real?

359

cyn..The Mrs. yelling at me. hold please ('my bad 'choice of words..sorry)

Ha! I was just going to let you know that I have to 'pause' for a bit too!

360 Porkulus takes revolution of the table.  There's no point to a revolt now--just wait for the collapse.

361 Doh!  . . . off the table. . .

362 352 sickinmass: what are the other 20 states looking into this? I'm reading your link now, btw.

Posted by: Cyn at February 13, 2009 08:25 PM (pleNJ)

Here ya go, Cyn:

http://tinyurl.com/cx89qt

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365 Hello everyone!

My son Chris is on his way out of Iraq , and will be in Hawaii in a few days!
Chris’ newest duty station is Schofield Barracks on Oahu, about 40 minutes out of Honolulu .
He’ll have about 6 months left on his 6 year enlistment.
It’s been a long time, and hard to believe it’s almost over.
We’re so thankful that he is coming home to us safe and sound!!!!eleventy!!!!!₁₁!

366 there's still things to try before taking the safety off, but i'm willing to do whatever it takes to make this stop

367 Any chance that oBOMBa/Pelosi made a deal with Spector?

I'd say 100%

368 good catch CB.  Starting looking for that 3 hrs ago, but got distracted.

369 Um, I just looked Anheuser Busch the owner of Sam Adams contributed to the dems. Might want to put down the bottle of Sam Adams and pick some other beer.

Blasphemy. Anheuser-Busch doesn't own Sam Adams.

370 My son Chris is on his way out of Iraq

Posted by: sickinmass at February 13, 2009 08:47 PM (/i4dU)

Wonderful news!  Hope you get to see him very soon. 

371 Great news, sickinmass!!!!

372 Great news, SIM! Thank your son for me.

373 There is an email making the rounds in DC listing the current staff working for the 3 loose Senators, and calling on conservative lobbies, associations, etc to blacklist them for future jobs.

It's a start.

374 My bad. Anheuser Busch does not won Sam Adams. My apologies. Big breasted hookers drunk on Valu Rite with low self esteem on me tonight.

375 won=own

376 375 won=own

Posted by: Ginger at February 13, 2009 09:01 PM (VjELp)

I think we all speak Valu Rite here, Ginger.

377 Coors should be a safe choice...

Great news SIM... and only has to have Obama as his boss for 6 months.  I know everyone here thanks him for his service.

Did Ace leave for his real mission to eradicate licewigs?

378

Thanks Cyn, I requested a prospectus.

Bless your family, sickinmass! Enjoy!

379 SIM 365 - Excellent news! That's a big reason I volunteer with the USO - for the homecomings.

380

i'd lay money down that he's a good man, he deserves better than what's coming, even more than i'm upset about what may happen to me i'm upset about what he's going to have to go thur and he shouldn't have to, not after what he's risked for us all...

 

381

wow i just saw the "bipartisanship" clip of schumer and all i have to say say is.

FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE OF CANCER YOU FUCKING FUCK.

i can't wait to see your smug little face when a couple million people are as pissed off as me.

FUCK YOU!

382 hey sickinmass congrats! i didn't realize you were old enough to have a 20 something son. tell him thanks from a neighbor in ct!

383 Excellent news SickinMass.  Havent' been to Schofield Barracks since 2000.  Used to like going to Hawaii.  Now I hate it since it is the "birthplace" of the one.

384 So will these Senator's and Congressmen have to use the same electronic medical forms and QA stuff that the rest of us will be saddled with come Monday???  How about the first patient that this new medical organization look at is Kennedy and have them do a cost analysis on his sorry ass.  Time for Kennedy to follow Daschle's advice right?!

385 How long can they keep this vote open?

386

Sickinmass, great news on your son! And a big thank you to him and your family from our clan!

And thanks for the heads up on this State's Sovereignty; Az, my state, is one of the ones listed. Think I'll starting making some calls and writing letters to get this heard.

387 That's great news sickinmass, unfortunately for your son the Army manages to turn paradise into hell, everything seems to be uphill, sun blasted, and humid, only in the Army can one say Hawaii sucks.

388 I could fucking cry!!
I am so relieved.. and touched by all your morons' HEARTS!
Thank God you all have one--- not the black hearts of socialist cross-dressing wig wearing pussy commies! Blood truly runs through your veins.
Were going to Hawaii to meet Chris on the 20th. Just booked the flights.
How I wish Ginger could be our entertainment and Hubby carry us safely westward. I can dream, yes?
Chris will be spending a month home (job hunting I hope!) sometime in March.
Thanks Andy! Dinner on me.
CDR M..The 'asshole' was not born in Hawaii. I just don't believe the cocksucker.
About anything.
Thanks to all.

389 SIM.......Shake your sons hand for me and tell him "thank you for your service to our nation"

390 *sniff*
Thank You

391 Count me in as well, give him a big hug and thank him for his service where I could not.

392 France, Germany, Norway, Finland, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Algeria, Morocco, Romania, Kosovo, Panama, Siberia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, Denmark, Kuwait, Egypt, Montenegro,
New Guinea, Indonesia, Thailand, Greece, Russia, Tunisia, Ukraine, Albania, Hungary, Belgium, Austria, Libya, Korea, Japan, Italy and now Iraq..another country free.. once again, courtesy of The United States of America.

393

Amen to Freedom, sickinmass. I hope we still have ours.

BTW: Brown is due on the Senate floor any moment now to cast the last vote. Wouldn't it be delicious if he had some sort of epiphany on the flight back and voted "Nay". A fleeting dream...

394 No, Sherrod will cast his vote and fly back to his Mom's drunken wake.

395 60 ayes - it's official, we're fucked.

396 Anybody hear the oinking comming from the imerial senate and imperial congess?

397 Oh, and they're going to be voting on the "DC Voting Rights Act" when they return. Goodie gum drops. Can't wait until my state presses forth with its Sovereign States Resolution; maybe Congress & WH will get the message when we and 20 or so other states start making demands to get their rights returned.

398 I have really high hopes for that sovereign states stuff going on.  Of course, none of my high hopes have worked out too well lately . . .

399
393

Amen to Freedom, I hope we still have ours.

Cyn, I will NEVER take the mark. I will die before that happens. You cant get into heaven with the mark..and frankly, I don't feel like coming back to this planet after today or any other day.

400 I read it, sickinmass.

401

These people have to go home for vacations and stuff right? Well let's just "flash mob" them.  We hear they are going to be some place in the home state for something we just all show up and disrupt what ever they are doing. Think about how freaked out these guys would get if 500 to 600 people suddenly showup at their house and just walk right in to "discuss" things with them.

We need to put the fear of God in these POS right now! We play by their book now. The gloves need to come off.

These people are evil to the core.

402 That's great news, sickinmass.  You raised a patriot. 
Please add my welcome home to the other's.

403 "We gotta be getting close to a breakthrough though;  Kulongoski only beat Mannix by a handful of votes.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 13, 2009 04:53 PM (E6GUg)"

Yet good ol Ted there in his victory speech said "we've been given a mandate by the people!". 5% ain't much of a mandate there tax n' gouge me Teddy. A mandate to track all our cars via gps apparently too. If I didn't hate WA's politics I'd seriously consider moving to Vancouver.

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