1 I can haz win?

2 This is weird.  I just realized that Obama got me to listen to Rush again.  I haven't tuned into his show in a year or two.  Thanks,  Barry.

3 And be sure to point out to all those new workers that they can get right to work so they can send in taxes to pay off the debt that we incurred getting them that job.

Hey, why not just cut capital gains to 0%?  That'd cost a lot less and produce a lot more.

4 the White House plans to release state-by-state job figures “so we can put a number on what folks voted for an against,” an administration aide said.

I see that it didn't take long for the retaliation to begin....how wonderfully bipartisan.

5 Oh.  You think Barry just fucked up the chances of reinstating the Fairness Doctrine by getting into a dust up with Rush so early?  It will look even more like it's personal.  Even to the most moderate sheeple.

6 Change the order to "Reid - Obama - Pelosi" so we can still use the "ROP" acronym and it can do double duty.  That's economical, right?

7 nickless
That would be to easy and simple for the Dem's that's why they only come to power once in a blue moon.

8 If the bill passed easily in the House, why would Our Lord and Savior feel the need to conjure up state-by-state numbers to get Republicans on his side? He already won. Also, I thought there wasn't enough time to do this kind of detailed work for this emergency spending bill.

9 Pushing back against the unanimous House Republican vote against President Obama’s stimulus plan, the White House plans to release state-by-state job figures “so we can put a number on what folks voted for an against,” an administration aide said.

“It’s clear the Republicans who voted against the stimulus represent constituents who will be stunned to learn their member of Congress voted against [saving or] creating 4 million jobs,” the aide said.

 

It's so comforting to know the White House is filled with mincing little bitches like this.  "Well, YOU'RE not gonna get any ice cream!  Everyone else is, but YOU'RE not!"

Fucking pussies.

10 "....the White House plans to release state-by-state job figures so we can put a number on what folks voted for and against, an administration aide said."
____

Good. Then we can go back to those numbers over the next few years and remember the good ole days when unemployment was only in the single digits.

Republicans had better get on the ball about getting out their message as to why they opposed it, point out all of the bullshit pork in it and explain exactly why it won't help the economy. All of the idiots that listen to the MSM think this stimulus is 1.1 trillion dollars of hope and change that will
fix everything immediately.

11 The only reason for this "stimulus" is a vulgar attempt to get the public loose and wet for the upcoming bills focused on Democratic agenda items.

It's kinda like spiting on your hand and ramming 4 fingers into a rape victim before having your way with them.

12

From what I have heard everything that conservatives managed to get squashed in the past few years is back in this abortion of a package. Not only are illegals to be able to get these “checks” but the SCIP bill they are smashing through as we speak restored illegal eligibility for that as well.

 

In addition, yesterday Demint was giving a speech on the floor and he said that some of the money would go to States that SCHIP is allowed for adults who have NO CHILDREN. That ain’t SCHIP.

 

What would be nice is if we had that much vaunted “free press” that would bring up all this stuff. Instead we have a bunch of ass kissing fawning shit heals who have sold their soul to the communists back in the Walter Durante days.

13 Hey, it's not MY stimulus bill! Heh.

14
I'm curious to know what the Republican plan entails. I have my own stimulus plan. It's very simple and will be very effective: Give each state $1,000/resident to be strictly used to repair or build infrastructure. For example, Massachusetts would get about $4 billion to spend on roads, bridges, and airports. It would help to improve every sector in each state's economy. And it would only cost about $300 billion.

15 You mean that support for the messiah and his wonderful plans have fallen from its usual 150%?

16

Consider it even lower than these polls say. They are all shit that are slanted to artificially inflate his numbers to begin with. Just like they did during the campaign. Polls take 3 days to do and yet there are al lthese polls within a day or 2 of each other than show a difference.

I don't need a bullshit poll telling me wht my opinion is supposed to be but isn't. Take a look around your cities and nieghborhoods instead.

17 I can't help but notice how that nut graf is worded.  Starts with a number in support (42%), a fraction in opposition (1/3), and an ambiguous "rest" who want more govt spending.

Secondly, the fraction is incorrect; it's not 1/3, its 39% - 6 points more than 1/3.  In fact,  that number is closer to the 42% that the 1/3.


Jussayin'

18
Republicans need to get on the Senate floor and explain to their shithead colleagues that Caterpillar and Boeing are laying off people and downsizing, they are not spending their way back into profitability.

And unless some of that $820 billion is going to Caterpillar, Boeing, or other companies, not a single job will be created or preserved.

19 Money for illegals? The GOP should be hammering him with this every single day.

Cut some commercials now, dammit. Hell, I'll edit 'em for free.

"In the midst of the worst economy since the Great Depression, Barack Obama wants to take your money.....and give it to noncitizens who broke the rules."

"While you're struggling to put food on the table, he's busy lecturing that you have to sacrifice even more to fund his party's pork barrel spending"

"Call the White House today and ask Barack Obama......"

"Just whose President are you, anyway?"

20 White House plans to release state-by-state job figures “so we can put a number on what folks voted for an against,” an administration aide said.

I wonder how fast this will get pulled when it does not improve or the improvements do not track to recipients of stimulus?  Sounds like another good website I don't have time to put together.

21

8 If the bill passed easily in the House, why would Our Lord and Savior feel the need to conjure up state-by-state numbers to get Republicans on his side? He already won. Also, I thought there wasn't enough time to do this kind of detailed work for this emergency spending bill.

---

Nothing else is working to provide cover for Dems for this turd. Last ditch effort is to try and guilt/strongarm them. any fake idea of bipartisan went out the window with "I won"

22 If the bill passed easily in the House, why would Our Lord and Savior feel the need to conjure up state-by-state numbers to get Republicans on his side? He already won.

Because, should the porkulus plan fail, he could say "Hey, it wasn't my fault, the Republicans thought it was a good idea, too."

23 Just from a purely strategic point of view, even the RINOs in the Senate should all vote against this bill and try to get some bluedogs to come along.

They can actually block passage that way and truly have some power in the upcoming legislation. Otherwise, they're just an easy, skanky blowjob in the parking lot and will receive the same consideration in the future.

A Republican rejection in the Senate will give the Republicans true power. And show BO they won't just rollover. It's good politics *and* the right thing to do.

Chances of it happening with turdballs like Grahame and McCain: 50 to 1 against.

24

In order to convince the girls of Maxxim that they need to screw my lights out, I present a breakdown of the VD rates in all 50 states.  What that doesn't make sense?

25 "Call the White House today and ask Barack Obama......"

"Just whose President are you, anyway?"

Not yours, you dirty Bible and gun clinger!

26

I'm curious to know what the Republican plan entails. I have my own stimulus plan. It's very simple and will be very effective: Give each state $1,000/resident to be strictly used to repair or build infrastructure. For example, Massachusetts would get about $4 billion to spend on roads, bridges, and airports. It would help to improve every sector in each state's economy. And it would only cost about $300 billion.

States already get plenty of money from the Fed.  They need to not be dumb during good times and put away a rainy day fund and stop over spending.  States that do it right get penalized by paying for this garbage.  Cut corporate tax rates in half.  Cut tax rates on savings and capital gains.  Stop taking money out of the economy to help the economy.

27

"You mean that support for the messiah and his wonderful plans have fallen from its usual 150%?"

Obama's self-approval rating accounts for nearly 60% alone!

28 In order to convince the girls of Maxxim that they need to screw my lights out, I present a breakdown of the VD rates in all 50 states. What that doesn't make sense?

No.

Try roofies, Sith mind tricks, or the old standby I have a shitload of money, wanna go back to my yacht for a good screw?

29 The thing I don't get with people is how they get excited about locally-directed federal pork.  Why can't they see that they're paying for other states' pork at the same time?

30

You know...it just dawned on me.  I know, I'm a little slow sometimes, but still...

A couple months ago, Joe Farah pointed out on WND the strategic color-shifting of the MSM when indicating Democratic versus Republican victory on electoral maps.  In the really not-too-distant past, for example, when the Democrat candidate won CA, it turned red, and when the Republican candidate won TX, it turned blue.

Without doing any actual research into the colloquialism, would this be where the phrase "blue-dog democrat" comes from?  They're a democrat, but they're pretty conservative, so they're a "blue" democrat...  But, now that the MSM exchanged the colors (to subconciously link the Republicans to Soviet Communists...no, seriously...), the phrase "blue-dog democrat" has lost its meaning, because now ALL democrats are blue...

Or am I way out in left field here?

31 “It’s clear the Republicans who voted against the stimulus represent constituents who will be stunned to learn their member of Congress voted against [saving or] creating 4 million jobs,” the aide said.

Did the fuckers at Politico put this [saving or] in their report?

What the fuck is that shit?  Usage of 'or' can grow any fucking subject into majority support if you want.

32 The term Blue-dog Democrat is a spin on Yellow-dog Democrat.  And they're both older than TV.

33 Reason:

from wikipedia:

"Blue Dog Democrat" is playfully derived from the original term Yellow Dog Democrat. It was former Texas Democratic Rep. Pete Geren who said that the members had been "choked blue" by those "extreme" Democrats, from the left.

34 Stimulus is so simple to implement, just declare a withholding holiday of X weeks with option to continue if things do not improve.  People get money in two weeks, not years.

No massive Federal effort, relatively easy to implement at the payroll level.  People's incomes increase, so the stimulus would "pay-back" the budget in some magnitude within a year.  Don't muck it up with corporate tax incentives, etc. - just a simple, easy to understand solution.

McCain and Forbes are the only ones who could present this.

35 800 billion is enough to employ 17% of the population of the United States at the July 24th minimum wage for an entire year.

Just saying.

36 Clearly, I am a moron.  Thank you to those that actually did research for me.  I appreciate it.

37

A couple months ago, Joe Farah pointed out on WND the strategic color-shifting of the MSM when indicating Democratic versus Republican victory on electoral maps.  In the really not-too-distant past, for example, when the Democrat candidate won CA, it turned red, and when the Republican candidate won TX, it turned blue...  But, now that the MSM exchanged the colors (to subconciously link the Republicans to Soviet Communists...no, seriously...)

Actually, the color shift was to obscure and bury the now rather embarrassing pro-Soviet leanings of some Democrats in the past.

38
"This is weird.  I just realized that Obama got me to listen to Rush again.  I haven't tuned into his show in a year or two.  Thanks,  Barry."

If it wasn't for The One, I never would have gotten my FOID or tried shooting. Many thanks to His Unicornness for getting me into guns, and getting me to join the NRA.

39 At one point the Republicans suggested allowing people to pull their money out of IRA's without penalty to pay off homes, or college loans etc.  They need to reiterate that, as well as lifting the requirement that people 70 and older draw down their IRA's, which effectively forces them to sell their quality stocks into a falling market.

My Dad has been forced to sell stock from his IRA, and immediately buy it back into his brokerage account.  Not everybody has the cash to do that.

40 Or am I way out in left field here?

Way out.  Google the term and you'll see what I mean.

41 The Associated Piss is pushing the fiction that "the bulk of the stimulus plan goes towards rebuilding infrastructure to meet 21st century demands".  I guess 5 percent is bulk to a retarded reporter.

42 Congress hates tax cuts for two big reasons;

"It's the government's money, not yours"

"We're the best and brightest and we know better how to spend that money than those idiots who voted us into office"

43 I always thought that "red states/blue states" was an attempt in the 90's to turn the tables on true-blue conservatives and label them rednecks. Liberals probably also thought that getting rid of their own 'red' label would mean everyone would overlook their socialism.

But reverse elitism made the plan backfire. I'll gladly call myself a red-neck to stick to the blue-bloods that fund the Democrats.

44

Stimulus is so simple to implement, just declare a withholding holiday of X weeks with option to continue if things do not improve.  People get money in two weeks, not years.

No massive Federal effort, relatively easy to implement at the payroll level.  People's incomes increase, so the stimulus would "pay-back" the budget in some magnitude within a year.  Don't muck it up with corporate tax incentives, etc. - just a simple, easy to understand solution.

McCain and Forbes are the only ones who could present this.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2009 02:30 PM (L64A6)

Yeah but that gets back to the old story about the 10 guys buying drinks at the bar and proportionally paying based on their tax status.  The people that are already paying zero don't get any of the benefit so they're all pissed off.  Its the same issue there was with the last stimulus package where people were getting back the $600 in taxes.  The democrats didn't want the people who made "too much" to get anything back, and wanted to ensure that people who hadn't paid anything did get something.

45

I caught the esteemed former DNC chairman, Howard Dean, on cnbc this morning before work. Of course, he was smiling that little creepy shit sandwich smile and talking about how the Republicans still haven't learned anything from election results. the part I found interesting was his comment, and I paraphrase, that he did not necessarily think we ought to expect profits from taxpayer monies into TARP and banks. To say I was enraged would be putting it mildly.

Ace, I don't know where his comments can be found, but linking them would be instructive. I think he was being interviewed at Davos.

46 Isn't a lot of the Republican plan based on some formula's that Obama's on Finance chair or whatever in the Whitehouse wrote in a book/study a few years ago.  I forgot her fucking name.  That's just delicious if true.  The Republican's pushing a plan based on formula's that come from an Obama economic staffer that double the jobs for half the cost and HE WON'T USE IT???

47 35 800 billion is enough to employ 17% of the population of the United States at the July 24th minimum wage for an entire year.

Just saying.

With minimum wage at
- $6.55 / hour
- 40 hours / week
- 50 weeks / year
- 50 years / working life
ya get
- $655,000 / working life.

with $800B / $655,000 / working life
ya get
1,221,374 working lives.

Rather than raising taxes by ~$10,000 / family to pay for this boondoggle, I suggest that it would be more beneficial to the general public to simply draft 1.2 million and work them over fifty years, or say,
draft 12 million and work 'em for five years.

Just saying.
1221374

48 I'll bet you spent a lot of time writing that, dd. That sucks for you. Now go away.

49 Almost as much time as my fellow socialist Hussein spent explaining his plan.

50 What the fuck ?
Now , I've smoked a lot of reefer in my day and consumed many gallons of scotch ,still,,, at my absolute kneewalking worst I made more sense than fuckin' Diderot's Dog.

51
That's Numberwang!

52

How has it escaped all discussion in this country of what the unemployment rate would be if we didn't have tens of millions of American jobs taken illegally by the citizens of another country???

How would merely enforcing the existing laws of this country not for all intents and purposes solve our unemployment "problem" completely????

 

For FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

53 That this is even close just shows you how poorly the GOP gets their message through. Everybody's tightening their belts at home--that's a big part of the problem--and we cannot convince more voters that the government needs to watch their budget also.

54

Bambi's press secretary was calling it a "recovery plan" today instead of a stimulus plan.  Heh.

The Narcissist in Chief is not going to take the Republican's snub lightly.  If he were smart he'd just move on and keep walking, but his ego cannot allow him to do that, so he'll get his "revenge" by posting job loss and blaming on Republicans.

 

55 I've always wished we, as individual taxpayers, could check boxes on our tax returns on where our money goes.

Military.......check
Roads.........check
Hobo Habitat .......check

56 “It’s clear the Republicans who voted against the stimulus represent constituents who will be stunned to learn their member of Congress voted against [saving or] creating 4 million jobs,” the aide said.


Hmmmm...I think I can HEAR the sweat trickling down the neck of the chosen one...maybe he just has the heat up too high.

57

So why does the Mall have to be sodded? Just throw a bluegrass/rye/fescue blend around and tell people to stay the hell off of it for awhile. Sodding is expensive, seeding is not.

There, I just saved the American taxpayers over 100 million dollars.

You're welcome.

58 create 6.2 million jobs for only $478 billion.

$478B/6.2M == $77K/job

I presume these jobs consist largely of cashing checks?  Well, I can create 12.4M jobs for $478B by just making them $38K check cashing positions rather than $77K check cashing positions. 

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