1 PAC'in Heat.

2

3 I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that illegal immigration isn't all that high on Alaska's list of priorities.

4 I just registered there. I'll donate when I see it heading in a direction I like.

5 I'm looking forward to getting a real handle on her politics.

6 The logo's rather clever. Alaska superimposed over the lower 48, actual size. Graphically illustrating that the Cuda controls an area 1/3 the size of the continental US.

7 Sarah Palin *is* a hetero doxy, if you get my meaning.

... and I think you do.

8 Okay, maybe not actual size, but relative. Shut up, I'm a moron.

9 Don't talk about Palin and flesh in the same sentence. You'll get a lot of folks started.

10 Not to mention bone.

11

I hope her PAC beats the crap out of McCain's.

12 she is going to raise millions from this thing.  Very smart idea that shows she still is a BIG part of the national political scene.  This is the start of a possible 2012 campaign.

13 Speaking of McCain.

Bi-Partisan curious...........and loving it !


http://tinyurl.com/6zjc6w

14 Even with some separation since the election, I find myself still wanting to have sex with her.  And it's a powerful urge.

15 http:////tinyurl.com/6zjc6w

16 It says it is her official PAC, but it also says "Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee".  But I guess she is not a candidate for anything so this is legit... right? 

I guess what I'm wondering is to what extent this is her's.  Is she the head of it and directs everything?  Or is there going to be some knucklehead rino running it and using her name?  Although she probably would not give permission to use her name for that. 

If this is fully her effort, they need to put up a youtube video of her saying so, or some other type of "signature".  I'm a little skeptical of republican politicians right now.

17

Sarah is paying Alaska residents dividends from the profit of oil sales.

I think that is a slippery slope. This simular to the the policy in Kuwait. In Kuwait the kids hire noncitizen residents to do their household chores. I would not want to hire anyone to do my.......oh wait  yeah um  Hey Go Sarah Go!

18 I'd hit it........

19

Slow-loading site this afternoon. You morons must all be thinking the same thing.

20 I just sent her PAC $25 bucks and I  STILL can't get a date with her! Always my problem with MILFs.

21 Well McCain's camp certainly has no love for her.  Did you catch the WaPo article today on Rush Limbaugh?  It had a McCain Campaign guy throwing Limbaugh and Palin together as the "far right" if my memory serves me correctly.

22 Very positive move. It's important to not confuse this with being an announced candidate (see Frist, Bill) but it certainly means she's preserving the option and intends to "throw a block" in the effort to fight Obama's socialist onslaught.

23 Good for her. If nothing else, this whole experience with McCain and the press has given her a good understanding of how vicious and unfair the liberal and some conservative pundits and media can be. If she decides to run again, she will know what she needs to do differently in dealing with those scum.

24

Palin/Boehner 2012 !!!1!1!

25 Palin/BONER 2012!

Damn, she's hot. Red hot GILF.

26 Hmmmm.

"Sarah is paying Alaska residents dividends from the profit of oil sales."

I had a problem with that too until I watched "Tougher in Alaska" on Discovery.  I didn't know that a lot of villages are off-grid and every family needs their own oil storage tank for surviving the winter.

I think it works basically as an offset to high energy prices.  Energy that Alaska produces for the lower 48.  If energy prices are low, and thus cost of surviving winter is low for residents, then the residents don't get much.  If energy prices are very high, and the cost of surviving winter is consequently high, then the residents get some extra cash to pay for the winter oil.

Not super happy but I don't think many people could have survived $140/barrel oil otherwise.

27 Hmmmm.

Here's an example:
http://www.thetundradrums.com/news/show/4517

28

UN Official wants Bush tried for warcrimes

http://tinyurl.com/ak7bgo

 

29 Is it 2012 yet? Did we survive?

30

Posted by: Krazy Kat at January 27, 2009 04:59 PM (K4Zxt)

Posted by: memomachine at January 27, 2009 05:18 PM (kPJKz)

The dividends are constitutionally mandated.

31

Palin would make an able VP choice for Mitt Romney.

Best Regards

32
I love Sarah Palin but she and her supporters are going to spend 3/4's of their time defending against baseless personal attacks; Palin will never be able to get down to the nitty-gritty of the issues.

Also, my confidence of Palin was really shaken when she was punked by a couple of turds in Canada pretending to be Sarkozy.

And, also, Palin did lousy in an interview with a birdbrain, Katie Couric. If you can't run circles around Katie Twit Couric, you're not ready for primetime.

33 McCain attracted staffers that were often less conservative than he was, except on military/defense issues.

What the effin' Beltway GOP crowd needs to understand is that the center of gravity of the party is no longer in Washington. If we know one thing, it is this: the next conservative president will not be elected because he/she met with the approval of some former McCain staffer or the WaPo or anyone with a metro DC residential zip code.

34

26

Hey my comment was all snark. I would take a dividend check in a NJ heart beat.

35 Hmmm.

@ Darling

"Also, my confidence of Palin was really shaken when she was punked by a couple of turds in Canada pretending to be Sarkozy."

*shrug* I wouldn't know Sarkozy by voice.  If someone at the office told me that Sarkozy was on the line I'd take it at face value.  If that voice had a really ridiculous accent then what?  Do you make an accusation?  What if it turns out to -be- Sarkozy?  You end up looking even more ridiculous for accusing the President of France of not being French.

IMO the fault lies with the staffer who didn't filter this out.

36

30

Really whats not to like?

37 Hmmm.

@ Krazy Kat

"Hey my comment was all snark. I would take a dividend check in a NJ heart beat."

Only over Corazine's dead body.  In the State of Taxation, otherwise known as "New Jersey", nobody gets dividends.

38

Doesn't a gallon of milk cost somewhere around $11 in Alaska?  I never hear them really complain about any of it, so I don't readily know.  But if that's the case, then I am totally cool with them getting dividends from sale of natural resources.

At least at first blush, it sounds pretty in-line with the general conservative concept of "strong states, small central government to step in only when vitally necessary."

39 fox is making the announcement now regarding Palin's PAC during Beck.

40 How does this tie in with the PETA ad.


I'll be in my pantry.

41

She's a player; she needs to do this.

 

I'm a player, I needs to do her.

42

Sarah is paying Alaska residents dividends from the profit of oil sales.

The dividend is from the permanent fund, established by amendment to the Alaskan Constitution back in the '70s. The Governor doesn't have much to do with setting the dividend amounts, even if they wanted to. 

The reason for the permanent fund's existence is that Alaskans got pissed off at how the late 60's state government wasted the money. So the idea was to take a good portion of Alaska's oil money and render it immune from partisan politics.

43 I do wonder if the hurdles she would face, from the media and stupid electorate who believe the media, would be too much to overcome. That said, she and Jindal are definitely the future of the conservative party.

44

I am six flags over Steel getting RNC Chair, and Jindal being a big player in 2012.  Romney needs to work his persona. He is pinched, and often you get the feeling that he is your boss, ready to fire you...Sad.

I admire Palin but I agree with other poster here that she would be a distraction, unless she addresses these issues before she runs...

45 But I can't talk about her testicles, guys!!

46 Romney needs to over come his interview with Hannity.  That's what Romney needs to over come.

47 -

Things I Learned while Watching "It's Tougher in Alaska"

It's tougher in Alaska.

Things I learned watching Fox's "When Animals Attack">/i>

Animals, sometimes they attack.

-

48 Palin has been Quayled.  I'm afraid there is no coming back from that. 

49 polynikes,

Maybe.  But no one else is going to draw money like she will.  Unless you'd rather the party did without all that.

50 OT - What is happening at the RNC Chairperson election or debate or whatever it is they do to elect a new chairperson? Does anyone know?

51 We don't need money.  We just need me to talk about balls.

52

I admire Palin but I agree with other poster here that she would be a distraction, unless she addresses these issues before she runs...

Posted by: ford at January 27, 2009 05:39 PM (Ki7fm)

How the fuck is she supposed to address "these issues" w/o a PAC? The only way to get the message out is to raise gi-fucking-normous amounts of coin and hire people to get it out, as the MSM pseudo-humans only report slander and innuendo. I'll contribute, even if she has no plans to run in the future, simply to help counter the lies.

53

The Obvious at January 27, 2009 05:46 PM (1g+FW)

I have no problem with her PAC. I was strictly speaking in regard to her chances at a national elected office.  I could see her in someone's cabinet though. 

54 Like I said.  She'll raise tons of money.  Heh.  It would be even funnier in a way...knowing she was pulling the strings from behind the curtain.

55 I like Mitt Romney. I think he is very smart, and a fine communicator. I don't even mind that he is a Mormon. But the guy looks like at any time a circuit could blow and we would find out he is an android. I would start talking about Palin, but my wife is nearby and would wonder why I am drooling.

56 polynikes,

Don't jump the gun.  Right now there isn't a single Republican in this land who could get himself or herself elected to the presidency, and the party isn't improving.

57 48 Palin has been Quayled.  I'm afraid there is no coming back from that. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2009 05:45 PM (m2CN7)

Fuck that. They will "Quayle" anybody whose not a POS Ivy-League inside-the-beltway leftist cocksucker. If the MSM pseudo-humans are now deciding who is or isn't fit to be elected, the country is fucked no matter what. Besides, when The Jug-Eared Jackass fucks everything into oblivion, and he will, the MSM who foisted his sorry ass upon us will have zero cred. It won't matter what they say when people are freezing to death in their homes because of rolling blackouts caused by his idiotic luddite energy policy.

Her approval/ disapproval rating as of a couple weeks ago was 49-40, even after months of mostly unanswered, non-stop negative stories, 99% of which were unadulterated propagandist fiction.

Finally, even if she decides not to run the PAC will be worth it, to counter the lies of the MSM filth if for no other reason.

58

37

Your right about Corazine. I think the policy says alot about Palin. That is my point. She is a giver not a taker. Sarah sold off State assets and cut the State budget. She even jogs to work sometimes. Palin's aim is true and when it comes down to it I would rather have one straight shooter in a governing job than a congress full of thirld world mentality FOLKS. As an asside I just moved home to NJ last year after 30 years in Florida.

59 One of Nixon's last post-presidency books, titled In the Arena, has a chapter called "Wilderness" where he explains what he did between 1962 (when he lost the CA Gubernatorial Election) and 1968 (when he was elected president). Basically, it comes down to three things: (1) he improved his political skill-set; (2) he worked very hard helping other Republicans get elected; (3) times and opinions change.

As the CBO report shows, Obama's trillion-dollar stimulus gambit is almost certainly going to be a failure. The American people, in 2012, are going to be increasingly unemployed, increasingly taxed to pay for Obama's spending, and increasingly rip-shit angry at the bill of goods they were sold in 2008. It doesn't guarantee GOP victory, but it probably means that the public will be looking for a  plausible defender of middle class values and interests "hockey mom" rather than the most famous celebrity in the world.

60 Besides Palin and with luck Jindal, who do you think will seriously want to run in 2012?

I would imagine there will be plenty of conservative phonies that are interested in the job. We must not let that happen again.

61 I voted for Palin back in November.  It sure as hell wasn't for McCain.  I eagerly look forward to seeing the Full Palin with no McCain staff fucking it all up.  The reaction she gets from the trolls really speaks volumes don't it?

62

All you folks who are trashing Palin over the “interviews” or because she would have to spend time defending herself from baseless media attacks are making the same mistakes that led to McLame getting the Republican nod.

 

YOU ARE LETTING THE MEDIA MAKE YOUR DECISIONS FOR YOU!

 

Those interviews did not represent Sarah Palin….they were edited to make her look bad. In that, maybe she has learned to either do live interviews or to demand a contract in writing that the interview will not be edited.

 

Oh one other thing, Romney is another squishy Republican RINO.

63 31

Palin would make an able VP choice for Mitt Romney.

Best Regards

/end quoted text

why would she want to run again as the VP for another RINO?

Romney and all the other tired old white RINO's need to get the fuck out of the way and let a Republican run for President........

IMHO, of course.

64 In that, maybe she has learned to either do live interviews or to demand a contract in writing that the interview will not be edited.

Not to mention, keep her own camera and crew running non-stop. I wouldn't trust the media cocksuckers to obey a no-edit contract.

65 Here's my thinking on amnesty: it's a done deal, that was decided definitively on Election Day. So in other words, it's a non-issue. Border security on the other hand... THAT's where she needs to be vocal as a stalwart conservative.

I'm glad to hear about her PAC, but want to see give speeches and write books on her views. She needs to do what Krauthammer suggested: take time to read, read, READ and become as familiar with every national and regional issue as she is with Alaskan politics and energy issues. The only way she can overcome the hatchet job the media will continue to do on her will be to answer every question during interviews in a way that is credible and can't be ridiculed without making the Left look ridiculous.

Did I mention she is an incredibly hot fox, and would make the world's first POTUSILF?

66

Did you catch the WaPo article today on Rush Limbaugh?  It had a McCain Campaign guy throwing Limbaugh and Palin together as the "far right" if my memory serves me correctly.

More crap from John Maverick McCrap's people --

From Chris Cilizza's Post column -- John Weaver, a former senior aide to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), said that Republicans must be careful not to allow their Democratic rivals to paint them all with the brush of Limbaugh.

"The Democrats and the far left will do all they can to grab electoral turf," said Weaver. "And one sure way to do it is take some of the most controversial voices on the extreme right -- like Limbaugh and [Alaska Gov. Sarah] Palin -- and try to insist they speak for all members of the center/right movement."

67 Jindal is a Creationist moonbat, and has no business running for President, unless you all want Juggy to get reelected......

68 Sarah is paying Alaska residents dividends from the profit of oil sales.

These payments predate Palin by decades, and are mandated by Alaska's constitution.

69 64: exactly. I don't trust those fuckers worth a squirt of piss. She needs to agree ONLY to live interviews, and have her own camera crew or, at least, consultant to guard against crap like the Turkey setup. Shame the media is so childish, but there you go...

70 If we push Palin 2012 hard enough, maybe the media be less gung-ho and giggly about the next person they feel they need to 'quayle'. 
What hope can we ever have for a decent POTUS if we pretend the media is the final arbiter?

71 Is Palin qualified. Yup. Far more so than our current White House-sitter, especially.

That said, she needs to work on letting everyone else know that she's qualified. Sure, McCain's folks are pathetic and threw her under the bus, the Couric and Gibson interviews were edited within an inch of their lives and completely on a mission to trash her... fine.

But she still did a shit job in handling the press. As much as I like her, she always positioned herself like she was auditioning for something and trying to impress people. She the Governor of the largest state in the Union and has accomplished more on top issues in her 2 years as governor than the D.C. crowd has done in the last 20 or so. She needs to start throwing some weight around and shutting people up. That's where she's lacks what the DC players have. They bitch slap the media.

72 If she runs for senator in 2010 and wins, by 2012she could brush most of the media shit off as inexperience.

73

If we push Palin 2012 hard enough, maybe the media be less gung-ho and giggly about the next person they feel they need to 'quayle'. 

 

Dream on. The media is still portraying Edward R. Murrow as a media saint and McCarthy as the devil incarnate and he died in 1957.

74 I just joined SarahPac and kicked in for a continuing monthly donation. 

Due to the volatility of the conservative values held by currently serving Republicans - I stopped all donations to the Republican party and other Pacs when McCain lost the election and big wig Republicans started unloading baggage on Palin.  Previously - I was a regular donor for McCain in spite of my reservations about him.

Now when Republican operatives call me for $$ - my response will be to inform them that all my political contributions go to the Sarah Palin PAC - because she is a true conservative who will stick by her principles.  If they want money from me - I'll suggest they seek her endorsement and then I'll consider it.

And about Palin's politics - the record (pre-McCain) is there and there is plenty of it.  She's a compassionate person - and doesn't hold ill will towards opposing points of view - but she's no fan of big government.

She is also the best we have right now.

75

Jindal is a Creationist moonbat

Posted by: redc1c4

I hope the worms are gentle with your corpse.

76 This would be a good way to veto any pick for RNC chair that is a RINOdouche.  Instead of donating to the RNC, donate to the Cuda PAC.

And let them know.

K

77 Of the Right Palin has the biggest target on her back than any electable, political entity; so, the PAC and it's development at this early date is a great idea.

Is she viable? Of course she is. The Democrats and the MSM (BIRM) will smear her or any real antagonist to leftythink no matter what - guaranteed - and we've seen it in spades already with Palin in VP 2008. The Right cannot let that happen as mentioned earlier. Do not let the media define the candidate.

That is the real test and purpose of the PAC at this point. Its effectiveness at getting around the dying MSM, though it still holds most of the cards, will remain tantamount and the measuring stick by which we will predict Palin's presidential success.

The parallel question is can the conservasphere fight off its own RINO-class so that it isn't undermined by those who think "moving to the middle" is the key to electoral success. We have a pretty decent track record on how well that works out, so those who promote it while trashing Palin/Limbaugh are pretty much ignorable at this point. The conservatives need to provide momentum for the pendulum to swing against compassionate conservatism and Pelosi-esque Marxism. Palin's PAC is a great start if she is actually behind it and not some ancillary group just capitalizing on her appeal.

And fuck McCain. Thank heavens she's free from the albatross.

78 And seeing as how some of you morons can't take your eyes off of Palin, there is a little link at the bottom of the page called FAQ's.

Here is a largish snippet.

How will contributions be spent?

Your support of SarahPac will make it possible for Gov. Palin to continue to be a strong voice for energy independence and reform. By supporting SarahPac, you will allow Gov. Palin to help find and create solutions for America's most pressing problems; priority number one is building a strong and prosperous economy that recognizes hard work, innovation and integrity by rewarding small businesses and hard working American families. SarahPac will support local and national candidates who share Gov. Palin's ideas and goals for our country.

Who is behind SarahPac?

Gov. Sarah Palin believes all Americans must work together for the future, regardless of their party affiliation. Gov. Palin is the official chair of SarahPac, and its supporters are Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and those unaffiliated with any political party.

(emph mine)

K

79 meh - but be going viral - the site won't even load for me. Half a page and .... nada. For shits

80

Not to mention, keep her own camera and crew running non-stop. I wouldn't trust the media cocksuckers to obey a no-edit contract

Another good idea I read in a comments section (probably here) was that she should wear, or have displayed on her desk I'd opine, a timer clock so you could see when the edited version of the interview ran, how much time had passed between answers and questions (and vice versa).

BTW, Jacques Chirac was punked by the same two Montreal disc jockeys phoning pretending to be Canada's new Prime Minister.

81

My initial impression is that this is some Soros site trying to trick me into funding them.

How can you demostrate it is authentic?

82 Yeah I got to that "Who are we? Gov Sarah Palin believes... " as if her beliefs were "who we are". This is not making any sense to me. It has to be a tricksy liberal suck-hole to take your money and use it against conservative/libertarian purposes

83

Palin has been Quayled.  I'm afraid there is no coming back from that. 

Not really. Quayle couldn't fight back (even if he had been capable) because he was under Bush I's aegis. Sarah was on McCain's leash, too.

Now she's on her own and—bonus—wiser, too.

84 @81: Well, Fox News reported it today as her official site, for what that's worth...

85 I think we can safely say that Palin will be the nominee if she runs.  I expect a huge crossover vote in our primaries and they're convinced that she's damaged goods.  Being moonbats, they will not acknowledge any evidence to the contrary.  Which means it's probably in our best interests to get her in a position to fight.

I'm not demanding anyone give up their opinion, that just seems the likely case to me.

86

I'm in. It's the only little bright ray of sunshine to come my way in months.

...and I live in sunny California.

...for now.

87 John Weaver, a former senior aide to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), said that Republicans must be careful not to allow their Democratic rivals to paint them all with the brush of Limbaugh.

"The Democrats and the far left will do all they can to grab electoral turf," said Weaver. "And one sure way to do it is take some of the most controversial voices on the extreme right -- like Limbaugh and [Alaska Gov. Sarah] Palin -- and try to insist they speak for all members of the center/right movement."

First, Chris Cilizza can suck my neighbor's dog's dick. The one with mange. Second, I was willing to give McCain the benefit of the doubt last year, because he was all we had to fight Waffles. But now, I can proudly say... Fuck you, Johnny MacMaverick. Only a master backstabber would hire other backstabbers like Weaver. I only wish I were an Arizonan... so I could vote against you.

88 Palin wasn't ready for prime time, and she's not going to be ready for prime time. She'll raise bundles of money, she'll galvanize people...and she won't be a national-level winner.

Arguing that "she's the best we got" is no argument. If Sarah Palin is the best candidate that the GOP can field for POTUS, then we're pretty much doomed, and aren't looking hard enough. I don't care what people say about "ambushes," and "letting the media define her," and all that other puppy-love denial bitter-ender nonsense. She ought to stick to being a leader in the party, doing her part to shape conservatism going forward--noble and necessary work, all of it--and abandon any ambitions toward national election.

89 ...said (former McCain aid) Weaver. "And one sure way to do it is take some of the most controversial voices on the extreme right -- like Limbaugh and [Alaska Gov. Sarah] Palin -- and try to insist they speak for all members of the center/right movement.

God, I'm starting to loath the McCainiacs.

If Palin is so "extreme right," why did McCain freaking choose her to begin with?!

90 I refuse to link directly to EeyorePundit, but he wants to let you know that your betters who are Repugnican members of Congress think you had better not listen to Rush or anyone like him (this would include Palin). You have been warned.

(howls of laughter)

91 I checked out her site... she looks great.

Unfortunately, judging by the policy description portion of the site (there isn't any) I think she put the cart before the horse. She still hasn't done her reading, and come up with some positions she can claim as her own. Read, girl... read!!!

92 Sarah Palin has more character and internal fortitude than either Quayle or McQueeg.

She apparently decided it was her time to follow Ronaldus MAgnus and get into the national scene while she still has the name recognition thing in her favor. Good press or bad, you know who she is. If the MSM wants to get her under the mike now they have to do it by her rules or not at all. You know they hate having rules dictated to them, since they are the Deciders, after all, but like the day she did her interview where the guy was killing turkeys, she made sure the viewer knew she's not some squeamish shrinking violet and she'll get the job done wherever she winds up in '12.

She probably knows the MSM did its best to marginalize Ronald Reagan after he lost to Ford who lost to Carter the Bumpkin Jihadist in '76, too.
Reagan ignored them, their opinion of him, and proceeded to clean the floor with that smiling Friend to Dictators, all the while cheerfully telling the people to ignore the press. He ignored them, used them against their will, and won in a landslide that the MSM never saw coming.

I remember the press wondering how Carter lost even as the tallies came in...Palin has that level of name recognition, the rest is organization and planning. I think she has all the chance in the world if a conservative has any chance in this handout greedy damned nation at all...

93 "...if the press wants to get her under the mike now they have to do it by her rules or not at all."

The Press chooses not at all. She needs press, they don't need her. Your post presupposes that she's operating from a position of authority; she's not. And if you think The Press is going to be dictated to by someone they've already owned, on at least two separate, well-publicized instances, well, sir, please have another, it's on the house.

94 She'll raise bundles of money, she'll galvanize people...and she won't be a national-level winner.

Well,  for a unknown politician who governs  'way out in the frozen hinterlands' she sure does capture America's national attention easily; next to Obama number two on goggle search. . 

In a couple of years America will need  real energy to revive her broken engine and Gov Palin is someone who will be in the position to deliver; building a grassroots on energy and small business is encouraging to me.

As for national security, I have a feeling that nothing will ever be a bad as the current CiC we have now.

Whatever her style, I know beyond doubt that she is the type of American who would fight to the death to  protect the Constitution and those who defend it.

That's what I like about her. 

95 Syn: Earnest sentiments, and none I substantially disagree with. But a question: Do you think she could beat a national-level Democratic candidate and get elected President of the United States by the current electorate?

I didn't think so. I don't, either.

96

I think the worst thing that happened to Sarah was the two week seclusion while they handled her, brought her up to speed, whatever, then tossed her in front of Caddy Kouric.  I knew about her before the primaries and what I saw and my impression was someone trying to respond the way she had been told to respond rather than just being herself. 

I would have put her out there on the campaign trail immediately and let her talk about energy policy and  brought her up to speed on the plane between rallies.

The reaction of the press and the left to her shows me they are scared to death of her.  The reaction of the RINOs tells the same story.  Sarah is one of us.  She believes in the things we believe in.  She doesn't buy into the global warming parc, she understands how to achieve true energy independence and she understands that will be a good thing for the economy.  She also knows a helluva lot more about national security than anyone else at the state level and probably more than jokin joe did as a senator simply because the governor of Alaska, whoever it is, is in the loop when it comes to our national security.  To her credit she never brought that up because people with that kind of clearance are not suppose to bring it up unlike a certain jokin gird-your-loins Joe.

Screw what the press and the left says.  If she wants this and can get her message out and lead, she'll bitch-slap that Marxist right out of the White House in 4 years.  I think The One's condescending arrogance is going wear thin in the next year.  I think 10-15% of the 52 had no idea what they were voting for except the black guy that wasn't a republican.  Reality is a bitch and they are not going to like this new age reality.  Four years from now they'll understand what voting for change really means.

97

Do you think she could beat a national-level Democratic candidate and get elected President of the United States by the current electorate?

I didn't think so. I don't, either.

Name someone who can.

98

Holy cow.

I'm having palpatations just from reading the membership list for the Alfalfa Club. J-H-C! How in the world does one stand out in that room?

Do you think they stand around and wonder how in the hell they wound up in such a place?

99 I can't, buzzion. Neither can you.

My point stands.

100 Oh, she'll stand out as the hottest thing in a room full of, let me guess, MEN!  What a smart woman she is.

101 Everyone needs to calm down.  This PAC doesn't mean that Palin is running - or will run for Prez.  No doubt she's thinking about it - would like to but ...

THE REAL VALUE OF THIS PAC - is that ... by donating to it ... you will send a message to the Republicans about what direction you want the Republican party to move.  Conservatives need to regain this party from the likes of Schwarzerneggar, McCain, and Snowe.  By moving $$ into Sarah's pac - you will empower her to make the agenda - or at least get these lamentatious lard asses moving in the right direction.

Give to Sarah's PAC - and only Sarah's PAC - and when the Republican party calls for cash - tell them to get Sarah's endorsement and you'll consider it.

It's the money that talks folks.  Tells these RINO's to STFU now.

102 Maybe you're just trying to expand the thread, railwriter, but exactly what is your objection to her. That some stupid people bought the Tina Fey hatchet job of her, based on Couric and Gibson's own edited transcript of her interviews. That she wouldn't answer Couric's condescending questions about her reading habits. Is it a policy issue, that's she's not an immigration hawk, or her stand on the bailout (she reluctantly went along with it) The fact that she's pro-gun, pro-life, pro-war on terror, pro-drilling, pro-tax cuts are good enough for me, what say you. There's
a reason why she drew such large crowds where ever she went, and certainly put Chambliss over the top in the runoff; which might not of happened if some people
had not decided to sulk, because they didn't like the top of the ticket.

103
Do you think she could beat a national-level Democratic candidate and get elected President of the United States by the current electorate?

Yes, I do. With me (and a few of the more savvy, clever AoS commenters) running her campaign, absolutely.

With a few hundred million $$ for a media campaign, I could crush the Left. So could most of you.

104 99 I can't, buzzion. Neither can you.

My point stands.

Posted by: railwriter

You mean your idiotic point?  You're declaring her done because of it.  But you can't think of anyone else.  How do you know she won't be viable as a national level candidate in 2 years or 4 years?  Just because she doesn't inspire you to believe she's done huh?  Railwriter doesn't think she can win in the future based on the present so no point in trying.  The Decider has spoken.

105 The Press chooses not at all. She needs press, they don't need her. Your post presupposes that she's operating from a position of authority; she's not.


Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
The Press fell over itself trying to get to her. They will do anything in their power to get her in front of a camera, one because, unlike Algore the human truss, palin brings in viewers, and two, they want to try and tear her down. Oprah was all about not talking to her, until the election was over...why have her on after all the fireworks.when she could have had her during the big run up to the general election and all that crap...because people tune into talk radio, conservative radio, and they tune into conservative television.
Libs or not, ultimately the nutlickers at PMSNBC want ratings and ad money and that comes from viewers and high arbitronéneilson  ratings...Palin brings those in, as does Joe the maligned plumber. Algore is seldom seen in prime time because his numbers will suck ass, big time. People avoid him, period.

Like it or not, as long as she chooses to be careful with her interviews, and keeps from overexposing herself to the national audience, there will be more folks trying to talk to her than ignore her and let the next network scoop them and have her on their show. It is why the few interviews with Rush Limbaugh get such high ratings and the networks that hate him will cheerfully kiss his ass to get a ten minute segment. One segment of him or Palin will draw more viewers than the rest of an hour long show put together.
The shitheads at the alphabet soup networks know this. It is why they have people in Alaska aggravating and gyrating now, with nothing more important up there than the number of pregnant mooses. They need her for a story, she already has a job until she gets ready to run again, and they will be there every time she opens her front door.
Count on it. Reagan did much the same thing with the press when there was no talk radio, no friendly network like FauxNews, and there were only hostile print journo pricks around. And it worked fine. It will again.

106
railwriter isn't 100% wrong; if Sarah Palin runs for prez in 2012 with the same caliber of handlers as she had in 2008, she'll get skewered and probably take down the GOP with her.

Palin's got the chops, she's got the smarts, and she's got the right ideas. (She was excellent in the debate against Foreign Policy Expert Buffoon Biden). But she doesn't know how to handle* the media or articulate the more tacky issues, e.g., global warming, abortion, evolution, etc.

*manipulate, as opposed to allowing them to manipulate her.

107 101: I'm not sure WHAT message we'll send anyone: I mean, the site doesn't list a single policy position. On ANYTHING.

It would be nice if she actually posted some - don't ya think??

108
I wouldn't worry too much about overexposure. The first thing I would do is have Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber, and some other Conservatives travel across the country and hold some town meetings with real people. It's a great way to articulate the positions of the GOP while addressing the concerns of real Americans.

And the put the vids on Youtube and just like that you have a cheap media informercial.

109

101: I'm not sure WHAT message we'll send anyone: I mean, the site doesn't list a single policy position. On ANYTHING.

It would be nice if she actually posted some - don't ya think??

=======================================

Haven't you ever heard of a "teaser".  Makes you want more, makes you want to check back and see what's happening or what might happen.

110

You wait, it won't be long and she will be on the cover of "Good Housekeeping" and "Redbook". 

111 Buzzion: I was talking about Sarah Palin. You'd prefer not to talk about her; you'd prefer to invalidate my observations by changing the subject and challenging me to speculate about other off-topic candidates. It's an illogical, unnecessarily defensive position to take. It's not a winner.

Sandman: We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think the press has anything more than a snide, dismissive interest in her, and will continue to belittle her if they pay any attention to her at all. Name one story of a major network that was turned down. Name one that's tried to get her. Her last appearance wasn't a Nixonian "no more Dick to kick around;" it was a laundry-list of grievance that made her look...well, not presidential.

I like Sarah Palin. But I don't allow my support for her positions to blind me to the fact that she's not a contender. Everyone has a role; her role is to pitch in. She doesn't have to be the honcho to be a big help.

112 Can I just say it, since nobody else has?!


FUCK YEAH!


This thread needed more profanity....Oh yeah, and Sarah rocks.

113 106
railwriter isn't 100% wrong; if Sarah Palin runs for prez in 2012 with the same caliber of handlers as she had in 2008, she'll get skewered and probably take down the GOP with her.

Palin's got the chops, she's got the smarts, and she's got the right ideas. (She was excellent in the debate against Foreign Policy Expert Buffoon Biden). But she doesn't know how to handle* the media or articulate the more tacky issues, e.g., global warming, abortion, evolution, etc.

*manipulate, as opposed to allowing them to manipulate her.

All true, if she were stupid enough to run a shitty campaign like Mcqueeg did, run by the shitty staffers McQueeg chose, and in the god-awful stiff way that McQueeg ran his sorry ass campaign. But that obviously is not the way she does her own campaigning or she would not have had the level of success and notoriety she already enjoys.
Remember: McQueeg came to Alaska to get her, she did not go about seeking him. He needed a conservative voice to have any chance, however slim. She needs none of the crap McQueeg or his handlers bring to the table. And the fact that the McQueeg camp did such a shitty job of handling her and stifling anything she had to offer was apparent in her interviews, which the campaign set up and oversaw, the public appearances in that first month, and the way McQueeg clearly feared being overshadowed and marginalized by the rising star of his number two candidate.
As for knowing how to handle the media, the campaign made damn sure to get her exposed to the MSM in such a way as to marginalize her assets to the campaign and keep old McQueeg at the top of the ticket. Even if it cost them the contest and the nation a four year run into the depths of the Old Soviet System.

I bet you money the same sons of bitches who screwed her over for McQueeg try to get into her camp if she runs for national office. If they are turned away, you can look for some Tell All Bullshit to come from them, about her.

It happened at the end of the campaign and not one SOB in the McQueeg camp defended her, nor took the time to set the record straight, including King Fuckbucket Hisownself, McQueeg.

The sooner she does her own campaigning, and puts McQueeg in her rear view mirror, the sooner she can get to the business of reacquainting this dumb ass country with Reagan Conservatism, and put GW Bush, his daddy, Gerald Ford, McQueeg and all the sorry ass RINOS into the dust bin of history.
Where they all belong.

She can win, but she has got to separate herself and what she does from those assholes and  Washington Moderates inside the Beltway. They are tainted, too close to their enemies to know who is a friend and who is a foe. Helsinki Syndrom politics. She avoids that crap and she has a good shot to do something big on the national stage.
Time will tell, but clearly she has bigger plans as of right now.
That is good enough for me, for now.

114 Plus, she is just hawt...

115

Not sure if Palin can recover enough to withstand the onslaught from the media should she run in 2012 but I do think she has a decent chance to become a galvanizing force for the Republicans in the next couple elections.

Before she does anything though on a national level I really feel she needs to have an image of a successful governor. I feel she's probably going to need an approval rating of around 70% by 2010 or win her next election (whatever she runs for) with at least 60% of the vote to vindicate her blunders, both real and media induced from this past election to really seem like a potent figure.

Fortunate for her, I can't see the national media being able to harp on her too much. As influential as they are, even they only have so many resources and I think those resources are devoted first to Obama's glorification and then milking the BDS for all it's worth. That should leave her under the radar to a fair extent except for the media up her way, which while a challenge, is one that she should be able to handle without too much help assuming she sticks to her convictions.

Sarah sticking to a Republican version of Republican governorship these next two years (and I hate to say it, but the family has to behave as well) probably won't be enough by itself to override entirely what the media has done to her but I like to think it'd get her an easily (re)-election, increase her influence as a conservative model and begin to sway people outside of the Republican base.

Or at I can wish.

116 With a few hundred million $$ for a media campaign, I could crush the Left. So could most of you.

Posted by: Darling

with a few thousand dollars of ammo i could.. ah never mind... but i have a big jeep i could crush them for free.. just saying.

117 I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that illegal immigration isn't all that high on Alaska's list of priorities.

Not according to ABC News.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6462552

Carlos Rico, Mexico's undersecretary for North American Affairs, says that Mexicans are hot-footing it to red states Idaho, Alaska, North Carolina* and Georgia. I''m sure the Alaska Permanent Fund is a big incentive.

118 Slightly off topic..

 a blog I help out on received a mention in the New York Times..

conservatives4palin.com

119 Ronald Reagan's family didn't behave themselves.  Ron, the ballet dancer, and Patti, the father-hater....They celebrated their separation from their Dad, until they got older, like all of us and realized that the "old man" wasn't as bad as I thought.

120

The story has hit MSNBC, and if the comments are any indication she still has her fan club.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Scroll down to Norah O'Donnell's column.

121 Railwriter, has become adept at avoiding the question. Buzzion didn't mention another candidate, just your dismissive take on her, based on the aftermath of a brutal campaign. Unlike Nixon, who came from similar modest background, she doesn't display a chip on her shoulder. In fact, sometimes I think she's a little too gracious and understanding. The Ziegler interview as part of a documentary, an art form that Morgan Spurlock and Michael Moore, have done the best to tarnish; raised some of these points, and she did show some righteous anger for once. She has been otherwise been focused on the tough but not insurmountable task ahead for her state, and the cause of  much needed reform of the Party. She made those points in Miami, two months ago, yet the Party chose to ignore them, on the bailout; they chose a lackluster spokesman for the Governor's instead. This was partly obscured by the paparazzi pics while she was relaxing at the  hotel she was staying. Then the next gaffe, I suppose was the whole turkey incident, I guess she should have just ignored the basic reality there. Then came the pivotal Chambliss runoff race, where she certainly put everything over
the top.  When she proved her worth, they resurrected the old clothes and makeup story,  despite the fact that no one ever spotted her at any of the sites
mentioned therein. When they burned her church down, she showed remarkable understanding and compassion, speaking of what is called for 'a servant's heart' not desire for money and power. Now after she put forth a very fiscally stringent
budget, the shrews at the New Majority, bring up the clothes story again, this time pointing to the RNC's mishandling. We know what her stands on most of the key issues are, she's moving ahead on some health care initiatives and on getting the AGIA pipeline on course. In light of the last story, maybe she should
pick up some Spanish lessons, that she maybe needing when campaigning in the SouthWest and Florida some years from now. The press who deified Obama, that's sadly not an exaggeration, will rarely cut her an even break, it would disabuse their own self created illusions about her. Tina Fey's little scam, will soon run dry, and Katie Couric, well her performance, probably keeps Sumner Redstone, up at night, wondering about the future viability of Viacom.

122

I am all for Sarah, and believe in what I've heard so far. 

She won me over when she ran for Mayor and reduced the cost of government in her small town.  An accomplishment.  Can anyone say the same of McCain or Obama?  Didn't think so.

Same at the state level ... she took on a crooked Republican crowd and cleaned house ... Has Obama EVER tried to clean up anything.  That fucker has nominated everyone with objectionable problems.  Has he even policed his friends to see if they are decent human beings?  ... not hardly.

Sarah seems to be a kind human being, and I think that's a great qualification far far beyond the scope of the current Pres.  He is THE president, but he's not mine. 

123

And lets talk about guts.  If she's gone out being a crew on her husband's fishing boat in Alaska waters, she's got more guts than Obama ever dreamed of. 

She's a great mom, and has a ton of strength.  Her son is off in Iraq somewhere, and there's a special blessing to those that have enough strength to love and support those sons that answer the call of this country's great military.  The sons are blessed with the knowledge of their own immortality... mom's not so much, which is why they are sometimes even braver than the soldiers heading into harms way.

God bless her and her family, and best of luck in the coming campaigns, whatever they may be.  She can certainly count on my help.

124 I just signed up. Money will follow depending on what happens. But it appears to me that what she says on her site, albeit still lacking specific positions; would work as well if not better in a political movement outside the Republican party than within it. The PAC keeps her visible. It provides a rallying point for Conservatives, and if the Vichy Republicans do continue to marginalize her and us; it can help make us a bloc that has some clout wherever we go.

And I do believe that we will be going somewhere besides the collaborationist Republicans. I have already figured out what to say when I next get a fundraising call from the Republican National Committee. I will add the point about Sarah. And if they end up choosing another collaborationist as head of the RNC, I will add a few choice expletives.

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125 Cross-posted comment:

I will again say that, while I’m not sure how we get there, a Romney-Palin ticket would be killer, with each side bolstering the other’s perceived weaknesses. I fear that they would not run together; certainly Mitt Romney would not take the VP position, in any case I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A KILLER TICKET! Those who are scared by Palin are reassured by Romney, and vice-versa.

126 (we have to assume that by 2012, the failure of Obama will be clear, somewhat a la Carter.) Romney-Palin: no ticket is close to perfect, but it would just WORK.

127

Jindal is a Creationist moonbat, and has no business running for President

So the Creation issue is the only reason you don't support him?

128 I'm very interested in donating, but I'm curious: Will my money go toward forcing teen mothers to give birth? I'd really like that! Thanks.

129 First donation complete. I expect it to be one of many.

Squiyote: "Will my money go toward forcing teen mothers to give birth? I'd really like that! Thanks."

Yes. At the point of a gun, too. So, you're clear. Empty your pockets early.

130 If it is true that Ms. Palin is unworthy of our support b/c she has been "Quayled" then any Republican candidate except John McCain is unworthy of our support. Since this is ridiculous, the premise does not hold. ANY Republican candidate who has any chance of "being another Reagan" is going to be the target of every possible attack by the drive-bys. Thus, we have to find a way to neutralize the propaganda that will be directed against any movement Conservative running for national office.

We should keep in mind that where Sarah Palin is concerned the only difference between a liberal commentator and a conservative commentator is whether they stick the knives in her front or in her back.

131 And of course, Eeyorepundit over at HotAir is using this as just one more opportunity to fly-speck Palin anytime he can.

What kind of a fuckin' douchenozzle do you have to be to troll your own site.

SarahCuda 2012!

132 She's a TURD!

133 >>Railwriter, has become adept at avoiding the question. Buzzion didn't mention another candidate, just your dismissive take on her, based on the aftermath of a brutal campaign.<<

You're not paying attention. Or you're not reading closely enough. Or something. Whatever the case, you're wrong. He implied that there was a correlation between my inability to name a better candidate and her electability/desirability as a candidate. There isn't.

The rest of your post says absolutely nothing worthwhile about her electability, which is the point I've been making...a point you've ignored.

I've made my point; harping on it is only wasting keystrokes. She's not going to get elected President, those of you who think she is are wrong, and none of that means she can't play a helpful role. Sermon over.

134 @ Darling, good point.  Let's remember those were McCain's handlers this last time around, not hers.  The same crazy traitorous wench that was slobbering all over Obama last week

135 She's not going to get elected President.

Wasn't long ago that everyone said Hillary Clinton was definitely going to defeat Rudy Giuliani for the Presidency yet look how that turned out;  at this point I won't rely on absolutes.

I have no idea whether or not she is not going to get elected however I do know she has rare talent for attracting a large audience and right now Conservatives need someone who can rally the troops and inspire us to fight on; there are terrific potential candidates such as Jindal, Romney,  yet they don't seem to be able to inspire the action necessary to building a winning campaign.

It could very well be she ends up as a 'cult of personality' candidate however she isn't spending her time on her personality but on her leadership skills and over the next couple years we will find out which leaders are able to survive the long dark winter we are about to face and which ones fail.

Until then what I know is that she is taking direct action to inspire Conservatives to stay involved and encouraged; right now, other than Rush Limbaugh there is no one out there who is taking up that charge.

Right now Conservatives don't need an absolute candidate for 2012, we need leaders who can inspire us to survive the next four years and out of that leadership we will have our candidate.

If Jindal began his own PAC then perhaps he would inspire Conservatives however he has not taken this action and simply being a successful Republican elected in a heavily corrupt Democrat state isn't going to be enough. Take a look at what happened to Rudy  he was America's mayor of the most populated city in the union yet he failed to inspire the troops and didn't even make it past Iowa. 

I have no idea who will be the 2012 candidate however I am not going to thrash and burn anyone who takes action to keep the Conservative movement engaged; I will not kill off our own potential leaders particularily when the Left will do that anyway.

136 one other observation, the Hot Air EeyorePundit reminds me of a petulant, snotty brat who enjoys sticking  dynamite up the ass of innocent lambs just to get his kicks; for me EeyorePundit one of the most annoying bloggers on the right, so self-righteous, judgemental and arrogant that I purposefully avoid anything posted by him.  I read Ed's stuff however that other blogger sucks rotten eggs.

He used to be funny then he filled himself full obnoxious shit.

137 I'll register there if I'm guaranteed bikini or lingerie photos, and new ones each month.

138

This new PAC is awesome! Everybody should donate lots of money.

 

And candy, too.

139 This is only the first step. After two consecutive terms as the first female President, with a %83 approval rating, America will decide that we can't do without Sarah. The Constitution will be amended to elevate Sarah to monarch status. That's right motherfuckers. Her Majesty Queen Sarah the Benevolent Conservative I, of these United States of America. Commander in Chief, U.S. Armed Forces and Head of State. The position of President will be more like a Prime Minister.

 I am going to start recruiting for the Royal Guard Regiment tomorrow. If you dare to ask how much the royal guard uniforms cost and who paid for them, off with your heads!

Matthews, Olbermann, Gibson and Couric will be excellent reasons to re-open Club Gitmo for media traitor jackals. Their lamentations will make a terrific patriotic reality show on FOX every Tuesday night at 8:00pm EST.

The planning has begun also for the next class of Super Carriers for the Navy, the Trig class, to be launched with the comissioning of the U.S.S. Trig Palin. This will be the largest ship ever built, with 6 nuclear reactors, 8 electro-magnetic catapults, and 250 combat aircraft. Fuck with that, beotches. Please.

140 So railwriter, which McCain staffer are you then?

The next party pick to run has one simple criteria:

Does the left absolutely fucking despise the pick?

Then that's who you fucking nominate.

See how easy that was?

141 Railwriter, your's is a reasonable view to hold, but I think it's presumptuous and early. The current recession is a transformative political event, it will make or break Obama, and in any event will completely drive everything about 2012. Sure, Palin's polling negative's are high...now, but extrapolating from them that Palin's chances for turning them around are equal to zero seems fairly wrong. One reason: Sarah Palin is probably the Republican nominee for President were a nominating election held today. Second, insofar as Palin is unelectable you should also acknowledge that no Republican is electable given the current polling. Third, as a candidate, Palin's fundamental's don't support a zero chance analysis. I saw enough film of Palin's rally performances and in interviews outside of the Gibson/Couric duo that I feel quite secure in believing that those interviews are not accurate reflection of Palin's true political talent and capacity to survive the nominating process.

142 Darling, if you're still around, that's a GREAT idea you had @108. Maybe you really should run her campaign.

143

The Republican party needs leadership and reformation. She is there best bet. I will certainly give to her PAC over the RNC at this point.

The RNC needs someone with guts to jerk a knot in the party light weights. Get them in line or force the to move on over to the Democratic party.

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But the Liberal response to Palin is not really anger.  It is fear.  They fear her because she can steal their thunder.  That fact gives her tremendous power.  That power is doubled if applied carefully because she can both steal their thunder AND make them overreact.

If she becomes a presidential candidate, stand by for the most vicious policital actions since Lenin's liquidations.  The Liberal focus will be incredibly intense, especially if she is running against Mrs. Clinton* or JFK's daughter Caroline*.  I wonder how Ron Paul would fare in that situation?  I always liked hypergolic reactions...

* End Note: It is mandatory that we acquiesce to the Liberal dogma that women need help to attain equality when we refer to or discuss Liberal female candidates.  After all it would not be fair to them to expect them to to measure up to a standard they cannot, by their own admitted premises, be expected to reach.  So they should always be referred to as adjuncts to the men in their lives who are the "true" source of their political stature.

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