Leon Panetta…Feckless Crapweasel*

Yesterday Obama’s nominee to head the CIA basically accused the agency he wants to run of violating the law. Today, not so much.

The United States will continue to hand foreign detainees over to other countries for questioning, but only with assurances they will not be tortured, Leon Panetta told a Senate committee considering his confirmation as CIA director.
That has long been U.S. policy, but some former prisoners subjected to the process — known as extraordinary rendition_ during the Bush administration's anti-terror war say they were tortured.
"I will seek the same kind of assurances that they will not be treated inhumanely," Panetta said Friday in his second day before the Senate Intelligence Committee. "I intend to use the State Department to be sure those assurances are implemented and stood by, by those countries."
Panetta formally retracted a statement he made Thursday that the Bush administration transferred prisoners for the purpose of torture.
"I am not aware of the validity of those claims," he said.
Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., chastised Panetta for careless words. "You cannot be making statements or making judgments based on rumors and news stories," he said.

So, is Panetta prone to tossing out inflammatory statements he isn't sure are true or is he willing to shade what he honestly knows to be true for the sake of political expediency? I have to say, neither option is particular appealing in a prospective head of the CIA.

Obama fan girl Andrea Mitchell says CIA leaders were not happy with Panetta throwing them under the legal bus still accused Sen. Bond of, “carrying the water for the agency” when he confronted Panetta.

I’m sure lefties will be satisfied that Panetta is just saying what he needs to say about ‘torture’ and that he’s really on their side. Either way, a guy with little to no intelligence experience has pissed off the people he is supposed to lead by stepping on the biggest landmine out there before he even gets the gig. No, this will work out great. No problems at all.

*As always, thanks to Jonah Goldberg for coining that particular insult.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:46 PM

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1 As I say in nearly every thread around here now, "The more I think there's no way Obama can get any worse, he and his people keep on digging."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2009 12:50 PM (Ekjw6)

2 Feckless crapweasel sounds like a good name for everybody in this admin.

Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2009 12:51 PM (f6os6)

Feckless Crapweasel

Do crapweasels normally have feck?

Posted by: payaso at February 06, 2009 12:52 PM (Qn5/z)

4 Confirmation of this asshole will be a train wreck. If he's approved, get some popcorn, sit back, and watch. This jerk is a political insider of the first order. And his first order of business at all times will be to protect his own ass.

Posted by: GarandFan at February 06, 2009 12:52 PM (237hA)

5 an insult to crapweasels everywhere

Posted by: toby928 at February 06, 2009 12:55 PM (PD1tk)

6 You know what is scary, this doesn't feel like news to me anymore. I'm at the point where the only thing that would surprise me is seeing a story saying, "hey, there's actually a competent adult in Obama's administration!!!".

Posted by: jarod at February 06, 2009 12:55 PM (A23Gx)

7 FWIW, has it been noted here that Leon Panetta means "Lion Sammich" in Italian.......(h/t Protein Wisdom).

Posted by: FreakyBoy at February 06, 2009 12:56 PM (4s1it)

8 We are so screwed.

Posted by: Jo at February 06, 2009 12:57 PM (r4ULk)

9 In Stephen King's book Dreamcatcher, King uses the word "shitweasel" frequently. I don't recall any point in the book where he describes them as "feckless", though.

Of course in King's book, the "shitweasels" are hideous, weasel-like aliens that climb out of people's asses. No, really.

Posted by: Eric at February 06, 2009 12:58 PM (quZLX)

Leon Panetta means "Lion Sammich" in Italian

Are you sure that isn't "lyin' sumbitch?"

Posted by: payaso at February 06, 2009 12:58 PM (Qn5/z)

11 Impeach the fraud Obama!

Posted by: maverick muse at February 06, 2009 12:58 PM (v0oaz)

12 I'm at the point where the only thing that would surprise me is seeing a story saying, "hey, there's actually a competent adult in Obama's administration!!!".

Actually, there is a competent adult in Obama's administration: Robert Gates.

Coincidentally, he's also the only major holdover from the Bush Administration.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 06, 2009 12:58 PM (fHOfh)

13 I wonder if the order will be to cut staff but keep funding around the same to enlarge pionetta's accounts?

Posted by: shim at February 06, 2009 01:00 PM (qB1yC)

If Obambi gets a red rash on his dick, Mrs. O had better check the brand of lipstick in Andrea Mitchell's purse.

Posted by: Murph at February 06, 2009 01:00 PM (WrP0N)

15 So, is Panetta prone to tossing out inflammatory statements he isn't sure are true or is he willing to shade what he honestly knows to be true for the sake of political expediency?

It's a slam dunk.

Posted by: SlaveDog at February 06, 2009 01:00 PM (H6Jyg)

16 Panetta was a useless cocksucking shillboy for Slick in the 90s. Since the CIA showed itself to be a nest of anti-American vipers with the Plame slut and her pretty-boy excuse for a husband, there's a part of me that thinks they deserve Leon. Unfortunately the agency will probably never receive the thorough cleaning out it deserves; in fact under President 666 it will probably be KGB West.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 06, 2009 01:01 PM (Xgw3v)

17 It's a slam dunk.

Classic!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 06, 2009 01:02 PM (epqk/)

Actually, there is a competent adult in Obama's administration: Robert Gates.

Coincidentally, he's also the only major holdover from the Bush Administration.

I was just coming back to point that out. Though I'm not a Gates fan to say the least he is at least a competent adult. Add Gregg to the list as well. Alright, what I should have said was "there's a competent non-republican adult in Obama's administration".

Posted by: jarod at February 06, 2009 01:02 PM (A23Gx)

19 Either way, a guy with little to no intelligence ~~experience~~ has pissed off the people he is supposed to lead by stepping on the biggest landmine out there before he even gets the gig.

Fixed that for you.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 06, 2009 01:07 PM (ScoG3)

20 Iowahawk : Dead Hobo Reporting Glitch Claims Another White House Appointee

Ace's appointment is doomed.

Posted by: toby928 at February 06, 2009 01:08 PM (PD1tk)

As always, thanks to Jonah Goldberg for coining that particular insult.

did he include his normal line after an insult or difference of opinion - to be fair there are a number of reasons that they may think this way and some of them legitimate .

Posted by: polynikes at February 06, 2009 01:08 PM (m2CN7)

22 At this point, even passing the "stimulus" wouldn't be viewed as a win.

If he doesn't get a handle on things, his administration will start eating each other alive, attempting to avoid the stench of the crap of the crapweaseling.

Mwahahahahahaha!

Posted by: AmishDude at February 06, 2009 01:09 PM (T0NGe)

23 The CIA has been pretty anus for at least ten years now. Unless Obama tabs a totally incompetent hack for the position we should see some improvement.

Oh wait a second....never mind.

Posted by: Shtetl G at February 06, 2009 01:13 PM (Klu8T)

24 Well The One and his crew
Came on bicycles too,
Which the greenies had somehow invested in.
And they're trying to makeover
And later take over
The country that they're all infested in.

It's a scheme of devices
That hides all the prices
And kickbacks from under the table.
Which tickled jihadis
And imams and mahdis
Cuz they know it's all just a fable.

Posted by: alycan at February 06, 2009 01:14 PM (Il2Ep)

25 The Student Council at my daughter's high school is a more mature, honest and intelligent group than O's administration.

Posted by: LAsue at February 06, 2009 01:14 PM (fNPWd)

Panetta has isolated himself now from the people in the CIA whom he was expected to lead. This, combined with the fact that Obama is going to hamstring our efforts in the War on Terror ... and the fact that Panetta is fucktard lacky who's not even qualified to be in the CIA anyway - these things will ensure that our CIA is IMPOTENT for the next four years.

God help us.

Posted by: HondaV65 at February 06, 2009 01:15 PM (8NiWI)

27 Ace's appointment is doomed.

Only if he fails to disclose all dead hobos in his apartment/evil Dr No-like dormant volcano lair.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 06, 2009 01:17 PM (fHOfh)

28 Why would the U.S. turn over its prisoners for questioning about their intentions to harm the U.S.?

Isn't that a job for U.S. Americans?

Golly!

Posted by: Smarter at February 06, 2009 01:17 PM (JPKWk)

29
"Can't nobody here play this game?"

My principal worry, though, is that if even the Republicans have figured out that The One can be rolled, Putin, Ahmadinejad, and the rest have figured it out as well. We've traded the strong horse for My Little Pony, and our enemies will waste no time taking advantage of that fact.

Thanks, 52. Thanks a lot. Assholes.

Posted by: Brown Line at February 06, 2009 01:17 PM (VrNoa)

30 These people are making George Bush look like George Washington.

Posted by: The Obvious at February 06, 2009 01:20 PM (1g+FW)

Feckless and impotent are what O finds attractive in an intelligence agency.

Posted by: huerfano at February 06, 2009 01:21 PM (knHvu)

32 The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...

*thump*

*thump*

Man, it hasn't even been a month into the Era of Hope & Change, and look where we are... or maybe it's the *Error* of Hope & Change...

Posted by: GuyfromNH at February 06, 2009 01:26 PM (faJDZ)

Panetta said, however, he believes the greatest weapon the United States has against terrorists is its moral authority and commitment to the rule of law.

Yeah that has them shaking in their boots. In fact now that the terrorists know that they'll probably all surrender this weekend.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 06, 2009 01:29 PM (1Jaio)

34 8 We are so screwed.

To do list:

1. buy more guns
2. buy more ammo
3. lots more ammo
4. stockpile food
5. work on fallout shelter in basement

On the positive side, at least we don't have to waste our time at protests holding up giant paper mache puppet heads.

Posted by: shibumi at February 06, 2009 01:30 PM (tZB/c)

35
Poonetta

_©Dang

Posted by: Dang at February 06, 2009 01:30 PM (Y5LIx)

36 I had Dean Wormer put Panetta on double secret probation.

Posted by: Gregory Marmalard at February 06, 2009 01:33 PM (ad8lc)

37 This is why I'm now refering to it as the Obama Badministration. The best of Carter and Clinton terms, without the charm, intelligence, or honesty.

Posted by: gridstar at February 06, 2009 01:34 PM (MjiZI)

38 "Panetta said, however, he believes the greatest weapon the United States has against terrorists is its moral authority and commitment to the rule of law."

well that, and the......COMFY CHAIR!!!!!!!1!!!!!11

Posted by: buster mcDissenter at February 06, 2009 01:35 PM (ZS5Bn)

39
Noooobody expects moral authority and the commitment to the rule of law!

Posted by: Dang at February 06, 2009 01:42 PM (Y5LIx)

"Panetta said, however, he believes the greatest weapon the United States has against terrorists is its moral authority and commitment to the rule of law."

Awesome. Then I guess we don't need the CIA at all. Thanks Leon!

Posted by: VJay at February 06, 2009 01:42 PM (gQ+XA)

41 Leon Panini...he's cheesier.

Posted by: nickless at February 06, 2009 01:43 PM (MMC8r)

42 Panetta? Obama is a fucking little jerk and whoever doesn't realize this fact is a fucking little jerk. City dwellers are fucked.

Posted by: shim at February 06, 2009 01:45 PM (qB1yC)

"...based on rumors and news stories."

There's a difference?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2009 01:46 PM (ZGhSv)

44
City dwellers are fucked.

By the time they figure this out, it'll be too late.

Ya get what ya vote for.

Posted by: Dang at February 06, 2009 01:53 PM (Y5LIx)

45 This has always been a stupid policy. We don't torture people because we are oh-so-pure and moral, and because we claim it doesn't work. But we know that's a lie, so we outsource the torture to people less hypocritical than we are. But we make them promise that they won't use torture, while knowing full well that's the reason we sent them there, and that our hired hands will say whatever we want as long as they get paid. And we can't even trust the torturers because they aren't really on our side anyway. Fuck it. Keep the prisoners here, torture them here, and stop lying about it. Nobody believes us anyway.

Posted by: lmg at February 06, 2009 01:55 PM (A/vgC)

46 Having Panetta run the CIA would be like me running a law firm: Yeah, I'd be sitting in an office with a nice desk and chair, but I still wouldn't have any real experience in a court of law. That makes me qualified how?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2009 01:56 PM (ZGhSv)

Dear Ace of Spades Inter-Net Blog,

I was tortured too, and I was told to contact you for the lawsuit. I used to like salsa music but now hearing Tito Puente makes me afraid. I deserve compensation.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 06, 2009 01:56 PM (5KNeJ)

48 In fairness to Panetta, the headline should read, "Feckless Crapweasel or Lying Douchefucker?"

Posted by: the real joe at February 06, 2009 01:57 PM (2t2zK)

49 As a Missourian, I have to say that Kit Bond has displayed extraordinary badassitude recently, and I am sad that he is not running for reelection.

Seriously, he's EVERYWHERE right now because he just doesn't give a damn what he's caught saying anymore. It's awesome.

Posted by: Tori at February 06, 2009 01:57 PM (Q2LOv)

I posted this comment under the never-ending campaign thread before this one appeared:

The words of CIA Director-wannabee Leon Panetta:

(On the accusations he made yesterday that Bush rendered terrorists to other countries to get them torutred) "I am not aware of the validity of those claims."

Translation: You know, I think maybe what got Nixon in trouble was that sometimes he spoke a bit too straightforwardly, don't you guys agree?

"I think they made some wrong decisions, I think they made mistakes," he said. "I think sometimes they believe the ends justifies the means, and that's where people sometimes go wrong." He said he thinks that in the fear of another 9/11-style attack, Bush administration officials thought, "We can't be bothered with legalisms."

Translation: Legalisms rock!

"The sense that we were willing to set that aside (US moral authority and commitment to the rule of law) did damage our security."

Translation: As Director, CIA, my job #1 is to look out for the moral authority of this country... hell, nobody else in this administration ever bothers to explain the moral high-road stuff for you rubes.

Could we burn up the phone lines and get this idiot nomination filibustered, please?

Posted by: sherlock at February 06, 2009 02:02 PM (N7uu0)

51 "Feckless Crapweasel"

It's not "cock smoking douche tool" but it's not bad....

Posted by: drjohn at February 06, 2009 02:02 PM (zFwOz)

52 Oh, so the Messiah wants to export the dirty work to the swarthy unwashed masses of the Third World, huh?

Well... ain't that Mighty White of him!

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 06, 2009 02:14 PM (iafWn)

Then I guess we don't need the CIA at all. Thanks Leon!

Bingo, that was the entire purpose of his nomination. To gut it.

Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2009 02:15 PM (f6os6)

I'm sorry. Didn't rendition start on under Bill FuckStick Clinton when that Obama Ball Gargeling Scumbag Panetta was Chief Of Staff. It's just a question.

(ACLU) Fact Sheet: Extraordinary Rendition (12/6/2005)
"Beginning in the early 1990s and continuing to this day, the Central Intelligence Agency..."

Skip a bit brother Maynard

"...The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton. Following the attacks of September 11, 2001"

Posted by: AllahGator at February 06, 2009 02:18 PM (Cy5K8)

Mr. Panetta is from the district just north of me here in California (think Ft. Ord). In his role as State rep for many many years, he performed honorably and honestly....

He should go back doing what he knows, and leave the intelligence game to the intelligent..

Posted by: SSG David Medzyk at February 06, 2009 02:23 PM (F47Pv)

56 Yeah, I'd be sitting in an office with a nice desk and chair, but I still wouldn't have any real experience in a court of law. That makes me qualified how?

Oh, trust me, you'd be over qualified.

Posted by: alexthechick at February 06, 2009 02:34 PM (NuqWW)

(49's) broader point--If you don't have to sweat coming back, you can do the right thing...The beauty of Term Limits.

Posted by: AllahGator at February 06, 2009 02:37 PM (Cy5K8)

58 That's not the crapweasel I knew....

Posted by: ford at February 06, 2009 02:39 PM (Ki7fm)

59 Confirmation of this asshole will be a train wreck. If he's approved, get some popcorn, sit back, and watch. This jerk is a political insider of the first order. And his first order of business at all times will be to protect his own ass.

And watch for another 9/11 to happen to us...

Posted by: Buck Naked at February 06, 2009 02:40 PM (utes0)

60 Fortunately there is nothing for terrorists to blow up where I live, but my parents live within a couple hours of Dearbornistan, MI.

Posted by: J David at February 06, 2009 02:42 PM (RIEpA)

Fortunately there is nothing for terrorists to blow up where I live, but my parents live within a couple hours of Dearbornistan, MI.

They'll be completely safe.

Posted by: EC at February 06, 2009 02:52 PM (mAhn3)

62 #33 -- Have we finally deployed the AGM2009 MORAL AUTHORITY system?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 06, 2009 03:00 PM (dHTH5)

63 Here's the thing, all Panetta had to do was make generic stateements 100% in favor of Mom, Apple Pie, and the Flag and he gets confirmed.

Yet he deliberately picks a fight with the CIA. On his confirmation hearings. Panetta don't draw a breath without Obama telling him it's OK.

And Obama in the IL Senate and US Senate has a habit of ducking fights, confrontations, voting present, and saying anything (see the campaign promise thread).

Now, by my count, Obama has picked a fight over the Spendulus bill, over the Fairness Doctrine, a personal fight with Rush, a fight with the 9/11 families and Cole survivors over what amounts to releasing the guys at Gitmo (so says Andrew McCarthy and he should know), ...

and the CIA.

Which has a habit of leaking like a sieve to every journalist in town, who owe them favors and can't just shut them out (otherwise no goodies later) and start off figuring that Obama will throw them under the bus for prosecutions for pouring water up KSM's nose or being rude to Jihadis.

ANY attack on the US, and now the CIA will leak ALL SORTS of embarrassing info on Obama "knew" ala the infamous CYA memo presented to Bush. Obama ain't stupid -- he saw this already with Bush.

It's two weeks plus, Obama is fighting a four front front war (Reps over the Spendulus, Fairness, Gitmo and the 9/11 Families, the CIA). The latter arguably hamstrung GWB.

Obama is not stupid politically, you don't win from nowhere the Presidency without counting votes damn well.

Posted by: whiskey at February 06, 2009 03:16 PM (L03mw)

64 He's a fine crapweasel. I'm sure he'll be Craptacular, just like Teh One.

Posted by: sixpckr at February 06, 2009 03:26 PM (jyGLF)

65 My theory about Panetta is that he's there to be a figurehead who can be fired when the CIA gets outed for still doing what they'd been doing under Clinton and Bush. (And maybe more. Don't be surprised if the CIA goes back to assasination "without the President's knowledge.")

The office should come with a nice big sword to fall on.

Posted by: Eric j at February 06, 2009 03:29 PM (7t+Ws)

#23 "pretty anus for at least ten years now"

I've never seen 'pretty' and 'anus' in the same post--here--before.

IANAL Butt. I don't think they stay "pretty" for ten years. That's what I heard.

Posted by: comatus at February 06, 2009 03:33 PM (j4glz)

To the tune of Mojo Nixon's "Redneck Rampage"?

Posted by: Chas at February 06, 2009 03:37 PM (1XTjz)

68 The CIA needs someone who puts the protection of the people of the U.S. ahead of politics Panetta is a political hack. His nomination is just one more fuck up by The One.

Posted by: Reiver at February 06, 2009 03:40 PM (+Je7m)

"...but only with assurances they will not be tortured..."

Markie Marxist sez: "Cool! As a Marxist, I just love it when I see free government benefits extended to anyone, but it's especially gratifying to see my fellow Democrat/Marxist friends extend such assurances to our fellow anti-Americans, our Jihadi allies! We're really running America now! Ha! Ha! All your terrorists are belong to us! And we plan to be really nice to them! Ha! Ha!"

Posted by: Chas at February 06, 2009 03:46 PM (1XTjz)

70 Probably best for the guy in charge of intelligence not to shoot his mouth off about stuff without thinking it through and studying it carefully first. Just a thought.

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