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Chuck Schumer: Americans are "Overwhelmingly" for Stimulus
Americans: Yeah, We'd Like to Have a Word With You About That

They're so "overwhelmngly" in favor of it they're jamming Capitol Hill phone lines to say how awesome it is.

The number is (202) 224-3121 if you want to jam the lines further. You could dial them up directly, but their voicemails are full, too. So, as Instapundit says, find the number for their local office and call them there.


Thanks to CJ.

Oh: Does this mean that Republican Congressmen can, in fact, "just listen to Rush Limbaugh?"

Reid: I believe two Republican Senators of "good will" will vote for the spendulus.

On the other hand, not Jim Webb has jumped on the bandwagon-- softly -- and says he wants at least $100 billion excised from the spendulus.

Also at the Corner-- Martin Feldstein, who had previously been liberals' favorite conservative economist due to his announced support of some kind of stimulus, is no longer their favorite conservative economist. As he calls the spendulus an "$800 billion mistake."

You want stimulus? Increase the rate of procurement for the military, baby:

On the spending side, the stimulus package is full of well-intended items that, unfortunately, are not likely to do much for employment. Computerizing the medical records of every American over the next five years is desirable, but it is not a cost-effective way to create jobs. Has anyone gone through the (long) list of proposed appropriations and asked how many jobs each would create per dollar of increased national debt?

...

A large fraction of the stimulus proposal is devoted to infrastructure projects that will spend out very slowly, not with the speed needed to help the economy in 2009 and 2010. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that less than one-fifth of the $50 billion of proposed spending on energy and water would occur by the end of 2010.

If rapid spending on things that need to be done is a criterion of choice, the plan should include higher defense outlays, including replacing and repairing supplies and equipment, needed after five years of fighting. The military can increase its level of procurement very rapidly. Yet the proposed spending plan includes less than $5 billion for defense, only about one-half of 1 percent of the total package.

Infrastructure spending on domestic military bases can also proceed more rapidly than infrastructure spending in the civilian economy. And military procurement overwhelmingly involves American-made products. Since much of this military spending will have to be done eventually, it makes sense to do it now, when there is substantial excess capacity in the manufacturing sector. In addition, a temporary increase in military recruiting and training would reduce unemployment directly, create a more skilled civilian workforce and expand the military reserves.

Alas, Obama is ideologically committed against measures that would actually stimulate the economy.

Ed Morrissey made a similar point yesterday. In a lot of cases, spending on big-ticket military platforms like the F-22 is slowed down over a period of years to reduce per-year cost. However, that also increases the per-unit cost, as the factories are running just enough to keep them open at all.

If we're going to buy X number of F-22's over Y years anyway, why not just hasten that purchase so that we buy the same number in fewer years? Not only is it an actual timely in-the-now stimulus, but we're going to buy them anyway, and further, the actual price per plane will go down.

Plus, yeah-- as Feldstein notes, due to military rules and security concerns, almost every single part in a military tech buy is made here in America.


Posted by: Ace at 01:48 PM



Comments

1 Since to Schumer any publicity is good publicity, he must think jammed switchboards at the Capitol equate to "support."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 05, 2009 01:51 PM (epqk/)

2

Chuck Schumer - proving once again that being a drooling stupid worthless fuck doesn't keep anyone from becoming a US Senator.

P.S. I don't like him.

Posted by: Murph at February 05, 2009 01:53 PM (WrP0N)

3

Chuckie “the cheese” Schumer is an even bigger liar than Reid.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2009 01:55 PM (f6os6)

4 Somebody needs to audit Schumer.

Posted by: Jubal Anderson Early at February 05, 2009 01:56 PM (krKUp)

5 "And chuckie was plucky, he kept right on"

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 01:56 PM (zplc6)

6 There are two things that keep me from running for congress...

1:  I like to have INTELLIGENT conversations with people...

2:  I like to hang out with a better class of people. 

Posted by: FORGER at February 05, 2009 01:58 PM (NMNMW)

7 Not a fan of hill but wow was it a truly brilliant move to take her out of the senate.

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 01:59 PM (zplc6)

8

What the fuck, Chuck?

 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 05, 2009 01:59 PM (wgLRl)

9 In hindsight, how can anyone blame Hillary for bolting the Senate?

Posted by: Techie at February 05, 2009 02:00 PM (906oR)

10 Ole Chucky needs some stimulus. Mental stimulation. With a cattle prod. To the private parts. Where he keeps his brain.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 05, 2009 02:02 PM (ZGhSv)

11

Democrats don't piss down your back and tell you it's raining  --  they piss in your face and tell you it's raining.  What fucking nerve on this guy.  WTF.

Posted by: Eleven at February 05, 2009 02:03 PM (7DB+a)

12

FUCK YOU CHUCK YOU SCHUMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Clarity in communication is of the essence in these situations.)

Posted by: Chas at February 05, 2009 02:04 PM (1XTjz)

13

Speaking of Harry Reid he is saying that those people holding the meeting behind closed doors trying to negotiate reducing the bill were not going to get shit. He said HE was going to pass the bill “as is” and he had the votes needed already.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2009 02:04 PM (f6os6)

14

The president dismissed calls by Republicans for more tax cuts to be included in the stimulus plan.

“Those ideas have been tested and they have failed,” said Obama today as he addressed Department of Energy employees at their headquarters in Washington. “The scale and scope of this plan is the right one.”

 

Yeah Barry, because the 80s were such an economic waste land.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 05, 2009 02:04 PM (1Jaio)

15 Chuckie's problem is that he so desperately want to be a part of the "cool kids" and they don't want him but they still allow him to be their head cheerleader.  When is he going to notice that he never gets asked to the fun stuff like the cabinet?

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:04 PM (zplc6)

16 I've tried to call the above Congressional number a couple of times today, and I have not been able to get through.  Obviously, they need to take some of that money from the "stimulus" and add more phone lines to hear from the American people that are against it.

Posted by: smartsy at February 05, 2009 02:05 PM (pq986)

17 Let us not forget that the majority of the jobs in infrastructure have been recommended to be only a majority black workers. The ACORN funding is still intact. Etc etc etc

I hope no Republican senators vote "aye" on this country-destroying package, but I'm not holding my breath.


Posted by: HadEnuff at February 05, 2009 02:05 PM (dlM7f)

18 16 smartsy

get your Critters direct phone line here:



Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at February 05, 2009 02:07 PM (Nz/1w)

19 13

Speaking of Harry Reid he is saying that those people holding the meeting behind closed doors trying to negotiate reducing the bill were not going to get shit. He said HE was going to pass the bill “as is” and he had the votes needed already.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2009 02:04 PM (f6os6)

Yep and the minions are all over the media proclaiming this now and knowing they will all make their vacation plans.  It was easy, all they had to do was minimize the Rasmussen poll as a "flash poll" that really isn't viable.

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:07 PM (zplc6)

20 update form MM

Pls call these critters and say NO:

I’m told that the Squishy Four are (no surprises here):

Collins (202) 224-2523
Snowe (202) 224-5344
Voinovich (202) 224-3353
Specter (202) 224-4254



Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at February 05, 2009 02:10 PM (Nz/1w)

21  my critters, per the operator, have the phone off the hook.   All phones, eveywhere.  They bounce back the emails via mailer deamon.  Just waiting to get my letter back now. (undeliverable as addressed)  I'm getting a complex, why don't they want to know what I think?  After all, they are spending the money of my future great great great gand babies!

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:10 PM (zplc6)

22

“The scale and scope of this plan is the right one.”

 "The scale and scope of this plan is the right one, because I said so, bitches!" 

They left off the rest of the quote.  I just wanted to fix it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 05, 2009 02:10 PM (epqk/)

23 If in fact there are "2 Republican senators of good will" who are going to vote for this turd....

They need to be targeted for defeat in the next primary or recalled(if possible).

Target them now and keep on them.

Posted by: rinseandspit at February 05, 2009 02:12 PM (ao5cQ)

24 See, once they pass it, that's it, until they have the next "emergency".  Why don't they put it to a vote.   On Streetsigns they are asking you to go to their website and vote your thought on the bill. 

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:15 PM (zplc6)

25 Marty!  You son of a bitch.  I didn't think you had it in you to oppose THIS stimupalooza.

Martin Feldstein matters because he's a member of the "Group of Thirty" where Volcker and Geithner both originate.  Think of "Group of Thirty" like they are the Project for a New American Century, but instead of defense policy they are focused on monetary policy.

Group of Thirty website: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/bs6gl2">link</a>
Group of Thirty Wiki entry: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5hvwjj">link</a>

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at February 05, 2009 02:17 PM (AHrTm)

26

F-22 Raptor:  made in America.

Seawolf class attack submarine:  made in America.

 

What's the fucking problem, Obama?

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2009 02:17 PM (mAhn3)

27 “The scale and scope of this plan is the right one.”

That's why most of the spending is for permanent programs that have nothing to do with 'stimulus', and most of it is going to be spent way after the recession is over.

Fuck you, Obama, you lying thieving cunt.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 05, 2009 02:19 PM (OXBI4)

28 Thanks #20 and #21!!

I've tried to call their offices and I either get a voicemail notifying me that their mailbox is full, or I get a busy signal.

Time to get a post on all of the major websites that alerts people that they cannot get through to their Representatives in Congress.

Posted by: smartsy at February 05, 2009 02:20 PM (pq986)

29

Gibbs: A Dem president talking to Repubs is “bi-partisanship”. We have tax reductions in the bill, as requested by the R’s” it’s just that our tax cuts are targeted toward the middle class who need help. Hahahahaha

 

A new definition of “middle class”; people who are eligible for EIC.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2009 02:21 PM (f6os6)

30 Hell, start up the A10 assembly line again. Hogs rule.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2009 02:22 PM (CLh15)

31

From Bloomberg.com

Senator Susan Collins, a Maine Republican leading a push to strip billions from the plan, said lawmakers are “very leery of having an enormous package” that is “just a collection of everyone’s favorite programs.”

Collins said after a meeting that the bipartisan group hasn’t decided how much they will seek to cut. She said she would not support a plan as large as the $819 billion package approved last month by the House of Representatives.

 

Really? I've never been leery of having an enormous package. (Rim shot)

 

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 05, 2009 02:23 PM (1Jaio)

32

More Gibbs

The president "inherited a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit".

Our meconomy "could have been a lot better".

In other words, IT'S BUSH'S FAULT.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2009 02:23 PM (f6os6)

33 Why does the federal government just by everyone a US made hybrid automobile ?  Or make it a swap for a large SUV.

Posted by: Neo at February 05, 2009 02:25 PM (Yozw9)

34 The president "inherited a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit".

So let's make it twice as large ?

Posted by: Neo at February 05, 2009 02:26 PM (Yozw9)

35 Chuckie's problem is that he so desperately want to be a part of the "cool kids" and they don't want him but they still allow him to be their head cheerleader.  When is he going to notice that he never gets asked to the fun stuff like the cabinet?

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:04 PM (zplc6)


The last thing a President needs is a cabinet member that desperately needs more camera time than he does.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2009 02:26 PM (Xgw3v)

36 You can also send emails via congress.org.

Posted by: Jo at February 05, 2009 02:28 PM (r4ULk)

37 Best press conference -- ever.

This White House press guy sure gets frustrated easily.

Posted by: mesablue at February 05, 2009 02:28 PM (5yNaE)

38 37 Best press conference -- ever.

This White House press guy sure gets frustrated easily.

Posted by: mesablue at February 05, 2009 02:28 PM (5yNaE)

Didn't we know that on the first day when he let the entire world know that he got the super sekret memos that day?

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:34 PM (zplc6)

39
Just got through to Voinovich's office and they say the opposing calls are about 65% and the opposition is growing daily.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2009 02:35 PM (Y5LIx)

40

Holy crap.  I went to congress.org and the first thing I see is Henry "Pig Face" Waxman.  I will have nightmares now.

Posted by: Jewells at February 05, 2009 02:35 PM (l/N7H)

41 O/T:  Seems like the market was headed to a third testing of the low when all the rumors started about the "mark to market" stuff and the "bill won't be passed stuff".

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 02:36 PM (zplc6)

42

You know, a thought just occurred to me.  Rare enough of a thing that I had to share it:  I believe (as do many much smarter folks than me) that this whole economic snafu was caused by the government (specifically, but not limited to, the government's guaranteeing of bad credit housing loans).  To my mind, this means if the government wants to help the economy, it should STOP doing stuff, rather than doing MORE stuff.  Want to help?  Start REPEALING legislation, not writing more. 

No doubt, there are things the government could do to ease the economic pain without just making more of it down the road.  But it's a given that's not going to happen.  So let's just stop with the legislating and start repealing existing laws that got us here.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 05, 2009 02:46 PM (ltwze)

43 Spartans, ready your breakfast, and eat hearty, for tonight we dine with Pelosi!!

Posted by: biscuiteater at February 05, 2009 02:48 PM (2JF/+)

44 Stimulus: the $800 billion anal bead.

Posted by: U.S.S. Yorktown at February 05, 2009 02:49 PM (5RlWq)

45 Pelosi to the American people, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHxIssSROjk

Posted by: biscuiteater at February 05, 2009 03:05 PM (2JF/+)

46 O/T:  some headlines are just too funny and since New York is chuckie's home state thought I would alert you to a headline at dealbreaker: Penthouse Arrest For EVERYONE!

Posted by: hmmmm at February 05, 2009 03:08 PM (zplc6)

47 Cantwells mailbox is full. Patty Murray, mom in tennis shoes, did however get a message.  I was surprised by my civility.  I'd really rather throw tennis shoes at her.

Posted by: Derak at February 05, 2009 03:14 PM (8wxBZ)

48

>>Increase the rate of procurement for the military, baby

 

Fucking-A Right.  It's obvious and simple, with nothign but up-side, but ideologically opposed by the left, so it has no chance.

 

Fuck you 52%ers... I fucking hate you.

Posted by: Terry at February 05, 2009 03:23 PM (RNENT)

49

How come there aint more talk about Chucky dropping the dime on that Kalifornya bank that got this big ball rolling?

Still looking for video of Chucky out there in the West with Harry Reid stuffing money in his pocket getting input for online gambling legislation. C'mon someone out there must have him on video.

Posted by: Dennis at February 05, 2009 03:38 PM (HPd5W)

50 does the tinyurl no longer work?

Posted by: biscuiteater at February 05, 2009 04:00 PM (2JF/+)

51 If you asked Robert Gibbs if there was a budget surplus during the 8 years of the Clinton administration I bet he'd tell you there was.

The problem with that.  It's a myth.  President Clinton didn't have one balanced budget, let alone a budget surplus, in his 8 years.

Last President to do that was Ike.

Posted by: WTF Capital Investments at February 05, 2009 04:16 PM (AHrTm)

52 The proposed digitization of medical records would mostly be done overseas 2nd world countries, and not creat new "data entry" temp jobs in the USA. Privacy concerns be damned also.

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