WSJ Gives Equal Time to Asshats

Since its acquisition by News Corp., the Wall Street Journal opinion pages have been entertaining a wider set of views from the Left. Or, in this case a law professor so far left he's living in a different universe. Meet law professor George Bisharat.

Bisharat claims that Israel cannot currently be acting in self-defense because it did not suffered an "armed attack" immediately preceding its attack on Hamas. Consequently, according to Bisharat, Israel's war is a "war of aggression" and a "crime against peace." (Antisemitic Subtext: this is what the Nazis were prosecuted for at Nuremberg.)

He could not be more wrong. Hamas launched over seven thousand attacks on Israel in the past two years all with the aim of eventually destroying the Israeli state. Hamas' failure to follow through on its threats is irrelevant. Bisharat's lawyerly quibble that the attacks did not "immediately precede" Israeli self-defense is not found in international law. Hamas attacks were part of an ongoing quasi-military campaign against the state of Israel.

Under international humanitarian law (aka the law of international armed conflict), when a state of war exists between two parties, military action is justified. Bisharat would like to pretend that Israel is the aggressor and so makes this phony argument which assumes that hostilities did not exist between Hamas and Israel until December. He then comfortably blames Israel for starting the war. Paradoxically, though, he grudgingly admits that Hamas' thousands of rocket attacks, which preceded the Israeli attack, are "war crimes."

Well, which is it, Professor? Either a state of war existed or it didn't. Bisharat's disordered mental state appears to compel him to claim that a state of war did not exist for Israel, even as one did for Hamas. This is another lawyerly quibble not found in international humanitarian law---at least, not the laws on this planet.

Now, Bisharat purports to be a professor of law, but his specialties don't appear to include international humanitarian law. So perhaps he can be forgiven for not realizing that when weapons are cached, prepared, or fired from an otherwise non-military location, like a mosque, university, or school, that location becomes a permissible military target. Of course, this principle of international law is so well known that Bisharat's apparent ignorance is more likely attributed to bias and malice.

Similarly, he ignorantly claims that Gaza is an occupied territory because Israel controls Gazan airspace, coast and borders. Again, he simply has no clue about the subject on which he is speaking. Israel has control of its own border with Gaza, just as every sovereign power has control of its own borders. Israel has no obligation to open that border. Similarly, Egypt maintains control of Gaza's other land border. Bisharat's premise is, thus, faulty. As for the airspace and coastal control, both are justified by the state of war that exists between Israel and Hamas. (And, if you want to get technical about it, the PLO granted Israel airspace and coastal control in the Oslo Accords.)

In short, Professor Bisharat is ignorant or lying or both. But I appreciate that he chose to speak up, if only because he has now displayed his ignorance for all to see. We frequently hear that the U.S. Constitution is not a death pact. Neither is international humanitarian law. Do not let asshats like Professor Bisharat hijack either.

And while I'm thinking about it: This was the best they could come up with? Somebody gets the bright idea to present the Hamas side of things, but the best op ed they got was from Professor Laughingstock who had to make up his own facts and his own law? Sheesh. You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts, Doc.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 12:06 PM

Comments

1
This sounds like the same shit puked by the Left on why we could not and should not respond militarily to Al Qaeda's attacks on 9-1-1.

Posted by: Darling at January 10, 2009 12:13 PM (7pAan)

2 Israel's war is a "War of Knock it the Fuck Off, Guys"

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 10, 2009 12:14 PM (MKFU7)

3 And this is why I let my subscription run out last month. It has been drifting from neutral to supporting left views the last couple of years. The subscription person on the phone was incredulous of my opinion, which was just insult to the injury.

The entire industry is corrupted and tainted by leftists and deserve nothing in support.

Posted by: Ray at January 10, 2009 12:23 PM (ix3FU)

4 A lobotomy is required surgery to be a democrat. What babies they don't murder before birth have all common sense removed before they are released from the hospital.

Posted by: Scrapiron at January 10, 2009 12:23 PM (XWJh5)

5 Turds like this bag of shister dung should be placed in south Israel, where rockets from Hamas land. He should be tied to tree for 3 months and endure the daily rocket rain storm. Is this bag of bowel juice related to Senator Reid?

Posted by: Sparky at January 10, 2009 12:26 PM (J1f2W)

You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts, Doc.

I'm reminded of a line from an old PBS Mystery! series, Reilly: Ace Of Spies. Reilly was meeting a contact just after the Russian Revolution in Moscow, and that person was a lower level bureaucrat. Things in Russia were in revolutionary turmoil. Reilly was asking if a certain something (I forget what) could be done. The bureaucrat character replied: "Welcome to Bolshevia! Everything is possible!"

So, Welcome to Obamanation! Everything is possible, including having your own facts.

Posted by: RickZ at January 10, 2009 12:29 PM (7yEV+)

You DO realize all this is in keeping with the narrative, right?

I s'pose that halfassed is the best these butt-bags can manage, tho.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2009 12:31 PM (ud5dN)

8 I think it's becoming quite clear that attacks on Israel and blowing up and injuring and killing Israelis simply doesn't count as anything that's actually, you know, bad. I agree, it's nice to have people finally explicitly say that.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2009 12:35 PM (xUOXi)

9 Seven thousand rocket attacks in 2 years - I read ten thousand in 8 years. Whatever, Israel's response should be proportionate. Therefore, Israel may in good conscience launch 10,000 missiles at civilian targets in Gaza, without any warning. Preferably this weekend.

Posted by: lmg at January 10, 2009 12:36 PM (A/vgC)

I have no problem with the WSJ printing this. Better on the pages of the WSJ where it can be rebutted and mocked than to quitely grow like a mold in some little read leftist rag like The Nation or Mother Jones.

Expose this shit to the light. Disinfectant and all that.

Posted by: Lee at January 10, 2009 12:38 PM (TxTIh)

11 when a state of war exists between two parties, military action is justified.

Strangely, Saddam and Bush I never signed a cease fire. The state of war existed for the ensuing dozen or so years (including Iraq's attacks upon US and British planes). But, that is conveniently forgotten.

Posted by: Jennifer Aniston at January 10, 2009 12:39 PM (zH0BK)

12 Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Posted by: RB at January 10, 2009 12:42 PM (ewXBY)

Strangely, Saddam and Bush I never signed a cease fire. The state of war existed for the ensuing dozen or so years (including Iraq's attacks upon US and British planes). But, that is conveniently forgotten.

Odd, I thought that I had read that the Coalition Nations had signed a cease fire with Saddam's Iraq. His repeated violations of the no-fly zone and refusal to allow inspections was one the legitimate justifications of the Bush43 invasion in 2003. If they had just pushed this point more, and dropped the WMD thing, they would have more effectively neutered media criticism.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: Log Cabin at January 10, 2009 12:50 PM (1xm+6)

14 Sounds like the WSJ is pulling a Pat Buchanan -- find the loopiest kook you can, and use them as an example of the ideology they supposedly represent.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 10, 2009 12:50 PM (FGCYs)

15 All of the media, all of it FOX included, is proving by their silence on this CNN hoax that Walter Duranty is not simply a mistake from their past. He is alive and well and in control of every major news room in the United States, and they all know it.

Posted by: The Obvious at January 10, 2009 12:57 PM (1g+FW)

16 Quick question:

If Israel offered to turn off the guidance systems on its rockets before firing them into Gaza, would that make everything equal?

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 10, 2009 12:57 PM (MKFU7)

17 The WSJ used to put commie Alexander Cockburn and douche Al Hunt regularly on their editorial pages. Now they have "What's the Matter with " T. Frank as the token leftist.

Posted by: Ralph L at January 10, 2009 12:58 PM (xtp2U)

18 Many killed in the last week were young police recruits with no military roles. Civilian employees in the Hamas-led government deserve the protections of international law like all others. Hamas's ideology -- which employees may or may not share -- is abhorrent, but civilized nations do not kill people merely for what they think.

Strawman much? The uninformed reader might be tempted to believe that Hamas cops are like the guys walking the beat in some US city. Not quite. These cops aren't law enforcement, but rather the muscle side of Hamas. They exist to eliminate internal threats from fellow Gazans, and in eliminating internal threats, they are an important part of Hamas's ability to attack Israel.

Israel acknowledged they targeted the Hamas cops. It was not a bug, it was a feature. They were not attacked for thought crimes, but rather because they are a vital part of the Hamas war machine, crude as it may be. Saying the cops have no military role requires accepting a very limited and literal defintion of "military roles," a definition that surely doesn't apply to Hamas.

Posted by: bunny boy at January 10, 2009 12:59 PM (YsSn7)

19 Sorry Lee,

When the WSJ presents this stuff without taking exception they are lending their credibility to it. Claiming they silently disagree and hope the rest of us will register their outrage for them is a cop out so flaccid viagra couldn't fix it. Journalism is an enterprise so corrupt the Borgias would be disgusted by it.

Posted by: The Obvious at January 10, 2009 01:01 PM (1g+FW)

20 Remember, allowing the asshats to oped even in the WSJ allows the rest of us to spot the idiot much easier than if he remained silent. That is the beauty of free speech and a free press. You can spot the bias, lies and propaganda much more clearly with both.

Posted by: Jack is Back! at January 10, 2009 01:05 PM (1wp3y)

This was the best they could come up with? Somebody gets the bright idea to present the Hamas side of things, but the best op ed they got was from Professor Laughingstock who had to make up his own facts and his own law?

Do you think there actually are any good arguments?

Somebody let me know when they find one.

Posted by: MamaAJ at January 10, 2009 01:11 PM (X6Zdh)

22 "Kill them. Kill them all." -- Ace, 9/12/01

Still seems pretty much appropriate.

Posted by: Stumbo at January 10, 2009 01:14 PM (dPaNC)

23 Strangely, Saddam and Bush I never signed a cease fire.

They may not have signed it personally, but Saddam didn't have a choice as to whether or not to accept it. (Truman didn't sign the Surrender document at the end of WW2, either. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.)

However, it was a conditional cease fire, and Saddam violated the conditions within weeks of its enactment. That broke the cease-fire, and reinstigated the State of War, which is why I never complained about the missile attacks by Clinton (being the CinC of a signatory to the original cease-fire). I complained that he wasn't doing more.

Perhaps not coincidentally, that is also the situation that exposed the UN for the toothless cripple that it is - with the repeated acts of war, ongoing violations of UNSC Resolutions and outright defiance of the "world community", the best the UNSC could do was have more meetings and write more angry letters.

Posted by: Drumwaster at January 10, 2009 01:15 PM (Ymor3)

24 "he's living in a different universe" Same goes for new WSJ columnist Thomas Frank. Everything he knows is wrong.

Posted by: gp at January 10, 2009 01:17 PM (X3X3b)

25 Jack is Back,

A free press would have noticed CNN's hoax video, Jack. Don't confuse what we have with a free press. And don't pretend that peddling hate like this, without comment one from the editors, makes us safer from it. It's just journalism...the way it has been practiced in Stalin's Russia and Mao's China and Castr's Cuba and Saddam's Irag and Hamas's Gaza. If the editors at the WSJ don't have the courage to confront it at least they can own up to capitulating to it.

Posted by: The Obvious at January 10, 2009 01:20 PM (1g+FW)

26
Israel closed it's borders to Gaza because of the rocket/mortar attacks.

It's so simple:
*stop the rocket/mortar attacks.
*return Gilad Shallit
*stop the smuggling of arms into Gaza
*stop the tunneling under the border in an attempt to attack Israel and kidnap Israelis.

Posted by: A Plover In Every Pot! at January 10, 2009 01:22 PM (R9nd6)

27 *return Gilad Shallit's corpse

FIFY.

Posted by: Stumbo at January 10, 2009 01:25 PM (dPaNC)

28 when in doubt ... take 'em out, if they won't give up ... light 'em up.

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 01:25 PM (I+rJ6)

Bisharat is ignorant or lying or both

Both.

Posted by: Mr. Pissed at January 10, 2009 01:26 PM (KZKfb)

30
Bisharat claims that Israel cannot currently be acting in self-defense because it did not suffered an "armed attack" immediately preceding its attack on Hamas.

Hey there, Georgie Girl, it takes a minute or two for one to roll up one's sleeves before one begins kicking ass.

Give me your home address. I've got some fireworks left over from the fourth. Sounds like you wouldn't mind at all If I fire them off at your house. They're not even close to being rockets. You shouldn't have any problem with that at all!

Now that the ass kicking has begun, and you want said ass kicking to stop, I suggest you go to the area of said ass kicking and step in front of said ass kicker and put a stop to it. We could use another Rachel Corrie.

Posted by: Dang at January 10, 2009 01:26 PM (Y5LIx)

31 Mmmmm. Pancakes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2009 01:30 PM (MKNSy)

32 That jackass (I'd call him a "clown" except that there's nothing comical about his stance) is one of a handful of reasons I'm occasionally embarrassed about where I went to law school and routinely dump the alumni begging letters into the trash unopened. If I have the time, maybe I'll get my drink on and compose a letter to the dean, with a copy to Prof. Pally, explaining that an institution that gives tenure to creeps like this doesn't deserve my contributions.

Posted by: Alex at January 10, 2009 01:38 PM (MDW0+)

33
He's one of these "we still have the keys to our father's house" guys. Well, I have the keys to my old apt.

Posted by: A Plover In Every Pot! at January 10, 2009 01:40 PM (R9nd6)

34 jonah

Posted by: mike at January 10, 2009 01:43 PM (GNCy6)

35 It would be funny to see the mental gyrations these leftist asswipes go through if it wasn't so serious.

Posted by: the real joe at January 10, 2009 01:53 PM (IaUzC)

36 When this Professor hears that a woman was raped, his first thought "What was she wearing?"

Posted by: eman at January 10, 2009 01:55 PM (lukzX)

37 Do it now, Alex (drunk or not). The probability that they'll change their position is about 0.000001, but WTF.

(P.S.: don't EVER contribute to universities or colleges. Most of them have endowments 1000 times larger than you'll ever earn in your lifetime, so fuck 'em.)

Posted by: Stumbo at January 10, 2009 01:56 PM (dPaNC)

38 Well snarked, Gabe! Someone had to shove this Limp Dicks head up his own rectum, and you did your usual outstanding job. Thanks.

BTW: I hope you didn't get soiled....and be sure to wash up. it's the cold and flu season, and - well, ya know - all of 'em carry germs.

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at January 10, 2009 01:57 PM (58OxE)

"Mr. Bisharat is a professor at Hastings College of the Law in San Francisco."

Just what one would expect from the land of fruits, nuts, dweebs, dorks, nerds, fruit flies, rump rangers, cock suckers, girly boys, and an occasional girl who likes the Oscar Meyer wiener from a true conservative.

Oh Carol Doda where are you?

Posted by: Fish at January 10, 2009 01:58 PM (CG+cG)

This is for all the white trash redneck honkeys who blindly support israel, but have no idea of what its like to be on the other side. Here are a few facts for you :

1 - Hamas is launching rockets into Israel because Israel has a seige on the whole Gaza strip where they do not let anything or anyone through. Try living under those conditions.

2 - So far, 13 Israeli's have been killed, and 827 Palestinians, the majority of them civilians, and further women and children.

3 - Hamas is not allowed to have weapons, but yet Israel is supplied the latest and greatest weapons, by the big bigot US gov't, and you say that is fair ?

The list could go on and on. So for those of you cousin loving trailer trash rodeo jocks who want to "LIGHT EM UP YA'LL". Think a little bit before you open you stupid mouth. Your empire is nearing its end anyways, and if you weren't such p_u_ssies fighting everyone from the skies you would be the ones getting your arses light up.

Posted by: BillyBobRedNeck at January 10, 2009 02:04 PM (Eb9ul)

41 Using his reasoning, if Israel dropped a few nukes on Gaza, that would be a freebie.

Posted by: bill-tb at January 10, 2009 02:05 PM (7evkT)

42 The WSJ used to put commie Alexander Cockburn and douche Al Hunt regularly on their editorial pages. Now they have "What's the Matter with " T. Frank as the token leftist.

They're really on a downward spiral, aren't they. Alexander Lefty used to be so fucking delusional that it was entertaining in its own way because you really couldn't take what he said seriously. Al Cunt was a pathetic disgrace because his columns were just verbal evidence of which donk cock he was craving to suck at the time. Twatboy Frank is just a boring dweeb who doesn't even write interestingly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2009 02:07 PM (ZW5eD)

43 Thanks BillyBobRedNeck! I wondered when one of my minions would be heard from.

Posted by: Hitler in Hell at January 10, 2009 02:09 PM (1g+FW)

44 Your empire

Heh

Posted by: toby928 at January 10, 2009 02:09 PM (PD1tk)

45 Oh, BillyBobRedNeck, thank you for your asshattery. Your loving friend for life. Praise Allah!

Posted by: Yasa Arafat at January 10, 2009 02:13 PM (CG+cG)

46 if you weren't such p_u_ssies fighting everyone from the skies you would be the ones getting your arses light up.

Sorry, but that was when Clinton was CIC. Guess the news doesn't travel quickly to Cocksuckingistan.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2009 02:17 PM (ZW5eD)

47 From reporters to �Middle East expert talking heads,� the media is not portraying this situation accurately, a fact that has not gone unnoticed by terrorist supporters, especially in the West. We are seeing a growing solidarity among Muslims of all sects to rally behind what is being described as the �slaughter� of Palestinians by the Israelis. Featured prominently within these communications are reports by Western media sources such as CNN, MSNBC and the major television networks that feature video of alleged Gaza victims. Such footage is being used to inflame the sentiments of the readers of the Arabic websites, followed by instructions to readers of all Islamic sects to avenge the deaths of Muslims in Gaza.

Despite the media reports that Iran, for example, has no involvement in the Israel-Palestinian situation, there is indeed an Iranian component in this battle. Muslim terrorists from Iran are beginning to come to the aid of HAMAS in growing numbers, fueled in no small way, by recent statements from Iranian religious leaders. To dismiss Iranian complicity in this matter is disingenuous at the very least. The war is being characterized as a war against all Muslims, and all Muslims are being encouraged to defend their religion.
BillyBobRedNeck=asshat.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 10, 2009 02:25 PM (/i4dU)

Not only was it the best, it was ALL they could come up with, since there IS no factually correct, rational way to take the anti-Israel side in this war.

Posted by: Brigette at January 10, 2009 02:25 PM (j1JTy)

49 Supporters of the Palestinian cause are being encouraged to describe the actions by Israeli IDF soldiers as �atrocities,� and to describe Israel�s actions using such terms as �ethnic cleansing� and �genocide.� The instructions being given to Western followers on these web sites are very explicit, there is a previously unseen level of orchestration, even sophistication behind these instructions.

Postings by participants of these terror sites are encouraging public demonstrations in every U.S. city and are even suggesting what words should be used to �insure sympathy� for their cause.

Lastly, much is being said about the upcoming Obama administration within these forums. There is a growing optimism that the U.S. policies toward Israel will change dramatically, favoring the Palestinians over Israel. �Allah willing, Israel will cease to exist,� wrote one poster in reference to the Obama administration.
There is a war for the minds and hearts of Americans in the media as well as the battlefields in the Middle East. If one is lost, both will be lost.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 10, 2009 02:33 PM (/i4dU)

50 "Hamas is launching rockets into Israel because Israel has a seige on the whole Gaza strip where they do not let anything or anyone through. Try living under those conditions."

Are you saying that Arabs are too dumb to grow their own vegetables / cows / etc.?

Posted by: Stumbo at January 10, 2009 02:37 PM (dPaNC)

Bisharat lives way too close to me.

Suppose he was on the opposing side of some litigation. Suppose further that he were to make motions, examine/cross-eamine witnesses in a manner similar to that described in the thread subject post. Could I simply have him disbarred?

I have an empty space on my office wall. Successfully hunting Cape Buffalo with a sledge hammer and mounting the trophy would display a clear message. But the licence to practice of opposing counsel would better match the AK-47 chair that I desire. (remove all spaces: www. strategypage.com / military_photos / military_photos_2006112605324.aspx).

Posted by: Arbalest at January 10, 2009 02:37 PM (pmAMk)

Re: the Redneck

1 - Hamas is launching rockets into Israel because Israel has a seige on the whole Gaza strip where they do not let anything or anyone through. Try living under those conditions.

Regardless of whether Israel has imposed a blockade on Gaza, firing rockets at civilian population centers is a war crime. Further, the embargo was emplaced as a result of Hamas violating agreements regarding the importation of weapons.

2 - So far, 13 Israeli's have been killed, and 827 Palestinians, the majority of them civilians, and further women and children.

Your argument is one of disproportion. One, disproportion isn't defined in international law, but it can be easily argued that Israel has shown great restraint, especially since they have NOT responded by firing thousands of rockets against populations centers. Finally, large numbers of civilian casualties are directly caused by Hamas waging war from civilian sites, and using the civilian population as human shields, both in contravention of international law.

3 - Hamas is not allowed to have weapons, but yet Israel is supplied the latest and greatest weapons, by the big bigot US gov't, and you say that is fair ?

International law says nothing to fairness in war. It's purpose is to mitigate the suffering of innocents. One can easily argue that the advanced weaponry is instead reducing greatly the casualties. If Israel had to target Hamas using unguided weapons, more bombs would be needed to achieve valid military objectives, with concurrently greater civilian losses. This would not be a war crime (on Israel's part, that is) but it is not in Israels best interest.

Posted by: XBradTC at January 10, 2009 02:41 PM (YxTXL)

"Since its acquisition by News Corp., the Wall Street Journal opinion pages have been entertaining a wider set of views from the Left."

and

"This was the best they could come up with?"

Seems like a method to the madness. Much like the "conservatives" MSNBC chooses to air.

Posted by: Karl at January 10, 2009 02:50 PM (mAomI)

from muqata ... two senior hamas guys killed today ... one because ...

9:14 PM IDF reporting that the senior rocket commander was killed because junior Hamas terrorists were too afraid to go outside to launch the misiles

hahahahahaha afraid to come out and play are we?

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 02:54 PM (I+rJ6)

55 What's with freaking News Corp. these days, anyway?

They trash E.D. Hill over at Fox News because she dared to utter the phrase "terrorist bump" when wondering what was up with the way Bambi and Michelle always knocked their fists together.

Now you're starting to see some of the same ugly talking heads you can spot regularly over at MS-Luna-C show up at Fox...

And even the Wall Street Journal editorial page is becoming a podium for anti-Semitic claptrap??

I guess Murdoch just goes where the money leads, and he figures Leftism is the wave of the future.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2009 02:55 PM (iafWn)

56 billybobredneck ... you are giving rednecks a bad name ... sthu

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 02:56 PM (I+rJ6)

57 1 - Hamas is launching rockets into Israel because Israel has a seige on the whole Gaza strip where they do not let anything or anyone through. Try living under those conditions.

I see you ignore the wall along the Egyptian border and their closing of the border. How convenient.

And Drumwaster, thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: CUS at January 10, 2009 03:04 PM (zH0BK)

58 When Arab nations like Morocco, Lebanon, Syria and Kuwait turn out the Palestinians, the world is silent at an obvious act of self-defense against bloody psychotics.

When Israel defends itself against Palestinian attacks, the world whines "Can't those damned Jews die more quietly..."

As far as I'm concerned, the world is no different from that SS officer at Auschwitz who complained in his diary that the noise of dying Jews was interfering with his enjoyment of his Wagner albums... and their opinion deserves about as much consideration.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 10, 2009 03:29 PM (DBS+D)

59 "No man is condemned save from his own mouth"

Let him have his say, the sheer vapidity of his argument weakens the whole hug-Hamas-and-make-them-smile position.

Posted by: mrkwong at January 10, 2009 03:40 PM (G8Eo0)

60 3 story "plastics" factory in hamasistan goes up in huge explosion .... ooopsie

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 03:57 PM (I+rJ6)

61 3 story plastic explosive factory

FTFY

Posted by: MarkD at January 10, 2009 04:18 PM (qZFLO)

62 <em>"If you have the IQ of a turnip ... YOU MIGHT BE A REDNECK!"</em>

But, a "redneck" who says <em>ARSE</em>? Methinks shit for brains is a Brit, coming here because the Daily Mail dishrag has nothing interesting today.

Heu moron! Shut the FUCK up! You Brits have forfeited your right to comment on anything sane people talk about. Let us know how that Sharia Law thing works out for you, 'kay? Or not - we don't give a flying fuck what you do with your "Empire". LOL!

Posted by: Bruce at January 10, 2009 04:35 PM (rdFaW)

63 "If you have the IQ of a turnip ... YOU MIGHT BE A REDNECK!"

But, a "redneck" who says ARSE? Methinks shit for brains is a Brit, coming here because the Daily Mail dishrag has nothing interesting today.

Hey moron! Shut the FUCK up! You Brits have forfeited your right to comment on anything sane people talk about. Let us know how that Sharia Law thing works out for you, 'kay? Or not - we don't give a flying fuck what you do with your "Empire". LOL!

Posted by: Bruce at January 10, 2009 04:36 PM (rdFaW)

64 Good for the WSJ. Israel broke the ceasefire Nov 4. This had been in the planning for months. Naked attempt to intimidate Obama and the United States. Lying about killing women and children in that school.

Posted by: William R at January 10, 2009 04:54 PM (kKX8i)

65 William R, thank you for taking your valuable time away from reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to inform us of the efforts of those hook-nosed bastards to try and knock Obammy off his unicorn. I'm sure a high position awaits you in the State Dept where your Jew-hating opinion is SOP.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2009 05:02 PM (ZW5eD)

66 This might be the staw that broke the media blackout. Israel has refused to let in Western journalist to cover this slaughter.

It's way past time for the United States to take the advice of Ronald Reagan and get out of the Middle East and take a position of neutrality. Act has honest brokers for peace. If the Israelis won't stop building settlements in the occupied lands we should cut off all aid. Including military.

http://tinyurl.com/93x6p5

Posted by: William R at January 10, 2009 05:18 PM (kKX8i)

67 Naked attempt to intimidate Obama and the United States.

You mean, naked attempt to get rid of the psychotic terrorists that both you and Obambi have been letting fire thousands of missiles at schools, homes, and other civilian targets in Israel because they, like you and Obambi, hate the Jews.

Obambi and his leftist church were already cheering for Hamas way back in 2007. The Israelis looked at it, realized that Obambi was going to turn loose his Hizbollah, Hamas, and Iranian friends to pick up where Hitler left off, and decided they'd rather go down fighting than to wait for B. Hussein Eichmann to come get them.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 10, 2009 05:26 PM (FGCYs)

68 william R your nazi roots are showing ... go read a history book or something

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 05:26 PM (I+rJ6)

69 Ah, William's back from Stormfront.

Posted by: toby928 at January 10, 2009 05:30 PM (PD1tk)

70 If we had been occupying Candada for 40 years they'd be firing rockets at us.

http://tinyurl.com/96skrm

Posted by: William R at January 10, 2009 05:31 PM (kKX8i)

71 If we had been occupying Candada for 40 years they'd be firing rockets at us.

So?

Posted by: toby928 at January 10, 2009 05:35 PM (PD1tk)

72 Thank you, William R. Your call is very important to us.

Please stand by until an operator is available...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2009 05:36 PM (iafWn)

73 "Obambi and his leftist church were already cheering for Hamas way back in 2007."

Probably way back in 1987.

Posted by: Stumbo at January 10, 2009 05:39 PM (dPaNC)

74 If we had been occupying Candada for 40 years they'd be firing rockets at us.

If Canada had tried repeatedly to invade and conquer the United States and had as its governmental mandate the genocide of all Americans, there'd be a darn good reason for us to occupy them.

You and your fellow Obama supporters don't seem to have a problem with genocide of Jews; furthermore, you think acting in defense against it is a bad thing. Why is that? Why does Obama support genocide of Jews?

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 10, 2009 05:43 PM (FGCYs)

75 If we had occupied Canada, they'd be firing rockets too

http://tinyurl.com/8hrqt5

Posted by: William R at January 10, 2009 05:47 PM (kKX8i)

76 If we had occupied Canada, they'd be firing rockets too

If, if, if...... Rather than constructing your idiotic strawmen which have no relation to reality (which describes your worldview pretty accurately) why don't you address something that your exalted palis have some control over. Like why are the stupid refugee camps still in existence when they have an elected government that could do something positive for those wretches instead of purchasing rockets to fire randomly into Israel? It doesn't seem to bother you that they do that; why is that?

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2009 05:54 PM (ZW5eD)

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Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 05:56 PM (I+rJ6)

78 When a foreign power occupies your land its very hard for elected officials to do anything. Yes Israel withdrew its troops from Gaza in 2005, but they still control economic life which means they still occupy Gaza. Every President in recent memory has asked the Israeli government to stop building settlements in the West Bank, and all they do is stick their finger in our eye. In the past 40 years they've moved 300 thouand Jews into the West Bank insuring they'll never be a peace process. It's way past time for the USA to cut off aid to Israel.

Posted by: William R at January 10, 2009 06:10 PM (kKX8i)

79 It's way past time for the USA to cut off aid to Israel.

I disagree

Posted by: toby928 at January 10, 2009 06:14 PM (PD1tk)

80 Yes Israel withdrew its troops from Gaza in 2005, but they still control economic life which means they still occupy Gaza.

No it doesn't; either they occupy Gaza or they don't. Using words as if they mean something other than their actual definition makes it impossible to have an honest discussion. Your beloved palis have consistently received more aid per capita than any other group in history yet they continue to live in squalor. You're seemingly unable to address why that happens, instead looking to blame it on Israel. Your agenda is transparent.

Every President in recent memory has asked the Israeli government to stop building settlements in the West Bank, and all they do is stick their finger in our eye.

Quit using the first person plural; Israel has never done anything negative to this gentile.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2009 06:19 PM (ZW5eD)

81 Gimmie a break. If you control the electricity and water, the most basic of services, you occupy it.

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82 Electricity a basic service? Again maybe if the palis used some of that copious aid money they'd be able to generate some on their own. Because that's what nations do. But they don't; instead they buy rockets to fire at Israel. And that doesn't bother you. How strange...

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2009 06:40 PM (ZW5eD)

Gimmie a break. If you control the electricity and water, the most basic of services, you occupy it.

Electricity in unnecessary for survival and if you get thirsty enough, dig a frickin' well. These Pali's are nothing but a bunch of candy-asses who know how to load a weapon and pull the trigger and that's about it. They're hoping that someone is going to come riding in at the last minute to save them (again) but it ain't happening this time.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2009 07:03 PM (hKtiw)

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Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 07:09 PM (I+rJ6)

85 Some issues don't have two sides and this is one of them. If you try to get a spokesman for the terrorist's side then you will inevitably end up with a contradiction such as the contention that"war crimes" have been committed when war has not been waged. To take the Palestinian side it is necessary to engage in such illucidities (I think I just made that word up).

This is really no different than getting the rapists side of the story as to why the victim deserved what she got.

Posted by: Ben Franklin at January 10, 2009 07:25 PM (r11nM)

I chuckled. The local AM station news break mentioned something about how Israel asked President Bush to sell them bunker busters a few years ago and Bush said no. *whispering* But we'll show you how to build one.

Hee, hee. Overlay and the underplay. I'm gonna miss President Bush.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2009 07:25 PM (hKtiw)

87 They tried economic incentives, and that didn't work. Plan B is in effect.

Posted by: Tattoo de Plane at January 10, 2009 07:31 PM (EJmQG)

88 William, you keep babbling on about "occupied land." Yes, Israel occupied the West Bank... after it was used as a staging area for a would-be war of annihilation against Israel back in 1967 I'm sure you would have cheered on. So who's fault is it the whiney girly-boy Arabs once again (as always) had their asses handed to them?

Who's fault is it, exactly, that no Arab government in all those decades since the founding of Israel has given the Palestinians citizenship in real Arab countries, like Egypt, Lebanon, or Jordan? Who's fault is it even the Jordanians felt compelled to kick them out, because they have been troublemakers in every single place they ever went to? (Ask the Lebanese about that)

Who's fault is it the Israelis were compelled to build all those walls to seal of Gaza, after a wave of Palestinian suicide bombings in Israel?

Who's fault is it the Arabs can't grant the Israelis a tiny sliver of land in the huge area of the world known as the Middle East - a sliver that, after all, they have an ancient historical claim to?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2009 07:32 PM (iafWn)

89 Israel started the 67 war.

Posted by: William R at January 10, 2009 07:38 PM (kKX8i)

The West Bank and Gaza (controlled by Jordan and Egypt from 1948 to 1967) came under Israeli control during the Six Day War of 1967 that started when Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran and Arab armies amassed on Israel�s borders to invade and liquidate the state. It is important to note that during their 19-year rule, neither Jordan nor Egypt had made any effort to establish a Palestinian state on those lands. Just before the Arab nations launched their war of aggression against the State of Israel in 1967, Syrian Defense Minister (later President) Hafez Assad stated, "Our forces are now entirely ready . . . to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland . . . the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation." On the brink of the 1967 war, Egyptian President Gamal Nassar declared, "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel."

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 07:46 PM (I+rJ6)

91 The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) was founded in 1964�three years before Israel controlled the West Bank and Gaza. The PLO�s declared purpose was to eliminate the State of Israel by means of armed struggle. To this day, the Web site of Yasir Arafat�s Palestinian Authority (PA) claims that the entirety of Israel is "occupied" territory.* It is impossible to square this with the PLO and PA assertions to Western audiences that the root of the conflict is Israel�s occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 07:46 PM (I+rJ6)

92 Israel has, in fact, returned most of the land that it captured during the 1967 war and right after that war offered to return all of it in exchange for peace and normal relations; the offer was rejected. As a result of the 1978 Camp David accords�in which Egypt recognized the right of Israel to exist and normal relations were established between the two countries�Israel returned the Sinai desert, a territory three times the size of Israel and 91 percent of the territory Israel took control of in the 1967 war.

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 07:48 PM (I+rJ6)

Israel started the 67 war.

Did somebody fart?

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2009 07:51 PM (hKtiw)

94 In 2000, as part of negotiations for a comprehensive and durable peace, Israel offered to turn over all but the smallest portion of the remaining territories to Yasir Arafat. But Israel was rebuffed when Arafat walked out of Camp David and launched the current intifada

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 07:52 PM (I+rJ6)

95 89 Israel started the 67 war.
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http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570433/six-day_war.html

Quote:

In 1956 Israel overran Egypt in the Suez-Sinai War. Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser vowed to avenge Arab losses and press the cause of Palestinian nationalism. To this end, he organized an alliance of Arab states surrounding Israel and mobilized for war. Israel preempted the invasion with its own attack on June 5, 1967. In the following days, Israel drove Arab armies from the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza Strip, West Bank, and Golan Heights, all of which it then occupied. Israel also reunited Jerusalem, the eastern half of which Jordan had controlled since the 1948-1949 war. The Six-Day War was viewed as an enormous victory for Israel, but the territories it gained did not stop future fighting. The peace process throughout the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s has in large part been an attempt to resolve the land disputes created by Israel�s military success.

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Sorry, but you lose. Thank you for playing.

See, the Six Days War was a war of preemption waged by Israel in order to prevent obvious catastrophe... not unlike the one Bush fought against Saddam.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2009 08:02 PM (iafWn)

This is just a long, violent continuation of the war between Christians and Muslims. I'm going to keep beating the drum because I know I'm right.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2009 08:23 PM (hKtiw)

97 out of your depth here william ... best move on ...

Posted by: Wolverine at January 10, 2009 08:26 PM (I+rJ6)

98 Rockets == Beanie Baby launchers

Once you understand this, it all becomes clear.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 10, 2009 08:34 PM (Z0HFQ)

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Posted by: The Band at January 10, 2009 08:59 PM (QtRBc)

100 If I recall correctly, Jordan got into the 1967 war late and despite Israel's warning them to stay out. Nasser was lying to the King about Egypt's advances in the Sinai and he foolishly felt compelled to get involved.

Posted by: toby928 at January 10, 2009 09:07 PM (PD1tk)

101

In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful,

Deliberate attacks on civilians that lack strict military necessity are war crimes

Is it necessary to defend Israelis against rocket attacks even when they come from civilian areas? Who would not defend themselves against such a trap?

I have Muslim friends that make a much more compelling argument than this guy. The WSJ pulled a canvas back. (Sura 2:29)

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at January 10, 2009 10:43 PM (LY5pZ)

102 101: Why do you begrudge the Jews their historical homeland so badly, guy? Isn't the Middle East large enough to make room for one small state only a few miles across at one point??

Why don't you urge your fellow Muslims to give the Palestinians citizenship, or to accept the West Bank as their own new homeland, and just give the Jews a break after 2 millenia of persecution?

If Allah is all that merciful... how about some mercy for the Israelis?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2009 10:57 PM (iafWn)

103 The Palestinians have been offered land and money all over the world, few took it over fear of reprisal. After King Hussein of Jordan offered to take them in 1963, they repaid his generosity by trying to kill him. And after all the bad PR they have gotten since, no one wants them living down their block; including Egypt. Muslim countries have their hands full dealing with criminals, extremists, corruption at all levels. Palastinians are a grenade no one wants to catch. (Sura 2:29)

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at January 10, 2009 11:10 PM (LY5pZ)

104 So what's your ideal solution for the Palestinian problem, 7H?

You don't seem to feel much tenderness towards the Palestinians...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2009 11:26 PM (iafWn)

105

Let Egypt take them, and anyone else in the world who can be induced to do so. I fear no will at this point, there are too many and they are too troublesome. (Sura 2:29)

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at January 11, 2009 12:43 AM (9LkJw)

106 I can't believe that nobody's pointed out that this douche is a total Palistinian apologist, married to a Pali, and teaches at one of the most left-wing colleges at the most left-wing Universities on the West Coast. And to cap it off, he was a Public Defender in freekin' SAN FRANCISCO for chrissake.

If this guy isn't to the left of Karl Marx, I'll give up booze and cigars.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at January 11, 2009 01:09 AM (3JcyU)

107 #95

No!!!! Israel loses. They're the most hated country in the world In fact, the lone country that has always stood by it is starting to turn. Witness this op-ed in the WSJ. The dam has cracks all around it.

Posted by: William R at January 11, 2009 12:01 PM (lFavh)

108 "They're the most hated country in the world"

And why is that? Because they dare to defend themselves, or because they're a bunch of J-E-W-S?

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