The Price Of Scorning A Princess...Pissing Off The Kennedys
I think it's safe to say NY Gov. David Patterson won't be getting any invitations to the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis Port anytime soon. If he does manage to wrangle one, he shouldn't accept any rides from Teddy to get there.
An "apoplectic" Kennedy family is seething over the rough treatment that heiress apparent Caroline got from Gov. Paterson's office and is spoiling for revenge, several sources close to the clan have told The Post. "The governor's going to pay for this," said a well-placed Democrat. "Ted is furious. The family is furious. The Kennedys are now against the governor."And it's not just the Kennedy's who are pissed that Paterson selected Kirsten Gillibrand for Hillary Clinton's seat in the Senate. Plenty of downstate Democrats are mad and gun grabbing Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy has already vowed to primary Gillibrand in 2010. But that rift in the party may not be Paterson's biggest worry. Some analysts are saying that the snub of Andrew Cuomo guarantees that Mario's son will run against Paterson himself in 2010.
The only question being asked in state Democratic circles was not if - but when - Cuomo, who did not attend yesterday's press conference, will announce his candidacy to challenge Paterson in next year's primary. "I see Gov. Cuomo in our future," quipped a prominent Democratic activist and lobbyist. The Dem characterized Paterson's performance over the past three days "as nothing short of outrageous" - particularly in handling Caroline Kennedy. Party insiders close to Cuomo say they expect the attorney general to announce he'll run for governor toward the end of this year. He's the most popular politician in the state, according to polls, and has a wealth of experience, including a stint as US secretary of Housing and Urban Development.Now Fred Dicker, who wrote the Cuomo story, is far more plugged in than I ever will be but I'm not as sure about this as he and his sources are. Cuomo ran an embarrassing primary for Governor in 2002 against H. Carl McCall who was the first black elected to statewide office (he was the Comptroller). That campaign went so badly that Cuomo had to drop out before the vote. I'm not sure Andrew Cuomo is set to make his mark as the guy who runs against every black Democrat running for Governor in NY. That said, Cuomo is an ambitious guy and he's blocked from moving up for the next 4-6 years unless he runs in a primary, so we'll see.
The most depressing part of this otherwise enjoyable Democratic crackup is the fact that NY Republicans aren't in much of position to capitalize on it. Right now the biggest star on the Republican bench is a guy named Rudy Giuliani. Does he want in on this? Remember, he was running for this Senate seat in 2000 before being stricken with cancer. Will he run against Gillibrand (or the winner of the primary) in 2010? If he does and he wins, it means another campaign in 2012. Is he interested in running for Governor? Keep in mind he's 64 years old (65 in May). Has he had enough of politics and is now content to make money with his consulting firm?
Beyond Rudy, there's really no one with any name recognition or record to speak of in the wings. I wonder if former Governor George Pataki wants to run for the Senate but yeesh, he wasn't so popular on his way out. Still he flirted with a presidential run in 2007 for 2008 that went no where. Maybe Republicans can parachute someone in from around the country ala Hillary in 2000. And speaking of Hillary, isn't it funny how she and her husband manage to leave a trail of destruction no matter where they go? Still, it's all popcorn worthy to say the least.Comments
Posted by: XBradTC at January 25, 2009 12:30 PM (Ht0jU)
Speaking of Andrew Cuomo, some nut shot into a crowd with an AK-47 Friday night, killing two and there were immediate cries for a new, bigger, permanent ban on "assault weapons"
Posted by: Tinian at January 25, 2009 12:31 PM (Ohodx)
It's all about the Medicaid.
Posted by: someone at January 25, 2009 12:33 PM (1wXl7)
I want to be in politics, but only if you're really really nice and gentle about it.
<snort>
It's the political equivalent of "does this make me look fat?" Don't put yourself forward for a political office if you don't want to be judged on your performance in public and among other politicians.
Posted by: MamaAJ at January 25, 2009 12:40 PM (X6Zdh)
Posted by: Pigilito at January 25, 2009 12:40 PM (W6rU5)
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacciiiiiiiiiissssssst!
At least, I've learned that any conflict with a black elected official is, right?
Posted by: nickless at January 25, 2009 12:40 PM (MMC8r)
Man, if you say those lines with a Nixonian voice:
"The governor's going to pay for this," said a well-placed Democrat. "Ted is furious. The family is furious. The Kennedys are now against the governor."
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 25, 2009 12:43 PM (n2eCn)
The enjoyable part of this soap opera is that New York isn't really involved. It's what these political families want. I'd be disowned if I were to go into politics. I can't imagine the shame of life in a 'political family'.
Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2009 12:45 PM (FcR7P)
Didn’t Saint Caroline drop out on her own because she didn’t want to reveal her tax woes? What have they to bitch about other than they see the public finally having had enough of the Kennedy clan.
As for the gun grabbin due to the shooting into a crowd, how about the guy going in and knifing all those children. Will they start grabbin knives now?
Posted by: Vic at January 25, 2009 12:46 PM (f6os6)
Mmmmm. Feels like mink.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 25, 2009 12:49 PM (DMkhn)
Posted by: MamaAJ at January 25, 2009 12:55 PM (X6Zdh)
Posted by: Herr Steifenhoch at January 25, 2009 12:56 PM (cWg6W)
Republicans and Conservatives will get nothing more than episodic entertainment from Democrat cat fights.
A Conservative Republican candidate backed by a Conservative Republican Party is what we need.
Fuck popcorn. Democrats are getting the last laugh.
Posted by: eman at January 25, 2009 12:59 PM (ZsOIJ)
Has that crossed anyones mind?
Oh, caroline was an idiot, and Bush was almost an idiot, but he had good intentions.
I told this story over at my place about how when I was a big comic dork in my teens I told a friend about an idea I had about a retarded superhero.
Thing is that while he had super powers, he was also retarded, so he destroyed large swaths of "the city" (in my case chicago) without knowing where he was going or what he was doing.
At the end, the retard was successful in catching the bad guy, but in the process the retarded superhero destroyed everything he was protecting.
Imagine team america mixed with "damage control" (a comic mini-series) thats what we were working at in about '90.
Democracy consists of a bunch of retarded superheroe's.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at January 25, 2009 01:03 PM (ul7te)
Posted by: Indythinker at January 25, 2009 01:06 PM (WiIQi)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2009 01:07 PM (GlrN/)
Sure as hell not in New York or the northeast.
I'm with you eman. We're just watching the lions fighting over the kill.
Posted by: MrDIe at January 25, 2009 01:08 PM (MrDIe)
Posted by: eman at January 25, 2009 01:11 PM (ZsOIJ)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at January 25, 2009 01:14 PM (gljje)
How can such a neat state be so full of fucked up people?
Let's not forget, New York was the ONLY state that voted NOT to declare independence from the Brits.
Think they'd take em back?
Kemp
Posted by: kempermanx at January 25, 2009 01:16 PM (2+9Yx)
This sort of thinking keeps the Party continually on the defensive. Ronald Reagan won the Presidency and the Cold War by going on the offensive. That is how you win. Attack! Attack! Attack!
Posted by: eman at January 25, 2009 01:17 PM (ZsOIJ)
Posted by: Dave in PB at January 25, 2009 01:21 PM (CTSya)
Posted by: Andy Cuomo at January 25, 2009 01:24 PM (ad8lc)
Just want to throw out that Peter King was talking about running.
Posted by: Matt at January 25, 2009 01:27 PM (0z0tO)
Posted by: eman at January 25, 2009 01:29 PM (ZsOIJ)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 01:29 PM (MKNSy)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 25, 2009 01:30 PM (n2eCn)
<blockquote>Andrew Cuomo [...] will run against Paterson [...] in 2010.</blockquote>
Aww, c'mon Andy, let the blind man stay in.
Posted by: clark smith at January 25, 2009 01:32 PM (4gHqM)
Posted by: eman at January 25, 2009 01:33 PM (ZsOIJ)
At the end, the retard was successful in catching the bad guy, but in the process the retarded superhero destroyed everything he was protecting.
Didn’t Will Smith just do a movie with that plot? Han….something or another….
Posted by: Vic at January 25, 2009 01:38 PM (f6os6)
Posted by: GarandFan at January 25, 2009 01:42 PM (237hA)
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/
Posted by: CB at January 25, 2009 01:43 PM (9Wv2j)
Bad week for the Kennedys. Ted nearly croaks at the Coronation, the Princess poops out to spend more time with her family, and G. W. Bushitler McChimpeyburton signed the final approval for the Cape Wind project on his way out the door! Hope Teddy lives long enough to count the windmills from his back porch.
Any bad week for the Kennedys is a good week for America... well, except for that million-moonbat thingy in DC where they crowned an empty suit, creating a priapism epidemic at MSNBC.
Posted by: sherlock at January 25, 2009 01:51 PM (8V5Ut)
Even if there is no GOP candidate to run, I enjoy watching this pile up. I only hope Obama gets blame for some of it, because it appears promises were made and not kept...
Tiger Hawk had this post:
n the middle of Evan Thomas' insidery campaign book, A Long Time Coming, there is a section on early conflict between John McCain and Barack Obama in the Senate, even before Obama was openly running for president. I thought this bit was interesting for more than one reason:
Without reading too much into this anecdote, on immigration, at least, Barack Obama took care of his base and John McCain did not, and his base included Caroline Kennedy. She must indeed be a little bitter about now.
Posted by: Joe at January 25, 2009 01:53 PM (0Gde6)
Is there any state that goes Dem that ever goes back to being Pubbie?
In 2002 the R's took over the NC legislature by a 61-59 majority and the Donks simply go get one of the R's to cross over so that there was a 60-60 tie until the next election (google "Black and Decker Scandal" for the details-suffice it to say that the former Dem speaker of the NC House-Black-is now in federal prison for his part). This year the R's took over the Tenn. Leg. by a single vote. What happens? The Dems work a deal where they agree to vote for a maverick R as speaker and he votes for himself so he gets the speakership by a single vote. Now he is the speaker and has the power to appoint committee chairs-what do you want to bet that they will be the same Dems as were there in the last election.
The point is that the Dems will fight (dirty) to hold on to power, while the Pubbies go all "gang of whatever" and then give their Presidential nomination to the one guy who did the most to weaken the party's will to fight when they had the majority.
Let me put this another way: The Pubbies have had the Presidency for 28 of my 42 years and have appointed seven of the nine USSC justices. Despite that-they haven't been able to put a majority in place that could prevent an abomination like the Kelo decision. When I start to think about stuff like that it makes me reluctant to ever give them another dime of my money. What's the point?
Posted by: CavMedic at January 25, 2009 01:53 PM (rYFmu)
Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at January 25, 2009 01:53 PM (PBGAP)
Posted by: sickinmass at January 25, 2009 01:54 PM (/i4dU)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 25, 2009 01:56 PM (5OVpL)
'Is there any state that goes Dem that ever goes back to being Pubbie?'
We have to fight dirty. Screw McCain's BS Honor, this is for all the marbles.
Posted by: Pelayo at January 25, 2009 02:00 PM (nw+cE)
None that I can see. I live in Iowa, where politics are even more schizophrenic than normal: on the one hand you have a pretty solid red-state worldview socially, but since agriculture drives 90% (or something) of the state's economy you've got everyone surgically sewn onto the government teat. Thus whoever gets elected does so by promising yet more subsidies for agriculture... no surprise they end up voting with the Donks in congress.
You just can't compete against "all 'free' shit, all the time."
Posted by: bullfrog at January 25, 2009 02:08 PM (dW6LM)
"all 'free' shit, all the time."
Until that sort of thinking gets everyone fucked. TANSTAAFL should be the Conservative motto.
Posted by: Pelayo at January 25, 2009 02:11 PM (nw+cE)
yeah, but by that point will it matter? There's one rule of politics even more ironclad than "states that go Dem, never go back" and that is no government program can ever be ended. They went socialist back in the '60s in Europe and they're now well and truly fucked, but you don't see governmental rollbacks making any headway over there....
Posted by: bullfrog at January 25, 2009 02:14 PM (dW6LM)
Upstate should secede from downstate -- break it off at the northern border of westchester.
Liberals (and "moderates") have destroyed our State. My ancestors have been here since the Dutch, but I'm about ready to GTFO.
Posted by: NYCcon at January 25, 2009 02:17 PM (jLXdE)
31 Poor Kennedy's, people are no longer kissing their asses.
One day it will occur to all that the Kennedy dynasty's only real constituency is the MSM.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2009 02:17 PM (4gHqM)
You know, with Uncle Teddy having one foot in the grave, being furious can't be good for him. That's all I'm saying. I will take the Christian high road, and leave it at that. : )
Posted by: amy at January 25, 2009 02:19 PM (/Pin7)
Oh, I dunno... hate to sound all pessimistic ('cause I know y'all hate that), but America has had 40 years to figure that out and it ain't happened yet.
Posted by: bullfrog at January 25, 2009 02:20 PM (dW6LM)
So you think William Kennedy Smith is planning on raping the governor's ass while Michael Skakel beats him to death with a golf club?
Michael Kennedy could poke him also, if you tell him he's the new babysitter.
Ted Kennedy could drive the body to the water and dump it and the car.
Or zombie John F. Kennedy Jr. could take the gov up in a small plane and crash into the sea, after eating his brains, of course.
Zombie JFK could launch a slow moving zombie attack on the governor's mansion and then neglect to send in the fast moving zombie reinforcements in a Bay of Pigs style cluster fuck zombie attack. I'm not sure it would accomplishment anything but it would be very Kennedy-esque. For sure. He could then scream "Ich bin ein Berliner!" and rip open his shirt to reveal a chocolaty chest with a cream filling center oozing out through a rotting pastry skin.
So many options for such a diversely talented family. Ya know?
Posted by: Dang at January 25, 2009 02:22 PM (Y5LIx)
Posted by: sherlock at January 25, 2009 02:23 PM (8V5Ut)
How does this help Michelle's kids? /sarc
Posted by: SGT Dan at January 25, 2009 02:23 PM (s1XiY)
34 joe & 35 CavMedic
These two commentors, and I thank them for providing this background info, are two reasons I like coming to AOS.
As for Patterson, Kennedy, Cuomo et al, not my problem. I live in sunny AZ and we've got problems of our own. New Governor, who replaces Napolitano, is going to be tested, and if she succeeds (though she has a short window for this) we may begin to restore a conservative base.
And of course we'll have John McCain to deal with in 2010.
Politics sure is a bitch, and it sure gets in the way of rational decision making, but until people begin to admit that elections have consequences we'll all be cleaning up the messes these asshole politicians make.
We do have a Civil War battle site here.....just sayin'.
Posted by: solitary knight at January 25, 2009 02:28 PM (TDUAw)
Posted by: Silent Bob at January 25, 2009 02:30 PM (fgOoX)
Posted by: torabora at January 25, 2009 02:31 PM (fgOoX)
Posted by: SlaveDog at January 25, 2009 02:34 PM (Dn0LG)
Hopefully this Donk on Donk fighting is just the first exchanges in a wider Donk on Donk Political Civil War. Maybe a few Conservative Democrats can defect.
Posted by: Holger Danske at January 25, 2009 02:35 PM (nw+cE)
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 25, 2009 02:39 PM (9aAKh)
Just think about the men that came out of those states back in the 1770's. We had Paul Revere, now we have Barney Frank. We had Alexander Hamilton, now we have Cuomo. Hell, give me Zombie Burr over the morons in New York now.
The fight now has to be about freedom. The more government you have the less freedom there is. That's the bottom line. Less freedom with your money. Less freedom to put your kid in any school you want. Less freedom to choose a doctor. That's it. Americans still respond to that. This really could be a crucial few years. If we get socialized medicine, it ain't going back. If we get nationalized banking, it ain't going back. Freedom is on the line.
Posted by: SalvucciFumbles at January 25, 2009 02:39 PM (//1Rk)
Posted by: Holger Danske at January 25, 2009 02:46 PM (nw+cE)
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 25, 2009 02:49 PM (9aAKh)
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 25, 2009 02:52 PM (9aAKh)
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 25, 2009 02:59 PM (9aAKh)
Priorities.
The notion that a guy with a brain tumor would spend any time or energy being angry about this is simply stunning. Enjoy your time in hell, Teddy, 'cause that's where you're headed.
Posted by: Y-not at January 25, 2009 03:01 PM (P9xCZ)
Cocksucker extraordinaire, yet at least he had the decency to become a fugitive after murdering Hamilton while he was Vice President.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 03:03 PM (MKNSy)
Posted by: silly one at January 25, 2009 03:06 PM (zplc6)
Posted by: JerBear at January 25, 2009 03:14 PM (mzfP0)
Posted by: JerBear at January 25, 2009 03:16 PM (mzfP0)
I'm going through the Stimulus Bill, line by line, and I'm up through a little over a quarter of it by now.
Here's an interesting factoid: $4.85 billion in stimulus, total, goes to DoD. $4.85 for facilities improvements, and $350 million for "energy efficiency improvements." That's about 1/2 of 1% of the total package, and far less than is allotted to "oversight" of the new program. In fact, it's less than is allotted for water and sewer improvements for rural communities.
I guess we know which programs Obama thinks "don't work."
Posted by: notropis at January 25, 2009 03:17 PM (Q/yna)
Posted by: notropis at January 25, 2009 03:18 PM (Q/yna)
h/t The Breda Fallacy
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 03:19 PM (MKNSy)
Posted by: payaso at January 25, 2009 03:30 PM (n6Fp0)
CB at January 25, 2009 01:43 PM (9Wv2j)
What kills me the most about Iowahawks article is the picture of Rosa (the same he used on the first post) with the caption: Rosa in happier times.
Comedy gold.
Posted by: jaleach at January 25, 2009 03:31 PM (gHrZU)
Posted by: Shaitan at January 25, 2009 03:31 PM (65WaW)
Posted by: Frank G at January 25, 2009 03:35 PM (P0rQD)
Posted by: Angry White Dude at January 25, 2009 03:41 PM (upAH4)
But really. Ted's no Jack or Bobby -- everyone knows this. And Caroline, pathetically, is not even a Ted. Who else is there? John-John's dead. Patrick's brain-dead. Robert's busy tilting at windmills. The rest are either too complacent wallowing in their trust funds to care or too dumb to cash in on the political gold that their name holds.
Adios, Kennedys. Your time has come and gone.
Posted by: red speck at January 25, 2009 03:42 PM (6RSWl)
Posted by: klrtz1 at January 25, 2009 03:43 PM (5jP7T)
Posted by: jaleach at January 25, 2009 03:43 PM (gHrZU)
Ted's no Jack or Bobby
Thing is, when you take the time to read the record, Jack and Bobby are no Jack and Bobby either. Know what I mean?
Posted by: jaleach at January 25, 2009 03:45 PM (gHrZU)
Nothing to add. Just stopped in to thank alexthechick for the visual @ 10.
Will somebody please send her one of those little video attachment things?
Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2009 03:47 PM (pUg4a)
HA. A very succinct summary of America's sordid first family of crime. You forgot bootlegging, Hitler-loving papa Joe.
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 25, 2009 04:00 PM (fWF4Q)
Posted by: mjhlaw at January 25, 2009 04:21 PM (8Ywpg)
If he hadn't been so stupid it killed him (and if he hadn't been photographed smacking his bitch up in the street), I wouldn't have believed that the Kennedy/Onassis gene-cesspool actually produced him. He looked totally human.
Darwin, you scamp! A twofer!
Posted by: Hc34T at January 25, 2009 04:29 PM (Hc34T)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at January 25, 2009 04:30 PM (oWAHQ)
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 25, 2009 04:30 PM (fWF4Q)
I wouldn't have believed that the Kennedy/Onassis gene-cesspool actually produced him.
He didn't have any Onassis in him.
Not since he was little anyway.
Posted by: payaso at January 25, 2009 04:35 PM (n6Fp0)
Posted by: Reiver at January 25, 2009 04:42 PM (HFT94)
Posted by: sherlock at January 25, 2009 04:44 PM (8V5Ut)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at January 25, 2009 04:44 PM (oWAHQ)
Posted by: CB at January 25, 2009 04:50 PM (9Wv2j)
Are you referring to the infamous Daryl Hannah episode in Central Park? Always got a laugh out of that, especially since she went through the same girlfriend-beating shit with libtard musician Jackson Browne.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 05:11 PM (MKNSy)
Maybe Republicans can parachute someone in from around the country ala Hillary in 2000.
How about Laura Bush? Wouldn't that be hoot if she could win Hillary's old seat? Oh, wait. Laura has standards. Never mind.
Posted by: John F Not Kerry at January 25, 2009 05:18 PM (HF2US)
Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at January 25, 2009 05:30 PM (PBGAP)
I think that's a side effect of years-worth of blow, or possibly fen-phen use.
Is it me, or does the Princess waddle like a fucking penguin?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 05:43 PM (MKNSy)
Hillary sees herself as an executive and will go "home" to New York, taking advantage of the Patterson/Kennedy/Cuomo split to run for Governor. Then, as the Obama administration stumbles to a close, she can challenge him for the nomination in '12.
There is no one with more ambition and less scruples than the Clintons, even the Kennedys.
Posted by: Ken Hahn at January 25, 2009 05:45 PM (2PWN5)
Posted by: katya at January 25, 2009 05:46 PM (oRJZj)
Posted by: Chas at January 25, 2009 05:46 PM (1XTjz)
So true, ITC. Some women start that shit and, while I not saying it's right or wrong, the man (legally) always gets the short end of that stick. And I say this as a woman.
JKF Jr., though, I have to say it, goddamn, he was gorgeous. Definitely in the "beautiful but stupid" category, but very nice to look at.
Posted by: CB at January 25, 2009 05:48 PM (9Wv2j)
"Ted is furious."
Ted is an original "greenie". He's been running on government-subsidized ethanol for decades.
Posted by: Chas at January 25, 2009 05:51 PM (1XTjz)
Posted by: katya at January 25, 2009 05:51 PM (oRJZj)
Gun grabbing Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy is a loose cannon who frequently goes off half cocked.
Posted by: Chas at January 25, 2009 05:53 PM (1XTjz)
Actually, there was a rumor that JFK Jr's biological father was Bill Holden, and that the reason why Uncle Teddy had his nephew cremated as soon as possible after the plane crash was to make sure no one could do a DNA test on the remains.
Posted by: PA Cat at January 25, 2009 06:12 PM (Oc7bG)
2. We ought to applaud the inclusion of the likes of Caroline Kennedy into the Senate. It's a House of Lords, and we ought to simply accept that the Senate is a polite, effeminate circle jerk rather than pretending that "competence," "constituent commitment," and "honesty" are prerequisites.
3. Jesus, that fucking woman is ugly. I mean, for real.
Posted by: railwriter at January 25, 2009 06:16 PM (XcsD4)
Not until there's some kind of major collapse and people are unable to buy Doritos and watch American Idol every week will they realize that unlimited federal spending is not possible.
Until that happens, there's no cost. Voters will continue to elect big spenders (from both parties) based on how much free shit they get in return. Once you discover you can vote yourself rich from the public treasury, there's no limit.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 25, 2009 06:24 PM (XUV9W)
Remember how Holden died? Busted his head open by slipping on a throw rug and falling against a table while.......wait for it.........blindingly drunk.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 06:36 PM (MKNSy)
You have Tio Teddy, the Massachusetts state swimming and driving coach?
Papa Joe was a depression era Irish Rum runner and Mafia wannabe/associate who made the family fortune off of drunk Yankees.
Joanne Kennedy married to Tio Teddy, barracho and misogynist, who was run over by a car once while drunk in Boston, the Kennedy Tribe's Hub.
JFK, a pill head before being a pill head was fashionable and an adulterer with a sexy woman who we all must agree was so dumb she probably talked to people's penises 9as she was sucking them) in the first person.
Jackie O, apparently Bouvier is French for 'available to the highest bidder', who slept her way from one social scene to another, dragging her trust fund tax deductions with her and letting the help raise them.
John-John Jr, NYC lawyer. Hard to believe but he passed the NY state bar just in time to prove he was marginally smart enough to pass a test and with time to spare to prove he was a dumb a Kennedy as there has ever been...who just happened to fly a passenger plane into a storm, at night, carrying himself, his wife, his sister-in-law and his legacy into the Atlantic. After all, he was drinking, with a broken leg, flying at night, in the dark, without VFR training, over water, in a storm, with his wife and sister-in-law along...but he was Kennedy,what could go wrong?
Michael Skakel, fat, balding woman killer and social hemorrhoid.
William Kennedy Smith, date rapist and all around fun guy Kennedy.
Patrick Kennedy, substance abusing, drunk ass, Kennedy from the old school mold.
RFK, the lost liberally ideological of the Tribe, a real go-getter until one of his own go-got him first.OOps!!
I won't even bother with Peter Lawford, The Shriver Clan, Maria Shwarzenhugger Moosejaw, and the rest of this cast of well heeled inbreds.
Too bad they don't all relocate to Bimini or the Adriatic, then the EuroTrash Paparazi could get their fill of weekly drunken exploits and far more frequent Princess Di level car wrecks thanks to Kennedy-esque drinking and driving. Think Partick and Teddy for this...
Posted by: Enter sandman at January 25, 2009 06:36 PM (zxaA2)
Posted by: katya at January 25, 2009 06:38 PM (oRJZj)
Posted by: Enter sandman at January 25, 2009 06:38 PM (zxaA2)
You're right. Those bastards would wear togas and wreaths on their heads if they thought they could get away with it. Look at the Kleagle. Fucking guy quotes Socrates and Plato, when earlier in his life he would have strung them up for being "not like good Americans". Gasbags. All of them. Shit, I don't even like OUR senators.
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 25, 2009 06:40 PM (fWF4Q)
Posted by: Enter sandman at January 25, 2009 06:41 PM (zxaA2)
Caroline dropped out because she is boning the top dog @ the NYT Pinch Sulzberger. His wife left him, and it looks like he want some more.
The press contact would have been great for Patterson...I mean doesn't he need the NYT support when he runs again???
Who knows, maybe Caroline will be boning BO by then...
Posted by: ford at January 25, 2009 06:43 PM (Ki7fm)
Beware the Ides of March Caroline!
Paterson; Et Tu, Tio Teddy?
Posted by: Enter sandman at January 25, 2009 06:45 PM (zxaA2)
If not, I meant to.
Don't forget Rosie's lobotomy...or waitress sandwiches.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2009 06:45 PM (MKNSy)
Caroline dropped out because she is boning the top dog @ the NYT Pinch Sulzberger. His wife left him, and it looks like he want some more.
Has that been proven/acknowledged?
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 25, 2009 06:46 PM (fWF4Q)
Who knows, maybe Caroline will be boning BO by then...
Oh my, what an image.
waitress sandwiches.
Hadn't heard that one. Enlighten me.
Posted by: katya at January 25, 2009 06:47 PM (oRJZj)
Heck, I'd hit that. For historical purposes, of course.
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 25, 2009 06:49 PM (fWF4Q)
Posted by: Pelayo at January 25, 2009 06:50 PM (nw+cE)
Posted by: Pelayo at January 25, 2009 06:50 PM (nw+cE)
Uh, no, not really. It's about a wash, I'd say.
Posted by: Enter sandman at January 25, 2009 06:53 PM (zxaA2)
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Paterson is a legally blind African-American, and these lilly white Irish racist are going after him? What does one get when a $1500 suit is put on low life white tash? . . . . A Massachusets Kennedy.
Feel the Love.
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It might cost him his job, Cuomo will be hard to beat. but IMO Paterson doesn't want the job.
Paterson probably won't run for election. It is a tough job and certainly less rewarding then moving on to lectures, writing, board memberships, etc. He has a lock on senior status in the Democratic Party for the remainder of his life.
Simply agreeing to get out of Cuomo's way next year may be.... ahem.... rewarding. That would set Cuomo up for a shot at President in 2016. If Cuomo had gone to the Senate then exactly who might pay Paterson to not run in 2010?
All-in-all the Governor came out looking better than anyone else in this empty affair.
Hilary is snookered. She has no run at President and isn't getting any younger. And at State she can only do what Obama wants. But she knew that going in, so she is going to State because she believes it will enhance her prestige and income afterwards.
She will replace Albright as the former SOS of choice for any PC occasion. Expect her to resign after a year to eighteen months of the Smart Diplomacy or whatever she is selling now.
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Doubtless, the Kennedy family is enraged, but there’s little they can do.
However glorious Camelot was, it was 40 years ago, and since then we’ve seen the downside of the Kennedys.
In no particular order:
- Chappaquiddick (the Dike bridge, as rebuilt, screams guilt 
- William Kennedy Smith (2 or 3 times, at least one involving Uncle Teddy)
- Sargent Shriver (comedy relief)
- Rumors that Teddy tried to sell out to the Soviets (borderline trooferism, but the timeline, politics and locations fit, and Teddy hasn’t been susceptible to extortion since Chpq.; why invent fiction?)
- Michael Skakel ( a cousin and a real skidmark, but he fits the William Kennedy Smith mould, or is it the other way?)
My guess is that more than a few people are tired of the Kennedy family activities.
Joe P. Kennedy II and Pat J. Kennedy, both US Congressmen at some point, have (average?) records, perhaps they will be fixtures in their districts, but they are not up to their parent’s abilities. Ed. Kennedy Jr., fits this profile too.
Now we’ve seen Caroline and she’s about as qualified as Sargent Shriver, and has a few more problems
Wading through Wiki, the Kennedy family is large and potentially influential, but in an advisorly way; they may ne very well connected, and may recommend, advise, even promote people and ideas, but they are not the John or Bobby (or maybe even Teddy) of Camelot. Now the Kennedys ask and accept what they are given.
Gov. Patterson may have realized enough of these things to decide to stand up and decide to have things his way.
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If she is also screwing Pinch Sulzberger, well then, retardation it is.
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Actually, Burr gets a bad rap. He's a Revolutionary War hero, was a faithful husband and caring person. He was also very respectful in Congress. He's remembered for the duel and for his trial of treason. There is a lot of info that points to the treason charges being bogus. And a duel is a duel.
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I love this part of the story: “When Senator Edward Kennedy (D., MA) was questioned regarding his niece's situation he turned red, shook violently and then drooled on his shirt. Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.” (Oh wait, maybe I made that up).
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The two men were political rivals. But Burr had no actual reason to quarrel with Hamilton, he chose to. He seized upon a rather mild remark Hamilton had written. Burr said it was an unforgivable insult. It was an insult beyond any possible settlement.
New York business and social circles were small then, the matter was hard to ignore.
No one else saw a big insult. To most there seemed no insult at all.. Hamilton retracted the remark. Burr said that wasn't good enough. He hounded Hamilton and called him a coward.
Finally Hamilton agreed to the duel. By that time duels were illegal almost everywhere. And those which were conducted were pro forma. You showed honor by accepting danger, shots were fired, they missed, and that ended the matter.
Burr insisted on a real duel and shot Hamilton as precisely as he could.
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