Oh, Now They're Serious About The Border [Vinnie]

EL PASO, Texas – If Mexican drug violence spills across the U.S. border, Homeland Security officials say they have a contingency plan to assist border areas that includes bringing in the military.
"It's a common sense extension of our continued work with our state, local, and tribal partners in securing the southwest border," DHS spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said Friday.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who described the contingency plan in an interview with The New York Times this week, said he ordered specific plans to be drawn up this summer as violence in Mexico continued to mount.
The plan includes federal homeland security agents helping local authorities and maybe even military assistance from the Department of Defense, possibly including aircraft, armored vehicles and special teams to go to areas overwhelmed with violence, authorities said.
Kudwa would not give specifics on the so-called "surge" plan, but said it does not create any new authorities.

Gee, a "surge." On the border. With military assets.

Thanks, I guess, for finally figuring out the problem right before you all get fired by Obama.

I've got nothing to say except.. too little, too late.

Posted by: Open Blog at 02:34 AM

Comments

1 If there is one critical failure of the Bush administration other than spending it is the border. It drops Bush from pretty good to mediocre.

Posted by: Ken Hahn at January 11, 2009 02:47 AM (B9U5U)

2 Why does the story start out with the word "if"?

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2009 02:53 AM (hdcEI)

3 Those two issues alone drops him to pretty fucking terrible.

Posted by: pirate of the perineum at January 11, 2009 02:56 AM (pz0CV)

4 Pirate,
if you rank him as terrible, how can you define Jimmy Carter?

Posted by: Ken Hahn at January 11, 2009 03:04 AM (B9U5U)

It is going to get so bad so fast even the Dems will not be able to ignore it or do the whole "vibrant cross culture" thing for long. We are entering a time of profound economic turmoil and just like the 30's we are going to see an explosion of organised crime. This will make the old mafia seem nice by comparison.

Not that I expect the Dems to do this out of any sense of patriotism or the like. No thet will do just out of a sense of self preservation. People like Hillary, Reid and Old Big Ears will not share the power they have with anyone else. So in the end they will address the border issue, but not before a lot more people have died and a lot more Americans have been harmed.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at January 11, 2009 03:20 AM (ZuhVS)

Why does the story start out with the word "if"?

Because the media is a day late and a dollar short? I know what you mean, I just think that the ultra-educated are so full of social theory they've completely lost touch.

But what the hell do I know? I just work here.

Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2009 04:14 AM (hKtiw)

7 What a fucking joke. Mexican army routinely is caught on the US side of the border aiding and abetting the crime cartels. Jeezbus, our own 'leaders' ARE a crime cartel! Pussy Cartel. Follow the money.
Remember that child kidnapped in Las Vegas? Grandpa was up to his neck.
When are we going to get/take our country back??

ErikW.. How's that flu? Gone I hope.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 04:59 AM (/i4dU)

8 Oh.. Those NYT loans can't come soon enough. Rest in Hell.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 05:08 AM (/i4dU)

9 "Thanks, I guess, for finally figuring out the problem right before you all get fired by Obama."

How conviiieeeenient.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out where the press has been on this...but Obamas pecs or Harry said "Paki"?, lets cover that. ( please...please.. no one link to the hairy Paki chick.)..Pleease.

Posted by: Iggey Schnetz at January 11, 2009 05:21 AM (K9qui)

10 "We don't think we have a problem with violent elements at the border." said a customs official who agreed to speak off the record: "In fact, quite a few of the people coming in are quite religious. About one in three say things like 'Thanks be to Allah' after they are passed through the border check."

Posted by: Robert at January 11, 2009 06:16 AM (VotgB)

This is the bright side of the Obama administration.

Government assholes like Chertoff who have been refusing to do their job for 8 years, out of partisan hatred, might actually start protecting America and so forth.

Obama could order summary justice for drug dealers, and it would be hailed as as a great leap forward in criminal procedure.

Posted by: dustydog at January 11, 2009 06:17 AM (5u36L)

12 "Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who described the contingency plan in an interview with The New York Times this week, said he ordered specific plans to be drawn up this summer as violence in Mexico continued to mount."

In other news Chertoff also volunteered that he will soon be drawing up plans to handle natural disasters of large scale. Said Chertoff, "We think it's time to consider the effects of hurricanes and flooding, for example, and how the federal government might interact better with the state level." Mr. Bush applauded his Secretary's forward thinking.

Posted by: Fucking Obvious News Channel at January 11, 2009 06:22 AM (sI5Ho)

13 all i have to say is, they are smart fuck ups

Posted by: slizzle at January 11, 2009 06:56 AM (AMhGD)

14 Iggey,
Andi will love the pic if the prince licking and kissing is mate! Those Brits!

Posted by: Paki at January 11, 2009 06:59 AM (/i4dU)

15 Wait a minute: Re-locate Hamas and the Philistines to the Tex/Mex border and have them lob Qassam rockets over into Juarez. Sounds like a plan, eh?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2009 07:41 AM (9Cooa)

16 Wait, didn't some panty waists on our side (*cough*Hugh Hewitt*cough*) say it was Constitutionally impossible to deploy military on the border and that those calling for such things were crazy extremists?

Posted by: The Band at January 11, 2009 07:52 AM (QtRBc)

17 Didn't Homeland Security put a bunch (no idea how many) national guard members on the border not too long ago..

oh yeah. but withOUT weapons..

Posted by: Dave C at January 11, 2009 07:53 AM (bU9ij)

IF, hahahahhahaha

So when is the military going to start actually defending the border? Tyhe only people who have actually fought back were jailed.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2009 08:03 AM (f6os6)

19 Damn, we could fix this lickity split. AH-64's, AC-130's, M-1's. Border crossings would drop to zero overnight!!

Seriously, this has been one area that has pissed me off about this administration. Sucking up to Hispanics by not ENFORCING our own laws will not work!!! I don't care what Mc what says cost him the election. All we have to do is enforce current laws. Congress wouldn't have to do dick except put a boot into Homeland Security's ass. Eh, whatev. The next terror attack will come from across the border (take your pick they are both easy). South America is very friendly to Hizbollah, Hamas, AQ, etc. Only matter of time before they need to move our way and carry out something.

Posted by: CDR M at January 11, 2009 08:23 AM (TJoU6)

20 Ohhh, ze beeg Junited States theenks they can stop us from getting through...no wayyyy holmes. We're jus looking for our American Dreem...and our own Skeetles-sheeting Uneecorn...El Jefe promised us that!

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 08:49 AM (WQqt3)

21 Just stealing the jobs Americans used to have.

Posted by: bill-tb at January 11, 2009 09:00 AM (7evkT)

I think the big cities close to the border will get more protection when the D's in charge are not able to shake people down, due to the militant Mexican population having more power to protect than they do. ...a sort of divine justice.

That is as close to organized religion as I am getting today.

Go Eagles!

Posted by: ford at January 11, 2009 09:15 AM (Ki7fm)

23 2: They use the word "if" because it's conditional - essentially, as the violence increases, it will be "defined down" as the "normal" state of affairs. Within a few years, Libs will say there was always violence along the border and "it's hypocritical to demand a disproportionate response." "Insensitive" and "racist,"even.

See, I've imbibed so much BS PC Speak over the last 2 decades now, I can predict how Libs will talk before it even enters their pretty little heads...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2009 09:17 AM (iafWn)

24 Yes We CAN!

Posted by: Pablo the Drug Lord at January 11, 2009 09:19 AM (iafWn)

25 Got DOPE?

Posted by: Pablo the Drug Lord at January 11, 2009 09:20 AM (iafWn)

26 What about when we sent Pershing across Mexico's border illegally?

Hypocrisy!

Posted by: Typical Mindless Liberal at January 11, 2009 09:30 AM (iafWn)

27 El Paso/Juarez is the biggest community on our southern border. It's also the fourth largest manufacturing hub in North America.

El Paso is one of the safest large US cities. It always ranks in the top five.

Juarez is by far the most violent city in a very violent, deteriorating nation.

Find out what El Paso is doing and do more of that.

Also, I'm glad to see that Hidalgo County has opened up the ROE for it's sheriffs. Border counties have been applying for federal funds to help pay for more law enforcement because LEO "surges" have been proven to be effective.

Posted by: stace at January 11, 2009 09:32 AM (JO0c/)

28 We LOVE Pablo -- Pablo for El Jefe!

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 09:34 AM (WQqt3)

29 Pablo, Holmes, this is our turf.

Posted by: The Cali Cartel at January 11, 2009 09:35 AM (3Bqev)

30 30: Que? No hablo ingles!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2009 09:50 AM (iafWn)

31 Pooosh Uno for Ingleesh...Pooosh Dos for Espanol.

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 09:56 AM (WQqt3)

32 27: Thanks for the hot tip, Stace!

Whatever it is, it must be racist, exclusionary, and a human rights violation.

We bet they're profiling!

Thanks to vigilant citizens like you, we'll soon put a stop to it , whatever it is. Mexican drug gangsters shouldn't be targeted just for being Mexican!

Posted by: Your Friends @ The ACLU at January 11, 2009 09:58 AM (iafWn)

I say, Holmes, old man, a bunch of diegos are talking about you at Ace of Spades in the comments section. Shall I get out the Webley No. 2 .320-bore? We can pay José a little visit.

Posted by: Dr. John H. Watson at January 11, 2009 10:03 AM (55TIb)

34 33: Yes Watson! Aim it straight up their poopchutes!

Alimentary, My Dear Watson, alimentary!

Posted by: Holmes at January 11, 2009 10:08 AM (iafWn)

Glad that you're here, old chap. Did you read the Times today, Holmes? They had a fascinating article on the average educational level achieved by illegals in the United States. Do you know what educational level that was, Holmes?

Posted by: Dr. John H. Watson at January 11, 2009 10:20 AM (55TIb)

36 Elementary, Watson?

Posted by: Holmes at January 11, 2009 10:21 AM (55TIb)

37 32 -- Thanks to vigilant citizens like you, we'll soon put a stop to it , whatever it is. Mexican drug gangsters shouldn't be targeted just for being Mexican!

SI, SI...SI! ZE ACLU eeez our bes Muchachos! VIVA ACLU!

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 10:22 AM (WQqt3)

38 If that, even, old bean.

Posted by: Dr. John H. Watson at January 11, 2009 10:22 AM (55TIb)

Something for all you morons

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2009 10:24 AM (f6os6)

40 39

Something for all you morons

Oooooohhhh....zees two ghuys, zeh luke like Rayyyceeeeests!

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 10:31 AM (WQqt3)

41 The upcoming TX legislative session will see a bunch of immigration bills proposed, but I bet not many get passed.

http://tinyurl.com/9ejqr9

Posted by: stace at January 11, 2009 10:38 AM (JO0c/)

Noooo, esta es tu raceeesim

Posted by: Gang Member at January 11, 2009 10:46 AM (f6os6)

43 Will the troops be there to stop illegals or to stop the Minute Men and ensure an open border policy needed by large multi-national corporations ? It is my belief and hope that Americans will wake up and defend this country at some point . Our main threat is not Islam in the middle east , but insurgents from the south east . The numbers tell us more Americans are killed every year by illegals than those crazy Muslims . The media tells us Muslims are our enemies and Mexicans are our friends . I know ppl that have lost jobs and been victims of violence to illegals and the only people I know injured by Muslims are military over seas . When will we stand up and be counted ? Election day ? What a joke , 2 guys both for open borders , did we have voice ? I'm I the only one that was watching C-Span 2 last week when Robert Reich (Obama economic advisory committee) stated money going to infrastructure should not go to WHITE construction workers ? Imagine if he had said BLACK or MEXICAN construction workers . This is the world we live in .I'm ashamed not for what I have done , but for what I have not done. Am I off base as my wife tells me or sneaking a peek under the big top tent and getting a glimpse of the truth.

Posted by: Tom Swartz at January 11, 2009 10:49 AM (1qfI0)

44 If you read the article by Brit Hume on Fox News, Bush says he screwed the Republican's with his stance on the Iraq war and it will be a tough road ahead for the Republican's, "ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE SEEN AS ANTI-IMMIGRANT". Jesus H. Christ, you can be AGAINST ILLEGIAL IMMIGRATION and still be pro LEGAL Immigration. Gawd damn we have stupid leaders. Don't let the MSM frame the argument. Get tin their faces and challenge the narrative. Something Bush sucked at even when he got it right.

Posted by: CDR M at January 11, 2009 10:52 AM (TJoU6)

45 42

Noooo, esta es tu raceeesim

SI...SI. Ze press make MS13 out tu be malo amigos...eeet eees loco hablar!

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 10:57 AM (WQqt3)

46 Hmm, interesting coming out of El Paso where the El Paso Times reported that the City Council wanted to pass a resolution to legalize certain drugs thus curtailing the drug traffic.
Laughable...the mayor of the city decided to veto the measure.

Posted by: norman at January 11, 2009 11:02 AM (eerdu)

47 Forgot to mention that El Paso is where the two agents were thrown the book at by a serious jury.

Posted by: norman at January 11, 2009 11:04 AM (eerdu)

48 All quiet 'round here...

Posted by: MamaAJ at January 11, 2009 11:05 AM (X6Zdh)

49 Oops...while the drug dealer got less time, got free US medical care and then got caught again while Compean and the other agent rot in prison.

Posted by: norman at January 11, 2009 11:06 AM (eerdu)

50 Even if the drug violence doesn't spill over, ranchers are being literally overrun down in S TX. They're sick of all the vandalism, trash, and corpses. There's dead bodies everywhere. Can you imagine finding that on your property on a regular basis? It's only been really bad for the last 15 years or so. Before that, it was much more tolerable--there were fewer passing through, and they weren't violent.

I'd like to know what caused the change, and if there's any way to change it back (probably not). At the very least, they need more people patrolling down there, and they need to quit turning coyotes loose. The prosecutors aren't enforcing the law.

Posted by: stace at January 11, 2009 11:07 AM (JO0c/)

51 I was in your town a couple of weeks ago, MamaAJ. That's a HUGE new BP station there. There's a big new one in Sanderson, too. Border Patrol has been hiring so many people, the agents at the checkpoints look like they're all about 12 years old.

Posted by: stace at January 11, 2009 11:18 AM (JO0c/)

52 A double-slaying east of Colorado Springs on Thursday was the result of a gang-related clash over a stolen iPod, the El Paso County Sheriff's Office said.

The suspect, 19-year-old Juan Vasquez, was arrested on suspicion of the murders of two teenage males at a park in the Cimarron Hills area.

Vasquez is being held in the El Paso County jail on an immigration hold placed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, jail records show. He is due to appear in court Monday. An arrest affidavit is not available.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 11:19 AM (/i4dU)

Undocumented guest workers doing the Ipod killings that Americans just refuse to do.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2009 11:21 AM (f6os6)

And they are still advertising for more people!

I don't know what percentage of this town is military/police/BP/Sheriff's office/etc. but it feels like about half...

Posted by: MamaAJ at January 11, 2009 11:22 AM (X6Zdh)

55 We here at at Berkley have decided to give the Boy scouts a pass on their homophobic views because they agreed to create a new "Undocumented Merit Badge" for helping economic refugees help evade fascistic border patrols in Arizona. They set up water stands out in the desert, and troops leaders double as coyotes!

The badge comes without a certificate, of course.

Posted by: Typical Berkley Academic Idiot at January 11, 2009 11:26 AM (iafWn)

56 Yes, Colorado has the death penalty...for actual citizens. Mexico trumps that law for its citizens.
If a man sneaks into your home he is a burglar, not an undocumented tenant you must provide for!
Now I might be wrong but I'm not, we will face another amnesty fight with our "leaders" in gubmint very very soon. It's a shame but our gubmint is full of traitors and the sheeple keep sending the message that it's ok by re-electing the same old vermin. We're in a pickle.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 11:26 AM (/i4dU)

I had this ready for posting this morning when the “news update” comment column came out but it appears we are not going to have one so I will post it here.

Another one of those so-called fair and balanced reports this morning from Fox the Democrap representative waxed poetic about the “mandate” Obama had from the voters (we knew that was coming right) to enact his economic agenda. The Republican talking head instead kept referring to Obama’s leap to turn the U.S. to socialism. This is not the first time I have heard a Republican talking head refer to Obama turning the U.S. to socialism so I guess this is a party strategy.

I have news for these morons, the U.S. has been a socialist country since the 1930s and FDR. With the new movement into loss of private property rights and the bailout of the banking and other such programs we are now moving into full communism.

Another funny thing from the Republican talking head was the accusation that Roland Burris “bought” the nomination to the Senate from Blagojevich. At that the Fox anchor had to jump back hard and say that there was no evidence that Burris had bought the nomination. I found this ironic that the supposed “conservative” news network had to reply to what they perceived as an outrageous lie by a Republican and they never do that with the Dems or others. They didn’t even do that when the Hamas talking head said that they had not launched rockets into Israel before Israel started attacking them.

Update: The Fox talking head just gave a GA Republican congressman a blast of shit because he opposed the OBama spending plan. He got rather huffy when the congressman said that FDR’s plan didn’t help and actually hindered the recovery. It appears that Fox has taken the “speak no evil” about OBama stance.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2009 11:26 AM (f6os6)

58 55.. That's a joke, RIGHT??

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 11:29 AM (/i4dU)

59 53 - Undocumented guest workers doing the Ipod killings that Americans just refuse to do.

EEeeees jus mucho loco hablar!

Posted by: A Mexican at the Border at January 11, 2009 11:29 AM (WQqt3)

60 What ammo is in short supply now? 9MM? .45? .38?

Posted by: CDR M at January 11, 2009 11:29 AM (TJoU6)

61 Whatever happened to Operation Pipewrench???

Posted by: CDR M at January 11, 2009 11:31 AM (TJoU6)

63 I guess we can call this Chertoff's Asshole Awakening.

Posted by: PJ at January 11, 2009 11:35 AM (fyFnu)

64 The shot heard around the Internets has been fired on FreeRepublic dot com. The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President's 'guest worker' amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country. The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management's answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 11:38 AM (/i4dU)

We have been screwed on the scamnasty issue since the primaries were over. I blame the Republican Party and it’s arcane primary rules that allowed McLame to take it with only 30% of the vote and half of that cross-overs from the Democrats.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2009 11:49 AM (f6os6)

66 What's with this "Watson" shit? Where my bitches at?

Posted by: John "Long Dong" Holmes at January 11, 2009 11:52 AM (qsGH+)

67 On the bright side, I used to have to drive to find a filthy restaurant, a used car dealership, tejano music, or size 14 women in size 6 dresses. Now they're on every block! The Mexicans have really brought diversity to our country!

Posted by: Ted K. at January 11, 2009 11:55 AM (FM/Fl)

68 An aside--Anyone know where one can purchase Viagra cheap?

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at January 11, 2009 11:55 AM (oWAHQ)

69 Well, one of the wonders of having a democrat president is that suddenly national security is somewhat taken seriously.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2009 11:56 AM (yrMek)

70 68.. check out the recent comments sidebar >>>
Illegals trolling AoS? lol

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 12:03 PM (/i4dU)

71 Uhm. Michelle Malkin has a new story up about how PBS and NPR are looking for a bailout. Excuse me while my aneurysm finally blows. Maybe they should start a spanish version.

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at January 11, 2009 12:03 PM (e2mBS)

72

sickinmass:

But you can get away with saying anything at the KookStar if you're a Michael Savage fan.

Posted by: Tinian at January 11, 2009 12:04 PM (Ohodx)

73
There's about to be so much spin you're gonna think you're on the Tea Cups at Disney World with a Tequila hangover and a belly full of maple syrup and Skittles®.

"We need border security - it's gotten really bad down there!"

My guess is that they'll take the environmental angle and maybe the rape victims of the human smugglers.

Destroy the MSM and you help save the country. That's why a newspaper bail out is on the way.

Posted by: Dang at January 11, 2009 12:29 PM (Y5LIx)

74 Tinian,
Unfortunatly, Savage is always kicked off here by some sports broadcast.
I wish I could enjoy him more.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 12:33 PM (/i4dU)

Say what? IIRC, JimRob has never been shy about his dislike of illegal immigration.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at January 11, 2009 12:39 PM (wgLRl)

CDR M @ 44

I also saw where Bush said the party needs to stop being anti-immigration. How hard is it to put the word illegal after anti and before immigration. No wonder people think we are racists pricks. Shit, our own party paints us that way.

Posted by: Ginger at January 11, 2009 12:40 PM (nsb+C)

77 Bush is an idiot and nobody is paying any attention to him.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2009 12:46 PM (f6os6)

78 "Tribal" areas? Isn't Mexico, like, a real country with a central government and everything? What kind of hellhole has "tribal" areas? Next up, warlords and humanitarian aid and UN resolutions and coups for our civilized ally to the south.

Posted by: Ella at January 11, 2009 12:49 PM (jeP9I)

79

sickinmass:

I wish I could enjoy him. As I listen to Savage I'll agree with him for several minutes -- then he says something so stupid it makes me want to throw my radio across the room. He's the king of "glass parking lot" diplomacy, protectionism, tariffs and other paleocon rot that would make Pat Buchanan proud.

Anyways, the Savage fanboys over at the KookStar make some of the most vile comments and the mods don't care. I got banned for calling Bush the worst president ever -- two or three days after some Savage fanboy said the same thing. Savage summarizes his political philosophy in three words -- borders, language and culture, so I can't see any "purge against members that disagree with the President's 'guest worker' amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration". Well, not any fairhanded one. Because if they were to make such an across the board purge they'd have to ban almost all of the Savage fanboys and they're never going to do that.

Posted by: Tinian at January 11, 2009 12:53 PM (Ohodx)

"It's...common sense..."

Huh.

Posted by: exception at January 11, 2009 12:57 PM (o5wq5)

Pirate,
if you rank him as terrible, how can you define Jimmy Carter?

On domestic affairs - not as bad as Bush.

Posted by: MlR at January 11, 2009 01:18 PM (PLmsY)

82 Au Contraire, Pirate!

Jimmy started the practice of forcing banks to give bad loans. It's 2009, and we're still paying the price for having that Son of a Bitch in the White House for a mere 48 months.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2009 01:22 PM (iafWn)

83 Damn, we could fix this lickity split. AH-64's, AC-130's, M-1's. Border crossings would drop to zero overnight!!

I wish. Thanks to the long-term neglect of the border, we have a large and rapidly growing population of people from the other side of it. They are 14% of the total US population but something like 40% of young people.

Like it or not, they now have a "say" in how we run our country. And it is a large and rapidly growing "say".

It doesn't take a majority to severely affect national policy if a minority is aggressive enough and the majority is accommodating enough. Blacks are 13%, and look how much power they have. Homosexuals are 1%-3% and look how much power they have.

Dealing with this situation is going to be interesting, to say the least. Racial coalition politics, anyone?

Posted by: lmg at January 11, 2009 01:22 PM (A/vgC)

84 Chertoff (aka The Skull) has been incompetent since Day 1. His biggest accomplishment appears to be a color chart on national threat levels. Which no one understands or uses.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 11, 2009 01:32 PM (237hA)

85 79..Tinian,
It's all $entertainment$ to me. I enjoy the 'noise' while I go about my day.
And it's fun when a libtard is within earshot. Sparks fly.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 11, 2009 01:32 PM (/i4dU)

SWJ (small wars journal) has a good report on this..GEN McCaffery's report on the coming troubles to our south..

Link above.

As far as more aid to the south...we should totally control our border both ways - apparently not just cash but guns and pre-cursor chemicals head south. We control the people moving north, damage to commerce and Mexico's "social fabric" be damned.

No more aid of any kind. You must be kidding.

BTW everyone know what a cabron is? A cuckold who knows but does not act.

Posted by: Arif Jayish Al Amiriki at January 11, 2009 01:35 PM (Bd3sg)

87 Savage's godawful voice alone annoys the hell out of me, regardless of what he says. Somebody send that guy to a speech class.

Posted by: The Band at January 11, 2009 01:36 PM (QtRBc)

88 Better guard the Canadian border too. Don't want any smuggling of illegal French Canadians or contraband beer getting into the States ;-)

Posted by: Phil at January 11, 2009 01:36 PM (AOOwS)

89

Chertoff (aka The Skull) has been incompetent since Day 1. His biggest accomplishment appears to be a color chart on national threat levels. Which no one understands or uses.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 11, 2009 01:32 PM (237hA)

It was Tom Rigid who thought that one up.

Posted by: Tinian at January 11, 2009 01:37 PM (Ohodx)

Doom and gloom, boys and girls. The world's going to fall apart and you and your loved ones won't have anywhere left to run to. It's going to happen. I think that's what will finally wake folks up. When you've nowhere left to go, and you're being openly preyed upon everywhere, you've nothing left to lose.

It would of course be better to stand and fight now, but it won't happen. People want to believe things won't get worse. Of course they will. They always do. We're not immune to history just because we live here. I just hope there are enough smart folks left to pick up the pieces and start again.

Posted by: jaleach at January 11, 2009 01:42 PM (gHrZU)

Better guard the Canadian border too. Don't want any smuggling of illegal French Canadians or contraband beer getting into the States ;-)

Or Celine Dion.

Posted by: The Band at January 11, 2009 01:53 PM (QtRBc)

The plan includes federal homeland security agents helping local authorities and maybe even military assistance from the Department of Defense, possibly including aircraft, armored vehicles and special teams to go to areas overwhelmed with violence, authorities said.

Kudwa would not give specifics

Don't look for she who wears comfortable shoes to do a damn thing. She sent the National Guard to the border. What did they do? Changed oil in border patrol trucks and shuffled papers. Maybe they can open a lube and tune for drug runners and pay down the deficet?

Posted by: Azygos at January 11, 2009 02:01 PM (huYNN)

Wait, didn't some panty waists on our side (*cough*Hugh Hewitt*cough*) say it was Constitutionally impossible to deploy military on the border and that those calling for such things were crazy extremists?

There's already a significant military presence on the border. It's called Fort Bliss. We might ought to consider changing their ROE thouh.

Posted by: pendejo grande at January 11, 2009 02:47 PM (tlpWV)

Mama AJ and Stace,

Looks like you two might be west Texas oilfield trash. And here at Ace I thought that I was the only one.

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