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Reid: If Non-Stimulative "Stimulus" Stalls, Credit the GOP

Why thank you, Harry.

As the $820 billion stimulus package heads to the upper chamber, Senate Democratic leaders are launching a pre-emptive strike.

In a Thursday afternoon news conference, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid urged Senate Republicans not to line up against the bill, and says Republicans will be blamed for any delay in the landmark economic legislation.

“If we don’t [pass the bill], it’s not our fault, we’re trying,” Reid said. “The president has done a remarkable job covering all the bases on Capitol Hill.”

And Senate Vice Chairman Charles Schumer said that any GOP effort to lay the blame on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for failing to win was “very unfair.”

Republican Senators are meanwhile pushing tax cuts and mortgage rate cuts for credit-worthy borrowers. From 5% to 4% federally-guaranteed 30-year-mortgages.

Which seems to address the problem more directly than spending $50,000 for two dog parks in Lewiston, Maine. And $500,000 for one dog park in Chula Vista, CA.

Other dogcrap spending can be found at StimulusWatch.

Posted by: Ace at 07:45 PM



Comments

1 Hey Harry, Newsflash for you you fucking retard, if it's SOOOO GOOOOD, why wait for some Republican's, pass that shit sandwich and OWN it you fucking weasil!!!  You don't need a single fucking weak knee Republican for this.  OWN IT!!!  I dare you you slimy piece of shit.  You don't want to share it with the Republican's because you are feeling nice and shit.  Since when did the Democrat's want bipartisianship if they didn't need it????  Huh mother fucker!?

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 07:49 PM (TJoU6)

2 I do like the lowering of the mortgage rate.  I'd do it now but I'd have to put another 20% down to avoid PMI.  Kinda caught between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 07:51 PM (TJoU6)

3 Those supercollider scientists now admit that the beastie could create black holes that last up to a minute. Ain't got nothing on the black hole that Barry, Harry, and Nanny are cooking up.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2009 07:54 PM (miw86)

4 It almost seems as though the dems want Miss Nancy and Sir Harry to look bad.   Just can't figure out why.

Posted by: Hmmmm at January 31, 2009 07:59 PM (zplc6)

5 Black holes leak Hawking radiation.  Does Barry's?

Posted by: Jimmy at January 31, 2009 07:59 PM (/Ft4q)

6

 

After the meager compromises are approved and several stupid Republicans vote for the faux stimulus bill, the Democrats will blame the Republicans for its failure "to stimulate" because it was under-funded.

In other words, Obama and the Democrats know it's going not to stimulate anything except Leftists pet-projects and they want just a smidge of non-consequentail input from the Republicans so they can blame them when it fails.

Mark my words: In 2010, the meme from the Dems will be "the stimulus didn't work becaue it was under-funded, thanks to the Republicans."

Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 08:01 PM (736T6)

7 I'm all for putting the supercollider underneath the Capital Building and getting rid of some 535 pieces of shit in a black hole.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:01 PM (TJoU6)

8 What the fuck is this jackass talking about? The Democrats have overwhelming majorities in both houses and the fucking presidency.

Other than that they have absolutely no influence or responsibility whatsoever.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 31, 2009 08:02 PM (hlYel)

9 Darling, that's why the Republican's need to vote no UNLESS it is THEIR plan.  Otherwise, they're dead come 2010.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:03 PM (TJoU6)

10 Republican Senators should ask Reid "You want intelligent review, or just jump on your bandwagon?".

Fuck Harry Reid.  Have his fellow Democrats pass the crap sandwich.  They are trying so hard to get Republican cover on this bill.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 31, 2009 08:03 PM (237hA)

11 The Dems want Reps on this for one reason only, TO BLAME.  Anything in this bill that does any good will get credited to Obama, Reid and Pelosi.  Anything negative will be hung around GOP necks NO MATTER WHAT.  Hold the line or cease to exist has a viable second party.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:05 PM (TJoU6)

12 You mean after straining every sinew to grab the reins of power they're afraid to exercise said power .  What a bunch of gutless weasels .
Apologies to actual gutless weasels.

Posted by: aubrey at January 31, 2009 08:07 PM (KQb4B)

13

 

It's going to pass. The politically prudent thing for the senate Republicans to do is 1) simply explain to the American people that it will not stimlualte the economy and it will cost more jobs, rather than create more jobs, and 2) tell the American people how every dollar of the $820 billion is going to be spent, and 3) just vote against it.

It doesn't take an economist to know this stimulus bill will fail epically. If any Republican votes for it because they are intimidated by Obama's approval ratings, they are incompotent nincomfuckingpoops and should be removed from office.

Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 08:09 PM (736T6)

14 Well said Aubrey, well said.  I've told everyone I know that if the Dems really wanted to, Obama could've signed this bill last week if it was that critical that it get signed.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:09 PM (TJoU6)

15 "Stimulus is in the eye of the beholder," Reid said
WTF????????????????Revolution is the answer.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 31, 2009 08:09 PM (/i4dU)

16 I'm shocked at the lack of consideration for our canine partners on this blog!

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 31, 2009 08:10 PM (Ygf78)

17 Leadership means making the hard decisions.  Our Democratic overlords can't seem to make a decision without a Republican holding their hand.  Pretty pathetic.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:11 PM (TJoU6)

18 Interesting website. But I notice that the jobs 'created' are government jobs. The gift that we keep on giving.

Two dog parks in Maine for $50,000 creates two jobs. How? It creates a hole which the local gov't has to fill.

Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2009 08:11 PM (FcR7P)

19 I thought you were joking about the fucking dog park.  Holy crap.  I could use a new doorbell though.  One that plays La Cucaracha.

Posted by: SalvucciFumbles at January 31, 2009 08:11 PM (QlEFH)

20 I'd swear "Brownie" is still in charge of FEMA based on the Kentucky response.  How did he get a job in the O's administration?  Not pay his taxes?

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:14 PM (TJoU6)

21 La Cucaracha was not funded.  However, it does come with "somewhere over the rainbow" with a Unicorn hologram!

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:15 PM (TJoU6)

22

 

Also: I'll bet there is a dirty little secret in Washington right now that Harry Reid cannot guarantee that all of his Dems will vote yes for the bill.

You don't think Kent Conrad or Tim Johnson, for example, are scared to death of the consequences of this bill? How about that ne senator from Alaska?

 

Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 08:17 PM (736T6)

23 re:supercollider.. They are spending entire budget to repair it. Where is the money to start it up next year? I doubt it will happen.. after we become a black hole. And I don't mean Michelle Klingon.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 31, 2009 08:18 PM (/i4dU)

24 Dog parks? For $50, not 50 mil, I'll shit in my yard. Before my asshole neighbors dog, on a leash does.

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 08:18 PM (8/sTS)

25

Those supercollider scientists now admit that the beastie could create black holes that last up to a minute

More like a second but that's still scary shit.

Remember when Oppenheimer and the guys were working on the Manhatten Project? There was a concern that detonating the bomb could ignite the atmosphere.

They lit the fucker anyway.

I'm sure the guys at the LHC will be warming up the magnets anyway.

Posted by: ErikW at January 31, 2009 08:19 PM (hKtiw)

26

 

btw, how do you think that little weasel dink, Joe Lieberman, will vote on this?

 

Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 08:20 PM (736T6)

27 Any Republican Senator who votes for this crappy stimulus bill should be Lynched.

Posted by: Matt at January 31, 2009 08:22 PM (0oQRq)

28

For the Mil junkies. When an officer consistantly endangers his men, unneccasrily, Don't the "frag" him. Which if I understand it correctly, he has an "accident".

Reid: "Charge unarmed men, hopefully the enemy will eventually run out of bullets!!"

Boehner" Fuck you, (Bang)

Edumicate me please.

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 08:23 PM (8/sTS)

29 Who do you scream at for getting a shit sandwich? The waitress or the chef ?

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 08:25 PM (8/sTS)

30 What fund did the 93K "petty cash" raise come from for our esteemed legislators in Congress come from?

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:25 PM (TJoU6)

31 I think President Government and Washington, D.C. should proceed as follows:

1) Invest in a giant fish market for tuna and call it a tourist destination.
2) Charge for tuna-licks - double the rates during tuna shortages.
3) Profit.

It's a plan based on the Underwear Gnome Model, except that Step 2 is defined.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 31, 2009 08:26 PM (sI5Ho)

32 Where can I get my $2,600 check?

There are about 200 million individual income tax returns filed each year. For $800 billion, we can send each filer $2,600 and change. At least I'd get something out of that better than a crap sandwich.

Hope and Change!

Posted by: Indythinker at January 31, 2009 08:27 PM (M3hG/)

33 Hey Harry, what did you spend your 93K on???  How about the rest of you libtards??  The Repub's should take that money and pool it and do something very nice for the electorate.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:30 PM (TJoU6)

34 There was a concern that detonating the bomb could ignite the atmosphere.

I wouldn't say they were concerned.  There was speculation that the chance of a chain reaction igniting the atmosphere was not zero, although they all agreed it was too small to calculate. 

Posted by: toby928 at January 31, 2009 08:30 PM (PD1tk)

35

1)Is theft even illegal anymore?

2) I know if I use a gun at a bank, it's jail time. But what if I lie on a loan application? Isn't that FRAUD? Can I get an equity loan on my neighbors house, without his knowlege?

3) Can I get in trouble for getting a credit card in an unborn childs name?

 

I know the IRS will fuck me if I claim too man kids, but what about question #3?

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 08:35 PM (8/sTS)

36 #33 CDR M. Why not pool the money for the underfunded, last I knew, WWII Memorial?      Home fucking run! 

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 08:37 PM (8/sTS)

37 This $93K doesn't count the new $1,000 freezers to be installed in their offices either!

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 31, 2009 08:37 PM (Ygf78)

38 Exactly Hutch.  What a PR stunt that would be and then compare what the Dems spent it on like new flat screen TV's (didn't Jesse Jackson Jr do that last year?), digital convertor boxes (I kid!!), etc.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:39 PM (TJoU6)

39 $1000 freezers????  Are they fucking connected to the internet so they can vote from their office from there and do online banking (so they can avoid the Cold Cash Jefferson issue of having to go back for the cash)?

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:40 PM (TJoU6)

40 Wow, that pic of Michael Phelps smoking a bong is pretty wild.  I guess Mary Jane IS a performance enhancing drug.  No wonder that dude ate like 10 pizza's a day.

Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 08:42 PM (TJoU6)

41 Leftists NEVER own their shit. They always blame something else for their collossal failures and then redouble their efforts; doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. They are insane.

Posted by: SGT Ted at January 31, 2009 08:43 PM (PdOj3)

42 Wait a gottdamned minute here. The Dems OWN the Senate with a 57-41-2 majority, and the two so-called "Independents" (Joe Liebermann and Bernie Sanders) caucus with the Dems, making it a 59-41 majority.

Not only would they be able to pass any legislation they want, they only need a single crossover (such as McMaverick) to beat any potential filibuster.

But not getting legislation (that hasn't even been introduced yet) passed is the fault of the Republicans?

More of that Democrat Leadership that will lead us right over the cliff into "Abandon All Hope" territory."

Posted by: Drumwaster at January 31, 2009 08:56 PM (Ymor3)

43 the cfr needs to cough up a new fear tactic.  they already used "martial law", which is a precursor for the real thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QukHh-Pn5B0

Posted by: Duesa at January 31, 2009 09:10 PM (Srqga)

44

"...it's not our fault were trying"

own up to something you fucking little twerp.. i hope you choke on the barbed cock of satan.

Posted by: unamerican libertarian formerly known as e.koenig at January 31, 2009 09:18 PM (2J+Vs)

45 It's going to pass. The politically prudent thing for the senate Republicans to do is 1) simply explain to the American people that it will not stimlualte the economy and it will cost more jobs, rather than create more jobs, and 2) tell the American people how every dollar of the $820 billion is going to be spent, and 3) just vote against it.

Bingo.

The key to taking Congress back in 2010 is very simple: force every single one of the f'ing Blue Dog Obamacrats to demonstrate that, when they claimed to their constituents that they would oppose wasteful spending, keep taxes low, and insist on pay-as-you-go rules, they were lying through their teeth.

The Republicans have exactly the right idea. Let the government take the actual responsibility (and loss) for the mortgage problems that it created in the first place. Cut the actual tax rate on people who are working, IMMEDIATELY putting money into their paychecks, and leave the "tax credit" crap somewhere else.

The hilarious part is that the Obama Party's only response to this is that lowering tax rates on working people would "cost too much". They're ready to throw over a trillion dollars away on welfare, but they are pinching every penny when it comes to actual working people? If the Republicans can't make hay of that, they deserve to lose.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 31, 2009 09:25 PM (SFs3T)

46 Cut payroll taxes for workers. ALL fucking poeople that get a paycheck. Remember they outnumber maggots.... 5%, 10%, (whatever amount) more cash will show up next payday. Not 7 years down the road, MAYBE.

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 09:41 PM (8/sTS)

47 You guys should be very afraid. They are going after street hookers in Ohio.

I really can't see how reducing the number street girls could be part of a stimulus package.

stimulus....get it?

package....get it?


Posted by: DavidF from Oz at January 31, 2009 09:43 PM (hUeBV)

48
If the Republicans can't make hay of that, they deserve to lose.

Can't? More like won't.

Michael Steele's first order of business should be to educate the American people on this shitty bill that will do far more harm than good.


Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 09:51 PM (736T6)

49 I'm really surprised at myself, but.., I'm starting to feel genuinely sorry for Obama. I think the guy is in just WAY over his head, he's surrounded by a bunch of academics that never worked an honest job in their life, his campaign set him up as a Messiah and now he has incredible expectations to meet with a dog of a stimulus bill, an utterly misguided foreign policy approach, no real understanding of the security threat the country is facing:

He's in for a hard, hard fall. It's kind of sad.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2009 09:56 PM (iafWn)

50 I LOVE the mortgage plan!  I'll be the first to sign up! Finally, they are rewarding hard work and responsibility.  Hey, they might even win a election or two with an attitude like this.

Posted by: PJ at January 31, 2009 09:57 PM (fyFnu)

51 Senator Reid is one of those wretched people who through a combination of conniving, backstabbing, and an almost total lack of ethics can rise to power but never really gets anything done and it is always someone else who is to blame. The Reid-Pelosi congress is the worst in our history and they're laying it all out on display to show everyone just how bad they can be.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2009 09:58 PM (PQY7w)

52
Oh, and the next thing on Obama/the Dems to-do list: amnesty for illegals. In the next couple of months, we'll have 30 million new citizens in this country.

Wait. Won't the Democrats have to answer to their constituents as to how this will stimulate the economy especially since we are heading towards double-digit unemployment and taxpayer-funded healthcare for everyone? Nope. After the passing of the stimulus and the spineless Republicans not demanding investigations into election fraud, ACORN is going to be well-funded and immune to prosecution.

The Democrats will be in power until, well, the end of our great republic. It's over, folks. There is nothing we can do.

Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 09:59 PM (736T6)

53
I only hope McCain and the other pieces of shit in the GOP live long enough to see what happened when they reached across the aisle.

Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 10:01 PM (736T6)

54 Himmm Himm Himmmmmmmm,     Fuck him

Posted by: MAJHAM at January 31, 2009 10:21 PM (krSaF)

55 He's in for a hard, hard fall. It's kind of sad.

I would be more sympathetic if he weren't taking us all down with him.

But this is the way America learns. Every three or so decades, we apparently need a Carter-esque character to exploit every stupid prejudice the electorate holds, get elected, screw up massively, and bring the Republic back to cold hard reality.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 31, 2009 10:27 PM (wkt/o)

56 If the American People paid more attention to the actions of the worthies in Washington than they do to American Fucking Idol, those crooks would all be in the slam.  Let's call this what it is-- rank corruption. If, when doing my department's budget at work, I tried to slip in some money for my dry cleaner, they'd fire my ass, as well they should.  We need full disclosure and an attentive citizenry.  I ain't holding my breath

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 31, 2009 10:30 PM (fWF4Q)

57

Senate majority leader Harry Senile is an idiot. Threaten them with not getting any credit for this shit sandwich. What's even funnier is how Dems, the President and their corrupt cronies that benefit from this piece of shit are stepping up the pressure on Repubs to pass it. If any Repub ever had a doubt if they are doing the right thing not supporting this, the increase in pressure to pass it when they aren't needed should tell them its the right thing to do. Dems eager to share credit with a Republican to the point they threaten and pressure them, that's desperation.

Dems and Pelosi were very adamant and very public that Repubs had no say in what went in this. Not once did Pres. Ego say " I want bipartisanship" while this turd was being written. The only part of this porkfest he wants to be bi partisan is when it comes to blame. If this bill is so damn terrific, why are they pressuring Repubs to support it? STFU and pass it without them. You've been telling us you can and will do so, so put up or shut up! You own this shit sandwich 100% Dems and Pres. Farquad

Posted by: Assholes, the lot of them at January 31, 2009 10:34 PM (hphNR)

58 Someone remind me, it's still illegal to shit in a box, and mail it the Senate Democrats right?

Posted by: UncleFacts at January 31, 2009 10:37 PM (M+Vfm)

59 The goal of the Dems is simple. Make enough people financial dependent on the government that it equals an electoral plurality. Once they have that majority voting themselves "bread and circuses" on the backs of the working minority, our system is no longer "going to collapse", it already has collapsed, and the global collapse will not be far behind, delayed by only a bit, yet just as inevitable. Think "Fall of the Roman Empire", and the centuries that followed it.

The fall may take anywhere from a few months to a few years, but it will happen.

Start learning a useful trade, folks. Canning food, perhaps. Carpentry. Gun manufacture and repair. Hunting Democrats for fun and profit.

Posted by: Drumwaster at January 31, 2009 10:39 PM (Ymor3)

60

27 Any Republican Senator who votes for this crappy stimulus bill should be Lynched.

===

so should any Democrat who votes for it

Posted by: Assholes, the lot of them at January 31, 2009 10:42 PM (hphNR)

61 He's in for a hard, hard fall. It's kind of sad.
 
But this is the way America learns. Every three or so decades, we apparently need a Carter-esque character to exploit every stupid prejudice the electorate holds, get elected, screw up massively, and bring the Republic back to cold hard reality.

Obama is a political ninja, raised from an early age to be the left's stealth Palpatine.  He's doing a pretty fucking good job: he's been president for just a few days and he's already got the Congress looking at passing the biggest bunch of the left's entire nice-to-have list since LBJ as a "stimulus", at a cost at least equal to a protracted land war in Asia.

I mean, seriously.  That's a taste deez nuts resume item for sure.

I think he's in over his head, eggheads, and I agree that he'll pretty much fuck up royally, etc., but if American politics was capture the flag he'd be a few feet from his base with our flag and already thinking about tucking into some waffles.  I hope we're playing best of three.

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Posted by: ddd at January 31, 2009 10:48 PM (GIlwU)

63 That might be called Nike sneakers? You mean you don't know?

I blame Obama for your ignorance.

Posted by: UncleFacts at January 31, 2009 10:55 PM (M+Vfm)

64

I'm waiting for Mexico to collapse into a great big shit pile. The fun will really start when every Mexican with half a brain and some sense of self preservation takes it into his head to pack up the family and trek north to get away from the violence.

When that happens and they litterally start over running our border states the shit is really going to hit the fan. It will not be pretty at all. On the plus side when we on the right finally win, we need to make sure that we round up every left wing activist, proffessor, politician, and community organizor and shoot them. Publically. In the Head. Repeatedly.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at January 31, 2009 11:06 PM (ZuhVS)

65 The Donks offered up a shit sandwich, and the reubs didn't even get the choice of bread. Let's get this out there. Dennis Miller, I'm looking your way.

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 11:09 PM (8/sTS)

66

Every time the commies talk about this bill they talk about “infrastructure” which has replaced “the children” as the code word for we want to spend gobs of money on socialism.

 

I have been through about 200 pp of the bill so far Id’ing where the money is going.  True, there are a lot of instances where they specify building stuff, however, most of that building is for government buildings (which will have some pol’s name on it of course).

 

In addition, where true “infrastructure” is ID’ed (not counting high voltage power lines) they spend money in “relatively small chunks measured in the hundred million range.

 

Most of the huge money measured in the billions of dollars range go into the typical communist programs for social welfare and to the bogus war on energy that they have declared.

 

Ant Republican that votes for this abortion should be hounded out of office.

 

So far I have NOTHING in the bill worthwhile to spend money on.

Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 07:24 AM (f6os6)

67 Is anything the Republicans fault? Harry Reid is a fucking loathsome troll. He's like that kiss-ass/teacher's pet we all wanted to see on the playground after school for trying to make the rest of the class look bad. I swear the dems could hold 100% of everything (which is what the ultimately spooge themselves over in their bunks every night) and still point the finger of blame to us.

When's that revolt group meeting up? I'm so there.

Posted by: Stitches at February 01, 2009 08:12 AM (KyqYb)

68

Vic, any politician that votes for this shit snadwich should be voted out of office, Democrat or Republican. Though we expect a shit sandwich from Dems, they should be booted just as much

Posted by: yawn at February 01, 2009 08:48 AM (hphNR)

69

shitsenders.com might get the job done

or you can join the Tea Bag Protest at fedupusa.org

Posted by: scrood at February 01, 2009 09:17 AM (1dOyI)

70 This current congress/administration is like an extended version of "Bring your child to work day".

Posted by: BearMtnBob at February 01, 2009 09:21 AM (hrb2V)

71

Yawn; I agree

 

Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 09:23 AM (f6os6)

72 Bring your retarded child to work and put him/her in charge of the office...

Posted by: scrood at February 01, 2009 09:50 AM (1dOyI)

73

(I'm gonna try this again with that &&$*$ tinyurl thing)

To take care of this infestation of dickwipes, it looks like we're gonna need a bigger Roomba...

Posted by: sherlock at February 01, 2009 09:55 AM (8V5Ut)

74 "Those supercollider scientists now admit that the beastie could create black holes that last up to a minute. Ain't got nothing on the black hole that Barry, Harry, and Nanny are cooking up.
"

Black holes are as scientifically sound as AGW. Scientists admit that the supercollider COULD create a black hole? It's an interpretation of a mathematical expressions but the interpretation should have caused people to question the long chain of reasoning and the mathematics that lead to that interpretation. They're constantly saying that they have indirect evidence that black holes exist and they're starting to claim there is "direct evidence" (even though it's indirect) but the same evidence better supports other theories of physics (plasma physics) than the theory of black holes. There are too many contradictions with observed facts to support the assertion of black holes existing. And there is less evidence that the stimulus package will work.

Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 10:26 AM (n82VB)

75

And there is less evidence that the stimulus package will work.

 

Actually the evidence from history is that not only will packages like this NOT work, but they will actually do harm to the long term economy.

 

Harry Retard and the rest of the economies will make the argument that the Repugs are “blocking recovery” or some such horshit as that. They will even try to make out like they are listenting to the Repug concerns and they will remove the few hundred million given to ACORN while leavingthe untold BILLIONS going into the AGW scam and pure social welfare.

 

I repeat people, there is NOTHING in this bill worth saving. The few hundred million in actual road and bridge construction projects could get by just fine if the spent the highway funds on them like they are supposed to. That is what the gasoline and highway related taxes are FOR. Instead they have turned them into a general slush fund for pork and inner city mass transit.

 

The so-called “smart grid” is a reward to the “greens” in the NE and West for blocking of ANY power plant construction. The rest of the country wilol have to pay taxes (and increased rates) in order to wheel power thousands of miules to these areas that want NOTHING in their backyards. I say fuck them and let them go dark.

 

This bill needs to go down in its entirety. There is NOTHING that they could do to it to make it worthwhile.  

Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 10:35 AM (f6os6)

76 " Vic at February 01, 2009 10:35 AM (f6os6)"

I agree with everything you say. There is ample evidence that the "stimulus" package will damage our economy for years to come.

Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 11:05 AM (n82VB)

77

"You're not invited to help write or make comments on this pile of stimulus shit.  Further more, you will vote for it"

Ding Dong Dingy Harry, Senator

Posted by: Sparky at February 01, 2009 11:19 AM (J1f2W)

78 All you people here need a bath or shower...I smell body odor and it stinks like the dickens!

Posted by: Harry Reid, at February 01, 2009 11:21 AM (J1f2W)

79

Fox just reported Netflix profits up last quarter by 45%. This about the third of fourth company they have reported with profits being up. They keep saying that these companies are doingbetter because of the “bad economy”. They can rationalize just about anything to a “bad economy”. Its funny that the ONLY time I have ever heard ANY news media talk about a “good economy” was during the 2000 election talking about Clinton.

 

The fact is that the only part of the economy that was in bad shape to begin with was housing and banking and both for the same reason, Communist interference in the markets. By screaming EMERGENCY every five minutes in order to get the first bailout and the Vomit elected they scared everyone else into laying off people and the public into stopping spending.

 

Their actions were the equivalent of yelling “fire” in a crowded theater and everyone that did that should go to jail.

 

The Vomit is already saying it will take “years” to recover. LOL, the average recession since WWII takes 8 months for recovery to start. I guess he is counting on this bill to really tank the economy for a long time just like his communist hero FDR. A new excuse for ushering in communism.

Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 11:23 AM (f6os6)

80 Here's a bipartisan suggestion:

IF Dems insist on a trillion dollar deficit, at least DOUBLE the Defense Budget!

Defense contractors have hundreds of subcontractors, the employee thousands of unionized blue collar workers, they do R&D that spins off into commercial products. Of helps science, it creates high value jobs. War spending ended the Great Depression...

So what argument can Libs make against MORE?

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Harry is more stupid than a skunk which got ran over by a semi, but he now realizes the republicans don't own one slice of bacon or a pork chop in the shit sandwich. It's all owned by Queen P,  Prince Harry, and the new Messiah.

Why would one republican in the house or senate vote for the massive pork giveaway? Anyone who does will show they are more stupid than the democrats.  They don't have one word in the entire bill since the 'chosen one' and his minions locked themselves in a room and produced the big fart heard round the world.

Meanwhile people in Ky are freezing, and soon will be starving, to death and FEMA is no where to be found. The gov (D) came out today and lied his ass off about assistance from the 'Messiah' and his merry band of criminals. They may be in the governors mansion eating $100 per pound steak but they aren't on the street helping the people. I live in an adjoining state and work in Emergency services (Fire Rescue). We have not mobilized one unit to assist them because we have not been asked for assistance. But then we have a (D) governor/DNC chairman/lying POS, and any out of state assistance would interupt the cash flow of tax money to his personal bank account.

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His continued reelection in itself tells us that we should require voters not be brain-dead before voting.

Harry, just remember this when America kicks your sorry arses out in 2010.  Of course by then with the MSM's help he will be proclaiming that he was leading the fight against this disaster.


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(yawn) Vic has the long & short of it right there. FWIW, Instahoozit sez NetFlix' days are numbered due to new gadget that sends bit torrent free movies direct to big screen TV. But doesn't NetFlix have the edge there, with a superior library? If I worked over there I'd have the glue and tweezers out to work on my Business Model.

We all know (because of the joke AP article during every Security Review) that the US military has a plan to deal with invasion from Canada. So we can safely presume there is one, dating to the Zimmerman Cable at least, for repelling invasion from Mexico. One wonders if we have a comparable plan for dealing with a fast and unprecedented political merger, like the one most of Mexico would fervently desire when their state admits failure. That would come under the State Dept, not the Pentagon, on a good day. Shame. The Army was just getting really good at nation building, and State doesn't really have the track record. Never one to let a good crisis go to waste, I feel some good could come of it, if we just don't panic. I'd prefer to have a President who was smart enough to be bi-lingual to manage that, but we wasted that asset.

 

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Just think how delicious it would be for the Republican senators to lock arms and all vote against this Obamanation of a porkfest. Make the Dems own it. They should. After all, even The Vapid One© has said this might not work.

I could dip a certain section of my anatomy in it.

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http://tinyurl.com/d8lny2

So are we counting every assembly line job for 5 minutes for this? Or what?

I also like how the most expensive project is going to Puerto Rico.

I'll probably pick it apart a bit more and use it in class this week. If I find anything else fun I'll post it.

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87 "War spending ended the Great Depression... "

It's not as simple as that. It was the deregulation of the manufacturing industries that had more to do with it then government spending. The government was already spending on WPA projects AND let's not forget lend/lease. It wasn't till we had to go full scale that FDR loosened his draconian regulations that the economy started moving again. If it were just government spending then the depression would have ended in the mid 30s.

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88 "Vic has the long & short of it right there. FWIW, Instahoozit sez NetFlix' days are numbered due to new gadget that sends bit torrent free movies direct to big screen TV."

There's still bandwith issues that aren't going to go away soon. Why do you think Netflix and Itunes don't sell HD downloads?

Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 02:50 PM (n82VB)

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If it were just government spending then the depression would have ended in the mid 30s.

 

I read a discussion some time ago, I forgot who it was, but they said there was a train of thought among some economists that WWII really did not end the depression, it just masked the symptoms.

 

The theory was that until Kennedy released the draconian tax rates that FDR had put in place the economy was still moribund.

 

I can remember the 50s and I can tell you that they were not a period of sweetness and light as described on Leave It To Beaver.

 

Most people that I knew were lucky if they had one of those “Levittown” masterpieces to live in.

 

Of course what we are headed for now may make the 50s look like sweetness and light.

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90 I read a discussion some time ago, I forgot who it was, but they said there was a train of thought among some economists that WWII really did not end the depression, it just masked the symptoms.

I tend to agree.

What really pulled the United States out of the Depression was the fact that, after World War II, we literally were the only people whose industrial base and labor force had not been either crippled or destroyed. That meant two things: labor could demand whatever price they wanted for their work, and management didn't have to worry about it because they'd just pass the cost on to the consumer.

The problem with the Obama Party is that these people -- and the unions that fund and control them -- are stuck in the 1950s.
Europe and Asia have long since rebuilt their bombed-out factories, had a generation to replace their workforce, and been able to copy and improve upon what we do here; hence, even excluding the cost of transporting goods, they can build several things more cheaply and efficiently than we can here in the United States. The Obama Party, though, still doesn't realize that we have competition on the global stage and that their fat-ass lazy union members have put us in a situation where it costs us twice as much to build things at a quarter of the quality.

Realize that the leaders of the Obama Party, by and large, have never worked a day in their lives. Pelosi is the baby of a corrupt political family and married a rich eunuch, Reid makes shady land swaps, Kennedy and Kerry live off trust funds that they inherited or married, and Obama knows no life that doesn't involve a remora-esque attachment to the government's underbelly.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at February 01, 2009 04:41 PM (wkt/o)

91 The lefties are riding this stimulus package like Slim Pickins riding the bomb... "Weeeeeeeheeeeeeeee!!!"

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And half a million for a dog park in a state that can't pay its own bills?

Posted by: Slim Pickins at February 01, 2009 05:22 PM (849eL)

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If it goes down in the Senate, that's the Dems problem. A defeat of this bill will only help the economy. Republicans should stand for what's right for America, not let themselves be intimidated by the Dems and MSM.

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