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Weren't 'extraordinary renditions', the process of sending bad guys to 3rd countries who aren't so squeamish about roughing up suspects, one of the crimes of the Bushitler Reign of Evil?

It seems however now that Obama is in charge, perhaps a more nuanced view is in order.

Under executive orders issued by Obama recently, the CIA still has authority to carry out what are known as renditions, secret abductions and transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the United States.
Current and former U.S. intelligence officials said that the rendition program might be poised to play an expanded role going forward because it was the main remaining mechanism — aside from Predator missile strikes — for taking suspected terrorists off the street.
...The European Parliament condemned renditions as "an illegal instrument used by the United States." Prisoners swept up in the program have sued the CIA as well as a Boeing Co. subsidiary accused of working with the agency on dozens of rendition flights.
But the Obama administration appears to have determined that the rendition program was one component of the Bush administration's war on terrorism that it could not afford to discard.

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No word yet on if Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have signed on for Rendition II: The Most Important Tool In Keeping America Safe!!111!!

The Pro-Torture Left [ace]: I don't want to hit the hypocrisy button very hard, or else the hypocrites on the left may feel the need to pretend they care about this issue and press Obama to change his stance.

However: Moe Lane names the new members of the pro-torture left.

Let me give a special shout-out to the first member of the inaugural class of Obama-supporting torture-enthusiasts: Andrew Fucking Sullivan.

Posted by: DrewM. at 05:38 PM

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Posted by: Dang at February 01, 2009 05:41 PM (Y5LIx)

Yet another statement from President Teleprompter that came with an expiration date.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 01, 2009 05:41 PM (wgLRl)

3
why is this a surprise?

Posted by: Dave C at February 01, 2009 05:42 PM (m3+n5)

4 I'm beginning to think that somewhere in the Oval Office, President Crypto Fascist Muslim has a Magic 8 ball that advises him on policy.

Do I favor torture? No
Do I favor extra ordinary renditions? Yes
Do I favor immigration reform? Ask again later
Do I want bipartisanship? Maybe

In this context, everything President Idiot has done makes complete sense.

Posted by: shibumi at February 01, 2009 05:49 PM (tZB/c)

How long can the MSM cover up the fact that this guy they got elected is an arrogant asshole?

Posted by: sherlock at February 01, 2009 06:01 PM (8V5Ut)

6 You mean all that liberal screeching for the last eight years was just so much bullshit. I'm shocked to my core.
Well , not really , what I am is filled with loathing for all those sick fucks on the left.

Posted by: aubrey at February 01, 2009 06:02 PM (SlTd3)

7 The next four years will be a hoot. Welcome to bizarro world gentleman. The Age of Obamaquarius.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattadropolis at February 01, 2009 06:03 PM (hjBEe)

Unlike some of my hypocritical conservative liberal batshit-crazy brethren on the hyperpatriotic right center left any port in a storm as long as it sanctifies my right to wear a dress and marry another man, I am happy to personally take custody of anyone subject to rendition.

Must like holding hands, long walks on the beach, and beagles.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at February 01, 2009 06:10 PM (wgLRl)

9 The MSM has too much invested in Obama to turn on him.
We tend to underestimate the power of the media, even if they have lost the information monopoly. They - news shows, Hollywood, academia, them what shapes teh culture - still have tremendous power in shaping popular opinion. That is why a good part of the nation turned against Bush, even if objectively in general and especially in the WOT, he performed well. The average shmuck would not be able to give you specifics as to why Bush is bad, unless they are repeating talking points that have been spoon fed to them for 8 years. That is why Obama will be able to do pretty much what he wants in any area, with nary a peep from the douchebag MSM.

Posted by: the real joe at February 01, 2009 06:11 PM (udP/u)

10 Bush III

Posted by: toby928 at February 01, 2009 06:15 PM (PD1tk)

11 Fuck that cock-gargling Sullivan.

Him I WOULD fucking punch in the mouth if we ever meet.

Posted by: UncleFacts at February 01, 2009 06:22 PM (M+Vfm)

12 But you must remember the nuances! It is Obama doing the renditions, not Sarah Palin and that is why I still want him to ask me to Prom!

Posted by: Kathleen Parker at February 01, 2009 06:25 PM (Rbulg)

13 Kathleen you are 100% right, but you are a bitch! HE will take me to the Prom!

Posted by: Peggy Noonan at February 01, 2009 06:25 PM (Rbulg)

14 Ain't the media kinda like high school?

Posted by: mrcaniac at February 01, 2009 06:26 PM (Rbulg)

Let me see if I got this right.

1. Lie like a dog for eight years.

2. Tell everyone what they want to hear.

3. Then do everything that your predecessor did. Remember, it will be better because you are doing it.

Ok, I'm ready to go. What do I do first? Run for state senator?

Posted by: Harry at February 01, 2009 06:28 PM (RxSlU)

16 Said it before, will say it again:

"Perhaps to be Teer is to see in new ways."
--Maab. Friday's Child, Star Trek TOS.

Posted by: A Berman at February 01, 2009 06:33 PM (Hy63R)

17 He's gotta send that mother in law somewhere.

Posted by: hutch1200 at February 01, 2009 06:51 PM (TjzIc)

18 It's like they just assume that these countries' political systems are going to do the "right thing".

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at February 01, 2009 07:00 PM (GvgvT)

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Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at February 01, 2009 07:01 PM (miw86)

20 I pledge... to use the thumbscrews more.

Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at February 01, 2009 07:04 PM (iGDA4)

21 That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass.

Posted by: Have you got Prince Albert in Cannes? at February 01, 2009 07:11 PM (4gHqM)

22 Will we ever really know what he is doing? Will the media rat out his "reditions"and other classified programs the way they did Bush?

Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 07:11 PM (f6os6)

23 So this is a good thing really? Lets see how the new administration puts these tools to use before we get all the thrills goin up the pant leg. These and in the patriot act along with the NSA wire tapping practices are a stalinist wet dream.

Posted by: Jack Squat at February 01, 2009 07:18 PM (K4Zxt)

Sure, Vic. After monkeys fly out of Sullivan's butt.

Posted by: Fernandozer at February 01, 2009 07:18 PM (uHvsp)

25 "Do you have info/intel that will serve YOU well, to have me take you off this battlefield?" ..."No, OK"..bang" Next.

Posted by: hutch1200 at February 01, 2009 07:23 PM (TjzIc)

WASHINGTON – The "War on Terror" is losing the war of words. The catchphrase burned into the American lexicon hours after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, is fading away, slowly if not deliberately being replaced by a new administration bent on repairing the U.S. image among Muslim nations.

Since taking office less than two weeks ago, President Barack Obama has talked broadly of the "enduring struggle against terrorism and extremism." Another time it was an "ongoing struggle."

Struggle against terrorism and extremism? I wonder why Iran senses weakness coming from Washington.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2009 07:28 PM (zdp75)

27 You know what the Arabic word for struggle is?

Yep. "Jihad."

Posted by: AmishDude at February 01, 2009 07:44 PM (GlrN/)

28 OK, so the great big moral difference between President Bush and Former President-elect Obama is that Obama makes other countries do the dirty work FOR us?

And this helps our image in the eyes of those countries HOW, precisely?

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 01, 2009 07:50 PM (iafWn)

29 Soon it will be known as "the effort against bad hugs and touches." Or "the effort for." Things could go either way with this administration.

Say, when's Obey-ma going to do his first "state of the nation" speech in a cardigan? You know he gets cold, even with the thermostat turned all the way up. I see him in a nice fawn cashmere with tortoise shell buttons.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at February 01, 2009 07:52 PM (vLf8O)

30 This POTUS is like dating a lesbian. You never know which way they'll go, but it's fun to watch.

Posted by: hutch1200 at February 01, 2009 07:54 PM (TjzIc)

To get all Jesus on ya read 2 Corinthians Chapter 11. The payoff:

13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen masquerading as Apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Another good one, guess the movie:

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

Posted by: ErikW at February 01, 2009 08:15 PM (hKtiw)

Join with me in learning The New Math. It's easy if you try: W + x = Hitler. O + x = Jesus.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 01, 2009 08:15 PM (69J41)

JINX! Wow, what are the chances?

New Math indeed...

Posted by: ErikW at February 01, 2009 08:24 PM (hKtiw)

Another good one, guess the movie:

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

Mamma Mia?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 01, 2009 08:31 PM (MKNSy)

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Posted by: hutch1200 at February 01, 2009 08:35 PM (TjzIc)

Sully's pro-torture now? Suddenly my Hewitt Award seems tarnished somehow.

Posted by: Velociman at February 01, 2009 08:35 PM (PmNq+)

37 The usual suspects. No I didn't have to look it up. Spacey in the interrogation office.

Posted by: hutch1200 at February 01, 2009 08:36 PM (TjzIc)

38 Maybe the recent on Mad Magazine is accurate after all. BHO may have had a reality check.

But I still don't trust BHO -- and never will.

Posted by: Always On Watch at February 01, 2009 08:42 PM (caS5O)

39 21 That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass.

Posted by: Have you got Prince Albert in Cannes? at February 01, 2009 07:11 PM (4gHqM)

Had Clinton done that in 96, when Somalia offered up Osama, we likely wouldn't even have a WoT.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 01, 2009 08:45 PM (odYmd)

40 And this helps our image in the eyes of those countries HOW, precisely?

The fat bribes we'll be plying them with will impress them quite a bit.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 01, 2009 09:03 PM (Ygf78)

41 Hey, maybe we're all just right-leaning democrats.

Posted by: nutmegory at February 01, 2009 09:04 PM (2bYlb)

The usual suspects. No I didn't have to look it up. Spacey in the interrogation office.

I have a Quartet whiteboard just because.

Posted by: ErikW at February 01, 2009 09:08 PM (hKtiw)

43 Personally, I would prefer being rendered to the Egyptian Secret Police... instead of having to read Daily Dish.

I'll spill like an upside-down pitcher, I swear.

Posted by: Osama Bin Laden at February 01, 2009 09:29 PM (AZGON)

44 I learned something new from that lefty list. Duncan Black still blogs. How about that?

Posted by: nino at February 01, 2009 10:34 PM (p9Hzw)

45 Photoshop Bush and Cheney faces on Barry and Captain Vice General Joe "Sparkplug" Biden.

Send to Kos.

Posted by: eman at February 01, 2009 10:41 PM (ZsOIJ)

46 Watching this douche for 4 years -hopefully, just 4 years- is going to be fun. Not as much fun as watching the MSM swallow his Bush policies jizz, but hey, whatever works.

My new sister-in-law is sweet, albeit a flaming liberal. When I spoke to her before the inauguration, all she would opine is that "I have a lot of faith in Obama." I told her that I did, too: Obama would likely continue most of Bush's policies that she wet her pants about the last 8 years, but she would be okay with it. Somehow, i don't think that I'm her favorite brother-in-law right now. Then again, she'll probably tell me at the next family get together how peachy Bush's Obama's policies are.

Posted by: physics geek at February 01, 2009 11:02 PM (JotYN)

Q: What was legal, then called a crime and then suddenly legal again?

A: Alcohol, before, during and after Prohibition.

Also Rendition, during Clinton, then Bush and now Obama.

Posted by: Noel at February 01, 2009 11:11 PM (4gHqM)

48 Of course, after we kidnap them, we can... well, sit there and stare at them...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 02, 2009 12:03 AM (DBS+D)

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Posted by: Amanda at February 02, 2009 01:01 AM (SXosX)

Obama would likely continue most of Bush's policies that she wet her pants about the last 8 years

As much as everyone on the Left would like to paint the election as a Bush referendum, it was more about how many stupid people there are in America. No one in their right mind could hae believed that a guy with ZERO experience could actually have a clue about how to run this country. It really didn't matter what he said. People were eating it up with a spoon. They wanted to believe in unicorns and rainows, so they did despite knowing better. Now, they're getting their unicorn for sure. The only thing is that its the horn and where they're getting it isn't exactly where they wanted it.

Posted by: Steve L. at February 02, 2009 07:05 AM (Gkhxf)

51 Thats which was started by KING WILLIAM THE FINK will be continued by OBAMASES THE GRAPE

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 02, 2009 10:27 AM (EJfnH)

So, under the enlightened rule of the One, we won't interrogate people in an environment where we can control exactly what goes on. Instead we will outsource them to our less squemish allies and let them get the information we want however they like. OK, I am cool with this, but how is this morally superior to Bush? Oh, yeah, it is just shiny and pretty because the One says so.

Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at February 02, 2009 11:12 AM (LjGIk)

53 >Do I favor torture? No
>Do I favor extra ordinary renditions? Yes
>Do I favor immigration reform? Ask again later
>Do I want bipartisanship? Maybe

You forgot one:

"Am I going to be reelected in 2012?" Outlook not so good.

Posted by: salfter at February 02, 2009 01:16 PM (3oAad)

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