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The Audacity of Fraud Literary License^©

2 Obama, Our First Geuniune Author-PresidentTed Sorenson was unavailable for comment.

3 What was that about setting the bar high for lowered expectations?

OBAMA, so mediocre he's positively fabulous!

4

You must remember, Ace, that Lord Obama had to relinquish his throne in Heaven, take on the form of a man, and become a community organizer to be able to run for President...

I guess all that is considered a "step down into the presidency", right?

5 Obama, Our First Geuniune Author-President

Ted Sorenson was unavailable for comment.

Dammit, that's the second time today that I fucked up my formatting.

6 Except for that one author-president that penned the Declaration. Or John Adams who was among the most prolific writers of his day, not just in America, but in the world. I understand Lincoln too, who Obama endlessly invokes had a rather strong pen. Just sayin', Garrison, you fat, boring shit-heel.

7 Hey, Jesus only lived to be 33 and the most important part of the World's Leading Bestseller is about him.

Surely, The One can deliver a memoir at the tender age of 28, having been out of college for, oh wait, he was still in Law School.

8

Pravda's spin makes my head spin.

9 "Step down into the presidency?" Doesn't he mean "float down from the heavens surrounded by a glorious, golden aura of hope and change?"

10
I see a lot of honorary doctorates in Obama's future.

11

Obama is the first President since Washington to step down into the presidency.

Ike just told O to go fuck himself. I heard it.

12 I thought Kennedy was an author too?  I guess there were no presidents before the ONE?

13 our first genuine author-president.

Mother fucker didn't just say that!

14 Bill Ayers did Hussein's writing for him. Hussein has imaginary citizenship papers, an imaginary scholastic career, unknown medical records/school record, Islamic militant and militant racist(and terrorist butt-buddies)close friends, and criminal real estate agent, and etc., and etc., but he is going to miraculously heal the nation. He has just announced that he intends to negotiate with Iran with no preconditions.

Can you say "national catastrophe"?   Sure...I knew you could!

Yes we can!

15 I thought Kennedy was an author too?

Hence my comment about Ted Sorenson....

16 Yeah, that is a pretty good point about his writing contract and book. That just doesn't happen unless you either are someone... or certain powers that be want you to become someone.

17

There was a profound silence when Laura Bush was announced and walked out. People watched the big screen and when Michelle Obama appeared, there was a roar, and when the Current Occupant and Dick Cheney came out of the Capitol, a low and heartfelt rumble of booing. Dignified booing.

Garrison Keillor, you fucking cunt!

18 Mother fucker didn't just say that!

Apparently the cocksucker did indeed say that.

19 I'd like to be a hip dude but I don't get the "Geuniune" reference.

20 Great post, Ace and thank you. I'm glad the question of his "authorship" is still being scrutinized. WTF is right.

21 #12 - No Presidents before The One and if the Dimms have their way, no Presidents after The One (at which point, life here will be worse than Zimbabwe).

22 Keilor is a massive toolbox. I used to enjoy his radio show because of the music and his News from Lake Wobegone, but he's turned into a partisan hack the past five or so years and I just don't even tune it in anymore.

23 Washington and Eisenhower took steps down. Obama has yet to take a step at all.

24 Obama is FIRST.  ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

25 Maybe he will put his amazing literary skills to use and send a sternly worded letter to Achmadinnerjacket and finally end the tensions between the US and Iran...

26 I thought Kennedy was an author too?

Yeah, but Kennedy's book wasn't about Obama, therefore it doesn't count.

27

I worked in publishing for a number of years, and regarding The Other McLain's scenario of how Obama got to be an author, all I can say is: That ain't the publishing world I knew. Of course, affirmative action could have infiltrated even the once-ultra-capitalistic author-publisher relationship. That, or Obama is really the Chosen One, and got God the Father to work a miracle for him.

28 Keillor is full of shit. Not even close.

Theodore Roosevelt published The Naval War of 1812 upon his graduation from Harvard. It's still pretty much the definitive history on the subject.

Hmm. Serious historian versus mastabutory fluff. You make the call.

29 I believe William Ayers wrote his books.  He probably did Obama's homework and research papers too.

30

Mr. Obama’s original plan was to write a book about race relations. But, sitting down to write, he found his mind "pulled toward rockier shores."

 

And yet another nautical reference from the land-lubber Obama.

31

Teddy Roosevelt wrote 8 books before he became President, and at least 5 more after he left office.

32 Garrison who?

33 Mother fucker didn't just say that!

I agree with the Stuff Jefferson Said.

34 How many world leaders are laughing at us right now?

35 Fish @17 made me LOL. Thank you too.

36 "Obama is the first President since Washington to step down into the presidency."

How about:

U.S. Grant - Noted General during the Civil War who earned the nickname "Unconditional Surrender"

Teddy Roosevelt - Extremely popular war hero during the Spanish-American War

Dwight Eisenhower - Extremely popular General during WWII that led the Normandy Invasion and was also the only 5-star General in history, IRRC.

I guess wartime accomplishments are not as important as writing a couple of books in the eyes of Big Media.

37 "student law journal stuff"

or

elected as the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, an event which made national news at the time.

Yeah, that's basically the same thing.

38

Obama didn't even right anything for his law review. Geez. I did all my homework in college. Do I get to be an author-president now?

39 Obama is the first President since Washington to step down into the presidency.

Really? Not Thomas Jefferson, the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence then merely taking part in the government he helped create?

Not Andrew Jackson, who was remembered as a war hero when elected?

Not Ulysses S. Grant, the famed Civil War general who helped save the Union.

Not Theodore Roosevelt, the Rough Rider war hero.

Not Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during WWII.

No, it was a community organizer from corrupt Chicago politics that has less experience than George Washington's left nut that had to fill the General's shoes.

40 I used to enjoy his radio show because of the music and his News from Lake Wobegone, but he's turned into a partisan hack the past five or so years and I just don't even tune it in anymore.

Likewise. He was intolerable the weekend after the election. I remember him fulminating about how the Obama girls "obviously get their grace and poise from their mother." *snorts*

I like the musical acts he has on his show, but Garrison Keillor is a complete dick otherwise. The last paragraph of that article was the worst. What a classless little man he is.

41 Hey Keilor, you fuckin' hack, did the motherfucker have throat cancer when he wrote his memoirs at the ripe old age of 28?

42 You can't expect Keillor to know any history.  That detracts from his adoration of the One.

(I told him to fuck off years ago when he became just another dime-a-dozen hack writer)

43 elected as the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, an event which made national news at the time.

Of course unlike past Presidents of the Review, he didn't actually have anything published in it. Hmmmmm.

44 Obama's book deals and Michelle's job were just disguised campaign contributions. If these people were held to account they should be in jail for fraud.

45 That speech was not well-written. filled with hackneyed phrases.

46 At this rate, we won't have to grow old to see what history says about the Osama years.  They're pre-writing it for us now.  Can't wait to see the chapter on how he healed the market.  I want to know what stocks to buy.

47
...elected as the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, an event which made national news at the time.

Really?

Provide a citation for this momentous occasion.

48 I try to be nice around here, but Garrison Keillor is a big piece of shit. Clinically speaking, he's a turd that has mastered language. If I were a member of Congress, I'd introduce legislation that would expand the order of succession such that if there a disaster that left two suvivors in the country, and they were Garrison Keillor and an incontinent three-legged beagle, the dog would outrank him. Did I mention that Keillor is a piece of shit? To be fair to the majority of pieces of shit, I meant to compare him to that green shit that comes out after drinking Old Milwaukee. That's what Garrison Keillor is: a piece of green, Old Mil shit.

49

Selected, not elected.

50

Uhhhh uhhhh uhhhh I think my brain just short-circuited. Soooo much wrong with these two moronic statements. "step down" what the fuck? What job is higher than the president of the united states?

And, umm what everyone else said about those other author presidents. Maybe Keillor meant the first author-president to write fiction? Because Obama's narrative is grade A fction in my book.

51 the Obama girls "obviously get their grace and poise from despite their mother

Heh.

52 "Yes, children.  I remember the day, the day that the President-Future slew the forces of evil in the Harvard Law administration and became the first black editor of the Harvard Law Journal."

"Grandpa, didn't other Presidents do things like write the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, save the Union from Civil War, save the Earth from the Axis powers?"

"Hush you, we're talking Harvard Law here".

53

Provide a citation for this momentous occasion.

It did make some Sunday supplement sections back in the day, but it wasn't front page stuff.

54 Doesn't Garrison Keillor come from the state that just selected Al Franken to the Senate and once had a professional wrestler as its governor?  That 'splains a lot.

55
Keillor must be one of those white liberals who harbor so much guilt for feeling only contempt and superiority towards blacks that to atone he must offer flattery to Obama, the token black.

56

Gerisson Keillor playes bad folk music, and that's redundant.  He's also consistently unfunny and would never be heard if it wasn't for tax payer supported public radio.

Tahnks again Minnisota.

57 Hell, if Ronald Reagan had gone straight from making movies with Bonzo to being president, it would still have been a bigger step down than the one Obama (pboh) allegedly took.

Also:

or certain powers that be want you to become someone.

Bingo.

This was my reaction to Obama's national debut at the '04 Dem convention.  Here's this guy.  OK, he's got charisma and delivers a nice speech.  He's also nothing more at the time than an Illinois state senator.  And the media powers that be gushed and fawned--"He's going to be president someday!"  And I thought, "Based on WHAT?"

And then he's elected to the US senate, and within a year, he's suddenly turning up on lists of the all-time greatest Americans.  (Remember that?)  Again, based on what?

I hate to go down the "shadowy powers that really control things" road.  But I'm convinced that the powers that be--or some portion of the powers that be--were promoting this guy as a future president for no apparent reason.  My father-in-law (lifelong Chicagoan) thinks the Daley machine is behind it all.  To a certain extent, no doubt.  But I didn't think the Daley machine was that powerful.

58 #50 - Heh! So right you are. I read his 'memoirs' and was not impressed - angst driven fiction was what I thought at that time!

59

Kennedy, like Obama, did not write the book he was credited with. (That was the Sorenson hint above)

60

Garrison Keillor is retarded. Who'd a thunk it? A pretentious, historically illiterate twat--sure. But retarded?

Must have been all that Lake Woebegone inbreeding.

Yah sure.

61 What job is higher than the president of the united states?
Posted by: ParanoidInSeattle at January 21, 2009 04:39 PM (AJ4xq)

Technically Tapper was right about Washington. The man could have been made Emperor or King. He chose neither but ultimately accepted the position of President. Of course that was a step down in to the realm of mortals (which was Tappers point about Obama and his leading a movement). Of course it's accurate in the case of Washington and delusional in the case of Obama.

62 I really may not make it through four years of this horseshit. The scary part is, now matter how big a fuck up he might be, he WILL be re-elected. The same ignorant cocksuckers that voted for chocolate jesus are the same ones that vote in the likes of Marion Barry, etc. Only the color, or the (D) next to the name, is important. In a few years, the entire fucking country will be a massive illiterate shithole like detroit. I am really starting to think Obama is the fucking antichrist.  Would people really be willing to act so deluded and infantile over a fucking empty suited affimitive action reject? God fucking help us!

63 #54, yes indeedy. The state motto is "Move away if you have any brains."

64 Keillor . . . would never be heard if it wasn't for tax payer supported public radio.

Isn't that true of pretty much everyone on public radio?

If they had an audience for what they do, they wouldn't have to rely on the government to give them a stage.

65

News Flash: We now know what the Repubs are going to be like. Hillary confirmed 94-2.

66 Fuck you naysayers!

U.S. Grant never rode a Unicorn!

And Charlie don't surf!

67 The genius of Obama is the ability to appear to be anything to anyone.  That doesn't wear well in public office.  Give it time.

68 Yup, it is going to be a very long 8 years. Might as well face reality folks, unless the idiot Republicans at the RNC figure out how to play, and figure it out quickly, we are screwed.

69 Strong women and good looking men Garrison?

Seems... what's the word Ace?

70 This anti-Obama stuff is boring. Can you please write something funny?

71 In its early days it wasn't so blatantly left. I used to contribute because I could get music not played elsewhere, and I appreciated their work. Eventually I quit, and I told them why. It didn't make a difference obviously as NPR is the democrats publicly funded propaganda machine.

72 These people make me want to puke.

73

I am pretty certain that Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were also authors.  I know Roosevelt was and I am pretty certain that as a college president Wilson had written a few papers in his time that were published.

 

And IIRC, Thomas Jefferson had a pretty nifty writing style that has been remarked upon.

74 We now know what the Repubs are going to be like. Hillary confirmed 94-2.

With McCain and his buttboy,  Lindsay, leading the pro-Hillary charge. 

75 All I want is those damned transcripts.  I want to see the faces of the worshipful when they see his terrible grades at Occidental which got him a transfer to Columbia where his terrible grades got him into Harvard Law.

Somebody shepherded this guy around and I think it was William Ayers.

And I think William Ayers' ego will not let him give credit to Obama for this book that everybody loves.

Oh and JFK "wrote" Profiles in Courage in the sense that it was his idea to have Ted Sorenson write the book.  Nothing wrong with that, except that it cuts into the idea that JFK was some sort of brilliant wordsmith.

On top of that, this whole absurd notion that being a good writer is somehow equivalent to intellect is a fallacy of the idiots who study in the wussmanities.  Prove a theorem, then I'll be impressed.  People with shallow ideas find it rather easy to express them so that others can understand.

People with deep ideas find writing hard because they have to write so that morons can grasp what's going on.

76 Keilor is a massive toolbox. I used to enjoy his radio show because of the music and his News from Lake Wobegone, but he's turned into a partisan hack the past five or so years and I just don't even tune it in anymore.

This is not some recent descent into hackery; Keillor always was a partisan douchewhistle. He's like Bill Moyers, only more of a tool. I remember Keillor throwing major hissy fits in the 80s when Ronald Reagan implemented policies he didn't agree with, and he's only gotten worse.

77 bart:

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Eat it.  Eat it good, bart.

78 Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Lincoln, Grant, and T. Roosevelt (15 published books beginning when he was in college) to start with.

Excluding post-election memoirs, you still have to count Carter ("Why not the Best") and maybe JFK ("Profiles in Courage"), though the latter was likely ghost written.

79 News Flash: We now know what the Repubs are going to be like. Hillary confirmed 94-2.

Well, I've always thought a president should have the cabinet he wants.  Of course, the Dems don't play that way, but it's hard for us to be dishonest.

It's not hard for liberals, they lie as a matter of course.  But for us, it's hard.

80 Something funny.

81

Obama also got his teaching job as a sinecure to give him an office to write his book in.

That didn't work, so four years later he took a four month vacation to Bali to finish it.  It came out just before he ran for the state senate.

The first book bombed, but when Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate he got a contract to write a second memoir - it came out just before he announced he was running for President.

82 I am already experiencing Obama fatigue. I work as a PA in Neurosurgery and had a physics professor in our clinic yesterday for an unrelated issue. He and his wife are what you would expect. Sixties generation social utopians who are near orgasmic about the One.

Pleasant conversation until Mrs. Prof stated that "for this to work we all have to believe in him. If you not trying to believe in him you are part of the problem." This was said calmly and I believe sincerely.

I said that my political beliefs were that I don't trust men with power and therefor want limited government. That I felt President Obama wants unlimited government with unlimited personal power and I could not support that.

Prof seemed to understand my point but Mrs. Prof looked at me liked she had just identified the enemy. These people are creeping me out.

83 To right (comment 80):

Thank you.

84 History starts whenever liberals say it starts.

85 Barack Obama, the worst black President ever. 

The fact that Garrison Keillor sharts his Depends in the presence of The One is just proof that Keillor is a man-douche of the first order.  _{(I have no idea what that even means, but it felt good to say it.)}

It's going to be a looooooong four years.

86

Teddy Roosevelt was the editor of Outlook and wrote 18 books.  But his last name is Roosevelt, not Obama, so he doesn't count, huh, Keillor, you fucking cockholster.

God DAMN it.

87 "for this to work we all have to believe in him. If you not trying to believe in him you are part of the problem."

I'm getting similar vibes from some of my Obama-supporting friends. It's beyond creepy. It's like they're the Borg trying to assimilate me or something.

88 I mean, damnation, the man's accomplished SO MUCH. 

Remember how the Annenberg Challenge made Chicago Public Schools the envy of the nation?

Remember the stunning success of his "community organization", and how that district of Chicago rose from the slums and elevated it's denizens into the middle-class?

Remember how, as a State Senator, he tirelessly fought corruption, endured the raging political storms, and produced the most ethitcal and productive Statehouse Illinois had ever seen?

Remember, as a US Senator, all those important televised committee hearings he chaired?  How many key pieces of legislation were pinned by him and defended on the Senate floor?

89  Is Garrison Keillor Alan Colmes' father?

90

Again, based on what?

Explain this from the New Yorker article "Making It" by Ryan Lizza:

Obama has always had a healthy understanding of the reaction he elicits in others, and he learned to use it to his advantage a very long time ago. Marty Nesbitt remembers Obama’s utter calm the day he gave his celebrated speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, in Boston, which made him an international celebrity and a potential 2008 Presidential candidate. “We were walking down the street late in the afternoon,” Nesbitt told me. “And this crowd was building behind us, like it was Tiger Woods at the Masters.”

“Barack, man, you’re like a rock star,” Nesbitt said.

“Yeah, if you think it’s bad today, wait until tomorrow,” Obama replied.

“What do you mean?”

“My speech,” Obama said, “is pretty good."

Why were crowds following Obamboozle BEFORE he made the speech?

91 "ethical" 

92 Everything about Barry is suspicious. And I am not talking about the conspiracy theories about his BC and the lot. But how it seems someone picked him years ago and groomed him into place. I mean he has NOTHING  to recommend him to the office of the presidency, except the votes.

93 "for this to work we all have to believe in him. If you not trying to believe in him you are part of the problem."

That's part of that Oprah "the universe will give you what you want if you just want it hard enough" pseudo-religious garbage, right?

94 93 "for this to work we all have to believe in him. If you not trying to believe in him you are part of the problem."

That's part of that Oprah "the universe will give you what you want if you just want it hard enough" pseudo-religious garbage, right?


That's like prayer right?  Isn't that some creepy right wing thing? 

95

Vic, Hillary as SecState is the only thing keeping us from actual barbarians at the fucking gate.  You know that woman wants to be president, and you know for damn sure she's going to make this country survive so she will be elected at some point.

This belief of mine allows me to sleep at night.

96 Hey, seattle slough, you dummy. If you read the first article that you so graciously sent to Bart you would know that Obama got to be head of Law Review because they wanted minorities. This was a change in policy. Before it was based on grades, then later, grades and writing ability. Next policy change; they wanted minorities. For Obama it was strictly because he was black.

Next time read your articles, moron (and not in a good way).

97 #89: No, he's Alan Colmes' MOTHER

98 Slice, Fuckin' Hammer.

Four years Black Jesus shall rule.

Ace, bring Teh Funny.


This haiku shit is addictive.

99 Sometimes God says no.  And sometimes He says, "stop sitting around wishing and do some actual work toward your goal, dumbass."

100 Go to Amazon and look up "Presidents who wrote books."  20 flipping books RIGHT THERE, by all kinds of US Presidents, from Nixon to Washington to Clinto to Truman.  God DAMN you straight to the blazing fires of hell, Garrison Keillor.

101

Heh. Sea-Slouch gets pwned by mare.  I wouldn't want you for my lawyer dude.  You suck too much.

102 Ushie,

Clinton didn't "write" his book.  He told the story to someone who then "wrote" the story. 

103 SeattleSlough CLAIMS to be a lawyer.

I fear for its clients.

104 Damn straight Hillary got confirmed. The only thing protecting this country right now is "...because in four years I'll re-visit your asses as Commander-in-Chief...".

105 Why were crowds following Obamboozle BEFORE he made the speech?


He is a manufactured idol. Like Paulson came up with the 700 billion number because it had to impress to work, the Obama mystique needs the uber man.
Anselm's ontological argument is being applied to Obama. 

"that than which nothing greater can be conceived". He reasoned that, if "that than which nothing greater can be conceived" existed only in the intellect, it would not be "that than which nothing greater can be conceived", since it can be thought to exist in reality, which is greater. It follows, according to Anselm, that "that than which nothing greater can be conceived" must exist in reality. wikipedia

Paraphrased. Since we all conceive he is the most sincere, intelligent and attractive president and nothing greater can be conceived, then he is in reality what we conceive him to be.

106 That's part of that Oprah "the universe will give you what you want if you just want it hard enough" pseudo-religious garbage, right?

Is it Kabbalah?

107 I actually feel safer with Hillary as SecState.  She can't have anything get in the way of future runs, so I think she'll work her ass off to keep things as straight as she can.

I guess I can be thankful for that, of a sorts.

108 From one of the articles linked by slough:

That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.

In other words, Obama got the job because the skids were greased for him.

Has he ever accomplished anything in his life where the skids weren't greased for him?

109 Everyone is blaming Justice Roberts for flubbing the Oath of Office. It was Obama who flubbed. He started speaking too soon before Roberts had said the first part, "I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear,...". Obama started speaking right after Roberts said Obama's name. I compared Obama's oath with Biden's and W's. Obama was wrong, but not that you will read that anywhere.

110 "Is it Kabbalah?"


No, it's "The Secret."

Idiots. Them, not you, SlaveDog.

111 Why were crowds following Obamboozle BEFORE he made the speech?

Picking up the Skittle-Shit from the unicorn he was riding.

112 Anyone know the names of the two Republicans who voted against Hillary?  It'd be nice to know the names attached to the only four testicles in the Senate.

113
It looks like Obama has benefited quite well on being the Token Black.

He wasn't qualified to be the head of the Harvard Law Review, he wasn't academially qualified to get into Columbia or Harvard Law, he wasn't qualified to be a US senator, and he sure isn't qualified to be president.

Obama had to steal the election with ACORN's help to get into the White House. He was only courted in the media because he's a Democrat Token Black.

114

All I want is those damned transcripts.  I want to see the faces of the worshipful when they see his terrible grades at Occidental which got him a transfer to Columbia where his terrible grades got him into Harvard Law.

This is key to O's success - I firmly believe that O has been constructing this ideal image for years and if everyone knew most of what really made this guy, his image would take a major hit.  

Re: O's academic record (and I really think that this is where those crafty diggers should start) is full of holes - big ones.  How does one attend Occidental while being an admitted pothead, get stratospheric grades worthy of transfer to Columbia?  Plausible but worthy of verification.  Now on to Harvard Law - one of hardest (if not the hardest) law schools to get into.  About 1 in 10 applicants get in - and keep in mind that your competing against the BEST in the nation.  Now when I applied to law schools about 10 years ago, most law schools constructed a formula based upon your LSAT and GPA - your GPA consisting of ALL of your grades until you attained your undergraduate degree.  So as a transfer student myself, I had to list every institution that I had attended so that a full accounting of my grades could be made.  So, how does this affect Obama?  He got into Harvard somehow, either because of his excellent grades, above 90th percentile LSAT or some other factor (AA) or some combination of the three.  I believe that O was an above average student but not a stellar one, otherwise he'd be floating around "with distinction" or summa/magna/cum laude everywhere to prove his academic chops.  

Finally, as for his Law Review schtick, most schools allow you to grade on (for those in the top 10/5/1%) or write on.  I didn't go to Harvard (how'd you guess?) but it sounds like he was elected w/o regard to grades or writing ability. My point with all of this is that O has been stroking his image for decades and his academic (and authorship) chops are but one part of a much larger fraudulent picture.  This whole thing would make a great book for someone with the balls to dig deep are ask tough questions.  Later.     

115

elected as the first black President of the Harvard Law Review

So, all through his life people have given him stuff based on his skin color. From a place in Harvard to the Presidency of the United States. And this is a sign of his greatness, how?

116
"Theodore Roosevelt published The Naval War of 1812 upon his graduation from Harvard. It's still pretty much the definitive history on the subject."

Let's see: Calvin Coolidge translated Dante. Thomas Jefferson wrote this thing called "The Declaration of Independence"; maybe Keillor's heard of it. James Madison, author the Federalist Papers and much of the Constitution. President Adams, father and son, were enormously accomplished and prolific writers. Abe Lincoln was known to chew the pencil now and again. And Ronald Reagan, God bless him, could write well, as the book "Reagan in His Own Hand" shows. Jimmy Carter has published a bunch of books - most of them crap, but still, he wrote them himself. Richard Nixon wrote an autobiographical bestseller, "Six Crises", before his election (though he may have had the help of a ghost).

And on, and on, and on ... proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Garrison Keillor doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

117

Why were crowds following Obamboozle BEFORE he made the speech?

Your story put me in mind of this movie quote:

"The speech is short. But it's the most rousing speech I've ever read. It's been worked on, here and in Russia, on and off, for over eight years."

118 Hey Keilor, you fuckin' hack, did the motherfucker have throat cancer when he wrote his memoirs at the ripe old age of 28?

Amen.  U.S Grant was not a good president, because he trusted his underlings a bit too much (sound familiar?).  But he was a great man an an American hero.  And, as was said, he actually wrote his own memoirs.  And he wrote his own memoirs while dying of throat cancer.  He was in excruciating pain. He couldn't eat or swallow, and he willed himself to complete the book in order to provide for his family.  His detractors called him a crook because of the actions of others,  but he must have been a pretty inept one if he had to finish his memoirs in order to provide.

119
Oh, and no one considers the NYT as a credible national news outlet. Everyone knows it's nothing more than a liberal rag.

120 Profiles in Courage was ghosted.  Why England Slept was not.

JFK was a legitimate author before graduating college. 

121 Keillor always was a partisan douchewhistle. He's like Bill Moyers, only more of a tool. I remember Keillor throwing major hissy fits in the 80s when Ronald Reagan implemented policies he didn't agree with, and he's only gotten worse.

Plus at some point, maybe during the Reagan years, he went to Sweden or some Scandi country with his wife who was from there and acted like he was going away for good, only to change his witless mind and inflict his fat ugly ass on the USA again.  He probably found that Scandi socialism couldn't hold a candle to the NPR transfer of money from productive citizens to douchetools with speech disorders.

122

Oh sure, on the surface it looks like Obamba hasn't accomplished much, but you forget that he has written under a Pen Name.  That pen name?  Danielle Steel.

123 I didn't go to Harvard (how'd you guess?)

Because I could actually understand the point you were making.

124 And what kind of hubris, what kind of arrogance, what kind of Messiah Complex, what kind of BALLS does it take for a guy to write not one, but TWO autobiographies  BEFORE THE AGE OF 45!?   Think much of yourself?  I think this should set off alarm bells.  Shit, even Hitler only wrote ONE by 45..

125 Because living in Cambridge for 3 years wears the sheen off of Harvard pretty quickly?

126 " I didn't go to Harvard (how'd you guess?)"


Because there were no uuhhh,uuhhh's or ya know's.

127 The truly sickening thing about Tappers stoogery about Barry "stepping down" into the Presidency is that it sets the template that he cannot possibly fail so any problem will be someone or somethings fault.
Very fascist move.

128

Since we all conceive he is the most sincere, intelligent and attractive president and nothing greater can be conceived, then he is in reality what we conceive him to be.

And Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, bravest man I've ever met.

129

Serious historian versus mastabutory fluff - Dude:  History is boring.  MSM will always prefer a load of splooge across the face, especially from The One, to actually having to read something that might have some substance.

This pathetic adoration business would be creepy if it wasn't coming from the usual bunch of sycophantic poseurs we are used to seeing spouting this shit about the next cool Dem politician.  Garisson Kiellor (whose taste is in his mouth) and Jake Tapper?  Fuck.  I may not be able to write as well as either of them (or in Kiellor's case, drone endlessly for hours about mundane small-town bullshit) but I can tell the difference between Jesus and Not Jesus.

130

President of law review=qualified to run the country

Ok

131 I assumed that Tappers remark was a joke. An intentional one.

132 Keillor is the reason "all the kids in Lake Woebegone are above average."  He alone brings the average down so far everyone else is above average.

133 Hell, some of the Presidential pets have been authors.  Ayers is probably having trouble picking the dog he wants to ghostwrite for.

134 Jesus Christ.  This pointless speculating about how he was picked to be the president of the Harvard Law Review is so fucking stupid.  Go to frontline.org and watch "the choice."

Frontline actually interviewed people (both conservative and liberal) who were on the review with him about his election of Obama to head the Harvard Law review.

He was selected because he was the only candidate both sides of the fiercely divided Review could stomach.  He was progressive, but at the same time socialized and enjoyed debating with the Federalist Society guys.  He is not an ideologue.  He was the lone pragmatist.

You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him.

135 I'm sure Obama received excellent grades at Occidental. Granted, I think he is a tool, myth, and fraud all rolled up into one, but he is no dummy. I believe he is hiding the course choices rather than the grades. Lots of critical theory-marxist-social justice-deconstruction-feminist type stuff probably littered about his transcript. Probably sought out the most radical of the radical professors as well, while lacking rigorous math and science courses. Just my guess, could be wrong...

136 And in other news, Dear Leader also amazing shot 18 holes in one in his first ever game of golf!  Is there nothing the Obamessiah can't do?

137

Consider the source. These are the same trolls stating about the Purple tunnel incident that "barracks going to be livid when he finds out" they stood in line and froze, paid all kinds of money and time and never saw The Great Pretender get botch his swearing in.

JJ and Chuckie M. would be proud of the level of brainwashing and denial Pres. Megalomaniac has inspired

138 Seattle slough, you said some stupid stuff and got caught. Don't be so defensive when you're wrong. It's best to admit it and move on.

And why are you so cranked up about it? Touchy-like?

139 Plus at some point, maybe during the Reagan years, he went to Sweden or some Scandi country with his wife who was from there and acted like he was going away for good, only to change his witless mind and inflict his fat ugly ass on the USA again.

I had forgotten about this.  Too bad he didn't get out and stay out. That way, he could at least have a claim of honesty.

140 Keillor always was a partisan douchewhistle. He's like Bill Moyers, only more of a tool. I remember Keillor throwing major hissy fits in the 80s when Ronald Reagan implemented policies he didn't agree with, and he's only gotten worse.

I don't understand who the hell cares what this socialist, Democrat Farm Labor, faux-homespun fop thinks. Or cares about anything.  Talk about exhibit A for eliminating NPR.  Although National Pussies Radio is a rant for another time. 

Oh hell - I'm sick of spending my tax dollars to support an archaic institution that mocks my values..... There is no reason, in this age of XM Radio, AM, FM, 1000+ cable channels, that NPR and PBS should exist.  Let them compete in the marketplace of ideas.  Or go out of business..

141 And Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, bravest man I've ever met.

Nice. Manchurian reference. So who is Ben Marco?

142
What a bunch of bullshit.

He was progressive, but at the same time socialized and enjoyed debating with the Federalist Society guys.  He is not an ideologue.  He was the lone pragmatist.

And what page did you plagiarize this from Obama's memoirs?

143 Posted by: seattle slough at January 21, 2009 05:29 PM (H5l9d)

Links to a signed review article he authored please (save your time, there isn't one).

It's great that people thought he would be fair and was a nice guy. However, that's not the same as being intelligent or evidence of his legal scholarship, is it?

144 And why are you so cranked up about it? Touchy-like?

It's time of the month.

145 He was selected because he was the only candidate both sides of the fiercely divided Review could stomach.

So it wasn't his frightening intellect then?  Shelby Steele had it right; Obama is a bargainer.

146 Sounds like bitter grapes.

Maybe if you spent some time writing something of substance instead of blogging to an audience of juvenile right wing circle jerkers you could have a book deal too.

Or do you expect life to hand you something without working for it?

Go ahead and shed your crocodile tears; I'm sure your buds here will stroke you and make you feel better, but it won't get you a book deal.

147

This is not some recent descent into hackery; Keillor always was a partisan douchewhistle. He's like Bill Moyers, only more of a tool. I remember Keillor throwing major hissy fits in the 80s when Ronald Reagan implemented policies he didn't agree with, and he's only gotten worse.

Keillor in many respects is even worse than Michael Moore. With Moore, you know you are getting agitprop from the get go, while Keillor, in his "unthreatening" way, always ends up bullying his audience.

148
...but he is no dummy

You're right.
The President of the Fifty-Seven States of America is no dummy.

149 Then why did you link to an article that refutes your own statements, SS?

You do that in court often?

150 TR, Wilson, Eisenhower, Kennedy (Sorensen or Mankiewicz), Nixon, Reagan all authored books before becoming POTUS.

chsw

151 The One's life is so interesting, so filled with accomplishment, that, at the age of 45, it took TWO memoirs to contain it all!

Actually, that's accurate if you insert "to himself" after "interesting".

Can we please dispense with the ridiculous idea that being editor of the Harvard Law Review is in any way a qualification to be president?  All it really means is that he's accomplished at blowing pretty smoke--and that he met a lot of people of the type that can help a brotha' get ahead.

Crowds following him around BEFORE the '04 speech?  Really?  An unknown Illinois state senator?  That just screams "manufactured" to me.  Probably ACORN members or something.

The whole Obamanon strikes me as a package that was prepped and sold.  Unfortunately for us, 52% bought it.

So who was behind it?  Soros?  Ayers isn't smart enough to pull that off.

152 The saddest thing is not that people like Keillor, Seattle Slough, etc. believe the Obamythology -- they're idiots; whaddaya expect?  It's that sane, rational, bright people also buy into this.  I've been in a running e-discussion with some friends of mine over the last few days wherein I point out that according to their "logic" I'm nearly as qualified to be president as Obama -- I went to an Ivy League school, I smoked some pot in my youth, I can deliver an absolutely magnificent speech if a team of professionals writes it and puts it on a teleprompter for me, and I have exactly the same number of articles published in the Harvard Law Review as Teh One.  These comments are consistently ignored.  Ugh.

153
Or do you expect life to hand you something without working for it?

This is rich coming from a leftist piece of shit Obamaton.

154 You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him

Yeah and you're soooooo well informed because you watched Frontline; and I'm sure you'll watch some Ken Burns sociology fluffer posing as "history" at some point about the "gravitas" of yesterday.  I think you're really Ace's sockpuppet because nobody could be such an obvious parody of an Obama salad-tosser and exist in the real world.  Even as a lawyer....

155

Then why did you link to an article that refutes your own statements, SS?

You do that in court often?

Slouch is the stutterer in My Cousin Vinnie.

156 #140, that is the major reason I remain pissed at Newt to this day. He promised to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts. and he pussied out. They had the votes. Our taxes pay for programming that mocks and villainizes us.

157 mare:

The article says no such thing.  Obama was selected in an election of his peers.  The Review selected their own president in 1990.  If you are suggesting the Law Review selected him because of race, I am assuming you either were on the 1990 Harvard Law Review or must have talked to several people who were.

Otherwise you are talking out of your horses ass.

158 You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him.

That's the trouble, slough. No one knows a fucking thing about him. Our supposed guardians of the public trust in the MSM are aggressively incurious about Obama's early life and accept, virtually without question , every statement his publicity managers feed them.

We'd know a lot more, except all the MSM's investigative resources were too busy dumpster-diving in Wasilla and in Joe the Plumber's tax records.

159

Maybe if you spent some time writing something of substance instead of blogging to an audience of juvenile right wing circle jerkers you could have a book deal too.

What did Obama write of substance before he got his book deal?

What did he write of substance after he got it?

 

Or do you expect life to hand you something without working for it?

Exactly. We expect to have all the strings pulled for us that were pulled for Barry. We expect to be awarded a spot in an Ivy League school based on our skin color, and then to be given a book contract to write about ourselves.

160

You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him

You guys know a lot about him and choose to ignore it or lie about it.

What you don't know is what his records say about his time at Occidental or Columbia.  What we do know is that he refuses to release them along with his orignial  birthcertificate.  We also know that he had the most liberal voting record in the Senate. We know that he voted for legislation that allows for babies to be left in linen closests to die. We know that he had a relationship with Bill Ayers far beyonod what he admits.  We know that he had a relationship with a racist separatist preacher far beyond what he admits. We know he had a relationship with a subsequently convicted Rezko who did a quid pro quo property purchase.  We know that his wife got a 200% raise after earmark requests were made by Obama for her employer.  We know that you will suck his cock no matter what he does because thats who you are. A loser.

161 accept, virtually without question , every statement his publicity managers feed them.

And ignore when its different than it was a week previous

162

Surely, The One can deliver a memoir at the tender age of 28, having been out of college for, oh wait, he was still in Law School.

Yeah, that's because the $40K book advance was how he <i>worked</i> his way through Haw-verd.(snicker)

163 Note to Jake Tapper: You can get up off your knees now, The One is all through. And don't forget to use a napkin.

164 _{132 Keillor is the reason "all the kids in Lake Woebegone are above average." He alone brings the average down so far everyone else is above average. --- Posted by: JorgXMcKie at January 21, 2009 05:28 PM (nMT31)}

actually, Dick Cheney is the reason

 

-

sigh - I miss his Dark Lordship and his twice daily mind-control messages

165 Seattle slough, would you please link me to a scholarly article written by Obama?

That would be great, thanks.

166

so I think she'll work her ass off 

I don't think that's possible...  have you noticed the size of that thing.

167
Obama was selected in an election of his peers.

They *had* to select a black token. Obama was probably the only black token on-hand at Harvard Law, at the time.

The election was a farce, and you know it. Just like the 2008 election was a farce with millions of illegitimate ballots cast thanks to ACORN.

168

You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him.

Fair enough- because nobody knows a fucking thing about him.  Thanks, MSM!

The fact remains that few if any Presidents have been elected with such a lack of meaningful accomplishment.  Not that his lack of accomplishment prevented him from writing two books about his favorite subject- himself.

169

You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him. NO FUCKING SHIT, SEATTLE SHERLOCK!  And neither do you.  That's the whole fucking point of nearly every complaint about Obama that us "wingers" have raised from day one.  He's just accepted as the Risen Christ by half of the country without a serious vetting by the national press.  Nobody really knows what his inner beliefs are, or what he plans to do (well, other than implement every wrong-headed liberal idea from the last 60 years that have already proven to b eutterly worthless) or how he plans to accomplish anything.  He just IS, and so we all have to fall at his feet. 

OT, but classless:  Biden Takes Shot at Roberts re Oath.  Really, Joe.  Never take a shot at someone who has been empirically proven in numerous studies published in mainstream peer-reviewed national scientific journals to be exactly 3.71 x 10³⁷ fucking smarter than you are.  Not uncoincidently called "Biden's Theory of Relative Stupidity."

170
"You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him."

He's a Chicago hack who's very good at knee-to-the-groin politics - and being a lifelong Chicagoan, I him and his breed well. He voted "present" 130 times. He claims to have written two books. He gave one well-received speech in 2004. He's given to wildly overblown hyperbole. He makes wildly reckless promises. He sat in the church of a ranting, foam-flecked-lips racist for a thousand Sundays, and felt right at home. He's a colleague and friend of a man who tried to murder American servicemen. He's accomplished next to nothing in his career, and the nation made him the first affirmative-action president because the media said that we could all put a gold star on our report cards if we did. Fuck, I feel like I'm living "Being There".

171 And just because again you all seem to have difficulty discerning my point:

It is neither shocking nor unusual that Obama got a book deal out of law school considering that his rise to the presidency of the Harvard Law Review was nation news.

I never suggested (nor would I) that being president of the HLR makes one qualified to be president. 

172

That's it leftards. Keep turning him into Jesus, Lincoln, Washington, Obi-Wan, and the genie from Aladdin.

The fail is going to be epic. Unfortunately, we can't confine it to the blue states.

173 About Obama's two books.

Many books require no thought from those who read them, and for a very simple reason; they made no such demand upon those who wrote them.
Charles Caleb Colton (1780 - 1832), Lacon, 1820

174 Question, Seattle slough, do you think race had anything to do with Obama becoming head of HLR?

175

These are the same trolls stating about the Purple tunnel incident that "barracks going to be livid when he finds out" they stood in line and froze, paid all kinds of money and time and never saw The Great Pretender get botch his swearing in.

 

Many of the people Stalin sent to the concentration camps were feverently convinced that if the Great Man only knew of the plight, he'd intercede on ther behalf. They died praising his name.

Lefties being abject morons is the oldest story in the world.

176

Seattle,

I tried to find the long article written back in around 2003 in - I think - The Atlantic about Barack's selection/election as Harvard Law Review Editor.

The most disturbing thing about the report wasn't the process.  It was the net effect of Obama's term as editor - basically nobody involved with Him [sic] in the Law Review could cite any particular action or decision He'd made during his time.  They just ... felt ... good about that time, though nothing had actually changed.

Go figure.  btw - this is a good faith recollection of the article.

If I can find the cite I'll post it.

177

Well, at least the liberals are finally ready to admit that JFK didn't write Profiles in Courage.  I guess that is a start... but the Messiah as our first author President..  Kind forgot a few big ones.

Jefferson did lots of writing in his day... He even wrote this little thing called the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.  But I guess that didn't count.

Lincoln wrote probably two of the finest speeches in the English language (the Gettysburg Address and his Second Inaugural), but I guess that doesn't count either.

178 Seattle Slough, you are absolutely right.   I for one know very little about the man.  Could you point me to his college transcripts so I may learn exactly how super smart he is?  After that, perhaps you could get me the un-redacted CAC volumes to see exactly what he did for Chicago schools in  the late 90's until 2002.  Then, I guess you could point me to the interviews with the man that dealt pot and cocaine to him during his youth.  Maybe Tony Rezko or Blago could provide character references. 

179 And I'm still waiting for my link to his scholarly articles.

Thanks, again.

180

Bart @ 148...

No, he does not possess a Marilyn vos Savant type IQ, and yes, he will continue to make all kinds of funnies when he speaks off prompter, but I think we're kidding ourselves if we believe his IQ is not solid. Say 140+...

But like I said, he is a tool, a fraud, and a myth. He loves himself and he loves to be loved. I don't think any President since Carter has so obviously loved being praised. Even Slick. His IQ isn't what will gives us years of laugh material, but rather the fact that he can't help but believe in his own myth.

181 Isn't keillor dead yet?

182

That's right.

Obama is already a god and when he fails to deliver on every single one of his promises, there's only one way to go...

DOWN

down

^down

183

The article says no such thing.  Obama was selected in an election of his peers.  The Review selected their own president in 1990.  If you are suggesting the Law Review selected him because of race, I am assuming you either were on the 1990 Harvard Law Review or must have talked to several people who were.

That's the point Slough - O holds out his HLR creds as if it were awarded based upon merit - it wasn't since he was selected by his peers - basically it was an election and he won.  I'm not arguing that his selection and subsequent membership on the HLR should be minimized, just that when it's touted as a sign of his superior intellect, then that's awfully misleading because that's not how he got it.  

184 The first woman to serve as the Harvard Law Review's president was Democratic political operative Susan Estrich. Now I understand. Like the Nobel prize this is a liberal ata boy!

185

_{It is neither shocking nor unusual that Obama got a book deal out of law school considering that his rise to the presidency of the Harvard Law Review was nation news}.

People more familiar with the publishing business than you would disagree, Seattle.  In terms of the size of the book deal, the author's publishing record, the type of deal, and all those other details.  Plus Barack, having taken the advance -  changed the proposal and had to write the book out of the country several months late.

186 IQ 140?   ha ... I'd bet it is more like 105-115 ...

All this ... "he is so smart" seems more about cover for observations that "he really doesn't seem so smart"

187

It is neither shocking nor unusual that Obama got a book deal out of law school considering that his rise to the presidency of the Harvard Law Review was nation news.

It's shocking and unusual that the president of the Harvard Law Review is so embarrassed by his school records that he keeps them a secret. It's shocking and unusual that such a person even gets to be president of the Harvard Law Review.

On the other hand, he's got that whole black skin privilege thing going for him.

188
...but I think we're kidding ourselves if we believe his IQ is not solid. Say 140+...

Yeah.

No.

First of all, people with genius-level IQs go onto the sciences. Those with average IQ's go onto law school.

Like I said before, Obama is a clever son of a bitch who could sell stupid to Nancy Pelosi.

189 That badly-sutured jumble of walking body parts known as Garrison Keilor is even more of an embarrassment to Minnesota than Al Franken.

190

And just because again you all seem to have difficulty discerning my point:

It is neither shocking nor unusual that Obama got a book deal out of law school considering that his rise to the presidency of the Harvard Law Review was nation news.

Perhaps the bourbon killed too many brain cells, but I fail to remember this hitting the national news.  I'd be surprised if it was anything more than a one-day story on the middle page or a 15 second blurb on TV news.

The first black man on the Space Shuttle made more news.

191

Isn't keillor dead yet?

Only from the neck up.

192 OK, all of this ass-raping of seattle slough is jolly good fun and all, but we need to get back to the subject at hand, which is, namely, is Garrison Keillor

a) an untalented partisan hack?
b) a talented partisan hack?
c) an historically illiterate choad?

or

d) what you get when Alan Colmes has unprotected butt sex with Helen Thomas?

193

Keep trying to convince yourself seattle that his book deal was not unusual.  Its doubtful that there any record of something similar ever happening before or after Obama's.  

194
Well, to be fair, and we all want to be fair, Obama probably could score a 140 IQ...

on an adjusted IQ test for minorities. I mean, that's how he got into Columbia and Harvard, right, on a curve?

The problem now is that the American people don't grade the presidency on a curve.

195 It is neither shocking nor unusual that Obama got a book deal out of law school considering that his rise to the presidency of the Harvard Law Review was nation [sic] news.

Really?  Let me lay two hypotheses out there for you:  one, publishers publish books in order to make money. Two, for there to be a reasonable expectation of a book making money there has to be a market for it. 

If you'll grant me those two premises -- ya know, for the sake of argument -- then please explain to me who exactly the market is for the book of a 28 year old kid who'd done nothing but edit the Harvard law review?  Even if every Harvard Law alumnus in the country bought it for the sake of the Old School Tie (or whatever), would it justify the expense of publishing a book?  Would it justify a substantial advance? 

That one doesn't pass the smell test, SS.

196

Bonus: Jake Tapper of ABCNews writes: Obama is the first President since Washington to step down into the presidency.

I was a bit surprised by that. Tapper is one of the few mainstream journos who have been relatively level-headed through all this.

197 The first black man on the Space Shuttle made more news.

And yet NASSA is ignored

198 OregonMuse - d) is the correct answer unless you have e) all of the above

199 And the People just lap up the drippings seeping from the fundament of the Dear Leader, whimpering, "please....give me more seepage to savor, Oh Great One..".  It's gonna be a long four years.  We have to think of a way to make their heads explode. 

I know what I'm gonna do...  Get a  Dick Cheney TATTOO.   Can you imagine the spittle-flecked rage, the stroke-inducing bile, that'd be instigated walking through, say,  downtown San Francisco with a big, honkin' tattoo of the Great Darth Cheney on your bicep?  I might even get another tattoo of our Dark Lord's cock on my other arm....although it would have to be reduced in scale, but that goes without saying, of course.

200

Sue: "Clinton didn't "write" his book.  He told the story to someone who then "wrote" the story. "

True, Sue, but at least Bill had ACTUALLY done stuff.  Important big stuff.  And as far as I can recall, he didn't "step down" from Gov of ARK to President.  Twice.

Seattle Slough, usually I ignore you like background noise, but I am a news junkie and I have absolutely no recollection of BHO's ascension to the Editorship of HLR.  Link it up for me--on what front pages was that tidbit?  

201 Please, if we are at all curious about Obama's tenure with the HLR, go here:

http://tinyurl.com/6nvz7w

This has excerpts from interviews with people who served on it with him.  Don't take my word for it.  Read what Bradford Berenson had to say.  He was associate White House Counsel for President Bush.

202 Last night I really thought, okay, he's in now, it's a done deal, we can just relax and pray that he doesn't completely destroy our country.  But, just catching up on the posts here, I am sickened all over again. 

And Tapper's comment really sends me over the edge . . . this impostor is "stepping down" into the Presidency of our country?????  My fuckin' head is exploding, I cannot stand it.

203 ushie, look up at number 77.

Ignore the fourth one, it's a rick roll.

204 Keep in mind that Keillor said Obama is the first genuine author-president. Was Thomas Jefferson genuine? Do you know anybody who ever met him? Didn't think so.

205 Ouch ! Seattle If I told you once I've told you a thousand times, careful with the teeth.

206 Slough,

since you can't seem to discern my point I'll rephrase it for you: even if BHO were the greatest editor the HLR ever had, the fucking Solon of Cambridge, who in the world would buy a book about it?  How can you possibly claim his deal is neither shocking or unusual?

207 You know that Hollywood is just aching to put out the Obama campaign story but can't until his 12, nay, even 16 years of presidency are completed once that pesky constitutional amendment is removed.

208 I really want to read his final year dissertation, and any articles he may have written in the course of being a professor/community organizer/senator. Michelle Obama's final year dissertation was a joke, all the secrecy about not releasing any critical work that Barry has written makes me very curious - either they reveal too much about his predilections or they are crap pieces of scholastic work.

209 I still say IQ of 140. I don't think it is a stretch, and it is far from spectacular. A little over 2 SD from the median, so like 1 in 100 smarts.

As for what the guy has done, other than supposedly authoring 2 books and running for the next office, I have no idea. A Lexis search of his formative years turns up 2 things... a little spiel on NPR attacking Charles Murray over one of his books on intelligence/social policy. The other... the infamous mini-review of Bill Ayers's book. I admit my lexis-fu is not strong, but I'd love to see what anyone else could turn up. Slough is a lawyer right? Probably has access...

210 Bubba @ 160:

BULLSEYE!

211 I'm looking forward to reading Obama's next scholarly tome:

On Wings of Libtards:  How I Became Tha Prezzidizzle

Just like the HLR election, this one was all about appearance and nothing to do with substance.

This empty suit ran like it was a fucking junior high election, promising longer lunch, less homework for everyone and no more sloppy joes in the cafeteria.

And sword-swallowing cumdumpters like Seattle Slough ate up every spoonful.  Selected in an election of his peers?  Making fucking scramby eggs for the house while a roomful of condescending, white-guilt toting douchenozzles who selected him because he's black treated him like Aunt Jemima.  Which coincidentally, these same liberals tagged Condi Rice (a woman of REAL accomplishments) as.

The irony is so thick it should be made into a Dave Chappelle skit:

"Barack, we want to make you part of history as the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review.  Now cook me some eggs and cut the crust off my toast, n*gger."

212
Did you know that the current president of Harvard U is a very stupid woman by the name of Drew Faust who only got that position as amends for Larry Summers' politically-incorrect hate-speech?

Drew Faust launched Harvard Sustainability, a project that makes the Harvard community green. It's all she thinks about and talks about. She's obsessed with this silly project and because of it will probably drain the university's endowment.

Drew Faust is a perfect example of a person getting an important job not on qualifications, but on tokenship and politics.

213 We do know he's a bad poet

214 "People were being marshaled into waiting areas for each train to Washington, each of us with a Commemorative Train Ticket with a picture of Himself on it..."

Notice the capitalization of himself? These people really do worship at the altar of media bias.

215 "You don't become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability. Barack was at the very top of his class in terms of legal ability. He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits."

-Bradley Berenson - associate White House counsel 2001 - 2003

216 But his doodling is fair to middlin'

217 Off subject. Great article about Barrack and the oil addiction line he uses incessantly.

http://tinylink.com/?83LR807tDe

218 The average man is IQ 100 ... average black is (controversially)
15 points lower than whites (?)...

Obama's half brother lives in a hut and is good with his fists ... or something like that ...

219 Bart,

I have no doubt her politics are stupid (she's an academic, after all), but Drew Faust is an excellent historian.

But since that's off-topic, let me add:  worst! president! EVAH!!!

(Hey, that actually feels kinda good.  Maybe those moonbats were on to something)....

220 Obama, Our First Genuine Author-President

Well, thanks to him we now have Hillary, our first female Secretary of State, too!

/moonbat

221 It would help if the Republicans embraced George W. Bush's legacy, instead of distancing themselves from him. I think we saw how well that worked out...

The Republicans need to be forthright about the fact Bush succeeded remarkably in many ways.

The economic “mess” we now face was the long term result of economic policies that began with Carter, accelerated under Clinton, and President Bush tried, at least in part, to change. It was Obama’s party that refused to listen.

I don’t know what great things Obama supporters expect a political neophyte with the slimmest resume in American presidential history to accomplish. But I doubt his record will rise to the level of liberating 50 million people from the most vicious regimes imaginable in Iraq and Afghanistan, or saving millions in Africa with anti-AIDS and Malaria initiatives. I certainly pray he’ll match President Bush’s record of keeping America safe from terrorist attack, but his nomination of a man with about much experience to be CIA Director as he has to be President is somehow not reassuring.

I seriously doubt that Obama is capable of the sheer class President Bush exhibited throughout his Presidency, but particularly in his farewell address at his homecoming reception in Texas yesterday. President Bush truly exhibited "malice toward none," if indeed we must evoke President Lincoln.

People forget how unpopular Truman was, for many of the same reasons some now hate President Bush so strongly: a leader who made the tough call to take the country into an unpopular yet necessary war, that 40 million South Koreans today should be grateful for. And yet Americans today deeply respect President Truman.

Many thought of Kennedy as very “charismatic,” yet history shows that in many ways he was a mediocrity. A man of almost as little experience as Obama, he nearly stumbled the world into thermonuclear war with Russia with his disastrous performance at the Bay of Pigs and meeting with Kruschev. We may all pray that Obama does better than that, at least.

I have little doubt that President Bush will be remembered as a great President, who rose to the great challenge of our times. He valued principle and doing what was right more than personal popularity. The content of President Bush’s character will be far more important to posterity than the color of Obama’s skin.

222 He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits."

So, was he 'selected' or 'elected'? Which is it?

223 Every day I wonder why the first black president couldn't have been Thomas Sowell.

Life is just not fair.

224 Flenser--

So, all through his life people have given him stuff based on his skin color. From a place in Harvard to the Presidency of the United States. And this is a sign of his greatness, how?

It's not a sign of his greatness, it's a sign of the heartfelt sympathies for the colored folk by The White Masses (TM). It's the people who elected who think themselves nifty for doing it. The Big O has got (almost) nothing to do with it; he's just a vessel for their self-flagellation and redemption of our sins. That's why it's got this religious cult feel to it.

225

was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits."

-Bradley Berenson - associate White House counsel 2001 - 2003

What merits? The merits you mentioned above Seattle which had nothing to do with his legal mind? You must be a piss poor lawyer.  And one that doesn't seem to have much work seeing that you have time to shit all over this site.

226 You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him.

I blame the media, that abdicated their First Amendment rights, in order to suckle the cock of Obama.

And I also blame liberal shitstains like yourself that enabled them.

227 testing

228 YEA! I'm unbanned! YES YES YES. Ok, now what are we talking about?

229 "You don't become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability.

Yes, you do.

Fuck you and Bradley Berenson.  You think because he's part of the Bush Administration that's gonna settle it? 

News flash, asshole - most morons here are satisfied with just one aspect of the Bush presidency, and it's a big one:  stacking dead fucking jihadis like Lincoln Logs and keeping the rest so robe-shitting terrified and on the run that they don't have a chance to get up to mischief here.

The rest of his agenda was a fucking disaster.  Including hiring Bradley.  So fuck off.

230

Byzantine, the five-star generals of WWII were Marshall, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Arnold, in order by date of rank. Arnold's rank flipped to the Air Force in 1949 when they split off and became an independent service. Bradley got his in 1950. I'm not a Bradley fan.

Google it because I hate tinyurl.

231 Seattle you did it again, after reading your link, I'm convinced he charmed people but where are his incredible "legal mind articles"? "Brought people together"??? Was a lefty buy knew he had to listen to the right??? WTH? WHAT DID HE WRITE? WHERE ARE THEY? If he was brilliant those articles would be all over everywhere by now. Why can't we read his "scholarly" articles????


Seattle, have you heard Obama's interview with a female newsie in Chicago. Obama was discussing the flaws of the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. He was sophomoric. If that was the skill in debate that Obama wowed the HLR selection committee with than he's a bigger joke than I thought


I'll look for the link. I think Ace has them in archives.

232
Drew Faust is an excellent historian.

Come on, man. She's no Doris Kearns Plagiarizer Goodwin.

Faust is an *excellent* historian in her little academic circle of historians of women's studies, maybe.

233 You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him

He's an arrogant pencil neck son of a whore and Marxist who has a stuttering problem, he likes to attack old white women, millions of brain dead people worship him, he believes in big government, he's married to a tranny, he has no accomplishments to his name except winning political office and then doing nothing while in that office and we're stuck with him for the next four years. What else do you know about him that we don't besides his cock size.

234 I didn't drink before now but with all of the crap coming from liberals right now I am seriously considering it. On a completely different note Dick Morris has a great write up today in The Hill™ about how Obama is going to turn our country into a third rate copy of France.

235 And, to put a finer point on it:

If Barry F'n BlagObama is such a Wile E. Coyote- level S^oo_oo^oo_pe^r- _ge^ee_ni^uu_ss^s, how the fuck did Mr. SuperIntellect manage to not do a motherfucking thing of substance except get elected to successive public offices where he, again, accomplished nothing of note?  Where does this faith in his reformative destiny come from, considering he's never accomplished a farking thing  up to this point?

236 It would help if the Republicans embraced George W. Bush's legacy, instead of distancing themselves from him.

Word. It was embarrassing to see them running for the tall grass every time Bush's name was even mentioned.

I think we saw how well that worked out...

The Republicans deserved to lose.  Disloyal crapstains. Fuck them all sideways.

237

Fuck, I feel like I'm living "Being There".

But does he like to watch TV?

238 Techie--

I spent a few hours in the Chicago Public Library trying to find something, anything written about the O before he ran for U.S. Senate. There was some publicity about the first book (the one that Ayers ghostwrote). But there practically nothing about his legislative accomplishments (or lack thereof), even in the Chicago Defender (the black paper). The only thing you will find is a little stuff about his dust-up with Lu Palmer, who original vacated her seat and anointed him successor. She tried to take it back and he wouldn't let her. Just think where we'd be if she had, or if Peter Fitzgerald had run again, or Jack Ryan's divorce records had stayed sealed, or if Mike Ditka had run, or, or.....

We live in interesting times when Chauncey Gardner can actually get elected to the presidency. Will there be growth in the spring?

239 Bart,

actually her field is Civil War history, and she really is quite good at it.  Again, I'm sure her politics are moronic, but you can be a political idiot and still be good at other stuff (Sean Penn is a pretty good actor, for example, though a political moron of the first water and a shitstain of a human being to boot).  I'm just sayin.'

240 "for this to work we all have to believe in him. If you not trying to believe in him you are part of the problem."

What is he, fucking Tinkerbell?

241 mare:

Obama only wrote one six page comment on fetus rights. 
It can be read here: 

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_case_comment.pdf

242 Bradford Berenson:  Absolutely right, absolutely right. I think Barack took 10 times as much grief from those on the left on the Review as from those of us on the right. And the reason was, I think there was an expectation among those editors on the left that he would affirmatively use the modest powers of his position to advance the cause, whatever that was. They thought, you know, finally there's an African American president of the Harvard Law Review; it's our turn, and he should aggressively use this position, and his authority and his bully pulpit to advance the political or philosophical causes that we all believe in.

Well how can you be not be elected for political reasons and also be a disappointment to those on the left who voted for you? I only hope he continues to disappoint those on the left.

243 Plus at some point, maybe during the Reagan years, he went to Sweden or some Scandi country with his wife who was from there and acted like he was going away for good, only to change his witless mind and inflict his fat ugly ass on the USA again.  He probably found that Scandi socialism couldn't hold a candle to the NPR transfer of money from productive citizens to douchetools with speech disorders.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 21, 2009 05:22 PM (ZW5eD)

The Scandi's probably thought he was just another big, fat, ugly, loudmouth 'Mericunt douche and wanted nothing to do with him and/or ridiculed him. He probably served to reinforced their euro-fag stereotype of the Ugly American.

I'm guessing a similar fate befell his little New York sojourn. He thought he was too sophisticated for the Midwest, but the Manhattanite literati and hipters rejected him because he's such an insufferable douche/ dork/ tool/ ugly fat fuck. And then he moved back here to MN and was such a fucking pain in the ass that his whole neighborhood hates him. A local radio guy spent some airtime on his feuds with his neighbors (usually over the most trivial shit) and he really, really sounds like a big stinky asshole.

244
Yeah, but isn't it Chicks During the Civil War and the Shit They Did studies?

Look, she's an academic, a historian, and she was selected to run a university. Drew Faust knows about as much as running a corporation as Joe Biden knows about foreign relations.

245

Obama only wrote one six page comment on fetus rights. 
It can be read here: 

I didn't read it but did he mention whether he prefered linen closets or maintenance closets?

246 The only thing I dislike more than Obama is sockpuppets. Die Die

247 Please note that Geo. Washington, US Grant and Black Jack Pershing were also considered Generals of the Army even though they did not wear 5 stars.

248

I was a bit surprised by that. Tapper is one of the few mainstream journos who have been relatively level-headed through all this.

How was it not a level-headed comment?  He's absolutely right- when was the last time a deity with millions of worshippers became President?

249 mare:

Obama only wrote one six page comment on fetus rights. 
It can be read here: 


That's been discussed here before.  And his name was not attributed to it. 

"Brilliant legal mind?"  The word you're looking for is "undistinguished."

Tell me, what cases did the brilliant legal mind argue?  This is what you're hanging his reputation on?  A car crash case where the husband is suing his own insurance company on behalf of the unborn child killed in it?

Wow, you must be a fearsome litigator.  Here's another question for you:  how would a fucking retard like yourself even recognize a "brilliant legal mind?"

Would you even look up from your coloring book or stop gluing macaroni on construction paper if it walked in the room?

250 True enough, I suppose, but you've just described 99.9% of all university presidents right there.  I'm really not trying to pick a fight with you, man -  I guess I'm just saying that whatever else you can accuse her of, she ain't stupid. 

Honestly I find that intelligence -- at least as measured by IQs -- really doesn't have much to do with politics anyway.  I'd even be willing to buy the claim somewhere upthread that BHO has some gi-normous IQ (although I personally don't believe it).  Being stupid in the "missing a few IQ points" sense doesn't make you a liberal; willfully blinding yourself to evidence and common sense does.

[Faust's first bigtime book -Mothers of Invention - was about women on the Southern Home front, yes, but she's also written The Creation of Confederate Nationalism and This Republic of Suffering, which is about the experience of death in the Civil War and is really superb].

Oh yeah, and Keillor's a douche.

251 209: I still say IQ of 140.

That "click here to test your IQ" web ad I saw the other day claimed Obama was 125.

I saw it on the web so it must be true!

252

Sorry to break in,

jack murtha wants to hold Gitmo prisoners in his district. Flight 93 crashed in his district by the way. I got this from Redstate.

253
Obama wrote that? Hmmm, he must have forgot all about that when he told Rick Warren that things such as when life begins in the womb is beyond his pay-grade.

Surely Obama could have shared some insight when unborn should be protected as a citizen since he supposedly wrote an opinion on rights of the fetus?

254 A question for the Legal hawks in here. When Obama talks of an era of personal responsibility what does he mean? When I read about it in other places it does not seem to mean what I would think.

Robin West, now a professor and associate dean at Georgetown Law Center:
Obama "clearly agreed with me at the time that a shift in constitutional thinking from a rights-based discourse to one that centered [on] responsibility and duties ... would be a good thing," West told Politico. "Partly because of those conversations, I don't find it surprising at all that Sen. Obama's speeches are often marked by calls to spark a sense of responsibility, rather than a sense of grievance."

That classically liberal approach was hardly the mainstream of legal academia at the time

255 Empire:

This quote:  "Brilliant legal mind,"  where are you getting that from?  I never said it.

And if you meant "first-class legal mind" I didn't say that either.  Berenson said that.  He would probably know better than me (or you).  After all he was on the Harvard Law Review with him.

256 Bart:

Yes because the question of when life begins and the question of what legal rights do fetuses have to sue their parents for negligence ARE exactly the same.

With all due respect your honor, perhaps you could have one of your clerks do a little better job briefing the subject matter for you. 

Wait, you're not a judge.  You're an idiot.  Your comments in the thread are a sorry list of you talking out of your ass and being flat wrong.  Over and over and over again.   

257 "first-class legal mind"

See, here's where I think liberals and conservatives fundamentally disagree.  Libs think that's a compliment; to a conservative, being a "first-class legal mind" sounds like being "a crack whore with a good work ethic."  Both are quite ingenious in finding ways to fuck people, in other words.

258 The Obama of 1990 resembles the Obama of today. Totally trying to play it safe in his HLR article. Unsigned, brief, and not controversial. Will be interesting to see how he handles actually having to make a tough decision. I guess he can always blame Bush...

BTW, Keillor is not a very pretty man. I'm not going to be walking the catwalks in Paris anytime soon, but that guy is one strange looking cat.

259 223 Every day I wonder why the first black president couldn't have been Thomas Sowell.

Life is just not fair.


The answer is easy.  Americans are spoiled and want the easy answer to be the right answer, when in fact the right answer is usually that which is the hardest thing to do.  Thomas Sowell espouses making the tough choices as the right course.  Barack Obama came along and dished out  a delicious batch of "I love you, you love me, I can get you stuff free".  Game over.

260
Point taken, bullfrog. My point was that if Drew Faust wants to go on to become POTUS, it would be a sham to use her PC selection as prez of Harvard U as a qualification.

Oh, and the only thing I really disagree with you on is Sean Penn. He's a shitty actor and an awful screen presence.

And...

Faust's first bigtime book -Mothers of Invention - was about women on the Southern Home front...

Heh. Yeah, Shit that Chicks Did When Men Were Buildin' and Creatin' Stuff.

hahaha, just kiddin. I'm sure a lot of women had important roles in history.

261 I went to an Ivy league university too.  And hey, I even smoked some pot and did some blow in my day.  My pecs are for shit and i'm a bit of a sallow lad, but still, I could run this great nation of ours.

Seriously though,  the same dickheads that are sucking off the one today ridiculed  Palin and said she wasn't qualified to be VP.  Bunch of fuckin losers.

262 It's YOUR thesis that he was (s)elected based on his legal acumen.  You've been asked to provide evidence of said acumen. 

In response, you posted a quote from Bradley Berenson, and that lame-ass unattributed article about the car crash case.  That is the sum total of your argument that Obama was not a feel-good appointee for the HLR.

Now cook me some fucking eggs and I'll write you a recommedation.  Maybe.

263 That was the sum total of his big scholarly articles. What a pretender. I thought you would eventually come up with volumes from this guy....considering he's "written" two books.

Oh boy, I'm pissed. I wrote some excellent stuff, eight to ten pages, footnoted etc., in one night that is more intellectual than that. Hey, Harvard give me a call. Forget it, I'm white.

264 Bart,

I get you, man (well, except on the Sean Penn thing, but since I find him so personally repellent I ain't gonna argue it).  And I'm totally with you about Faust being a PC appointment, and God forbid anyone should parlay a PC appointment to a university presidency into the presidency of the United States (in fact, Woodrow Wilson did that, and look how that turned out -- as messiah-complexed as Barry O'Guiltwhite, as racist as Jeremiah Wright).

265
Yes because the question of when life begins and the question of what legal rights do fetuses have to sue their parents for negligence ARE exactly the same.

And you claim to be a litigator? Are you fucking kidding me, you don't see the connection?

He opined on the rights for the unborn, yet cannot even offer an opinion on when life begins. Doesn't the whole 'rights for fetuses' argument hinge on the premise that life begins in the womb?

266 Posted by: seattle slough at January 21, 2009 06:40 PM (H5l9d)


I want you to do us and yourself a favor. Walk up to the nearest brick wall and start pounding your head into it.

267 I've really enjoyed this thread.

SS: you've accorded yourself relatively well for a person of your evident limitations. Now go away and finish your kool-aid. You can get back to me in four years with a fist full of "I told you so."

I really do enjoy right-wing circle jerks... so sue me.

268 #7: Hey, Jesus only lived to be 33 and the most important part of the World's Leading Bestseller is about him.

Yeah, but did he write it himself when he was only 28? I'll bet not!

#58: I read his 'memoirs' and was not impressed - angst driven fiction was what I thought at that time!

Yay, we've got our first emo president! I fully expect Oprah to soon have a special on the benefits of listening to My Chemical Romance and cutting oneself.


#134: You guys really don't know a fucking thing about him.

Leave Barry alone! (Waahhh!!)

269 "We now know what the Repubs are going to be like. Hillary confirmed 94-2."

Perhaps you missed ch ch chia and wife's appearance the other day where it was divulged that ch ch chia had the choice of VP or S of State.

Say what you want about cankles, but I damn sure would prefer her over biden to be our S of State.

Best keep that vapid blue toothed walking toilet brush locked up in the naval observatory, please.

"This pointless speculating about how he was picked to be the president of the Harvard Law Review is so fucking stupid."

Correct. But what isn't fucking stupid is speculating how we was picked to be presinint of my fucking country, you ignant cockholster. That's right, cockholster- cockholster, cockholster, COCKHOLSTER!!!!!

By which I mean you, seattle cockHOLSTER!!!

eh, we're number 1.

270 Speaking of circle-jerks... just out of curiousity, has anyone browsed the comment threads at places like Kos in the last two days?  I wonder what those guys have to talk about now that the Chimperor is gone and we're in the Age of Aquarius.  And have they gotten their damn unicorns yet?

271 Bart:

No.  It has to do with the law.  Chickens are alive, yet have no capacity to sue.
So the question of whether a fetus is "alive" at the moment of conception says basically nothing about whether they have standing to bring claims in State and Federal courts.

Run along Bart.  It's like my hands are getting tired of punching you in the face.

272 SS: Humans ain't chickens. Punch yourself in the face.

273 Run along Bart.  It's like my hands are getting tired of punching you in the face.

This from the dude who's been getting pimp-slapped all up and down a nearly 300-post thread.  Dude, if you really are a litigator God help me if you're ever my court appointed defense attorney.  I think I'll just ask for the lethal injection on the spot and save some time.

274

In addition to Jefferson's Declaration, Madison's Constitution, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, TR's 1812 , Wilson's Dante, JFK's Profiles, Carter's speeches for Arafat and Reagan's hundreds of hand-written and self-researched radio commentaries, both of the Adams were writers.

John Adams wrote Stamp Act essays and other Revoloutionary writings. And his famous "Defence of the Constitutions..." in 1789, not to mention his letters to Jefferson.

Quincy Adams wrote rebuttals of Paine,  the Monroe Doctrine, the Amistad briefs and kept a diary his entire life, which was long--he knew the Founders AND Lincoln.

Garrulous Keister doesn't know his blabbing ass from his, well, garrulous keister.

275
Chickens are alive, yet have no capacity to sue.
So the question of whether a fetus is "alive" at the moment of conception says basically nothing about whether they have standing to bring claims in State and Federal courts.

Hahahahaha. That is stupidest thing I've ever read on the blogosphere.

276 "for this to work we all have to believe in him. If you not trying to believe in him you are part of the problem."

"What is he, fucking Tinkerbell?"

AmishDude, thanks for the inspiration.

http://___.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/402139/tinkerbarry.jpg

277 No.  It has to do with the law.  Chickens are alive, yet have no capacity to sue.
So the question of whether a fetus is "alive" at the moment of conception says basically nothing about whether they have standing to bring claims in State and Federal courts.

It's called the "next-friend" doctrine, dumbass.  And parents exercise it all the time to bring suit or exercise rights on behalf of their children.  If the fetus is alive, then it is an infant.  And if it is an infant, then it's parents can file suit on it's behalf. 

FUCK, you're stupid and you suck at your job.

Run along Bart.  It's like my hands are getting tired of punching you in the face.

I'm sure your little bitch hands ARE tired from typing all this utter stupidity.

278

#100: God DAMN you straight to the blazing fires of hell, Garrison Keillor.

I know, Ushie, but do us all a favor, please: Don't invite Garrison Keillor to any discussions even remotely theological. If you think the remark that started this thread is insufferably stupid, well . . . .  I know.

Anyway, here's hoping that Jason Voorhees has taken up residence in Lake Wobegon.

279 Grant's memoirs....I keep meaning to read them, but my only copy is a first edition. No WAY I'm tossing one of those volumes into a backpack.

280

If he was brilliant those articles would be all over everywhere by now. Why can't we read his "scholarly" articles?

Hey, that's a pretty fucking good question, ain't it?  Considering every time he fills 30 minutes with hackneyed cliches the MSM pronounces him a genius, I am very surprised at that.  Actually there is a simple answer: Obama is a fraud, a smooth-talking con artist that has never accomplished a damn thing in his life except learn how to use the "clean black" image to bamboozle white liberals, while yucking it up in the pews for 20 years with the black version of Robert Byrd, only this one is still unrepentant and still doing the work of the devil.

And listen, it is redundant to say "So Bloviates Garrison Keillor".  That's like saying "So Stinks 50 Pounds of Elephant Shit".

Finally, I think if you read Keillor's article it is pretty obvious that the whole expereince was all about him being around black people and being able to feel like he had really done some great thing for them.  Fucknozzles like him actually think they have a mission to atone for the misdeeds of those who are not so enlightened as they are, and oh do they love to make sure everyone notices them doing it.  This bullshit about "do unto others..." that most good people practice on a personal level just doesn't gin up the required number of photo ops for your average professional liberal renta-conscience like Keillor.

281

I can't speak to the full details of Obama's adventure in publishing, but there's nothing suspicious about this part:

A 28-year-old law student gets written up in the newspapers, then gets a call from a literary agent? She calls him?

The agent then signs this 28-year-old nobody -- whose only credential as an author is student law journal stuff -- with Simon & Schuster. Hello? In what alternative universe does this happen?

At the time in question, Jane Dystel happened to be my agent. She would frequently track down people who had been profiled in the news and suggest that they do a book. I doubt she does this anymore, since she has become one of the biggest agents around, but back then, she did take this approach. I even suggested one or two possible news stories to her (I don't know if they led anywhere).

I think what made it possible for her to get Obama a deal with Simon & Schuster is that not only was he the first black person to serve as editor of the Harvard Law Review, but also he had a complicated and unusual background as a mixed-race child growing up in Indonesia and Hawaii. The story would have had human interest appeal.  

The news item that brought Obama to Dystel's attention was a long profile that appeared in the New York Times. Manhattan-based agents and publishers are fiercely (I would say slavishly) devoted to the Times, and I have no doubt that the Times profile gave Obama an imprimatur that opened the doors to both literary representation and a very generous book deal.

Obama's later action in dumping Jane Dystel so he wouldn't have to pay her a 15% commission on the lucrative resale of his book (after his convention speech) was highly unethical and suggests, to me, that he is a user, a manipulator, and an opportunist. But of course most politicians fit that bill.

282 Empire:

"If the fetus is alive, then it is an infant." 

Did you really just type that?

Um, if the fetus is alive, it is a fetus.  If it is dead, it is a corpse.

A fetus becomes an infant at the moment of birth.

283 A fetus becomes an infant at the moment of birth.

Or not even then in the mind of St. Barack.

284

#215 seattle slough at January 21, 2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

"You don't become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability. Barack was at the very top of his class in terms of legal ability. He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits."

-Bradley Berenson - associate White House counsel 2001 - 2003
End quote.

 OK, riddle me this, SS:

If Bradley’s correct in his appraisal, why is it that

1. BO’s record of court cases is almost non-existent (there is that ACORN case . . .)

2. BO’s work record as a lawyer (not his teaching work) is equally shrouded in mystery

3. BO seems to not currently have a license to practice law (does anyone know for sure?)

4. BO seems to have spent his time as an Illinois State Senator accepting credit for the bills of others, and no one can seem to find any piece of significant legislation attributable to BO himself.  His US Senate record seems not better

The earlier post on this thread indicating a link suggesting that BO was selected as Harvard Law Review Editor  because he was the only palatable selection to most sides looks like the truth.

Looks like many people were bamboozled and hoodwinked.

 

285 Empire:

"If the fetus is alive, then it is an infant." 

Did you really just type that?

Um, if the fetus is alive, it is a fetus.  If it is dead, it is a corpse.

A fetus becomes an infant at the moment of birth.

Wrong again, dummy.  If it is alive, it is an unborn child.  Not a chicken, not a platypus.  It would be a human being at it's earliest stage of development.  There is no possibility that it could develop into any other type of adult mammal..

If it is recognized as a child, born or unborn, it is possible that a court would grant the father standing to sue on it's behalf

I know you're too stupid to follow this, so it's mainly for everyone else's benefit.  Incidentally, this is the very issue your affirmative action HLR appointee was too much of a pussy to tackle.

Now, you were saying something about chickens, sooper jenius?

286 I could face-fuck you all night, sweetness, but I gotta take care of something for a few hours.  I'll make sure to carb up before I get back.

287 I'm a writer, and I teach writing at the college level.  And there is no doubt in my mind that Ayers did Obama's homework for him. 

The change in voice is startling, and the book has the "Bennington voice" all over it-- Bennington, where, incidentally, Ayers got an MFA.  If Obama had turned this in and I had other writing of his which was purportedly original, I'd have this in the dean's office in a second under plag charges.

288 Another author-president was William Howard Taft, who served as president of the American Bar Association and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court after he left the presidency. Taft wrote a number of books, including Liberty Under Law, Popular Government, and The President and His Powers.

Benjamin Harrison also published a book after he left the presidency titled This Country of Ours.


As others have said, Keillor doesn't know what he's talking about.

289 If I'm following SS's logic correctly, he's saying that the 'life' of a fetus is more like the life of a chicken than the life of a human being. But at the instant the head emerges from the birth canal, a non-human fetus is magically transformed into a human person.

The people defending slavery had more logical rigor in their arguments.

290 Empire;

Thanks for the biology lesson.  What was I wrong about again?  Your pointless semantic insertion of the words "unborn child" does not make anything I said wrong.

Whereas your statement that a live fetus is an infant is the most asinine thing I have ever read.  If a living fetus is an 'infant,' then why have the term 'fetus' at all? 

You lost this argument several comments ago.  Why you keep returning to it is a true mystery.

291

This is just more Cult-of-Personality wishful thinking.

Obama has written ten or twenty autobiographies and no legislation. Most people accomplish things first and then write them. He wrote first and still hasn't accomplished anything.

He was elected because as Biden said, "he's clean and articulate, the dream, man". Enough Americans wanted to vote for a black man and Obama seemed okay, having learned to mask his leftism.

He didn't fix the communities where he organized--in fact, he later teamed-up with the slumlords. He didn't help education a bit while working with Ayers at the Annenberg Foundation. All he did was give Republican money out to Ayers' Commie pals. He left no mark in state legislature or in the Senate, both of which he got to by getting judges to release divorce records of his opponents.

He can be all things to all people because he has never really been anything to anybody.   

292 flenser:

You are not following anything correctly.

293 I'm stunned that Jake Tapper wrote that.  He's usually pretty sane.

I guess he's got the fever, too.

294 Yay, we've got our first emo president! Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 21, 2009 06:56 PM (vLf8O) LOL, I hadn't thought of that. Very astute.

295 fe·tusPronunciation: \ˈfē-təs\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful — more at feminineDate:14th century : an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind ; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth

296
Speaking of pointless semantics...

It is absurd to consider an unborn baby in the womb of 5-month pregnant woman any less of a person than a prematurely-birthed (at 5 months) baby.

But according to shit-for-brains, they only achieve the status of "human" when extracted (live) from the womb. Until then, they're only fetuses, which is not a human. It's a fetus. Not a human. Fetus.

297
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298 ¹chick·en Pronunciation: \ˈchi-k^ən, sometimes -k^əŋ\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English chiken, from Old English cicen young chicken; akin to Old English cocc cockDate:14th century 1 a: the common domestic fowl (Gallus gallus) especially when young ; also : its flesh used as food — compare jungle fowl b: any of various birds or their young

299 "Please note that Geo. Washington, US Grant and Black Jack Pershing were also considered Generals of the Army even though they did not wear 5 stars."

U.S. Grant's rank was Lt. General: he held the office of "General-in-Chief," which was succeeded by Chief of Staff of the Army around 1900.  Washington and Pershing both hold the theoretically "six-star" rank of General of the Armies, plural, not General of the Army (five-star).  Pershing was still alive when the five-stars were appointed during WWII, and the distinction was a nod to him.  Washington was "promoted" to General of the Armies for the bicentennial, with a retroactive effective date of rank of July 4, 1776, so that no US military officer would ever be his senior.

300 Chickens are alive, yet have no capacity to sue.

At present

301

Obama is out of his league.

Many of our Presidents were intellectuals in their own right. The Constitution is recognized as a poltical masterpiece. The examples mentioned in this thread demonstrate the intellectual prowess and acheivements of our Presidents. Obama by contrast has done nothing. Each one of you have done more with your lives than Obama has.

The truth is that Obama offers nothing that remotely resembles the level of acheivement of ant other President.

302

Here they go providing cover again, McLain writes; "Mr. Obama’s original plan was to write a book about race relations. But, sitting down to write, he found his mind "pulled toward rockier shores." So the book became more personal —"

The original text before editing read, "...sitting down to write, he found his mind pulled to rocks and whores . . ."

The guy's a crackhead and that's how he met his wife.

303 Bart:

In your unborn fetus scenario, suppose the child to-be has resident alien parents who travel abroad.  Shall we assume that the baby will be born in the U.S.? 

In what State does the unborn infant reside so that we may determine whether or not venue is proper in a particular jurisdiction?

How can you establish that a five month old fetus will ever be born?  Or would have been born without some particular negligent event?  And where? 

What would the burden of proof be to establish that the Fetus was actually alive prior to the negligence?  Do you want to institute Conception Certificates? 

I never said a fetus isn't a human fetus.  But it is not a child.  It is not a citizen.  And it is not a resident of anywhere.  That is the way the law interprets it and to interpret it any other way creates an incredibly intrusive and unenforceable system.

Do you want every miscarriage investigated as a potential homicide? 

The traditional view of personhood is people that are born.  That is how it always has been. 

Are you suggesting that if my girlfriend gets an abortion, I can somehow (without a death certificate because there is no birth certificate) start a probate and name myself as personal representative of the estate of my dead unborn child, and then sue my girlfriend and her doctor for wrongful death?

304 I don't know about you guys, but I think embiggening my own life story would be a lot easier that writing a book on race relations. 

305 SS
You are not following anything correctly.

Does that mean you think that a human fetus is human after all?

306

SGT Dan, you are correct and thank you. ISTR some admirals also had five stars.

Brown Line, I knew Coolidge was a good Latinist, but had never known that he translated Dante. In my opinion, the smartest man ever to hold the office, and that includes "when Jefferson dined alone." (JFK's pretty good joke).

These have been fun comments, but we should leave Obama out of this one. It's about Keillor, who really deserves a daily drubbing. Oh, and Tapper.

"Author-President" shouldn't include those who wrote after they were in office, or just memoirs. Eisenhower published "Crusade in Europe" in 1948, then was president of Columbia University. It was a best-seller: it's pretty good. Nobody knew what party he'd choose--he'd been a soldier all his life. The general opinion was that he'd have won either way. The "stepping down" thing.

I saw him once. I was in the second grade, and he came out our way to go duck hunting.  He was the last man to conquer Europe, which puts him in a pretty exclusive club. Hitler, Napoleon, Charlemagne, Julius Fucking Caesar, and old Ike. And Charlemagne couldn't write.

307 I never said a fetus isn't a human fetus.  But it is not a child.  It is not a citizen.  And it is not a resident of anywhere.  That is the way the law interprets it and to interpret it any other way creates an incredibly intrusive and unenforceable system.

There's your problem. You're talking about what the law currently says. We're talking about what science says. And science says that the thing in a pregnant womans womb is a human being.

308 That is the way the law interprets it and to interpret it any other way creates an incredibly intrusive and unenforceable system.

Has Public Law 108-212 been repealed?

309 You have a girlfriend? I'd put my money on a chicken-baby.

310 The traditional view of personhood is people that are born.  That is how it always has been.

It's amusing to see SS turn into a staunch defender of tradition, on this one issue. Somehow I doubt that "marriage has always been between one man and one woman" is an argument which he's used to making.

311

#306 comatus

With all due respect, the point here is Obama. People like Geillor say this stuff to legitimize someone who is undeserving of the comment. To prove him wrong is to put both in their place. Obama may be President, but he is not the best this country has to offer.

312 Are you suggesting that if my girlfriend gets an abortion

Posted by: seattle slough at January 21, 2009 08:18 PM (H5l9d)


No, but I'm suggesting your mother should have had one. And what are your thoughts on unborn unicorns? On second thought never mind.

313 I guess I screwed that guy's name pretty good.

314 toby928 @ 304: NICE

em·big·gen·ing Pronunciation: \ˈemˈbig-gen-ing\ Function: verb [trans.] increase the power, status, or wealth of : an action intended to embiggen the Frankish dynasty.
• enhance the reputation of (someone) beyond what is justified by the facts : he hoped to embiggen himself by dying a hero's death.
ORIGIN mid 17th cent. (in the general sense [increase, magnify]).

315 flenser:

But we ARE talking about the law.  Welcome to the party.

nutmeg:

No, I have a wife.  But I used girlfriend because you can't really sue your own wife.

316 How bout divorce? Just sayin. And I'm a LAYman.

317 I think we're kidding ourselves if we believe his IQ is not solid. Say 140+...

I doubt it.  A John Kerry'esque mid 120's would be my guess.

318
But it is not a child.  It is not a citizen.  And it is not a resident of anywhere.  That is the way the law interprets it and to interpret it any other way creates an incredibly intrusive and unenforceable system.


Public Law 108-212 Unborn Victims of Violence Act   alternately Laci and Conner's Law

Was it repealed and I missed it, or is SS full of shit?

Wiki notes that 34 of the 57 states have similar statutes.

319 seattle,

Is a fetus a living human being?

320 But we ARE talking about the law.

The law, as the left should know, can be changed. Slavery was once the law. Segregation was once the law. Prohibition was once the law. Being "the law" is not some sign from the gods that something is correct and immutable. Laws change all the time.

So what I'm saying is, fuck "the law". It's our servant, not our master. 

(This is all apart from the fact that your "law" was whipped out out of thin air by a few judges, in act itself in violation of the law. But that's a whole different injustice.)

321 including California obviously since Scott Peterson was convicted on two counts of murder.

322 Title 18, Section 1841 of the United States Code

...

(d) As used in this section, the term “unborn child” means a child in utero, and the term “child in utero” or “child, who is in utero” means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.

323 Seattle,

Since you don't have any brain wave activity can you be considered a living human being?

324 Toby:

As much as I think Laci's law is unenforceable and stupid, we are talking about two separate things.  Making a victim of something is not the same as allowing something to sue.

AGAIN, NOT THAT I AM COMPARING HUMAN FETUSES TO ANIMALS:

But you can make it a crime to harm a dog, that doesn't mean the dog has standing to sue the person who harmed him/her.

Laci's law makes it a crime to kill a fetus.  That doesn't grant a fetus the right to sue someone.

We are arguing past each other here.  The difference is I am staying within the realm of where this came from.  i.e. Obama's opinion on fetal rights to sue vs. his lack of an opinion on the issue of life at conception.

You and flenser seem to want to argue Roe v. Wade for whatever reason.

I'm bored (and heading out) and I think my initial point  (specifically that there was adequate basis for Obama to have been commissioned to write a book) has been adequately developed.

325

I just saw Sanjaya from American Idol on O'Reilly.  He's written a book.  He was called an "author" right there on screen.

So really, being our first "author-president" ain't saying much.

326
You and flenser seem to want to argue Roe v. Wade for whatever reason

Yeah, what on earth does that have to do with abortion?

My God, this guy's dumb.


there was adequate basis for Obama to have been commissioned to write a book

He was black and the NYT wrote a puff piece on him.  On it's own, being the subject of one of the NYTs opinion pieces is not usually enough to land a book deal.

327 Posted by: seattle slough at January 21, 2009 09:16 PM (H5l9d)

This is above your pay grade, junior.

328 I believe he is hiding the course choices rather than the grades.

I have always thought this also.  That, or hiding the fact that he was a foreign student.

329

I've googled Jake Tapper's quote and can't find it anywhere. Is this for real? Do I have to rigorously fact check not only the Deciders, but the righteous Army of Davids on every friggin' quote, lest my family and closest friends deem me a fucking loony-tune with a sun-dried brain living in the desert?

The reasons I come to Ace of Spades is to get:

1. Humor about cocksuckers.

2. Hump-back jokes.

3. Usually accurate opposition to the idiotarianism run rampant in our country.

Loose shit, perhaps?

330 seattle slough's cock

craves the touch of Barry's hand

fapfapfapfapfap



You got served.

331 Yes, that was going to be what I said next.  (After reading the whole thread.)

I, too, have googled Jake Tapper, and can't find this quote anywhere.

Where did it come from?

332 er, never mind.  I see that was corrected in a thread an hour ago.

333 Jake Tapper is not the biggest dope who ever drew a breath on this planet, just one of several working for the MSM in 2009.  Dan Rather Award?

334

Harry, you sure did, and more power to you.

Obama is indeed not the best this country has to offer. Among other nice things you can say about our system, its genius is that the various duties and offices can be effectively carried out by less than the best, and the nation will still prosper. So long as those less-than-best don't get any big ideas.

What is odious about Karrison Geillor is that fuhrerprinkip, the gosh-darn embiggening thing, trying to turn a really important civil-service job into godhood. And then worshipping at the shrine. Without bootlicks like that, there could be no Obama phenomenon. Oh, we'd still have unicorns, sure, but they'd be hitched up to plow. Without Obama but with bootlicks, you'd have the same drama with a different cast. Big Men with Big, Author-type Ideas.

Other than that, we agree completely. Now back to our previously scheduled abortion debate.

335 ya killed comments

336 Concerning whether Kennedy wrote Profiles in Courage or Sorensen ghosted it for him. Years ago now I read an account by an older journalist who had covered the 1960 campaign. He described one time Kennedy was meeting informally with some reporters in his home. He was asked about the true authorship of the book. He responded by pulling out a box and showing them the handwritten manuscript, clearly in his own hand. It was handwritten because when he was writing it his back was causing him so much pain that he could not sit for long periods at a typewriter and so had had to lie down and write on note pads. I've always considered that to be the definitive refutation of the ghostwriter theory. I'm sorry that I do not remember who told the story or where I read it.

337

I'm guessing a similar fate befell his little New York sojourn. He thought he was too sophisticated for the Midwest, but the Manhattanite literati and hipters rejected him because he's such an insufferable douche/ dork/ tool/ ugly fat fuck. And then he moved back here to MN and was such a fucking pain in the ass that his whole neighborhood hates him.

Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/tard at January 21, 2009 06:25 PM (IoUF1)

I'd completely lost interest in that barely-literate turd by the time this happened so I was completely unaware of this.  His life seems to be a series of going to places that he expects people to think he's this great artiste and fawn in his presence and when he gets treated like Blobbo the Fartsmell gets miffed at being an unappreciated genius and leaves.  I could see New Yorkers completely blowing him off.

I never found him at all funny but I realize that humor is subjective; he managed to attract some decent musicians to appear but nothing better than what I have tons of on cd.  He made his rep on a quirky take on "small town values" but his recent partisanship shows that to be a fucking lie and that he really looks down on those people.  A completely uninteresting cocksucker who can only exist thanks to commie radio.

338 flenser:

What does Roe v. Wade have to do with abortion?  Everything.  What does the comment Barack Obama wrote regarding a fetus' right to sue its own parents for negligence have to do with abortion?  Answer: Nothing.  Nothing at all.

The question of whether life begins at conception can be construed to be related to the abortion debate, but as I was pointing out that it has nothing to do with fetal rights to sue, it wasn't the topic of discussion. 

Pro tip for flenser:

Before you call someone stupid, it might be a good idea to know what the fuck the person was actually talking about.  Abortion never entered the equation until you put it there.  Then when I pointed out we weren't talking about abortion, you pointed out that Roe v. Wade had everything to do with abortion.  Yes, and that still has shit-all to do with Obama's law review comment.

Well played. 

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