John Lott: Why Doesn't Obama Propose the Stimulus He Actually Campaigned On?

Bait and switch. He promised a much more sensible stimulus with more tax cuts -- and costing only $174 billion -- as Candidate Obama.

As President Obama, he is ramming an $1.3 trillion porkfest on us and claiming the "people have spoken" and have endorsed this plan through their votes.

Actually, to the extent they endorsed anything, they endorsed the more Republican-friendly $174 billion plan.

AP meanwhile actually bothers to fact-check Obama and finds him... less than honest.

At least Route 31 is a road to somewhere.
President Barack Obama had it both ways Monday when he promoted his stimulus plan in Indiana. He bragged about getting Congress to produce a package with no pork, yet boasted it will do good things for a Hoosier highway and a downtown overpass, just the kind of local projects lawmakers lard into big spending bills.
Obama's sales pitch on the enormous package he wants Congress to make law has sizzle as well as steak. He's projecting job creation numbers that may be impossible to verify and glossing over some ethical problems that bedeviled his team.
In recent years, the so-called Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska came to symbolize the worst excesses of congressional earmarks, a device that allows a member of Congress to add money for local projects in legislation, practically under the radar.
Nothing so bold, or specific, as that now-discarded bridge project is contained in the stimulus package. That's not to say the package steers clear of waste or parochial interests. Obama played to such interests Monday, speaking at one point as if he'd come to fill potholes.
A look at some of Obama's claims in Elkhart, Ind., in advance of a prime-time news conference called to make his case to the largest possible audience:
OBAMA: "I know that there are a lot of folks out there who've been saying, 'Oh, this is pork, and this is money that's going to be wasted,' and et cetera, et cetera. Understand, this bill does not have a single earmark in it, which is unprecedented for a bill of this size. ... There aren't individual pork projects that members of Congress are putting into this bill."
THE FACTS: There are no "earmarks," as they are usually defined, inserted by lawmakers in the bill. Still, some of the projects bear the prime characteristics of pork - tailored to benefit specific interests or to have thinly disguised links to local projects.
For example, the latest version contains $2 billion for a clean-coal power plant with specifications matching one in Mattoon, Ill., $10 million for urban canals, $2 billion for manufacturing advanced batteries for hybrid cars, and $255 million for a polar icebreaker and other "priority procurements" by the Coast Guard.
Obama told his Elkhart audience that Indiana will benefit from work on "roads like U.S. 31 here in Indiana that Hoosiers count on." He added: "And I know that a new overpass downtown would make a big difference for businesses and families right here in Elkhart."
U.S. 31 is a north-south highway serving South Bend, 15 miles from Elkhart in the northern part of the state.

First of all, there are earmarks in the bill. Earmarks can be either "hard earmarks" (actually encoded into the legislation) or "soft earmarks" (not actually part of the law, but included in legislative reports strongly signaling to those who will spend the money what Daddy Earbucks wants the money spent on).

The AP is claiming the "usual definition" to be that only soft earmarks are actually earmarks, and thus, the earmarks in the bill being hard earmarks, are not earmarks at all.

That's just not true. Obama is simply lying. There is pork and there are earmarks in the bill. AP's "usual definition" of what earmarks is somewhat unusual in that it's flat-out wrong and a shabby contrivance designed to absolve Obama of the charge of direct and unambiguous lie.

AP is taking a page from Bill Clinton. Is oral sex not sex? Are hard earmarks not earmarks? I would think the terms themselves would answer those questions fairly dispositively. HINT: See the last part of each term.

And, meanwhile, Charles Schumer delcares the country doesn't care about pork.

Posted by: Ace at 03:24 PM

Comments

1 They're not earmarks. They're not appropriations.

What are they?

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at February 10, 2009 03:28 PM (AHrTm)

I bet Hillary's awfully glad that she didn't have to vote on the Porkulus.

I wonder how many current senators are now worried about their political future.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 10, 2009 03:29 PM (hqkvD)

Why Doesn't Obama Propose the Stimulus He Actually Campaigned On?

Ooh! Ooh! I know this one!

It's because he is a liar and a prevaricator!

Posted by: Warthog at February 10, 2009 03:31 PM (WDySP)

$255 million for a polar icebreaker

Well that right there can be cut for sure. I thought the polar icecaps were melting!!!111!!1

Posted by: Andy at February 10, 2009 03:32 PM (WsTw8)

5 To be fair to Schumer, nobody in NY fucking bothers to email or call his dumb ass, so to him that's exactly correct.

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at February 10, 2009 03:32 PM (gIga4)

6 Its time for Schumer to be voted out. 2010 baby. He's gonna be playing hard, we gotta play harder.

Posted by: Iblis at February 10, 2009 03:33 PM (9221z)

7
The press will eventually report on the bill's pork -- the pork added by the Congressional Republicans.

We've seen this scenario played out a million times before. For example, when there are reports of hate-speech left on blogs, the press will cherry the hate-speech allegedly made by the Right.

Posted by: Darling at February 10, 2009 03:34 PM (DqRXv)

8 Pork . . . it's what's for dinner.

For the rest of our lives.

Posted by: Mel at February 10, 2009 03:35 PM (/mFL6)

Obama keep a campaign promise?

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(inhales)

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(gasping for breath)

Oh man, Ace, that may be the funniest thing you've ever suggested.

Posted by: paranoidpyro at February 10, 2009 03:35 PM (RLwyY)

10
btw, stay tuned for a huge hike in the federal gas tax.

Posted by: Darling at February 10, 2009 03:38 PM (DqRXv)

11 Pork . . . it's what's for dinner.

Only for Waffles and the Congress. The rest of us peasants can just watch with our empty stomachs.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 10, 2009 03:40 PM (AZGON)

12 "...Obama is simply lying..."

Well - surprise, surprise. Who knew? That is what he does best and look where it's gotten him. Think that will change? Maybe Jack Cafferty can cover this with his estimable reputation.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 10, 2009 03:41 PM (sI5Ho)

13

btw, stay tuned for a huge hike in the federal gas tax.

And in Illinois, my beloved <sarc alert> home state, they're talking about a 10-cent hike on gas taxes; and in Cook County, where I live, they're talking about imposing yet another gas hike.

Meanwhile, Mayor Daley has refused to release his list of who will be getting money and contracts for the Olympics if they come to Chicago, because "the press will rip it apart."

See John Kass's latest column on this, in the Chicago Tribune. Because if you want to know where Obama is going with all this, look at where--and what--he came from.

Posted by: anonymous american at February 10, 2009 03:46 PM (hC6os)

14 You forgot to thank our friend John McCain for his years of hard work wedging open the non-distinction between "pork" and "earmarks" ("as they are usually defined"), just to make himself look all honorable and shit, for making this kind of obfuscation possible.

Useful cunt, he was.

Posted by: Point at February 10, 2009 03:50 PM (Hc34T)

15 stay tuned for a huge hike in the federal gas tax.

I predicted $.10/gal last year, I may have to up that to $.25-.50

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 10, 2009 03:51 PM (Ygf78)

16 I posted this on another thread, but no one seems to want to answer:

With all this new debt the government is going to be competing for money to borrow to fund it. That's going to suck a HUGE new amount of money off the market. Other borrowing in the private sector will now have to compete for it, so they'll pay more for it. How high are we going to see interest rates go because of this?

Is this the way it will work, or not? I am an admitted moron.

Posted by: nickless at February 10, 2009 03:54 PM (MMC8r)

17 I think Schumer just opened the door for a serious challenge (albeit by a more moderate democrat in the primaries). New York State is going down the shit hole as fast as Michigan is, and it certainly ain't coming back during my lifetime.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 10, 2009 03:55 PM (Ygf78)

Because he is Soros, Dohrn, and Ayers's Manchurian Candidate?

I wonder how all those doctors and hospital employees feel about The One now? Hopefully they aren't deluded enough to still think he gives a rat's ass about "health care."

Posted by: conservative movement at February 10, 2009 03:55 PM (xyyHG)

19 Nickless, you're pretty much on target. The only other option the government will have is to just print more money, which is another way of saying inflation.

Posted by: XBradTC at February 10, 2009 03:56 PM (RzksN)

20 How high are we going to see interest rates go because of this?

That's what the CBO was saying in their analysis. This will suck the oxygen out of the private sector down the road and suppress real long term growth.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 10, 2009 03:56 PM (Ygf78)

21 #16
This may help explain the money fleeing the equities market today. I wish I had never saved for retirement and blown the cash on hookers and Val-U-Rite.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 10, 2009 03:57 PM (AZGON)

22 The stagflation years of the 70's saw interest rates in the close to 20% range.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 10, 2009 03:58 PM (Ygf78)

23 #20
Hello, Japan in 1990. Hello, Mexico under the PRI for decades.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 10, 2009 03:58 PM (AZGON)

24 Thanks guys. It appears even a high-school gradjiate like me can understand the basic cause-and-effect of economics. Why can't the Present-dent?

Posted by: nickless at February 10, 2009 04:01 PM (MMC8r)

Point, you are an idiot. McCain fought pork and earmarks. Just because the American voter isn't generally smart enough to make the distinction certainly isn't John McCain's fault.

Thanks for proving my point that Chuckie the Schmuckie is correct. Even among a hell of a lot of conservatives, pork isn't enough of a concern to get them to vote against Obama in November. And now that those roosters are comin' on home in the porkulus, all "true conservative" tools like you can do is try to bash McCain yet again.

Feeling guilty yet? You damn well should be....but bashing McCain after you helped hand the White House to Obama....pathetic.

Posted by: conservative movement at February 10, 2009 04:06 PM (xyyHG)

26 You know, what terrifies me is that The Nation Below Canada is at the crux of the collapse. Before, if a European nation had imploded financially, or some Pacific Rim nation, the world could weather it out easily, because the economy here between Mexico and Canada was so large and dynamic it could absorb nearly anything. Argentina had a collapse, there was the currency crisis in the nineties in Asia, and so forth. But now...

It's like a family, with squabbling siblings. When Johnny beats up on Jimmy, or Sally gets bad grades, or Nancy wrecks the family car, Daddy and Mommy always remained to clean up the mess, sort out disagreements, and return the family to equilibrium. But now, Daddy USA has gone on a drinking binge, lost his job, and Mommy USA was caught sleeping with hoboes and a goat, while shooting heroin. It won't matter how well Johnny and Jimmy and Sally and Nancy behave, this family is permanently fucked. In fact, now the kids have no check on their behavior.

I think you see the analogy.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 10, 2009 04:07 PM (AZGON)

27 "2

I bet Hillary's awfully glad that she didn't have to vote on the Porkulus.

I wonder how many current senators are now worried about their political future.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 10, 2009 03:29 PM (hqkvD"

Where are those two, how can he kee his mouth shut during allof this when it appears that the special on CNBC tonight is preparing to lay the problem on Andrea Mitchell's hubby.

Posted by: hmmmm at February 10, 2009 04:07 PM (zplc6)

28 Obama did one smart thing with the porkulus. He went to the states and told them to pull out their lists of projects that were ready-to-go and give him a price tag. That way, he could cram money into the bill for "state and local projects" without acknowledging it is pork.

Posted by: Steve L. at February 10, 2009 04:11 PM (Gkhxf)

29 You might think this inane, but heck, if they are going to print money willy nilly then why not completely pay off the natonal debt and do what they are telling Americans to do save and of course the obvious, DON'T BORROW ANYMORE, IF YOU CAN'T PAY CASH, YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT. That is really the slent message they are sending to Americans save your money and don't take on anymore debt.

The othere issue is he wanted the pokulous passed cause a catastrophe was going to happen. Obviously his cabinet member thinks they can take their time. Unless they are talking about two different Catartrophies?

Posted by: hmmmm at February 10, 2009 04:13 PM (zplc6)

30 Hillary definitely made the smart play getting out of the legislative cross hairs right now. She just needs to not fuck up horribly, sit pat, and she'll be a shoe in if Obama pulls a LBJ and declines to run for a 2nd term.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 10, 2009 04:14 PM (Ygf78)

31 @24, that's because you have to pay for this crap. If everyone had to pay taxes - even $100, this crap would stop.

Posted by: MikeH at February 10, 2009 04:15 PM (zqzYV)

32 Feeling guilty yet? You damn well should be....but bashing McCain after you helped hand the White House to Obama....pathetic.

McCain did more to hand the White House to Obama than any conservative voter out there.

Go Fuck yourself with your McCain love.

Posted by: Manco at February 10, 2009 04:19 PM (vAnIE)

33 Quit calling them 'EARmarks'

it's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!

Posted by: mongo at February 10, 2009 04:21 PM (TD1sG)

34 The FBI when they have a particularly good scam artist ultimately has them working for them. Maybe they should track down the boy geniuses who created the instruments and the system and have them unravel it. On more than one blog commenters have said that the creators of this stuff were young amazingly intelligent stanford and MIT types.

Posted by: hmmmm at February 10, 2009 04:22 PM (zplc6)

35 33 Quit calling them 'EARmarks'

it's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!

Posted by: mongo at February 10, 2009 04:21 PM (TD1sG)

You haven't noticed that in the new administration "ears are the new black"

Posted by: hmmmm at February 10, 2009 04:23 PM (zplc6)

36 I predicted $.10/gal [gas tax] last year, I may have to up that to $.25-.50

I wish. Try $1.00 or more. Between the desire to force us into sub-compact deathmobiles and the need for revenue, I predict gas will be pushed to at least $3.00, and possibly as much as $5.00. For our own good, of course.

Posted by: NEPA Dissident at February 10, 2009 04:26 PM (Ohodx)

37 Face it. America as we knew it is over! Ocommunist as President is never questioned by the fawning press and we slip into Fascism. Does it really matter what we say at this point? Pelosi and Reid will just keep screwing those taxpayers that still have jobs until the full on depression hits. Then it will be the Republicans fault as government controlled press will dutifully report. Free elections have been ended by Acorn and soon websites like this one will be shut down due to "unpatriotic motives". This is the end of times.

Posted by: Jim King at February 10, 2009 04:29 PM (k2caC)

Ear marks in a bill are like fleas on a dog. When you have a flea the size of a rhinoceros, why bother with the dog?

Posted by: Voodoo at February 10, 2009 04:31 PM (dvJNC)

39 At least the Coast Guard is something the federal government ought to spend money on - a federal agency that actually serves the entire country. Whether these appropriations will help the Coast Guard is something else altogether.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 10, 2009 04:34 PM (TUWci)

40 95% of the people he promised would be the 95% to get tax cuts have gone missing. The commie is in charge ... the best America, freedom and liberty can hope for is to survive the carnage.

Posted by: bill-tb at February 10, 2009 04:45 PM (7evkT)

41 Richard III: "The world is grown so bad, that wrens make prey where eagles dare not perch".

Posted by: MikeH at February 10, 2009 04:51 PM (zqzYV)

42 Well, well, my hometown (Mattoon) gets national attention. Hello, FutureGen! This oughta give the Journal-Gazette a boner.

Posted by: Chris at February 10, 2009 04:54 PM (2JDda)

"Why Doesn't Obama Propose the Stimulus He Actually Campaigned On?"

Um, my guess is because he is a lying motherfucker.

He had to dupe the sheeple into believing that he was something that he most assuredly is not, so he lied about his fiscal plans.

*Lie* doesn't even seem like a strong enough word, even though politicians always dance around it because it's too "harsh".

Posted by: jana at February 10, 2009 05:02 PM (vSRlG)

*Lie* doesn't even seem like a strong enough word, even though politicians always dance around it because it's too "harsh".

I like "fraudulence" as a replacement for "lie"

From Mirriam Webster:

fraudulence (fraud): a: intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b: an act of deceiving or misrepresenting

Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2009 05:23 PM (hKtiw)

45 Goddamn you AP! YOU put him in! Don't get all facty-checky now! Too late for that!

Posted by: bse5150 at February 10, 2009 05:31 PM (3D+A0)

46 To those people who voted for obama because you thought Sarah Palin was a dumb hick. Well, you can all go doubly fuck yourself for causing this mess. I hope every last one of you loses your job(s), house, cars and are forced to beg on the street. Fuck you all to Hell.

Posted by: Ginger at February 10, 2009 05:31 PM (VjELp)

47 Unbelievable. I just heard Schumer praise Geithner for having little detail yet. He knocks on wood and says we don't have any institutions staring collapse in the face, so we need to take our time and make sure we get this thing right. Not exact words, but that is the gist of it.

It seems like just this morning that we passed a trillion dollars of spending because time is of the essence and we must do something now. Oh yeah, that was this morning.

Posted by: Dave S at February 10, 2009 05:34 PM (Y9eTk)

is the MSM starting to realize that they are made up of citizens who are equally screwed by the bailout? They are all for sweeping the dirt and lying for him until they realize just how screwed, blued and tatooed each and ever one of them is under this corrupt administration.

You wanted this Fraud and now you got him, tough shit for you!. You suffer just like the rest of us. However, the rest of us take comfort in knowing that you happily porked yourself and are just starting to realize it. This turd and other legislation does not only apply to Republicans. Dems and liberals are equally on the hook financially and terorist bombs kill them just as easily as well. If there is a silver lining to be had, this is it. Watching it dawn on blow job givers and trolls just how royally screwed they are is it.

Posted by: depressing at February 10, 2009 06:16 PM (hphNR)

49 Pretty funny that he goes to an Indiana town with 15% unemployment due to they are the capital of RVs, a luxury item that takes a lot of gas to run, and promises these people that his stimulus will help them get jobs back. What these Indiana simpletons don't realize is that when he gets done with his energy policies of cap and trade and carbon credits, people's carbon print will be so big, nobody will buy these, thus putting them out of business.

Posted by: Tom Peak at February 10, 2009 06:49 PM (Hdmrc)

"He promised a much more sensible stimulus with more tax cuts -- and costing only $174 billion -- as Candidate Obama."

You might check the package for the expiration date.

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51 I'm pushing through the trillion dollar stimulus because it's a really big number and I'll be famous forever! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Posted by: The Great and Powerful Ob at February 10, 2009 08:07 PM (yIy7z)

All that's coming to fruition was speculated in the conservative blogs for months. Common-sensers ignored again.

About 15 or so years ago the Libs (Dems) went through a phase where they wanted to "make examples" of anyone disagreeing with them. Small infraction=large punishment. For good cause, of course ( it 'felt' right, if it only saved one life, it was for the children) You may remember, or can figure why that concept fell by the wayside soon enough.

We're in that position now. The POTUS lied to get elected, clearly fraud, and as evidenced the last couple weeks, is not now or likely in the future to"work out". We don't have 100 days to mess with this guy.

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