Purge: NYT Fires (Well, Fails to Renew the Contract of) Bill Kristol; Claim is That He Made Four Errors in Columns; Real Beef Appears to be Disloyalty

Seems like a good time for NRO to can Kathleen Parker.

Tough as this was for Kristol’s promoters, he might still have survived as a columnist had it not been for an attitude of casual and reflexive disloyalty he publicly displayed towards The Times itself. A good example came in an appearance with Jon Stewart on The Daily Show on October 30. Here’s the way Editor and Publisher described it:
“Appearing once again on The Daily Show, Bill Kristol, Jon Stewart's favorite whipping boy (‘Bill Kristol, aren't you ever right?’), on Thursday night defended the McCain-Palin ticket, at one point informing the show's host that he was getting his news from suspect sources. ‘You're reading The New York Times too much,’ he declared. ‘Bill, you WORK for The New York Times!’ Stewart pointed out.”
That, apparently, was the last straw for the Gray Lady.

As Newsbusters notes, barely a Paul Krugman column goes by without a large error -- and some of these are even noted by the Times' Ombudsman.

Although David Brooks seems to be center-left at this point, he began his stint at the Times as a conservative, or at least Rockefeller Republican who supported Reaganite/Kempian economics. But as soon as he joined, he could offer but nothing but praise for the Times -- greatest newspaper in the world, they really try to keep bias out of their stories, etc.

So that would seem to be an absolute rule at the Times: One can never, ever criticize the paper and expect to keep one's job.

I give Kristol props for never selling out like that. Sure, he took the Times gig, but he never seemed all that impressed with it or considered it all that precious. Unlike Brooks, who lives for it.

Thanks to CJ.

Related: Chris Matthews, Eli "Chiseled Pecs" Saslow named as chief media slobberers in Bernard Goldberg's new book.

Posted by: Ace at 02:46 PM

Comments

1 Impartiality from the media? The hell you say!

Posted by: Drumwaster at January 26, 2009 02:48 PM (Ymor3)

2 "Bill Kristol is an idiot." -- Matt Damon

Posted by: Don C. at January 26, 2009 02:50 PM (zwb1g)

3 Bill Kristol has Obama fever....

Posted by: free at January 26, 2009 02:51 PM (cFwGO)

4 Matt Damon!!!!!!

Posted by: Matt Damon at January 26, 2009 02:53 PM (fazYB)

5 Leftward HO!

Posted by: DG at January 26, 2009 02:54 PM (qPu42)

6 FLASH: Bankrupt Company Lets Go Employee

"At least I know my last paycheck won't bounce," said Kristol.

Posted by: FudgeReport at January 26, 2009 02:55 PM (AQj/2)

7 NYT - good for starting fires in my woodstove. My garden loves the CO2. All donations accepted.

Posted by: Jimmy at January 26, 2009 02:58 PM (/Ft4q)

8 Although I think Kristol is indicative of the problems within the party right now (why go work for a paper, thus giving it credibility, that is an anti-american pinko shit rag?) I give him props for taking back his nuts a going home.

Posted by: Toad at January 26, 2009 03:00 PM (kOQDM)

9 An antidiscrimination or wrongful termination lawsuit would be amusing.

Posted by: Al at January 26, 2009 03:02 PM (CyBUS)

If the Times actually fired people for factual errors they building would be empty. Seriously, they have Bob Herbert and Frank Rich on the payroll.

Posted by: JWF at January 26, 2009 03:03 PM (1l37M)

11 Dissing your company in public is considered grounds for firing in most firms. ‘You're reading The New York Times too much.’ Destroying the brand name of your employer is not good for your career. Now I will gladly pee on the NYT's building when its leading tennet goes to a well deserved grave, but on this one they have a point.

Posted by: oLD gUY at January 26, 2009 03:04 PM (n1yDn)

12 Isn't Bill Kristol the winner here? He will no longer be associated with a despicable, treasonous leftwing rag.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at January 26, 2009 03:04 PM (6NaNg)

13 Seriously, if he was going to criticize a left wing rag he should have said WaPo.
He did work for the NYT, that's just dumb. Even dumber when you know they are looking to cut costs.

Posted by: Rocks at January 26, 2009 03:07 PM (Q1lie)

14 So that would seem to be an absolute rule at the Times: One can never, ever criticize the paper and expect to keep one's job.

That's right. Look what happened to my predecessor Daniel Okrent.

Posted by: Clark Hoyt at January 26, 2009 03:08 PM (FO+YO)

15 I distrust any publication that doesn't name Olberman as slobberingest sycophant.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 26, 2009 03:08 PM (DVVXZ)

16 Of course Bill Kristol is the winner.

He already noted what the NYT was before he was 'fired', and the NYT has already changed their tune from fired to 'we agreed to end the position mutually'.

You can't be an honest dissented at the NYT. Period. Bill got to leave the sinking ship.

Posted by: Boogersnax at January 26, 2009 03:11 PM (8jYMc)

17 The NY times is worried about fact-checking? Isn't this the same paper that hired some shit bird that made up his own stories? Yeah this rag has high journalistic standards.

Posted by: RedRiverTed at January 26, 2009 03:12 PM (Z7fcC)

18 @ 2 "Bill Kristol is an idiot." -- Matt Damon

And I went to Harvard for six months. So, I should know everything about everything

Posted by: Matt Damon at January 26, 2009 03:13 PM (XIXhw)

19 I'm curious as to what the four errors were and if they were really errors.

Posted by: polynikes at January 26, 2009 03:13 PM (m2CN7)

20 Seriously, if he was going to criticize a left wing rag he should have said WaPo.

Wouldn't have had the same impact. Believe it or not, the WaPo is not a big a tool as the NYT.

The WaPo is still a serious newspaper, albeit liberal. The NYT has degenerated to the point where now it's just the Village Voice with a larger budget. Pretty soon, they'll be reduced to selling tranny escort ads to stay in business.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 26, 2009 03:13 PM (FO+YO)

21 I also agree that you can't diss your employer like Kristol did and not expect to be fired or suspended.

Posted by: polynikes at January 26, 2009 03:15 PM (m2CN7)

22 Honest dissenter?

Kristol suggested that John Stewart was misinformed because he was reading the New York Times. He wasn't kidding either. He was flummoxed by Stewart's retort. Basically, Bill Kristol told viewers of the Daily Show that his employer's publication is not worth reading.

That is not honest dissent. That is forgetting where your bread is buttered. Stupid shit that.

Posted by: seattle slough at January 26, 2009 03:16 PM (H5l9d)

23 Looks like Kristol is the new whipping boy of the loony left.

You wanna know the funny thing? Damon is gaga over "A People's History of the United States" but in the same breath has nothing bud disdain for "the people" like Sarah Palin (and presumably Joe the Plumber).

Well, I guess they like "the people" as long as they know their place. You know, beneath Harvard dropouts like Damon.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2009 03:17 PM (T0NGe)

24 Look, Greg Mitchell in the Huff Po, pointed out the one unpardonable sin, he put it this way "after meeting Gov. Sarah Palin, on an Alaska cruise, he promoted her for VP" and unlike Allah, to cite one example, didn't diss her afterwards. That is one thing you can't do at the Times, support a pro-life, pro troops, conservative. Many other misdemeanors, like Dowd editing quotes, Krugman acting like chicken Little,
but that you can't do.

Posted by: narciso at January 26, 2009 03:18 PM (9EG7Z)

25 Basically, Bill Kristol told viewers of the Daily Show that his employer's publication is not worth reading.

So, he was fired for telling the truth.

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2009 03:20 PM (MMC8r)

26 Bill Kristol didn't really get fired. I just made that one up, y'all!

Posted by: Jayson Blair at January 26, 2009 03:22 PM (UMwMT)

27 All newspapers should dump their regular, contracted columnists and pick up cheap and easily rotated internet bloggers and columnists instead. The news business is using and old, boom era business model in a time when their industry is collapsing and they've got to change or die.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 26, 2009 03:23 PM (PQY7w)

28 Matt Damon!

Posted by: Sharkman at January 26, 2009 03:23 PM (69J41)

29 25 Basically, Bill Kristol told viewers of the Daily Show that his employer's publication is not worth reading.

So, he was fired for telling the truth.

I didn't even know it was a secret.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 26, 2009 03:23 PM (DVVXZ)

30 You know, if a GM engineer came out and said in 1990 'Ya know... our cars suck, but I work here and am going to do what I can to improve us', that would not have been a fireable offense.

Kristol was saying 'yeah, the NYT is a liberal slime rag that isn't trying to inform or provide good debate, but I'm a conservative, so I will keep making my argument.'

He told a truth. Yeah, that made the NYT look like a bad news source, but anyone who isn't crazy already knew it. I think it made the NYTs look good to employ someone who was willing to admit the problem. Oh... until they fired him, that is.

Besides, just because they were entitled to fire him, doesn't mean they aren't worse off for it. they know he's right.

Posted by: Boogersnax at January 26, 2009 03:24 PM (8jYMc)

31 Chicago Tribune columnists on the Tribune's own editorial board regularly critique the content of the paper.

I have a hard time believing this is the reason Kristol wasn't renewed.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at January 26, 2009 03:24 PM (AHrTm)

32 Well! It looks like even soulless Knee-pad RINOs have limits. I'm glad he finally *just said no to [licking]crack*!

Posted by: J David at January 26, 2009 03:25 PM (nx6c+)

33 Hey, the Times has to have their standards.

Posted by: Walter Duranty at January 26, 2009 03:25 PM (MMC8r)

34 Personally, I would be glad they let me down onto one of the first lifeboats. The SS Commie Pinch is about to sink into the Hudson.

Posted by: Fresh Air at January 26, 2009 03:27 PM (dlX/M)

35 I know there are times when the NYT criticized firms for firing employees for speaking out against their employer. I can't wait until someone digs up all the examples of them being a hypocrite over this.

The real problem here is that he is a conservative that made something liberal look bad. I can't believe they even tried to go down the road of factual errors. Kristol can so open a can of whoop ass lawsuit against them to expose how many journalists had more errors than him and kept their jobs.

Posted by: David at January 26, 2009 03:30 PM (NgoAe)

36 An actor speaking without a script is an actor speaking without a brain.

Posted by: CUS at January 26, 2009 03:30 PM (wOGfT)

There is a lot of value to the NYT. Its is usually very thick, with many trees being sacrificed to print the bullshit they are selling..The great part for me is I have a flock of birds, and I often need paper for the bottom of the aviary.

It brings me great job to see my birds shit on Paul Krugman..

Posted by: ford at January 26, 2009 03:32 PM (Ki7fm)

38 If Kristol really thought the NYT was not worth reading, he probably shouldn't have worked for them.

Also, as one of the content providers for that publication, he might have seen the irony in disparaging it.

Posted by: seattle slough at January 26, 2009 03:33 PM (H5l9d)

39 An actor speaking ~~without a script~~ is an actor speaking without a brain.

FTFY

Posted by: Fresh Air at January 26, 2009 03:33 PM (dlX/M)

bailout pitch #5445

The NYT is too big to fail.

Posted by: ford at January 26, 2009 03:33 PM (Ki7fm)

41 Speaking Truth to Power is a firing offense.

NYTimes, die faster please.

Posted by: toby928 at January 26, 2009 03:34 PM (PD1tk)

42 As usual, slough misses the point. Here it is again:

A give-away came in the form of four corrections the newspaper was forced to run over factual mistakes in the columns, creating an impression that they were rushed out without due diligence or attention to factual claims.

The point is, they claim that Kristol got fired for sloppy writing, but the fact is, NYT columnists make factual errors all the time. 4 corrections? Hell, Krugman can make 4 factual errors in a single column and it's apparently OK with the editors. But when Kristol does it, it's a firing offense.

That's what we're calling bullshit on.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 26, 2009 03:36 PM (FO+YO)

43 Parker is a c-word.

Posted by: Sebastian B. O. Bunionstow IV. at January 26, 2009 03:41 PM (NLtVk)

44 It sounds like the feelings were mutual and both were well within their rights. Why is this news?

Posted by: t-bird at January 26, 2009 03:43 PM (FcR7P)

45 When did the NY Times start worrying about printing errors?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 26, 2009 03:45 PM (1Jaio)

Now Kristol can call conservatives a bunch of yahoos from the pages of the WaPo. Meh.

Posted by: flenser at January 26, 2009 03:45 PM (etaib)

47 It sounds like the feelings were mutual and both were well within their rights. Why is this news?

Because the NYT complaining about factual accuracy is like Al Capone bemoaning the Chicago crime rate.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 26, 2009 03:46 PM (FO+YO)

48 Can Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noonan, Heather MacDonald, Nicole Wallace and all the other hags out there who ought to be troubling MacBeth.

Posted by: Scipio at January 26, 2009 03:48 PM (m2RwJ)

49 I'm no fan of Kristol's but I hope he kicks Damon's ass.

Posted by: Iblis at January 26, 2009 03:49 PM (9221z)

50 Hannity interview with Goldberg in a few minutes...wabc.com

Posted by: sickinmass at January 26, 2009 03:52 PM (/i4dU)

51 That's funny--when we dissed our employer, the Times insisted that it shouldn't cost us our jobs.

Posted by: Tom Tamm and Valerie Plame at January 26, 2009 03:54 PM (18+z4)

Bill Kristol has always been more of an obstruction to conservatives and conservativism than he has been a help.

Besides, he is nothing but yet another example of elitist nepotism. He would never have gotten anywhere without dad Irving and mom Gertrude Himmelfarb.

Posted by: Bender at January 26, 2009 03:56 PM (pLTLS)

53 The New York Times: killing the planet, one tree at a time.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 26, 2009 03:57 PM (InMdt)

54 There's only room for one editorialist on the front page of the Times!

Posted by: Pinch Loafburger at January 26, 2009 03:57 PM (18+z4)

Damon's one of those guys who reads a book and believes he has been magically transformed into the smartest guy in the universe.

Yup. He's that guy. He probably dropped out right after reading it. What a fucking cliché.

Posted by: Eleven at January 26, 2009 03:57 PM (7DB+a)

56 Kristol and Barnes came out early and often for John McCain during the Primary. In fact, I would go so far as to say they pushed him on us every day on FNC.

"From those wonderful folks who brought you Pearl Harbor", comes to mind. (Title of a book about advertising and a joke slogan for Japanese products).

Errors in fact occur to everyone and should be forgiven if unintentional, but errors in judgment of this sort, linger. There is not one person responsible for John McCain, but if you had to name just one name, it would be Bill Kristol.

I cannot see or hear him now without thinking: "From those wonderful folks that brought you John McCain." Still defending McLame he was, so this only goes a short way toward redemption.

Posted by: Robert at January 26, 2009 04:05 PM (VotgB)

57 Can Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noonan, Heather MacDonald, Nicole Wallace and all the other hags out there who ought to be troubling MacBeth.

Ach, laddie, MacBeth only had to contend with three witches.

Posted by: Connor Macleod of Clan Macleod at January 26, 2009 04:06 PM (1hM1d)

Kristol was within his rights because the Times creates news. No, not just inventing it--although they do that, too. For example, by publishing top-secret info helpful to terrorists, they are actors in the news, not simply observers.

Maureen--call me!

Posted by: Thurston Howell Raines III at January 26, 2009 04:07 PM (18+z4)

59 Damon's one of those guys who reads a book and believes he has been magically transformed into the smartest guy in the universe.

Yup. He's that guy.

Yes, I am. And as Jason Bourne, I'm going to kick the every lovin' crap out of you.

Posted by: Jason Bourne at January 26, 2009 04:09 PM (1hM1d)

Newsbusters sourced this story out of Scott Horton story in The Daily Beast.

Scott Fucking Horton, a walking talking conflict of interest if there ever was one. He's the mook flogging the Karl Rove/Don Siegelman conspiracy to Congress, 60 Minutes, NBC and anybody else who will listen while writing about it on Harpers as if he was independent of the goings on.

Scott Fucking Horton, one of the most dishonest lefties out there. He's almost always all innuendo and rumor instead of fact. A total lying fucking crapweasel.

Posted by: daleyrocks at January 26, 2009 04:12 PM (odYIP)

Did I say "Bill Kristol is an idiot!"? Sorry--I meant Crystal Gayle.

Posted by: Matt Damon at January 26, 2009 04:24 PM (18+z4)

Posted by: daleyrocks at January 26, 2009 04:12 PM (odYIP)

You're not worth the steam off of Scott Horton's shit.

Kristol is a smarmy fucking liar, good riddance. He was a propagandist for the Bush administration, and now that the Bush administration is gone, he has no purpose.

Posted by: icus at January 26, 2009 04:25 PM (Ozf6a)

63 you can actually see support for conservatism falling every time he opens his supercilious, never had an actual job involving working, mouth. why go on shows like Stewart to be made to look like an idiot?

Posted by: ed at January 26, 2009 04:28 PM (Urhve)

64 Kristol might well come to bless this day........especially when the NYT's paychecks start bouncing.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 26, 2009 04:37 PM (237hA)

He was a propagandist for the Bush administration, and now that the Bush administration is gone, he has no purpose.

Yes, icus, you fucking genius. The Times hired Kristol as a propagandist for the Bush Administration. It's so obvious now that you spell it out like that.

You're a huge fucking idiot.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 26, 2009 04:44 PM (rplL3)

icus - No one can see the steam off Scott Horton's piss since he sits down to pee, but nice try anyway. Can you produce any facts that's he's presented in his Rove/Siegelman vendetta? Why didn't Congressional investigators ask that ditzy bitch about her relationship to Rove when they had her under oath? I guess that would have shredded the whole conspiracy, wouldn't it.

Why don't Horton's sites take comments? Is it because he's afraid too many people would expose his blatant lies?

Posted by: daleyrocks at January 26, 2009 04:44 PM (odYIP)

67 Horton was also pushing the story that Eliot Spitzer hetting nabbed fucking hookers was a vast right wing conspiracy. The man is an absolute farking genius. Neocons convinced Eliot to go dip his balls and then framed him. You can't make this shit up. Sheer genius!

Posted by: daleyrocks at January 26, 2009 04:48 PM (odYIP)

68 In the error of Obama their whole paper is an error.

Posted by: tarpon at January 26, 2009 04:51 PM (7evkT)

69 Matt Damon was very convincing as a bi-sexual murderer in "Mr. Ripley". Very!

Posted by: Matt Damon at January 26, 2009 04:54 PM (18+z4)

Damon's one of those guys who reads a book and believes he has been magically transformed into the smartest guy in the universe.

Yup. He's that guy. He probably dropped out right after reading it. What a fucking cliché.

I like them apples.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 26, 2009 04:59 PM (5OVpL)

71 Pinch wanted a token conservative like Brooks whose job is to bash conservatives. I'm sure that Kathleen Parker is getting the collagen injections so that the Slimes will hire her for her Obama DSL's

Posted by: kbdabear at January 26, 2009 05:17 PM (miw86)

72 And as Jason Bourne, I'm going to kick the every lovin' crap out of you.

Just as soon as he can put a call in to the stuntmen that worked those movies...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 26, 2009 05:40 PM (InMdt)

73 Kristol's got the Weekly Standard. I'd say he's doing a-okay. Support him and get a subscription.

Posted by: TMQ at January 26, 2009 05:45 PM (aMu45)

74 does anyone think that the combined efforts of Brooks, Will, Parker, Noonan, Kristol, Barnes and any of their clones (wimpy looking non-ideological approval seekers) will put one vote in the column of Republicans. as we all know, their ideal candidate for this post partisan world got trounced and has returned to his roots of betraying Republicans and bad mouthing conservatives. who cares if they all get canned.

Posted by: ed at January 26, 2009 05:48 PM (Urhve)

75 Fired for 4 factual errors? Makes sense as this number is way below the Times' standard.

Posted by: Bald Ninja at January 26, 2009 05:55 PM (4pdbX)

I don't really give a fig about Kristol. He's smarmy and has the backbone of a chocolate eclair. He's not helping us; he's hurting us. Him and Fast Freddie Barnes. Big amnesty shills. Khuck Krackhammer too.

That being said, he's the latest victim of Barry's coronation. Beck left CNN and now Kristol is removed from the NYT. See a pattern? It's the media's way of saying that they don't have to kiss conservative ass anymore now that that evil motherfucker isn't in the White House anymore. Why pander to right wingers?

Posted by: jaleach at January 26, 2009 05:57 PM (gHrZU)

77 That being said, he's the latest victim of Barry's coronation. Beck left CNN and now Kristol is removed from the NYT.

Beck left CNN because Fox gave him a job away from the O-Borg collective. He's on at 5 PM Eastern too, which pushed Shep Obama out of that slot.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 26, 2009 06:14 PM (miw86)

WalrusRex, 29: this reminds me of an old Soviet joke --

A guy consumes a bit too much liquid courage, so he walks into the middle of Red Square and yells, "Brezhnev is an idiot!"

He immediately gets arrested and charged with:

(a) being drunk and disorderly;
(b) disturbing the peace;
(c) revealing a state secret.

Posted by: Stumbo at January 26, 2009 06:37 PM (z4es9)

79 Kathleen who?

Posted by: bill at January 26, 2009 07:29 PM (baH3z)

80 I don't watch tv, and I haven't read "The Weekly Standard" since about the time this past election cycle started kicking into high gear.

If Kristol was cheerleading for McCain, it's not because he had any love for John McCain. It's because McCain emerged as the front runner for the Republican Party.

Kristol is a fine writer, and a strong conservative. If some of you don't understand that, I don't know what to tell you.

Posted by: Burt TC at January 26, 2009 08:10 PM (sKauv)

81 Bill Kristol, like most of the established "conservatives" writing from inside the Beltway is as corrupted as a Chi-com party member. They all, inlcuding Kristol, Krauthammerroid, Barnes, C. Buckley, want invites to the social occasions and the parties and all the perks of being in the "In Crowd". But you necessarily have to be willing to stand outside the Corruption that those tings represent in order to remain and objective conservative. No one treated drug addicts better by becoming an addict themselves. Someon has to remain set apart, resolved and committed to the values that Reagan left and then everyone else left Reagan.
He is an okay writer but nothing special, and he, along with the others who had a little 'quiet dinner staring into Obama's dreamy eyes' the other week, has exchanged his real conservative values for access to the corrupting influences of the Beltway Lifestyle. Obama came there corrupted, people like Kristol and comany let it happen and never acknowledge their own fault in it.
Power corrupts and it must be treated as what it is: a necessary poison, and not something to be trotted after like a whore trots after crack.

Posted by: Enter sandman at January 26, 2009 08:19 PM (zxaA2)

82 I'm with Ace on this, to the extent the excuse given for 'canning' Kristol was that he was a tad Lite on his factoid checking is to be taken seriously.

Kristol's column was not only nowhere near the parts the Times claims to reserve for "news",

(There's lots of evidence that such claims are fluid, and not just Jason Blair and Judy Miller years ago either; Eric Lichtblau's recent reporting on the FISA court of review decision is impossible to defend as simply "factual", and was even factually (or "factually" I guess) wrong in places.)

it was actually ON the Opinion page of the section marked "Op-Ed" and "Opinions" on the paper version (I looked, but I didn't buy.) and the "OPINIONS" link at the on line version.

It doesn't matter how arguably or even actually wrong Kristol-Lite factoids were; the fact is that no part of any of his pieces was suggested to be taken as anything other than opinion.

I've read in several places that the Times signed up Kristol to a one-year deal, with both parties to revisit the commitment thereafter. It's not clear this was totally the Times decision not to renew; contracts are a two-way street, afterall - and if there's any grain in Ace's take that the Times was unhappy with the way Kristol was doing things, then his indication to the Times that, well, that's what I do, so there - that would be enough to lead the way to an amicable parting (I haven't seen any indication from either side that indicates the parting was at all ugly; so far it's seems, you know, at worst, like: ...meh.

I'm hoping the Times has some substitute in mind, because the idea behind the deal with Kristol was sound, in my opinion. As Ace points out, the idea that David Brooks somehow "represents the conservative and/or Republican" point of view is really lame. It would be more accurate to say that, on a given day, if the moon's in the right phase, maybe Brooks might pull his Republican party membership card out of his really, really, really thick wallet, and put it up for display next to support for tax cuts; but it's also very possible, and these days even probable, that even if he pulls out the card, it's just to use it to butter up the soft, mushy center of Republicanism for his next trick of pulling out his personally autographed picture of Obama.

Not having someone to reflect the rest of those who want to vote Republican is the same as leaving tens and tens of millions of Americans out of the equation, which is something even Obama at least says he doesn't want to do.

So if the Times doesn't come up with a replacement of some kind, does that mean its left of Obama? I'm having trouble seeing why not.

Posted by: Diderot's dog at January 26, 2009 09:09 PM (HYCNe)

83 Kristol is a faux-Republican and I hope Fox News follows the NYT's lead. The guy swooned when Obama bin Osama was elected and then tripped over his own schvantz in order to gain a dinner audience. No self-respecting Republican would do that.

Posted by: Mike Jefferson at January 26, 2009 10:21 PM (agEj7)

84 ~~Kristol~~Icus is a smarmy fucking liar, good riddance. He ~~was~~is a propagandist for the ~~Bush administration~~ Chronic Masturbators Society, and now that the ~~Bush~~Obama administration is ~~gone~~going to save the world, he has no purpose.

FIFY

Posted by: cheshirecat at January 26, 2009 11:03 PM (0t5bv)

85 I think we're missing the real reason Pinch gave Kristol his walking papers. It wasn't errors, disloyalty, or his politics, that's just their cover story. I'm thinking that they had to cut a high salary somewhere, and Kristol didn't really seem to care whether he was the one to go. They can't cut any of the Four Whores of the Obamalypse (MoDo, Krudman, Bitch, or Herbert) without fueling huge rumors that Pinch can't make his payment to El Préstamo de Tiburón

Posted by: kbdabear at January 26, 2009 11:41 PM (miw86)

86 Holeee shit... DD actually said something coherent. Even if it still filled up the entire screen...

Posted by: J. Wilde at January 26, 2009 11:46 PM (ucJiT)

87 Holeee shit... DD actually said something coherent. Even if it still filled up the entire screen...

It's all that HopeNChange skittle power...

Posted by: cheshirecat at January 26, 2009 11:47 PM (0t5bv)

fuck kristol, fuck that recycled piece of shit they call a newspaper and fuck the 52.

and for anyone here who actually thinks kristol is worth more to us then the libtards remember to look at who is kicking you when you're down. if mccain is still alive in 4 years kristol and the ws would be all over his saggy old balls again.

Posted by: unamerican libertarian formerly known as e.koenig at January 26, 2009 11:58 PM (2J+Vs)

89 Ace!

The top ... okay, whether he's the lawyer, the gun or the money, I dunno; but the point is: the flaming-roadkill-up-the-colon liberal who runs Lawyers, Guns & Money (You have to admit that's one pretty damn cool name for a blog, regardless of the political perversion.) actually mentioned YOU, Ace, as a candidate to succeed Kristol at the Times.

Well anyway, I think it was you: "Ace O'Spades" is your Irish heritage nom de blog, isn't it? Or maybe you and that guy know each other somehow.

This would be great.

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