1 And this is why I hate having a Dem as CiC they try to gut the military first everytime.

2 How exactly is Mr. Hopenchange different in any way than every other Democrat we've seen?

3 Say bye bye to missile defense.........

4 So what we've seen so far: cripple intelligence, slash the military budget, increase social spending, massively increase spending... the only missing Carter touch is a tax increase.

5 He's asking a lot, especially with the upcoming Pokestan invasion.

6 Are we really shocked here? Seriously? The Democrats have been itching to cut the defense budget since their inception. How do you think Obama was planning on paying for ALL of his government expanding like healthcare and the such? We knew it would come from the defense budget.

Lovely. CIC.

7 insidedefense.com. I'm impressed!

8 #4, that's called "Letting the Bush tax cuts expire"

9 You see what I just did there?

That means more billions for ACORN to help steal the next election.

10 Motherfucker.

11 Stupid bastard is LAYING OFF 10% of HIS milititary. In a HIGH unemployment marketplace. What a dumb son of a bitch.

12 mmmm yummy crap sandwich...

13 Looks like it's amateur hour in the White House...

14 "Stupid bastard is LAYING OFF 10% of HIS milititary. In a HIGH unemployment marketplace. What a dumb son of a bitch. "

They can be re-educated into his new civilian corps.

And then they can be deployed domestically.

15 Halp Us Jon Carry!

16 fucker

17 "Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2009 07:49 PM (PD1tk)"

LOL (I hate LOLs. But that's a definite LOL.)

18

Heres how it works...this is not arguable:

Obama gives money to people who dont pay taxes (I.E. Subhuman Cockroaches)------------------------->

These people use their "stimulus" money to buy drugs, buy crowbars to break into houses, and screwdrivers to steal cars --------->

Obama has to raise more money to pay for cops to pay for the more efficient criminals he has created ------>

Cop money instead gets appropriated to create socialistic programs for subhuman cockroaches -------------->

My wallet gets tighter because Im paying for the criminals I spend my time fighting. 

Thanks Obama.  Lets take the money from the only heroic organization left in the world, our military, whose mission is more noble than anything undertaken in the past thousand years; and give it to the subhuman poor.

19 Taxes for the rich Republican voters, tax breaks for the poor rich Democratic donors.

There fixed your campaign promise for you Obama.

20

This a stupid move, politically.  The other reasons why it is stupid go without saying....

21 Hope and Change - OUT!
Bold and Swift - IN!


Seriously what kind of fuckwit cuts the defense budget with 150K troops deployed?

22 Now is the perfect time to cut the military.

SEOUL (AP) — North Korea said Friday it is ditching a non-aggression pact and all other peace agreements with South Korea, in an apparent attempt to use the threat of an armed clash to press Seoul to give up its "confrontational" stance.

The communist nation also said it will no longer respect a disputed sea border with the South, raising the prospect for an armed clash along the Yellow Sea boundary — the scene of deadly skirmishes between the two navies in 1999 and 2002.

Ohhh look out Barry has strong language for them.

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The United States said Friday that North Korea's "rhetoric is distinctly not helpful" after Pyongyang announced it scrapped agreements with South Korea on easing military tensions.

23 DefenseAlert, Jan. 30, 2009 -- The Obama administration has directed the Defense Department to pare back the fiscal year 2010 budget package prepared last year by the Pentagon, which added more than $60 billion -- including nearly $20 billion for weapon systems and modernization efforts -- to the spending plan before President Bush left office, according to Pentagon officials.

24 Morons, you need to look at the bright side! Now we can all party like it's 1939!

25

Hey let's shovel money out the door for everything else to the tune of One trillion dollars. 

26 "distinctly not helpful"

Ouch. That smarts.

27 It looks to me like Obama will be financing hope and change by stopping increases in the Defense budges.  See?  Saving money is easy when you find something you don't want to spend it on.

28 ...the only missing Carter touch is a tax increase.

That, my friend, is coming soon.  Give the guy a break, he's only been in office for, what, ten days?  We won't be back to 1979 for at least another week.

29

"rhetoric is distinctly not helpful"

AREYOUFUCKINGKIDDINGME??!!!ELEVENTY!!

30 I think the "Wow!..I'm surprised!..Boy were we ever off the mark, he really is a centrist. All that 'leftist/socialist' crap was just paranoia"...should pretty well be wiped out of peoples minds now.
Or not.

31 That Nostradomus 2012 thingy is gonna be here quicker than we know, the way President I-Won keeps talking. Kee-rist. Is it okay to be a little scared now?

32 Cut and run in Iraq + Defense cut + handcuffing intelligence = 911

Didn't we do this already?
Was it right then?

33

1939? Welcome back to the 1990s. 

Of course, we will also be getting a plethora of new missions and deployments, all of which will be typical liberal we-are-the-world feelgood bullshit.

Did I say we? I meant you, Mr. Unfortunate Enough to be on Active Duty During a Democrat Administration.  I am still retired....as far as I know.

34
Meanwhile...

Michael Steele is celebrating his win and the other great Republicans in Congress are gone for the weekend.

We have no leadership. None.

And Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, every night, are poisoning young minds with disinformation.

35 He's going to get rid of the nukes, as promised.

36

As Obama drafts his valentine to Imadinnerjacket, close on the heels of the “I am a Muslim” interview (borrowed from Gandhi), I am struck by the connection to Carter theory.  But we ought to be careful about which non-violent leaders we copy, and when -  Martin Luther King’s tactics being effective here but hardly likely to work under Stalin, Mao or in today’s Iran.

 

Clinton, one might remember, exerted considerable legacy-building sweat trying to get Arafat to agree to that which he could never do, even as a bigger club were used on Israel and Arafat offered billions more.   Arafat, it was finally realized, was a terrorist and a crook, even when given Clinton’s best red carpet treatment. (Realized by most I mean).

 

But I can’t help thinking that Obama would be singing him songs were he still alive.

 

So, the question of the day is: “Can Liberals learn?”

 

These days we are buried under the avalanche of liberal Socialist programs, a new one coming once an hour. New union rules, steel protectionism, health care, Acorn billions, COBRA extensions paid by us, Medicaid extension paid by us, “Tax cuts” for those who don’t pay taxes, smoking taxes, driving taxes, salt taxes, Global Warming curbs, “new” energy, alms for the poor, alms for the poor…

 

Each one more misguided than the last and now we begin to kill the military, again.  Carter, it might be remembered, ran the military down so low we could not make repairs to aircraft or afford bullets.  It is enough to cause involuntary grinding of teeth.  The fact that these programs have failed each and every time they have been tried gives us evidence toward the answer to the question of the day.  Ask me about it, I live in Michigan.

 

But I am most reminded of my grandfather, RIP, who would react in visible anger each time FDR’s name was mentioned.  His eyes would get red.  He would fidget, swear, and mumble, long after FDR had passed.

 

And I am just now starting to get a full understanding of it.

37 She may not realize it but this doesn't help Michelle's (or anybody's) kids.

FRACK!

38

This is just he beginning. They will dismantel the military. The U.S. military is, after all, the focus of all evil in the world on the planet.

39 This deal keeps getting worse....................

40 On Friday, the North's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea — a ruling communist party organ in charge of ties with Seoul — declared all past peacekeeping accords with the South "dead," claiming Lee was escalating tensions.

"The group of traitors has already reduced all the agreements reached between the North and the South in the past to dead documents," the committee said in a statement carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency.

Sounds like peaceful language to me.

Both Koreas are watching to see how Obama's North Korea policy takes shape.

Gutless would be a word to describe it. But wait....

After eight years of icy relations with the Bush administration, North Korea hopes to have improved ties with Obama, analysts say. Obama has said he would be willing to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il if it advances the effort to disarm the North of its nuclear capabilities.

It's all George Bush's fault. What a surprise from the AP.

41

the only missing Carter touch is a tax increase.

That and a sweater and national malaise. That's on the agenda for next year.

42 Appearently the Pelosi-Obama-Reid-Kickback program doesn't seen any need for jobs at Boeing, Raytheon, Newport News, or even Camp Pendleton.

43 We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom, freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for human pride as to be dominated by others of your species.

44 I haven't seen this reported anywhere else - yet, but this afternoon FOX was reporting that The One wants to send Hamas $20M to spruce-up the Gaza Strip.  I'm just ... fdsakfiwoerowef90twjdfiqy87

45 OH OKAY!

Two wars going on.

Russia growing belligerent.

China rising.

Iran getting nukes.

No end to international terror in sight.

And what does our Former President-Elect suggest?

Why, DISARM, of course.

I feel like I want to bang my head against the wall. And liberals wonder why same people consider them a national security menace...

46  What a fucking asshole.

Jeez.

I want to punch a unicorn.

47 Jesus F'ing Christ...

Some thought we were having the third Clinton administration... it looks like we're getting the second Carter administration... ugh... remember when Carter said we had to get over our inordinate fear of communism, and then... oops, the Sovs invaded Afghanistan, thankyouverymuch...

Now The One says, hey, can't we all get along.... man, all that's missing is The One wearing a cardigan sweater, which he can't, since the Oval Office is, quote, hot enough to grow orchids, unquote.

Gonna be a loooonnnngggggg four years...

48 A definition of insanity is repeating the same action(s), yet expecting different results....we have been down this road before and it did not end well....Duh One™ is messing things up quite quickly.....

49 I think I am going to go stock up on canned goods, bottled water and ammunition.

50 That's on the agenda for next ..........week

FIFY

51 11%? Sure, we can probably find some cheaper pilots for Air Force One. No need to use the best fuel, either. Maintenance has been outrageous! Let's outsource it.

No problem, Barry.

52 "looks like we're getting the second Carter administration"

I think it's worse than that. We're getting the first Obama administration.

53 Disband the Democrat partyl. Before they COMPLETELY destroy the country.

54

oops, the Sovs invaded Afghanistan, thankyouverymuch...

Yeah, Carter's pull no punches response consisted of...well...not letting U.S. athletes take part in the Olympics. He sure showed them!

Way to go, Jimmah!

55 Joe...Is it time to start girding loins???

56   Also, at least Ole Jimmy wore a fucking sweater.

I can't believe we've got a guy worse than Carter as President now.

 I guess I can, given that so many people evidently never figured out how much Jimmy sucked, but still.

57 you guys watching cnn? total fight with rush v. that bald douche "economist" ali

rush should go on and debate that doosh and crush him - he had no substantive response to tax cuts solve other than only consumer confidence matters and somehow spending helps that- which isnt a real substantive response

58 How come liberals never think of defense spending as "stimulative"? Answer me THAT, damnit!

59 BO really does have his head up his ass, doesn't he?!!!!!

60

God, it's been one week, and already we have the worst case of Presidential bed shitting during my lifetime. Let's count 'em:

-Close Gitmo, helping terrorists

-Allow the states to make unnecessary and grossly expensive emissions limit on financially strapped auto makers

-Craft the most craptastic spending bill of all time

-Try and fuck the military's budget

Yeah, Barry's hitting on all cylinders right now.

61 North's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea

More commonly known as the Korean People's Army

62 Nevermind that both Mexico and Pakistan are at risk of collapsing. Let's cut defense spending.

President Dumbass.

63 We have money for condoms and STD prevention and sod for the National Mall and overseas abortions.

But not for the military.

God help our country.

64 Right on UGAdawg - go Dawgs!

(UGA law school grad here)

65 Mark my words, this idiot... no, he's too stupid and small to be an idiot. This idiotito we've elected President of the United States of America will yet figure out a way to lose Iraq.

66 US Military -- Casinos -- Aquariums -- Zoos -- Golf Courses -- Swimming Pools

The list of government programs that Obama believes don't work.

67 I want to see more details on this... I'm suspicious.

68

Easy enough, get rid of Airforce1 and Marinecorp1.

Make the bitch walk.

69 This the first move that truly hurts the US that Obama has made.

I'm scared for the first time - everything else is fixable domestically in 10 and 12.

Obama really thinks that he can talk to everyone and smooze and he'll bring world peace.  Scary, scary shit.

70 If you check google news, the only articles that seem to mention this are today and and 1 week ago, both of which are at insidedefense.com... I'll believe this suicidal BS when I see it.

71 I'm just speechless, dumbfounded at the ignorance of his decisions already. Is today just his 10th or 11th day in office? Amazing; and there's not a goddamned thing we can do about it.

72 Dave, its breaking news on all the cable channels....dbag.

73 Arrows cost money, the dead cost nothing.

Use up the Irish.

74 #43

Heh heh. Remember too, that in the book "Colossus, the Forbin Project" there was a whole religious sect created to serve Colossus.

Smells familiar these days.

75

Hey, isn't the military "worn out"?!

Seems to me, last time I had a car that got worn out, I just removed one of the sparkplug wires and...

Oh no, wait, I remember now... I repaired the car, changed the oil, and installed new tires!

I guess this CiC stuff is just completely counter-intuitive to those of us who don't have all of the Democrat military experts like Jack "Conquerer of Somalia" Murtha to rely on for advice.

76 @70: I hope you're right.

But I lived thru the Carter years. National suicide is what Liberals are all about.

77 Is it really?  I just checked FoxNews' site and Drudge and didn't see anything.  I'm at work, so... you know.

78

If you have been idly thinking that living in a major urban area is not such a good idea?  It might be time to start thinking a little bit more seriously along those lines.

As hard as it must have been for Bush to prevent attacks by doing everything possible to buttress our defenses - How much harder will it be for Obama to do so by gutting them and instead sending sternly worded letters?

79 This just can't possibly be true. In this day and age, with threats around every corner. Even the most liberal president in our nation's history can't be this dumb, can he? Please tell me he can't be this dumb.

80 Didn't Obama want to create several new army divisions? Like, add 50,000 new troops?

What's he gonna arm them with? BB guns?

81 77 Is it really?  I just checked FoxNews' site and Drudge and didn't see anything.  I'm at work, so... you know.

Posted by: DaveS at January 30, 2009 08:23 PM (mAp1o)

Who are you gonna believe- the voices inside your head or Ace's lying eyes?

82 OMG.
We're
all
gonna'
die.
This Obama guy has a death wish. He wants to be Lincoln or Kennedy and he's taking us with him.

83 AHHH, tbird was too quick or I'm too stupid to read the comments first.

84 As all these deranged leaders of other countries are pissing down Duh One™'s, you might think he would take umbrage at that and decide he can not talk them out of being assholes......

85 This might just activate McCain to do some good, and sadly, that may be the entire point of all of this - give Obama a bargaining chip to force the GOP to give him cover on the stimulus bill.....sad but perhaps true.  Cutting the military's budget is something the GOP could hold together on a filibuster......maybe.

86

This is hardly a surprise. Nevertheless...

Fuck this shit! This is Day fucking Ten. Damn these people.

87 Hopenchange cutting defense spending? I am shocked. Never expected this move in a million years.
//

88

I was having a conversation with someone earlier this week about all these hopeychangey changes already. He said, "yeah, I feel badly for all the children who are going to grow up into all of this ". Made me sad to think about the truth of this with my own. Now, I read shit like this and I can only hope they actually get to grow up.

89 Bumper Sticker idea:
"MY black president is Michael Steele"

90 From Fox's Raw files
"Obama asks Pentagon chiefs to cut defense budget more than 10 pe"

http://tinyurl.com/cq79om

91

Frum, Noonan, Buckley, Brooks, Parker, and the rest of you Vichy Republicans...

Now do you understand what the eff we were trying to tell you? 

92

Bumper Sticker idea:
"MY black president is Michael Steele"

I like your thinking and I'm wondering how I can sign up for your newsletter.

93 Well it looks like ammo will be getting cheeper.

94 Obie's Stimu-Bee
Rousing this community?
Take a valium.

95 I truly don't believe there will be any countrywide national awakening to the insanity going on in Obama, D.C. until we have another 9/11...and it is coming. Oh yes, it's coming and it's going to come hard. Tens of thousands of Americans are going to die because of this dumbass. Maybe, just maybe they will wake up from their dreamlike worship. It's going to be a colossal tragedy, but it's going to happen. It may be the only thing to snap *some* of these idiots back into reality.

96 It's on the Fox News web page in the raw news tab.

The Joint Chiefs need to look at cutting contracts based in some strategic areas....like Pelosi, Reid, and Frank's districts. Cut every feel-good, PC, kumbaya program in DoD.

OT: further down the list on that raw news tab. The Super Bowl elected official guest list at the White House. Several (R)'s on the list, need to watch out for these guys.

WH RELEASE:

The following is a list of elected officials who will be guests at the Presidents Super Bowl party.

Senator Bob Casey (D-PA)

Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL)

Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)

Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA)

Congressman Elijah Cummings (D-MD)

Congressman Artur Davis (D-AL)

Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)

Congressman Charlie Dent (R-PA)

Congressman Mike Doyle (D-PA)

Congressman Trent Franks (R-AZ)

Congressman Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)

Congressman Paul Hodes (D-NH)

Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC)

Congressman Patrick Murphy (D-PA)

Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI)

97 Vichy Republicans?  Good one.

Obama is shooting for 10% of the military vote, which they won't count anyway.  

98 Wow, all this in less than 2 weeks in Office.

Hillary may smell an opportunity to get the guy impeached in a year.

And to think, you braindead rightwingers tried to argue that Obama was a socialist who would tax and spend and cut the military and shit.

The economic chops of FDR.
The integrity of Clinton.
The foreign policy elan of Carter.
The bullshit of LBJ.

What a gem!

99

Somehow I suspect there's a lot more "distinctly unhelpful" rhetoric in our future.

I realize liberals embrace the idea that a good day will be when "schools have enough money and the military will have to hold a bake sale to build a bomber" (and, God help me, for a time in the 90s when I was a confused liberal I actually owned that shirt, I'm sorry, I'm on my knees in apology now) but in actuality that will not be a good day, because that will be the day that the schools will need that money to re-build after getting bombed to hell and back by our emboldened enemies.

100 @96

I'll bet Grahamnesty's feewings are hurt. I'm totally surprised his lame ass isn't on there.

101 I'm still skeptical... this would be a HUGE political problem for Obama.  Maybe they are being asked to scale back increases in budgets?  Do you know what the total budget for 2010 was compared to 2009?

102 Hillary may smell an opportunity to get the guy impeached in a year.....At the rate he is fucking things up, a year will be too late, something will be a glowing pile of rubble by then.

103

How come liberals never think of defense spending as "stimulative"? Answer me THAT, damnit!

Indeed! Even if a stimulus package is needed, Defense spending is THE ULTIMATE stimulus package. Why?
1. It's often high-tech
2. It's more often than not manufacturing oriented
3. When #1 and #2 don't apply, it's infrastructure and construction oriented
(examples include communication networks, interstate highways, strategic
petroleum reserves)
4. Spin off technologies hit the civilian markets, from teflon to the
internet
5. It's 100% made in the USA, by law, for national security reasons.
British, Israeli, Japanese, and other foreign companies who do occasionally
win defense contracts must produce the goods under license in the USA with
American subcontractors.

104

#74 I just dug out my VHS copy of The Forbin Project and we're going to watch this for family movie night. The next movie will be Red Dawn. Must.not.forget.

105 what more do people need to realize he is trying to make us all vulnerable and ripe for a take over?

106 @ 9:

Really? "Thievery"
You say? With the right mandate,
Acorns become forests.

107 Says the OMB will announce the budget topline guidance Monday. I'll wait till then to freak the fuck out.

108 One of these days, Barack Obama is going to stride to the podium, laugh maniacally, and pull off a latex mask to reveal a cackling Jimmy Carter, shouting "Bite me, Bitches!"

_{Think about it:  We haven't seen the birth certificate, the college grades, no one remembers him from law school, etc.....}

109 To Rohrsach @ 18:

Sweet voice of reason
At a carbine's working end:
Font of all that's good.

110 Damn democrats.  Always with this shit.  And right when I'm looking to get out of my current job and apply to JAG.  Thanks alot, asshole.

111 Forbin Project kicks ass.

112 Quickie search shows:

$514.3b for 2009
DoD to request about $571b for 2010.

Not including Iraq/Afghanistan war supplementals.

DoDBuzz

113 Well fuck my titties hard! This asshole is making jimmy carter look like Richard the Lionheart.

114 What is Diderot Dupe yammering about?

115 @107: Exactly.  This is a lot of "ZOMG!!11!!" over very little verified information.

116 At least Clinton could chortle about a 'peace dividend' as he gutted the military in the early 1990's.

Hey look - there's no Soviet Union any more! The Red Threat is gone!  There's no real enemies out there anymore!  It's time to.........spend our peace dividend! 

So he eliminated entire divisions from our military, gutted alot of the spending on HumInt (Human Intelligence - i.e., boots on the ground that spy for us, for the uninitiated) the world over. 

Obama's doing this with a war on. 

He's got no 'peace dividend' to spend. 

117 $514.3b for 2009 ... DoD to request about $571b for 2010.

So, he's asking them to limit growth in their budget to 1-2%.  That wouldn't be unreasonable, if he wasn't about to blow a trillion dollars on bullshit.

118 Take it out of your heating bill, bossman.

119 101 I'm still skeptical... this would be a HUGE political problem for Obama.  Maybe they are being asked to scale back increases in budgets?  Do you know what the total budget for 2010 was compared to 2009?

Posted by: DaveS at January 30, 2009 08:45 PM (mAp1o)

OK, suppose one were to stipulate that is the case.  What do liberals and the press (I repeat myself) call it when a smaller increase than originally planned is proposed?

And would you care to lay odds that any other government department will be similarly affected?

Why this reluctance to believe that a leftist will cut defense?  It is what they do. 

120

Well fuck my titties hard!

Now we're talking!

121 95 - I truly don't believe there will be any countrywide national awakening to the insanity going on in Obama, D.C. until we have another 9/11...and it is coming. Oh yes, it's coming and it's going to come hard. Tens of thousands of Americans are going to die because of this dumbass. Maybe, just maybe they will wake up from their dreamlike worship. It's going to be a colossal tragedy, but it's going to happen. It may be the only thing to snap *some* of these idiots back into reality.

I feel this as well.  The "O" is gathering a perfect storm for this to happen which I believe has already been planned in advanced.  Remember, Al Queda, et.al. are very patient.  They wait for the right moment.  I fear that the next attack will make 9/11 look like a tip-toe thru the tulips.

122 That wouldn't be unreasonable, if he wasn't about to blow a trillion dollars twice the defense budget on bullshit.

When you put it this way, it's a hell of a lot scarier.

123 Clarification to my last post = The planning in advance isn't from "O" but from Al Q.  He is just the unqualified CIC who is setting us up unwittingly.  Biden may be right about one thing in his life....gird your loins.

124 But any cut in defense spending right now, while we're still at war, is fucking insane.

125

By the way, that 10% is "just a start" if the reporting is accurate.

126 You know what I wish?  I wish all the liberals of the Earth had one throat....and I had my hands about it.

127

What do liberals and the press (I repeat myself) call it when a smaller increase than originally planned is proposed?

Of course they would call it a cut, but I'm not a libtard... I don't do that. I don't say otherwise simply to disagree with them, I say it isn't a cut because it isn't a fucking cut.

And would you care to lay odds that any other government department will be similarly affected?

No. Of course they won't.

Why this reluctance to believe that a leftist will cut defense? It is what they do.

I don't believe that they would actually cut it, no. They would cut rates of growth over a number of years until it is a smaller piece of the pie.

This is still retarded, because--as noted above by someone else--this is cutting funding that is going to actual jobs that actually exist, much of it very highly paid word... it isn't some theoretical bullshit that might help in 2011. 

128

Frum, Noonan, Buckley, Brooks, Parker, and the rest of you Vichy Republicans...

Now do you understand what the eff we were trying to tell you? 

Seriously they sold the farm for national defense and have been clinging to the idea that Obama will be centrist on security. Most of these people claim to be or were Catholics at some point so they should be intimately familiar with the concept of

Mea Cupla......Mea Maxima Culpa

Penance is hard but they rewards are many, piece of mind being the most valuable.

129 You'll note that this came out late afternoon on a Friday. That's just the sort of pussy move that President Shithead would do, and to me, that lends a lot of credence to the story.

130

CoolCzech @ 80: Spitwads. Zell Miller said it.

 Paranoid @ 99: No, they've banned bake sales now, too.

131 One too many, DD...

132

This is how little the media and Obama care about our country.

Tomorrow Iraq, the only true arab democracy, is having its third national elections.  Remember the purple fingers of a few years ago, all the trials our country has gone through to get there?  The blood and treasure spent to bring democracy to a dark corner of the world?....Nothing, absolutely nothing on msnbc, cnn, or even drudge for that matter.  Its even hidden on the corner of foxnews.

Guys this is historic.  Their first election without training wheels thanks to the hero of the past 8 years, President Bush.  Imagine what the world would be like if his knees buckled like this twit who is current in charge will.  "Oh 58% of Americans think I should wear a red tie to dinner...sounds like a good idea."  Welcome to the age of moral relativity and no convictions.  Sure Bush had serious issues on spending and immigration, but were gonna miss his will to do the right thing, not the popular thing.  Now all we have is some two-bit crack dealer from Chi-town running our country.

133

This is by far the dumbest & most disgusting move he's made.

Vying for least effective [& popular] CiC EVER, Barack?!?

Absolutely idiotic. 

134 Well, the Navy is already downsizing (need about another 10K to go) and ironically, many who were O supporters are the ones that are most likely to go.  Something about not having all their quals, lazy, etc.  Oh, the irony.  I warned them ahead of time and now they are going to see I was right.  Too bad it's too late for them.

135 Didn't Obama want to create several new army divisions? Like, add 50,000 new troops?

What's he gonna arm them with? BB guns?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 30, 2009 08:25 PM (iafWn)

Good luck with that because I've predicted that re-up rates are going right in the shitter with this worthless punk as CIC.  The only way that's gonna happen is if that dumb cocksucker Conyers' plan for a fucking draft gets passed.  That's the ticket:  Flood the boot camps with the illiterate products of the failed public schools, each with his own personal ambulance-chaser to make sure their rights aren't violated.  This is really working well.

136

This should make the code pink people happy.

137 But he's planning on hiring 30 or 50 thousand more troops: how can he do that AnND cut spending 10 percent as two wars rage?

I'm flabbergasted.

138

DaveS,

I am sorry about the churlish response.  I am too emotionally invested in this subject to deal well with skepticism.

139 #125...

But of course.  How ever can we possibly compete with Europe's socialism, let alone overtake it, with this ball and chain of military spending?  After all, they've slashed their defenses to fund utopia all the while counting on us to protect them. 

This US military spending is hurting all the groovy kid's plans, as we now have the Bloviator in Chief as President.  I feel certain he can stop missiles with hot air apologies, followed by a strongly worded, but calm and determined note.   

Just like Jimmy Carter.  And you see how seriously Iran takes us now, doubters!

140 Exactly Captain Hate.  Then all of these human cockroaches who get sent to boot camp will come out with knowledge in the fields of weapons, evasion, forced entry, and tactics.  Fun, Black Militants all rocked and ready with a sense of entitlement.

141 Well you gotta set priorities, not like there's a war going on anywhere.  Besides, Nancy needs the money for STD and abortion programs in San Francisco.  Like I said, "priorities".

142 115 @107: Exactly. This is a lot of "ZOMG!!11!!" over very little verified information.

Well, you're part right.

Most. Open. Administration. Evah.

143 I see one term in Obama's presidential future...

Carter finally got his second term.

144

Ginger,

you do have a way with words.

145 They don't want to cut soldiers, DaveS, they want to destroy Star Wars. Because THAT'S why that hate us.  If only we couldn't defend ourselves we could all get along!!!

Nobody with a lick of sense at DOD will do that, of course, and that will set up Obama to talk about the DOD bitterly clinging to it's Star Wars weapons while soldiers are fielded naked with nurf guns and flip flops.  Wait for it....

146 Im gonna be honest here.  In 4 years this country will suck ass.  But where do we go?   Pretty much everywhere else in the world is worse and here I get to have both a gun and a plasma TV.  Is it revolution or shall we just watch our society die.

147 Fuck me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! internet explorer has been fucking with me all fucking day long. It keeps kicking me off. Ok, I got that off my chest.

I say we all send the WH some condoms, so maybe they won't need to spend bajillion moolahs on some fucking dick wrappers.

148 DaveS,

I fully expect the Obama administration to be a disaster for the DoD, but from a procurement side, they've done an excellent job of fucking things up all by themselves.

149 So let's see... there were all the Obamacans who said He won't be a leftist, he'll be a centrist, governing moderately. He won't surrender the war on terror.

We've got a guy who wants to outspend through deficits even the profligate GWB. Perhaps by triple the amount. He's closing Gitmo and probably bringing prisoners and terrorists here. He's apologizing for the evil of this country on Saudi Arabian television. He's pouring cash into every Democrats' dream pet program imaginable. But he is willing to cut one thing... the military, even as he lied and will keep troops in Iraq on a shoestring, and pour more into Afghanistan... on a cut-rate budget as well.

So, Obamacans, is this what you promised us? Hey, David Frum, I'm looking at you. But I confess I can't tell which end is your head and which is your anus. They look so much alike.

150 Even if Obama wants those cuts - I think there's a chance the "cut" is in the rate of spending increase - I doubt the Senate would go along with it. Even the more mature Democrats aren't that insane.

151

#128:

Good thing they are all Catholics.  They better start praying and going to confession.

152 I'm buying 12 gauge ammo and spam. That's how hopey and changey I'm feeling these days.
I figure the Blue Ridge will block most of the blast and the jet stream will carry the fall out over Maryland, so I'm probably good to go.

153 #135...Captain Hate.

I've been wondering about re-up rates.  Remember all those stories about horrid retention rates blamed on Bush, they just couldn't find enough soldiers?  Now I'm thinking that is really going to become a problem, stat.

And as a breezy aside on a topic that is deadly serious, how many reports about plunging recruitment and re-up rates in the age of Obama will be blared across the headlines? 

154 @147: uh, I think that's "dick fucking wrappers," Ginger...

155 CoolCzech,

I'd love to agree.  I'm drawing a bit of a blank on the "mature Democrats" in the Senate.  It's yet to be decided on this "stimulus" deal how many "mature Republicans" are in the Senate.  Maybe after that vote we can count heads!

 Perhaps the 3 in red states, like Ben Nelson?  Maybe?

156 If there is a very bad attack on his watch, I hope the millitary stages a coup. If they do we on the right need to be ready to support them because the moonbats will turn out in droves to protest. By support I mean we need to be ready with bats and guns to help with crowd controle for any lefty that tries to pull any crap.

157 As I recall, most of those stories about reenlistment rates during W were either distorted or flat out lies. Like the lie about suicide rates among the military, which are actually lower than in the general population.

158 Oh shit, I just remembered: we don't NEED military power anymore, folks! Hillary said we're going to have SMART power from now on!

NOW I can sleep better.

159 This is how we get unemployed grunts.

That shit will NOT fucking fly.

I ain't hiring, but if I get an app from a recent veteran, you better believe I'll think hard before I pass that up.

If the military downsizes (or if some troops just can't bear to serve Obama), I hope those of you who are in a hiring decision loop argue as much as you can for veterans.  They tend to make great coworkers, but this goes deeper than that.

160

Ohhh look out Barry has strong language for them.

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The United States said Friday that North Korea's "rhetoric is distinctly not helpful" after Pyongyang announced it scrapped agreements with South Korea on easing military tensions.

And if the North Koreans don't behave after that, Obama will be forced to send them a strongly worded letter.

161 I give up caring.Just sit back and watch pron and let the world burn.....

162 @160: well, maybe 90 percent of a strongly worded letter. Budget cuts, don't ya know...

163 DD's haiku fad
Taught him to use "return" key
Wonders never cease

164

I'd like to apologize to all military folks past and present.

I did not vote for this shit.

165

The Military loved George W Bush.  He increased pay, treated them as heroes, and made many unpublicised visits to Walter Reed.....

Our country is dying of rabies.  Is the best we can do is wipe the random flecks of foam from its lips?

166 It may not be a bad idea to just give up news watching for the next brutally long four years, folks!

167 91

Frum, Noonan, Buckley, Brooks, Parker, and the rest of you Vichy Republicans...

Now do you understand what the eff we were trying to tell you? 

"Oh, but he's too SMART to govern from the left!"

That reminds me of that Seinfeld where Elaine didn't think it was possible that the guy she had a crush on was pro-life because "he's so good looking"

168 This is stupid. From a purely political point of view, Obama picked a fight with Rush, with Conservatives, with Republicans, in his first week. Now he wants to cut the military 11%, or gut it, killing lots of defense contracts as well as eliminating positions ... in a depression.

While nuclear threats abound. All it takes is one attack on the US, and Republicans can and will (no reason not to) attack Obama for being a Muslim who cut the military first time he could. Along with letting the Gitmo terrorists out, and handing out condoms to Kindergartners, that sort of thing.

Obama seems to think that unlike every other President, he can magically have high approval ratings once he decides things one way or another, and that his Muslim background gives him all sorts of slack with the American people on Defense.

Believe me, the powerful contractors (Raytheon, Lockheed, Boeing, etc.) that get hosed in this deal are not going to just pick up the Little Blue Book of quotations from Obama and sing his praises. There will be 527s aplenty. All to make his liberal-left pals happy, with no payout.

He's DETERMINED (along with his attempt to get the military to swear a personal oath to him not the Constitution, currently a rumor but probably a nutty idea from his Wife) to pick a fight with the one institution that America holds in high esteem. In a time of war. And Depression. With a side-order of a big fight with Defense contractors who NEVER stop fighting for programs.

And who, have, by the way, lots and lots of employment in Democratic Districts. How's about an attack ad: Representative Demo-Dummy and Obama the Muslim cut the Defense dept. and 10,000 jobs in your district. Vote Republican Candidate A!

It's stupid. Obama and his team don't even have Clinton level competence in governing.

I expect his approval ratings to drop like a stone. Oh women will still love him (he is after all the uber-celebrity) but men will hate the guy like a non-stop showing of the View.

169 More hopeless change.

170 We don't need a national horror.  Jimmy got shit canned for the Iranian hostage crisis.  It can be small, dramatic, and still make the point.  Now, do we have someone waiting in the wings to scare the shit of the mullahs and other would be terrorists in 2012? 

And can the Republicans make enough of a showing against this insane Democrat congress that we have hopes for a revolution in 2010?  This week they're doing pretty good. 

171 "do we have someone waiting in the wings to scare the shit of the mullahs and other would be terrorists in 2012? "

I believe that would be one General David Petraeus.

172 Can I say Dead Country Walking?

173 Ginger - I'd like to volunteer my services...if you know what I mean ;-)

Boogersnax - nice to know that there is somebody out there that's looking at vets for new employees (I retired last year and am looking for work now)...

174 Wonder how many of our men and women in uniform are now exploring career options in the private sector?  May not be a bad idea.

175

I support David Patreus for President in 2012!  Talk about someone who would be outstanding.  It would be like having Teddy Roosevelt or Andrew Jackson or...uh...Ike as president again.

176 You know what...we had it all wrong, it was Change and Hope...Change everything and Hope it does not kill us all...that's it

177 Fuck it. I'm off to the Galactica thread. There might be a sex discussion going on. Always better than Obama's latest zaniness. It's only been ten days? I'm exhausted already... How can we cope with at least 4 more years of this?

178 I'm surprised no one's run that Rorschach from Watchmen/angry survivalist quote...

...

...

...

Ok, here goes...

"The world will look up and shout 'Save us!'  And I'll whisper, 'No."

Now, that's better and more AOSHQ-like.

179 How can we cope with at least 4 more years of this?

Pron and Rolaids.

180 #167
+1. That's exactly the RINO frame of mind.

181 notropis...He strikes me as the kind of guy who might be open to it, based on nothing but gossip of course, but here's to hoping someone like him rises to the top in the next 4 years.  Today, we've got nada. 

And can we all take a deep breath?  (or not)  We faced down the Russian bear with the idiot in chief during the seventies for 4 years.  Clinton gutted the military. No need for the loose shit until the time for loose shit arrives. 

182 179-On this site, do you really have to ask?  Duh, Val-U-Rite and Gatorade powder.  The Singapore-Ass-in-a-Sling, if I'm not mistaken.

183 Folks, I REALLY don't want to end up in a re-enactment of Red Dawn.

Dammit. Time for a 5.56mm reloading session.

184 Cut 11% from defense budget...I wonder how the senators from the following states would handle it:

CA, WA, GA, CN, KS, ME, VA, FL, HI, AK, MS

What do they have in common - Big Defense industries and military bases....

Fuck You Barry O!
Fuck You Joe Biden!
Fuck the Democratic Party!

185 Go Dimocrats, go!!!  Let's cut military funding 20%!  You guys pussies or something?  Only 11%?  Hell, make it 30%!  Just THINK of all the social programs you could fund on that.  Just THINK of all the people you could hook on sucking the federal teat and who would never ever stray from the party line.
After all, as The Chosen One and Pelosi have reminded us, YOU WON!

186 Is it me, or is obama playing a fiddle?

187 That better be some pretty good pron, Ginger: industrial strength.

188 CoolCzech, I was thinking triple action industrial strenght, if you know what I mean.

189

Hoss Fuentes, you have the quote wrong....Quit taking the bullshit movie quote and read it in its true context.  Over the past 2 months there has been nobody I have identified with more.  If Rorschach in the movie isnt nearly as conservative as he is in the novel Im gonna be pissed.  Its absolutely brilliant.

Here it is...

 "This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or President Truman. Decent men, who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of lechers and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipice until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice. Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody hell, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth-talkers, and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say.

190 Um, obama could get his dear friend william ayers to bomb the Pentagon, that might help cut some of the budget.

191

Someone sent me this as a forwarded email today. I do not know if it is true or not, but it is a good allagory for Barack’s stimulus plan and the law of unintended consequences. Yeah it is long, but it is also pretty funny:

<blockquote>We have the standard 8 foot wooden fence in the backyard, and a few months
ago, I heard about burglaries increasing dramatically in the entire city.

To make sure this never happened to me, I got an electric fence and ran a
single wire along the top of the fence. Actually, I got the biggest cattle
charger Tractor Supply had, made for 26 miles of fence.

I then used an 8 ft. long ground rod, driven 7.5 feet into the ground. The
ground rod is the key, with the more you have in the ground, the better the
fence works.

One day I’m mowing the back yard with my big wheel push mower. The hot wire
is broken and laying out in the yard. I knew for a fact that I unplugged
the charger. I pushed the mower around the wire and reached down to grab
it, to throw it out of the way. It seems as though I hadn’t remembered to
unplug it after all.

Now I’m standing there, I’ve got the running lawn mower in my right hand
and the 1.7 gigavolt fence wire in the other hand. Keep in mind the charger
is about the size of a marine battery and has a picture of an upside down
cow on fire on the cover.

Time stood still. The first thing I notice is my balls trying to climb up
the front side of my body. My ears curled downwards and I could feel the
lawn mower ignition firing in the backside of my brain. Every time that
Briggs & Stratton rolled over, I could feel the spark in my head. I was
literally at one with the engine. It seems as though the fence charger and
the POS lawn mower were fighting over which would control my electrical
impulses.

Science says one cannot crap, pee, and get a nut at the same time. I beg to
differ. Not only did I do all three at once, but my bowels emptied 3
different times in less than half of a second. It was a Matrix kind of
bowel movement, where time is creeping along and you’re all leaned back and
BAM! BAM! BAM! you just crap your pants 3 times. It seemed like there were
minutes in between but in reality it was so close together it was like
exhaust pulses from a big block Chevy turning 8 grand.

At this point I’m about 30 minutes (maybe 2 seconds) into holding onto the
fence wire. My hand is wrapped around the wire palm down so I cant let go.
I grew up on a farm so I know all about electric fences… but Dad always
had those crappy chargers made by International or whoever that were like 9
volts and just kinda tickled. This I could not let go of. The 8 foot long
ground rod is now accepting signals from me through the permadamp
Ark-La-Tex river bottom soil. At this point I’m thinking I’m going to have
to just man up and take it, until the lawn mower runs out of gas.

‘Damn!,’ I think, as I remember I just filled the tank! Now the lawn mower
is starting to run rough. It has settled into a loping run pattern as if it
had some kind of big lawn mower race cam in it. Covered in poop, pee, jizz,
and with my balls on my chest I think ‘Oh God please die… pleeeeze die’.
But nooooo, it settles into the rough lumpy cam idle nicely and remains
there, like a big bore roller cam EFI motor waiting for the go command from
its owner’s right foot.

So here I am in the middle of July, 104 degrees, 80% humidity, standing in
my own backyard, begging God to kill me. God did not take me that day… he
left me there covered in my own fluids to writhe in the misery my own
stupidity had created.

I honestly don’t know how I got loose from the wire… I woke up laying on
the ground hours later. The lawn mower was beside me, out of gas. It was
later on in the day and I was sunburned. There were two large dead grass
spots where I had been standing, and then another long skinny dead spot
were the wire had layed while I was on the ground still holding on to it.

I assume I finally had a seizure and in the resulting thrashing had somehow
let go of the wire. Upon waking from my electrically induced sleep I
realized a few things.

1- Three of my teeth seem to have melted.

2- I now have cramps in the bottoms of my feet and in my right butt cheek
(not the left, just the right).

3- Poop, pee, and semen when all mixed together, really do not smell as bad
as you might first think.

4- My left eye will not open.

5- My right eye will not close.

6- The lawn mower runs like a son-of-a-bitch now. Seriously! I think our
little session cleared out some carbon fouling or something, because it has
been better than new ever since.

7- My balls are still smaller than average yet they are almost a foot long.

8- I can turn on the TV in the game room by farting while thinking of the
number 4 (still don’t understand this?)

That day changed my life. I now have a newfound respect for things. I
appreciate the little things more, and now I always triple check to make
sure the fence is unplugged before I mow.

The good news is that if a burglar does try to come over the fence, I can
clearly visualize what my security system will do to him, and THAT gives me
a warm and fuzzy feeling all over, which also reminds me to triple check
before I mow.</blockquote>

192 #184
Hey, we're suicidal here in Clownifornia. Both Babs "Cranium of Pus" Boxer and Dianne "I get a gun and you don't" Feinstein will gladly immolate defense industries in this state. It will just give them cover to raise taxes even further when revenues shrink from aerospace.

193 the only missing Carter touch is a tax increase.

Give it a few months. There's no Panama Canal to give away this time, and you won't be seeing The One in a sweater (he's Hawai'ian, you know...never mind that he's lived in bloody cold Chicago for how many years now...), or running from a rabbit.

194 Seriously what kind of fuckwit cuts the defense budget with 150K troops deployed?

That's rhetorical, I take it?

195 Rorschach-Point taken.  Read the comic, know a good chunk of it is paranoid propagandistic liberal pap (or at least Alan Moore's stated meaning of the comic is), but still love it.  I have to say I'm a bit more partial to the Comedian, but that's just me.

196 I like the way you think, Ginger. One triple coming right up! Finger licking good...

197 Liberals don't run from rabbits anymore, silly!  They're too busy hiding from their wives.

198 This deal keeps getting worse....................

I'm altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further

199

Really? "Thievery"
You say? With the right mandate,
Acorns become forests.
What is Diderot Dupe yammering about?

That shit makes ACORNs grow, I think.

200 My read on General Petraeus is that he would only run if we were really, really, really deep in the shit, security-wise.

So, if that's true, I hope he doesn't run, because him not running would mean that things aren't quite so bad.

He doesn't seem to have any ego to feed, just military brilliance, coupled with a clear-eyed understanding of the world as it really is, and an unshakable love for his country.

And I couldn't possibly care less what his party affiliation is.

201

I liked the Comedian with the exception of his moral lapses.  I never really saw how it was liberal propaganda though.  Hell, the liberal was the bad guy.

The bad guy is a megalomanical hopey-changey homosexual, uberliberal who kills millions for world peace.  The world peace turns out to be a censured society which views us as equal and not morally superior to the soviets.  The only hero is the extreme conservative who stands by his morals at the end, and the only half hero is the Oliver North on steroids Comedian.  Everyone else acts in their own terrible self interest at the end and we are betrayed by characters we have grown to love...i.e. Night Owl.

202 I like to eat skittles while watching my pron. I'm partial to unicorn bondage. In sweaty saunas, they relax afterwards. Cigarettes and arugula salad for all!

203 I realize liberals embrace the idea that a good day will be when "schools have enough money and the military will have to hold a bake sale to build a bomber" (and, God help me, for a time in the 90s when I was a confused liberal I actually owned that shirt, I'm sorry, I'm on my knees in apology now)

Don't feel bad, during the first Gulf War, I was in a peace march...however, I had ulterior motives (pussy, of course), and I rooted for Bush quietly.

204 In other news but sort of related news, I got an increase in my VA benefits last month. I'm sure obama will take that increase from me and give it to some fat ass welfare bitch.

205 I still can't wrap my brain around the way the Clintons AND the Republicans were so inept they let this NOTHING into the WH.

What the hell happened?!

206 I don't disagree with you.  I'm referring more to those interviews where Moore complains because so many people like Rorschach so much that they think of him as the hero when he considers him a fascist psychopath.  That, and the implication that government-sponsored superheroes winning Vietnam and cleaning up the country's messes, and more than two terms of Nixon are inherently not just bad, but evil things.

207 My read on Petraeus is that his brilliance may come, in part, from being willing to listen to new ideas, even from those under him in rank.  Hence, his success in Iraq, is my guess.  The guys on the ground knew what was going on.  The brass, not so much.  This doesn't take a thing from him, it adds more IMO. 

That said, nobody gets to general without having an ego to feed.  He's got an ego.  I wouldn't be upset if it worked in our favor.  It's a very, very interesting idea.

208 What the hell happened?!

Someone fell asleep at the wheel.

209 oh Gawd I knew it. Hillary was a hawk, I told all the Dems this would happen.. What a disaster. I think he already told Medvevev that he isnt doing the missle shield...poor Ukraine and everyone all alone without us now..good Gawd Almighty.

210

 

Y'all just hatin' on me cos I WON!

white devil crackers.

 

 

211 Sorry to say I did not read the above... having said that,

ONLY 10%?!!

Yeah, elect a 'effin, I hate the US and will support the Ummah tranzi like Hussein, and it would be a surprise when he wants to stop spending federal greenbacks on national security and instead take the lives of the productive and give it to the parasites.

Go figure...

212 I was a liberal too. We were deluded and blind that is all I can say. I woke up about 18 months ago when I slowly noticed the media was corrupt when my candidate was the one on the receiving end. I am sorry.

213 Ginger, oh my goodness no!  You'll keep your benefit, the "fat assed welfare bitch" will keep hers, and I won't be able to pay my electric bill while sending my kid to college.  We'll all get the same shitty, government run healthcare, though.  So there's that. 

214 Say what you will about Mccain (a douchebag), but he NEVER would have fucked over the military during a war.  He may have taken too much credit for the surge, but at least he realizes a good strategy when he sees one.

Obama is actively hoping the USA loses ground in the war.  He doesn't want the USA to win.  Up is down.

215

Um, obama could get his dear friend william ayers to bomb the Pentagon, that might help cut some of the budget.
And by bombing USO dances, too, Ginger, think of all of the early retirement and golden handshake money etc. that will be saved. Just look at them as forced early retirements. And just think how pleased the NYT will be.

216 What the hell happened?  Two words:  John  McCain. 

217

The Watchmen shows how fucked up the left is.  Moore tries to write Ozymandias as the hero but to us he was more like a Metrosexual-Hitler.  He despises standing up for one's country, morals, and general conservativism.  This is exactly what we are fighting against, its refreshing to know one's own enemy.

It will be interesting to see how the movie comes out in the hands of Zach Snyder whose latest movie was a rallying point for conservatives everywhere and a repudiation of George W. Bush....300.

218 well this certainly puts the kaibosh on the economic studies by Feldstein and others pushing for MORE defense spending in the stimulus as it is better at getting into the economy quickly..of course now that Feds hire only union workers I dont know WTH those contracts will look like..my Gawd..

You know when Big Dawg did things like this we naively thought we had a peace diidend. My Dad, God Bless him, was in thw WTC in 93 and they really didnt get it was an organized terroriist network that couldnt be hanled in the legal system..

then the Cole came at the end and it was too late to change things..but NOW we are post 9/11, we KNOW what is out there now..this is not naivitee this can only be willful ignorance or something worse IMO

/rant off

219

Meh. The mania has reached its zenith and is ready to give us a spectacular show on the way down. Obama blew his load early, now all he can do is talk us into believing his bullshit.

For four years? Ain't happening.

220 Just make sure the bases close in blue states.  This may be tough on the Navy.

221 "nobody gets to general without having an ego to feed."

You're right, I mean, at least from the Tom Clancy novels I've read, and the WWII movies I've watched.

Other than that, I'm a total civilian, so I'll defer to anyone with actual, you know, knowledge.

222

Boogersnax, you are exactly right.  No matter our own party's faults, including John McCain, we would NEVER sell out the troops during a war.  I dont protest because thats only for faggots who have nothing better to do than make asses of themselves but I would actively do stuff if we sold our the military.

223 Our soldiers will have to work a second job to make ends meet, giving them less time to plan the putsch.

224 184. Buck Naked, add AZ to that list, we have a LOT of military contractors and contracts here a LOT...

225 "Other than that, I'm a total civilian, so I'll defer to anyone with actual, you know, knowledge."

You know someone who knows him and served with him?  Or perhaps you did?  Geez!  I'm not running the  man down, I'm saying it takes a healthy ego to get ahead and rightly so. If you don't believe in your ideas, who does?    If you're right, you have a healthy ego.  When did that become a bad thing?

226 No, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was/am in fact, a total civilian, with no other knowledge, whatsoever, than what I read in the news. I'm agreeing with you.

Seriously.

227 Rorschach-We'll see.  I really, really want to see it, but am worried it might be a hate-Bush/America-fest.  If Snyder does it like he did 300, thought, he'll pretty much play it straight rather than put a spin on it.  An interesting sign I think, though, is that in the Japanese trailer (I think.  Either way, it's online.), you see a quick clip of  Castro standing in the reviewing box for the May Day parade in Red Square with whoever the Soviet leader was supposed to be in the comic (Historically would have been either Chernenko or Gorby).  How often is it in Hollywood that Castro is considered an actual Communist?

228 I love Petraeus. Please... let's not turn him into another Grant.

229 So in less than two weeks Barry has abandoned Israel, Poland, Ukraine, South Korea and most importantly the United States. Bill Ayers must be very proud of his pupil.

230 I don't have any knowledge either, but I'd be willing to bet that Dave Petraeus would give Tom Clancy and WWII movies at least a tepid  "That's Hot Shit!" on attitude alone.  Who knows, he might be more enthusiastic!

231 Marine One will now be a lawn chair fitted with helium balloons.

232 No one said he was a drunk, Amanda.  It's quite possible he's successful and sober. He's commanding troops in the Middle East, after all. 

233 Completely bypassing the point but that's your prerogative.

234

So in less than two weeks Barry has abandoned Israel, Poland, Ukraine, South Korea and most importantly the United States. Bill Ayers must be very proud of his pupil.

The United Nations are having earth shattering orgasms right now. Just wait a few, they'll come charging in a day late and dollar short.

235 My mom's in her mid 70s now, and for about the last decade, her idea of Christmas shopping is to buy two of whatever she likes, and give one to me. Luckily, she isn't into clothes. That would be awkward. She is, however, into single malt Scotch and Tom Selleck.

So, this year, I got Tom Selleck starring in: "Ike, Countdown to D-Day." Loved the movie. Have no idea how accurate it is. And that's probably the idealized image I have of General Petraeus.

236 and this as major metropolitan areas are cutting police and fire ....this is incredibly scary...
the city plans to cut the size of its police force by 2,067 cops and 469 civilians. The approved headcount will be about 34,700, down from a high of 41,000 in 2001. NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly admitted that smaller police academy classes and attrition would make it hard for him to reach 34,700. "I expect officers to do more with less. They've responded, I believe they'll continue to respond. Would I like more police? Absolutely," said NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly. "Am I happy with this budget? No, but this is the hand that we've been dealt and this is the hand we have to play."

237

Assbags.  Assbags.  Assbags.

How long till the next attck on our soil?  5..4..3..2..Boom!

 

238 Bill Ayers must be very proud of his pupil.

Oh, I am. You should see the presentation I'm giving him next week on the penguin armies which will enable us to cut personnel to the bone and send those fascist rednecks back to the unemployment line in Shithole, Oklahoma

239 "Oh, but he's too SMART to govern from the left!"


I thought when he first got elected that he would play it smart/safe in his first term and govern right down the middle. But he's been as left-wing as he can be. Of course that's all he knows. His parents were radical leftists, everyone he's associated with are hard core lefties. In his twisted and ego drenched mind the United States, our military, the CIA etc. are his enemies. Clowns the in the Kremlin, North Korea, Fidel, Hugo etc. are all people him and his Marxist associates support.

240 In related news, Columbia University Anthropology Professor Nicholas De Genova has reduced his call for "a million Mogadishus" to "900,000 Mogadishus."

President Obama has promised to "see what we can do."

241 Well, notropis, my idealized version of Petraeus is the guy who didn't listen to conventional wisdom and got things done.  I'm trying to think of a modern version of that, but come up short.  Probably because I'm not military, cause if I was I could drop a name. 

Now I know we have a love/hate relationship with Bob Woodward, so we have to distance ourselves from his tell-alls, grain of truth, no footnotes and all that, but wasn't it his last book that said Bush side stepped his brass to initiate the surge?  Given the  ongoing, losing while running in place situation, that makes enough sense that I'm open to it. 

I'm thinking Bush looked down his command line for leadership and solutions, found Petraeus, and the rest is history.  And Petraeus looked down his command line looking for leadership and solutions and the rest is history. 

242 I'm thinking Bush looked down his command line for leadership and solutions, found Petraeus, and the rest is history.

Not the first time that's happened. Grant and Eisenhower come to mind.

Of course, sometimes reaching down the chain of command doesn't work out so well: George McClellan.

243 These guys are ten steps ahead of us. http://tinyurl.com/aom3pg

244 It never equals the positions lost....look @ The Presidio....makes a great park...

245 Yes, Obama. Cut the ranks. Give me unemployed grunts. Lots of them. Give me angry, hate-filled men who have gotten their hands dirty before and won't mind doing so again.What's a nice polite English translation of Freikorps?

134- I didn't reenlist, my back and knees weren't with the program.

156- Bringing a bat for riot control? I own a nicer AR- pattern rifle than I was issued. Not a problem.

And yes, King David has an ego, but then he's survived getting shot in the fucking heart (med-evacked to Vanderbilt in Nashville, then-chief of cardiac surgery Frist is the one who saved him), runs marathons in his 50's, and made four stars pretty young. He really is that damn good. Like I said, I worked for him.

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IN- Acorn, bee insurance, sod and condoms.

So, ummmm, Barry... how's you gonna pay for the extra 30K troops that you're sending to Afghanistan? You know, precisely the same number of troops that you insist did nothing to help the situation in Iraq. Yeah, them... the ones that you're sending into Afghanistan without a cohesive plan for anything and after you were explicitly told that the "surge" tactics that worked didn't work in Iraq (which is notoriously absent from news headlines these days... huh) would not work in Afghanistan because the situation is different.

Fucking jackass.

People were crying about how Bush is responsible for the deaths of soldiers in Iraq. Who wants to bet the the 30K deaths of underfunded troops were are about to see will be blamed on Bush too. Sure as hell can't hold our misunderstood fundamentalist friends responsible. They only kill people because we've treated them so terribly.

Maybe if we're lucky, Preznit Erkle will hurry up and fly off to suck off meet with his best friend Ahmeduchebag and they'll hold his ass hostage. I hope he forgets that current US policy prohibts negotiating with terrorist in hostage situations and the fucker starves there. 

247 "And yes, King David has an ego, but then he's survived getting shot in the fucking heart (med-evacked to Vanderbilt in Nashville, then-chief of cardiac surgery Frist is the one who saved him), runs marathons in his 50's, and made four stars pretty young. He really is that damn good. Like I said, I worked for him."

That's like 38 different varieties of cool. You beat out Baskin-Robbins.

Jindal and Palin are great people, and I'd love to see either one of them in the Oval Office some day. But, what we'll need in 2012, or as soon as we can get it, given what's happening in the real world, is a some sort of a Petraeus, ASAP; at least that's my guess.

248 I wrote in "Petraeus-Military Coup" when I voted in the Rep primary.  I'm beginning to think that a military coup/mass rebellion is inevitable, especially if the O wins a "squeaker" in 12. 

However, as Obama begins to rack up failures and his stimulus plan only spurs hyperinflation, those fucking scumbag resource-depleters/Millennials who voted en masse for Obama may become disillusioned as Republicans had become. 

249 205 I still can't wrap my brain around the way the Clintons AND the Republicans were so inept they let this NOTHING into the WH.

What the hell happened?!

He was born black, that's what happened.

250 It's called "fiscal responsibility". Given that the Democrats need to give a trillion dollars to their interest groups, so they need to cut spending somewhere else. Might as well cut non-essential spending.

Hope and change ! A trillion dollars is chump change, and the public is the chump. The hope is that the public won't notice.

For myself, I am content, as long as Hood River Distilleries gets bailout money so that I can continue to drink cheap.

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 Remember this from Preznit Expiration Date ?:

“You know, I’ve heard from an Army captain who was the head of a rifle platoon supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been sent to Iraq.

And as a consequence, they didn’t have enough ammunition, they didn’t have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.”

Well, that was then and this is now.

The rest of the government is getting a trillion-dollar raise cause they did such a great job of driving the economy into the dirt.

But the military–who has triumphed in Iraq despite the weather, despite Iran, despite al Qaeda and despite the Democrats–is being cut by 11%! And that’s just for starters!

Just last week, Obama swore: “I will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.”

With what?

Condoms?

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253 FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKKKKKK!!!!! THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT!!!!!!! FUCKING COCKSUCKER!!! *sigh* i hate democrats...

254 If this is January of 2009, and Obama was sworn in on the 20th, then I don't want to know what the next four years will look like.

I remember being told that the presidency will have "a moderating influence" on him. That he will move towards the center and stay there. That it wouldn't be viable for him to govern from the far left.

Well, I'm still waiting on that. This guy scares the living daylights out of me. His hubris is disturbing-- though the messiah-worship of his followers is even worse. Obama acts more like Louis XIV than POTUS. His whole attitude has been: "Je suis l'etat," and I am sick and tired of it. I'm tired of him, and I'm tired of his legions of sunshine patriots.

And then this whole business of cutting the defense budget by 11%. How could someone with such stupid ideas be so revered by the general public? Iran is nearly nuclear, Russia is rearming, Venezuela is allying with both of them, Al Qaeda is still hell-bent on destroying us, and he wants to cut the defense budget.

Maybe I'm this POed because I'm a college student and just subjected to Obama-worship daily.

255 Well, dismantling the military would give The One the ability to form his massive 500,000 person National Security Force that he's been quoted talking about. Remember, it's supposedly going to be better equipped and better trained than our own US Military armed forces.

I believe there will be real fighting in the streets if this comes to being an actuality.  I will be on the front lines (I'm retired USAF SrNCO).

Worst President ever. Everyday, almost every hour, the "hits" on America as we know it keep on coming.

256 I don't mind Obama being the smartest man in the world. I just wish it wasn't this one.

257 256  - Heh.

258 Wait - is this the budget cut the Pentagon Board recommended back in November or is this on top of that one?

259

Just need a few good men,

to cut 11% but cutting democrat-pork from the DOD budget.  Things like breast cancer research, whatever Kerry & Murtha & Reid & Clinton & Obama got larded in there. There is plenty of waste to cut, but it would be falling on your sword to embarass the Leader that way.

260 @36 Carter, it might be remembered, ran the military down so low we could not make repairs to aircraft or afford bullets.

Shit, my mom and dad were both in under Carter.  They worked at Whiteman, where they were keeping a big portion of the nukes at the time.  Dad's squadron was supposed to have something like 3 Hueys ready to go at any time, with 2 up and a few in reserve and they could only field 2 total because the others were being stripped for parts.  It got so bad by the end of Carter's administration that everyone had to bring their own toilet paper to the base if they thought they would have to use the head!

261

Thanks Ace!  The  cut to defense budget ran across the bottom of the screen on fox news in the wee hours of the morning.  Having fallen asleep with the set on, I awoke the next morning and began an online search for more information on the subject and found nothing. 

No reason for any of us to be surprised.  Afterall, the candidate Obama chose the gym and shopping over visiting injured soldiers in german hospital.  His total disrespect for our troops was apparent but did not prevent his election.  Pray dear patriots and stand tall.

262 I remember being told that the presidency will have "a moderating influence" on him. That he will move towards the center and stay there. That it wouldn't be viable for him to govern from the far left.

Wanna think about something REALLY scary? I'd bet money that, in his mind, he already moderated a lot of these policy proposals.

263 Its not that the military likely can't stand a few cuts, there's waste in all levels of government (and any soldier can tell you of waste). The problem is that he's not demanding these cuts everywhere and calling for increased spending elsewhere.

264 And I will laugh my ass off at all the loudmouthed non-white Obama supporters in support units who drove around with his stickers on their POVs when they don't get their annual raises, any spare parts, and their motor pools are full of dead-lined vehicles.

265 Sgt. Dan.....Slackers love it when there's no repair funds...I saw it happen on the USS McKee the days of Bush the Elder. Duty weekends were spent watching football. When Bubba got elected, my enlistment was up and I was out after 8.

No sense being in a pretend Navy.

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