Britain Awakens?

The laws have gone so topsy-turvy in Merry Olde that the very act of defending yourself from a mugging, rapist, or other attack, using whatever you happen to be holding, could land your ass in jail if it was determined you were originally carrying the item to be used as a weapon. Even defensively.

In other words, if you happen to be carrying an umbrella you better hope it's raining when you get mugged. Or else beating off your attackers with it is a crime.
The criminals who attacked you will get out of the stir long before you do.

The dramatic spike in violent crimes in Britain since enaction of their gun ban has gotten very little press coverage here in the US. Very strange, for such a gun loving nation as ours. You'd almost think the major press was at odds with public sentiment.

It takes a lot of built up trouble before conservatives stage protests. We just don't do it unless we're pushed to the wall.
We're not so good with papier-mache and public tantrums.

Video below.
Thanks to Mrs. Michael for the tip.

Final thought:

Progressives are fighting for the complete eradication of Conservative ideals.
Conservatives are fighting for some illusion of 'balance.'

Posted by: LauraW. at 08:59 PM

Comments

1 Have the Brits suddenly grown a pair?

Posted by: Bruce at January 30, 2009 09:07 PM (oedyI)

2
Progressives are fighting for the complete eradication of Conservative ideals.
Conservatives are fighting for some illusion of 'balance.'

Word.

Progressives = Palestinians (and Muslims, in general)
Same goals, same tactics. Think about it.

Posted by: Darling at January 30, 2009 09:07 PM (736T6)

3 Bloody hell! Could you please keep the fucking noise down? I'm trying to sleep here.

Posted by: Britain at January 30, 2009 09:12 PM (hlYel)

4
For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of Great Britain.

Posted by: Darling Michelle O at January 30, 2009 09:15 PM (736T6)

5 Guns don't kill people. Umbrellas do.

Posted by: Parliament at January 30, 2009 09:15 PM (sI5Ho)

6 The Brits are know for 'a stiff upper lip'. Guess when your government shits on you enough, you finally get pissed off. Of course, those who were interviewed would be classified by the Brady Bunch as being 'gun nuts'.

BTW, from what I saw most of those terrible handguns being turned in where .22 target pistols.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 30, 2009 09:16 PM (237hA)

7 beating off your attackers

Well SOMEBODY had to notice. It's a moron blog...

Posted by: Dave in Peshawar at January 30, 2009 09:16 PM (FkCPn)

8 Look upon this video and remember, ladies and gentlemen, this is the agenda of the leftist - government we now have.

How long well it be before we wake up?

Posted by: steviej at January 30, 2009 09:18 PM (LcIae)

9 dammit dave. I was gonna use the beating off your attackers line. Youd think a morally bankrupt society as that of Europe would have little problem with giving handjobs to criminals, heck they probably encourage it. Give it 4 years, we soon wont recognize the society we live in.

Posted by: Rorschach at January 30, 2009 09:20 PM (fOLJR)

10 This is what happens when Peta and the various gun grabbers form their unholy alliance .
I saw it a few days ago . When they chopped through the receivers of some one's heirloom weapons I cringed, when they sawed through the receiver of a Browning A-5 it made me fuckin' nauseous.
Anyone that thinks our swarthy messiah isn't hoping for an American version of British and Australian gun laws is delusional.

Posted by: aubrey at January 30, 2009 09:20 PM (KQb4B)

11 Or else beating off your attackers with it is a crime.

I for one think beating off with an umbrella should be a crime. At least in public.

Posted by: brak at January 30, 2009 09:21 PM (llV0+)

12 One of the oldest saying in the world is "a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 09:25 PM (miw86)

13 Great LauraW. Best blog post I've seen in a long time. Every conservative in the US should see this.

Posted by: Hayao at January 30, 2009 09:25 PM (ow3I3)

14 Beating off your attacker should be done. After all, don't you owe him that for being part of a society that oppressed him?

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at January 30, 2009 09:26 PM (miw86)

15 Beating off your attackers is torture.

Posted by: Dave in Peshawar now adviser to The One at January 30, 2009 09:29 PM (FkCPn)

16 I for one think beating off with an umbrella should be a crime. At least in public.

Damn right. They should use an awl up the old sqeakhole.

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2009 09:30 PM (PD1tk)

17 Things that turn dreamy liberals into hardass conservatives:

Getting mugged
Withholding, estate, and property taxes
Affirmative Action hired or promoted ahead of you
Teenaged daughters

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 09:30 PM (miw86)

18 The Right will either surrender to the Left, or crush it.

The time is near.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2009 09:31 PM (ZsOIJ)

19 The time is near.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2009 09:31 PM (ZsOIJ)

It sure feels like we're close to the tipping point, doesn't it.

Posted by: Hayao at January 30, 2009 09:33 PM (ow3I3)

20 "One of the oldest saying in the world is 'a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged'"

I'm one of those odd birds that didn't need such an incentive. Mug me and I turn Libertarian on their ass. No, that's not really it either. More like "shoot-firstin' ask-question-laterin' killbot."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 30, 2009 09:33 PM (sI5Ho)

21
That's why I didn't get in trouble when I beat a mugger to death in England last summer, with my dick.

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2009 09:38 PM (Y5LIx)

The second amendment is for the militia.

Guns are a really divisive issue, lets face it a lot of potential voters do not like guns. The GOP needs to broaden its base to win.

Guns made sense in the old days. Nowadays food comes from the store.

Posted by: Moderate Pub at January 30, 2009 09:39 PM (E3ea4)

23 Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2009 09:38 PM (Y5LIx)

I hope it was a muggette, cause otherwise....dayum!

Posted by: Hayao at January 30, 2009 09:40 PM (ow3I3)

24 "Moderate Pub"

"Guns are a really divisive issue".

Don't you have better things to do, Mr. Axelrod? Really.

Posted by: Dave in Peshawar at January 30, 2009 09:43 PM (FkCPn)

25 "Nowadays, food comes from the store".

Not in my house, you pussy.

Posted by: Dave in Peshawar at January 30, 2009 09:44 PM (FkCPn)

Moderate Pub: Satire? or idiot?

It's clearly not about militias. Reading the rest of the document and using that logic would indicate that all other rights are only for government use as well.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at January 30, 2009 09:46 PM (SZOS3)

27 "Nowadays food comes from the store."

Damn straight. I still use my gun to get it, of course.

Ain't payin' no money to The Man for food.

Money is for hookers and blow.

Posted by: Carl in N.H. at January 30, 2009 09:46 PM (pNLLj)

28 "Back off Blair"?

This video has got to be a few months old, at least.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 30, 2009 09:46 PM (LtIsn)

29 Guns made sense in the old days. Nowadays food comes from the store.

And I'm supposed to throw bagels at the jackass who breaks into my house and tries to kill me? Yeah. No. I prefer to get around the fact that I'm short, fat and terribly out of shape by being a crack shot. It's a fantastic equalizer.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 30, 2009 09:49 PM (DMkhn)

30

I'd beat the bloody hell out them with my hump.

If I had one, that is.

Posted by: Tinian at January 30, 2009 09:50 PM (Ohodx)

31 About fucking time.....how old is this?

Posted by: Rocks at January 30, 2009 09:51 PM (3RHzM)

32 I can't figure out if Moderate Pub/fuzznuts/Sniveling Twat is satire, astroturf or agent provocteur.

Yeah, that IP hash is a bitch.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 30, 2009 09:51 PM (MKNSy)

33 Britain is off the deep end. Nation of pussies. 2 jobs in 3 in Britain are government jobs.

Problem is...its whats on the horizon for Lower Canada, too.

Posted by: Les Grossman at January 30, 2009 09:51 PM (Vc/xe)

34 It is time that we all challenged "progressives" where ever and when ever possible. Let no stupidity out of their mouths go unchallenged. Beat them mercilessly with facts and logic. It is time to destroy leftism once and for all. I am utterly sick of these fucks.

Posted by: Dr. Fred in PA at January 30, 2009 09:52 PM (oPpWH)

35 Some Brits feeling a little less welcoming to foreigners. Next thing you know, they might actually tell the Muzzies to bugger off
Protests against foreign workers spread in UKhttp://tinyurl.com/c2yzpa

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 09:53 PM (miw86)

36 Allright, which one of the morons is moderate pub. Cause , there ain't no way that was serious .

Posted by: aubrey at January 30, 2009 09:53 PM (KQb4B)

37 I prefer to get around the fact that I'm short, fat and terribly out of shape an incredibly hot bisexual chick by being a crack shot.

Don't spoil the fantasy for us, OK?

Posted by: XBradTC at January 30, 2009 09:54 PM (vII9H)

38 With the Tories in the UK being more accomodating to bending over than our worst RINOs, I see the BNP getting more of a friendly hearing.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 09:55 PM (miw86)

39 Just GunBlastered the gunk out of the actions of my 1911, my S&W 627, and the wife's J-frame. I got some of the dry RemOil with Teflon.

Triggers are all smooooooth as glassssss.

Now, I practice and wait for the tipping point.

Posted by: MikeO at January 30, 2009 09:57 PM (4sSHg)

40 38 With the Tories in the UK being more accomodating to bending over than our worst RINOs, I see the BNP getting more of a friendly hearing.

Of course, giving power to the BNP would cause LGF to declare that Britain under them would be a bigger threat to us than Iran and AQ put together. Charles insists that "moderate" center-right parties in Europe exist.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 09:58 PM (miw86)

41 On a happy note.... I'm so glad the world has changed it view and are singing songs holding hands,,,

Posted by: Indian outlaw at January 30, 2009 10:00 PM (RSRH4)

42 A burglar fell through the roof of a would be victim and suffered spinal injuries. The burglar sued the owner and won a large judgement. UK Justice at its best.

Posted by: davod at January 30, 2009 10:00 PM (GUZAT)

43 Love your neighbor as your self...what am I sapostado? Jerk him off too?

Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at January 30, 2009 10:01 PM (KR7D8)

44 41 On a happy note.... I'm so glad the world has changed it view and are singing songs holding hands,,,

A spokesman for the US state department, Robert Wood, said the North's rhetoric "is distinctly not helpful, but that's not going to deter us from continuing our efforts to achieve denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula" through long-running talks between the Koreas, regional powers and the US.

In plain English; "shooting us will not deter us from our efforts to surrender to you"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 10:04 PM (miw86)

45 Don't spoil the fantasy for us, OK?

Should I post the stompy boots again?

Posted by: alexthechick at January 30, 2009 10:05 PM (DMkhn)

46 You step into my home with bad intent, and I ventilate your ass until you have no more bad intent.

Period.

Oh and Pub or whatever the fuck your name is, you come try and take my guns. See above for how I'll respond.

Posted by: UncleFacts at January 30, 2009 10:06 PM (M+Vfm)

I know I should be a bit happy Brits are finally getting up to speed, but seriously, they're already over the falls. Too little, too late.

Posted by: Emily at January 30, 2009 10:06 PM (UUbAn)

48 Guns made sense in the old days. Nowadays food comes from the store.

And criminals come through the window. When we start buying our muggers wrapped in polystyrine in the butcher's shop, then talk to me about gun control.

Posted by: cheshirecat at January 30, 2009 10:07 PM (wob2B)

49 After the nuclear detonation in New York today, President Obama released a statement today that it was "definitely not helpful" in his efforts to engage Al Qaida in dialog to bring about world peace and end global warming.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 10:09 PM (miw86)

50 This video has got to be a few months old, at least.

Quite, as the ban was enacted in 2005 (The Hunting Act). That doesn't change the fact that handgun crimes have skyrocketed even before then.

Posted by: cheshirecat at January 30, 2009 10:09 PM (wob2B)

51 Britain hasn't grown a pair, this video is quite old.

Posted by: Andy at January 30, 2009 10:10 PM (A4mFs)

52 Stop calling my subjects cowards and girlie-men, or I'm telling the World Court at the Hague on you!

Posted by: Prince Charles the Brave at January 30, 2009 10:14 PM (miw86)

"I'm short, fat and terribly out of shape"

alexthechick at January 30, 2009

NOOOooooooo Say it ain't so!!!

Not the picture of you I had in my mind...

Posted by: Paladin at January 30, 2009 10:15 PM (KR7D8)

54
Nowadays food comes from the store.

Bullshit. I just beat a deer to death in the woods behind my house, with my dick.

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2009 10:17 PM (Y5LIx)

Brava Laura, brava.

Defend yourself. Defend your property and your loved ones. Go buy a gun folks. Learn how to use it.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at January 30, 2009 10:17 PM (eiOZw)

Handguns are quick, easy to shoot, and lethal. If your good. If your not good, or quick, be at least lethal with a shotgun. 12 guage, 3 inch mag goose or larger shells. best home defense weapon to have.

They wont penetrate most walls in direct fire if you miss your target ( 357 mag will go through most walls, and accidently kill yer next door pet)

They do however, Shred at a close range.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at January 30, 2009 10:17 PM (8kkWt)

Also noticed that it was kind of an old crowd marching. Not a good sign.

Posted by: Matt at January 30, 2009 10:18 PM (0z0tO)

58 53

"I'm short, fat and terribly out of shape"

alexthechick at January 30, 2009

NOOOooooooo Say it ain't so!!!

Not the picture of you I had in my mind...

Posted by: Paladin at January 30, 2009 10:15 PM (KR7D

I kind of pictured her as Ann Coulter with in black leather, spiked collar, stilletto boots and a tattoo of Chuck Norris

Posted by: Prince Charles the Brave at January 30, 2009 10:18 PM (miw86)

I believe there's a portion in this video that features the rural brit who gets extensive jail time for killing a would-be robber. A fellow gun nut I work with were (sorta) joking around about this part. Why would you call the authorities in on a justifiable homicide particularly in the country? Dig a hole (or two) and problem solved. Or find a pig farmer.

There are some really sad friggin videos over on youtube. Brits lined up by the hundreds to turn in their firearms to "authorities".

Registration

Licensure

Confiscation

Mass Murder of Citizens

http://tinyurl.com/dcb3ch

Posted by: turtle at January 30, 2009 10:20 PM (sZPLX)

60 Protests against foreign workers spread in UK

Anyone selling futures in Guy Fawkes masks?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 10:21 PM (miw86)

61 Stompy boots, please, even if actual Alex content isn't guaranteed.

Posted by: XBradTC at January 30, 2009 10:22 PM (vII9H)

62 Yes Alexthechick is definitely pulling our leg about the short fat thing I am betting on it.

Posted by: Vmaximus at January 30, 2009 10:23 PM (IP3AX)

a shotgun. 12 guage, 3 inch mag....

Naa 2-3/4 is sufficent...00buck!

Posted by: Paladin at January 30, 2009 10:25 PM (KR7D8)

"Don't you have better things to do, Mr. Axelrod? Really."

Maybe they installed an automatic thermostat in the White House.

Posted by: davod at January 30, 2009 10:27 PM (GUZAT)

Yes Alexthechick is definitely pulling our leg about the short fat thing I am betting on it.

Gawid I hope so... I'm picturing a Rose McGowian type ...with the machinegun leg.

Posted by: Paladin at January 30, 2009 10:32 PM (KR7D8)

66 I kind of pictured her as Ann Coulter with in black leather, spiked collar, stilletto boots and a tattoo of Chuck Norris

Oh like this*?

*actual Alex content not guaranteed

Posted by: alexthechick at January 30, 2009 10:39 PM (DMkhn)

67 I'm picturing a Rose McGowian type ...with the machinegun leg.

That's hilarious since I'm actually watching Grindhouse right this very second. Oh Rosario Dawson I love you so.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 30, 2009 10:40 PM (DMkhn)

68 Alex has sexleg?

Posted by: UncleFacts at January 30, 2009 10:40 PM (M+Vfm)

69 Alex, if I thought you looked and dressed anything like that, I'd forgive you for being a lawyer.

Posted by: XBradTC at January 30, 2009 10:43 PM (vII9H)

70 That's hilarious since I'm actually watching Grindhouse right this very second. Oh Rosario Dawson I love you so.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 30, 2009 10:40 PM (DMkhn)

Something you wanna share with us there, girlfriend?

Posted by: Ana L Plugg at January 30, 2009 10:44 PM (miw86)

71 �Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. Wyatt Earp

Posted by: Jubal Anderson Early at January 30, 2009 10:45 PM (krKUp)

72 #33: "Nation of pussies."

Nothing more need be said.

Posted by: Amanda at January 30, 2009 10:46 PM (SXosX)

73 71 �Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. Wyatt Earp

My idea of gun control is a steady aim

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 30, 2009 10:47 PM (miw86)

In other words, if you happen to be carrying an umbrella you better hope it's raining when you get mugged.

You mean John Steed could go to jail?

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at January 30, 2009 10:48 PM (DOugJ)

75 You mean John Steed could go to jail?

Yup. Right now the big thing is knife control since there's been an uptick in stabbings as well. You can't even buy a steak knife at Harrod's if you're underage I do believe.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 30, 2009 10:51 PM (DMkhn)

76 Paul Kersey: "Do you believe in Jesus?"
Thug: "Yes"
Paul Kersey: "Well, you're about to meet him"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 10:51 PM (miw86)

77
[Harry Callahan has to explain why he shot a man]
Harry Callahan: Well, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot the bastard. That's my policy.
The Mayor: Intent? How did you establish that?
Harry Callahan: When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross!
[walks out of the room]
The Mayor: He's got a point.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 10:54 PM (miw86)

we have it in our power to begin the world over again. -t.p.

Posted by: unamerican libertarian formerly known as e.koenig at January 30, 2009 10:55 PM (2J+Vs)

I must have read a couple thousand comments on this site and never once did a search on any of you buttholes.

Fact is my real name is not real cool, also popular, and all the good handles like Ace, or Polynikes , or, Slublog are taken; so sue me.

Posted by: Moderate Pub at January 30, 2009 11:01 PM (E3ea4)

Yup. Right now the big thing is knife control since there's been an uptick in stabbings as well. You can't even buy a steak knife at Harrod's if you're underage I do believe.

Does Doctor Who get to keep his sonic screwdriver?

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at January 30, 2009 11:03 PM (DOugJ)

81 Moderate Pub, If you're in need of a nick, Amanda's Bitch #3 is still available.

Posted by: Amanda at January 30, 2009 11:05 PM (SXosX)

82 Yet another example of why the Britsh Empire no longer rules the world and how refugees from its former colonies have turned England into just another two bit socialist state just like they did to the rest of Europe.

Posted by: Matt at January 30, 2009 11:05 PM (8BmFw)

83 81-Interested, please send photo. I may want to be #1.

Posted by: Moderate Pub at January 30, 2009 11:11 PM (E3ea4)

84 Jesus wept.

I see our future, clearer than ever.

Posted by: rockmom at January 30, 2009 11:16 PM (xOEA9)

After the nuclear detonation in New York today, President Obama released a statement today that it was "definitely not helpful" in his efforts to engage Al Qaida in dialog to bring about world peace and end global warming.

As long as it's just New York, then I'm cool with it too.

Posted by: pendejo grande at January 30, 2009 11:22 PM (tlpWV)

86 As long as it's just New York, then I'm cool with it too.

If it's DC, the statement will be "come on guys, that shit's gettin' old"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 11:27 PM (miw86)

87 no way girlfriend !!!!!111!!!eleventy!!

Posted by: Amanda's bitch #2 at January 30, 2009 11:28 PM (FfpKT)

I ran 36 rounds through my Glock 21 and 10 rounds through my Remington 870 today. What the fuck did you morons do to get yourself ready for the glorious future?

Serious question though. If HR 45 (Bobby Rush Thug-Ill) passes through congress as it is currently written and is signed into law by the O and withstands the supreme court tests that surely will be forthcoming, whatchu morons gonna do. Is this where the line in the sand gets drawn or like these poor Brits will we draw a line in the sand somewhere later down the road.

Posted by: pendejo grande at January 30, 2009 11:28 PM (tlpWV)

89 Guns are a really divisive issue

Not so much. This really is a gun-loving country. There's shooting ranges all over the place even in so-called Blue states.

The 'divide' is between the elitist prick people who think most Americans shouldn't own weapons, and Most Americans. That includes a lot of liberals who have learned to stop worrying and love the boomstick.

Posted by: lauraw at January 30, 2009 11:28 PM (DbybK)

90 i'm a'feared they won't wake up in time. And frankly, I'm not too sure about the good ole USA either.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at January 30, 2009 11:31 PM (FfpKT)

91 You mean John Steed could go to jail?

Mrs Peel, we're no longer needed.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2009 11:34 PM (1DISj)

92 Mrs Peel, we're no longer needed.

You've now gotten me officially hot and bothered

http://theavengers.tv/forever/images/queenofsin.jpg

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2009 11:43 PM (miw86)

93 Moderate Pub (translation: liberal), this thing about the 2nd being for militias...you are aware the Supreme Court disagrees with you?

Posted by: Flubber at January 30, 2009 11:48 PM (t9FpX)

"I kind of pictured her as Ann Coulter with in black leather, spiked collar, stilletto boots and a tattoo of Chuck Norris"

And I for one will continue to do so, despite any attempts to force reality upon me against my will.

(Fingers in ears) La...la...la...I can't hear you!

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 30, 2009 11:52 PM (ACDor)

95
I live in Chicago. Guns are absolutely forbidden. This shit for brains corrupt mayor tried to sue Smith & Wesson, et al, because the corrupt pissant cops in this city can't get the job done.

Thank goodness everybody obeys the law and nobody ever gets shot here. Cockholster fucking politicians

Posted by: billypaintbrush at January 30, 2009 11:59 PM (TBaHK)

96 95
I live in Chicago. Guns are absolutely forbidden. This shit for brains corrupt mayor tried to sue Smith & Wesson, et al, because the corrupt pissant cops in this city can't get the job done.

I've always wondered WTF suing Smith & Wesson was going to achieve since most street guns are the Austrian Glocks, German Walthers, Italian Barettas, and Chinese AK-47s

Isn't it nice that Europeans have outgrown guns?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2009 12:02 AM (miw86)

97 I live in Chicago. Guns are absolutely forbidden. This shit for brains corrupt mayor tried to sue Smith & Wesson, et al, because the corrupt pissant cops in this city can't get the job done.

Give the cops a break. Some of them are only 14 years old.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 31, 2009 12:02 AM (1DISj)

98 I was thinking alexthechick has a Gina Gershon vibe and moderate pub is a complete and total pussy.

Posted by: aubrey at January 31, 2009 12:07 AM (KQb4B)

99

I ran 36 rounds through my Glock 21 and 10 rounds through my [410] Remington 870 today.

Then I cleaned them with my penis smothered in gun cleaning patches so I could fill wouldn't scratch the bore.

Posted by: peque�o pene at January 31, 2009 12:08 AM (Ohodx)

100 98 I was thinking alexthechick has a Gina Gershon vibe and moderate pub is a complete and total pussy.

Hot and bothered again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_HCqfmkEh4

Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2009 12:11 AM (miw86)

101 Just don't dip your balls in Hoppes #9. It stings.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 31, 2009 12:12 AM (MKNSy)

102 I love how we are laughing, lamenting with poor old Britain. Those idiots for giving up their freedom! Do you know that investigators for Child Protective Services, IN TEXAS, are under this same bullshit "umbrella rule". That's state policy. In TEXAS, morons. It isn't coming to a country near you, it's IN a state near you. And you can take it for granted that if it's in Texas, it national policy. We're there.

An investigator for CPS cannot carry a weapon of any kind and neither can they carry anything that might, on the off chance, look like or seem like a weapon. They send investigators into the field to check up on serious creeps who beat up, rape, and kill children, while demanding they go unarmed. And no baseball bat or pepper spray in the trunk, no matter the neighborhood or the drug dealers hangin' around protecting their turf. That would be unprofessional. Just investigate naked and rely on the cops (hahahahahaha!!!!) to help.

It's already here. It's already happening. Prosecuters hammered an old guy in our county for fending off a burglary in just the same way. How DARE he shoot the little shits for breaking into his home? We need to wake up and smell the coffee. It ain't just Great Britain. We are letting this crap creep in here.

Posted by: Lana at January 31, 2009 12:18 AM (Nf4XK)

103 If we're starting up with the Gina Gershon stuff, you gotta go with Bound. Both smoking hot and an excellent film.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 31, 2009 12:21 AM (DMkhn)

104 22

Guns made sense in the old days. Nowadays food comes from the store.

Guns are made for the pols. Most would be a tad gamey.

Posted by: Druid at January 31, 2009 12:22 AM (mdr+B)

105 103 If we're starting up with the Gina Gershon stuff, you gotta go with Bound. Both smoking hot and an excellent film.

Yup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljF5HS_qMK4

Posted by: Prince Hakeem Barack Obama at January 31, 2009 12:29 AM (miw86)

106 When I was stationed in England in 01-04, I had smuggled in a 9mm for home defense via a false bottom in my toolbox (thanks to a nice bribe to my movers).

Secretly, I hoped that I'd had a chance to use it (for home defense only of course) so as to spark an international incident (and to annoy the annoying Pubic Affairs officer who made me her love-slave). I started to get a wee bit nervous when there was a well-publicized abduction/murder in my crap town, and I figured as the local single American playboy I'd get the once over.

Still, it's not a pleasant notion to think that your right to self-defense is thoroughly circumscribed, and it's certainly reflected in the culture there. I'd been in towns where the teens had riot over the city centre, and it was a lot more like The Warriors than Pride and Prejudice.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2009 12:35 AM (n2eCn)

107 Mr. Daaaaaarcy...come out to plaYYYYY....

Posted by: Elizabeth Bennett at January 31, 2009 12:46 AM (MKNSy)

108 That tipping point gets closer every day. One day the folks pushing regular people out of their tracks are going to get some serious push-back, and maybe these mouth breather liberals will get the idea that the 2nd Amendment is to protect citizens from their gubmint, not the other way around.
Me? I can guarantee B&E on my little hovel would be a test of the burglar's insurance co-pay and the upper limits of his policy. Or a quick way to permanently retire.
Got no kids, so keeping my hide in one safe piece is my life's work. I have the tools to do that effectively.

Posted by: enter sandman at January 31, 2009 01:07 AM (zxaA2)

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Still, I could do more damage with either of my trucks:so liberals should also fear my driving.
And I do that everyday. Think about it.

Posted by: enter sandman at January 31, 2009 01:10 AM (zxaA2)

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Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 31, 2009 02:48 AM (Ygf78)

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Another liberal flake who thinks everybody lives in a city.

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Posted by: fireweednectar at January 31, 2009 03:11 AM (vM7Ix)

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It' no joke--they were right in the video: Listen to us, we know what we are talking about.

All of us should be posting this to wherever we can and showing it to wherever we think it will help.

Posted by: fireweednectar at January 31, 2009 03:33 AM (vM7Ix)

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On the guns are for the militia part: go read the founding fathers' ideas on militia. It was every able-bodied citizen. The idea was to have a defense force that could be raised on the spot for any conceivable means. This includes foreign invasion all the way to fighting the government and other states (I think it was in the Federalist Papers where it's talked about a hypothetical situation where New York tries to re-acquire the territory in Vermont...).

And as for your 'nobody needs them in modern society anymore' point: Tell that to my relatives. They live in the middle of nowhere, just outside a town that you pass through if you sneeze. There's two huge dangers out there. The first is the meth lab guys. The second is the dogs that city people dump out there that go feral and form big packs and attack people. There are times when you don't go outside without at least a .40 or shotgun just because of the dogs.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 31, 2009 06:45 AM (VNi6L)

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We are not far behind, I truly fear.

Posted by: Twinks at January 31, 2009 09:04 AM (KGbOi)

118 ....but national health care!

UK right has been forced very leftward and I doubt we will truly "right wing" parties win in Europe for a long time. Probably have a chance when the demographics finally run out the game for the social spending.

Posted by: Harun at January 31, 2009 09:10 AM (YJGtX)

119 The Brits have one advantage, the monarchy. If one of those rakehell princes was to summon the people to the defense of their country and their liberties against a tyrannical treasonous regime.... We don't have that emergency ejection mechanism

Posted by: chuker at January 31, 2009 09:37 AM (1AEzm)

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The 'food comes from the store' non-argument ticks me off. A freezer full of free meat still means an awful lot to many people in this country. You have to be really clueless about your own country, not to mention divorced from the reality of how most people on the planet live, to actually, non-self consciously, leave that comment where other people can see it. Christ Almighty.

Not everyone can live near an urban center. And even some who do, still enjoy hunting and providing for their families this way.

Outlawing the traditional way that people provide food for themselves is the sort of cruel edict that one would expect stupid, pampered elites to dish out to ordinary people whom they do not understand.

Posted by: lauraw at January 31, 2009 10:32 AM (/N2hz)

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Why he hell do you guys still put up with that parasitic bunch of useless trash calls itself "the royal family"?
What makes these bozos better than anyone else?
On the gun question, you don't hear about what we think about the second amendment over there because the mainstream media is violently hoplophobic, and just as they came all over themselves to curry favor with the "one", they do everything they can to circumvent the ideals of freedom.
It's a disease called liberalism.

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This anti hunting crap is supported in Britain by the rich and famous too. Paul McCartney and his then wife Heather Mills bought and then posted patchwork land around their country mansion to prevent fox hunting by breaking up the path of the horses. Pheasant shooting is a 2 billion dollar business so having a shotgun is not hard there. The lesson for us from all this is, to me, 1) buy a hand gun and learn how to use it as soon as possible. Even if Obama fails to get them banned out right, he will eventually appoint Supreme Court judges who will reinterpret the second amendment to make their possession almost impossible outside the Mojave Desert. 2) Be willing to give money to lobbyists like the NRA. Politicians are still a cheap commodity.

Posted by: mytralman at January 31, 2009 11:34 AM (26p91)

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What is completely unfunny are the 4, count'um, four Supremes that really do think guns are not an individual right.

Posted by: Moderate Pub at January 31, 2009 11:40 AM (E3ea4)

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Posted by: Rich Fader at January 31, 2009 01:05 PM (lgYLR)

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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2009 01:35 PM (PQY7w)

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Perhaps he will be disappointed when he find out what "well-regulated" means, as well. In the sense used, it meant well run and well supplied...i.e., well-armed.

Posted by: SarahW at January 31, 2009 01:35 PM (r/1UT)

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This happened a few years ago: The giant anti-fox-hunting-ban protest march was in 2002, and Tony Martin was released to a safe house in 2003. He never indicated any remorse for the shooting, which would have speeded up his release.

Martin had, before the shooting, become obsessive about the ongoing burglaries at his farm. He had set up various booby-traps around the house, and would sleep clothed, with his boots on and gun by his side.

There was a lot of sympathy for Tony Martin, and generally most people support the 'castle doctrine'. The Daily Telegraph had a campaign on his behalf, and to get the laws changed to protect the victims of burglaries and forced entries.

Whether correctly or incorrectly, there was some temperance of the sympathy towards Martin because 1) He had shot the thief in the back, and 2) There was a suspicion that he was somewhat extreme eg. he'd previously shot someone who was picking apples in his yard (for which he lost his gun licenses), he'd fired his shotgun in an argument with his brother (no-one hurt), and he'd advocated rounding up and machine-gunning all the itinerant travellers* and gypsies, a sentiment which lent extra colour by the fact that he is the nephew of Andew Fountaine, the founder of the National Front (predecessor to the BNP - both fascist neo-nazi organisations).

So, although many didn't necessarily like Tony Martin personally, they did support his position - no-one should be made to feel like a prisoner in their own home, a right to self-defense of self and property is innate, and that police were often no help at all.

Brandon Fearon, the criminal who survived, went on to be arrested for heroin dealing (18 month sentence, 6 served). He got called back to finish the rest of his sentence after he was caught driving someone's car without permission or a license. He was arrested again for withdrawing �11,000 using stolen cash cards, and later bailed. He was then arrested again for causing public disorder at two pubs - given another 18 months of jail.

Also, England's prisons are at full capacity, and the goverment neglected to increase capacity, even though it increased the number of jailable offenses by introducing new laws.

The maddening leniency of the UK justice system towards dangerous criminals (and the obstructionism of the Crown Prosection Service, which often seems to be on the side of the criminals) is a common subject of conversation here. (For a policeman's take on such subjects, and policing in general: Nightjack's blog )

*: 'traveller' is a UK term - for a film depiction of a UK "traveller" community, see Brad Pitt's Micky & friends in Snatch (YouTube clip)

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Posted by: joe biden at January 31, 2009 02:00 PM (o6ci8)

131 Whatever...i don't think it's ok to kill an animal to get a tasty food when you can easily live without it (and i'm far from being liberal). Everyone on this board thinks otherwise, alrighty then, but please spare me this crap about touchy feelings towards say military or police dogs (or cats and dogs in general) next time it comes out. Think that animals are nothing but walking meat, that's fine but please enougjh with this hypocrisy

Posted by: AlexD at January 31, 2009 04:24 PM (PHJQD)

132 Think that animals are nothing but walking meat, that's fine

They are also our servants and companions. (cats may consider themselves our masters however).

Posted by: toby928 at January 31, 2009 04:27 PM (PD1tk)

133 131 Whatever...i don't think it's ok to kill an animal to get a tasty food when you can easily live without it (and i'm far from being liberal). Everyone on this board thinks otherwise, alrighty then, but please spare me this crap about touchy feelings towards say military or police dogs (or cats and dogs in general) next time it comes out. Think that animals are nothing but walking meat, that's fine but please enougjh with this hypocrisy

Posted by: AlexD at January 31, 2009 04:24 PM (PHJQD)

Are you a vegetarian?

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at January 31, 2009 05:04 PM (SZOS3)

134 Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at January 31, 2009 05:04 PM (SZOS3)

Yes

Posted by: AlexD at February 01, 2009 12:34 PM (z6JOG)

135 you can easily live without it

OK you're a vegetarian, fine. I can respect that. I'd respect it a lot more if you left off with the comments implying that everyone else could have the same experience being one as well.

Not all people are veg, not all want to be, not all can. But I'm not going to go into a list of reasons to defend the position I state here other than: freedom of choice.

Speaking of choice, are you aware there are a lot of places in your own country that do not have grocery stores? And that some who have small shops a piece of meat would cost them a month's wages?

Posted by: fireweednectar at February 01, 2009 04:14 PM (vM7Ix)

136

I don't place human qualities on animals so you won't have to worry about me having "touchy feelings" for them. They're just tools or food to me. I'd feel bad if my dog died, but only because he provides comfort to me, not because I think he's equal to humans in some way.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at February 01, 2009 06:57 PM (SZOS3)

137 fireweednectar,

What experience? By "easily live" i haven't implied it won't be a sacrifice to refuse killing animals for food. I also do not want to be a veg, I would love for example to have an occasional Big Mac (i really enjoyed those before) and i do not have any social or personal benefits (which i suspect are a sole foundation of a "progressive" celebrity-style vegetarianism) from my way of life (there are no vegetarians among my social surrounding). I just think that killing an animal doesn't worth it. You may understand it if you own a pet. It's really all about whether one seriously values animal life or not. 99,9% of people who consume meat (by buying it or hunting) are not exactly tormented by their conscience, it's not like they have some real expectation of some significant damage to their health or income and thus are making a hard choice to consume meat. They just don't care much and don't think about it much, but at the same time when in one way or another they are confronted with the price of their way of life, they realise that it's wrong and all sorts of excuses come into play (it's natural, it's healthy and so on). And the same goes for all the nuances like the lack of appropriate stores in some areas - they may be real, but they do not account for 99,9% of the problem, which is general indifference to the plight of animals (with some exception of cats and dogs).

About "freedom of choice": i mean no offence but there is no real argument here. The only way it can be given a coherent shapes is this: it's wrong to restrict someone from fulfilling his desires, unless such fulfilment is hurting others. I agree with that but that "unless" part negates the general freedom to kill an animal to anyone who values, besides a human life, an animal life (in general or some particular animal). Try killing someone's pet and then argue with the owner that while you're sorry for destroying his property and willing to pay for it, killing any animal and eating it is your freedom of choice which he should respect - you may pay dearly for such a stunt.

Posted by: AlexD at February 01, 2009 07:01 PM (z6JOG)

138 Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at February 01, 2009 06:57 PM (SZOS3)

Ok, in other words you don't care at all about your dog: it has the same status for you as a pillow - it gives you comfort but the second it becomes more of a liability (say the dog gets ill) you'll dispose of it without any feelings and get yourself a new one. I hope you realize that with such an attitude you're in the tiny minority of pet owners. Also i guess you're aware that treatment of cats and dogs which is logical continuation of your system of values is called "animal cruelty" and is a criminal offence. That is thousands of people each year are heavily fined while some even go to jail for the behaviour you see nothing wrong with. Since i guess you care for humans why don't you voice your opinion for such a grand injustice when people are being screwed for nothing?

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